Hate Group Leader Tony Perkins Is Furious After Frontrunner Donald Trump Blows Off Duggar Fest 2015

Remember a couple of weeks ago when Donald Trump tweeted a reach-around to Tony Perkins, prompting Perkins to tweet back a Jedi mind trick about Trump confirming for the Values Voter Summit? Well, get ready for the Fundies Vs Trump cage match to ramp up even more, because Trump is definitely NOT going to this year’s Duggar Fest. And wow, Tony Perkins is ever so pissed. The Christian Post reports:

FRC President Tony Perkins has informed The Christian Post that Trump, the current frontrunner among Republican presidential candidates, will not be attending FRC’s Sept. 25-27 Values Voters Summit, even though other leading Republican candidates are scheduled to speak. Although some polls have shown that the misogynistic real estate mogul who once favored abortion and carries liberal views on same-sex marriage has had no trouble gaining the support of Evangelicals, Perkins asserted that Trump’s refusal to speak at the conference is a sign that he has no interest in conversing with Evangelicals.

“We have got the Values Voters Summit coming up and Donald Trump has passed. He is not going to come,” Perkins said. “I think that is going to send a message to Evangelicals and values voters that he wants their support, but he is not really interested in having a conversation with them.” “I think that is probably about the time, in about three or four weeks, people are going to start thinking more seriously about this as we move forward into the year,” Perkins continued. “[Trump’s absense], whether it was intended to or not, it will send a message.” “I think [Trump] is going to have to have conversations with Evangelicals and talk about issues they care about. He hasn’t really done that in a way that is convincing,” Perkins argued. “Could [Trump] make some progress with Evangelicals? I think he could if he tried, but I don’t really see that happening right now.”

The bolding is mine. Snork! The only other GOP candidates that are also blowing off Duggar Fest are George Pataki and Jim Gilmore, both of whom are polling at under 1%.  The cable networks usually run blanket coverage of the Values Voter Summit. It would be a extra delicious if Trump were to siphon off a large chunk of that with another one of his outrage-inducing stunts.

  • j.martindale

    I am beginning to enjoy trump–as an entertainer, not a politician.

    • another_steve

      He does have an incredible knack of knowing how to work a crowd. The pundits have been observing and noting that.

      Plus, having worked in government myself — partly in PR — I know what a skill it is to artfully dodge questions and “answer the question that wasn’t asked.”

      Trump does all of that masterfully.

    • JW Swift

      I continue to find my reaction to every time he’s on TV or whatever, simply to roll my eyes and shake my head.

      My fear is that with every insulting comment he makes, it gives people permission to act that way, themselves. At least a quarter of the Rethuglican Party seems to feel that it’s OK to be a knee-jerk, misogynistic blow-hard and bully, and that it would be a good idea to run the entire country this way.

      • j.martindale

        You are right. He isn’t a healthy phenomenon for the body politic. I don’t foresee this going on for long. If it does, it is a baaaad thing.

    • Soren456

      He’s beginning to remind me of Rasputin.

  • I’m really beginning to love this guy.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    It bothers me that they call themselves “values” voters. Bigotry, Hate, Inequality, Misogyny. These are values?????????????

    • Gustav2

      Just not American values.

      • Henri205

        Unfortunately they are values for a large number of Americans.

        • Ginger Snap

          Sickening isn’t it.

    • Sam_Handwich

      don’t forget forced births, greed and war !

      • Paula

        Is there pillaging? I like pillaging.

        • AtticusP

          Word is that they raped Thrace thrice…

          I certainly wouldn’t put it past THESE bastards.

        • Mark

          I like plundering, personally….

          • Paula

            Yes, it has its benefits.

          • Yeah, but the cannons don’t thunder, there’s nothing to plunder and I’m an over 40 victim of fate.

          • Mark

            Well, we can create our own plundering – I personally like cannons and trumpets and hell, I’m over 60! lol

        • John ‘Genryu’

          There was that incident with a library or somesuch in Alexandria.

        • Joseph Miceli

          I’ve often said I’d like to be described as an “ass pillager.”
          On to pillage!!!!!!!

      • Brian in Valdosta

        And fatherhood rights for rapists. Don’t forget about that.

    • RJ Tremor

      Yes, because they repackage them in a pretty little display of godly superiority based on Bible verses that support their bias. It doesn’t matter if the world likes it or not, because the world is a Godless, evil place that will disparage them for their views, a fact that vindicates every sinister move they make. *Makes gratuitous use of the edit button*

    • AtticusP

      Well, nobody ever said that they weren’t SHITTY values…

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        • MDB

          Flagged !

    • thesunnysideofthestreet

      Christian values at their finest!

    • ScottJL

      Just not values most people.. umm.. value.

    • Raising_Rlyeh
    • Yep, the religious kind of values, that they umm value!

    • Gest2016

      Sponsored by the FRC, dedicated to destroying and attacking families and promoting genocide world-wide. The only true “value” the sociopath Tony Perkins holds is that of the dollar.

      • Joseph Miceli

        Pile of dead gay kids, Tony?

    • Rand503

      And we all know who will get star treatment.
      “Miss Davis, you sit right there.”

      • robirob

        If she isn’t in prison by then again.

    • Steverino

      These are the people Orwell warned us about.

    • JT
      • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

        Values voters need to have their values re-affirmed

        • vorpal

          “Values Voters” are the ones who believe that Jesus’ most admirable display was throwing the tables and chasing the money lenders out of the table. They just freaking LOVE that story because that’s the Christ they want to be like.

          • Shy Guy

            It’s just a bit ironic that they don’t realize that they’re the money lenders.

    • Cuberly

      Well, White Supremacists United for Theocracy & Oligarchy doesn’t come off particularly well.

    • David Walker

      Values? You betcha, girlie girl. Why, them’s Murkan values at they best. You just thinkin’ of them words the way them damn libruls redefined ’em. You go back to the real def’nitions o them words and, hell, girlie girl, you got the real hardcore Murkan values. (/s)

    • bambinoitaliano

      The values of their incest, molestation, pedophilia, enslaving women, racism, bigotry, greed, grifting, scamming and everything representing the worst of human species.

    • Nic Peterson

      Christ-shun values!

    • Strepsi

      It bothers me MORE that every election they get almost every Republican candidate… they’re an extreme Christian hate group!

