Junior Complains That Colleges Don’t Teach “Civility”

Lack of self-awareness is a Trump hallmark.

The Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports:

Brought in for the UNT Kuehne Speaker Series, Donald Trump Jr. spent a significant portion of his 30-minute speech admonishing American universities, with a notable exception of those in Texas.

The oldest son of President Donald Trump said Tuesday that universities across the country, and specifically the University of California, Berkeley — and even his own alma mater, the University of Pennsylvania — are reigning in free speech and distorting traditional values while instituting policies of groupthink. He singled out the University of North Texas as increasingly becoming “the exception.”

“A lot of other universities don’t teach civility or intellectual openness anymore,” Trump said, speaking to 800 people seated at white tables on the home turf of the Dallas Cowboys at AT&T Stadium. “They’ve become captive to political hatreds. That’s how innocent questions become verbal assaults.” On campuses afraid to foster independent thought, he continued, universities have turned “traditional” values into “hate speech.”

Junior was paid $100,000 for the speech.

  • Boreal

    One attends college to learn to think critically, not be civil to dimwits.

    • kaydenpat

      What would any Trump know about civility?

      • Boreal

        or education.

    • Joe in PA

      Well…when I lived in Dallas, a friend was a professor of English at NTSU…he said the first thing he had to do was teach spelling. Srsly.

      • Boreal

        That is a result of 40 years of republican policies.

        • Joe in PA

          Just think how great their “public school” education will be after vouchers kick in.

    • agcons

      It’s my ability to think critically – a skill honed at university, bigly-time – which causes me to be uncivil to twits like this.

  • skyweaver

    If someone is looking to this family for ideas on civility they’ve got serious problems

  • Boreal
    • Uncle Mark

      We might even cheer for and exonerate these Menedez brothers for killing their father for “alleged abuse”….as this whole nation has been badly abused by their father.

    • kaydenpat

      That gene pool needs some diluting.

      • Boreal

        I think it needs bleach.

      • The_Wretched

        That’s why Donny only married models (and had them do the same)…who had work done.

  • Harveyrabbit

    Why the fuck would anyone pay this dullard $100K to make a “speech”.

    • Tawreos

      To pay the entry fee to talk to Daddy Trump without it being obvious

      • Joseph Miceli

        It’s pretty obvious…just not to the GOP base.

    • MBear

      …texas.

    • kaydenpat

      That entire family is chock full of grifters. How much more money do they need?

    • Don Blair

      Because Texas.

  • Bad Tom

    DONALD TRUMP, JR., YOUR DAD
    teaches incivility at the highest levels of American society!

    Look in the fucking mirror.

    • kaydenpat

      It’s like Melania yapping about bullies to students. Beyond hypocritical.

  • PickyPony
  • Tawreos

    I am sure that universities being bad has nothing to do with the GOP love of the uneducated easily duped voter.

  • Boreal
    • Todd20036

      Beavis and Butthead have better morals and are more intelligent.

      • kaydenpat

        Just about to say that.

    • DaveMiller135

      In photos like this, I always wonder if Eric is that creature from The X-files, that has to eat your liver, so it can stay supple enough to slide through keyholes.

      • Boreal

        Tooms.

  • matrem
  • Joseph Miceli

    “I want to take away your right to basic housing, the ability to access medical care and earn a living if I think my imaginary friend hates you.”
    “Fuck you!”
    “How dare you be so rude!”

  • james1200
  • PickyPony
  • Hank

    OT: Sen. Nelson discusses need for disaster supplemental

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm2cp-9Q-kk&feature=youtu.be

  • Boreal
    • Todd20036

      FAKE NEWS!!! He’s not a bear.

      • Boreal

        He’s not even bear shit.

    • Tawreos

      He needs to learn from his father on how to properly look like he is sitting on one of those all the time.

  • HZ81

    My God—if I may quote to late, great, fictional Helen Sinclair—Where’s my rifle?

  • worstcultever

    Fred Drumpf has a lot to answer for .. what a legacy of damaged, abused, toxic children & grandchildren, poisoning the world without end

    • bobbyjoe

      On the nicer side, he is saving his son a seat in Hell.

    • jmax

      Why blame just Trump’s father? After seeing pictures of his mother, I’m betting he was breast-fed pickle juice.

