Mat Staver: Obergefell Requires Christians To Rip Pages Out Of Their Bibles

“There is existing precedent for a state’s highest court to reject an unlawful mandate from the U.S. Supreme Court. The hope of our Constitutional Republic rests upon state officials and American citizens who will refuse to allow five, black-robed judges to rob us of our free, representative form of government. A judicial opinion without constitutional basis is not law and should not be followed by any state or citizen. Never before in America has a religious requirement been required to hold office or own a business, and it cannot begin now. To require Christians to pull out pages of their Bible in order to hold office or own a business is anti-American and it is unconstitutional, despite what any judge may say otherwise.” – Hate group leader Mat Staver, whose Liberty Counsel has advised the Alabama Supreme Court to defy the Obergefell ruling.

  • Dale Paris

    Oh please, common decency would require much page ripping. You may want to actually read the book.
    This should be a good start.
    http://www.amazon.com/Skeptics-Annotated-Bible-Steve-Wells/dp/0988245108/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1436469701&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=skeptics+anotad+bible

    • Craig Howell

      Thomas Jefferson famously ripped up huge sections of the Bible, mainly those based on supernatural jiggery-pokery, and left behind the good ethical teachings. Just google “Thomas Jefferson’s Bible.”

      • Mister Don

        “The Life of Jesus of Nazareth”

    • TheManicMechanic

      They virtually tear out the pages they don’t like, like everything but that one part of Leviticus, the part about worshiping in private, the golden rule, etc. The parts remaining that they follow (read: justify their bigotry) would fit on a Chick tract.

  • BoringLawyer

    Existing precedent, you say? Bullshit. State courts know their place. And now every state agrees that they must follow Obergefell. It’s just these pathetic little paper-pusher clerks who think they are above the motherfucking Supreme Court.

    It’s cute when little people think they matter because their imaginary sky friend is above pesky man-made law.

  • BearEyes

    why haven’t you been disbarred yet?

    • Gerry Fisher

      SEEER-iously

    • JT

      In Canada, that “law school” wouldn’t be accredited.

    • bkmn

      I would love to talk to the clerk in Arkansas that was all set to not issue licenses after talking to Liberty Counsel to find out what they told her (and didn’t tell her) and I would strongly encourage her to file a complaint with the Bar Association.

  • Gyeo

    “without constitutional basis” You may hate it, but the 14th amendment is constitutional basis.

    • MarkOH

      DISBAR HIM NOW

      • ted-

        Where did he get his education? THEN disbar him. And question his college’s accreditation.

    • Joseph Miceli

      Now, now! You know the 2nd amendment is the only one that matters! The rest are like most of Jesus’ commandments: only followed when convenient.

      • i think of them as the “9.5 suggestions + half of one absolute commandment that relates to the rights of people to kill with guns.”

        • Joseph Miceli

          because…Jeebus! Yes, the disconnect with critical faculties is appalling.

  • Gustav2

    Damn that pesky 14th Amendment you made us sign to get back in the Union after you defeated us!

  • MacCrocodile

    The obsession with their black robes is fascinating. Would the outrage be different if they were pink robes? What if they were black, skin-tight catsuits. I mean, the idea of Antonin Scalia in a skin-tight — [pukes everywhere]

    • lymis

      In their minds, the only legitimate robes are white. With hoods.

    • LovesIrony

      pink robes with fuzzy slippers

      • Mark

        don’t forget the kleenex stuffed in the sleeves and pink curlers.

    • vorpal

      WHY???

      • Joseph Miceli

        The humanity!!!

        • vorpal

          Wait… humanity? What????
          …I thought we were talking about Scalia!

          • Joseph Miceli

            Saw what I wrote up top? Imagine: Scalia in a pink cat suit, giving his dissent though the medium of interpretive dance.
            It would play to a sold out house!

          • Ginger Snap

            I go see it but I would need to be on some sort of stimulants.

          • Joseph Miceli

            LOL, I’d just need two or three Hendricks martinis. That and some oxygen so I could catch my breath!!!!

