Former Trump Spox Katrina Pierson Calls Slavery “Good History” In Wildly Off The Rails Fox Segment [VIDEO]

Former Trump campaign spokesperson and convicted shoplifter Katrina Pierson has (for the moment, at least) reclaimed her title as the nation’s most idiotic Republican after literally calling slavery “good history” during an off-the-rails segment on Fox News today.

The Daily Beast reports:

It all started with a debate over House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s push to remove Confederate monuments from the U.S. Capitol in the aftermath of the Charlottesville white-supremacist rally that turned deadly.

On the other side was Wendy Osefo, the left-leaning half of Fox & Friends’ most devastating segment the week before, who pushed back fairly gently against Pierson, saying the statues belonged in museums, not on state grounds.

But it was this comment from Pierson that caught Osefo’s attention: “It absolutely deserves a place, because bad history is still good history for this country.” “Slavery is good history?” Osefo asked in disbelief.

Now, while most reasonable persons would respond with an emphatic, “of course not,” Pierson went a different direction. “Considering where we are today! Where we are today! Absolutely!” she said. “Slavery is good history? Absolutely? Oh, wow,” Osefo shot back.

  • Gustav2

    Has she ever been correct on any history?

    • Todd Allis

      Well, she is certainly on the alt-right side of history!

  • Bluto
    • Judas Peckerwood

      She’d be fine with putting up the statue, as long as she got the proceeds from the sale of the kid.

    • Gustav2

      Katrina: “It depends on which one of my children was kidnapped.”

      • Todd20036

        And did the kidnapper keep the receipt

        • liondon#iamnotatraitor

          Was Chicken George there to keep him entertained?

      • Daveed_WOW

        That would be my answer. I have none of my own, but some children have it coming.

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      • clay

        Katrina: “It depends on if they were successful forcing my children to convert to Christianity. If so, it should be at a churchyard, I mean at the courthouse, because we’re a Christian nation.”

      • Andymac3

        Katrina: “I want a book deal on the kidnapping story,a TV deal on the investigation and aftermath, exclusive rights to the funeral, we’re doing a funeral, right?”

        • Gustav2

          And the TV station getting the rights is paying for the funeral, right?

    • Ore Carmi

      Katrina: “How much would they pay?”

  • Sam_Handwich
    • NZArtist

      There wasn’t an option for: He’s been elevating Nazis above the people opposing them.

    • another_steve

      “No opinion” means “I hate non-white people but am too embarrassed to admit that to a pollster.”

      That means 58 percent of those polled approve of what Trump said.

  • Y’know, this shit wouldn’t happen if media networks stopped inviting these blithering, gibbering ass-weasels and spokesgoblins to spout their nonsense on live TV.

    • Gustav2

      They expect people to see the fools as they are, but…

    • Adam King

      Absolutely right. The fucking TV vampires get a lot of the blame for elevating these treasonous shits.

    • Todd20036

      I really wouldn’t call Fox, “media”, though

    • Yes, but they want “balance” and no one with any sense is going to show up to defend Trump.

  • AtticusP
    • Todd20036

      But I like sucking….

      • BJORN RAGNVALDR

        He wasn’t talking to us dear, It would be useless if he were.

  • bkmn
  • Tulle Christensen

    Trump and his minions are going to put The Onion out of business

  • alguien

    donnie’s girls!

    K ellyanne
    K ayleigh
    K atrina

    • coram nobis

      K aos

    • kareemachan

      I’m beginning to see a pattern here…

  • coram nobis

    Fun fact, kids! Today is Monday! That’s lunes in Spanish, or lunedì in Italian. That’s as in “luna”, or moon, and so that’s why today seems to be Looney Day.

  • another_steve

    I am now going to transmit to Katrina Pierson the Evil Eye.

    This is a terrible thing to do, a terrible curse to send. Among my ancestors it was reserved for really really bad and wicked people.

    Readers who are squeamish may wish to look away.