  • Daveed_WOW

    So he criticizes the places where people speak to truth to power. And Nazis. #TRUMPISHITLER

  • Uncle Mark

    Translation: “Most colleges spurn pro-fascist speakers and allow students to shout them down.” “With all the ideas that colleges entertain/embrace/teach, they won’t allow a curriculum that advocates racial superiority. Such hypocrisy.”

  • Ross

    Junior Complains That Colleges Don’t Teach “Civility”

    Junior, dear?

    Your very existence is an affront to civility.

    And decency.

    And morality.

    And honesty.

    And to my eyes.

  • worstcultever

    Off for some walking, fresh air, and trees

    • PickyPony

      Enjoy! XO

    • ChrisInKansas

      Today it’s going to be 77 here. May be the last really nice day for a while. I’m going to do the same. 🙂

    • kaydenpat

      Be doing that later as my two doggies drag me around. Enjoy.

  • Daveed_WOW

    Sounds like my parents. They sent me to college and then insulted me for being a stuck up indoctrinated liberal. Joke’s on them. I was born a stuck up liberal.

  • Yeah, you certainly never learned it you smarmy douche.

  • MBear

    Im sorry, but what are his qualifications….for anything? Born rich, white, and ignorant.

    Wait. Thats what murrikkka and especially Texas adores.

    Oh…was that uncivil?
    Fk off donnie jr

  • Lazycrockett
    • kaydenpat

      Lol at “move closer”!!

    • Joseph Miceli

      THANK YOU!!!!!

  • greenmanTN

    I’m just burned out from the daily bombardment of hypocrisy and stupidity and can’t muster anything more than “whatever” for stuff like this.

    In unrelated, what do you care news, it was cold last night and this morning I was able to lure in the 3 elusive kittens. One really wanted out and made a jump for the window. Smack!

    I confess. I laughed. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c8bc301613d7b4cc46bad95b30d525af3f4328fbd14631662cb6f8630b88dd3c.jpg

    • PickyPony

      hehe. one of my favorite FarSides!

    • bkmn

      Fud is a food brand name in Mexico.

      • clay

        So is Bimbo.

        • bkmn

          And you would know clay

          • clay

            Of course, I live in Philly, where our professional soccer team is sponsored by Bimbo Bakery.

            😉

    • Joseph Miceli

      Feral kitties? I hope you get the chance to hand tame them….a VERY difficult endeavor but worth it.

      • RoFaWh

        There are Youtube videos on the subject. One method that appears to work is to starve Kitty for a day, water only, then offer him some food on your fingertip. Apparently eating from one’s captor’s hand is effective as a first step in de-feralization of kittens.

        • greenmanTN

          Hmmm. I’ll try that, maybe. I’ve petted 2 of them already, but have to approach them when their back is turned (looking out the window). They like it and don’t run even when they see it’s the great white Satan doing it, but I can’t approach them from the front.

          • Joseph Miceli

            he’s right! Check out the youtube videos on it. If they get too old it won’t work. That you are having some success already is a good sign.

      • greenmanTN

        Mostly feral, yes. I’m hoping to keep them inside until they get acclimated, but you practically need an airlock to keep kittens from escaping. Wish me luck.

  • ChrisInKansas

    Texas. Of course.

  • Mike C

    “Junior was paid $100,000 for the speech.” That’s disgusting.

    • David Gervais

      Well, it was a disgusting speech. Fair is Fair after all. /s

  • kaydenpat

    Can the Trump kids please shut the hell up? Dealing with their odious father is more than enough.

  • Just to be clear, Junior did NOT speak on the UNT campus nor did he address any current UNT students. It was a private event with very expensive tickets and no press was allowed inside. The only connection to the university is that a right winger paid UNT a shit-ton of money to use the school’s name in exchange for some scholarship funds. The events are held in Dallas, not Denton. Students were up in arms but there was little they could do (and there were lots of alumni complaints).

    • Circ09

      Yeah, I was one of those Alumni complaints. UNT has been associating and putting the University’s “good” name with this right wing bullshit for a long time.

      • Those complaints were heard. Unfortunately the school is not very well funded (there’s virtually no endowment) so they can’t very well turn away large donations, even with strings attached like these.

