Samsung Rips Apple Fanboys In New Ad [VIDEO]

Mashable reports:

Blink and you might just miss this easter egg, but it’s a gem. Samsung’s latest ad follows an avid iPhone user who eventually decides to switch sides after ten years.

The minute-long ad manages to majorly throw shade at the iPhone, highlighting all the criticisms it’s faced over the years: its lack of stylus, non-waterproof phones, and of course, the dongles.

But the real dig is when the man is shown walking past a line of people queueing up for the new iPhone X. If you look closely, one guy in the queue spots a haircut shaped like the iPhone X’s infamous notch.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Not fussed either way when it comes to phones, but yeah, this ad is pretty brutal.

  • Bambino

    Samsung is just asking Apple to reply in kind with its explosive Galaxy Note 7.

    • TheManicMechanic

      Apple has to be careful, since Samsung makes several major parts used in the X and other models.

      • I was amazed at the commonality actually. So much of the hardware is the same.

      • Reality.Bites

        And Samsung makes far more profit from that than they do from their phones.

        But Apple can’t go after them in advertising because they position themselves as a premium product. Those “I’m a Mac, and I’m a PC” wouldn’t run now.

        I would guess that most iPhone users couldn’t care less what features are on the latest Android phones. When you’ve invested heavily enough in a system – and I speak more of effort and time than financial expenditures – it takes more than a cool feature or two to make you switch.

        • stuckinthewoods

          I can only imagine. I had enough trouble going from button fly jeans to zippers.

        • TheManicMechanic

          I’m sure more than a few folks will be swayed solely by being able to become a talking poo animoji.

  • Blake J Butler
    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Oh, that’s going to give a certain someone some aches and pains….good.

    • Lazycrockett

      Everytime any obamacare related info comes over my twitter feed it gets a retweet.

    • zhera

      Wonderful!

    • SoCalGal20

      Excellent!

    • Cackalaquiano

      This is tremendous!

    • Gustav2

      This a big fucking deal!

    • Ross
      • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

        Trump: Ahahahahahaha!!! The joke’s on Obama. They’re already dead!

      • DaddyRay

        One of them is a person on my bowling team who never admitted to being a Republican but bashed Obama all the time and also bashed Obamacare. Well her healthcare policy went up from $1,100 a month to $1,200 and finally took the advice to look into Obamacare. Well now she is excited that her premiums are $588 per month and the deductible is lower than on her other plan.

        She could have been saving this kind of money for couple of years but her secret hatred for the Black President prevented her from even looking into it.

        • bkmn

          Be sure to remind her of this often. And ask her what she would have done with all the money she would have saved.

          • DaddyRay

            Oh we certainly plan on it every chance we get

          • Keiffer

            buy an iPhone?

        • FAEN

          But she still bashes Obamacare?

          • DaddyRay

            She called it handouts

          • FAEN

            Which she’s happy to take. What an asshole.

          • DaddyRay

            She was contemplating going without insurance for 2 years until she was able to sign up for Medicare but had breast cancer last year and we said that was a really stupid idea

          • RemusL

            You should remind her that the new Republican budget will slash funds to Medicare.

          • Todd20036

            Tell her then so is medical insurance in general.

            You have shitty friends.

          • William

            Remember, she’s not on Obamacare, she has the ACA. Wait for that excuse.

        • zhera

          She won’t stop hating the Black President, though. She’ll decide she’s entitled to affordable care but those lazy people who look different from her are not entitled.

          There’s no reasoning with hate.

          • DaddyRay

            Nope there isn’t any reasoning with them but it sure is fun to mock them

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          • Tom Furgas

            A-fucking MEN, zhera!

          • Steverino

            And she’ll bash him for going golfing after Katrina.

          • zhera

            And ask what he was doing to prevent 9/11.

        • Nic Peterson

          Thanks Obama!

        • mark99k

          Don’t assume she’s become enlightened. Odds are she’ll find a way to thank Trump for it.

      • JCF
        • Chris Bone

          That was the enrollment period for last year. People have only half as long to enroll this year ( until the middle of December instead of all the way through January

          • JCF

            My bad! Didn’t check my Google image closely. I’ll replace it…

    • Nunya D. Bidness

      Waaaaaaaaay off topic.

  • Samsung can’t compete with the iPhone X which is years ahead of the Galaxy and their OS is full of security holes so this is all they can do.

    • Scott MB

      iPhone OS is so secure anyone can unlock it by pointing at your face, yup that is secure.

      • seant426

        Like when you’re asleep, you mean? I can’t imagine ANY other scenario THAT would happen. 😂

        • Smithbc

          Also, if you’re asleep, it won’t unlock, because your eyes have to be open to unlock the phone.

          • seant426

            What if you have an eye patch like One-Eyed Willie? Or you’re incognito like Inspector Clouseau? 😂

      • Smithbc

        When would somebody have your phone and be pointing it at you to unlock it without your permission?

        • TheManicMechanic

          Law enforcement, border police, thieves assaulting people for their phones to unlock them, etc.

          • Smithbc

            Could these same people not force you to put your thumb on a phone just as easily as force you to look at the camera of your phone?

          • Smithbc

            Or force you to enter a passcode?

          • Lumpy Gaga
          • TheManicMechanic

            There is a legal difference between a biometric passcode (face, fingerprint, retina, etc) and a PIN or password. The latter falls under self incrimination where biometrics are physical artifacts. It is similar to being asked to surrender a key to unlock a door or similar versus giving up the combination to a lock. Law enforcement can compel someone to surrender a fingerprint to unlock a phone, or hold the phone in front of a person to use a face to unlock one of the new iPhones. They cannot so easily make you surrender a password or PIN without legal repercussions.

          • Smithbc

            Right. So no different than the fingerprint scanners now ubiquitous on higher end phones. My point exactly.

          • TheManicMechanic

            You don’t have to use the fingerprint scanners on the phones, it’s best to not enroll any of your fingerprints into the system at all, it’s done for convenience anyway, and not security enhancement.

    • Do Something Nice

      Did I see you in line in the video?

    • Brian

      I have neither .. but your comment is pretty ridiculous on its face when the iPhone big features for 2017 are things that the Samsung has had for years.

    • Oh boy, Samsung Fanboy bots below!

  • Leo

    Samsung CEO arrested, battery explodes. Apple uses Samsung parts. Even.

    These fanboy wars crack me up.

  • bkmn

    I can’t feel too sorry for someone who pays over $1000 for a phone that breaks when dropped three feet.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      It’s almost Karmic

    • zhera

      I like Nokia phones. They are made to last.

      • Reality.Bites

        Unlike the company.

        • zhera

          🙁

      • Dazzer

        Nokias are the absolute best.

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          Therein lay their demise.

          • Dazzer

            I thought the people who work for Nokia in Finland had bought back the company from Microsoft?

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            They have, but it’s not the Nokia it was as of this writing. I still have hope though.

  • NZArtist

    Yeah, so the new iPhone is waterproof, and it has pressure-sensitivity with finger touch on the screen so a stylus (that thing that you lose, gets stuck in the phone, wears out the tip, or gets broken…) isn’t necessary.
    Having used both Assmung and iPhone, I much prefer the iPhone.

    • Reality.Bites

      The last iPhone was waterproof too. I mention that not to correct you, but to highlight that Samsung is criticizing them for something that is not a feature of any phone they’ve sold for over a year.

      Meanwhile Samsung doesn’t make any TVs I can hang in my shower. What’s up with that?

      • Dazzer

        Not criticising, but why do you need to hang a TV in your shower?

        • zhera

          Porn, silly!

          • Dazzer

            Tangential to that: why is it that shower sex scenes in gay porn either always start with the water running and then they either turn off the water for the nitty-gritty bits or move to a dry bedroom to get things done.

            Gay porn stars never seem to have sex when the water is running.

            It’s environmentally unsound because they all have to have another shower after sex anyway.

        • Reality.Bites

          I don’t, actually. Just making the point (poorly) that being waterproof is not something we traditionally require from our personal appliances.

          In other words, yes, iPhones are waterproof now, and some (all?) Samsung phones have been waterproof a couple of years longer, but that’s a blip in the history of the telephone, or even the cell phone, or even the smartphone.

          Although not for porn purposes, I do keep an iPad on the bathroom counter that I can see from inside the shower and have a waterproof bluetooth speaker inside the shower. I like TV for mindless tasks like showering or sitting on the toilet.

  • Del Sam

    I wouldn’t take an iphone if it was given to me.

  • Lazycrockett
  • Leo

    OT. If there’s a branch I’d always throw under the bus first it’s these fundies…
    https://twitter.com/AP/status/927672115502899201?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

    • Cuberly Deux

      Oops.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Sadly, to many military and gun collectors, this would amount to an Ooops to them. What’s a few lives as long as people can kill with impunity. Sorry, but I can’t pretend anymore in believing that they care one whiff about this “mistake”, so long as the 2nd amendment is protected in a manner that, ironically, the citizens should be.

        • Publius

          Five years in the Army. Can confirm that a mistake like this would result in verbal punishment, letter of reprimand at most. The offender will a get a talking-to, but his/her command will likely downplay the offender’s role, if it even identifies an offender.

          • ZRAinSWVA

            Seriously? He cracked his infant sons skull!

          • Publius

            (Referring to the person who was supposed to report the guy into the database which would have prevented him from purchasing a gun)

    • JCF

      Head(s) really need to roll over this.

      But…we also need to pass LAWS over this. [There’s some doubt whether even if the USAF *had* uploaded the info, whether military judicial terminology would have flagged Kelley or not].

      New gun laws? TURN CONGRESS BLUE!!!

      House: dccc.org
      Senate: dscc.org

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  • alguien

    prefer samsung galaxy to iphone, personally. tried iphone for a week a few years ago and exchanged it.

    • Leo

      Thanks but I’m so sick of this shit. 36% is too high.

      • Patience my good Leo! Patience! Its not even one year yet! 🙂 We will be rid of the shitgibbon traitor cheetolini soon nuff!

        • teeveedub

          My concern is about how much damage he can do in the meantime, while we’re all exercising our patience.

      • MichaelJ

        I don’t believe it will go much lower. Trump has been playing to his base, and they love it for him. And since he is willing to let more traditional Republicans pursue their policies to further enrich the rich, deregulation (economic, environmental, and general retrenchment in government, he probably has eased the doubts these Republicans might have had when he first took office.

      • Rambie

        Too much of his base still believe in him. They blame the “Establishment” Republicans for not getting s***t done in Congress and of course the Democrats (they omit the s for some reason)

    • colo303

      Well, the record lows have been holding at 36 percent it seems. News outlets are so dramatic!

    • Boreal

      The numbers are still too damn high.

    • bkmn

      Imagine what that number would be if right wing media actually aired facts.