          • Joseph Miceli

            I’d need a fifth of Stoli.

    • ArchiLaw

      And he forgot to say “unelected.”

      • oikos

        and tyrants.

        • Mark

          and and and…. I got nothin’……

      • TampaZeke

        and BENGHAZI!!!

        • Doug105

          Here try this.

      • GC

        Why the hell should anyone pay attention to the supposed dictates of his UNELECTED “lord and savior”???

    • Ireyon

      I hate you. You’ll pay for my therapist.

      • D. J.

        I think you should send the bills to Mat Staver instead.

    • clay

      Guess which robe color is most common for Protestant preachers.

    • Joseph Miceli

      I don’t know….the spectacle of Antonin Scalia in a pink cat suit delivering his dissent through the medium of interpretive dance…I’d pay money to see that. Better yet, he can be joined in a duet by Thomas!
      Had to edit: Thomas’ would probably be more comfortable with sock puppets.

    • delk

      At least he called them judges and not lawyers.

    • JoeNCA

      Right? I wonder what in the hell what difference what they’re wearing makes?

    • BobSF_94117

      black, skin-tight catsuits and black robes… not mutually exclusive… just saying…

  • Bj Lincoln

    Wow! There are several sentences where he contradicts himself within the same sentence! What a load of shit Drama Queen.

    • John P.

      I’ll say. He’s becoming more unhinged by the day! There’s no religious requirement to hold office or run a business…

      • Bj Lincoln

        It’s the requirement to keep their mouth shut when work in or for the public like the rest of us do. The people pulling this shit are all ‘christian’. There are plenty of other faiths that teach lies about us, but their extremists are not acting like ass holes.

    • SFBruce

      You noticed that, too? And you’re not exaggerating when you say within each sentence. It’s one of those times when the logic is so bad, you wonder why the words don’t just dissipate into dust.

      • Bj Lincoln

        Yes! You would think they cancel each other and just disappear. That would be funny if it worked that way. They would have nothing to say or read.

    • TampaZeke

      He’s just pissed off that his Karma killed his Dogma!

      • Bj Lincoln

        Good one. Thanks

    • Doug105

      ./

  • Blake Jordan

    Well you christianists choose to ignore so much else out of the bible, particularly the “rules” that actually affect your lives…

    They really do seem to believe that as long as they are straight, and persecute those who are not, they are guaranteed a place in heaven, no matter how worthless they are…

    • Craig Howell

      They only ignore the rules they find personally inconvenient, e.g., that silly stuff about no divorce. They’re more than happy to impose rules that let them pass judgment on others.

  • bkmn

    Please let one of the clerks that they tried to convince to withhold marriage licenses get these clowns disbarred.

  • Michael Smith

    I love how every Teapublican has to remind us that the judges are “black-robed”. Do they think judges should wear sweatpants and t-shirts?

    • clay

      Maybe it’s a slam on those denominations that require and educated clergy, who often adopt academic gowns? The only good preacher is one who’s never graduated?

      • BudClark

        The ones who lay their hands on U.S. Mail Boxes and claim “Gawd” ordains them.

  • SFBruce

    What about all those pages of the Bible you’ve already pulled out? You know, the ones that equate male on male sex with eating lobster, that business about mixed fabric, instructions on how to properly sacrifice a bull, no women in positions of authority over men, Paul’s contention that celibacy is best, and one I’d actually like to see you follow: love your neighbor as you love yourself?

  • Ken R

    “Never before in America has a religious requirement been required to hold office or own a business, and it cannot begin now. ”

    Really? I thought all of you in the Religious Right demanded everyone be Christian. A certain type of Christian.

    They can’t even remember their own lies.

    • D. J.

      Seems like there is still no religious requirement. The Christianists are trying to add that to their job descriptions.

      • PLAINTOM

        Exactly

    • “Never before in America has a religious requirement been required to hold office or own a business, and it cannot begin now.”

      Really? Staver must have missed this little gem of a turd *still* in the Texas Constitution and Dictionary of Marriage: Article I, section 4.

