ALABAMA: Birmingham Newspaper Eviscerates “Delusional” State Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore

From the editorial board of the Birmingham News:

Roy Moore is delusional about Roy Moore. The only bad thing that has happened since Alabama acquiesced to the ruling of America’s Supreme Court is that Moore hasn’t got enough attention, so once again he has “ordered” probate judges to not issue marriage licenses to gay couples.

Over the past several months, meantime, hundreds of Alabamians have quietly married and continued happy lives together, assured that they will be legally recognized as spouses, not having to worry whether one could care for the other in sickness or that they could share a full, equal life in health.

Moore’s latest salvo will pass quickly, as will his attempts to garner attention. Already many counties are ignoring him, as he deserves, and U.S. attorneys are rightly putting his “order” in context as irrelevant but for its mischief value.

It is time Roy Moore realized that he is wrong. He is wrong on this issue, he is wrong in thinking he might ever be governor of Alabama, he is wrong in seeing himself as of presidential timber, he is wrong in thinking that he matters.

Already, there are citizen calls for his impeachment. He will soon go into retirement and be remembered as a bigot, disrespectful of the law and of his fellow human beings. That might be the only memory he has earned in his time in public office. And, hopefully, Alabama’s citizens will be remembered as the ones who showed him the door.

Mic drop!

  • Michael Rush

    We have to get to a point where anyone who can’t look out for the best interests of ALL of the people are going to KNOW they will be removed from their position .

    • RoFaWh

      But, please, everyone, remember that looking out for the best interests of all the people doesn’t mean everybody gets what they want. My perfectly legitimate aspirations may collide head on with yours, forcing compromise on both sides. Arriving at that just compromise without prejudice or bias is the job of government.

      Head on collision:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9_g1NuoT6s

      • Phillip in L.A.

        “Arriving at that just compromise without prejudice or bias is ^supposed to be the job of government.”

        There

  • Editorial Gold!

    • Alan S. Lee

      Probably the best I have seen in a long while!!

  • Prion

    Doesn’t get much better than this…

    • Stealing!

    • John30013

      You always find the best editorial cartoons!

  • Prion

    • Corsair Tact

      Love the little touches: ding dogs and jerky!

      • TrollopeReader

        just missing the Twinkies!

      • Phillip in L.A.

        yes, but where’s the giant Ten Commandments “sculpture” Ch. J. Roy Moore installed on the grounds of the Alabama Supreme Supreme Court with taxpayer monies?

        • Leslie Gray

          Probably in his back yard.

    • Spawn_of_Santa

      at least HE brought snacks.

  • Blake Jordan

    He should be concerning himself with misdeeds of his son, and I doubt the rest of his family are upstanding citizens…

    • BearEyes

      like his wife’s tax-free cash register – er… foundation?

  • sw42

    Nice. And well-deserved. And nice to see the fourth estate do its job. Here’s hoping other media will do the same. Moore is not much of an outlier. Put him next to the Republican field he’s not even that remarkable.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      “Moore is not much of an outlier. Put him next to the Republican field he’s not even that remarkable.”

      But remember he is the Chief Justice of the State. I am not aware of justices from other state supreme courts making complete and utter assclowns of themselves

  • b

    The probate clerks are smart to ignore him. They don’t want to pay out money to the couples if the couples sue them in a Federal lawsuit. The probate clerks will surely lose the lawsuit, and could even face bankruptcy.

    • j.martindale

      From what I have read, there are plenty of rural judges who are obeying him.

      • David L. Caster

        They will come to regret it too.

      • Reality.Bites

        How many gay rural Alabamans apply for marriage licenses on a typical day? It’s easy to not do it if no one asks – and informs you you’re going to be hauled into court if you refuse.

      • ChrisMorley

        11 rural counties judges are refusing, of the 67 counties in the state, according to wiki.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Alabama

  • Curieux Bleu

    Impeachment proceedings could not begin fast enough for this evil racist homophobic pseudo-Xian asshole.

    It is heart warming to see in that editorial an advocacy for reason, tolerance and respect for ALL citizens in ‘Bama.

    We have to remember there are many good southerners, not all of them black, but the bad guys down there are way more numerous amongst the white population … those who cling to the ways of the KKK and all the misogyny and animus toward minorities that go along.