    Here goes…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4c187c2e782fc6ebebe2abc8a918064e617de279e0d3a2195973bd29a349a9c6.jpg

  • Gustav2

    Arizona Republican Gov.To Skip Trump Rally In Favor Of ‘Working With Law Enforcement’

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/arizona-governor-skipping-trump-rally-in-phoenix

    • The Republican discommendation of Trump has begun…

      • Gustav2

        “Gov. Ducey’s focus has been working with law enforcement toward a safe event in downtown Phoenix for all those involved and in the area,” spokesman said. “That will continue to be his priority during the event and afterwards.”

    • SoCalGal20

      Excellent!

  • Major props to Reich for “howling manchild.”
    https://twitter.com/RBReich/status/899743172615471104

    • Gustav2

      As long as his cabinet members destroy regulations and he nominates conservative judges, Trump is safe. Republicans won’t care.

    • coram nobis

      Contained, QED.

      DONALD: (opens “codes” briefcase, takes out paper, picks up red phone). 48Z27M and 2-4T and T4-2. Got that?
      WATCH OFFICER: (writing down) Yes, sir. I’m on it.
      DONALD: (hangs up)
      WATCH OFFICER: (opens code book) Aha. “Air attack, Plan D for Donald.” (folds piece of paper, makes paper airplane, flies it across office) ZZzzzzoooom.
      Senior NCO: Plan D again, sir?
      WATCH OFFICER: Yes. (picks up blue phone) General McMaster? Yes, sir. Plan D. Mission complete.

    • HanyBaal

      “And now the end is near” that was the opening line of the song he chose for his Inaugural Ball, “My Way”.

  • JWC

    Katrina Pierson has won the Bat Shit Crazy Award

    • charemor

      And Kellyann is going to be pissed.

      • JWC

        hoped her Miller amd Gorka would be gone today

  • Lars Littlefield

    Bitch needs to die.

    • Silver Badger

      That’s a little harsh. All she really needs is a couple years experience as a slave.

      • Todd20036

        … and then die.

      • Isn’t she already, under Drumph? All these damned, winning minions sucking up to Drumph’s teat.

      • Nunya D. Bidness

        How about a couple of years experience as a dead slave?

  • coram nobis

    ” … because bad history is still good history for this country.”

    Orwell wept.

  • John Ruff

    What a fucking c u n t.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Clive Johnson

      Don’t protect them anymore. According to Trump supporters the president is enjoying surging popularity. What should he have to fear?

    • kareemachan

      So… he’s welshing on his employees. Again.

  • Blake J Butler

    Instead of paying attention to the Fox News dimbo, instead I ran a college outreach booth for Equality Texarkana and made center pieces for our La Fiesta De Los Muertos ball using label free wine bottles and candle dripped wax I sped up the process by melting it in the microwave. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b371e666c37204ad4e466da21342dcb2109428c6a9287e7830178e0021bf007e.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef03b25ea51c3c9249191e0ab8ab6682764a35490dec8c6bb5fcae5faf5500f5.jpg

    In other words I was too busy to watch the eclipse.

    • Tatonka

      That looks like a still life from Ladybird Bachman’s wine cellar.

      • Dazzer

        …or gay porn stash.

        • RoverSerton

          eww

    • Cuberly
    • Adam King

      Very nice. Reminds me of an Italian restaurant I used to frequent, but those were Chianti bottles.

    • Jeffrey

      Cool project. Ill be driving through texarkana Labor Day weekend. Flying in to Dallas to visit my family there and then driving on to Hot Springs, Arkansas to visit the rest of them.

      • Blake J Butler

        Do not hesitate to stop by for a little while and see what we’re up to down here with Equality Texarkana. I promise i’m normal, TuuxKabin knows i don’t bite.

  • IAMBOWLINGGREEN

    To Miss Five Finger Discount, ‘bad history is good history’ and stealing is alternative shopping.

    • agcons

      When she was more visible a while back, she was known around these here parts as Katrina “Fingers” Pierson.

  • andrew

    IMO. these debates over removing statues, monuments and carvings of bad guys from our nations past are distractions, at best. They do needlessly rip open old scabs and get people all emotional about things that don’t create any jobs, revitalize our crumbling infrastructure, improve our horrid urban and rural educational systems, don’t reduce our out of control gun violence, don’t put a dent in our drug epidemic, don’t increase taxes on the super rich. In short they do nothing to improve the lives of living Americans. We should be using our time, energy and political capital on things that benefit live Americans and not being concerned with which dead guys have been mistakenly honored. Leave the dead guy monuments to be honored by the pigeons.