  • Judas Peckerwood

    Don’t know how good the Samsung smartphone is, but I’ve been using the same Samsung flip phone for over nine years and couldn’t be happier.

    • William

      Which one? My partner’s Rugby II is beat to hell. He wants a new phone with a better camera. That’s his only requirement. He doesn’t want a smart phone and will break the screen within two days.

      • Judas Peckerwood

        Mine is a PLS-m360.

        • William

          I think that’s older than the Rugby II.

          • Judas Peckerwood

            My mobile service provider CREDO still offers them as an option.

          • Lumpy Gaga

            CREDO. Let me get out the garlic and crosses.*

            I will give them credit for the fact that for the year I was forced to use it, I did enjoy my Samsung flip phone. Couldn’t take a picture worth a hill of beans**, but it was an easy-to-read/big-button affair.

            * Lost my CREDO-fueled Nokia in a cab, and with it, my right to no-contract service unless I also wanted to burn the phone number I’d had for almost 10 years. I had been paying month-to-month/no contract, but that was no longer an option from CREDO in 2013(?).

            ** If you ever wanted to see any picture you actually took on the CREDO Samsung phone, you had to message it somewhere and pay an accompanying “picture message” fee.

          • William

            Maybe I’ll buy him another Rugby II. This one has held up longer than any phone he has had.

  • Leo

    OT2. Showing up around 6am tomorrow to vote. Will fill everybody in.

    I’m not excited. I’ll leave it at that. Oh and this:
    https://twitter.com/MollyBeck/status/927674187757637632

    • SoCalGal20

      That’at least in part due to that voter ID law and other voter suppression tactics they used.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        That’s why I don’t blame the voters all the time because the suppression is REAL.

        • SoCalGal20

          Yes, people talk about how Dems just don’t show up to vote. Well, part of it is they’re literally PREVENTED from voting – onerous voter ID laws, crappy polling hours and no early voting at more convenient times, no vote by mail, shorter polling hours in more heavily Dem districts, and on and on.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Remember kids, not voting is voting Republican.

    • jerry

      But numbers of early votes, and particularly black voters, is encouraging in VA so far. It appears the Charlottesvile rallies had an effect.

    • JCF

      WI vote drop largely due to VOTER SUPPRESSION.

  • another_steve

    It’s a bit…subtle…for me.

    I stopped keeping current in 1982.

    • colo303
      • Lars Littlefield

        It’s NOT a tumor. It’s just an organic telephone rest that has grown behind my ear to accommodate my giant Motorola phone.

      • BearEyes

        I remember those. My first cell phone was a “bag” phone. Great call clarity.

    • edrex

      well… imagine you have access to a really fast delorien and the bell tower clock in your quaint town hasn’t worked in over fifty years….

      • another_steve

        Back in the late-70s/early-80s, man and I bought a Commodore Vic-20. Our friends considered us pioneers at the time.

        It’s in our basement today, in its original box.

        I assume it’s worth something – to collectors of that stuff.

        • Friday’s_cat

          My son returned the Vic- 20 I gave him years ago after I built my first PC. That was back when Computer Shopper magazine was the size of a phone book.

          • Lars Littlefield

            Sigh . . . I remember those daze. I miss the era when one could go to any Radio Shack and spend hours sifting through bins of condensers, capacitors and transistors while day dreaming of building the perfect boyfriend.

          • Paula

            I had a Vic-20. I was too poor to afford the disk drive, I had to rely on the cassette backup. Don’t get me started on the price of the printer, didn’t have that either.

          • E.J.

            I’ve got a Compaq portable in my closet…it’s portable because it has a handle. Thing also weighs 30 pounds

        • Yes it is worth something actually. Keep it!

        • edrex

          if you drive it fast enough you can learn what kind of communication devices people will use in the future.

    • Dazzer

      I have a Nokia that makes telephone calls and can send text messages.

      It also has a games function that I’ve never been able to figure out.

      Life is far less stressed than if I had a smart phone.

      • another_steve

        We have an indestructible Nokia cell phone (at least 10 or 15 years old – I’ve lost track). Just a cell phone. Nothing fancy.

        The boy works like the day we bought him. I’ve dropped it (unintentionally) in the garage and run over it with my car tires. It doesn’t care.

        Works like the day we bought it.

        • Dazzer

          Same experience here. I’ve dropped mine lots of times and it just ignores the indignity of it all and keeps on working.

          Also, for some reason, it seems to get a better reception (even if the sound quality isn’t great) when smart phones seem to be struggling to get a signal.

          I really need to get a replacement battery for it though – it’s had the same battery for nearly 20 years and it runs out of juice quickly.

          • another_steve

            Yes. It’s probably time to get a new battery for yours.

            We turn ours on only to make calls or only when we’re expecting an incoming call on it. Consequently, we’ve never had to replace the battery.

            The thing is absolutely amazing.

          • Dazzer

            You’re probably karmically related to my sister. She uses her phone the exact same way.

            We’re not old fuddy-duddies for using our phones like this. We’re old enough and wise enough to know that our time is more precious than being available to anyone who wants us 24 hours a day.

          • another_steve

            Thank you.

            In our home, all incoming calls go directly to our landline answering machine. We give out our cellphone number only selectively, and only when essential. We check our landline answering machine for messages several times a day.

            Our friends and relatives understand this arrangement.

            Works fine for them and us.

          • Hue-Man

            Got you beat. I don’t have a landline and have an extended absence greeting on my Nokia flip-phone telling the caller to e-mail me to set up a call. I’ve got everyone trained and bonus – no robocalls.

            It’s an (over) reaction to the abuse I had to put up with in CorporateWorld. Nothing more disheartening than “You have 25 new messages”. One creep left me a 15 minute message on three voice-mails (5 min max).

          • another_steve

            The number of money-beg calls we get is amazing. If our landline phone rang every time such a call was made to us, we’d be doing nothing else but running to answer the phone all day long.

            This despite the fact that we’re (supposedly) on all the “do not call lists” (though my understanding is that charitable organizations aren’t required to honor those).

            It’s really a pretty disgusting thing.

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      Dude, you can watch gay porn on your iPhone while you wait in the wrong lline! Get with the program!

  • colo303

    I’ve always been a pure android phone user. iPhone is too simple and samsung is too bloated. But those cameras are pretty lovely!

    • Cuberly Deux

      I loathe supporting samsung phones, that bloatware & interface they install is total system resource hungry crap.

  • About Samsung — When Benja was visiting here last year from Barcelona, he bought a Samsung Galaxy Edge (the super thin one) – not the Note, the one that was catching fire and the subject of lawsuits. Well guess what. In May his phone had a melt down — and almost caught fire. We bought his phone from an Amazon seller in the USA — it apparently was “gray market” and even though it came with an “international warranty”, Samsung customer service told us to go to Dubai to get it serviced (I am serious) and offered no help. I am an Amazon Prime member — they stepped in and sorted out a refund. There are many Samsung complaints on Amazon about other phone models burning up, and horrendous customer service. I will not buy Samsung again.

  • seant426

    They forgot the one where it catches fire. Oops, my bad.

  • Cuberly Deux

    When I did IT support at a media company everyone in the sales and marketing depts had iPhones. And, this is no exageration, every one of them had serious damage, cracked screens, backs, bent and dented rims. I recall one user that had a large chunk of their screen missing, it was so shattered it was kinda difficult to use.

    But they were the prime target market for Apple every single one of them would gush in anticipation of their next iPhone.

    Built in overly fragile obsolescence.

    • Frostbite

      And no other phone ever had a broken screen or “serious damage”?

      • Cuberly Deux

        It was just an observation that’s all. The sales and marketing groups did a LOT of travel and they tended to be very brutal on their phones. If ever there was the perfect user group to do field testing for durability they’d be perfect.

        Samsung phones were big among the executives, but they’d have the phone for less than a year till another model came out and they’d migrate to that one. It was crazy how many phones they’d go through. But they had to have the biggest and newest.

        To be honest I can’t recall working on a physically damaged android phone. iPhones were so ubiquitous.

  • Lars Littlefield

    But they didn’t show a Samsumyounguy 7 blowing up. Why?

    (I don’t own a smart phone. I have a simple LG phone sold by Tracfone — $68. And it’s usually turned off so people won’t bother me.)

    • jerry

      I have an LG android through Tracfone that I mostly only use when I’m away on vacation, to keep up on emails. I pay $99/year for the service.

      • Lars Littlefield

        My phone is probably the cheapest “smart phone” one can buy, but I don’t have it activated for internet service. Just making and receiving calls . . . and text messaging. I just bought yet another $19 add-on minutes card. I never use up all of the minutes, but they now make me buy a new card every three months. The only feature I find really worthwhile is I can set the ring tone to my husband’s number so I can identify if I need to answer the phone or not. Otherwise, it’s just an annoying pain in the ass.

        • jerry

          Yeah, I have an abundance of minutes left (like 6000)…and I would never remember to renew every 3 months, so I do the once a year thing.

  • Megrim Twist

    “iPhone X’s infamous notch”
    Can someone please explain this “infamous notch” to me? Thanks! LOL

    • Do Something Nice
      • Ham

        Yeah but why is it infamous?

        • Smithbc

          For more dramatic headlines I suppose

          • Lars Littlefield

            Actually, the notch has another purpose not often talked about. It’s the same reason there is a the notch in dog tags the military makes you wear around your neck. If you die in public on the street, the EMT services just jam the notch between your bottom front teeth for easier identification at the morgue.

          • Dazzer

            People jam an iPhone between the teeth of corpses in America?

            Truly, you live in a wondrous land.

          • Lars Littlefield

            😀

        • Do Something Nice

          I think because it is inelegant.

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Because it’s on TV.

        • Brian

          Probably because it’s dumb. It’s dumb that people make a big deal about it, and it was dumb to put the damned notch on the phone.

          IMO it looks like that was the last part of the phone they had to engineer and they just gave the fuck up and called it a day.

  • gaycuckhubby

    Shady bitches!!

  • Friday’s_cat

    Which one explodes in a ball of tire?

    • Samsung.

      • Reality.Bites

        A few months ago I read a comment that “someday someone will get a defective iPhone that catches on fire. And when it’s reported in the news Samsung fanboys will yell “Samsung had it first.”

        I have five Samsung TVs. They get enough money from me. I’ll keep my iPhone.

      • TuuxKabin

        Oh goody. There’s hope it self destroys and I’ll just leave it at that.

    • jerry

      It was Samsung Galaxy 8…they were banned from air travel by TSA. I assume they’ve now fixed the problem.

      • I left a reply below. I have personal experience with the Edge (the thin one) having a melt down– and heating up and burning through the circuit board also.

        • Brian

          It was just your hot box, Eddi.Can’t blame the phone for that extreme treatment 😉

          • This isn’t Pacific Bell Brian with personal knowledge of my “hot box” is it?