      “No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_qualifications_for_public_office_in_the_United_States

      • Joseph Miceli

        That is flat out un-American.

        • David Walker

          PA’s constitution has that provision, too.

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            Yes, David, it indeed does– and it’s bullshit.

      • Heck. anyone with a little creative thought can truthfully acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being! Even an atheist.

        One of the Supreme Beings one might acknowledge could be Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

        Or if one is musically inclined, Diana Ross. (or, from the period when it was “Diana Ross *and* the Supremes,” perhaps Mary Wilson)

        And if one is suitably solipsistic, one can acknowledge oneself as a/the “Supreme Being.”

        Others might acknowledge The Flying Spaghetti Monster.

        Of course, this approach to the Texas Constitution reminds me of how underage youth were able to enlist in the armies of the Union or the Confederacy for the Civil War, without telling a lie.

        They would write the number “18” on a slip of paper, insert it in a shoe, and be able to swear that they were “over 18.”

  • Adam Schmidt

    Yep… the ones right next to where it says “Thou shalt not bear false witness”.

    • JoeNCA

      He violates that one on a constant basis.

      • Adam Schmidt

        Yeah, I figured he’d already ripped that page out. I mean how often do you see a fundamentalist preacher who hasn’t blown off the Ten Commandments? They’re perfectly fine with lying as long as it advances their agenda. They don’t mind stirring up hate. They regularly cheat on their taxes (stealing). And have you found one that is actually loyal to their spouse? They don’t just ignore the Ten Commandments, they piss on them. And it’s their fucking religion!

  • “A spectacular and neat Orwellian trick…”

  • Here’s a page for for you Matt,

    ‘Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. For
    rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do
    wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good.

    6 This is also why you PAY TAXES, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: IF YOU OWE TAXES, PAY TAXES; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.’

    Romans 13

    • Gyeo

      Citing Christian scripture other than Leviticus? That’s anti-Christian oppression!

    • David F.

      Dear Mat,

      Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. “End of debate,” as you say.
      I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them.
      1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord-Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
      2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
      3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness-Lev.15:19-24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
      4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?
      5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
      6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination-Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this?
      7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
      8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?
      9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
      10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
      I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.

      Drops mic!
      (A very old takedown of fuckwit Dr. Laura that I have saved for many year)

      • Steven B

        I’ve seen this before. But always enjoy reading it again. And perfect for this topic.

      • Nick in Pasadena

        And these are only a fraction of the “pages” that Christianists ignore from their bible every day.

      • JoeNCA

        And if one more person quotes Romans 1 without quoting Romans 2:

        “You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment?” – Romans 2:1-3

      • Veylon

        I think you need a Rabbi or possibly a Talmudic Scholar. Those guys have spent the last three thousand years parsing this stuff down to the last jot and tittle.

    • oikos

      You left out the exemptions clearly stated in Mat’s bible “except for republicans and christers.”

  • Cuberly
    • TerryInIowa

      Unelected, too!

      • Cuberly

        Gasp! Stop it, YOU’RE SCARING ME EVEN MORE!!!!!

    • oikos

      Those tyrants with their flowing robes and an air of authority.

      • Cuberly

        …and their evil swords & horses, and wow, talk about robe funk. I bet they’re kinda pungent.

  • Michael Smith

    What exactly is the Bible verse that says Christians who are civil servants can’t perform gay marriages?

  • Phil

    Actually it doesn’t. It means you can’t force other people to live according to the laws set forth in your bible. You simply lack the cranial capacity to differentiate the two things.

    • PLAINTOM

      This is your brain on religion.

      • BudClark

        Oh, you mean that fetid puddle of grey ooze just below the “altar?”

  • ScottChicago

    Then you would be getting rid of most of Leviticus and Deuteronomy.
    And what is this constant use of the term “black-robed.” Really becoming pathological.

    • SFBruce

      And don’t for “unelected, black-robed” judges. Makes it sounds really ominous, even though the fact that federal judges are unelected is a good thing, since it makes the whole idea of an INDEPENDENT judiciary at least a possibility.