    • zhera

      No.

      The statues and monuments are symbols of terror, murder, slavery. Get them down, get them away, and let the people heal. There can be no justice in a society that honors evil.

      • andrew

        Where does your purification of our past begin and end. Columbus was responsible for the deaths and sufferings of countless Native Americans, yet our nation has thousands of Columbus monuments, and an endless number of cities, parks and streets named for him. Andrew Jackson is responsible for the death and sufferings of tens of thousands of Native Americans, yet we have countless monuments, cities and streets named for him. Even the $20 dollar bill that I look at every day has his face on it. One of our big Navy Aircraft Carriers is named for Senator John Stennis, an ardent racist and segregationist. Some of our Founding Fathers and early presidents like Washington and Jefferson bought and sold human beings as slaves. We should definitely teach our children about the evils committed by many in our past and then move on and use our energies to make tomorrow better for them.

        • ultragreen

          There is a deep sickness in American society that has always celebrated White Supremacy, oppression, and violence against other groups of people. This is particularly true in the former states of the Confederacy. It is time that we stopped glorifying the militarists and slave owners who oppressed people, and create memorials to the people who were oppressed. We can create statues celebrating authors, artists, scientists, and people devoted to expanding human rights and crushing social injustice. These are the people who have created a great civilization.

        • zhera

          Teach the children about the evils committed, and then show them how society honors the men committing said evil? That’s what’s happening now, with these statues. Children all over the world are learning how society values skin color, creed, sexuality, and gender.
          If you want a better world, a better future, the answer is to give children the truth. Not a “Yes, slavery was really bad, but General Lee looked mighty fine up on that horse!”

          Personally, I don’t see why there must be cities, parks, streets, war ships, etc. named after historical persons. What’s that about, anyway? Why must there be historical people on money?
          I can see how changing the name of a city might be difficult but removing a statue, or changing the name of a park or a ship? NOT. A. PROBLEM.

    • Adam King

      I’m guessing you’re not black.

      • zhera

        Considering Katrina Pierson, maybe he is? I mean, black people can be stupid, too. What he appears NOt to be, is empathetic.

        • andrew

          Removing statues, monuments and carvings of dead bad guys from our historical past will not improve the diet, schooling, neighborhood, health care, job opportunities etc of a single black or child of any color in our nation today. What it might do is make it a bit harder to reach a consensus on how to improve the lives of these living children. Enjoy your emotional distractions, if you must, hopefully some can do politicians will get to work on improving the lives of the living .

          • zhera

            And apparently you’ve never heard of people doing more than one thing at a time?

            You are trolling. I’m sure you’ll deny it, but that’s what you’re doing. You’re saying “Here’s something worse, something we must give all our attention!” The only reason for doing that is that you don’t want attention on this very subject.

            My conclusion, simple and short, is that you’re a racist troll.

          • ultragreen

            Removing statues and meeting other needs of the nation are not mutually exclusive. Therefore, your argument is inherently illogical.

            I think you underestimate the importance of cultural artifacts and the messages that they transmit to the general population. These statues glorify the brutality of the Confederacy, they do not condemn it. They implicitly send the message of White Supremacy to non-white minorities and help to legitimate the violence of the alt-right. These statues should be replaced with memorials of people who died fighting slavery. It is time that we stopped glorifying these warmongers and oppressors with flattering statues.

    • Ross

      I am always fascinated by such a view.

      You are saying that if we focus on X, then it is not possible to get A B C D E F G H done.

      Funny, because I think focusing on X is fine, AND we can still try and accomplish A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W Y Z.

      In short, doing X does not automatically preclude doing anything else. Our goals and aspirations should never be contained.

      I am glad I am not married to you for if I said that we should clean the house in the morning, you would then be unable to later have lunch, go to a movie with me, join me in a lovely candle-light dinner, and then great sex.