      (the only one who did not attend last time was Romney, who knows Evangelicals hate Mormons — Romney was also, ironically, the only remotely electable one.)

    • geoffalnutt

      The modern Repiglicon party!

    • Mark

      And, of course, duggaring. And AM accounts.

  • Pollos Hermanos
    • another_steve

      Oh are you old enough to remember that wonderful show, PH?

      It was so wonderfully campy that I remember thinking at the time, “Surely, no straight man is involved in the writing of this TV show….”

      • b

        It was a pro-gay show. Unlike Lost In Space. That one really did a number on me.

        • another_steve

          “Lost in Space” was incredibly campy and featured several hot men.

          I took Professor John Robinson and Major Don West to bed with me after every episode.

          • Leo Tallant

            You could not have taken John Robinson (Guy Williams) to bed. I got to him first after every episode! 😉

        • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

          The Dr. Smith character was very strange for the time. It was weirdly a negative homophobic stereotype, and yet kind of a clown like Jack on ‘Will & Grace’, and then again he was really Will Robinson’s and the robot’s best friend. Very strangely complex for the time, especially how he evolved over time (Dr. Smith was a sinister villain in the pilot episode).

          And of course, they could never say he was gay back then, which led to the supremely absurd episode where he gets seduced by a green alien lady floating outside the Jupiter 2 saying “Pretty, pretty Dr. Smith.” Even as a kid who didn’t know anything about being gay, I knew that Dr. Smith would never really fall for that.

    • TheManicMechanic

      Some days it’s just fun to show up here and peruse all the new popcorn-eating pics and gifs.

  • Sam_Handwich

    politically, it’s not very smart on his part

    unless, as Joe notes, he decides to hijack attention away from the jamboree with a stunt of his own

    • Cuberly

      Well it’s about ratings:
      Evangelical Fingerwagging: [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
      Trump being an out of control douche: [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[snap]

    • AtticusP

      I like to think it’s because Trump has calculated that the Christian Reich isn’t as big or as important a voting bloc as they seem to think they are.

      • David L. Caster

        Exactly. He, like many others, realize they are a tiny group and getting smaller. They are noisy and well organized, but in the final analysis, where are they going to go? Best to let them fume because right now they can only hurt his chances in a general election and they don’t look like they are going to turn into a problem in the primaries. I can’t wait for him to refer to Perkins and the rest as “losers”—and he should!

        • Reality.Bites

          Canada’s Conservative Party learned that a while ago and have been in power since 2006 as a result.

          Abortion? “I’m not going to touch it and I’m going to do everything I can to make sure any bill trying to hint at potentially somehow ever limiting it is defeated.”

          Marriage? It’s over.

          Gut Medicare? Are you fucking kidding?

          (Still a good chance they’re going down to defeat in the upcoming election)

          • bambinoitaliano

            Still did not stop them pushing back every chance they get. It’s the oppositions to lose this fall. It’s divided votes that might put this assholes in power again.

          • David L. Caster

            Right, because the Harper government tried to follow the US GOP in their determination to eliminate all social programs that actually benefit the people that live in Canada. The US-GOP strain of “conservatism” is contagious and it takes time to recover from it.

        • AtticusP

          Tony P. has committed the ultimate mortal sin: he has criticized the Donald.

          Retribution will be swift.

          (And delicious…)

          • David L. Caster

            I can hardly wait.

    • ColdCountry

      It wouldn’t surprise me at all.

    • Todd20036

      Actually it’s pretty smart on his part. Much of his base doesn’t always agree with hm but loves how brazen he is

      • Sam_Handwich

        i think he will alienate more of the GOP base than he will attract moderates and indies

        and that’s just fine. it’s exactly what the GOP needs to go through to become a relevant party again.

        but in the short term, i don’t think he’s doing himself any favors

    • Homo Erectus

      Would you rather watch Donald or Toni?

  • planetwingnuttia

    Oh just y’all wait till the next Mike Huckabee story comes out..I’m shaking my head. no freaking words but a opened mouth and gasping.

  • Gustav2

    The dumbasses think when Republicans say to pollsters they are Evangelicals it means they actually go to church!

  • m_lp_ql_m

    Trump does not have “liberal views on same-sex marriage.” He’s simply not rabid about it.

    • RJ Tremor

      He doesn’t care, and they don’t like that, because they can’t steer the boat as a result.

  • DaddyRay

    Is it possible to overdose on popcorn

    • Sam_Handwich

      Redenbacher syndrome

      symptoms include: incessant flossing, bloating and butter breath

    • another_steve

      Prepare yourself for when Kim Davis finishes her commune with Jesus and goes back to work.

      I fear JMG’s server won’t be able to handle it.

      • People4Humanity

        Joe’s new server is a water-cooled stainless steel tower.

        • DaddyRay

          I think Joe might want to take some extra precautions for the power spike

          • David L. Caster

            Those potato batteries would be more suitable for use as a UPS.

    • Octavio

      If you’re a raccoon.

    • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

      Invest now in popcorn futures. At the rate they’re going, it’ll be rarer than platinum by December.

  • AtticusP

    If only Orville Redenbacher were alive today to see the ongoing great success of his product…

  • Judas Peckerwood

    Schism! Schism!

    • Cuberly

      Gesundheit.

  • Joe in PA

    has had no trouble gaining the support of Evangelicals. Just goes to show you what a little racism will do. Rather telling I’d say: call Mexicans criminals and rapists etc, boom, support from the Evangelicals.

    Who’d a thunk it? /s

  • Sam_Handwich

    hahaha…speaking of the donald

    just in

    https://twitter.com/TPM/status/642093994638315520

    • Joe in PA

      Oh FFS, if THAT was a problem for them…Rand Ferret Head Paul would have been out a long time ago.

    • RJ Tremor

      Dot. Dot. Dot.

    • People4Humanity

      Wait! What have they done with the caucasian Piyush?

      • another_steve

        The “Michael Jackson Skin Bleaching Corporation of America” has frantically been ringing Jindal every day.

        He’s not answering their calls.

    • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

      It’s either a ferret, a giant caterpillar or a chupacabra, Bobby, but we’ve already established it’s not a squirrel..

      • Robincho

        Yeah, we established that about, what, 73 years ago? It takes Gunga Dim a while to catch on…

    • Cuberly

      OMG!