    We LGBT are only ONE of the groups the “Citizens Council” have marginalised through the hundreds of years passed by. Moore is vicious but only symbolic of the deep entrenched bias that denies civilised society in the deep south, ( and elsewhere.)

    • Phillip in L.A.

      So well said, Curieux Blue (wipes away a tear).

  • Fantastic editorial.

  • Gustav2

    You might be a bigot when:

    A newspaper editorial in Alabama calls you a bigot.

    • GayOldLady

      You might be a bigot when the Birmingham News calls for your impeachment. Quite an amazing Editorial.

      • John30013

        If I recall correctly, the Birmingham News editorial page has been consistently on the side of marriage equality. So I’m not surprised to see this–gratified, but not surprised.

        • Nic Peterson

          The only thing they missed was calling his own parenting skills into question and a gentle suggestion to mind the matters of his own family before holding himself up as some kind of standard.

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      • Joseph Miceli

        I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more damning editorial opinion written about anyone! Is this the paper of record down there? Good Lord, how can the man even have the gall to go out in public after this?

        • TrollopeReader

          his constituent base probably can’t read ….

      • Anastasia Beaverhousen

        Having lived there for fourteen years, Birmingham is actually a quite progressive city. 20 miles out…. Not so much.

        • GayOldLady

          I think that true of a lot of the larger Southern cities. Nashville & Atlanta are both progressive cities, but both States are bright red.

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    As a judge, he knows damn well that he is in the wrong. If he truly doesn’t understand that, he needs to be disbarred permanently. In his case, his bigotry and hatred are more portend than his ethics.

  • anne marie in philly

    “’Delusional’ State Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore” – more like shoebatshit fucking crazy teabagistani loony!

  • bryan

    I love the part about Moore’s need for attention. Moore does not want to be a court justice, he just wants the cameras on him. It is Norma Desmond syndrome.

    • Gustav2

      Don’t forget his retirement funding through the family non-profit and the chicken dinner speechifying circuit.

      • TrollopeReader

        and the 990s of the “family foundation” keep mentioning how he is “owed” $435,000 by the foundation ….(shown as a liability by name in the 2012 990, and as an unnamed “liability to an *unrelated* entity in their 2013 990. He’s also lost his $138,000 salary in 2013.

        • Phillip in L.A.

          Wow, TrollopeReader, thx so much for this info!

          [Edit: Added: and +50 to bryan, above, for “Norma Desmond syndrome”]

    • jsolar13

      It’s always good to keep a picture of Norma handy for such occasions.

      • charemor

        Always.

      • Phillip in L.A.

        “I *am* big. It’s the *pictures* that got small.”

        –Norma Desmond [Gloria Swanson], in Billy Wilder’s Sunset Boulevard (1950) (Writen by: Charles Brackett, Billy Wilder, and D.M. Marshman, Jr.)

    • Steverino

      And it’s time to put his 15-minute close-up to an end.

  • BearEyes

    We must recognize Moore for what he is — a two-bit politician wrapped in judicial robes, a grasper and attention-seeker with delusions of grandeur,

    sing it loudly, Birmingham.

    • AdamTh

      I expect we will soon see Huckster, Frothy and a couple others make campaign stops in Alabama and endorse Moore.

      • bambinoitaliano

        And leave the moldy Kim Davies expiring in Rowan Kentucky?

        • Joseph Miceli

          I am not without mercy, even to those I despise. This is for Kim. She should apply it directly to the forehead.

    • lattebud

      And an uncaring hypocrite who has some questionable ethics, yet screams how is such a good Jesus-loving man.

  • AdamTh

    He should be removed from office & disbarred. Then he can set-up a webpage claiming to be another “persecuted christian” and collect millions… On the bright side, the rest of us might finally be rid of the sob.

  • oikos

    I have no illusions this asshat will quietly fade away. The good citizens of Alabama keep putting him back in office, bless their hearts.

    • OdieDenCO

      Let’s hope he doesn’t fade away as an object lesson of history. So when the next generation reads the history of this battle, Judge Roy Moore will stand out as Caligula does as an example of debauchery, as Torquemada does for cruelty, as Henry VIII does for adultery, as Wallace does for racism.