    • Tor

      It’s got to be a dog whistle, but I don’t quite understand it. It just sounds scary. What about those “black-robed” ministers in their churches?

      • clay

        Perhaps it’s dog-whistle for those (men) unhappy with their (relatively) liberal clergy?

        Perhaps it’s dog-whistle for those in denominations that don’t require educated clergy, that haven’t adopted academic gowns as preaching robes?

  • MikeBx2

    For many, many years the U.S. law has allowed unlimited divorce and remarriage, not to mention as much fornication as consenting adults would care to have, yet their bible still contains all those pages forbidding it.

  • MBear

    can’t get any more dramatic than that, eh? Come on – try a little harder. *files nails*

  • Patrick

    After you rip them out, shred them, I don’t want some kid going thru your trash and finding them.

    • DavidL

      I ripped out Leviticus years ago and threw it in the trash where it belongs.

    • Prion

      Origami is fun!

      • B Snow

        Wow!!!

  • Pilot Nozzle

    Yeah, just exactly like Red Lobster and J.C. Penny requires pages be ripped out of bibles everywhere.

  • Sam_Handwich

    thanks for the tip, mat!

    i’m ripping pages out even as i type

  • lymis

    Christians have survived legal divorce, the end of slavery, women being allowed to own property in their own name, and the end of the criminalization of things like adultery, fornication, sodomy, and segregation, all of which they found grounded in their Bibles, without visibly needing to rip anything out of the book.

    They’ve also consistently managed to overlook commands to love one’s neighbor, treat others the way one wants to be treated, not lending money at interest, dietary and clothing restrictions, and explicit statements that Christians may not make distinctions based on gender, race, or servitude, (“In Christ there is neither male nor female, Gentile nor Jew, slave nor free….”), and the command to obey civil authority, since government it instituted by God.

    A small percentage of people gaining a measure of civil equality is not only perfectly in keeping with some interpretations of Christianity, but also not any sort of imposition on them. They’ll get over this. Faster than you think, Matt.

    • the not lending money with interest part always fascinates me. at some point(s), several religious leaders or writers realized: interest is evil.

      it’s actually a shorthand way of saying that capitalism is evil. i happen to agree with that notion. i really wish sometimes that the major religions would get with the program about how banking is Of Satan. or whatever.

  • D. J.

    Get out your waders.

  • Sam_Handwich

    fyi…

    Breaking: Kentucky Gov. Orders County Clerk To Issue Marriage Licenses To Gay Couples Or Quit – Clerk Refuses

    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/breaking_gov_orders_county_clerk_to_issue_marriage_licenses_to_gay_couples_or_quit_clerk_refuses?recruiter_id=2

    • Treg Brown

      Thanks for posting this Sam. It would be great to see this clerk/pastor thrown out on his ass by the police.

      • clay

        How successful a pastor is he if he has to take an additional job?

        • Langalf

          In many denominations, and especially in smaller communities, pastors are employed part-time and have to take another job to make ends meet. Not all pastors work for mega-churches and get big bucks.

      • I want my federal marshals – and a trip to Guantanamo Bay for the traitorous clerk.

    • Gustav2

      What to do when they bring their own crosses? What to do?

    • Bruno

      The article says that now the clerk will need to be sued. Can he be fired? Are county clerks in KY elected or appointed?

      • JoeNCA

        Elected.

    • Paula

      That’s a lot of hate.

    • Wynter Marie Starr

      Since he won’t do his job, they should withhold his paycheck.

    • JustSayin

      Impeach the dickwad

  • JT

    Go ahead and let her rip!

    Jefferson did it best.

  • lymis

    Who, exactly, elected pastors, priests, bishops, and assholes like you, Matt? Pot and kettle, sweetie. SCOTUS has vastly more legitimate authority than you do.

    • clay

      that depends upon the denomination, oddly, they’re still expected to serve, to at least some extent, people who are NOT members of their church.