      Hahahahahahaha….just wow.

  • marycigarettes

    he’s looking more like liberace every day

  • AtticusP

    Reince Priebus probably hasn’t had a good night’s sleep in months.

    Good.

  • another_steve

    Trump being pragmatic (or at least moving in that direction) is a sign that he and his handlers are seriously thinking in terms of him being the Republican candidate in November 2016.

  • OMG. This will rob the V.V.S. of all credibility! If they can’t get the big cheese, all the other dweebs will just look pathetic by comparison. And if not showing doesn’t harm him in the Republican polls, it will make them look like the toothless posturers they are.

    Donald, I hate you but this is so much fun right now.

    • b

      I am starting to like the Donald. He does not answer to anyone but himself. Authentic.

    • John Masters

      It will be very interesting to see if the teavangical votes shift any away from Trump for not showing up…but I don’t think many people besides the attendees pay much attention to it…even evangelicals. And there are no “conversations” with values voters. They come in the back door, give their speech, leave out the back door. Giving a sermon is not a conversation.

      • Cuberly

        At the article there’s a whole tens of comments on the story. So even when they report it its barely making a ripple.

      • vorpal

        You could drive a train through the blinders that they have where Trump is concerned.

  • Scott_Lumry

    I will make a suggestion to the Trump campaign. Schedule your own event two blocks away and call it the “American Values Summit” and warm up the event with Franklin Graham.

    • MrSkippy

      He should call it the “Trump Values Summit” so that he can freely say all the insane shit he wants to say and get away with it.

      • People4Humanity

        ^up^vote^ for cat/shark/penguin avatar

      • ColdCountry

        He’s not doing that already?

      • Steve Teeter

        He’d need other speakers. Who would they be?

        • robirob

          Sarah Palin, duh!

        • clay

          Why? Isn’t Trump already the summit of American business-man-hood?

        • MrSkippy

          I feel like you’re trying to set me up for some good one liners here. Let’s see if I can manage:

          Other speakers? You think Donald listens to anyone but himself?

          Other speakers? Well, there’s his hair, his ego and his personality.

          Other speakers? You think there will be enough time for other people to talk after he gets done calling Fiorina a “Horse Faced Donkey” Carson an “adequate doctor” and Bush a “Boring Mexican wannabe”?

          Other speakers? He and Palin could do another gratuitous hand job on stage maybe?

    • LovesIrony

      nah, strippers and skantilly clad cheerleaders with huge boobs. tony’s hate rally speaker will echo in the vacuum

  • Phaius

    Perkins calling Trump “misogynistic” THAT’S RICH!

    • Sam_Handwich

      it looks like that was the “Christian Post”, not Perkins, calling him that

      • Rand503

        There is a difference?

        • David Walker

          “Christian Post” has better interns. You can just tell that that intern was just waiting to use that word.

  • Rob NYNY

    A friend of mine said something funny today about another friend who is famous for his tardiness: “He’s constantly late for appointments. He’s late more often than Michelle Duggar’s period.”

  • ColdDesert

    I love that this is becoming Republican Business Loudmouths vs. Republican Christian Loudmouths

  • Cuberly

    It’s BEUuuuuTIfuLLL!!!!!!!!

    http://gifs.chrisarcand.com/happy-cat.gif

    • Sam_Handwich

      omgcat on crack!

      • Cuberly

        Toni’s tears are fierce hallucinogens.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Lol !
      What is the story behind that cat?? First time in a car??

      • MDB

        She saw her first life-size poster of Donald Trump go by on a passing bus.

        • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

          I wonder if a real cat has ever tried to catch the thing on his head.

      • prjoe

        Looks like my cat Mikey when I’m a nanosecond late in serving him his breakfast.

  • AtticusP

    Tony PerKKKins, just face it: the Donald doesn’t need to kiss your ass.

    He’s YOOOUUGE!! YOOOUUGE, I tell you.

  • anne marie in philly

    poor tony duggar baloney duggar – NOT! bwhahahahahahahaha!

  • geoffalnutt

    Gad. I snorked so hard I knocked over the lamp, Stop it Donald!! This is dangerously funny!!!

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      … not a hurricane lamp one hopes!
      Those have burned down more than one barn.

  • Secure

    “I think [Trump] is going to have to have conversations with Evangelicals and talk about issues they care about.”

    But Tony – it’s the Evangelical candidates who keep COMPLAINING they DO NOT want to talk social issues with the press! Even though they want to pass Constitutional Amendments…

    • clay

      Well, Cruz (and his father and his superPAC head) and Hucksterbee do tend to bring those issues up all by themselves.

  • Harley

    I think the Talibangelicals are finally showing their hand in that they are a small percentage of republican voters and I think the voters are having enough of it.

  • thesunnysideofthestreet

    As much as I despise the Trump, he occasionally does something that makes sense.

    • Reality.Bites

      I know – it’s fucking annoying is what it is. He’s turned into (not surprisingly) a reality show villain, who you hate but love watching.

      • AtticusP

        It’s truly like going to dinner with a four-year-old: you never know what’s going to come out of his mouth.

        • Jonathan

          Except Brussels Sprouts. You can pretty much guarantee those will come out of his mouth.

          • AtticusP

            I hate to admit it, but I’m with the four-year-old on that one!

        • thesunnysideofthestreet

          What a horrible thing to say about four-year-olds. They make way more sense that Trump.

          • Homo Erectus

            But Trump makes more sense than the rest of the klown kar at times.

  • Ha!!!! That’s great honestly some of the other GOP candidates would do well to ditch it as well, the evangelicals already have Huckabee or Cruz so everyone else would do better just leaving the anti-gay voters in their own little world.

  • JustSayin’

    Damn it tRump ! You were supposed to wait until November to spin off as an Independent! You are going rogue on HRCs diabolical pa!n to become president! / there’s some snark in there someplace.

  • KCMC

    “God given wisdom, ” -Trump supporter to NBC cam.

    • BearEyes

      I saw that and the hubby and I just looked at each other in total incredulity. WTF is wrong with these “people”?

      • KCMC

        out of popcorn and words.

    • another_steve

      Put yourself in his supporters’ shoes (if you can stand it).

      A TV reality show celebrity who has earned so much money that he can conduct a Presidential campaign on his own dime.