      • Smithbc

        7 or 7s I believe

      • If you do get a Samsung phone, you must get one through a carrier — do not under any circumstance buy one with a direct Samsung warranty and expect service. You are looking at hours of frustration. They are impossible to deal with. Get one as part of your T-Mobile or whatever contract —

        • jerry

          I bought a Samsung through Amazon a few years ago, immediately returned it because the charging port was messed up. Then bought my current LG android direct from Tracfone. I only use it away on vacation to keep up on email, or occasionally the camera…rarely ever actually make calls with it or text.

  • Macbill

    Although I recently upgraded for a larger, phablet style phone for viewing ease, I am too dumb to own a smartphone, and I must rely on my nieces to tell me how to “drive” it.

  • boobert

    I’m very anti phone and never text. We still have flip phones. One is acting up and may have to be replaced. I hate seeing a group of people sitting together and they’re all on their phones rather than having a conversation. And don’t get me started about driving and phones. There should be a cutoff when you’re in a running car.

    • Robincho

      There. You’re.

      • boobert

        So picky, lol. I saw it just before you sent. I’m better at math .

      • Publius

        Thei’y’re.

    • Frostbite

      Congratulations?

    • I didn’t get a smartphone for a couple years after the Apple Phone launch in 2007.. After I got it, I was thinking why did I wait so long?. Yes, they are addicting as all hell, yes, it is annoying to have dinner with people and they are looking at their phones half the time, (or I am as well) but they are incredible, and as much as they are all encompassing, there are reasons why people rather give up their wallets than their Apple or Android phones.

  • Lazycrockett
    • DaddyRay

      When democrats show up to vote – we win

      PLEASE VOTE – Our Lives Depend on It

      • TexasBoy

        All we’re voting on in Texas is another endless page of state constitutional amendments. Our state constitution has been amended nearly 700 times. Yes, really!

      • Snarkaholic

        I already voted, several weeks ago, by mail.

    • Todd20036

      No elections tomorrow in DC.

      • Joe in PA

        pffft, you don’t pay any taxes anyway…you don’t need representation. Ahem.

        [ducking]

      • Rambie

        None is my area either *High-5*

    • Joe in PA

      Oh you better believe it! I’ll be there to vote at 7:00am and then work those poles (you should pardon the expression) for an end to gerrymandering. This is the kind of shit I’m running against: (my PA rep posted THIS)

      https://twitter.com/Ryan_Mackenzie/status/927615005725519872

  • Publius

    A lack of stylus is not a grounds for criticism when the device has been designed not to need one. iPhone evolved from the high tech Palm Pilot long ago, thankfully.

    In any case, iPhones are kickass. They’re expensive, but IMO worth it for those of us who are able to really benefit from Apple’s many organizing features and tools.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Just please don’t notch your hairdo.

      • Publius

        That man’s hair is ruining my life.

    • fuow

      Oh, for fuck sakes. Those of us who aren’t members of the cult of Steve also know how to use a smartphone.

      • Publius

        Nobody said you can’t. I was concise in saying that I use it for the organizing features. IDGAF that there are people who live without iPhone.

  • Do Something Nice

    Regardless of how you feel about these phones, the headphone adapter criticism of the iPhone in the video is right on.

    • Cuberly Deux

      Supposedly removing it enables more room in the phone for other components yet to be developed. Apparently it’s a move to enable future functionality.

      Also, it lets the phone be thinner. Apparently having the thinnest phone is a driving marketing must-have.

      Like how many people own USB-C capable ear buds? And not everyone wants to use bluetooth ones. But this is typical apple, they’ve been early and aggressively knee-capping standards since forever.

      RIP Firewire 400-800.

      • safari

        “The tragedy of FireWire”
        https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/06/the-rise-and-fall-of-firewire-the-standard-everyone-couldnt-quite-agree-on/

        In the end, Apple couldn’t be trusted to license the technology properly, and Sony just wanted to call it something else entirely.

        • Cuberly Deux

          Yeah I remember reading about some of that.

          I have a drawer full of so many old firewire cables and adapters.

          • safari

            I just hope they stick with USB-C for like, oh, a decade.

          • Cuberly Deux

            I lost track of the re-re-re booting of thunderbolt. Probably their most short lived “standard” they ever implemented.

      • Do Something Nice

        Google made fun of Apple when they ditched the headphone jack and then had the audacity to dump the headphone jack in the new Pixel 2, which is a dog according to the press. (breaks easily, screen burn-in and the ‘best camera ever made’ has issues, etc).

        I’ve owned Google phones since they started with the Nexus 1 in 2010. Now I will probably get a Samsung early next year.

        • Cuberly Deux

          My favorite phone to this day is the original Moto X when it was owned by google. It was a work horse, durable, simple fast phone, which at the time I needed badly as I was on the road a lot. It held up wonderfully, till the battery life took a serious nose-dive. I was so bummed.

  • Treant

    Call me when they have a foldout screen or something. That might accommodate my very poor vision.

  • liondon#iamnotatraitor

    who’s the cutie in the picture?

    • Lumpy Gaga

      That guy who sent you the portrait-mode JO vid.

  • Dayglo

    I’ve owned and worked with Apple products for decades now but I’ll never understand the cult mentality of Mac maniacs — the worship of Steve Jobs, the defense of Foxconn’s exploitation of it’s workers, etc. I think we’ve all encountered at least one person who’s deeply obsessed with all things Apple.

    • Frostbite

      I’ve never understood why people place Foxconn’s actions at Apple’s feet, especially considering there are many other companies that use Foxconn for manufacturing (Dell, HP, Sony, Nintendo, Nokia, Sharp, Toshiba, Motorola, Microsoft, Cisco and the list goes on).. But it’s Apple’s fault.

      • fuow

        Why yes, yes it is apple’s fault.

  • gaycuckhubby

    For you Stranger Things fans… who knew he could do this?
    https://twitter.com/lovelyslumber/status/926966333379620864

    • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

      I knew!!! I watched Beyond Stranger Things! He’s a very accomplished young man. 🙂

      • gaycuckhubby

        And Millie is amazing! And a good singer too

    • TuuxKabin

      Well, if you’ve gotta watch/listen to that schlock, they do a good job.

      • edrex

        ha! take a knee with the rest of us.

    • Cuberly Deux

      The dynamic Dustin and Steve have in Season 2 is so cute.

    • Cuberly Deux

      Oh, supposedly they’re part of a group. They’d even perform on set between takes to pass the time.

    • SoCalGal20

      Gatan Materazzo played Gavroche in the recent Les Mis revival on Broadway.

  • TheManicMechanic

    I love Apple engineering and tight hardware and software integration, mostly they work well and are easy to use. But those same reasons are why I won’t buy any more Apple gear. The OS is way too simplistic and limited for the sorts of things I do with phones (computers too, but that’s a different story). Apple’s silly Lightning connector is not compatible with anything else aside from other Apple devices. Where they went for more universal standards like USB-C, they hobble the devices by only including a single port (when there is actually room for multiple) forcing the use of dongles and adaptors. There is no reason for this other than to sell those adaptors. The fact that Apple is very unfriendly to people (like me) who repair and maintain their own devices is the final straw that keeps me away from their products. However, I do recommend Apple devices to less tech-savvy folks who ask my opinions, because they seem to be pretty foolproof.

    A grand for a very fragile phone that needs dongles and the like for certain uses is way too much, and I usually never flinch when spending money on high technology.

    • Cuberly Deux

      Last year I configured a new macbook for a user that was particularly bad at all things tech. This was the model that had just the one C connector port.

      So had to buy an adapter for a USB keyboard and mouse. Had to purchase another one for ethernet connectivity (they don’t allow wifi connection for this group) The poor user tends to get confused on what does what. Yeah they’re that bad. But they requested for a new macbook by name.

      If they lose one of those adapters….that’d create a heck of a lot of problems for them. And I guarantee they will lose them.

      • safari

        I seem to remember a user with the single-USBC port trying to figure out how to connect it to her Apple monitor. One would think a $1500 laptop connecting to a $1000 display would not be a challenge from the same manufacturer.

      • ErikDC

        I am typing this on a USB-C MacBook at the moment… why would someone need an external keyboard and mouse for this device? It’s not the type of device you get if you want to use it with an external display. Thus, why not use the built in keyboard and trackpad?

        • I just love using a trackball. Even when I carry my laptop around with me I also put my Kensington Orbit Trackball in my backpack. I don’t bother using a wireless one – but they make one of those. It might have something to do with being a gamer.

          • ErikDC

            What type of laptop though? A trackball is ancient. The gestures and multi touch abilities from the track pad on the usb-c MacBook are far more efficient, versatile, and faster.

          • Lumpy Gaga

            Trackballs are to die for.

            Someone should die over trackpads.

        • Cuberly Deux

          Yeah I know, it was their preference.

          When you work in IT you encounter many many different personalities. And, when it comes to tech there’s a fair number of people out there that are quite finicky about their setup.

          Like I mentioned in my post, the user was particularly tech handicapped.

          Oh the stories I could tell. Lots and lots of em. Like the sales rep that refused to remember a password. I had to reset his password every single day he showed up at work. Or the user with the keyboard that was so encrusted with crumbs, food and hand lotion that most of the letters on the keys had rubbed off long ago or were so encrusted you couldn’t see them. When you typed on the keyboard it literally crunched.

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Because trackpads are Satan’s UI?

      • TheManicMechanic

        I like the docking adapter that I got for my Surface Pro 3 and 4. It’s not the one that holds the PC in a frame, instead it’s a box slightly larger than the power supply that plugs into the docking connector via a cable. One connector, and it replicates two DisplayPorts, gigabit Ethernet, a few USB 3.0 ports, and sound, along with its own power adaptor. Something like this needs to be made for the new Macbooks, probably by a third party, using the USB C connector. A rat’s nest of dongles, splitters and adapters is a mess to deal with, even if you mostly use it in one place.

  • TuuxKabin

    OT: with this nutter, sending strippers to neighbors house in the middle of the night.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/man-sentenced-prison-sending-strippers-neighbor-house-article-1.3614970

    • Boreal

      You can tell by his eyes that the boy ain’t right.

      • TuuxKabin

        Looks like the photo was taken while watching from across the street.

  • John Ruff

    Ha ha Ha! Sounds about right to me. FUCK Apple! Except for the iMac. I really like the iMac.

  • Lazycrockett
    • JackFknTwist

      A selfish comment by me :
      I’m seriously pissed off that i won’t see the movie about Gore Vidal, I’ve been a fan all my life !
      Come on Netflix release the movie……don’t punish fans for the lapses of judgment of others.

      • edrex

        there’s a movie abt. gv? i’ve really enjoyed the documentaries and i’m a little obsessed with la rondinaia.

        • JackFknTwist

          Yes, they have completed a movie called “Gore”.
          It is ready to be released. But Netflix say now that they won’t release it because of Kevin Spacey…..he played Gore Vidal.

