Franklin Graham: I Don’t Hate Gays, I Just Want Them To Know The Truth About Their Evil Sinful Lifestyle

“Why can’t Christians have the freedom to say ‘No’ to what they want to say no to? The LGBT community continues to target Christians to try to get us to accept their lifestyle. It ain’t gonna happen. God calls homosexuality sin — take it up with Him if you don’t like it. He is the one who defines sin, not me. As a Christian of course I don’t hate gays, I love them and want them to know the truth. If they choose to live that lifestyle, they certainly have the freedom to do so in this country — but don’t tell me what I have to believe or participate in.

“I appreciate the fact that Cathy Miller stood up for her beliefs. She’s the owner of Tastries Bakery in Bakersfield, CA, and she refused to go against her convictions and create a custom wedding cake for a same-sex couple. There will be another hearing on February 2, so we need to pray for Cathy and for our religious freedoms to be upheld. The courts should never be able to force Christians to go against what the Word of God teaches.” – Franklin Graham, in a Facebook post that’s been shared over 13,000 times.

  • Joseph Miceli

    Franklin doesn’t hate gays, God does! Well, good to know. Now will the reverend be taking his throne on the pile of dead gay kids that he’s responsible for?

  • Boreal

    Oh poor Franklin, we already know the truth; sin is an imaginary grift to make money for charlatans like yourself, as for being gay……………….

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/815a95MWXBL.png

    • PickyPecker

      Lotta nippleage going on there.

      • Boreal

        Calls fer a song.

        https://youtu.be/tne65N0ICJw

      • ted-

        They’re beautiful things.

      • Todd20036

        Mine are hardwired, which is why I’ll never pierce them. I don’t want to risk them losing sensitivity

    • PickyPecker

      That pic was from last year’s JMG Holiday party, wasn’t it?

      • ted-

        I need to get on that invite list! Sheeeet!

      • Boreal

        Yes, the kitchen shot.

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Try the veal!

        • David Walker

          Speaking of kitchens and such… TOTALLY NSFW (which makes it so much more fun)
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et1y2XJzKjs

          • Trevor Brown

            My mother is Mrs. Brown…:-P

        • peacfulseas inWA

          Strange, I hadn’t noticed it was shot in the kitchen until you mentioned it. I just got new glasses too.

    • gaycuckhubby

      Yes, we know it. But there’s a lot of queer kids and a lot of closeted religious people who don’t know it.

      • Todd20036

        I could not care less about religious Narniains, but queer kids with parents trying to “fix” them… that bites.

    • ted-

      These are friggin HOT dudes! Thank you for making my day. Now, I need to figure out how to stop drooling.

      • peacfulseas inWA

        Yes, but where is the drop down with ” See More “

        • Boreal

          That’s what zippers are for.

        • ted-

          Haha

      • JackFknTwist

        Don’t stop drooling dude; that’s part of the pleasure.

        • ted-

          Hugs

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Sin does not exist in nature or anywhere in the universe. It has no mass nor substance, no physical location or any other properties. It was a concept invented by extortionist priests who happen to have a monopoly on the only cure – for a price. (Indulgences)

      • 2patricius2

        I like these words of Walt Whitman from Song of Myself: “I think I could turn and live with animals, they are so placid and self-contain’d,
        I stand and look at them long and long.

        They do not sweat and whine about their condition,
        They do not lie awake in the dark and weep for their sins,
        They do not make me sick discussing their duty to God,
        Not one is dissatisfied, not one is demented with the mania of owning things,
        Not one kneels to another, nor to his kind that lived thousands of years ago,
        Not one is respectable or unhappy over the whole earth.”

        • Lars Littlefield

          I’m very fond of Walt Whitman. I would like to have known him. My only concern is that he was famous for neglecting his personal hygiene.

          • David Walker

            Huh. I always thought he was famous for his poetry.

          • Lars Littlefield

            Yup. A poet who could clear a room if the wind wasn’t right. 🙂

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          • jmax

            Hygiene fascist! 🙂

          • jixter

            I’ve never heard or read that claim, Lars. Where did you come across it?

          • Lars Littlefield

            It’s not a claim. It’s well documented in several biographies and life profiles. Something I was amused about when I encountered it in classes on Walt Whitman and American poets in general when I was an undergraduate. Whitman’s aversion to bathing and topics like the subtext of homosexuality in Huckleberry Finn were sort of my specialty. Anything to do with American authors who were recognized as great, but never acknowledgd as batting for our team. mentioned for our team.

          • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

            So, take the upwind chair… 😉

    • I’d be very appreciative if you could post more like this.
      many more.
      less clothes though.
      and more of a dad bod (muscles are…meh…)

    • JackFknTwist

      Beautiful looking guys.

      • CityWOOF

        Daniel Marvin and Pedro Andreas for your Googling pleasure.

    • BlackGayAthetist
      • Boreal

        Decisions, decisions. I like short and tall.

      • Danieruw

        Now that’s a gorgeous smile!

    • Lars Littlefield

      Being gay certainly has its PECSperqs. 🙂

    • DaveMiller135

      Totally OT, but more important than anything Franklin Graham has to say: These poor boys never seem to be able to find shirts that fit them. Either they’re two sizes too tight, or they don’t finish covering them up. I mention it only in passing. That is, I’m not planning to do anything about it.

    • Jay Silversmith

      It’s sin-sational.

    • vorpal

      Of course, Christians just LOVE it when atheists stand up to them to try to make the world a better place. They always react with such dignity and nobleness. /s
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4566dee2d6a72dd0c1e9b4e2e20b46eb3c5c9138cd331ec2ce7b15397047dc7f.jpg

      • Todd20036

        God is dead. I’ve eaten the body. With garlic bread.

        I prefer marinara sauce over meat sauce.

      • Boreal

        Imagine the outrage if atheists had vandalized one of their billboards.

  • PickyPecker

    Oh, fuck off Franklin
    Happy Holidays, JMG’ers!!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn8eHxesJTE

  • DoctorDJ
  • Pollos Hermanos

    I don’t hate shameless hucksters but they need to realize that they’re going to burn in hell for hiding behind God to push their false dogma.

  • Ninja0980

    “But don’t tell me what I have to believe or participate in.”
    Funny, you’ve been doing that to us for decades now.