      Not a “politician.” Not someone who is suave and sophisticated and smooth with the tongue.

      It must be Jesus.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Interviewer: Mr Trump, what do you have to say now that Tony PerKKKins has called you out for ditching his Value Voters Summit??
    Trump: Tony is a pathetic, whiny, little baby. What a loser!! And that face! I mean, it just screams child diddler and hypocritical pervert. He’s got too much luggage, and I’m no luggage lifter for FRC. Tony, you’re FIRED!

    • Homo Erectus

      Duggar!

  • Tor

    I think FRC is about to find out it is no longer important to the presidential race.

    • BearEyes

      and that would be a good thing.

      • Honestly if it is shown that you cannot go and still do well I think you will see even fewer people go the next time around. The truth is that these days the anti-gays bark is worse than their bite and GOP candidates don’t need their support to run.

        • theblacktie

          The Evangelical base is a dwindling concern and they think they are more influential than they are. So trump who isn’t one is smart to avoid it. Frankly the less religious the politician the better.

    • Homo Erectus

      How many christians d’ya suppose have gone to glory in the last 4 years?

      • Snarkaholic

        According to my research, approximately 6,775 Americans die each day. Approx. 83% of Americans (according to one survey) identify as Christians…so: 6,775 – 17% = 5,623 x 365 days = 2,052,395 x 4 = 8,209,580 + 1 extra day for Leap Year = 8,215,203.

        • Homo Erectus

          According to your calculations, that number is larger than the entire population of 38 states, about equal to the total population of the 9 smallest states combined. No wonder Toni is worried!

  • Octavio

    All Trump has to do to neutralize any bad press with the evangelicals is to announce he’s not attending because he refuses to associate with known Ku Klux Klan sympathizers. He’ll suddenly get a bunch of Dems shooting him up in the polls.

    • David L. Caster

      Yeah, that’s it exactly. If trump starts talking like a progressive from a “true” conservative standpoint, he could be really dangerous all around.

      This could get very interesting.

  • Mike C

    He doesn’t need them because he doesn’t dog whistle the racism, and he’s definitely locked the racist vote. That’s what the “evangelical vote” has always been code for anyway – it’s the plain old-fashioned Southern Strategy by a different name.

  • Paul Forsyth

    I’m no Trump fan. But anyone who pisses of Perkins is alright by me. LOL! Again not a Trump fan.

  • Dutchboy74
  • What a year!
    We win the right to marry!
    NOM finally coughs up their Maine donor lists {what an embarrassment that list was- 6!!!}.
    NOM has become obsolete.
    The Duggar’s went down in a flames, and lost their show.
    The vast majority of American’s are for LGBT’s right to marry who ever they wish.
    Miss Multi Marriage Kim doesn’t have the popular support the extreme right thought.

    And finally, the years of Perkkkin’s being able to wield a huge stick over candidates is OVER!!!

    Damn! Life is nice over the rainbow, Dorothy was right!

    • Sam_Handwich

    • BearEyes

      Tony’s still gonna wave his stick for a bit longer.

      • Is that its called now? I thought it was called flashing.

    • Sam_Handwich
      • Sorry, but to me only two people can sing this song and do it justice. Miss Judy naturally. And IZ.

        https://youtu.be/V1bFr2SWP1I

        • LovesIrony

          this was the played at our reception

        • BlueberriesForMe

          If you haven’t heard Eva Cassidy sing, you should definitely check her out (not just “OTR”).

          • DaddyRay

            That was the first time I heard her sing and after listening to a few more songs I immediately went and bought the Song Bird album

          • I have and I don’t enjoy her singing at all. Sorry.

        • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

          IZ’s version gives me goosebumps every time.

      • AtticusP

        What a talent! Gone far too soon.

        Yet Ted Nugent still draws breath.

        Definitive proof: there is no God.

      • shrpblnd

        I have always been partial to Tori Amos version of Somewhere Over the Rainbow as well.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB2I5refJec

      • Pollos Hermanos
    • DaddyRay

      GOP version of the Wizard of Oz

      • Homo Erectus

        ..

        • DaddyRay

          Love where the lion got his courage

        • Spray on abs

          Love this soo much. Where is it from?

          • Homo Erectus

            I have no idea. If it’s funny enough to make me spray coffee on my monitor I’ll save it.

    • Reality.Bites

      Dorothy couldn’t wait to get back to Kansas and watch her dog be put down by Miss Gulch.

      • Snarkaholic

        The version I saw had the alternate ending: her dog was stolen by Kim Davis’s evil family.

        • clay

          Gulch was Kim Davis’s maternal grandmother’s maiden name.

    • clay

      and NC’s religious exemption law is about to implode, too, so we also get to see the beginning of the end of those (between NC, AZ and Indiana).

      • Yes!! I hope this is fought all the way to SCOTUS where it will go down in flames.

        Did you see where the Satanic Temple is suing Missouri on their abortion rules? Its just to delicious as they are claiming the laws surrounding the 72 grace period are religious in nature and goes against the Satanic Temples religious beliefs!
        http://www.startribune.com/missouri-asks-judge-to-toss-satanic-group-s-abortion-suit/326018701/

        • Glen

          That’s a good way to fight these religious claims.

          Just demonstrate to them what it means to allow ‘religious’ claims to be made as it pertains to the law.

  • Necessitas

    If Tony Perkins the Ku Klux Klown says Trump can’t win, then prepare for his inevitable victory.

    • Silver Badger

      Only in the Republican party please.

      • Necessitas

        My hope as well. But, yeah, he’s got that in the bag. Usually, I’d say unless he says something really stupid, but that doesn’t apply in Trump’s case as the more ignorant and insulting he gets, the more popular he becomes with the ignorant.

  • MDB

    Maybe Donald could just host some Bikini Gator Wrasslin’

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KZVvs_zrnU

    • another_steve

      I assume that as is, that video has gotten 150,000 views.

      If, however, the alligator were to snap off her left tit, she’d get 5 million views.

      • I’d give her left tit to see that.

        • Phil

          The animal’s tail is also very dangerous – it can shatter bones, or damage organs.

    • WNY

      Well that isn’t really all that brave or impressive given that the alligator’s mouth is taped shut. It is basically just harassing/abusing a defenseless animal.

