“In almost every case, when we hear about so-called conversion therapy, it is a case where somebody with a same-sex attraction goes to a therapist or to a counselor to help them overcome that attraction. Like, they’re looking for counseling, for therapy to help them overcome this attraction that is troubling them and that they don’t want. There is no gay gene no matter how hard they look for one.
“And the idea that people are born gay has always been incoherent because, you know, if people are born gay – like, born gay. You’re gay from birth. Right? That’s what that would mean. And then that means that there are what? Homosexual infants out there? Again, no sane person thinks that. So there’s no reason why a person can’t seek and receive successful counseling to overcome same-sex attraction.” – Matt Walsh.