      • ChrisMorley

        Henry VIII was a serial adulterer, willing to divorce and execute the wives surplus to his requirements, but at least he had an excuse, his desperation to produce a male heir to the throne.

        Royals the world over are ruthless when it is about succession.

        • stuckinthewoods

          I wonder how history would have changed had it been known that only the father can donate a Y chromosome.

          • ChrisMorley

            Not much in Henry’s case. He had only one brother, Arthur, but Arthur was born after Henry succeeded to the throne and he died before Henry’s first wife was disposed of. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/henryviii/resources/family-tree.htm
            Royal ruthlessness was bad enough, knowledge of the Y chromosome would have increased the fatality rate for royal brothers.

          • Hank

            Actually, Arthur was Henry VIII’s OLDER brother, and was due to inherit the throne. He was Married to Catherine of Aragon, while both were teens. When Arthur died 6 months after their marriage, Henry VII did NOT want to lose Catharine’s dowery, so he re-married her to Henry. Henry VIII used it as his basis for trying to divorce Catherine, when she failed to give him a living male heir @ 20 years later. Henry, the “Defender of the Faith”, had been married to his brother’s widow and was being “cursed”.

          • RoFaWh

            “dowry”

          • Piet

            I’ve wondered about that turn of events for years. Isn’t there a Mosaic law about marrying your dead brother’s wife? Which Rome conveniently overlooked in this case . . . ?

          • TrollopeReader

            in Leviticus, I believe. Which “Christians” say no longer needs to be followed, as per Jesus. Except that pesky line they always seem to think is *still* relevant and abiding in God’s law, etc etc ….

          • Hank

            According to Judaic Law, a widow, who had no offspring, was “bound” to marry his brother, in order to continue the deceased’s lineage. Catherine of Aragon swore, that her marriage to Arthur had never been consummated due to Arthur’s poor health. So she was still a virgin, when she married Henry and therefore her marriage to Henry VIII was valid and they were never living in sin. Rome tried to side step the divorce, due to the power of Spain and her nephew Charles, the Emperor of The Holy Roman Empire (Austria-Hungary). Henry Vii made himself the head of the Catholic Church in England, in order to sidestep Rome and the Pope, and could continue with his divorce.

          • Capritaur

            Still the woman’s fault for producing stubborn eggs that don’t readily receive boy sperms.

        • OdieDenCo

          Moore’s excuse as well as Wallace’s and Torquemada’s is, God told him so. Caligula just did it for fun. Still doesn’t make it right.

          • ChrisMorley

            True. I wasn’t defending his actions.

        • Steverino

          If old King Harry were alive and transplanted to America today, it sounds like with his morals, he’d be right at home watching Fox News and voting Republican, and living in a trailer court rather than the palaces of the English royal court.

      • GayOldLady

        As Bull Connor does as a Jack Booted Segregationist.

      • Pepón

        He was not just an adulterer:
        During the reign of Henry VIII, between 1509 and 1547, a­n estimated 57,000 and 7­2,000 English subjects lost their heads. history.howstuffworks.com/historical-figures/10-henry-viii-executions.htm

        He was a bloody murderer, it’s just not as well known.

    • SFBruce

      His current term ends in 2018, at which time he’ll be 71 and ineligible to seek re-election. That could be changed, of course, but let’s hope hot. Even better would be if he’s booted off the bench before then because of all the crazy and improper crap he’s done, but they’ve diddled around for a year so I’m not holding my breath on that one.

  • bkmn

    When you are this anti-gay there is something more going on. I would not be surprised to find out at some point in time that he is a huge closet case.

    • Ninja0980

      He could be like my late and not so great neighbor as well, who just loved to talk about how sacred marriage was while he had a call girl on the side.

      • RoFaWh

        I hope you called him on his hypocrisy, preferably in front of his wife.

        • Ninja0980

          His wife finally did when she left him, after (her own admission) putting up with his crap for way too long.
          As for calling him out.. let’s just say I had to get in line.
          He was the neighborhood bully whose only good deed in life was kicking the bucket.

          • skeptical_inquirer

            I’m reminded of a story about a man who was so nasty that he was killed in broad day light and nobody would step forward to point at the killer, not because they were afraid of the killer but because they hated the man killed that much.