          I’ve watched the other documentaries on GV….”United States of Amnesia” and “Best of Enemies”.
          Gore Vidal was a wonderful irascible dude all his life, he wanted to be part of the elite yet bucked the establishment at every opportunity.
          But most of all I loved his home in the Amalfi Coast and the beautiful long haired boy who looked after him in the later years.
          Edit : sorry, yes that’s the house I loved.

          • edrex

            goddammit kevin spacey! sexual assault affect us all. gv fascinates me. but he would have frightened me a little, too.

          • JackFknTwist

            I loved that explosive part of him.
            The debates with Buckley were him at his best.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      That’s a lot of $$$ down the drain. They probably had some Oscar hopes for that too so it’s a double loss.

  • Gigi

    Love my iPhone. Hate the dongles. I mean, come on. It’s like they do things just to piss us off. And we pay $$$ for the pleasure!

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      I want to hate dongles too but I have no idea what they are …

  • whollyfool

    OT: Fox News host on Texas church shooting: ‘Terror is terror’ no matter who commits it
    http://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-neil-cavuto-texas-church-shooting-2017-11

    Good that he said it, but sad that it deserves its own news story….

  • Tread

    Meh. I wouldn’t say this ad throws shade as much as it makes Samsung look desperate to have people be as big as fans of iPhone as they do the Galaxy.

  • band

    Pity his girlfriend died in that fire.

  • safari

    I stick to iOS devices since Android devices seem like software-clunkers that never get updated. I know many people are happy with their phones, but how many actually ever get their software updated in a reasonable amount of time these days?

    • safari

      My other complaint is that each manufacturer wants to do something slightly different to it because fuck user-experience.

      • safari

        I’ll give an example. My mom bought an android phone. The manufacturer disabled the ability to transfer photos to an expansion card, but allows for an expansion card. Why? Fuck you.

        First go to settings… Which one? The manufacture also has one. Oh, and there are three messaging apps installed by default.

    • Do Something Nice

      Uh, Android devices are constantly updated, and, unlike Apple, nobody complains that after an update the battery doesn’t last or their device is obsolete.

      • safari

        Really? I thought phone providers held up the major updates.

        • Do Something Nice

          Some of them do.

    • DaddyRay

      I will stick with my iPhone 7 for now. It works perfectly and don’t have any problems with it. There is nothing I need that is in the new version

      • safari

        I only have a 5s, and I’d buy it again.

    • fuow

      And I switched for the same reason.

  • Leo
    • whollyfool

      That’s crazy. Has this world gone mad?

      I thought it was pretty interesting that both Rose McGowan and Corey Feldman got arrested right after they made life uncomfortable for Hollywood.

    • SoCalGal20

      Speaking of Weinstein, here’s an interesting story of Juliana Margulies experience, first with skeezy Steven Seagal, then later Harvey (Her icky experience made her rightfully suspicious of Harvey). And she brings up the issue of the women casting directors/assiatants who arranged to bring actresses to Harvey’s hotel room. So disgusting.

      http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/julianna-margulies-recalls-horrific-hotel-room-meeting-steven-seagal-1055000

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        Women too have to be roasted for setting other women up to get attacked like that. They’re not much better than mothers in other countries who tell their daughters to come back home after the daughters elope with the man of their choice only to set them up to get snuffed by the angry father & sons.

  • safari

    Personal O/T: I’ve been writing in javascript and fighting CSS all day. I might be a little bitchy until my beer kicks in.

    • safari

      I’d also like to share, old web programmers, that I have been informed that, as of March, CSS now has “grids” for layouts. How far we’ve come.

      • AmeriCanadian

        Yes and it’s only 2017.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Anything !important?

      • safari

        No. I need to make a pretty-pretty front end for something we can already do with our tools… but I’m gearing it toward the non-developer PI for the project because it might be the only way to communicate with him what we’re talking about is if he can twiddle the knobs in a GUI.

  • edrex
    • safari

      Is it saving face when one world leader has to mimic the stupidity of another world leader?

      • edrex

        not in japan, i guess. those poor bloated koi.

        • safari

          Now I have a running list of thoughts:
          Dish washer? Throw in all the packets.
          Laundry time? All the bleach.
          Bath time? Whoever uses the tub next will slip and die.

          • edrex

            ha! tonight my dog gets the full 40 lb bag.

          • zhera

            Donnie has never done anything that could be categorized as ‘cleaning’.

            Except for money laundry, of course.

      • AlternativeQuacks

        For a second, Abe’s face gave away what he was really thinking.

        http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Trump_Shinzo_Abe_koi_pond-e1509973457828.jpg

        • coram nobis

          He was just being koi.

          • Natty Enquirer

            Better than carping about it.

          • coram nobis

            Next stop, Korea, where Donald will talk about fission chips.

    • greenmanTN

      I hate to be the one to call BS on this but in videos not so closely focused on Trump Prime Minister Abe throws his box of fish food in several seconds before Trump does and Trump appears to be following his lead.

      I hate Trump as much as anyone but it’s important not to get caught up in stories like this that turn out to be false or exaggerated. Dammit. I was enjoying the Trump The Koi Killer story too…

      • edrex

        sodesu ne.

  • fuow

    Good for them. Nothing is worse than the macfanboyz.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    How’s the porn on it?

    • edrex

      the cracks are where you want them.

    • safari
      • Johnny Wyeknot

        OMG I love that boi!

      • Natty Enquirer

        I had a boyfriend about ten years ago with exactly the same storytelling mannerisms. I mean the whole thing. It’s uncanny.

      • greenmanTN

        Chris Crocker and I are from the same town. Our accents and affect are nothing alike. 😒

        (Though I do have an accent, I’m told.)

  • Hue-Man

    Enquiring minds ask: Has the canary come home to roost is or 1:00 AM too early?

    • Dazzer

      It’s far too early. The party will only have started to get going around midnight.

      If it’s just a convivial night out with a meal and trip to the bars, people will start heading for home around 2am/3am. If it’s a full-blown party, all bets are off until after 7am.

  • Michael R
    • safari

      Wendy’s should make a new commercial.

    • JCF

      {shudder}

  • Lazycrockett
    • JCF
    • Leo

      The second one. Oh shit. 20 steps ahead. Wow.

    • Bryan

      “… Mueller can be saving a number of other charges, both in his own back pocket to incentivize cooperation, and also for the front pocket of state prosecutors in case Trump gives Papadopoulos a blanket pardon.
      [bolding is mine] “Mueller is a stone-cold professional.”

    • Dazzer

      It must be because I’m in a macabre mood tonight, but that photo reminds me of the pic as the Secret Service led out Lee Harvey Oswald just before he was shot by Jack Ruby.

      • greenmanTN

        Don’t even think it. Knock wood, throw salt over your shoulder, but whatever you do, don’t mention Macbeth!

        https://youtu.be/h–HR7PWfp0

        • Dazzer

          And another thousand up-votes for making me laugh before I go to bed. 🙂

          • greenmanTN

            I thought you might like that. 😁

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Not Macbeth.”

          — LOLz

  • Lazycrockett
  • TexasBoy

    I don’t get a new phone unless something goes wrong with my current phone. I went to iPhone (currently iPhone 6+) because I could never get an android product to connect well to my car, and iPhone has had no problems connecting. So I will stay with Apple, but as I said, I won’t buy a new one until my current iPhone dies.

    • zhera

      I am a child of my time so I consume plenty. BUT! I have a rule about using things until they break/run out. Buying a new phone because the new version has a millimeter wider screen, or 1GB more memory? Forget it. I know someone who will buy the newest iPhone as soon as it hits the stores. It disgusts me.

      My current phone is my first smart phone. My TV is my first flat screen, and I only bought it because my old, giant TV box was smelling burnt every time I turned it on. My DVD player is from 2001 and works just fine.

  • fiizok
  • safari
    • Leo

      AP/NORC which apparently didn’t count for any lasting coverage or poll averages for some odd reason was 32% recently. Thirty. Two. THAT’S the kind of numbers I’m pleased with.

      • It really depends on how you ask the question, and which question you ask before the “approval” question. It is long trend trend that matters more in a particular methodology (second time I am running this) Trump’s 9 month demise is remarkable.
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3c4adccaab5422b737f5087d62e09b25f57e3b427bfdb28ed87eef903f524d7c.jpg

        • MBear

          He’ll just start a war and with all the propaganda and ignorant murrikkans he’ll be at 122% approval rating. LOL

          • Not sure he can get away with it . This is, of course, unless Trump responds to an war or massive terrorist attack by someone on the USA first — then it is a different story. However, the honeymoon with Bush #2 after 9/11 was relatively short lived. Bush #2’s approval ratings in late 2001 were astronomically high.

  • safari

    My tweets inform me that Carter Page’s testimony before Congress have been released. All 248 pages of him being an idiot — without an attorney present.

    • teeveedub

      Only 248 pages? Considering how bizarrely stupid he is, I would have expected more.

    • bkmn

      For having a PhD he sure comes off as an idiot.

      • safari

        You see… you can be *really* smart in *some* things but oblivious to other things. These are my people, so I have stories.

        • safari

          Me: You’re driving the wrong way!
          Professor: Just for a little while.

          • safari

            Professor: [leaves restaurant] Where am I going?
            Me: Back to the conference center.
            Professor: *looks blankly*
            Me: It’s that way *points*.
            Professor: Ah. What am I doing there?
            Me: You’re being interviewed for a special.
            Professor: Wonderful. What am I being interviewed about?

          • zhera

            You had the guts to get in the car with such a spaced out driver?

          • safari

            It was literally my first day.

        • greenmanTN

          I worked in a University library and one of my duties was ordering A/V materials that professors requested. Of course some of the requests were a bit… vague or I had other questions.

          For example, I went round and round with one professor who insisted that Ken Burns had directed a film about Mahler. I kept telling him Ken Burns did documentaries about American history, even researched it to make sure there wasn’t some outlier he did early his career, but he kept saying their was one. Finally I said ‘fuck it’ and ordered “Mahler” by Ken RUSSELL and notified him when it came in and was ready for circulation. I never heard from him again…

          https://youtu.be/1jjFsciRauUS#t=00m40s

      • Natty Enquirer

        The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
        https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/cd0/b6/dr-phil-stare.jpg

        • Rob NYNY

          Sebastian Gorka.

      • Degrees mean nothing. I learned this evening Pat Robertson graduated from Yale Law School. I would have guessed Hooterville High School.

    • Dazzer

      Has it been released with complementary Xanax and colouring-in crayons?

      • bkmn

        Not Page’s testimony, but it is mandatory when ever Mental Ben Carson will testify.

    • AlternativeQuacks

      I’m reading it right now. I’m up to page 40. I can’t stand listening to that shifty weasel even in print. You can practically see him fidget and sweat in the transcript.