      • lymis

        My point is that however they got their church jobs, nobody elected any of them to have civil authority over the rest of us.

  • LovesIrony

    this is what happens when you get your law degree in the bottom of a cracker jack box.

  • LovesIrony

    Rip away christians, this is an order.

  • Queequeg

    Just make sure you recycle all that paper, Matt. At least do one decent thing.

  • vorpal

    No need to stop at four or five pages, Maty. They make surprisingly good toilet paper.

    • BudClark

      Good rolling papers too … at least the blank pages. That ink can be toxic!

      • vorpal

        LOL indeed – read, red, or otherwise!
        (Sorry… soooo lame!)

  • Paula

    So what, Mat, you and your kind have been doing that for years, anyway.

  • LovesIrony

    To require Christians to pull out pages of their Bible in order to hold office or own a business is anti-American and it is unconstitutional, despite what any judge may say otherwise.”
    and that is why no judge has said this. You fucking idiot go eat shit

  • JT

    I’m sure you’ve already ripped out this one:

    “Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

  • ArchiLaw

    I do love a good melt-down . . .

  • Sam Rothstein

    The eyes of a serial killer.

    • clay

      To me, he just looks really, really afraid.

  • JT

    See, now, if you were in Canada, your “university law school” wouldn’t be accredited.

  • oikos

    Better get busy, Mat. You’ll also need to rip out the pages on owning slaves, selling your daughter as a sex slave and beating your wife and children.

    http://www.joannatsoni.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/18a5ad1c67d11ea361c0c93da37794a0.jpg

  • Ninja0980

    Is this clown going to get disbarred at some point?

  • PLAINTOM

    These pleas have touched my heart, I think I will start a GoFundMe campaign to pay for these persecuted Christians to emigrate to Russia.

  • JDM

    Don’t tear the pages, honey. That’s so tacky. Here. Use scissors.

    • clay

      #11 exacto blade for the arts and crafts set

    • D. J.

      Or a razor blade. Just don’t dull it. He can use it on his wrists when he has his next tantrum.

      • JDM

        Uh, no. Suggesting someone committ suicide isn’t funny.

        • D. J.

          I would not wish him to be successful, nor make a serious attempt. A tantrum would amount to scratching himself with the blade.

        • D. J.

          Point taken.

  • Sporkfighter

    “There is existing precedent for a state’s highest court to reject an unlawful mandate from the U.S. Supreme Court.”

    Bullshit.

  • bambinoitaliano

    Not true! It require you to douse yourself in gasoline and set yourself on fire.

  • adamj2013

    The resemblance is uncanny.

  • Oh, pish-posh. Why don’t we do what should have been done in the first place and forbid anyone suffering from the mental illness that is religious belief from holding office?

  • Doug105

    Save Time.

    • jmax

      Big upvote for your avatar too 🙂

  • D. J.

    When I incorporated my business there were no religious questions asked. Might have been different if it had been a 501(C)(3)…..
    Articles of Incorporation, Federal EIN#, Sales Tax ID#, Business Licenses and a Fire Inspection. That was pretty much it.
    I served everyone who came in. If we couldn’t agree on price they left empty handed. If we did agree on price, they left with the goods.

  • Stev84

    So what?

  • Michael Rush

    can any of that be translated into english ?

    • Sam_Handwich

      jiggery-pokery, argle bargle

      and furthermore, APPLESAUCE!

  • Mark

    No, it means read ALL the pages and remember, the United States of America is NOT a christian nation.

  • Baltimatt

    Have Christians pulled the passages about slavery out of their Bible, even though it was made illegal in this country?

    Drama queen!

  • Eric in Oakland

    “Never before in America has a religious requirement been required to hold office or own a business, and it cannot begin now.”

    Then why is his dominionist side insisting that this is a “Christian” nation and only Christians (the “right kind”) should be allowed to hold office? And how is expecting public servants to serve all of the public equally a “religious requirement”?

    “To require Christians to pull out pages of their Bible in order to hold office or own a business is anti-American and it is unconstitutional, despite what any judge may say otherwise.”