    • The_Wretched

      These Confederate monuments are intend as territorial pissing by the southern (and elsewhere) racists. They need to go from governmental lands (courthouses, schools, public greens etc). Given the usual politics, that means getting them out when you can and that’s right now.

      I agree the rest of your priority items need work, need Dems making noise about them and the MSM letting them be talked about.

  • Lazycrockett
  • Ninja0980

    Can we send her back in time so she can experience slavery first hand?

  • zhera

    Where we are today? What does she mean by that, the slaves’ descendants are better off in the US? The society today justifies the past’s horrors of slavery?

    • Adam King

      You’re trying to find logic in that nonsense? You probably should let your brain off the hook.

      • another_steve

        Exactly. She’s not talking to those with brains or compassion; she’s talking to Trump’s base. Just as when Trump tweets or speaks in public.

        Not to the mindful. Not to the compassionate.

        To the deplorable.

        • Robincho

          Pity her bullet necklace can’t be re-animated and re-aimed…

          • another_steve

            Where is Stephen King when we need him.

    • Ernest Endevor

      I think she means that slaves were better off than today’s black Americans in such hell-holes as Chicago. Not the first time I’ve heard that opinion expressed.

  • Natty Enquirer

    Intellectual battles of the airbrushed bimbos. I get dizzy just thinking about it.

  • Sam_Handwich

    also from the new ABC/WaPo poll….

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHyLDfjW0AEOUQ4.jpg

  • ohbear1957
    • TKW

      Nose job/skin bleach much?

  • Karl Dubhe

    O/T Marriage, Edmonton style.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/bride-groom-bar-brawl-arrest-edmonton-1.4255750

    For the picture of the bride in handcuffs, the story is worth the read.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Ah yes, Alberta, Canada’s very own Texas.

      • Karl Dubhe

        We had women voting before Quebec. Edmonton is home to the Famous Five, who fought the crown for the right to be recognized in law as persons. We also have a socialist government, and given our history with elections they’re probably going to be there a while.

        Also, I don’t recall hearing about any nationalist marches here, or in Calgary.

        Our reputation as Texas North is not that accurate at all.

    • Ben in Oakland

      I used to be a wedding photographer. One very upper class wedding had the brides brother decking their father. The other great one was the brides entire family being hillbillies– missing teeth, big hair, and all– with pretension to class. Big fight broke out at the reception. My husband suggested I go back to where the fight was. I said “not on your life.” Police called and every thing– at a $7000 a day venue, just the venue.

      Fun.times.

      • Bj Lincoln

        I did weddings 20 years ago and there was a few odd and sometimes explosive episodes. I’ve seen families pour all kinds of money for places they didn’t fit in like your hillbilly’s. LOL

        • Ben in Oakland

          I saw lots and lots of pretension in the 1000 or so weddings I did. But violence only a few times.

          At one of my earlier weddings, the groom told me I had a cute butt, which I did. He invited me to go hot tubing with the wedding party that night. I declined. A few years later, I ran into the bride, and she told me that she and groom were now divorced, but we’re still good friends.

          My thought: I’m not surprised.

  • olandp

    Back in slave days she would have been considered too “uppity” for a house worker, so it would be off to the fields with her!

    • Adam King

      I’m sure her master could find all sorts of interesting uses for her.

  • bambinoitaliano

    Alt shopper spouting alt facts on an alt news network.

  • Ben in Oakland

    What does good history mean?

  • Daveed_WOW

    I think she was echoing those comments in the National Review from 1931…err…one day ago blaming liberals for discrimination.

    • The_Wretched

      Like Gohmert on the Dem Virginia Governor, It’s our fault for not stopping them from being stupid and violent..

      /s

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    Now officially gone off the rails.

  • Pip
  • bcarter3

    So according to the shoplifter, taking down statues of traitors who killed Americans in order to preserve slavery is just like something ISIS would do.

    By that same logic, the Eastern Europeans who pulled down statues of Lenin and Stalin after the collapse of the USSR are terrible, terrible people who destroyed good history. And the ones who tore down the Berlin Wall? Sacrilegious, anti-historical monsters.