      Oh, and those letters of his that were entered at the beginning are totally bonkers. If the average person wrote a letter like that to members of Congress, they’d probably be getting a visit from the FBI, a 24-hour involuntary commitment and a psych eval.

      • bkmn

        Pretty much regurgitated all the well used right wing talking points about Obama and Hillary, almost like Fox drafted them for him.

    • Sam_Handwich
    • AlternativeQuacks

      The funniest part for me so far…

      “MR SCHIFF: So you had no private meetings with any senior Russian officials?
      MR PAGE: No, sir.
      MR SCHIFF: Now Dr. Page, you mentioned Arkadij —
      MR PAGE: Dvorkovich, yes.
      MR SCHIFF: — Dvorkovich. I’ll mispronounce his name. Is he the Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation?
      MR PAGE: I believe he might be, yes.
      MR SCHIFF: And you don’t consider to be a high-up official or someone in an official capacity?”

    • Leo
  • Leo
    • bkmn

      I hope you messed with them. Any group that has values as part of the name deserves mockery.

  • JCF

    OT: look at what I just got in the mail today (via flyer for “Sportsman’s Warehouse”):

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1f62bdcaf704142113fe6365dbca9344ebc899847da4bda952b24e40c8b133dd.jpg

    Kelley’s make&model (perhaps somewhat differently configured).

    Merka, Fuck Yeah!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/117738b70ecc1f17d7cecdaa02418520dd58bc59fa5b42987bca34b0602debad.png

    • Leo

      Do you mind me asking where you live?

      • JCF

        Carmichael CA (pretty damn Blue area). The flyer is a bulk mail drop; it’s not to me personally.

        • Leo

          Sportman’s Warehouse mainly on West coast but expanding. Hmm. Yeah, reminds me of Cabela’s which seem to be everywhere BUT CA. Eastern California/Nevada needs a meeting ground and chose the urban(ish) area. Makes sense I guess.

    • Boreal

      My husband keeps getting ads for guns like this. Neither of us are hunters or gun nuts.

      • Leo

        I’m sure you debate why, lol. Like some random mailing list he signed up for years ago.

        • Boreal

          Not a clue. He got a mailing from the NRA a few weeks ago too. Into the fireplace they go.

          • Leo

            HA!

          • SoCalGal20

            If I got a mailer from the NRA, if it included a postage paid envelope I put a bunch of pennies something heavy in it and a note telling them to fuck off. 🙂

          • Boreal

            It was some propaganda piece.

          • TuuxKabin

            But they know where you live.

          • JCF

            I’ve heard of attaching it to a brick!

          • SoCalGal20

            Ha!

      • fuzzybits

        On the flip side we get calls for security systems all the time now.

    • SoCalGal20

      You too can have your very own killing machine for $650! (Plus the clost of bullets, clips/magazines, and a bump stock!)

      • TuuxKabin

        Insurance premium?

      • JCF

        Life insurance? Funeral plan?

      • Refugay

        For once I am glad to know that 46% of Americans don’t have $400 for an “emergency” expense.

    • Bryan

      Also, jeez, those guns aren’t cheap.

    • fuzzybits

      Let’s see,can I help feed my kids or buy that.

      • Karl Dubhe

        Cook the kids in their mum’s milk and buy that.

        /way too drunk to post.

    • boobert

      Me, trying to shoot a machine gun ! https://youtu.be/D0erPUEn9Ug?t=7m8s

      • safari

        Most, if not all, of Bond is on Hulu this month.

  • Leo

    Not votes but I’m feeling buzzed and teary-eyed and sentimental. Bear with me.
    https://twitter.com/ofirahy/status/927701201201836035

    • TuuxKabin

      Hugs.

  • Dunkerblinker

    True…sooner or later you grow up and move away from the iPhone….

  • fuzzybits

    I had no idea about this notch.

  • MikeBx2
    • Leo

      I was gonna say SHOTS FIRED but then….:/

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      The nation certainly does suffer from a mental health problem at the highest level, and that mental health problem is Trump. The deranged dotard is completely unhinged.

    • stevenj

      If trump thinks “this is a mental health problem at the highest level” is he talking about himself in reference to signing the bill to overturn Obama’s directive to not allow the mentally ill to buy guns?

      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221

  • Michael R

    The U.S. Air Force said on Monday it failed to provide information as required about Texas shooter Devin Kelley’s criminal history to a U.S. law enforcement database – something that should have blocked any legal access to firearms in the United States.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-texas-shooting-airforce/u-s-air-force-says-failed-to-report-texas-shooters-criminal-history-idUSKBN1D62Y3

    • Michael R

      The judge’s order prohibited Mr. Holten from going within two blocks of his former wife’s home and imposed a number of other restrictions. What it did not require him to do was surrender his guns.

      About 12 hours after he was served with the order, Mr. Holten was lying in wait when his former wife returned home from a date with their two children in tow. Armed with a small semiautomatic rifle bought several months before, he stepped out of his car and thrust the muzzle into her chest. He directed her inside the house, yelling that he was going to kill her.

      “I remember thinking, ‘Cops, I need the cops,’ ” she later wrote in a statement to the police. “He’s going to kill me in my own house. I’m going to die!”

      Ms. Holten, however, managed to dial 911 on her cellphone and slip it under a blanket on the couch. The dispatcher heard Ms. Holten begging for her life and quickly directed officers to the scene. As they mounted the stairs with their guns drawn, Mr. Holten surrendered. They found Ms. Holten cowering, hysterical, on the floor.

      For all its rage and terror, the episode might well have been prevented. Had Mr. Holten lived in one of a handful of states, the protection order would have forced him to relinquish his firearms. But that is not the case in Washington and most of the country, in large part because of the influence of the National Rifle Association and its allies.

      • zhera

        Unbelievable!

  • Leo
    • Boreal

      Limp cock.

  • zhera

    Poo on her former employers! Hopefully she’ll find something better.

    https://twitter.com/guardian/status/927616108437401605

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Michael R

      Did they all get the Jill Stein rate ?

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        She’s one of the worst amongst the gang of traitors.

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          They really should poke around in the Green Party.

          • Tread

            And a certain independent spoiler.

          • Rambie

            I’m not sure Bernie’s campaign itself was colluding but the Russians did plant many Bernie-Bro trolls

  • safari

    Oh, Rachael. Keep reflecting the world is going into stranger times.

    • ohbear1957

      I liked the reference to proprietary eponyms. Cypriot banks are the Kleenex of money laundering. LOL

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: This is really just speculation but it would be nice if true. So basically, she can’t fuck things up as much as she wants fast enough so she’s liable to quit.

    https://www.salon.com/2017/11/06/officials-expect-devos-to-resign-from-trump-administration_partner/

    “I’ll tell you, in Washington education circles, the conversation is already about the post-DeVos landscape, because the assumption is she won’t stay long,” Toch told Politico. “I think she’s been probably one of the most ineffective people to ever hold the job.”

    Politico notes that Toch’s assessment was “somewhat harsher” than comments from department employees, since they perceive DeVos as ineffective and deterred from seeking major changes after discovering the limits of her power.

    “If there’s one thing DeVos has learned so far, it’s that getting your way in Washington requires time, patience and government savvy — three things she does not have,” the profile bluntly states.

    • BobSF_94117

      She has destroyed guidance about trans and disabled kids.

      She has opened the coffers to private schools, including religious ones.

      She has ended all sorts of programs.

      I think she’d be happy to step down/aside now.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        Nothing is ever enough for these oligarchs.

  • Boreal

    Ha! OT. Just for fun, google toupee and check out the first pics that come up.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Hair furor!

    • greenmanTN
      • Boreal

        That’s (ahem) totally believable.

    • Karl Dubhe

      It’s not the worst…

      There was this guy in Vancouver, he had a rug… I swear it was attached with velcro. But, damn… The hair wasn’t the issue, best nookie evers.

      • greenmanTN

        Nookie? Not sure what that means in regard to a man…

        • Karl Dubhe

          Waht? You’ve not heard of nookie?

          I’m sure you have, actually. 🙂 Just not with that term.

          Think of cuddling, snuggling, rutting and being utterly satisfied with the partner you’re with; that’s nookie.

          • greenmanTN

            Oh. Nookie to me is a rude term for vagina.

            “I’m gonna get me a little nookie tonight!”

          • Karl Dubhe

            I’ve never thought of it as that. 🙂

            Ohhh, boy. Good thing I never ran into a lady who had your definition of the word. 🙂 That would have been awkward.

    • TuuxKabin

      Hork.

  • Lazycrockett
    • safari

      That reminds me to vote tomorrow. Some idiot wants to tie a whole bunch of city/township/county millages into one giant capped amount for some stupid reason.

    • Treant

      We just have a ballot initiative designed to bring out the older population…and it doesn’t do what they say it does, anyway.

    • Taylor Bixler

      And filled with government workers that effing hate the orange menace

  • Jeffrey

    What a dumb thing to even argue about in the mess we’re in now. Who gives an actual fuck which phone you use.

    • edrex

      keep it real, my friend.

  • This Pyle Audio “Pretend you are in Downton Abbey” Iphone / Android Phone Dock would have gone perfectly with ex-Congressman’s Aaron Schock’s Congressional office – you can buy your’s here- http://www.pyleaudio.com/sku/PRT35I/Retro-Home-Telephone-with-Built-in-iPhone-Dock—Works-with-Smartphones-like-iPhone,-Android,-Blackberry-and-Any-Mobile-Phone-with-35mm-Jack
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1bb21b4d4dc6a119a831cb69920990b51fa5dba2d632f9826478149d56931917.jpg

  • 2guysnamedjoe

    El husbian got a little frustrated with his last cellphone. This video is a fair approximation of how he dealt with it.
    https://youtu.be/_-7toYWFEyk

    • TuuxKabin

      Fake coverage!

  • Lars Littlefield

    Richard Gates was Michael Flynn’s assistant and was fired around the same tme when Flynn was fired in June from being Trump’s National Security Advisor. Amusingly, Gates will have his ankle monitor turned off tomorrow so he can go vote in the Virginia election. It’s like poetic layers of intrigue. I wonder who Gates will vote for? I also wonder if Gates will bolt from the USA between voting and having his ankle bracelet reactivated tomorrow?

    As Judy Tenuta would say, “It could happen!”

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      If I were Mueller, I’d have an agent tailing him. The second he hit the nearest airport, I’d get airport security to pile on top of him and taze his nads a few times.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      One man, one boat.

      • Lars Littlefield

        Two girls one goat,

        • AmeriCanadian

          Two girls, one cup. DO NOT Google. You’ll be very sorry.

          • Lars Littlefield

            Funny you mention that. I still have no idea what it refers to, but I have some ideas. I’ve heard that expression for a couple of years. No planning on googling is. But thanks for the warning.

