Trump: Arming Teachers Will End School Shootings

Raw Story reports:

After remaining silent most of Saturday, President Donald Trump once again made the pitch to arm school teachers with the promise that it will bring to end school shootings. Writing on Twitter, Trump pushed back against law enforcement officials and educators who want to see no weapons on school campuses at all, saying states should take the lead and give pistol-packing school officials “yearly bonuses.”

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    He’s right because everyone will refuse to go.

    • Christopher

      Thankfully I’ve never reproduced, but If they start arming teachers there’s no way in hell I’d send my little booger factory to public school.

  • MoeLarryAndJesus

    Such a useless jerkoff. “Up to the states” absolves him of all responsibility. “I gave them the solution, not my fault they didn’t do it. Sad.”

    • Tawreos

      It also means he doesn’t have to find the money for it in the budget

      • JWC

        cuz he has already cut the funding

  • Ninja0980

    Most of the people who end up carrying school shootings end up killing themselves afterwards.
    How are they going to be deterred by someone else with a gun that could kill them when they don’t give a damn about that?

    • Reality.Bites

      It’s a bit ironic that if they just offed themselves first instead they’d be remembered fondly. Sure, they’d still wreck the lives of the people who love them, but they’re doing that anyway.

      • Ninja0980

        Yup but they never do.

  • Bambino

    Mueller further charges on Gates and Manafort must be getting to him once again.
    https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/967153647854514176

  • Bambino
  • Natty Enquirer

    A moronic idea I would never expect to hear from the President of the United States.
    But I would from Donny Trump.

  • thatotherjean

    Inexpensive? Even if schools could find teachers willing to go along with this, who is going to buy those guns and pay for the training to enable teachers to use them properly? Where are the guns going to be kept in a classroom, so that students are unable to gain access to them, but teachers can? How much money are you offering teachers to become marksmen, too? Oh, you want individual states to do all this? With what? On the face of it, this proposal is idiotic. Coming from Trump, it figures.

    • Chris Baker

      What if you have a slightly ‘off’ teacher who has a permit, passes the training, but the principal/other teachers are not comfortable with him/her having a gun? Some right wing nut PE teacher who was in the Army in ‘Nam and is just a little to aggressive with the kids who can’t do 10 pushups?

    • jeffg166

      Teacher will have to show up early or stay late to make sure the gun is cleaned and ready to go every day.

    • Mark_in_MN

      Clearly the teachers will have to provide their own gun and training. And maybe that annual bonus would be a couple hundred dollars. Seems fair, right? (Obviously not, but that’s how it usually works in GOP land.)

  • Lazycrockett

    So fucking stupid.

  • Cackalaquiano

    There we go. This was to be expected. Somebody just had to get him back on point.

    • Bambino

      He is not adept to finding the laser dot.

  • DaddyRay

    In the 80’s I went to Acapulco. There were armed guards with machine guns at the entrance to the resort. It did not make me feel safe, in fact it is one of the reasons I never went back

    • Bambino

      You never eat in a restaurant with lots of mouse traps in the kitchen.

      • Reality.Bites

        Unless it’s a restaurant that specializes in mouse.

        • Bambino

          Only the farmed mice are edible not your stray pizza eating ones 😛

          • Reality.Bites

            Sure, but you still would need traps to catch the ones you’re going to serve.

            And what you cynically call “stray pizza eating” the management of “and Jerry’s” calls “free range.”

          • narutomania

            “Free range”

            Brilliant !!!!!! Another hearty laugh for me this week !!!!!!
            (hahahahahahaha … thank you)

          • Canadian Observer

            Whoops, didn’t mean to plagiarize your free range meme… I typed before I finished reading this part of the thread. On the other hand, I think this demonstrates that some of us are thinking exactly along the same lines… perhaps we can get a group discount from a mental health professional when we realize this needs to be dealt with.

          • Canadian Observer

            I think that depends if you are on the paleo diet or not… I believe they have a strong preference for free range mouse.

        • Snarkaholic

          Chocolate mouse is one of my favorite desserts!

      • Robincho

        Surely they know all about this in the kitchen at Mar-a-Lardo…

        • thatotherjean

          They have failed at least one food safety inspection since Trump became President. Maybe that’s why he’s set on cutting the budget for such things.

    • Phil2u

      It’s in Guerrero, isn’t it? Acapulco?