  • You are looking at the fault line in the Republican Party (and any media outlet in the State of Alabama not specifically owned by or geared to African Americans is Republican by definition). The nutjob wing of Judge Roy Moore, Governor Abbott of Texas, Ted Cruz et al., vs. the old chamber of commerce / country club Republican Wing of Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan, and Mitch McConnell. This war is destroying the GOP – and Donald Trump is picking up enough of the pieces to be the leading (for 6 months) candidate for President. It’s going to be a nasty war, and we are caught in the middle. Let’s hope sanity prevails soon and that Democrats can do things like start winning more state houses and congressional seats.

    • oikos

      Oh come on Eddi, everyone knows both parties are exactly the same. If we all just stay home and don’t vote, things will magically improve.

      • JT

        The golden silence of late is about to be broken.

      • Marides48

        I stay home & vote via mail. It beats waiting in line & I can totally ignore political ads after I drop my ballot in the post.

        • GC

          I’d like to see generous early voting, done in person, over several weekdays and weekends prior to election day.

          I don’t know how often vote buying or coercion actually happens with mail-in ballots, but going to a polling place preserves a truly secret ballot. A coercive boss or spouse, or anyone else who’d want to buy or force your vote, can’t see how you actually voted.

          • lymis

            And an in-person vote can’t get conveniently lost in the mail.

          • ChrisMorley

            But might be disqualified because of a ‘hanging chad’.

          • GC

            I’ve got to ask… is Chad cute and available? 🙂

          • GC

            I have to ask: is Chad cute and available? 🙂

          • RoFaWh

            You must have experience with Canada Post.

      • GayOldLady

        The Ratfucker should be along at any moment!

      • GC

        Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice…

      • GC

        Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice…

        But seriously, one of the furthest-reaching differences between the two major parties are who they’ll nominate to the Supreme Court (and other federal courts).

        I’ve written this before: Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 82. Anthony Kennedy is 79. Stephen Breyer is 77. I wish them long life and health, but don’t have any godlike powers to shield them from shit happening. We cannot afford more Alitos, Thomases, or Scalias on the bench.

        • oikos

          The court is really the only issue for this election.

          • ChrisMorley

            The rest of the world doesn’t have such a myopic focus on US politics. We pay the overseas price.

          • oikos

            The same douche nozzles that inflict damage overseas are the same ones we want to prevent stacking the SCOTUS here with RW hacks. It may seem myopic to you but RW policies here at home translate to the same abroad.

          • ChrisMorley

            You are correct. I apologise for not thinking it through carefully enough.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Wow. It is nice to see someone act in a mature manner when discussing something. That’s why I love this blog. Adults tend to congregate here. 🙂

          • charemor

            Amen to that! Great people respond here.

          • RoFaWh

            The guiding principle is “Don’t be afraid to admit you were wrong, don’t know, or made a mistake”.

            Doing so online brings credibility to your postings.

          • TrollopeReader

            and, if you don’t know, don’t post as if you think you did know! 🙂

            (the general ‘you’, not you!)

          • GC

            It’s the issue that can make our lives far better, or far worse, for decades after a particular president or set of congresscritters leave office.

          • Seating a Supreme Court Judge is a president’s true legacy.

        • Phillip in L.A.

          Remember kids, the President appoints all federal judges, not just Supreme Court justices (“with the Advice and Consent of the Senate”–at least for Article III judges),

      • BudClark

        /s

      • Joseph Miceli

        I think he’s on vacay or something. I’ve seen one or two posts by him that everyone ignores and … bored … I guess he just drifts away. The quiet has been very, very nice.

        • oikos

          Good to hear. 🙂

    • Ninja0980

      Sad to say but the DNC ignored Howard Dean’s wisdom about state and local races and gave him the boot.
      Now they see how right he was, but sadly too little too late.

    • RoFaWh

      The GOP is already a writeoff. The question is when, where, and by whom will a new party arise to fill the vacuum.

  • JT
    • hudson11

      damn, In Living Color was sooooooo much better than SNL ever was.

    • Ray

      That looks more like a Around-The-World-And-Back-Snap.