    • Pollos Hermanos

      I’m pretty sure there are very few gays beating down Franklin Graham’s door to force him to participate in gay sex.

      Don’t flatter yourself, Franklin. We’re not that into you.

  • gaycuckhubby

    I heard that line a lot growing up in a fundamentalist household and community… it was bullshit then and it’s bullshit now

  • ted-

    He’s soooo fucking lucky there’s no real god, or he’d be struck down by one years ago.

  • peacfulseas inWA

    Don’t waste your breath Frankie I’ve known the truth since I was 12 yrs old ,it’s all about control. I’m as much an old fossil as you.

    • evan_or

      Yes, I think I was 11 or 12 when I figured that out too. Got up and walked out of Saturday catechism and never went back.

      • peacfulseas inWA

        I made 1st Communion and Confirmation to satisfy my Italian, father’s side, and Irish, mother’s side . After that we were free to explore. None of my 3 sisters are religious.

  • Mark Née Fuzz

    I don’t hate Franklin. Just want him to know the truth about his own evil, sinful lifestyle. Repent, Frankie, repent. Become a true Christian.

    • Mark

      Won’t ever happen. He worships the almighty dollar and fleecing his sheeple.

  • I’m sorry to ask this, but one of you fellas is gonna need to do the LGBT community a solid and give Franklin the thorough reaming he’s obviously been obsessed with receiving his entire post-puberty life.

    He really is totally obsessed with Teh Gay. So just be sure to take pictures and we should be done with him forever. #KTHXBAI

  • gaycuckhubby

    OT… I wonder what this is going to be about
    https://twitter.com/APBusiness/status/943961299536539648

    • Their sales tanked.

      • Gustav2

        Ooops.

      • Prost Seattle

        That wasn’t pepperoni.

    • HZ81

      He molested an extra large cheese & sausage.

      (No really. Their pizza sucks. )

      • Prost Seattle

        That would improve their flavor.

        I have an idea. If someone wants to make their living with pizza, you should at least have had 10 pizzas in Naples so you know how they are supposed to taste. HINT: It isn’t wonderbread with ketchup and spam and shredded velveeta

        • HZ81

          I can’t say I’ve had pizza in Naples, but have plenty of Italians in the fam. And they cook. Plus, Chicago is my hometown, so even if you don’t like that thick tomato cake slice, there is plenty to great pizza to choose from.

          But true story—PJ’s are open late and one drunken night I went for it. I ordered a pie and cheese garlic bread or something—couldn’t tell them apart visually. As a native, I am ashamed of myself.

        • clay

          Being counter-suggestible, I now want to come up with a (good) recipe including “spam and shredded velvets.”

        • Snarkaholic

          Here in A.C., it’s CARDBOARD and ketchup.

        • Craig Howell

          Aren’t pizzas strictly an invention of the Italian immigrant community right here?

          • Palmer

            No, pizzas l, as we know them, were first baked in Naples. But a flat bread, cooked in an oven is known to have been common in Pharonic Egypt, then the Greeks and Romans started topping flat bread with olive oil.

            Then in the late 1800s Raffaele Esposito created the first modern pizza, Pizza Margherite, for King Umberto I and his wife, Margherite, when the king visited Naples.

      • Todd20036

        The only place I’ll get pizza is when it’s made with organic ingredients, etc.

        It’ll be more expensive, but it’s delicious.

        You buy cheap, you get cheap

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      This sure didn’t help:
      White supremacists want to make Papa John’s the official pizza of the alt-right
      https://thegrio.com/2017/11/04/white-supremacists-want-to-make-papa-johns-the-official-pizza-of-the-alt-right/

      • Todd20036

        Yup. It’s not like Papa John was some pro-Jewish, pro LBGT pizza place before the Nazis wanted in

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Wants to spend more time with his real estate investment trusts.

    • Ninja0980

      I guess there were more customers that didn’t like buying pizza from a right wing Koch whore then not.

    • m_lp_ql_m

      His most recent facelift didn’t go so well I guess.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Stock price has been tanking all year. Down from ~ $90 to $59 now.
      Unhappy shareholders.

    • Six Pins Delores

      YAY! He is a a poc like his pizza

    • Bambino

      Pizza still taste like shit though.

      • m_lp_ql_m

        Hence the name, Papa John‘s.

        • bkmn

          Papa John’s Asswipe Pizza – better bullshit, bitter loser.

    • peacfulseas inWA

      Won’t change the taste of their shitty thing they pass off as a pizza. He cried he’d have to raise the price of his shitty thing they pass off as a pizza by .14 cents if required to offer heath insurance for his employees. Make your own. It’s easy, fun as a group but please no pineapple.

    • bkmn

      My guess is his shareholders didn’t appreciate him damaging the brand, performing actions that decreased sales and drove down profits.

    • clay

      Well, there’s that new investigation into a racist conspiracy with one of the team owners to unseat the Commissioner, so he’ll still be getting air time.

    • popebuck1

      He’s still going to stay on as chairman of the board, though. It amounts to “stop appearing in the commercials and making public pronouncements, and maybe they’ll all think you left.”

  • HZ81

    Says a man who believes a man lived in a whale, magical bushes and has a sky friend. Fuck you My queerness is real—more so than that bullshit.

    • Prost Seattle

      No no no! The burning Bush was in a historical STD clinic. It just got transcribed incorrectly.

  • Phil

    Uh, just who is hating on who? I don’t see any lgbt people lashing out at all christians just assholes like Graham…..

  • Gustav2

    I really don’t give a shit if he hates us or not.

    We are citizens, so get over it.

    • JW Swift

      Exactly. In a free society, where there is supposed to be “liberty and justice for all”, and under a Constitution that mandates separation of Church and State, you don’t get to go around telling other people how to live their lives. (Well, technically, you do have the right to say it, but you don’t have any lawful way of enforcing it.)

  • Lumpy Gaga

    O/T: Resist.

    Two Philadelphia activists swept up in clashes with police during
    last year’s protests of President Trump’s inauguration, along with four
    co-defendants, were found not guilty Thursday on all charges relating to
    the rioting.

    Jennifer Armento, 38, and Oliver Harris, 28, had been charged with
    serious federal crimes for destruction of property and rioting even
    though they were not accused of specific acts of violence during the
    chaos in downtown Washington last January 20, just blocks from the White
    House. They and their co-defendants faced the possibility of decades in
    prison.