    • boobert

      I felt the same way when we went to the 911 memorial in NYC a few years back ! Armed guards everywhere, you had to walk several blocks from where the bus let you off and you couldn’t even bring a bottle of water with you.

      • Snarkaholic

        I’m sure the ones stationed outside Chump’s hotels have caused more than one or two potential customers to change their minds.

    • ColdCountry

      I will say, I found it unsettling to see soldiers with automatic weapons sprinkled around Heathrow.

      • Chris Baker

        I was just going to say the same thing. First time I went to Paris, there were armed military(?) there with automatic weapons. It was a surprise. But I have seen that in various European airports (and groups of armed police/military walking around the streets of Nice, France. I don’t know it is was reassuring or disconcerting, or both.

        • ColdCountry

          Greece and Italy also had them hanging about the airports, and even in a few of the streets. I’d really rather not see that here.

          • Wynter Marie Starr

            As does Rio. Even in the malls. It terrified me.

        • ChrisMorley

          They tell us it’s for our reassurance and safety. Armed British police appear on the streets after terrorist attacks.

          It’s stable doors after the horses have bolted.

          • Chris Baker

            Well, you can’t blame them, the authorities have to do something. People are on edge and want to be assured that security has been increased. There could be copy cats wanting to copy the attack, etc.

        • I vote for disconcerting. I remember during the 2004 GOP Convention going through Penn Station with all the heavily armed personnel. Not only did I not want those warmongering homophobes in my city but I didn’t feel better about walking through what looked like the Iraqi Green Zone.

        • thatotherjean

          There were way too many soldiers with guns in the streets in Egypt the last time I was there. I suspect it is worse now, with all the unrest over the last few years. It wasn’t reassuring at all.

    • BearEyes

      we were in Puerto Vallarta for Beef Dip. Every so often, a jeep with camo paint and 3-4 armed soldiers would be driving through the downtown area. Un-nerving to say the least. We didn’t see them south of there in the zona romantica gay section.
      Did make me think twice though.

    • JCF

      Puerto Vallarta in the 90s: they were riding around in pick-up trucks. Did.Not.Like.

  • HZ81

    I vomit out of every available orifice. So sad this “man” is in office. Some just had to have a man in charge and those same people chose this.

  • Steven B
    • ColdCountry

      That seems simple. Maybe too simple for the Dumpster to grasp?

    • Bad Tom

      D. The stick lobby calls everyone against A or B libtards.

    • Robincho

      D. Then stick the stick up Dump’s ass…

    • zhera

      NRA version:

      D. Protect the stick. Make it illegal to remove, or even criticize the stick. Give the stick a stick.

    • clay

      A. Give everybody sticks.

      BUT sticks (usually) aren’t lethal and it’s a teaching opportunity to learn empathy (or how to fake it).

    • or
      D. Give the teachers sticks to set an example for impressionable children.
      (sarcasm, just in case someone thinks it’s serious)

  • Lazycrockett

    While I did have a handful of good caring teachers, the majority of them were care less, 3 months off in the summer, alcoholics with rage issues folks. They shouldn’t have possession of fire arms.

  • JWC

    This fat dumb piece of shit doesn’t have a clue what he is talking about Its just scatter conversation to his base He has to say “something’ and to him “anything’ works

    • Bambino

      NRA send him a note. Say something and we will deposit another check.

      • JWC

        why am I not surprised by that

  • Matt

    Dimwit.

  • greenmanTN

    Just when you think “That’s the stupidest fucking thing I ever heard!” he proves you wrong.

    • paganguy

      Another day, another reason to loathe him.

  • AtticusP

    STFU and go plan your pointless military parade, you worthless piece of shit. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e4642842c7d65588373c7b0e575e049120c23e4605f434a7f1ef26ea5e348d72.jpg

  • Phil2u

    New favorite school musical: “Annie, Get Your Gun!”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGB7yTZEZE4

    • Paula

      The song is wrong. You can get him, the hanging, gutting, and skinning is where the real skill comes in.

  • DaddyRay

    No other country in the world has to have armed teachers in the schools.

  • teedofftaxpayer

    Cheap right wing taxpayers in my area doesn’t even want to fund the schools, let alone fund arming of the teachers. Once they find out the taxpayers are going to have to pay for it, it won’t happen.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Well, the arm the schools NRA talking-point has created the most coverage and responses so of course Donnie’s going to come out for it. So now we’re talking about that lunacy instead of real solutions.