  • prjoe

    Evangelicals? I prefer to call them “evangenitals” since that’s all they ever seem to think about – someone else’s that is.

    • Steverino

      I like to call them “evilgenitals” for much the same reason. But I like your term better.

  • LovesIrony

    Oh, tony, david duke is still your bff and he’s available. He’s sure to get the attendees cheering

  • MattM

    Looks like Tony has just come face-to-face with his future irrelevance. If a Republican front-runner doesn’t need his impotent rage rally to get votes, then Tony’s gravy train/source of attention is beginning to wither.
    Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.

    • Cuberly

      I don’t want to read to much into this, but it is enticing. And the Davis thing made for some huge cracks in the evangelical relevance facade. I mean even conservatives that would have lapped this shit up less than 2-3 years ago bailed on backing her.

      Maybe Trump paid for some serious analysis and focus group testing and to a fault the result was the evangelicals are weighing the GOP/TP down. If so he’s breaking out of an established mold that’s been in place for decades.

      I don’t know, but if that’s the case. Wow.

      • Reality.Bites

        Perhaps – and I’m just throwing this out there – they lapped it up because they thought they could actually stop it from rolling out nationally. No matter how much you might hate us, it’s clear that Kim Davis can’t accomplish a damn thing. A complete victory for her would simply have resulted in two or three couples driving over to the next county. Yes, it was important for us to win and nip it in the bud, but there was no way this was ever going to mushroom into an end to nationwide marriage equality – and if it couldn’t, what was the bloody point?

        • robirob

          I think some idiots are hoping for a snowball effect where others follow her lead.

          But what these idiots don’t get is that they highlight the fact that it’s them who want the special rights (Our discrimination against gays should not get us thrown in jail like everybody else who hold the court in contempt!) when they constantly accuse the gay community of demanding special rights.

    • Homo Erectus

      My sediments exactly.

  • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

    O/T but Joe, why have I been getting all kinds of ads for websites that advertise Chinese women for “dating” and ads for Liberty University online courses? I will swear in court that nothing in my cookies or browsing history would lead one to believe I am interested in Liberty University or dating women.

    • Octavio

      Adblock.com It’s a wonderful thing.

      • I finally broke down and installed it because the video ads would hijack my screen from wherever I was reading and take up me to the top of the page. And the pause on them never worked either…

        • BearEyes

          I got fed up with that shit too. I resisted for a long time, but those were just too much.

        • Octavio

          You have done a wonderful thing. Without Adblock we are all at greater risk of losing control because of malare and pernicious hackers. It does more than just block ads. 🙂

      • zhera

        I wanted to be nice to Joe and white-list JMG on Adblock. Had to stop that when my computer just froze over and over.

        Sorry, Joe! It’s the graphics card or something. It thinks we’re in 1997.

    • William

      I used to get ‘Women over 50 want to meet you’. I never did figure out why they wanted to.

  • Blobby

    “[Trump’s absense], whether it was intended to or not….”

    A. Tony – spell check helps greatly.
    B. It’s not like Trump got sick 2+ weeks in advance. It IS intended. But nice way to cover yourself in case he does win the nomination.

    • Reality.Bites

      You’re misreading the sentence. He’s not suggesting the absence may have been unintended he was suggesting the message may have been.

      “[Trump’s absence], whether it was intended to or not, it will send a message.”

      Or phrased better,

      Trump’s absence, will send a message, whether it was intended to or not.

  • MDB

    O/T but this news was lost in all of the noise about Saint Kimee.

    Presbyterian Church(USA) Louisville national offices hosts first same-gender wedding – Service marks a milestone in the Presbyterian Center’s history of nuptials

    SEPTEMBER 4, 2015

    Paul Kempf and Robb Gwaltney (center l and r) exchange vows at the Presbyterian Center Chapel in Louisville. At the same time a Kentucky county clerk was being jailed for her refusal to issue marriage licenses to same-gender couples, Paul Kempf and Robb Gwaltney said their vows in the Presbyterian Center chapel yesterday.

    http://www.pcusa.org/site_media/media/uploads/news/dsc01220_medium300.jpg

    • Octavio

      Rice and streamers, gentlemen. Congratulations to the happy couple. 🙂

  • Nexus1

    I think it’s pretty clear now what you have to do to be popular in the Republican party while not being devoutly religious and virulently homophobic, you just have to be blatantly and apologetically racist, xenophobic and misogynistic. See Huckabee and Cruz, just hate on all non white people, women (oh you both already have that covered, sorry) and immigrants and it’s all good among the base.

    • Steve Teeter

      Oh, Huckabee’s pretty devout. Homophobic I just presume.

  • delk

    All those asshole ‘candidates’ attending are going to do nothing but lie to their faces about what they are going to do. Year in and year out it is the same goddamn thing and guess what, the dumb bible thumpers believe every goddamn lie.

    Shit didn’t get done with Bush in office and shit is not going to get done with any other candidate promising shit to evangelicals.

    Ass-holier than thou bigots should be screaming about their ‘so-called leaders’ that con them into believing that they can deliver anything.

    • David L. Caster

      This of course should be no surprise: imagine how gullible the rubes have to be to sustain the scam of most religions. If you want to see this in spades, take a look at the whole prosperity gospel nonsense.

      • Octavio

        Now that you bring it up, I think gawd wants me to have a new corporate jet. I’m sure s/he said so to me in my dreams last night.

        • Homo Erectus

          He told me I should have a yacht, then I awoke and discovered it was just a wet dream.

          • Octavio

            What ever floats your boat. (sorry, that’s about the only thing I could think of as a cute retort) 🙂

    • BudClark

      From Ronnie Raygun onward, the Republicans haven’t REALLY delivered anything of substance …

      Constitutional amendments banning abortion, gay marriage?

      Nope.

      Prayer in the schools?

      Nope.

      The Military Chaplains’ Cabal is on the run.

      Noah’s Ark is going bankrupt.

      So is NOM.

      None of the Reich-Wing crazies have been able to raise as many as a thousand people for ANYTHING in EVER so long.

      I get the feeling that the Kim Davis turd made about the last audible splash in the toilet, and even that was a pretty pathetic one.

      Some people may not like marriage equality, but there comes a point when a LOT of them are simply SICK of hearing about it.