  • SoCalGal20

    Don’t know if anybody saw it but Donna Brazile is going to be on All In tomorrow. Ugh.

    • DaddyRay

      She quickly lost any respect I had for her

    • Treant

      Shes All In. I’m All Out.

      • Lazycrockett

        Rachel would have grilled her, I have a feeling Chris will go very easy on her. The majority of the convo will be how split the party is blah, blah, blah.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Just another Prima Donna in it for herself.
      So done with her.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      And AM Joy this Sunday.

      • SoCalGal20

        Oh, I’m getting some popcorn for that! Joy is going to destroy her.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: It was all about leaves & yard waste, maybe.

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/senator-rand-paul-apos-ribs-002650676.html

    “Just learned this may be over leaves and grass clippings! Silly issue but could be serious injuries and charges,” CNN reporter Drew Griffin posted on Twitter.

    The New York Times reported the fighting centered on a strip of land between their homes.

    “Two Kentuckians tell me Rand’s neighborhood fracas stemmed from a dispute over some sort of planting or flora issue around the properties,” The New York Times reporter Jonathan Martin posted to Twitter.

    • djcoastermark

      I love that ken-tuck-hehe has become the new flora-duh. It might , just might, give us a break here in Fla for a bit. Well, at least until the next doofy thing.

  • Leo
    • SoCalGal20

      Can only win if they cheat.

  • Lazycrockett

    Wow I just realized that NYC Mayor election is tomorrow.

  • fuzzybits
    • djcoastermark

      Wow, that muzzle eum thingy is just so gay. I love it.

    • Lazycrockett

      I love Cemeteries. There was one right next to the University I attended and me and my best friend and first love would walk through it at like 2 in the morning.

      • fuzzybits

        It’s like a hobby for us. We’ve been to quite a few.

    • edrex

      what a lovely final resting place. i plan to be consumed by raptors.

      • fuzzybits

        Sounds good to me and cheaper.

      • Treant

        I want my obituary to read, “He was eaten by giant rats.” Even if I died quietly in a hospital, just go with the rats.

        • Jean-Marc in Canada

          I want mine to simply say: “you should have burned the body”, especially since our family charter forbids exactly that. As the eldest son, my body must be laid to rest intact. Not even my organs are to be removed. Sounds gross and it’s anachronistic to say the least, but I’ll be dead so, it’s not as if I’m going to care anyway.

          • Treant

            You might as well simply say, “I walk by night.”

          • Lumpy Gaga

            Good times and bum times, I’ve seen ’em all

            And, my dear, I’m still here

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            Well, that’s pretty much my motto now, so….. 🙂

          • Lars Littlefield

            One of the motivations to officially marry last weekend was to put the final nail in the coffin, if you will, preventing any mormon relatives absconding with my remains to be buried according to their pointless whims. When my best friend died of AIDS in 1993 I took the time to arrange for my own funeral arrangements while I put together his goodbye party. Paid a whopping $29 a month for about ten years for a pre-paid plan whereby I am spirited away and immediately cremated when I’m declared no longer sucking in air. My cremains are to be taken care of by a small committee of remaining friends to ensure I’m scattered in my favorite spot. Luiz has to do nothing but take over as trustee of my irrevocable living trust. But now that we just got hitched I sleep a lot better knowing all property falls into his lap because joint tenancy laws also now apply.

          • fuzzybits

            Congrats!

          • Lars Littlefield

            Thanks. I’ll save your congrats when I’ll need them the most. You see, I haven’t died yet. 😉

          • Adam King

            You’ll make a much better zombie that way.

    • Treant

      Dear God, not section 35. They’ll keep you up all night with their revelry.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Absolutely beautiful. Gorgeous layout and the landscape, indeed a sight.

      Ours is not as fanciful, though I think it has more to do with the age. My family’s been in Montreal since it was called Hochelaga. We arrived on the second sailing in 1544 C.E. Family Crypts (first and second) on Mausoleum Row in Notre Dame de Neiges on Mount Royal. I’m to be “laid to rest” in the second from the bottom. Fun Fact: one our Fathers of Confederation, Thomas D’Arcy McGee’s crypt is just down from ours.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/737457ba885e2536df474b4551cd216dbb67784f0a551e48eb8c63152cade515.jpg

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/25637c0dd0891df0b0416f5cb17910d77f829740cf0a3b63aa616129ebf4942d.jpg

      • fuzzybits

        Beautiful.

    • Oh how nice! I bought a plot with my sister in “Phase 2” of this place in Boynton Beach. I am not joking. Like Seinfeld “Del Boca Vista” they have opened up a “Phase 2!”. No one looks like this cute guy either.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8f7162694c4fcccec8603c263ebe3cff14b362ed698d50f6219c0c008668915a.jpg

    • fuzzybits
    • JCF

      Though still not the exact clip I was looking for (my brother and I could quote it back in forth verbatim! Was earlier in the ep), some very funny clips from The Odd Couple’s “A Grave for Felix”:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5uQ7_xgg1A

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNIC5d97zRA&t=122s

    • greenmanTN
  • Captain Jack

    If you don’t like it , don’t buy it…

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      A truism, for any and all purchasing occasions.

  • AlternativeQuacks

    OT – Those lawyers and their technical legal terms!

    https://twitter.com/lauferlaw/status/927725772323688448

    • JCF

      I love the description: “the first living brain donor”. LOL

  • Leo
    • edrex

      he lives everywhere.

    • Sam_Handwich

      terrorist threats? lol

    • Treant

      “I’m quantum,” Page later added, “I can appear and disappear from any domicile as long as the altitude, and hence energy level, is the same.”

    • Cuberly Deux

      Translation: The basement, and yes, mom charges me rent.

  • Leo
    • Reality.Bites

      What a pathetic choice for the last vote he’s ever going to cast.

  • -M-
    • There’s something genuinely wrong with his brain. He doesn’t seem to think or process information like the rest of us.

      And he basically commits perjury every other minute.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        He’s so going to be dead meat in prison.

      • Symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder? Borderline personality disorder? I know there are terms for constantly lying. But let’s face it, he is filthy rich and President of the USA and I am not, so he is doing something right, eh?

      • Cuberly Deux

        But is it surprising? Look at Trump’s hastily assembled foreign policy advisory panel during the election. Beginning to look like the panel was less about foreign policy and more about getting donnie elected….ie; collecting dirt on Hillz.

        I’ve officially decided that all things trump are election winning and ego stroking, regardless the cost. Call it a foreign policy advisory board but it’s basically an extension of his campaign opposition research.

      • -M-

        Reminds me of a young child telling a story. He also seems thrilled with the attention and is so proud of the catchphrases he’s trying so hard to push like ‘dodgy dossier’ and ‘Clinton/Obama regime’.

        It’s hard to believe he can count change, much less travel on his own. You have to wonder about those talks he was paid to give.

  • Leo
  • Leo

    Wait one DAMN MINUTE. Sorry I keep spamming. This then good night.
    https://twitter.com/politicoalex/status/927546539593039873

    • fuzzybits

      A little bit of history repeating. I hope.

      • djcoastermark

        Shirley would certainly agree, and yeah, me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzLT6_TQmq8 Well worth a full listen.

        • fuzzybits

          Oh yea,have heard it many times. The album it’s on is good too.

          • djcoastermark

            I don’t know if you were alluding to her at first , but it was the first thing I thought of when I saw what you posted. Now I have all her songs running around in my head. Can never get enough of The Dame !

          • fuzzybits

            Yea,I was. 🙂

          • Lazycrockett
      • BobSF_94117

        Either incompetently overlooking the race or their internal polls show a GOP defeat and they don’t want to be tarnished. (Like they care about being tarnished….)

    • JCF

      We (Dems) HAVE TO win this race. We have to!!!!!

  • gaycuckhubby
  • gaycuckhubby

    Anyone been reading through the 243 pages of Carter Pages testimony in front of Congress? It was just released and it’s bonkers

    • Natty Enquirer

      He does appear to drive another nail into Sessions’ perjury coffin.

      • gaycuckhubby

        Yep. And throws Hope Hicks under the Mueller bus

        • And he’s bonkers.

          • Natty Enquirer

            So his testimony should be taken with a grain of salt?

          • David Walker

            Hasn’t stopped 45 yet.

          • gaycuckhubby

            His actions are bonkers but no indications that he is lying. If anything he’s bragging about collusion

          • Natty Enquirer

            If you tell me someone is “batshit” and “bonkers,” I’m going to be skeptical about anything they have to say.

          • gaycuckhubby

            True. But I meant he’s bonkers in how brazen he is.
            His accounts actually match up with the Steele dossier.
            His testimony isn’t in a vacum.they are all verifiable by emails, flights, reservations. all documents that are being turned over to the intelligence committee.

          • Exactly. He’s confirming the basic facts about what happened. We just can’t trust his interpretation of what it means.

          • Lazycrockett

            Or maybe he thinks by the time anyone takes action the Emperor will have sieged power and dismissed the Senate.

            http://www.sharegif.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/4-star-wars-quotes.gif

          • JCF

            This is probably one of the very best scenes in the 3 prequels…

          • And in a single request to grant emergency powers to Chancellor Palpatine, Jar Jar Binks personally destroys the Galactic Republic.

          • Ninja0980

            Knew there was a good reason to hate him.

          • I can’t think of anyone save Obi-wan Kenobi whom I didn’t loathe in those first three films. Some more than others. Binks tops that list.

          • Lazycrockett

            Ewan realized quickly how Lucas worked. Natalie didn’t figure it out till the 2nd movie and Hayden never figured it out.

          • Lazycrockett

            You know the story was tight, but man Lucas never needs to direct anyone ever again. He ruined those prequels.

          • Lazycrockett

            With any movie there is story line issues, but with a good director they can help what flaws in the story with good direction and advice and course correct. Lucas just wanted to special effects to take center stage.

          • Let’s just say that a particular and rather unique lens needs to be applied to what he says, in my opinion.

            His lack of legal counsel of any kind is itself baffling in the extreme, unless it feeds into something I suspect which is he’s desperately craving attention. And a lawyer would tell him to stop talking, and would give him prepared non-self-incriminatory statements to make

            So he agrees to do interviews when he shouldn’t. He agrees to give testimony, but only on the condition the transcript be released to the public afterwards. His opening statement was a lengthy paranoid conspiracy theory rant. In the space of two sentences he’ll contradict himself as to whether he did or didn’t do something, apparently blithely unaware that in doing so he’s committing perjury. But in addition to attention, he also seems to crave importance. Thus he describes himself as the central target of a vast multinational conspiracy…which he’s not. He knows certain people, among them being Trumpers and Russians. So he acted as a go-between. However, I remember a long while back the Russians describing him as basically a useful idiot, but nevertheless there is a lot of evidence attached to him and he appears clueless about giving it up freely.