    The acquittal, which came after a four-week trial in District of
    Columbia Superior Court, could affect prosecution decisions for nearly
    200 more people awaiting trials on largely the same charges, including
    several more from Philadelphia.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/jennifer-armento-oliver-harris-trump-protests-rioting-20171221.html

    • Saw a report go by earlier, one of the jurors (anonymously) commenting that as soon as they heard the prosecution’s case summary, they just about unanimously decided right then there was no way they were going to vote to convict. Even if the defense counsel said not a word.

      I mean, they were trying to convict *everybody* the police kettled, even though the cops had no evidence anybody they arrested had actually committed any acts of vandalism. It was obviously Trump’s corrupt fascist DoJ trying to make an example of dissenters and to quash the 1st Amendment. And fortunately the jurors saw that immediately.

      • bkmn

        Just more of Sessy’s DOJ, the same department that repeatedly tried to prosecute a woman who laughed during his confirmation hearings.

    • Mark_in_MN

      Good! But the cases should never have been allowed to even go to trial in the first place.

  • JCF
  • Judas Peckerwood

    “Why can’t Christians have the freedom to say ‘No’ to what they want to say no to?”

    This from a guy who screams “GENOCIDE!!!!” when somebody says “Happy Holidays”.

  • Adam Stevens

    The last thing I am looking for is acceptance from anyone, especially those too stupid to realize they’ve been duped into a wasted lifetime worshiping a nothing.

    Christians most definitely need not apply.

  • Bambino

    Says the guy who endorse the pedophile/rapist in Alabama for a senate seat.

  • edrex

    and i want them to know that your interpretation is both wrong and patently anti-christian.

  • Jamie_Johnson

    Why can’t gays have the freedom to say “No!” to discrimination, Franklin?

  • m_lp_ql_m

    That’s right, take it up with Him, not us.

  • John Ruff

    What a piece of garbage. He’s done nothing for anyone but himself. He’s nothing but waste and disappointment. The world is getting smaller which it makes it hard for people like him to stay relevant. Mother fucker.

  • Sam_Handwich

    o/t

    a former CIA director joined twitter today!

    https://twitter.com/JohnBrennan/status/943950252062707713

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      And such a perfect zinger to open with!
      Keep ’em coming Mr. Brennan!

    • whollyfool

      Thank you. Following.

    • Gustav2

      He should tell us what he really thinks. /s

    • William

      Damn!

    • Menergy

      Right on.!

    • Nowhereman

      Well, he IS a narcissistic, vengeful autocrat, so there’s that…

  • killreligion

    Fuck off. Bakers choose to bake in our society with secular rules. What a screed of lies. Government makes the rules. They are laws not sins. Made up gods have no bearing on them.

    • LeeCMH

      Especially when the Christian hatred is encouraged by government, but the judge us some made-up guy in the sky.

      I am reminded of the prosperity preachers. Oh, you didn’t get your blessing? You’ll have to take that up the the lorda. We just took your money, but God decides

      What about the faith healers. Oh, your didn’t get healing. Darn. You didn’t believe enough.

  • Bambino

    I Don’t Hate The Preachers, I Just Want Them To Know The Truth About Their Evil Sinful Lifestyle Of Scamming and Lying.

  • LeeCMH

    So when gays are denied commercial services, because they are gay, they should take it up with God?

    So you are the enforcer, but for appeal, we have to go to some imaginary deity.

  • JackFknTwist

    It is c unts like this who are destroying a peaceful and progressive society…..
    and he hasn’t done a day’s work in his life.

  • Ben in Oakland

    I don’t hate you, Franklin. I just hate your corrupt money grubbing, power mongering, trump supporting, opposing-our-participation-in-society, ways.

  • Cuberly Deux

    My desire to force a bigot to accept or even like me is exactly zero. He’s spun his grift into the same toxic bs Matt Barber does. That you can’t be a christian if you are accepting of an LGBT individual.

    We don’t need you Frank.

  • Dale Snyder

    1) You do hate gays and

    2) If you do not give your wealth to the poor you will never see the kingdom of heaven and

    3) go fuck yourself.

  • leastyebejudged

    Lying about what the Bible IS and about what’s in the Bible is what Christians do best !

    • Cuberly Deux

      They’re first and foremost a political entity. He’s got Trump’s ear, that’s all that matters to ole grifter Frank.

    • LeeCMH

      Lying about the Bible is fiction on top of fiction.

      • leastyebejudged

        Actually, there are scholars that have worked hard to document and trace origins of the Bible, so no, dismissing everything as mere fiction is typical anti-philosophical idiocy.

  • hdtex
    • leastyebejudged

      jesus christ

  • Of course I don’t hate Christians, I love them and want them to know the truth, that if they don’t bring balance to the Force, they will spend an eternity in bowels of the Sarlacc pit.

  • Professor Barnhardt
    • Lumpy Gaga

      That kid is not spun rite.

    • edrex

      BEST RESPONSES:

      Maybe one of her parents died in the war on Christmas.

      I’m not sure if you’re joking but I seriously hope not. I lost my entire platoon at the Battle of Advent Calendars. I lost vision in one eye from candy cane shrapnel.

      Those were dark times.

  • Kelly Lape

    Mr. Graham, your God may define homosexuality as a sin. I won’t dispute your interpretation of God or God’s message. However, as an American I have the right to worship God as I see fit. To interpret Her message as I understand it.

    Mr. Graham I believe that judging others as God Clearly admonishes against in the book of Mathew is a grave sin. However since you’re an American I won’t question your right to sin as you see fit.

  • josephsinger

    Frannie is a closet homersectional but she won’t admit it.

  • Natty Enquirer

    Did you know most Christians were recruited into the lifestyle as young children? Of course, they have the freedom to continue if they wish, but that doesn’t give them the right to tell us what to believe or participate in.

  • bkmn

    The only thing Fraudlin knows about the gay lifestyle is that he rakes in tons of money by talking about it.

    • LeeCMH

      Absolutely It is the Christian-Hatred complex. Just a money making exercise. Just like prosperity preachers and faith healers.

    • clay

      Oh, now, he knows he contributes to (and influences) the GOP by talking about it, too.