  • dcurlee

    Damn baby. Would loved to see his expression when he read that

  • Ninja0980

    He isn’t delusional at all.
    He is simply a bigoted asshole who thinks this country should be a theocracy, which is why he was removed from the bench.

    • Chucktech

      AND why he was put back on the bench.

      • …by equally bigoted asshole Alabama voters. Not all of ’em, obviously, but a voting majority. Which is appalling to consider.

    • RoFaWh

      There may be no difference between “delusional” and “bigoted asshole”.

      Unfortunately, I’m not a philosopher and am unqualified to expatiate on the more subtle implications of that equivalence.

      • Phillip in L.A.

        “I’m not a philosopher”

        Ah, but you are, Blanche, you are.

  • JT

    Being “of presidential timber” in this case would mean having a wooden head that presides over decisions.

    • GC

      We’ve had presidents like that….

  • delk

    L O L

    Charitably, we could say that Moore saw an obscure Kentucky clerk get 15 more minutes of attention a few months ago, when her state removed the clerk’s names from marriage licenses to assuage the thrice-divorced woman’s concerns for “the sanctity of marriage.” If anyone is going to be the poster child for anti-gay bigotry on this issue, Moore is determined it will be him, not her.

    • Thrice divorced, plus mother to child by future-but-not-current father.

      • Bj Lincoln

        Must not forget the child out of wedlock.

        • bambinoitaliano

          And the doglifter of a child. Bad seeds all around.

          • People4Humanity

            WTF ever happened to Charlie Brown?

          • bambinoitaliano

            He live miserably ever after.

  • Imagine if he were Governor, President or Supreme Court justice how he’d rail against any insubordination.

    • Silver Badger

      Under most of the Republican candidates he could well be appointed to the Supreme Court.

  • Isn’t thie timed to compete with his son’s legal headlines?

  • JustSayin’

    I think we all need to make sure we remember a couple things.

    First I completely support, enjoy, and participate in the bagging on Douchenozzle Moore.

    but the rest of the state supreme court as well as the state judicial ethics review board are also at fault.

    for over a year both have sat on complaints filed against him. The Judicial Ethics board has the ability to remove him and in fact did so before in the 10 commandments case. .

    Those cognizant asshats refuse to act and remove Moore that makes them complicit in his attacks on the United States and her citizens.

    • ChrisMorley

      True, but last time they removed him the electors put Moore straight back in the job. Their reluctance to try again is wrong, but understandable with such an electoral majority.

    • Ninja0980

      Not just him but Justice Tom Parker as well.
      How the hell can someone not be forced to recuse himself from hearing cases brought by the very hate group he founded.

    • People4Humanity

      Cannot Judge Moore be removed by impeachment?

      • Phillip in L.A.

        Yes. Section 173 of the Alabama Constitution provides in pertinent part that:

        “justices of the supreme
        court may be removed from office for willful neglect of duty, corruption
        in office, incompetency, or intemperance in the use of intoxicating
        liquors or narcotics to such an extent, in view of the dignity of the
        office and importance of its duties, as unfits the officer for the
        discharge of such duties, or for any offense involving moral turpitude
        while in office, or committed under color thereof, or connected
        therewith, by the senate sitting as a court of impeachment, under oath
        or affirmation, on articles or charges preferred by the house of
        representatives.”

        (The Alabama Constitution has 772 Amendments, and I did not read through those.)

  • Bj Lincoln

    The comments at the paper are fun.

    • I see that you are in there going all Crouching Tiger on the the bigots, it’s fun to see how you knock them down quicker than they are deleted for terms of service violations. (Or the original poster tucking tail, I’m not sure which.) Carry on!

    • Joseph Miceli

      Ooooo! Off to read. What fun!

  • DirtyPierre

    Its time to remove the “under God” phrase from the books.

  • M Jackson

    ..

  • John T

    He’s not delusional. He’s a canny politician who knows exactly what his bitter, spiteful, uneducated constituents want and he gives it to them. Alabama voters are delusional. Fuck that state, I will never step foot there as long as I live.

  • Michael Hampton

    And yet the people of that state keep electing Moore to office. So, their cries of “He’s awful!” fall on deaf ears.