            So for example, he’ll go back and forth in lying about the existence of certain emails. Turns out they exist. So then he’ll lie about what the emails actually mean. Will he have been in contact with Trump’s inner circle–Lewandowski, Manafort, Hicks, etc—during the campaign? Most likely yes. Can we trust his version of what happened in those encounters and what they meant? Likely not.

            So Mueller and the Congressional committees are gonna need to get these other people under oath.

          • gaycuckhubby

            Yeah. He’s a useful wedge for the investigators. He overstates his importance but gives them a blueprint of where the investigation can dig for more

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            Now for some reason I’m reminded of the movie To DIe For.

          • gaycuckhubby

            Batshit

  • OT- One month to go to the Crown Season 2. New Trailer released today. https://youtu.be/QsRrnHK1-5s

    • Treant

      Claire Foy won me over with her portrayal of Adorabelle Dearheart in Going Postal. I’ve loved her ever since.

    • Lazycrockett

      I really do love the idea that they are replacing Claire for season 3. This was always the plan. The new Queen is Olivia Colman and that’s a great choice.

      https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/nintchdbpict000074867333.jpg?strip=all&w=639

      • I am not familiar with her, but cool. They are also going to find someone else for years 5 and 6. — each “year” is covering 7-10 years of the reign apparently.

        • JCF

          See re “Broadchurch”

          • gaycuckhubby

            So good! Isn’t the new season of Broadchurch coming to the US soon?

          • JCF

            Um, it’s already been & gone (3rd & final season). I really wish I’d seen the first season. I saw the American remake instead (also w/ Tennant—doing an American accent!—but not w/ Colman. I thought the American actress was good—don’t remember her name—but quite a few critics said Colman was better). The American remake “Grace Point”, was canceled after 1 season.

          • Lazycrockett

            Colman can do anything. She really is amazing.

          • gaycuckhubby

            I didn’t see the 3rd! Now I know what my weekend plans are!

          • Lazycrockett
      • Cuberly Deux

        Ok, I may have to start watching it. I love Colman, she’s in so many brit shows and always shines.

        • Lazycrockett

          Its not amazing, but its very well made with actors having a lot of fun. Its very easy to binge.

          • Cuberly Deux

            Just finished Stranger Things 2 so this may do the trick.

          • Lazycrockett

            Only 10 episodes.

          • edrex

            minutes ago just finished episode 5.

    • DaddyRay

      I loved Season 1 – so looking forward to Season 2

  • SoCalGal20
    • fuzzybits

      No words.

      • Snarkaholic

        I have a few, but can’t repeat them here.

    • djcoastermark

      Just another way for the deniers to justify their “see, there’s no proof of climate change”. The world should weep.

      • Helen Damnation™

        WE (progressive type folks) are in the majority! We need a fucking revolution, I’m just not sure who, what, or why.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Makes my blood boil.
      Just hideous!

      • JCF

        Soon, all liquids will boil…

    • BobSF_94117

      Knowing about the Arctic also facilitates its development. They’re not only preventing people from understanding the damage of global warming, they’re handing the Arctic over to Russia for exploitation.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I’d be so tempted to claim I destroyed it but hide it in a warehouse so a Dem president could send it up.

    • edrex

      the current us president is a bona fide villian. what a fucking tragedy.

  • Ernest Endevor

    Yes, because Samsung invented the touchable screen and gestures and the design and the idea of apps and the magical design and the connectivity and then Apple stole all their ideas and made their own version that was so much better because… Oh no, wait, no they didn’t. It was the other way round.

  • Treant

    OT: 39° and dropping. General Winter just marched into town.

    The pots are in, but only two or three of them look great. The weather was all over the place.

    • Sam_Handwich

      looks like we’ll have our first frost friday night. that’s 2-3 weeks late.

      • JCF

        Late is the new normal.

        • Sam_Handwich

          i’m kinda liking it!

          but also realize we’re like slowly boiled frogs.

        • Treant

          Better late than pregnant.

    • Ninja0980

      Same here.
      Hubby and I have busted out the winter blankets.

  • Hue-Man

    O/T “Michelle Obama is coming to [Toronto] later this month [November 28] to speak about education and equality for girls and women around the world.”
    The twist:
    “3,000 tickets will be sold for the event, but each buyer will purchase two tickets, with one being donated to a young person between the ages of 14 and 24.”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/11/06/michelle-obama-is-coming-to-toronto_a_23268611/?utm_hp_ref=ca-homepage

    • djcoastermark

      Too cool! Oh what we have lost.

  • worstcultever

    Fuck all human nonsense and have an internet puppy

    (This might be my default setting anymore)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8ade1613750741f4fd703a114e3359224b1a511537620f7077a432919e6aff62.jpg

    • djcoastermark

      Me want cuddle now. Me want fuzzy happy puppy.

      • worstcultever

        wanna SCRITCH THEM EARS n boop that nose also!

        • JCF

          Look out for that tongue! 😉

          • djcoastermark

            Nothing more fun than puppy kisses ! (edit, ok, well……)

    • edrex

      cattle dog!

      • Lars Littlefield

        Blue Heeler puppy?

  • Sam_Handwich

    Trish Nixon’s husband, Ed Cox. he’s chair of NY GOP

    https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/927746418206478336

    • Ninja0980

      We’ve been dealing with that asshole here in NY for a long time.
      You want to see the person leading the charge to downplay what Nixon did, it’s Ed Cox.

    • fuzzybits

      All these scumbags are connected somehow.

      • Max_1

        They are…
        Donald J Trump.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      So when is Carter going to put a tattoo on his back?

  • Blake J Butler

    An ass man through and through, which is why the most asses need to win tomorrow.

    Also i’m in the mood for ginger’s right now, and tumblr suited my needs.

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-akZF5SUknUo/U3loArB3STI/AAAAAAABw6A/pMepskLN4Lo/s1600/Ginger-red-head-fire-crotch-sexy-hot-shirtless-naked-ass-+muscle-hairy-chest-beard-gay-guys-men-tumblr-kissing-freckles-65.jpg

  • Sam_Handwich

    omg i hate the fall time change. i stay awake at night and don’t want to get up in the AM

    there’s a movement afoot here in Mass to switch to Atlantic time, and it might have some traction.

    • Ninja0980

      A change I would fully agree with.

    • fuzzybits

      I’m feeling it. It was overcast all day today so it started getting dark before five o clock today.

    • safari

      I want to just switch to Eastern Saving Time. Lighter in the evenings means I’ll want to do more, the economy will probably pick up… and who the hell cares if it is dark when trudging to work/school in the morning? It’ll only get better.

    • Lazycrockett

      Don’t blame the Farmers.

  • Ninja0980

    Was out with the family tonight so I’m just getting on now.. how was everyone’s evening?

    • sdnative1958

      Great, thank you for asking! Welcome to the Ignore the Topic Comment Section!
      ; )

    • Sorta weird. We’ve kinda been going through Carter Page’s testimony transcripts and the general consensus is he’s both an idiot and a loony…but that he incriminated the hell out of everyone in Trump’s inner circle.

      • Ninja0980

        Not a shocker there.
        None of these folks are going to go to prison for Trump and company.

        • Reality.Bites

          I kind of hope some do.

          Why? Because I think people who followed Trump deserve to have really bad things happen to them that would have never happened to them otherwise.

    • JCF

      Dad and I just tried the new Asian buffet nearby (our area of Sacramento had needed a decent Asian buffet since I moved out here in 2010! I’ve never been able to figure out why bumfuck Michigan had a bunch of good Asian buffets, and here in Sacto—California, the Capital of Asian America?—didn’t). It was pretty good! The coconut shrimp was excellent.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: A cat plays fetch like a dog.

    https://youtu.be/3f_h0rxhD9I

    • safari

      The best cat I was ever owned by was a orange and white tabby.

    • fuzzybits

      Our kitty Carlisle always fetched. I’d throw a ball of tin foil and he would bring it back but usually drop it in my shoe.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        What’s interesting about the video kitty is the enthusiasm.

    • Treant

      If you did that with my Sage, he would have let you know that you can go get it yourself before you fall over it. Or not. He wouldn’t care, whatever, screw you.

      Here’s Sage sitting on the dining room table that he knows he’s not supposed to sit on.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c31f12c9b336024a401895733dd818de13f589d648e517a617e327904c120b96.jpg

      • safari

        Grace. Beauty.

        • Treant

          Attitude.

          Actually, he was an amazingly affectionate cat. He was always in the same room as you, and frequently on the same couch.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Sort of a cattywampus modeling of the Sphinx don’t you think?

        • safari

          The Sphinx needed more belly to entice nuzzling.

          • Cuberly Deux

            The final design, so serious…. :]

      • greenmanTN

        I think I’m getting close to naming the 3 little kittens. From L to R: Girlene, Tuffy, and (I’m iffy about this one) Kitty Boy Floyd https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2b6bcdf7684f1bcdadc7968e11ee3beab4f975997d2c1f25ea009241d0e89b8b.jpg

      • Reality.Bites

        My first dog just didn’t get fetch. He’d always run over to the thrown object to see if it was interesting and since it wasn’t, he’d leave it.

        He did love playing tug-of-war with old socks that had been given to him.

    • JCF

      When I was in college, there was a cat next door (a little calico named “Muskrat”) who would visit us, and loved to play fetch w/ the black walnuts which fell off of our black walnut tree. 🙂

  • Lazycrockett

    Saudi Arabia is making some ballsy moves.
    First Iran and now

    https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Eng/status/927630408346488832

    • safari

      Well, they said the same thing about Iran a couple days ago.

    • Treant

      I like the gingham tablecloth he’s wearing as a hat.

    • JCF

      Quick, Jared, Make Peace! /s

    • Mikey

      in my best Blanche Devereaux voice: “The lesbians have their own country now?”

      • Treant

        Wasn’t Danny Thomas one?

    • Cuberly Deux

      Lawrence of Arabia drag.

      No way they don’t pad around their mansions in cargo shorts and a t shirt.

      • djcoastermark

        Dang, I was wondering what happened to my picnic table cloth. Oops, did I say that?

  • HappyDance904

    Samsung was exploding all over the place this time last year!!

  • Cuberly Deux

    OT: If you have time the video is rather fascinating. Development run amok. The leaning tower in SF. Talk about scary shit. And the gay millionaire couple got the fuck out of there FAST. Not a surprise.

    When you see cracks on the surface that’s a red flag that worse shit is going on underneath.

    “New ’60 Minutes’ shows shocking footage of the cracks in the Millennium Tower basement”

    http://www.sfgate.com/local/article/60-minutes-shows-footage-cracks-millennium-tower-12335207.php

    • Sam_Handwich

      this has been an unfolding disaster for at least a year. what’s the city doing about it?