  • Grumpy Old Man

    Wearing garments of mixed fibres is a death penalty offense, Dickwad – why aren’t you dead yet. Mixing dairy and anything else is up there too. You pick and choose what you harangue about depending on what is easy for you.

    • Bad Tom

      And it turns out that “deciding” to not be gay is really, really, really, impossible.

  • Lazycrockett
    • PickyPecker

      SEE! SEE! dRUMPf didn’t NEED to spend the allotted ad budget to get people to sign up. #SAVINGMONEY#MAGA /s

  • bkmn
    • William

      Let me shake the present and try to guess what it is.

  • djcoastermark

    Well frankie, you have your opinion, and yes we realize no one’s going to change it. Goody for you. Now leave us alone, and surprise, we’ll leave you alone too.

  • margaretpoa

    Nobody is asking you to be gay, Frank. Nobody is asking Cathy Miller to be gay. But if you operate a business, then you can’t arbitrarily decide that you’re not going to serve some group or groups of people just because you disapprove of our existence.
    One more thing: Please point to the commandment that says “Thous shalt not be teh gay” because Leviticus isn’t god.

    • William

      The Christians chucked Leviticus out the limo window two thousand years ago. They always forget that when gays are around.

      • clay

        “Do not call anything in God’s creation ‘unclean’.”
        At least Peter got the message on the third try.

  • Boreal

    OT:
    Nice local beer for happy hour tonight.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2oCj6QWgAAzZzg.jpg

    • bkmn

      Do they use schmaltz in the beer?

      • Boreal

        No, no they do not. That goes in soup.

  • Mrs. Councillor Nugent
  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Not gonna lie Franklin, I hate you…I really, truly do.

    https://twitter.com/sirlthr69/status/943968443778387969

  • j.martindale

    Who cares what this insignificant, superstitious bigot thinks of us? I don’t.

    • William

      He doesn’t actually believe his bullshit, it’s performance art.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Craig Howell

      I can’t imagine any jury here in DC convicting anybody on the basis of the DOJ’s absurdly weak case. Hope they’ll dismiss the equally flimsy charges against the 200 or so others pronto.

      • John30013

        I hope the DOJ will have to pay a price for their egregious abuse of power and absurd malicious prosecution.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Totes O/T ….aaand the rest of the prezzies are wrapped and under the smaller tree (big one is full up). No tape, just paper and ribbon, old school Victorian style. It’s all about the presentation 😉

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/605a9a6bc21d63974ac6d3c51b3199f4af3194eb55870ae8384d2ffdb7dc8b5b.jpg

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e559b07998f2a0c4de0f4c8037ba29069730991b97ad819b62a26b23f1686759.jpg

    Yes, that my Doctor Who ornament, don’t judge me 🙂

    • clay
    • ChrisInKansas

      I wrapped the rest of my gifts this afternoon, as well. I am not, however, posting a photo of them, as apparently there are two types of the gay gene, and I did not get yours. 😛

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Hahahahaha. Well, to be fair, it didn’t come by it naturally. My mother and Grandmother were both intense wrappers, scarily so at times. I picked up the tricks from them, surprisingly simple but the results do speak for themselves.

    • Steve Smith

      Anyone else here who, like me, has stopped buying gifts? I keep open house over the holidays, plenty to eat and drink, all welcome. But I have a serious shopping allergy, so no gifts in my house!

    • Keroleen

      Lovely wrapping and adorable ornaments – bonus points!

    • Lizard

      Those look incredible! I bow to your Christmas expertise, because I use rolls of tape and they look nowhere that good. :S

  • Lazycrockett
  • Sam_Handwich
  • bkmn

    When/if Dems get back in power I hope they task the IRS with investigating each and every fraud pastor that backs Trump for tax evasion.

  • Jerry Hinnant

    Then it should be up to God whether we get a cake, not you or your ilk. When he says we don’t get a cake then I will accept that. Now show us in the bible where he says it.

  • rednekokie

    I’m not particularly interested in attempting to get anyone to accept my orientation (it’s not a lifestyle, it’s the way I was born) — but I am very interested in preventing self-appointed do-gooders (for whatever reason) from interfering with my orientation.
    I don’t give a hang about theirs — and they have no business butting into mine.

  • ChrisInKansas

    For fuck’s sake, dude, we know your “truth”. You haven’t shut up about it for decades. We’re just smart enough to not fall for your bullshit. And it KILLS you that we don’t care, doesn’t it?

    • William

      Be nice and send him money.

      • ChrisInKansas

        No. I am not a dementia-ridden 80 year old (yet).

      • Bad Tom

        Can I send him a check with a negative balance?
        ——-
        Shucks! Darn! Tarnation!

        • William

          Only if you send it postage due.

  • LeeCMH

    As with all deity religions, it is the followers who tell you what their gods say, or refer you to some writings supposedly written via “divine” inspiration.

    Joseph Smith had to go away for a long time so he could “receive” the holy word.

    Moses had to disappear on a mountain for 40 days AND 40 nights.

    I have these 15, oye, 10 commandents.

  • William

    Franklin, I abhor your evil grifting lifestyle.

  • Slippy_World
    • William

      The War on Christmas has gone intergalactic.

      • Bad Tom

        Dalek does not care for Christmas Trees.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Dalek be woke.

      • William

        Green is not his color.

    • perversatile

      Call me old fashioned, but I prefer the more
      traditional Spinning Christmas Tree of Death
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXbJWd21W00

  • clay

    My lifestyle– east coast urban intellectual
    My sexual orientation– bisexual
    My sexual identity– queer
    My sexual preference– top, standing
    My gender expression– masculine
    My sex– male

    Wow, my “lifestyle” is “which of these is not like the others?”

    • Rebecca Gardner

      My lifestyle — NY transplant chillin’ in SF and loving what CA has to offer.
      My sexual orientation — bisexual
      My sexual identity — Kinky As Fuck!
      My sexual preference — slave, bottom, object.
      My gender expression — feminine.
      My sex — female.

  • Frostbite

    I don’t hate Christofascists. I just want them to know about their evil, sinful, hypocritical lifestyle.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Being LGBT isn’t a “lifestyle.” Being LGBT is how we are born.
    Being a believer in a book of fairy tales and a magical sky daddy is a lifestyle.

  • clay

    “God calls homosexuality sin”

    Where does God call cake part of the marriage?