  • greenmanTN

    I had a major conflict with my freshman year algebra teacher, the Ur math hag. If either of us had a gun one of us would talking from prison and the other would be speaking through a Ouija board. I’m just saying…

  • Halou

    And the moment an over-worked teacher “goes postal”…

    • Michael R

      More mental health counseling
      ( which never happens )

      • Tomcat

        Would take away money from rich men’s tax cuts.

    • Bambino

      Then he will moved to arming the students. One trick solution. Just arm anyone that still alive in the schools until no one is left.

  • JWC

    ever get the idea Donny has one shoe nailed to the floor “crooked Hilary, crooked Hilary, bad Obama bad Obama, crooked Hilary…”

    • jmax

      Only one oar in the water.

  • bkmn
    • Ninja0980

      Not just that but he allowed someone he KNEW was unstable to handle a gun.
      Not too smart there.

      • JCF

        He believed in the “magical power of guns to heal”. A cure for the disease called life…

  • Jim Maloney

    “Shootings will not happen again…”

    Is that a guarantee? Sure Jan.

    I could some seeing it as a challenge to bring their gun into school.

    • Tomcat

      Unless gay people cause it by being gay, that is.

  • Treant

    Keep dribbling, Dumpster. Even the middle of the road is disgusted with you over this.

  • 1980Gardener

    It won’t end school shootings for one simple reason – school shooters are not sane, rational people who make a risk/benefit analysis before going on a rampage. School shooters are sick, demented people suffering from serious mental illness. They aren’t committing these atrocities because they feel as if they won’t get caught, injured or killed – in fact, many people believe that such results are a sought after outcome of may shooters.

  • Halou
  • Kevin Andrews

    The only way that arming professional educators would end mass murders in America’s indoctrination centers is if they collectively aim and fire at the Oval Office and the NRA.

  • Gustav2

    Up to the states, not my problem!

    • clay

      “The buck passes here.”

  • Tomcat

    More armed people for some reason just does NOT make me feel safer at all.

    • TexasBoy

      Yep. I went to the Kennedy Space Center shortly after 9/11. There were heavily armed military personnel in all the visitor center areas. I have not been back, it was creepy.

      • Zeldacat

        I was there a couple of years ago and there were no guards. It was awesome. You might want to try again if you’re ever in the area.

        ETA: They did do a brief search of my purse, but that was no surprise, really. No guns in sight.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

    This might be what ends him. Most ridiculous “policy” idea in the history of sentient thought.

    • clay

      Take 432 [snap]

  • Friday’s_cat

    The clip on arming teachers made in front of the CPAC loons played on MSNBC and CNN sounds like America got it’s wish. An idiot in the White House just like them.

    • CraigNJ

      “instantly shooting”? I guess he means the teachers will be carrying weapons at all time because it would take too long to have to get them from a locked cabinet.

      • Steve Teeter

        If they can be “instantly shooting” then that’s what is called “hair-trigger.” He wants people like that in our schools? Really?

        • Snarkaholic

          Won’t the shooter(s) just wear body armor?

    • Robincho

      If anything, it’d be “weapons-talented”, but even then, your word construction is lame as shit. Just like you…

    • tamiasmin

      ”Must be offensive, defense alone won’t work!”

      Huh? Sounds like he wants school guards to go out into the neighborhood and start shooting in the hope they might hit a bad guy.

      How about a 500-yard perimeter around the school, a ”very strong” wall, and a moat with alligators?

    • Taya

      May I copy this please? It may help my defense at home…

      • It’s how I got it.

        • Taya

          Lol fair enough. Just rather ask than take, naivete at it’s best.

          • I consider these things as meant to be shared when placed on sites that don’t block right clicks.

          • Taya

            Good way to view things, I personally see most art, education and music in the same way… apparently that’s not ok but still, culture is humanity. You do find some of the best memes.

          • I’ve built a collection over 5-6 years of just over 7gb but some of that is an odd video or two, apps or other assorted crap I never clear out of the folder.

    • Halou

      And when a maga-hat wearing maniac murders 17 people, the fault apparently lies with the people he failed to kill.

    • kareemachan

      tomi, you’re just a twunt, and a stupid one at that.

    • And when highly trained deputies with guns fail to go after a gunman armed with an assault weapon, you think the answer is to give teachers guns?