  • Bj Lincoln

    Where would we be without the Civil War or slavery?
    Without slavery we would not have had the war and maybe not have the ingrained and systematic racism that has cause an entire race of people to suffer so much for so long!
    Without the war we may not have freed slaves until farther down the line and very well could have worse racism than we do now.
    The Civil War was not about slavery in the beginning. It was about moving west with cotton, who is going to claim it and breaking up the united states. Slavery became a moral issue about 2/3 into the war thanks to people bringing it to the table. Lincoln wrote the Emancipation Proclamation almost a year before he took it out of the drawer and they decided to wait until they had a victory in battle. There was one that was considered a draw so they used it as an excuse to bring it out and sign it. It was a strategic and political move on the Norths part.

    • Karl Dubhe

      It was about slavery from the get go. The south had a reasonable fear that the North would do what the British did in the 1770s; ban slavery. Their independence declarations make that very clear, they fought for slavery and white supremacy.

      In the end, slavery was banned due to their rebellion over the fear that it would be banned.

    • kareemachan

      Sorry, that’s alt-history. Yes, Western expansion played a part, but slavery was a core reason from the beginning.

      • borrowed from the Civil War Trust website:

        The appeal to states’ rights is of the most potent symbols of the American Civil War, but confusion abounds as to the historical and present meaning of this federalist principle.

        The concept of states’ rights had been an old idea by 1860. The original thirteen colonies in America in the 1700s, separated from the mother country in Europe by a vast ocean, were use to making many of their own decisions and ignoring quite a few of the rules imposed on them from abroad. During the American Revolution, the founding fathers were forced to compromise with the states to ensure ratification of the Constitution and the establishment of a united country. In fact, the original Constitution banned slavery, but Virginia would not accept it; and Massachusetts would not ratify the document without a Bill of Rights.
        The debate over which powers rightly belonged to the states and which to the Federal Government became heated again in the 1820s and 1830s fueled by the divisive issue of whether slavery would be allowed in the new territories forming as the nation expanded westward.

        The Missouri Compromise in 1820 tried to solve the problem but succeeded only temporarily. (It established lands west of the Mississippi and below latitude 36º30′ as slave and north of the line—except Missouri—as free.) Abolitionist groups sprang up in the North, making Southerners feel that their way of life was under attack. A violent slave revolt in 1831 in Virginia, Nat Turner’s Rebellion, forced the South to close ranks against criticism out of fear for their lives. They began to argue that slavery was not only necessary, but in fact, it was a positive good.

        As the North and the South became more and more different, their goals and desires also separated. Arguments over national policy grew even fiercer. The North’s economic progress as the Southern economy began to stall fueled the fires of resentment. By the 1840s and 1850s, North and South had each evolved extreme positions that had as much to do with serving their own political interests as with the morality of slavery.

        As long as there were an equal number of slave-holding states in the South as non-slave-holding states in the North, the two regions had even representation in the Senate and neither could dictate to the other. However, each new territory that applied for statehood threatened to upset this balance of power. Southerners consistently argued for states rights and a weak federal government but it was not until the 1850s that they raised the issue of secession. Southerners argued that, having ratified the Constitution and having agreed to join the new nation in the late 1780s, they retained the power to cancel the agreement and they threatened to do just that unless, as South Carolinian John C. Calhoun put it, the Senate passed a constitutional amendment to give back to the South “the power she possessed of protecting herself before the equilibrium of the two sections was destroyed.”

        Controversial—but peaceful—attempts at a solution included legal compromises, arguments, and debates such as the Wilmot Proviso in 1846, Senator Lewis Cass’ idea of popular sovereignty in the late 1840s, the Compromise of 1850, the Kansas-Nebraska Act in 1854, and the Lincoln-Douglas Debates in 1858. However well-meaning, Southerners felt that the laws favored the Northern economy and were designed to slowly stifle the South out of existence. The Fugitive Slave Law of 1850 was one of the only pieces of legislation clearly in favor of the South. It meant that Northerners in free states were obligated, regardless of their feelings towards slavery, to turn escaped slaves who had made it North back over to their Southern masters. Northerners strongly resented the law and it was one of the inspirations for the publishing of Harriet Beecher Stowe’s Uncle Tom’s Cabin in 1852.