    • LeeCMH

      The taxi shows up, telling the driver where and adding, “we are going to a gay wedding.”

      Cabbie: Oh, no, I cannot participate in that sinful lifestyle, get out.

  • I used to post my dissent on Franklin Graham’s Facebook page … until I was banned.

  • LeeCMH

    The hateful Christians depend on the operative word, “choose.”

    They never have an answer to, “Well, when did you choose to be straight?”

    • clay

      … and it’s fun to watch them squirm.

    • Natty Enquirer

      “I didn’t have to choose. God made me that way, just like he made you that way. You are the one who chose to have naughty sex.”
      “But there is no God.”
      “Yes there is.”
      Fin

  • joe ho

    Your daily reminder that religion is a mental disorder. A pre-scientific way to understand the world and ward off death anxieties. No longer necessary. Even the “nice” Christians are playing make-believe.

  • glass
  • joe ho

    Love the Christian, but hate the Christianity.

  • GanymedeRenard

    If you choose to believe in absurdities and make a lifestyle out of those beliefs, fine and dandy. But I won’t give you a free pass to let your lifestyle dictate what rights I have or have not because of my in-born, objective, verifiable and innocuous characteristics. Enough!

  • Kevin Andrews

    This sick Christ-O-Fascist snake-oil salesman is as disgusting a Missionary of Hate as ever came down the pike.
    Delusion, demented and a latent homosexual who hates himself.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/54cea54fd5194da4537487ff7d7efebe28e29fb861254d576cbf9f16128d9636.png

    • Todd20036

      *cough* Kim Davis *cough*

  • shellback

    Franklin, I don’t hate you. Oh, fuck it. Yes I do. I really, really hate you AND your kind.

    • DreadPikathulhu

      I am so sick of this sanctimonious arguement. They’ll smile while they shove the knife in your back.

  • MikeBx2

    Franklin Graham told people to support a child molester. Never listen to Franklin Graham.

  • Graham is a prime example of the arrogance and self-absorption that is part and parcel of certain brands of “Christianity,” espoused by those who, if they’ve ever read the Gospels, certainly didn’t understand them.

    • Natty Enquirer

      More product than example. Graham, Inc. is all about courting the money and parroting whatever it is they want to hear.

    • joe ho

      He understands the Gospels all too well. More often than any other character in the Bible, Jesus threatens people with an eternal suffering in a lake of fire if they don’t follow him. Jesus was a colossal dickhead. Most people only read the “pretty” parts.

  • Hornbori
  • MikeBx2

    The man who makes millions telling people what they have to believe says no one should tell him what he has to believe.

    • R W C

      Graham’s estimated net worth, not including real estate, is in excess of $25 million.

  • Philly Mike

    Well sister graham it seems as if “christains” & repiglicans are majority of people touching and raping underage individuals. I will stay with my tribe, Bye Grahamenfuck!

  • Sleeper Girl

    I walk past that bakery regularly. In the parking lot, they posted signs saying “Tastries, putting Christ back into Christmas.”

    I don’t normally go out of my way to have conflict with people, but I do sometimes imagine myself walking in and saying, “I’ll respect your right to follow your conscience if you say, and truly mean, that you’ll respect the rights of same-sex couples to marry, and respect my right to live as I see fit, too.”

    I immediately think “what’s the point,” since we all know that their idea of “freedom of conscience” is a one way street — they fancy themselves being entitled to respect from the rest of us, and that we should bend over backward and step aside for their every religious whim, yet they feel no similar Golden Rule-ish moral obligation to return the same sort of respect and consideration for others.

    I wonder if this baker stood up for the freedom of conscience of churches and spiritual groups who perform and recognize same-sex marriages?

    I suspect not.

    • Natty Enquirer

      What someone really needs to do is walk in and ask them to bake a cake for their Wiccan sabat. Just some roses and “Blessed Be!” Or up the stakes and bake a “Satan is LORD” cake for a black mass. Now whose “religious freedom” are we talking about?

      • Friday

        Do try to be careful about commingling Wiccans and Satanists in a sentence like that. And in my experience Christians don’t recognize a ‘Blessed Be’ for a Wiccan phrase, …a number of Christians used to use the same phrasing back when that was just how people talked. 🙂 (And the hypothetical Satanic cake actually would be pretty blatantly coerced religious speech anyway, in ways basically no one would argue against. They can’t force others to proclaim their God as ‘the Lord’ either. 🙂 )

    • 2patricius2

      I have no problems with Franklin Graham having his beliefs. And he can say what he believes. But that is not where he ends things. He attempts to restrict my rights and to impose his beliefs into law. Up with that I will not put.

      And as far as his “God calls homosexuality a sin,” schtick…That is baloney. He may believe his god calls homosexuality a sin, but that is just his belief. He has no proof that any god exists, much less says that. He has only words in a book, no proof. His beliefs about a god and what that god is saying do not trump my rights to be treated equally in this civil society supposedly based on rights and laws, not fantasies.

    • netxtown

      Stop somewhere along the way and pick up a couple bags of dicks. Then visit their store – and conveniently leave the bags on a shelf in full view…

    • Steve Smith

      Probably more effective just to spray paint dicks on the shop windows. Every night.

  • witch

    Sounds like HATE to me

  • Jmdintpa

    Old ass white nationalist says what???

  • Karl Dubhe 2

    Franklin Graham’s idea of paradise is an eternal church service.

    What more needs to be said about him?

    • Cattleya1

      Not the whole service – just the passing of the collection plate.

  • Jerry Kott

    Why does this delusional fuck think that I and others give a shit why he struggles with Homosexuality. It is his struggle, not mine.

  • Michael R
    • Todd20036

      depends on the ghost…

  • David Raymore

    I sent a message to this huckster on Facebook. I said “Go fuck yourself, Franklin. You are nothing but a bigot who justifies it using your mythical religion.”
    I think now I will be blocked by him, but I don’t care he deserves being called a bigot. What a fucking asshole.

  • superindy

    So if you are a “christian” ambulance attendant, or a “christian” firefighter, or a “christian” bank teller etc., are you allowed to deny services because of your religion? Providing service to someone has nothing to do with your religious freedom you total douche.