        • Circ09

          Sure they can, but they won’t. Same way they would rather spend stupid amounts of money on their lame as shit football program that will never amount to real competitive influence rather than fund schools and sports that do make headway in the National space.

  • boobert

    Niether did you dad!

  • BJORN RAGNVALDR

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHALOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL…’CHOKE’ ‘COUGH’….I’m crying…….

  • TexasBoy

    Speaking of civility, Junior, have you read your daddy’s tweets lately?

  • Blake J Butler

    No, they teach tolerance and liberalism, i credit my political science and social work classes to push me further to the left.

    College opens your mind, non-religious batshit colleges, where you actually learn more than in highschool, in more depth and figure out what you want to do in life.

    It’s not that colleges have a liberal bias, its that reality has a liberal bias, and you can’t bullshit with your conservative viewpoints.

    • See my post above. He didn’t speak at UNT. A right wing donor paid UNT money to put it’s name on the speaking series. it’s not held on campus nor do students attend unless they can cough up big donations to the right wing group (NOT to the university). He talked about free speech but no press was allowed to attend. That’s the modern right for you in a nutshell. Don’t believe the spin on this event. It’s very different than how it actually went down. Oh and Jr was paid about 4 times what they paid Giuliani and other speakers.

  • Paula

    I don’t have to be civil to Nazis. I don’t have to be civil to anyone calling for me to be killed. I don’t have to be civil to people that think taking rights away from others in their right.
    So fuck you.
    I don’t want to be civil to these people, I want to see them gone.

    • GayOldLady

      Ditto!!!!

    • ChrisInKansas

      Civility only works in a culture that is civil to everyone.

      • DaveMiller135

        The American conservatives have made a lot of hay out of ignoring that one. The idea that politeness is something other people ought to do more.

        • Bj Lincoln

          I thought being PC was bad. Being PC to me means to not use language that would offend or discriminate against anyone. I think it was a great way for people to behave in public and kept us ‘civil’. They are the ones who said that was bad and opened the door to division and open hatred. Now they are bitching about the lack of civility?! I would not have paid Jr. if he was supposed to talk about something besides a 30 minute bitch session.

          • LaChatSayWha

            Yep. “PC” is just the golden rule. It’s civility and showing respect for others… in other words, good manners.

          • stanhope

            Sit down bitch in the dunce section where the beat cows are

          • DaveMiller135

            My recollection is that “political correctness” and being “politically correct” came up in the 70s as a joke, by progressives, about ourselves. An awareness of the knots we were tying ourselves into, trying to never give offense to anyone. The hardest thing in the world is to maintain a sense of humor, while striving to offend exactly no one.

            Not a pure example, but I remember an L&G strategy meeting, which went on long enough that we needed to order dinner. Some people had money, some had not, some were carnivores, some were not. And, of course, as a gay man, I was in training that my penis was what kept lesbians from participating in events, so I was deferring like a madman. And two penniless, vegetarian lesbians were about to back the other 4 of us into not having any meat on the pizza, when at last, a lesbian carnivore said, “Look, you guys aren’t buying the pizza, so how about we make sure it has lots of veggies on it, and you can pick the meat off of your slices.”

      • Joseph Miceli

        Can you imagine if the slaves in the 1800’s had used the tactics the people of India did on the British? It would have been a slaughter!
        You can only appeal to someone’s moral sense if they actually possess one.
        Now, about what does and does not work with Trump…Hint: No moral sense at all.

    • Joseph Miceli

      The proper response to Nazi rhetoric is to beat Nazi’s with sticks until they shut up.
      Sorry guys, I know “violence is not the answer” but I have a two word response to that that justifies it: “The Holocaust.”

      • Boreal
      • Rambie

        Nazi’s are the exception to the “violence is not the answer” rule.

      • The Milkman

        With respect to Nazis, violence is the ONLY answer. It’s the only thing they understand. And the United States and its allies spent lives and treasure underlining that fact. We carpet bombed German cities to get rid of the Nazi scourge. Sadly, it’s rearing its ugly head again(it never really went away). That reprehensible part of human nature was kept well and truly suppressed for the most part after the war. Trump’s election and the rhetoric surrounding it (why use a dog whistle when you can just use a microphone with the seal of the President in front of it?) made these horrible people think it was finally time to add their despicable views to the national dialogue. Well guess what? Some views aren’t worthy of equal time and respect, and never will be… no matter how much they whine and how hard they work to inject their toxicity into the public discourse.