      THEY want to know what’s going to happen about their ACA, Medicare, Medicaid, Planned Parenthood, SNAP, Social Security, pensions, jobs, Wall Street’s continued rape of the middle class, the Republicans being hell-bent on starting another war for fun and profit, our crumbling public schools and infrastructure, the crushing college debt, etc.

      Or if they aren’t concerned about those things, they damn well better GET concerned about them, and QUICKLY.

      It’s sad, but the Religious Freedom Acts mess will get straightened out when it annoys/inconveniences enough straight people, just like when Big Business’s anti-gay wall started to crumble.

      But what the hell? We’ll take allies where we can get them, and if $$$ is motivating Big Business, more power to them.

      The NALT churches and temples are SLOWLY crawling out of the woodwork. That Presbyterian wedding today was BIG news … for the Presbyterians, at least.

      The VAST, VAST majority of American Roman Catholics have ALREADY ignored the Pope on birth control and communion for the divorced and/or remarried. They’re not going to pay any attention to what he says about marriage equality and the family. The RC Church lost its moral authority a LONG time ago, when the paedophile scandal broke, if not before.

      What a world! What a world!

      • Homo Erectus

        A-fuckin’-men.

        • Steverino

          Ahhhhh… men!

      • David L. Caster

        Note too that the pope also just simplified the annulment process.

        • clay

          Finally getting around to recognizing the no-fault divorces American Catholics have been getting for nearly three generations, even before Vatican II in Nevada.

      • MDB

        Before you know it, Bud, they’ll all be begging we fabulous educated gayling organists to please, please, please come back to the churches they’ve hounded us out of for decades. There are not enough organ and sacred music graduates anymore to fill their beautiful sanctuaries with music, now that (hopefully) they’re getting over their bongo drums, tambourines and guitars. (Fuck the fundamentalists and pentecostals – they wouldn’t know great music if it knocked them on their collective asses.)

        Have a great weekend !!

      • robirob

        People finally see the hypocrisy in all of it and that they are/were being played. You can’t shame or guilt trip people into submission when they use their critical thinking skills.

  • JoeNCA

    Donald Trump also refused to oppose gay marriage saying “You have to go with it. The decision’s been made, and that is the law of the land.” He also refused to get behind Kim Davis saying “I must tell you that, you know, we are a land of laws — I would like to see her get a different job or at least let the clerks do that particular work.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/04/politics/donald-trump-gay-marriage-kentucky-clerk-kim-davis/

  • Michael Senesac

    Expect the whole weekend to be about Kim Davis. I wouldn’t be surprised if they dragged her on stage.

    • Steverino

      Or staged her on drag.

      Which makes me think: she likely will be a favorite Halloween costume this year in the Castro…

      • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

        Kim might be too scary for Halloween. San Franciscans might wanna go with Pinhead or Leatherface if there’s going to be kids around.

      • Reality.Bites

        I’ve never been there for Hallowe’en, but I’ve been other places and most people who do drag like to have an element of glamour. Who wants to look like their grandma when she gets out of bed in the morning – makeup removed, serious bedhead and ugly PJs

    • Furface

      Won’t she need a day pass from Judge Bunning and a US Marshall escort?

      • David Walker

        Maybe she’ll be granted an ankle bracelet for the weekend.

      • Grift, Inc. probably have it all calendared out that she’s in contempt of court again that weekend so they can have her address the udder-sucking masses from shackles in the dungeons of Carter County Jail.

    • David Walker

      They deserve her. Besides, she and Tony and the lovely Rev. Gov. Huksterbee are all BFFs now since that clusterfuck last Tuesday. The only foreseeable problem is how well she’ll be able to read the speech that Uncle Mat will write for her…in her own words, of course.

    • Homo Erectus

      All they need now to make a perfect weekend will be Rev. James Manning.

  • Michael Rush

    Donald Trump : Tony Perkins is a loser .

  • Jude Newton

    Well you know The Donald is going to pull a stunt to take the media away. He doesn’t give a shit about the Evangelicals..The problem the Church leaders have is their core members LOVE Donald Trump, so he doesn’t need Church Leader’s approvals like the other GOP candidates do in order to get those votes. I’m actually loving this. For once the all powerful church leaders are floundering. Its amusing as hell.

    • zhera

      He’ll say something REALLY outrageous about Hillary and St. Ronnie at the same time, making sure that Faux Noise can be renamed Trump Television. Or maybe he’ll propose to Megyn Kelly on air.

  • MileHighJoe

    Won’t Little Miss Perkins be surprised when Trump skips his hatefest but still manages to win their little straw poll….

    • David L. Caster

      Knowing that crowd, any candidate that does not show up for their little hate-fest will not appear on that ballot.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    “Duggar Fest Blow Off” sounds like a great name for a moving club party.

  • bambinoitaliano

    Value Voters sound like Value Mart share holders. Some supermarkets at it’s last leg.

  • noni

    No worries. Kim Davis will be there and no one will even notice that the donald isn’t

    • Snarkaholic

      Yeah…see one atrocious hairstyle, you’ve seen ’em all.

  • The Larry Mac

    absense: what I feel when I overdo the crunches.

  • bkmn

    Dear Tony, he’s not that into you. You’re losing your grasp over the nutjobs. Hahahaha!

    Surgery was OK & the drugs are good

    • Good news and swift recover!

      • bkmn

        Thank you Sb! The food is not bad either.

        • Reality.Bites

          You saying that proves the drugs are good!

          • bkmn

            Don’t leave home without them

        • Snarkaholic

          Did the hot nurse show up to give you a sponge bath?

          • bkmn

            Yet to have a male nuse, maybe day shift.

          • Snarkaholic

            You could close your eyes and ask her to speak in her deepest tone of voice.

  • Jeff

    Doesn’t the media overhype that gathering? If I remember CPCA got about 500 attendees.

  • Phil

    Trump may have just pointed out that the emperor has no clothes – i.e. that the evangelical hard core are very unlikely to vote for a democrat and are a small faction in the republican camp that has held way more sway to the party platform and rhetoric than actual votes. They may actually turn off more people to the GOP than anything else.

    The Frumpy Oaf from KY may have highlighted the fractures within the party and made crystal clear the waning influence of the religious right in the GOP.

  • Ben in Oakland

    Tony, dear, you should just ask Trumpelstiltskin whether he cares what you think, or whether he even needs you.
    But please do attack him non-stop.