  • joe ho

    The major religions arose in a pre-scientific era. Their conclusions about life are hit and miss. About human sexuality it’s mostly miss. We have better ways of thinking about life and the universe. That’s why religion continues to decline at an accelerating rate in the industrialized West.

  • SFBruce

    “As a Christian of course I don’t hate gays…”

    I just want them to stop doing the stuff that, you know, makes them gay.

  • EdA

    God’s son had a lot to say about filthy rich bible thumpers — not much of it positive — but I don’t go around trying to tell this pool of Santorum, or the Crouches, or Joel Osteen, or the other hatemongering televangelists to abandon their evil sinful lifestyles.

  • Gregory Peterson

    Hey, your grandfather, Dr. L. Nelson Bell, said that “race mixing” was a sin Acts 17:26 blah blah blah.

    Some family traditions really should be stopped.

  • AtticusP

    I don’t hate religious people.

    I just want them to know that their beliefs are delusional.

  • ceeenbee

    I don’t hate frankie and and his whole scam artist klan family. I just want him and his evil, fake christian cabal to fuck off.

  • Rocco

    If anyone would know about an evil sinful lifestyle, it would be Junior. Disgusting POS.

  • carrot festival

    I’m not into scat but I’ll gladly shit in this mans mouth.

    • Reality.Bites

      Easy to hit a target that big even if you’ve never done it before.

  • popebuck1

    Stop loving us so much.

  • justmeeeee

    Same to you, Frank.

  • Galvestonian

    Hey Rev. — I could tell you a lot about your evil, sinful, bull puckey lifestyle too.

  • Friday’s_cat

    When are Nutbars4Jesus going to sue employers for having to work Sunday.

    • Reality.Bites

      As soon as they stop going to restaurants on Sundays after church and watching NASCAR on Sundays.

  • Friday

    Uh, no, preacher-man, ‘religious freedom’ does *not* entitle you to *even* have a say in someone else’s *lifestyle,* never mind *reduce* minorities you hate to some ‘lifestyle’ you made up in your hate-propaganda in the first place.

  • kareemachan

    Think whatever you effing want. Just do not tell ME how I have to believe, okay?

  • northern_neighbour

    Cathy Baker: By refusing to serve a customer who is of some minority, when you serve all other comers, you are by definition hating on them and punishing them for being unlike yourself. Thus you ARE a HATER as well as breaking the law, … what you offer to one paying customer you BY LAW have to offer to any other paying customer. Nothing whatsoever to do with your “religious freedom” you can believe whatever, but your “religious freedom” does NOT include freedom, to discriminate against any member of society who seeks your remunerated public service.

    And by turning such clients away your are DISHONOURING YOUR OWN CHRIST, as the bible itself makes abundantly clear. But maybe you are HYSTERICAL, but again that does not give you a licence to hate people and judge and then discriminate. So if you are a HYSTERICAL CHRISTIAN, try to get over yourself.

    Franklin Graham: Your remark that you don’t Hate Gays is completely Cancelled Out by your following remarks about God defining gay love/sex whatever as Sin and implying thus that God hates gays and does not accept their “lifestyle” as you put it, and Christians don’t have to accept their lifestyle either, or bake a wedding cake for them. So actually you can’t have it both ways, saying that you don’t hate them, while discriminating against and denouncing them. The only way a Christian would “accept” gay life, is by having gay sex, not by accepting money from a Gay person for baking a cake.

    You are not going to their wedding, toasting them, or sharing a marriage bed or sex with them. You are merely baking a cake which you bake for everyone else and taking their lawful money. That is not tantamount to accepting their “lifestyle”. It is tantamount to following standard public business LAW, that prohibits ALL DISCRIMINATION as to who gets to receive service of what you offer to the public FULL STOP. If Christians DISCRIMINATE that is UNLAWFUL. And it is not “Love” for the gay customer, it is actually HATRED.

    Another point is that many Christians ARE LGBT, and you are HATING on them as well. GOD in point of fact never wrote any of the Bible, it was written by men who had their own weaknesses, prejudices and forms of Bronze Age bigotry. They may have written against same sex relationships, but GOD did not.

    In fact Jesus was reported to have said JUDGE NOT THAT YE BE NOT JUDGED.
    And we are told he accepted everyone, provided food and healing, which Evangelicals like yourself do not, and the party you support DOES NOT ACCEPT the poor, the immigrant, the sick, the woman, the gay person, the black person, the Asian person, the struggling single mom, the disabled worker or veteran, or any of the needy despited your much vaunted Samaritan’s Purse. Your GOP party is ripping all mercy and Christian support and health care away from ordinary Americans. FRANKLIN YOU ARE A SUPREME HYPOCRITE, AN ARROGANT HATER BUT IN NO WAY A DECENT CHRISTIAN. AND GOD HIMSELF WOULD DENOUNCE YOU BEFORE ALL MANKIND. And of course a multimillionaire who could not pass through the eye of a needle anymore than a camel could.

    #FALSE PROPHET Let the False Prophet WALLOW IN HIS OWN SHAME!

    • Lars Littlefield

      Well, you’ve sold me. Now you just have to convince Franklin.

  • Clive Johnson

    It’s a part of my personal belief system that the Christian fundamentalist and conservative lifestyle is wrong and goes against my values. Reason, science, and humanistic values abhor this lifestyle and I think an ethical society should work to overcome it.

    So, when two competing beliefs are in opposition, we must rely upon the neutrality of the law to settle disputes that might arise. I don’t get to carve out laws that I can follow and not follow, and neither does the conservative Christian or fundamentalist.

  • HappyDance904

    SIN: SUCK IT NOW!!!

  • rextrek1

    Ok Franklin – You Produce this Jesus / GOD Character to US Gays …in the FLESH…….and have him tell us to Our faces……..Otherwise STFU! Your ManMade Book Of BS written BY MEN…Means NOTHING in REALITY! remember Reality?

  • Max_1

    No where in Scripture does it say Jesus said, “follow me and you shall be free to sit in judgement of your brother.”

    In fact, Jesus said just the opposite.

    Evilgelicals cry… Cry to St. Peter that you should be allowed to NOT follow Jesus…
    Then cry some more when St. Peter says you are barking up the wrong gates…

  • Max_1

    I don’t hate evilgelicals…
    I just want them to understand that they’re deaf ears and blind eyes when they refuse to follow the commandment of their Christ.