        Stop trying to make “fetch” happen, Gretchen. It’s NOT going to happen.

      • stanhope

        Bitch please…that violence is not the answer is some antiquated bullshit…remember when those gay bashers, in new york I think, picked on a marine and his boyfriend and he leveled their asses? That is the response needed because you know those fuckers won’t get shit for punishment in court.

        • Joseph Miceli

          Don’t call me bitch, Bitch! /s

    • clay

      Doesn’t advocating for our death, or at least removal from society, constitute an initial “verbal assault”? What about his masculinist friends’ actual physical sexual assaults? Don’t they count? But WE’RE the ones who have to be taught to be more civil?

    • LaChatSayWha

      And we don’t have to be civil to lying liars who maliciously twist discourse into a Goebbels-like knot in service of their own grifty crimes.

      I also will not be civil to anyone younger than 80 y.o. who chooses to rock the Brylcreem in a Robert MacNamara/Gordon Gecko throwback style. It’s nasty as hell. And his Daddy makes him wear his hair that way. Take a seat, Junior.

    • stanhope

      These dicks use civility as a weapon..they don’t feel at all bound by civility and decorum but know that you will be and then bully you…hit me, I floor your ass.

  • Richard B

    Trump JR and the rest of his family should go away and disappear from public view…
    Is that civil enough?

  • The_Wretched

    Right wing ‘civility’ means not calling them out for the plain and egregious harms they commit.

    • Uncle Mark

      Damn, you are sooo uncivil and rude for saying that !! /s

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Who in the fuck would pay this twerp $100 K to talk about anything ???

    • The_Wretched

      It’s more pay-to-play.

    • David J

      Remember, it’s the University of North TEXAS ! They burn money there instead of oil sometimes, just to heat their jacuzzi’s

  • Henry Auvil

    This is the same clown who just days ago suggested that Representative Frederica Wilson would have more credibility if she didn’t dress like a stripper.

    • jerry

      The idiot first tweeted about her and called her Maxine Waters.

  • Rex

    I think there’s a muted Trump gene that leaves a giant dead space in the brain where the concept of irony is processed.

    • Lars Littlefield

      That is adjacent to compassion, empathy, and intelligence — which in the Trump DNA are vacant lots.

    • boatboy_srq

      You could have stopped at “giant dead space”.

  • bkmn

    Certainly the ones that you, your brother, sister and father attended didn’t.

  • David J

    $100,000.00 for 30 minutes of bullshit. Bullshit is getting too expensive for my budget. I’ll be listening more closely to that homeless guy down the street who rants on and on every day when the sun sets and he’s waiting for his next meal at the soup kitchen. I bet that poor mentally unstable homeless guy has more wisdom in his rants than all the members of the tRump tribe could ever come up with. UNT could have saved about $99,999.99 and heard a wiser speech.

  • MikeBx2

    If they have a class for that in prison, he should sign up for it when he gets there.

  • Ninja0980

    Have you looked at your dad’s twitter feed or your own for that matter?

  • Jeffg166

    The sequoia in his eye is breath taking.

    • boatboy_srq

      I’m petrified just observing it.

  • David J

    IRONY ALERT number 100,000

  • Charles Nelson

    Donald Trump went to college…point proven!

  • geoffalnutt

    There is no there there at all. Nothing.

    • RoFaWh

      It’s a nothing-nothing!

      Put that up in neon light.

  • RobynWatts

    Well, Donny Jr., if they did taught that, along with ethics and morality, you would have most certainly have failed it.

    • TampaDink

      Or he would be a much better human…and very few people would have ever heard of him.

  • stevenj
  • edrex

    civility is for the little people.

    • boatboy_srq

      Coffee is for closers.

  • safari

    The office of the presidency no longer teaches criminals to be civil.

  • easygoingmister

    I only thought about it for a brief moment, but I’m pretty sure it was the women of my childhood that taught me civility. One specific grandmother leaps to mind.

  • TampaDink

    Civility is usually taught at home…before kids are old enough to enter school.