    • Cuberly

      Yes please! Ha!

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    Tony seems to have missed the bulletin that the Duggars are no longer the hip Christian bigots.

    • Octavio

      You Light Up My Life is still in the top 10 christain hit parade. Time passes slowly in the christain world. Hip still means something they are afraid will break if they have a fall.

      • Eebadee-eebadee-thatsallfolks

        Well have you listened to tbe dreck that’s been marketed as ‘Christian Contemporary’ since then? I think you have to go all the way back to Mahalia Jackson to find really great Christian music.

  • AtticusP

    If only, as in some languages, the “T” in “Trump” were silent.

    Truth in advertising, and all that…

  • ThatsEnoughGravy

    “I think that is going to send a message to Evangelicals and values
    voters that he wants their support, but he is not really interested in
    having a conversation with them.”

    As Billy Eichner said on Difficult People the other night: “That’s like a seven-year-old telling his parents he’s going to run away from home. ‘Where you gonna go?'”

    • Stev84

      Yeah, what are they going to do? Vote Democrat? Don’t vote? Please go ahead.

      • Reality.Bites

        Not only that, the Evangelicals tend to be concentrated in areas of overwhelming Republican support. If a few of them don’t vote, it won’t impact the election in any way.

        Back in Canada, when Stephen Harper turned out to be just another politician, over on “FreeDominion” the right-wing nutjubs made all kinds of vows about never voting Conservative again, voting for fringe parties like the (believe it or not) Christian Heritage Party, and the result was… nothing. The parties’ vote share decreases all the time and they’ve never broken 1%. Of course we’re a different country with fewer religious extremists and more parties, but I think the point remains – those on the fringe have nowhere to go. You can be like the nuts on FreeDominion or the nut we have here (BP) but one thing people on the fringe will NOT do is alter the outcome. And much to his chagrin, Tony is discovering he can’t even shape the discussion anymore.

  • Rod Steely

    Trump can’t make it because he is busy studying his favorite book- the bible

    • Snarkaholic

      Yes, and calling Judas a loser for negotiating the sale of Jesus for only 30 measly pieces of silver.

      • clay

        “horrible, simply horrible negotiations.”

        • Snarkaholic

          While Donald, in true corporate raider fashion, would have broken Jesus up into parts and sold them separately: organs to desperately-ill people; hair on eBay (fans pay yooouge amounts of money for things that celebs have owned); etc.

  • safari2bongaloo

    I give Donald this: he makes the campaign very entertaining.

  • Davidusca

    “Duggar Fest”. You’ve got to be kidding. Will they be selling porn subscriptions at the front door? That ship has sunk. Anyone connecting themselves with that steaming cow pie of a mess would be a complete PR fool. I’m looking forward to a good ol down home “Donald” response, if he even wastes his breath. Stinky situation. Very stinky.

    • Reality.Bites

      Duggarfest is Joe’s name for it, not Tory’s.

  • truthy

    American Christo-Fascism is getting old. Someday history books will tell of a time when American Christo-Fascists went around telling people German Christo-Fascists were liberal homosexuals that did not believe in Christ.

    • Steve Teeter

      They’re already doing that. See Scott Lively.

  • Homo Erectus

    Perkins continued. “[Trump’s absence], whether it was intended to or not, it will send a message.”
    Toni, honey – I think Trump sent a strong message when he told your adulterer to “Do your job or resign”.

    • TampaDink

      How can Trump’s absence be unintended when he has stated that he will not attend? Perky has really been off his game since his loyal, trusted & beloved employee, Josh, resigned.

      • Reality.Bites

        See my post below – you read it wrong.

        • TampaDink

          Sorry. What I was commenting on was from Perky’s quote.

      • Homo Erectus

        Slightly OT but did you know the Alibi is closing next week?
        http://www.watermarkonline.com/2015/09/09/breaking-georgies-alibi-will-close-on-sept-19/

        • TampaDink

          Whoa. Nope. I had no idea. It is sad that so many businesses that cater to our community are falling by the wayside since our rights have advanced but I think that cyber dating/hook up sites & apps have a role in this as well. I see that there is no mention of their Ft. Lauderdale location closing….just the same as when Tropics restaurant lost its lease on S. MacDill Ave….long, long ago….their Wilton Manors location continues.

          • Homo Erectus

            The group that owned Wilton Manors and St. Pete split several years ago. It’s been downhill ever since. I will miss it, though.

  • LonelyLiberal

    Trump’s absence is intended, Toni dear. He’s telling the evangelicals to piss off.

    What, you guys are gonna go vote for Hillary? Girl, please. You’ll shut up and fall in line while Trump gains the unique badge of not pandering to the far right.

  • J Ascher

    I’ll say one thing for Trump: he can show Americans just how really irrelevant Tony Perkins and the like are.

  • Octavio

    Jindal said this afternoon that he’s certain Trump hasn’t read the “bible” because Trump is not in it. Talk about bitchy 5th grade meanness. LOL!

    • Homo Erectus

      What’s a Jindal?

      • Ben in Oakland

        It’s Gujarati for hemorrhoid.

        • Reality.Bites

          With that face he can only aspire to being a hemorrhoid

      • DumbHairyApe

        About two pounds.

    • Reality.Bites

      Credit where credit is due – thats pretty apt.

  • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

    Trump is sending you and your ilk a message, PerKKKins. He doesn’t want to be seen anywhere in your proximity.

  • Patrick

    It’s about time someo.ne told him I give it all a pass

  • cmh

    Oh noooes.

  • Michael Senesac

    Perkins realizes how much money he’s loosing without The Trump.

    • Reality.Bites

      Most people have to invest in one of his properties to do that!

  • TheManicMechanic

    Finally, something I can praise Trump for. The Jeezy bunch doesn’t like to be snubbed.

  • Secure

    This election is getting incredibly delicious! The next debate is going to be WAY more fun than the last.

  • “Oh, Al, I think I just had one!”

    In another blow, the party of Duggar is going full civil-war. I think I need a cigarette.

  • Michael Senesac

    Casey Davis is listed as a speaker at VVS. http://www.valuesvotersummit.org/speakers

    • zhera

      Not surprising. He’s been dying to get in on the grift since it all started in Kentucky.