      • thatotherjean

        Imagine–none of the deputies armed with handguns were willing to go after a shooter armed with an AR-15. And Trump expects teachers to stand up and commit suicide when the LEOs won’t? I don’t think so.

        • olandp

          But LEOs ar important and heroic, teachers are expendable.* /s

          *I have more teachers in my family than most people have family.

  • j.martindale

    Well, I am glad that is settled. Now we can work on nightclubs and concerts and hotels and other places the shooters can massacre people. What a dolt!

  • Tomcat

    Hey trump, any idea how many teachers are drug users and or alcoholics?

    • Halou

      That all depends on how much he and Cruella DeVos decide to cut the public education budget.

  • ceeenbee

    “Armed Educators (and trusted people who work within a school) love our students and will protect them.”

    You mean like the 5 sheriffs deputies who refused to go in did?

    The shitgibbon is such a fucking joke. And, to make matters worse, he wants to put the onus for paying them on the states when they are already struggling.

  • bkmn
    • Halou

      Life is a tragic comedy.

      • MBear

        *America

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
    • Wisterley

      That’s actually who he’s copying. He thinks it makes him look strong.

  • TexasBoy

    Just imagine if a Trump supporting teacher had a gun, and a student wouldn’t stand for the Pledge!

  • Slippy_World
  • ceeenbee

    If teachers are given guns, I’m taking bets on how long it’s going to take before one shoots a student for being disrespectful. I’ll put the over/under at 1 month.

    • Amanda B. Rekendwith

      Give all the US Senators a gun and it’ll be waaay less than an month before one of them shoots Ted Cruz!

  • Richard Rush

    Two points:

    1) If one to four armed deputies declined to enter the school building, doesn’t it imply that armed teachers are likely to be even less effective?

    2) I can easily imagine a student confiscating a teachers gun – and/or shooting the teacher – before engaging in a mass shooting with a semi-automatic weapon.

  • JustDucky
  • CanuckDon

    Trump couldn’t give two shits about this issue one way or the other. He doesn’t know anyone who has kids in public schools. He doesn’t want to know anyone who has kids in public schools. He couldn’t care less about teachers. He couldn’t care less about any of this except that it’s good red meat to stir up the base and keep his NRA overlords happy.

  • kanehau

    Have you consulted experts in the field to see if this is true?

    Have you looked at statistics at places where this has been the case?

    Or are you just dishing out policy from your fucking gut reaction and the advice of people with agendas?

    • clay

      It’s been a year, and you still ask?

  • Phil2u
  • ClevelandJim

    Someone pleeeeease take his fucking phone away!

  • TexasBoy

    If this idiot gets his way, I hope the teachers at every public school quit en masse.

    • Followed by a visit to Washington in mass while using those second amendment rights.

  • Max_1

    This only brings guns closer to children…

    • tamiasmin

      ”What’s that you said about the breaded liver cutlets?”

  • jmax
  • Guns don’t deter anything.

    Mass shooters in nearly all cases either plan to commit suicide or figure being killed by the cops is far more likely than not—and they don’t care.

    Arming select teachers at a school will guarantee only two things: 1) They and their classrooms will be shot up first. 2) The likelihood they shoot each other or are shot by cops goes way up.

    The “shot by cops” will be highest of all for any armed African American male teachers.

    • Ninja0980

      Yup and many of these school shootings are planned too.
      They are going to take the people they know have guns into account.

      • Chris Baker

        Or at least shoot the teacher first. When someone is shooting a roomful of people with a automatic weapon, it’s difficult to hit him, from what little I know. It’s not like the movies where you have 3 gunmen who can’t hit the protagonist in a barrage of bullets, but he can whip out his pistol, and and as they are chasing him, he can kill all three with just 3 shots. There’s also bulletproof vests.

        Shooters like these don’t take logic into mind. They are mentally disturbed. They want to create terror and expect to get killed. If they shoot 1 or 20, they have accomplished their mission. Or they will just go to malls, or movie theaters, or concerts.

        Also, if someone knows that a teacher has a gun, someone’s gonna try and steal it.

        • And then there comes a day when the armed teacher is going through an especially messy divorce or some other life crisis or is being threatened with being fired…

        • Canadian Observer

          OMG, are you suggesting the use of guns in movies and television is not accurate? Why that is like suggesting that if three guys jump me and try to beat the crap out of me I am going to get a magical burst of energy halfway through the beating, shrug off the damage and then hand them their asses… cause I am the hero in this imaginary story.