    • boatboy_srq

      Clearly a lesson not given in the tRump household(s).

      • TampaDink

        The staff who raised the 3 oldest….and likely the youngest of his spawn is being raise by a team of non-related, underpaid undocumented immigrants as well.

    • RoFaWh

      You beat me to it.

  • Mike

    Their idea of civility is for their victims not to struggle as Republicans chloroform us. Screw that.

  • Adam Stevens

    Says the dude who majoried in hair gel?

  • Duh-David

    I have to be more civil? Why? Am I being uppity?

  • boatboy_srq

    Tenement Douche says what?

  • TampaDink

    30 minute speech=$100,000. As if most people in America earn $200,000 per hour.

  • BartmanLA

    This is rich! Junior thinks that colleges should teach civility, just tell us where your daddy and for that matter YOU learned that trait???? Leading by example is a concept obviously lost on this family. [smh]

  • 2patricius2

    I can’t stop laughing…..Just had to pick myself up from the floor, where I was rolling around…..

  • MikeBx2

    His next speech will be about the evils of killing animals for sport.

  • Kissmagrits

    Donny, honey…if you don’t already have some basic civility in place by the time you reach college, you’re already several years late, you patrician fuckhead!

  • Mark

    Civility. Seriously asshole? Civility went flying out the window when President Obama took the oath of office in 2009. All the hate, prejudice and nasty nazi shit came flying out of the woodwork, openly and without any filters. So, shut the fuck up jr.

  • Lizard

    Oh good, I can get back to work. The Trump University jokes write themselves.

  • FAEN
  • SFBruce

    “Intellectual openness?” Really? Whoever wrote this for Junior should use words that he would actually use and possibly understand. Trump supporters don’t care about intellectual openness, or intellectual anything, or little Donnie wouldn’t be in the White House.

  • KCMC
  • ETownCanuck
  • JWC

    I find it amazing that the Trumpeess make these wonderful speeches that seem to only highlight their own downfalls Critics couldn’t write this stuff better

    • RoFaWh

      It’s that filthy lack of self-awareness again.

  • Girlgoon

    So junior, you found your excuse for not knowing how to be civil, now sue your college boy !

  • andrew

    It is outrageous that tone deaf Trump Jr. was paid $100,000.00 for a 30 minute speech. That is about twice what the the median American household earned in salary and benefits last year. To think that 800 people didn’t roar with laughter when he spoke about the lack of “civility” in America is mind boggling.

    • coram nobis

      Talk isn’t cheap, it seems.

      • 2guysnamedjoe

        I’m sure Jr’s speech was just a red herring. So what did those 100 G’s really pay for?

        • coram nobis

          Access?

          • 2guysnamedjoe

            Would a state university be laying out $$ for access? So who’s the real customer?
            I thought access to Donny Golfballs had a seven figure price tag. Six figures apparently gets you Donny Brylcreem, who hopefully will whisper your message into the ear of Don the Father.

          • coram nobis

            Don Donald is more subject to the emoluments clauses, given his office as Blowhard in Chief. Clown Prince is not in (official) office, so it’s harder to stick on him. And he comes cheaper, as you noted.

  • coram nobis

    Irony Coast, next three exits.

    It could be that the Trumps are indeed self-aware — indeed, Donald Trump is all that Donald Trump seems to talk about — but he doesn’t have the manners of a camel. So it’s trans-dimensionally bizarre to hear his oldest son talk about civility.

  • Gene Perry

    Isn’t genetics amazing?

  • Nic Peterson

    Be nice to meeeeeeee!

  • RoFaWh

    Hey, Fuckhead Jr, civility is one of those things taught to children starting when they are quite small. In most households, that is; but clearly not in those where your father and you were brought up.

    Universities are institutions of higher education, not institutions for teaching corrective etiquette. For that, read Judith Martin’s many “Miss Manners” books.

    Oh, that’s right: you are a Trump and your reading ability isn’t up to reading Judith Martin.

  • William

    “In my day, staff didn’t speak unless spoken to.”

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • JAKvirginia

    Is that the College University of Northern Texas?

  • PhillyProfessor

    Well, Donnie Jr, for someone who never met a mirror you didn’t love, it’s amazing how little self-awareness you possess. Not a shred.