    • Reality.Bites

      I wonder if he’s biking there.

  • American Patriot

    It’s pretty amazing that Trump is shutting down the evangelicals on the social issues, and yet he is still blowing away the rest of the field. That’s why he is getting so much support from independents AND democrats. People realize that illegal immigration is such a threat to our safety net, that they are willing to let all the other stuff go.

    The invasion of Europe by “refugees” is going to further strengthen his hand in the coming months.

    He needs to focus on is law and order next. The [email protected] the police movement is absolutely killing democrats at the state and federal level. They are losing governors and state legislatures. Who’s idiotic idea was it to have angry blacks burn cities to the ground to mobilize the base ? This is backfiring big time.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/august_2015/voters_want_to_build_a_wall_deport_felon_illegal_immigrants

    • Yup, I’d listen to Rasmussen…

      IF I WAS A FUCKING MONGOLOID.

    • zhera

      “refugees”?

      Fuck you with a cactus. A yooooge cactus.

    • You were the brightest in your class, weren’t you?

  • teedofftaxpayer

    We’ll see just how important this Value Summit is in the next poll. If Trump goes up again, then the Summit is BS if he goes down perhaps they might be controlling the Evangelicals. Something tells me Tony Perkins isn’t as important as he thinks he is.

  • Henri205

    So will the non-Josh Duggars grace the summit with their presence?

  • delk

    Honestly and in all seriousness, in grade school the nuns would slap us with open fists, “What (slap) are (slap) your (slap) values (slap)?

    Fucking bitches

  • Trump doesn’t have to play their game. He’s not above pandering but he’s not going to kiss anyone’s ass. As much as I despise him (and did long before this year), that does change things and maybe he will be the one to break the stranglehold too many horrible organizations have on the GOP. I can’t see him going to (or even being invited to) speak at Bob Jones University, a must for GOP candidates just before the SC primary for decades now. He can snub people that probably none of the GOP candidates ever liked. They didn’t dare. He can’t even be bothered to pretend to give a fuck.

    • Glen

      It would be nice for Trump to bring the GOP back from the stranglehold of the religious nuts, back to their more pure unadulterated roots…. greed.

  • SockMikey

    “Hate Group Leader Tony Perkins Is Furious After Frontrunner Donald Trump Blows Off Duggar”

    Tony Perkins mad cause Josh is no longer blowing him off? 🙂

    • anne marie in philly

      dingdingding, comment of the day!

  • TomF.

    Such name-calling from a devout Christian! Unseemly, at best. Where is the forbearance and compassion that Jesus taught us?

  • Six Pins Delores

    Look Tony it’s YOOGE, SUCK IT!

  • Tom G

    The only issue these evangelicals give a shit about is if he’s the the kind of Christian that they deem an actual Christian. And he sure hasn’t proved it by any means yet.

  • Gordon.

    The thing is, Trump is a one-man show. He has contempt for everybody else. Everybody. It looks like the radical right wingers are waking up to the fact that Trump has better things to do (like his hair) than kiss their asses. Trump LOVES to piss off people. He may be the Republican frontrunner, today, but he won’t be for long. When he starts sinking like a rock, he’ll suddenly quit the campaign, brag about how much money he has, then call everybody a bunch of losers.

  • McShane
  • zhera

    ‘Shocking’ and delicious! Trump doesn’t give a shit about teavangelicals, we’ve known that the whole time. Now that Perkkkins can no longer pretend that Trump is one of theirs he will bring out all the guns.

    It’ll be interesting to see how long it takes for the sheeple to catch up with this. They thought/think they have a Saviour in Grumpy Trumpy but the only thing they agree on is the racism. Which, as it turns out, is Trump’s only platform along with misogyny.

  • William

    Does Trump even have a sister to take to a Duggaring? It is so rude to turn up without. The loaner is always ugly.

  • The Rachel Maddow 9/11 anniversary coverage is airing. I almost forgot what day this is. Let’s never forget that a gay man led the charge that diverted the last plane headed for Washington.

    http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-110912-tribute-lights-ps3.photoblog900.jpg

    • MDB
    • MDB

      9/11 Memorial Organ Recital – Friday September 11, 2015

      http://www.dcago.org/uploads/1/3/3/7/13371927/6952663_orig.jpg

      National City Christian Church will sponsor a memorial concert on Friday, September 11, at 12:15 p.m. to honor and remember those who died in the terrorist attacks of fourteen years ago in New York, Virginia, and Pennsylvania. National City Church is located where 14th Street intersects Massachusetts Avenue at Thomas Circle in Washington, DC.

      Organist John Cannon, from Cooperstown, NY, will perform the poignant Adagio for Strings of Samuel Barber, and the Variations on America by Charles Ives, along with organ works by Dietrich Buxtehude, Johannes Brahms, and M. Searle Wright. The concert, which will last approximately 40 minutes, is free and open to the public. A freewill offering will be accepted.

      The memorial concert on September 11 is the first in a new season of free performances in the church’s Friday Music at Midday series. Most of the concerts are presented on National City’s magnificent pipe organ, featuring 7,500 pipes and five keyboards in a beautiful setting with superb acoustics.

    • Secure

      You’re an American HERO Mark Bingham. Rest in Peace.

  • Michael Senesac

    HEY, Brian Brown, Trump isn’t signing your stupid “Marriage Pledge” either.

  • noni
  • Ginger Snap

    Just imagine for a moment what kind of person Tony Perkins would be without hos grift money and faux spotlight. Disgusting isn’t it?

  • Kissmagrits

    Values – – Is that anything like saving grocery coupons? Or when the blue light
    used to flash above the K-Mart housewares department? Those kinds of values?

  • Happy Dance

    I can’t believe that people are actually rooting for this assclown. That just shows you the type of people we have voting in this country. It is truly sad that we don’t have any better candidates than we do. I am definitely rooting for Bernie Sanders. He is the no-nonsense type of guy we need.

  • Charles in Bloomington

    Absence. The Christian Post needs a copy editor.

  • TexPlant

    One reason not to hate trump

  • clay

    My sound track for Tony Perkins’ night– “Shattered Dreams” by Johnny Hates Jazz (1988)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX-8MHKuQ5I

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    Maybe “the Donald’s” tailor couldn’t get his hood and robe ready in time – – –