    • JCF

      But we can trust that cops shooting an innocent armed black male teacher will be Oh So Sorry…

  • PattyJM

    Anyone want to bet that if teachers are all given guns the first person they kill will be a student?

    • Phil2u

      Having taught for over thirty years, my suspicion would be a fellow educator with whom he/she has had a dispute. The back-stabbing is astounding.

    • About one third of gun deaths are suicides, don’t teachers already have enough reasons to be depressed?

      • PattyJM

        I was thinking of the teacher hitting a student by accident when aiming at a gunman. You DO have a point, though.

    • JustDucky

      Guns. This is about the fucking guns. We can’t let them distract us. We must ban the semi-automatic rifles.

      • May get an age restriction but sadly a ban is far fetched at this point.

        • JustDucky

          California, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and New York all have assault weapons bans in force. If we focus on changing the laws state-by-state, we can make progress. And eventually, we’ll win.

          • canoebum

            New York does not have an assault weapons ban. We have registration, waiting periods and periodic recertification of assault weapons and their owners. There are also background checks on the purchase of ammunition and required safe firearms storage(locks or safes).

          • JustDucky

            “New York’s assault weapon law prohibits manufacturing, transporting, disposing of or possessing an assault weapon in the state.”

            http://lawcenter.giffords.org/assault-weapons-in-new-york/

            Perhaps you’re talking about assault weapons that were grandfathered in?

            “I have an assault weapon. Do I have to give it up?

            A: No. If you have an assault weapon, you can register it with the State Police. You have until April 15, 2014 to register your weapon.”

            https://safeact.ny.gov/gun-owners

          • canoebum

            Ok. No new ones can be sold or brought into the state. There are still plenty of them here, so not actually banned outright. If you own an assault weapon and want to sell it, you have to sell it out of state. I was wrong about the waiting periods.

    • Octoberfurst

      Ret happens to be a friend of mine! She’s always nails it! 🙂

  • shellback

    To: Dullard Turmp
    You don’t want to hear this, but, you work for me. In effect, you are my employee. As my employee, I am telling you right now, STOP BEING AN ASSHOLE. And while you’re at it, stop being a fucken nazi traitor or face the guillotine.

    • clay

      Ironically, it’s a failure in education– Donald’s education.

  • MikeBx2

    That’s right. A person would have to be suicidal to try to shoot up a school knowing a teacher is armed. No one who is suicidal ever commits these shootings. /s

  • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

    The solution is prevention, not reaction.

  • Phil2u
    • Bluto

      Guessing the oldest one shot his foot off & is called Pegleg now.

      • Robincho

        Fortunately, there was a jerb waiting for him at IHOP…

      • clay

        and then little Nancy clipped Bud in the head when she swung around to see. SOOOOOoooo undisciplined, the little shit.

  • ColdCountry

    Yell that you have the best idea, then insist someone else pays for it. Sounds about par for the course. However, Donnie, people don’t want this, I doubt you’d get enough teachers to agree to it, AND IT WON’T WORK.

  • Makoto

    Because no “trusted person” with a gun ever accidentally shot the wrong person, intentionally shot the wrong person, left their gun where it shouldn’t be, …

    Of course, he bails on any responsibility for anything at the end there. “Up to the states”. In other words, “Not my fault if you don’t instantly fix all of this individually across the entire nation”

    • billbear1961

      Yes, Mr. “I’m the only one who can solve our problems” bails, as usual.

      MAGA!

  • billbear1961

    From “GOP Spins Wheels on Gun Control”:

    Arm teachers: Donald Trump instinctively believes that the way to counter a force is with a more powerful force, and so his knee-jerk response to the Florida shootings was to arm teachers. Not all teachers, mind you, just the ones with significant military or police backgrounds, which Trump says comprise 10 percent to 40 percent of most school staffs. The term used by statisticians to refer to figures like those is “pulled out of thin air.” There is absolutely nothing to suggest that such large percentages of school employees have this expertise. And that is the least of the problems with Trump’s proposal, which brings to mind an old quote from H. L. Mencken: “There is always a well-known solution to every human problem—neat, plausible, and wrong.” People first began talking about arming teachers and other school employees back in the 1970s, and they quickly concluded that bringing more guns into classrooms would almost certainly increase violence rather than reducing it. Not only by making weapons available to be stolen or grabbed by miscreants, but also by setting a very negative tone (like, say, a prison). Among the people who feel this way are nearly all teachers, who are generally unionized, and so would have the means to refuse to abide by such a plan. Beyond that, a handgun is really no match for an automatic or semi-automatic rifle, and so Trump’s proposals would not be turning teachers into school defenders as much as it would be turning them into cannon fodder. Then there is the fact that we already have proof that this approach would be ineffective: The Florida school shootings. It turned out that there was an armed police deputy present throughout the entire incident, and instead of engage and neutralize the shooter, he spent the whole time hiding in the shadows outside the school. If a professional lawman can’t be persuaded to risk his life, can we really expect teachers to do so without hesitation?

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2018/Senate/Maps/Feb24.html#item-3

    So, apparently, the “solution” is a school full of teachers or security agents toting machine guns.

    Many in the American media (rushing to the defense of the blood-stained NRA and their lackeys in D.C. and state governments) to gun-control advocates: “Oh, you are so unreasonable–and hateful!–to be angry at politicians who’ll let any maniac get hold of a machine gun to mow you and your kids down! The obvious solution is for everyone to own a machine gun!!!!”

    • Canadian Observer

      Bill, are you in contact with the writer of the piece you quoted. I think there is a very minor, tiny editing mistake… the author wrote “The term used by statisticians to refer to figures like those is “pulled out of thin air”.” I think they meant to write “pulled out of their own ass”. Smells that way anyway.

  • Nick in Pasadena

    And yet still no tweet about Rick Gates. Could it be his handlers have nixed all the ones that said “No collusion!” and “Fake news!” and “I barely knew him!”?

    • billbear1961

      He only made coffee!

  • anne marie in philly

    FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING NRA DICK-SUCKING BASTARD!

  • Chris Baker

    I assume this is only for suburban, mostly white schools?

    /sarcasm

  • juanjo54

    I can think of no better recipe for disaster than cops running into an activer shooter situation where there a bunch of civilians running around with weapons.

  • Jerry Kott

    What could go wrong. Raise kids like there is evil lurking everywhere and you will cultivate creatures like Sarah Huckabilly.

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/utah-teacher-shoots-herself-the-leg-while-school

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    It’s pretty obvious by now that trump has zero critical thinking skills. Why not ask teachers? The fact is that you will never be able to train teachers in the way we train police and other paramilitary groups. Adding armed teacher to the mass confusion during a mass shooting guarantees more casualties, not less. Everyday in every way, trump proves himself to be an old, fat, unhealthy, mentally unstable jackass.

  • GayOldLady

    Trump will think this until a student or an intruder disarms a teacher and uses it to kill them or other students. At this point we know the school officer and 3 responding officers refused to go into the school, likely because they knew the shooter had superior fire power. Guns aren’t the solution, they’re the problem.

  • March For Our Lives has a goal of registering 4 million new 18 – 24 year old voters by November. They feel this is realistic.
    The Marches on March 24 will also be voter registration efforts.
    This demographic votes with the Democrats the most, but turns out in the lowest numbers.
    They have this page available on their web site and are assembling links. The response has already been overwhelming (but we have to hope they are getting professional data management help — )
    This is very audacious, but they know they will not be taken seriously without this.
    No wonder the GOP is shaking in their pants!
    https://www.marchforourlives.com/vote-for-our-lives
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/01053bfa56793468cda010d7911cf6a76c8eb7768bb421b81ab1ffd866eb8b8d.jpg

    • Bad Tom

      Larger than the difference between Trump and Clinton.

      Russia will have to double its efforts to overcome that.

      Good.

    • Snarkaholic

      Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere…but Emma Gonzalez Did it!
      Twitter followers as of 12:20 am:
      Emma: 659K!!!
      NRA: 559K

  • boatboy_srq

    Humph.

    So, assuming just for the sake of argument that this will be effective, schools are now covered. What do we do about concerts? Churches? Offices (some of us remember 101 California)? Really.

  • Ben in Oakland

    Shootings will not happen again?

    They will until youget this program implemented. And afterwards? remember, these are supposedly crazy people. They will not care. And what if the teacher is shot first? And some will simply take it as a challenge.