        Non-violent attempts at resolution culminated in violence in 1859 when Northern abolitionist John Brown abandoned discussion and took direct action in a raid on the arsenal at Harpers Ferry, Virginia. Though unsuccessful, the raid confirmed Southern fears of a Northern conspiracy to end slavery. When anti-slavery Republican Abraham Lincoln won the presidential election in 1860, Southerners were sure that the North meant to take away their right to govern themselves, abolish slavery, and destroy the Southern economy. Having exhausted their legal and political options, they felt that the only way to protect themselves from this Northern assault was to no longer be a part of the United States of America. Although the Southern states seceded separately, without intending to form a new nation, they soon banded together in a loose coalition. Northerners, however, led by Abraham Lincoln, viewed secession as an illegal act. The Confederate States of America was not a new country, they felt, but a group of treasonous rebels.

  • ultragreen

    Again, these confederate statues were set up to GLORIFY the treasonous Confederacy and its addiction to slavery, they are not neutral historical monuments. If you want to set up statues from this time period, then they should be memorials to the victims of the Confederacy (people who died during the civil war, people who tried to overthrow slavery).

    • Bob Conti

      It’s a distinction that’s completely lost on them.

  • Frostbite

    That was f’ing hilarious! Katrina is as big a disaster as the hurricane was.

  • Bob Conti

    Is she trying to say that we should remember our past fuck-ups so we don’t make the same fuck-ups in the future? Because that makes sense. What she said, doesn’t.

    • Anastasia Beaverhousen

      If thats the case the Trump should have a HUGE statue.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    Fail!

  • Who? Not sure I’ve ever heard of this creature.

    • -M-

      Bullet necklace.

      • kareemachan

        I read her quote to my SO and he said, “Who?”

        And I just said what you did. The light bulb went on.

        • -M-

          She’s memorable. 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • agcons

    So she’s still around and not in jail. Pity.

  • -M-

    Germany and Japan are pretty good now, doesn’t mean every moment of their history (or ours) is commendable.

  • kareemachan

    Where’s her bullet necklace?

    • agcons

      Confiscated at her last parole board hearing, alas.

  • Paul_in_Dallas

    Anagram:

    Katrina Pierson ~ Partisan Oinker

    • Megrim Twist

      WIN!

  • This woman sets off an Uncanny Valley reaction in me. I don’t know what it is, something is just OFF. Is there such a thing as HDTV-ready makeup that spackles all evidence of pores, lines and wrinkles? She looks too smooth.

  • labman57

    Conservative mantra: Enslaving millions of Africans and their descendants was essential to making America great.

  • Talisman

    “…Katrina Pierson has (for the moment, at least) reclaimed her title as the nation’s most idiotic Republican..”

    And then the next one opens his/her mouth.

  • MarkBuster

    Well, if osefo can handle working for fox…. i don’t even know how to finish this

  • Some years ago there was a mockumentary film based on the premise that it was a BBC programme following the history of America following the south winning the Civil War. It was a very mixed affair (which is probably why more people didn’t see it). There were probably more hits and misses. The film even had “commercials” based on real and very racist-named products that actually existed in the 40s and 50s). One thing that was quite effective was seeing slavery presented in a modern context, including slaves being sold on a home shopping network type show. (You could buy the whole family or purchase them separately. Obviously that’s a horrifying image. Who would participate in such a thing? Well…ummm… LOTS OF PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT’S HOW IT WORKED!

    Fuck anyone who defends slavery. It was wrong and we should all be embarrassed that it was ever allowed in this country. Oh, and plenty of people knew it was wrong from the very beginning. Abigail Adams was quite vocal about it, and she wasn’t the only one. Don’t ever let anyone tell you that it was just accepted then. Some people could see that it was wrong which means those who couldn’t really don’t have any excuse. It’s time we just acknowledged that but a good part of the country doesn’t want to do that.

  • BEARY FLINTSTONE

    DUMB BITCH!

  • geoffalnutt

    She should’ve stuck with shoplifting. She was better at that.