  • DesertSun59

    He’s still in office because the MAJORITY of Alabama citizens totally and completely agree with him. After all, he was ousted and yet came back; and was placed in their highest justice position after his ousting.

  • Gigi

    They should have showed him the door a long time ago.

  • ExGayTherapyKills

    Whenever the people get more freedom the nut jobs come out to try and stop the people from getting their freedoms.

  • bob

    That’s good , until the morons that keep voting for him put him in another position .

    • TrollopeReader

      Yes, he really wants to be governor.

  • Bryan

    I think “he is wrong in seeing himself as of presidential timbre,” but yes, “he is wrong in thinking that he matters.”

    • People4Humanity

      That irritated me, too.

  • LovesIrony

    I hope he’s not forgotten but remembered like Wallace is remembered. May a legacy of bigotry haunt you and yours, roy.

    • TrollopeReader

      Wallace’s daughter wrote this (same paper) yesterday:

      Wallace’s daughter: Roy Moore is more dangerous than my father
      “The politics of my father and Moore may be worthy of comparison on
      issues of their character and failure to commit to protecting the civil
      rights of all, but Moore is the more powerful of the two, for he and his
      brethren on the bench have the right to have the last word. The first
      plaque that southern civil rights lawyers hang on the wall just beneath
      their diploma reads “thank God for the federal courts.” The notion that
      only the federal courts are competent to protect the civil liberties of
      Alabamians is unconscionable. The citizens of Alabama are entitled to
      better.”

      http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/01/wallaces_daughter_roy_moore_is.html

  • KnownDonorDad

    Roy Moore is like a less appealing version of Judge Valkenheiser.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_r-fur3Zr0

  • bobbyjoe

    That editorial’s wrong, though. Moore doesn’t just want attention. He wants to divert attention away from his son’s seventh drug arrest in five years. In that sense, the editorial does Moore’s work for him, as it doesn’t mention it.

    The Obergefell decision was over six months ago. Moore could have released his stupid order a long time ago. But when does he release it? Exactly a day after the Associated Press begins reporting on Moore’s son’s latest arrest. Ummmmm huh.

    It’s pretty clear why Moore wants to change the conversation. And he wants to use us to do so. So as well- intentioned as that editorial is, it would be more effective if it did the one thing Moore doesn’t want the press to be doing: prominently mention Moore’s son’s repeated arrests while asking why someone who’s been arrested seven times in five years isn’t in jail.

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      I’ve tried to comment on al.com along those lines, ie saying that Moore is doing this as a distraction for his son’s drug arrests…. those comments got deleted.

      • People4Humanity

        Oooooh. You BAD BOY.

        Come to papa for your bare-butt spankin’!

        • RoFaWh

          Tell us what happens after the spankee has been thoroughly spanked.

          • People4Humanity

            Come sit in my lap, and I’ll whisper the answer into your ear.

        • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

          Yes, Sir! Daddy, Sir! Please and thank you.

      • Necessitas

        I’d like to hope that they are saving that angle for their next editorial on the subject. That may be an unrealistic hope, time will tell.

        • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

          I’m not sure if an editor removed it or if it gets removed when a number of people flag it.

  • People4Humanity
  • SFHarry

    Though nicely stated they could have also added that he brings the loss of respect and ridicule of the entire world down on Alabama was well as losing business opportunities because people are wary of dealing with perceived backwoods yokels.

  • chris james

    The State of Alabama better start saving it’s pennies to settle all the lawsuits the erratic system of judges is creating. Turning away gay couples is going to cost them big bucks and I will await the results of all the lawsuits. Time to stock up on popcorn.

  • Rocco

    Couldn’t have said it better myself….& it’s better coming from his neighbors.

  • Gianni

    He is a master at repeatedly offering his state up to ridicule.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    Wow! The Editorial Board was on a roll! Good for them!

  • TheSpinMonkey

    bad father (drug addicted son) idiot lawyer and horrible supreme court appointee. He needs treatment

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    • Necessitas

      Here words have power. Thanks for posting the link!

  • Necessitas

    They basically called him everything short of a disease, and that was implied.

  • Terry

    Moore is nothing more than a grandstanding buffoon

  • Glen

    How do these people reconcile their ‘god’ failing them at every turn?