    Yes, that’s the ticket. Arm everyone.

    • Amanda B. Rekendwith

      I hear Oprah now…
      “You get a rocket launcher and you get a rocket launcher.
      Rocket launchers for everyone!!!”

  • DumbHairyApe

    As a teacher I’m offended and horrified by this idea. I know of too many teachers who I would not want to be handling a gun, and NONE I can think of would welcome such a device in any classroom.
    And, if this were allowed to happen, guess who the first person a gunman with an AR-15 will be looking for when they enter a school to kill others???
    Thanks, Trump, for trying to paint a target on the back of educators. You REALLY don’t want the citizens of the country to learn how to think and get an education, do you?

    • Natty Enquirer

      All very reasonable. But there’s no point engaging a troll on the basis of reason.

  • Bambino

    The same people who called to arm the teachers are afraid you are going to toss your pocket change at them.
    https://twitter.com/2020fight/status/967235070267244544

  • ohbear1957

    As much as we’d love a bonus, No thanks.
    We all have bone spurs.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CUXLuVjO-w

  • KnownDonorDad

    For your consideration, a very different opinion on the effect of arming teachers, “You Realize Arming Teachers Is Going To Lead To Black Students Getting Murdered By Their Teacher, Right?”:

    https://abovethelaw.com/2018/02/you-realize-arming-teachers-is-going-to-lead-to-black-students-getting-murdered-by-their-teacher-right/

    • thatotherjean

      The most obnoxious kid in some class, no matter what color he/she was, would eventually be shot by some off-balance teacher, yes. It probably wouldn’t take long.There are a lot of obnoxious kids and pugnacious teachers out there.

  • margaretpoa

    So, four trained cops at Parkland hid the whole time the shooting was taking place but the untrained, underpaid teachers would have intervened?
    What a fucking idiot.

  • Duh-David

    “Must be firearms adept & have annual training” Can we require the same thing for all Americans?

  • #DJTK5F

    Make soldiers out of teachers. They can be deployed in summer months for a little extra pay. Not much, but give ’em something. A bonus. An inexpensive way to flesh out our military, and let the full-time soldiers take a break. Genius.

    Better yet, let RETIRED teachers become armed security guards. They’re always complaining about how their defined benefit pension plans don’t keep up with the cost of living, they can probably use the extra cash. Again, not much but a little extra something. VERY cost-effective security enhancement.

    Hey, Teacher! You want the government to keep funding your expensive health insurance in retirement? Then strap on a kevlar vest, and start protecting the kids.

  • worstcultever

    So what about the mass shootings everywhere else?

    Oh, and also –

    https://twitter.com/HillaryWarnedUs/status/967334292543205376

  • RemusL

    I guess the White House and PotUS don’t need Secret Service protection. Armed servants (and trusted people who work within the White House love our PotUS and will protect him. Very smart people. Must be firearms adept & have annual training. Should get yearly bonus. Shootings will not happen – a big & very inexpensive deterrent.

  • #DJTK5F

    “We’ll call them “SECURITATORS!”

  • Bambino
  • KaBoomBOX

    This can only end in more tears.

  • Mark_in_MN

    This terrible and utterly stupid idea works on two things at once: it boosts the worship of guns while lining he gun industry’s pockets, and it works to undermine public education. Both are keen goals if right wing politics, it seems.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    If we’re going to target people/things that push guns, we need to go after the lobbyists. Why the hell should they enjoy the champagne lifestyle without consequences of their actions? Why do survivors of gun attacks get flamed on social media and she hide under the radar? Fuck that.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nra-lobbyist-writes-florida-apos-201000893.html

    “A 78-year-old lobbyist, dubbed the most powerful in her industry when it comes to pro-gun legislation, has been behind much of Florida’s gun legislation, or lack thereof, for decades and now faces scrutiny over her influence following last week’s
    deadly shooting at a local high school.

    Marion Hammer serves as the National Rifle Association’s lobbyist in Florida and works out of Tallahassee as the go-to for the gun lobbying and gun rights legislation, according to a profile by The New Yorker published Friday.

    • Reality.Bites

      I’d love the irony if she was unable to withstand the public scrutiny and contempt and offed herself by taking an overdose of pills.

  • clay

    So, these bonuses, only for the teachers still living at the end of the year?

    • Mikey

      Don’t be silly. The government will hold on to it, and award it to them upon retirement.