      • Ninja0980

        Nothing from the sound of it.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Lawsuits, lots and lots of lawsuits.

    • BeaverTales

      I’m worried that the rush to throw up shitty overpriced construction in cities that are in Earthquake zones is going to lead to some kind of major tragedy

    • AmeriCanadian

      Last sentence from the article says it all: “The tower was not built on bedrock.”

  • Gonna call it an early night… take care peeps.

    • Lars Littlefield

      Duerme bien, pookims.

    • JCF

      Nighty-nite!

    • Ninja0980

      Night.

  • Moebym of the Returners

    As an Android phone user and a member of the PC faithful, anything that throws shade at Apple for its overpriced products and cult-like following makes me smile.

  • Lazycrockett
    • djcoastermark

      Good one. And yes, I sent in my ballot last week. (ok, not from Va, but my local election where, I , live.)

  • Lazycrockett
  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: I often hear that certain foods should be avoided at restaurants (not for safety but usually because their prep is bad or they’re over priced).

    1. fish dishes at a non-fish oriented restaurant
    2. chicken (I usually avoid roasted chicken because I can do that at home. A good fried chicken that’s a specialty of the restaurant and I’ll consider it)
    3. Specials (I heard cooks say they’re spiffed up left overs)
    4. Pasta (often over priced for what it is)
    5. ice cream that’s not made on the premises
    6. Steaks/chops with the bone in it due to uneven cooking

    • Lazycrockett

      There is a website called iwaspoisoned. and it seems that eating chicken outside of your house is just asking for it. That goes with salads as well.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        i just checked there and Chipotle is named multiple times on the first page.

      • JCF

        Turkey burgers! }-0<<< Chicken at a non-chicken restaurant. Mexican from a non-Mexican restaurant (if tacos is the only Mexican item at a restaurant, fuhgeddaboutit!)

        But I've never had any problem w/ chicken from the Colonel or (Mmmm! special weakness) Popeyes. Specials? Depends on the restaurant: if the food there is generally good, the specials likely are, too.

  • GanymedeRenard
    • JCF

      I wonder if the follow-up scene has some queen w/ a lighter: Harlem is burning!

  • coram nobis
  • Max_1

    I wish the “Pro-Life” crowd would actually BE Pro-Life and be against killing people with guns… But nope. They stand on the pro-2nd Amendment solution side, which supports an American’s Right to be able to kill with a gun.

    Face it, no knock warrants beat the Second Amendment… Especially at 4am.

    • JCF

      I can’t quite follow your last line: splainy for the slow and/or barely awake?

  • DaddyRay

    Improve Everywhere strikes again

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFJpq8S99bM

    • safari

      #BitchesGetStitches trends tomorrow.

      • DaddyRay

        More Rand Paul updates?

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: I picked this up from Hemant’s blog and an entry refers to this article. Now only would they make it harder to have an abortion, the GOP want to make it harder to ADOPT:

    https://theintercept.com/2017/11/03/republican-abortion-ban-adoption-tax-credit/

    “The House Republican tax reform bill would completely eliminate the adoption tax credit, which has been in the tax code since 1997. It was a bipartisan achievement pushed through by former Texas Republican Rep. Bill Archer, who was chair of the House Ways and Means Committee. Designed to help cover
    “reasonable and necessary adoption fees, court costs, attorney fees, and other expenses,” the credit is available for up to $13,460 per child.

    Some employers also offer adoption assistance in the form of financial aid and paid leave time. As of now, this type of assistance is tax-exempt, but the proposed bill would make such benefits subject to taxation.

    The bill would also make adoption assistance from employers — which usually takes the form of financial aid and paid leave time — taxable.”

    • Lazycrockett

      This makes no sense, not that it would keep people from adopting a child and removing said child from the government cost of raising it, a tax cut would be an added incentive. Though i guess this cut would keep the kids in the pipeline to prison and just eliminate any chance they ever had.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I heard even some forced birthed groups are pissed because this majorly shat on one of their “best” arguments that the products of forced birth would have plenty of takers. I hope that this helps to sink the tax plan as a whole.

        • Reality.Bites

          But those groups are Christianist and they’ve demonstrated over and over again they will put up with any shit from the people who pretend to be on their side.

    • BeaverTales

      If you have a nativist agenda of having lots of white babies and shutting out immigrants, this will harm minority and disabled kids. Unsurprisingly, white babies are usually easier to adopt than black or brown kids in America.

      Poor families looking to adopt would have to stay in the foster system.

      This will put more minority kids into the foster system and probably institutionalize disabled kids who are almost impossible to adopt, the most healthy and photogenic kids are always going to be adopted by the wealthy.

      Social Darwinism….Just what the Nazis wanted!

  • Lazycrockett
  • DaddyRay
    • Treant

      He did well, he didn’t even confess to eating the Lindbergh baby.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Maybe he traveled back in time to join Ted Cruz’s dad to assassinate JFK.

    • JCF

      “…and Jimmy Hoffa. And the Malaysian Air flight.”

  • DaddyRay

    It looks like Milania mistook the Air Force 1 inflation device as a jacket

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d8cb15563c5d9eebf9412c2d3dbd7468c62ca02750c8e8ab3c543d02674134e7.png

  • Treant

    OT: I can’t bloody sleep. So, it being the Last Night and the temperature now at 33.7° at my outside sensor and falling, and two of my winter plants not looking good…

    …Well, I went out in my PJs and robe and dug up an extra ageratum. It’s now chilling…by which I mean warming…in a cute black pot I got cheap at the Home Depot.

    • Lazycrockett

      What will the neighbors think???

      • Treant

        If they’re sensible, they’re all asleep. If they’re not sensible, they’re used to me doing things like this!

    • JCF

      I remember doing crazy things like this when I lived in Michigan!

  • DaddyRay

    Father Kills 14 Year-Old Son: ‘He Would Rather Have a Dead Son Than a Gay Son’
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/father-kills-14-old-son-233839242.html

    • Lazycrockett

      The machismo of men. ugh so stupid.

      • DaddyRay

        Tony Perkins and his klan have blood on their hands

    • leastyebejudged

      What pisses me off about that is that it did not make it to Northern Nevada local news.

      So I’ve e-mailed our 3 local stations, I may even go so far as to place letters of complaint on file at each of them.

      You have a right to place letters for the FCC to review AT the local stations.

      • Rillion

        It happened in Henderson, basically Las Vegas. The local news in Northern Nevada doesn’t have time to cover every murder down in LV.

    • zhera

      But he wouldn’t rather be dead himself. Funny how that works, isn’t it. I hope he has to spend the rest of his life behind bars.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: It’s amazing what paint restoration can do. The final product is at the Twitter account.

    https://twitter.com/philipmould/status/927542755500359680

    • Lazycrockett

      Wasnt that amazing, did you see the church and the black madonna?

      • Lazycrockett

        spoiler……shes not black.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        Yes, it’s really amazing how different things look.

    • Treant
      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        People also call it “Ecce Mono” or Behold the Monkey. The “artist” said that they didn’t let her finish. I now wonder what the finished product would have looked like.

        • greenmanTN

          The church started printing posters and postcards of the “restored” work because there was so much international interest in the story and, let’s face it, the image is funny. So they were actually making money on it, something that would never have happened with the original image, even with a legit restoration. It was reported at the time that the old lady who washed the fresco and fucked it up so badly SUED to get part of the money!

  • Mike Solo

    I have an iPhone 6s, and it is the last iphone I will have. After looking at the 7, which was just my phone without a headphone jack (strike 1), to the 8, which isn’t special in anyway (strike 2), to the X, which is just seems like they could have done so much more, and there is no fingerprint sensor (strike 3). After a decade, and while typing this comment on a mac, I’m done with Apple.

  • JCF

    Late-night random comment: anyone else here watching “Poldark”, who also saw the 1970s “Poldark”?

    Last night was a scene I’d been waiting for: when Aunt Agatha drops a dime to George Warleggan that his son Valentine might not be his. I could have sworn that in the 70s version (this is just from my teenage memories of then), George, enraged, threw her down the stairs to her demise? Contemporary version, she just begins babbling (hinting to Elizabeth what she’s said to George) and expires. Is my memory faulty?

  • zhera

    We had an earthquake this morning! It was a 3.8, or something like that. I didn’t feel it, only heard a long vibrating noise for about 15 seconds.

    • OdieDenCO

      let us hope it is the country moving left.

  • AJ Drew

    Voting Day!

    101 years ago today, Jeannette Rankin became the first female U.S. Representative.
    Rankin opened congressional debate on a Constitutional amendment granting universal suffrage to women.
    “I want to be remembered as the only woman who ever voted to give women the right to vote.”

    http://history.house.gov/People/Listing/R/RANKIN,-Jeannette-(R000055)/

    • AJ Drew

      Most importantly, though, she would have been an Android fan-gurl.

  • Leo

    Just voted, straight ticket Dem, no ballot initiatives, although I do wish there were more running for the school board. High tailed it so fast through the place I practically knocked over the high schooler with the ‘I Voted’ sticker. Apologized and put the sticker in my pocket. Hated being nearly knocked over by a crazy Ted Cruz supporter last time in the parking lot. Sweet old ladies (supposedly) with iced lemonade and pastries inside.

    I’ll see y’all tonight hopefully for the results. It all comes down to who votes more today. Everything southwest of Roanoke is hardcore Trump country – if enough of them feel Gillespie’s capitulated enough to Corey Stewart’s confederate ideals he’ll push it over to the top. If however, early projections hold for the numbers needed in NoVa and Hampton Roads, Northam will make it over the top.

    The precincts Dems need are the largest and the last to report. Mark Herring had a recount last time because he won with just over ~100 votes that turned out to be just over ~500. It’s going to be a LONG night, imo.

  • Leo
  • SoCalGal20
  • SoCalGal20

    Chris Geidner livetweeted the Carter Page testimony lol. Starts here.

    https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/927709900247130112

    • Rillion

      Wow, he is trying to invoke the concept of double jeapordy because he has already been subject to “extra judicial punishment”, ie people being mean to him cause he is Russian tool.

  • Chris H.

    I’ve already voted via mail in ballot , but voted straight D. Less nuts….and less insane…and less dangerous and on.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/770365f5ea4af7e37b43f56ee3e142cfe4eb557cfbbf32528b5e1419699d7bc7.jpg

  • BeaverTales

    No one is discussing the Paradise Papers. No one is outraged by robber barons or rich people getting richer using tax dodges except for the poor

  • 2guysnamedjoe

    If I got an iPhone X, I’d never have to worry about breaking it. Anything that small and that expensive would be lost within two days.

  • Ron Robertson

    The company with exploding washing machines and phones does what?

  • Bj Lincoln

    I have been telling people this for the last 10 years. Stop wasting your money on too expensive junk.

  • Secure

    Iphone works well for me & it’s my only camera.