  • Cackalaquiano

    “Typically with fundamentalists, if you take their words and simply switch every instance of “Christian” and “gay,” they’ll totally see how obnoxious they are and never ever attack us again ever.”

    — from the list of things that don’t work with fundies…

  • JWC

    At least gays don’t pack young Christian boys off to gay camps to Pray IN the Gay.We don’t stand out of churches and beat upthe church goers
    boys and call the “filthy Chrisrians We pay a good share of taxes which you do not So Franklin the hypocrite look to thine self

  • andrew

    I don’t hate scamvangelists like Franklin, I just want him to know the truth about his evil sinful lifestyle. He claims to follow Jesus who taught that his followers should sell everything that they possessed, give it to the poor and then follow him. Franklin disobediently doesn’t do that.

  • Girlgoon

    In other words he’s not preaching it’s just a public service announcement

  • Girlgoon

    I dont hate christians I just want them to know what hopeless bigots and hypocrites they are

  • DaveMiller135

    Franklin, you don’t need to accept my “lifestyle.” You just need to accept that we live in a country that has laws, which apply to all of us. At least in theory. Tell your congregation not to break the anti-discrimination laws. Acceptance of my “lifestyle” is entirely optional.

  • phhht

    I don’t hate Franklin. I just want him to know that there are no gods. His religious beliefs are nothing but delusions, so they cannot justify his sick bigotry.

  • Jay Silversmith

    “If they choose to live that lifestyle, they certainly
    have the freedom to do so in this country — but don’t tell me what I
    have to believe or participate in.”
    But yet, YOU want everybody to believe you and participate in your ideology. We’re not asking you to believe or participate in anything, you bigot.

  • 2guysnamedjoe

    If Christians choose to live that lifestyle, they certainly have the freedom to do so in this country — but don’t tell me I have to subsidize their tax breaks, or that I have to obey laws they’re allowed to flout.

    • Girlgoon

      The only proper way to be fair would be to have a gay church and reap the tax free benefits for all

      • Snarkaholic

        Name suggestion: The Joe-homos’ Witnesses.

  • Robert Conner

    “The LGBT community continues to target Christians to try to get us to accept their lifestyle.”

    I’ve known quite a number of Christians who accepted the “lifestyle” even without being specifically targeted. It’s almost like they’d been waiting for it all along!

  • FredDorner

    In other words: “I don’t hate gays, it’s my imaginary friend who hates gays.”

  • Halou

    “Why can’t Christians have the freedom to say ‘No’ to what they want to say no to?”

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/02-102.ZS.html

    That’s why.

    • Girlgoon

      We have taken away their freedom of speech since they can no longer say marriage is between a man and a woman

      • Gianni

        That’s still true so what is their problem? Besides, they can say whatever they want, and they do. They just want their beliefs to be the law of the land. They just can’t figure that that day has passed.

    • -M-

      Same reason Jews or Buddhists can’t say no to Christians. And why no one gets to quiz Franklin on whether his beliefs are consistent with their Christian values before he’s allowed to do business with their store or bank etc.

  • RationalismRules

    It’s not the sex that makes gays sinful, it’s all the mixing of fabrics.

    (Leviticus 19:19, if you’re wondering)

    • Mikey

      and shaving
      and cutting of hair
      and eating of shellfish
      and looking upon the holy book with imperfect eyes
      and growing two different crops in adjacent fields
      and it just goes on and on and on and on..

  • Dana Chilton

    Exactly.. 3rd Corinthians chapter 4 says “thou shalt not make a cake for thine neighbors gay wedding. And neither shall thou take ownership for thine evil actions but yeah blame the lord thy god. For thine is the oppressive, dictatorial, theocracy forever. Amen”

  • JW Swift

    Frankie, dear, please listen. We’ll lay it out for you one more time:

    You go right on thinking that we’re the filthiest people on the planet. It’s your right. It’s also your right to open your mouth and voice that opinion. You DON’T have the right, however, to put your opinions into discriminatory actions, nor do you get to try to enshrine your opinions about what is and isn’t “sin” into civil law.

    If and when I wish to join your church, then, and ONLY then, will I be subject to your religion’s rules. Otherwise, I don’t really care what you have to say.

  • Christopher

    “I don’t hate Franklin Graham, I just want him to jump into a woodchipper feet first.”

  • No More GOP.

    And I want people to know the truth about your fake “Christianity” you {some word strong enough to express my disgust with you, but that I can’t think of right now}

  • KnownDonorDad

    Something about a rich man and camels passing through the eye of a needle….

    • Canadian Observer

      …without the benefit of putting them through a blender first.

      • Mikey

        but that’s the FUN part!!!

        *whine*

      • Snarkaholic

        Or, in Franklin’s case, a Grindr.

  • xzargo

    Fuck you with the devil’s dick, Franklin Graham.

    • Robert

      I actually had a mental image ….rather disturbing. LOL.

  • Benji

    But didn’t Franklin endorse a President that committed adultery, lied, sexually assaulted girls and woman, fraud and numerously broke other commandments. Yet you endorse and turn a blind eye? Such hypocrites!

  • -M-

    Yet, he and his ilk cry and cry and cry when we do that. Another difference, he does hate us.

  • fuzzybits

    You don’t have the freedom to say anything? Hell,you never shut up.

  • Ann Kah

    Franklin, sweetie, you don’t want to hear the truth that I’d like to tell you about that imaginary deity that you’ve invented in your own image – and that makes god a really nasty, spiteful, judgmental son of a bitch. You don’t want to hear the truth from anybody else. Why do you think others would be interested in hearing your version of truth?

  • Old Top Kick

    Fuck that judgmental puta.

  • Robert Adams

    Me?

    Well, I don’t hate Evangelicals. I love them and want them to know the truth about their evil sinful lifestyle. If they choose to live that lifestyle, they certainly have the freedom to do so in this country — but don’t tell me what I have to believe or participate in.

    • Gianni

      It does work both ways, doesn’t it?

  • DumbHairyApe

    Going to church and preaching hate to others is a “lifestyle”. Being straight, bi or gay isn’t – anymore than being male, female, blue-eyed or red-haired is a “lifestyle”.

  • DumbHairyApe

    To paraphrase Jesus, it’s not what goes into your mouth that makes you unclean, it’s what comes out of it.