  • Canadian Observer

    If Donny the “billionaire” is so convinced that he is right, I am so surprised he isn’t offering to pay these bonuses out of his own pocket…

  • Mike
    • Mikey

      that “poll” is entirely useless, it has a 500 person group of “potential voters”. It is meaningless.
      trump’s approval rating is FAR far lower than 50% when much larger samples of population are taken.

      • Mike

        That’s very good news – the alternative wouldn’t be a good look.

    • Reality.Bites

      It’s a Rasmussen poll, consistently showing higher Republican support than other posters.

  • -M-

    Because, Magic.

  • R W C

    Arming teachers becomes a worse idea with every time he mentions it.

  • Maybe we should just hire SWAT team members and Navy SEALs to teach English Lit and Trigonometry. That makes as much sense.

  • TampaDink

    O.G.F.Y! (oh go fuck yourself)……….with a rusty chainsaw.

  • FelineMama

    I HAVE A BETTER IDEA!! And, it wouldn’t cost taxpayers much!!

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    No sane person should expect a teacher to sacrifice their life for their students. They can care all they want about their students, but people need to remember that teachers are people with their own families. It’s very little comfort to hear your loved one died a hero.

    • Gretchen

      I would like to think I would have reflexively protected my students had the situation arose, but expecting me to proactively seek out a gunman and take a life myself is too much to ask of an educator.

  • kareemachan

    My main problem with this are these two probable scenarios:

    1. Teacher wears gun to have it at hand. Instead of going out and buying or stealing a gun, a student blindsides teacher, grabs gun, starts shooting.

    OR

    2. Teacher responsibly locks gun in secure spot in classroom. Gunman comes in, teacher doesn’t have time to get gun and be a trumpesque “hero”.

    No good, either way.

    • Gretchen

      Considering how frequently I misplaced my glasses, dry erase marker (that I was in the middle of using), cellphone, SMART board accessories, keys, and the occasional 7th grader, I can’t even comprehend the folly of expecting me to be responsible for a firearm. I would have quit on the spot if teachers in my building were carrying guns.

  • Martin Cunningham

    The fundamental problem, whatever the merits of the plan might be, is that teachers cannot be forced to carry guns; it would have to be done on a voluntary basis And it’s beginning to look like 1) very few would volunteer, and 2) many teachers would walk out if forced to work in a gun packed school.

    • MaryJOGrady

      Having done some consulting for one of the national teacher’s unions, I would be very worried about the teachers who *would* volunteer.
      (Heaven preserve us from the coaches.)

  • tbj5

    It’s disgusting that he’s using kids’ lives and safety as a distraction from his impending legal doom and imprisonment.

  • geoffalnutt

    “…and teacher Rebecca Porter was found face down in classroom B – a bullet in her back. A fully-loaded semi-automatic was found still in her purse. The gunmen came from behind. She never had a chance.” That’s just one of eleventy-seven different scenarios where a teacher having a gun is useless. Fuck you, Donnie.

  • MaryJOGrady

    I remember after the Sandy Hook slaughter, when the idea of arming teachers was first bruited about, to my knowledge. The usual reaction was, “Ha, ha, ha! That’s hilarious. You’re nuts.”
    I can hardly believe that this ludicrous idea is being taken seriously by anyone.

    • thatotherjean

      If you’re the shooter, and you know the teachers have guns, whom do you shoot first? You and your tricked-out AR-15 stands a lot better chance of killing them than they have of killing you.

      • MaryJOGrady

        Very true.

  • EdmondWherever

    Fort. Fucking. Hood.

  • Mikey Ruck

    ‘cuz alcoholism is solved by more alcohol, smoking by providing more cigarettes, and drug addiction by providing more drugs.

  • A former teacher and colleague wrote an excellent article that is a must read. I will give the link and the full text. Please feel free to share:

    https://beg-no-questions.com/2018/02/23/a-child-in-the-white-house-playing-with-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-598

  • SDG

    When is this fuctard going to end his 2016 campaign?

    • thatotherjean

      He started campaigning for 2020 on Inauguration Day. He signed the paperwork on Jan. 20, 2017. Really.

  • andrew

    How is arming teachers going to end the slaughter of people by men armed with assault weapons? Armed police in Florida didn’t prevent that massacre. One thing that will help is stronger gun control legislation. Fuck the NRA.