  • canoebum

    Civility. Like rushing to meet with foreign adversaries and spies to get “dirt” on your political opponents, and then lying about it, repeatedly. Such decorum. I’m impressed!

  • JAKvirginia

    Civility? Anti-bullying? The irony in this family is crushing.

  • JCF

    “President Trump leaves for Dallas…”

    Anyone else suddenly think of ~54 years ago?

  • Mickey Bitsko

    Jeez, who died and made him John Dewey?

  • Reasonoverhate

    How is it possible for a breathing human being to be this ignorant and lacking in self-awareness??? And secondly, what jackass in North TX thinks tRump’s son is worth $100k??? SMDH…..

  • Pete Wascher

    $100,000?! that ain’t free speech, it’s paid speech.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      That’s $125 a head. Did those 800 young scholars actually pay to hear Donny Brylcreem’s pearls of wisdom?

  • eyefidelity

    Most people learn civility at home, but then Junior isn’t most people. He probably didn’t learn much about civics in school, either. His old man certainly didn’t.

  • Robincho

    Uday’s colege didn’t teach speling niether…

  • JT

    Junior Complains That Colleges Don’t Teach “Civility”

    Holy fucking shit, you hypocritical sleezebag asshole!

    And besides, criminal traitor Nazis don’t deserve civility.

  • Talisman

    As the repuglicants like to say, that’s not up to the schools to teach – Civility should be taught and modeled by the parents.

    And given the parent, Junior has no room to speak.

  • 2guysnamedjoe

    $100,000 is the ‘quid’. No one’s paying to hear what Donny Brylcreem has to say, so what’s the real ‘quo’ here?

    • Joe in PA

      I’m waiting for all the RWNJs to complain about his speaking fees, like they did with Chelsea Clinton. Still waiting. 🙁

  • Bomer
  • Halou
    • Friday

      That’s just locker-room “civility.”

  • Tor

    I thought “civility” was supposed to be taught in kindergarten.

  • DesertSun59

    Universities that are religious in nature or conservative in study are not institutions of higher learning. They are training grounds for fascists, demagogues and anti-intellectuals.

  • Halou

    Will civility be a course to study at Trump University 2? And will I need to sell my kidney to pay for it?

  • -M-

    Traditional values are a variety of groupthink moron, pretty much by definition. Independent thought and open intellectual debate mean that they can be challenged. Calling such discussions and differences of opinion and points of view ‘hate’ is the insular political correctness that the right wing in the US has embraced so thoroughly for over forty years.

  • No More GOP.

    What would you know about civility, junior?

  • Nick in Pasadena

    Maybe he can work on his “civility” when he’s in the slammer.

    • Hank

      He will learn to be “Civil” to the dude, that “bends him over” in there!!!

  • infmom

    I wonder how much his daddy paid to let him graduate with a 0.0 gpa.

  • GanymedeRenard

    “They’ve become captive to political hatreds.”

    That’s rich coming from the son of the father of all hatreds.

  • Spray on abs

    Civility should be learned in the home you grow up in. You should not have be taught it in college. We know tRump didn’t learn it at home.

    • Gianni

      That was the first thing I thought. Colleges teach civility? You should have been taught that at home by, you know, Don, YOUR PARENTS! On second thought, Donnie Jr. likely has an excuse.

  • stanhope

    He is a buffoon..if not a trump would be homeless he is THAT stupid…and he’s ugly to boot. Ivana knew that trump would prove to be an ass so she held back the looks genes for Ivana.

  • caphillprof

    Lying is the greatest incivility.

  • fuzzybits
  • Ann Kah

    If your traditional values include hate speech, you might just want to rethink those values. The ones who hate today may become the hated ones tomorrow. Why, it’s even possible for silver-spoon rich kids to fall into disapproval and unpopularity.

  • Barry William Teske

    Oh look!
    Dad must have read Mein Kampf every night to lull the kids to sleep.
    Such good kids…

  • Marides48

    Donnie Jr. did you learn about civility at home? I’m sure your father taught you all he knows about civility in 2 seconds.

  • Charlie

    Your daddy sure didn’t learn anything about ‘civility’ when he attended an ivy league college. Who cares what this IDIOT thinks?

  • roadtripboy

    I wish Junior would stop using words he doesn’t know the meaning of…