    • Gianni

      Oh, thank God for that! I’ll sleep easier now that I know and won’t feel guilty when next I dine on dick.

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    Well Franklin, I don’t approve of your life style. Your a grifter. You take the elderly to the cleaners for their money.

  • ‘Til Tuesday

    Rev. Fred Phelps of Westboro Baptist may be dead, but his heir apparent is alive and kicking.

  • SDG

    I Don’t Hate Christians, I Just Want Them To Know The Truth About Their Evil Sinful Lifestyle

  • Richard B

    Franklin Graham is the ne’er-do-well son of the famous preacher Billy Graham. This recovering cocaine addict walks in his father’s shadow and fancy’s himself as a moral authority. – another Roy Moore without the pedophilia, but with the face of a sourpuss alcoholic. Empowered by his father’s multimillion dollar fortune, he masks his bigotries by condemning gay folks in the name of god. The fact is, he is just another fucking greedy republican and is part of that hypocritical evangelical crowd that empowers Trump, but never lose sight , Franklin Graham is nothing more than another pious evangelical grifter with a highly over rated opinion of his own self importance.

  • Gianni

    I love the sanctimonious Christian double-speak: …”I don’t hate gays…” (he left out the next part) …I just can’t stand anything about them and would rather they all just disappeared from the planet so that we, the godly ones, can have it all our own way and make everyone else obey us and subscribe to our beliefs. That’s all, so what’s the problem? I’m all about “truth” and desperately want them to know it! Franklin, why don’t you stop the bullshit. I know of no ‘gay community’ that gives a rat’s ass about whether you ‘too good to be true’ Christians accept our ‘lifestyle’ or not. Besides, it’s not our lifestyle that rubs you all so wrong, it’s really US that riles you fucking bastards because most of us just don’t give a shit what your Bobble says about us and the death we deserve. ….Try minding your own fucking business. It’s been your kind that started this thing, we just decided that we’d had enough of being pushed around by you and yours.
    “The courts should never be able to force Christians to go against what the Word of God teaches.”- Franklin Graham.
    Wait, the word of God teaches that Christian bakers shall not bake cakes for gay people? Huh? Franklin, pray for brains, please.

    • Franklin is lying about what the Bible says and what Jesus told us to do. Lying is a sin. Blasphemy is a sin. Franklin may burn brightly brightly.

      Romans 13:5-7 You should, therefore, obey the authorities, not simply because it is the safest, but because it is the right thing to do. It is right, too, for you to pay taxes for the civil authorities are appointed by God for the good purposes of public order and well-being. Give everyone his legitimate due, whether it be rates, or taxes, or reverence, or respect!

  • ‘Take it up with Him if you don’t like it.
    He is the one who defines sin, not me. ‘

    ‘…Don’t tell me what I have to believe or participate in.’

    This fucking idiot cannot even hear what he’s saying.

  • aagold76 .

    He lost ALL moral authority when he backed a child molester for Senate!

  • geoffalnutt
  • SilasMarner

    I Don’t Hate Christians, I Just Want Them To Know The Truth About Their Evil Sinful Lifestyle

  • Robert

    There is no one individual I despise and detest more than this sorry excuse of a man. Not Trump. Not Pence….Brian Brown, Tony Perkins. Perhaps his sister. They are both losers in the first degree.

    We will not take it up with God… we will take it to the SCOTUS.

    You do not love gays you POS or you would shut your mouth with the constant insults and admonishments of how YOU think we should live our lives. Nobody gives a shit what you think. It is not our problem if you are carried away with the idolatrous cult of bible worship where you have taken a book of mere human writings and turned it into God. We could advise you to give up that graven image, but we don’t out of respect for your right to believe as you wish.

    Nobody has ever told you what you have to believe or participate in. Ever. But if you own a business and are open to the public and have received a business license you are going to serve everyone equally. At least if the SCOTUS does it’s job. And if you can’t then you will simply have to shut down and find a new line of work. And I won’t care one iota if it is burdensome to you. Nobody with half a brain believes that baking a cake is a religious rite or ritual or that it affects your beliefs, faith or ability to participate your church one bit.

    Nobody cares if Christians accept gays or not. You miss the point entirely, as expected. We intend to insure the laws protect our right to live openly and with dignity (which includes transactions at businesses open to the public). We care what the government rules. Not what you think. And btw, there are many Christian groups and churches that do not agree with you and have opened their hearts and arms to us with full membership rights. You do not represent Christianity to me, and it is clear you do not speak for Christians as a whole, so stop pretending you do, you wanna-be prophet.

  • ColdCountry

    Feel the love!

  • As always, watch out for that Christian love. It’s often indistinguishable from hate.

  • Nowhereman

    No, see it is YOU who is trying to force your lifestyle on others. And god was invented by people like you just to control others and steal their money. So go away and STFU.

  • Katrina Turner

    evil is someone who cant control somebody else lifestyle

  • Tor

    Why some of my best friends are gay, and we have a Jewish lawyer!!

  • Thorn Spike

    I don’t give a fat fundagelican grifter rat’s ass what Franklin Graham thinks. About anything.

    That is all.

  • Okay, Frankie. I’m happy to take this topic up with your god. I’m free most of next week. Say, noonish Tuesday or Wednesday? We’ll have a kiki!

  • infmom

    God also says that wearing clothing made out of two kinds of fiber is a sin, and not following the rules of kashrut is a sin, and…. well, just start reading them there laws and see how many you have to get through before God got around to anything to do with sex.

    But then again that would require actually reading the Bible and you know the people who go around thumping it ain’t a-gonna do THAT.

  • Dennis Allred

    I agree. Just as the courts should not have the right to tell a man how many wives he can have. And men should be allowed to beat those wives, too, with impunity. Yeah, Franklin, lets turn the clock back 100 years to those good ole Christian God-fearing days.

  • I could give a rat’s @ss if you “accept” our “sinful lifestyle”. I’d prefer you don’t. Just want you to quit reminding us hourly of your judgment. Just accept we are going to your h3ll and shut up. Your “judgment” is causing immense psychological and emotional harm to millions of LGBTQ people, some of which aren’t strong enough to survive. Their d3aths and blood are on your hands. If you were a true man of god and christ, you’d only lift up – not put down those that need love and not hate.