    Wow. So Christians still follow all those passages about slavery, forcing women to marry their rapist, stoning adulterers, and killing babies?

    • D. J.

      They are trying to get your last paragraph added back in, with the caveat that it doesn’t apply to them, just the (us) heathens and the owning of slaves. I think they want that for themselves.

    • JoeNCA

      Yes, and the government cannot impose their views on same sex marriage on the people!

      Unless they’re banning it, then it’s totally okay!

  • Sure. Do whatever you want, Matt. It’s your bible, not mine.

  • Mike in Texas

    They’ve been ignoring pages of the Bible for centuries. So what else is new?

    Now just go back to your legal malpractice.

  • Rod Steely

    Matt please just shut up already!

  • Here, I have a suggestion Mat, just toss the whole damn book into the fire and open your eyes and mind to the world as it actually is. A multi-hued, multi-religious, multi-sexuality wonderful world.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    “Never before in America has a religious requirement been required to hold office or own a business, and it cannot begin now.”

    Uhm? What!??!?!?!?!?!? The crazy is strong in him.
    Winner of today’s batshit crazy “Really Bad Analogy” award.

  • Macbill

    Well I hope the government doesn’t make the Christianists use their torn bible pages as toilet paper. That would seem wrong.

    • oikos

      Might be all they have when they get to the FEMA camps.

    • BaddogLtd

      Because a napkin can’t be a paper towel.

    • clay

      It’s a bit . . . crisp

    • Bj Lincoln

      I have rolled….tobacco…in pages before. They burn nicely.

    • kanehau

      Paper cuts down there really hurt!

  • Dana Chilton

    SCOTUS determines what the law is; it has been that way for over 200 years. They alone have final say over how to interpret the constitution. I suspect Matt (and the AL supreme court) know that. That said, this is a really good lesson for all of us on how groups like Liberty and people like Matt actually think and how they view our government. As with religion they believe there is only one truth- their own personal interpretation of truth. They believe in the ultimate rightness of their views in all things (to a fundamentalist there is only right and wrong). Matt and Liberty are “right” in their interpretation of the constitution. They are “right” in their view of gay people. Therefore, SCOTUS is “wrong” and their interpretation of the constitution is illegitimate and can (or even MUST) be ignored. Matt says (and probably believes) that he “loves” the constitution; so, how can he advocate disobedience to the very system of government the constitution sets up? It’s simple, he thinks his own personal view of what’s right is the only true and legitimate meaning of the constitution. Folks like him view our constitution the same way they view the bible and religion… There is only one correct interpretation and it’s their own interpretation. His ideal of what america is is the only america that matters to him. It’s why fundamentalist churches split so much… Fundamentalists are 100% right in all things and anything different is illegitimate and an abomination and must be shunned as such. Our actual form of government and our style of democratic rule mean nothing to them… He doesn’t care about our constitution or our government or the rule of law… he only cares about the primacy of his own vanity.

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      … and money. 💵 💵 💵 💵 💵 💵 💵 💵 💵 💵

  • pickypecker

    pssst….mat..over here. IT’S OVER, BITCH. MOVE ON.

    http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1339426725154_9146065.png

  • David Michael

    The entire book is best not used. No need to rip out pages. Just understand that was a book that was relevant to the social structure 2k years ago. We have now evolved part its wake.

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    I’d be very happy to make some suggestions about which pages should be pulled. Give me a call Mat.

  • BaddogLtd

    Oh no! Now that the court has ruled marriage is legal, how long before the Big Gay penis starts jizzing glitter all over decent, God fearing Christians? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvPomyK6Bes

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      The “bang” scared the Norwegians. Imagine Americans… they would be sure some gun-nut was shooting at them.

  • D. J.

    A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

    • kanehau

      Not if he never had one to begin with.

  • Timothy Kincaid

    They’re ripping pages out of their Bibles? Why, that would make them just like Thomas Jefferson.

    • D. J.

      In photos, looks like Franklin Graham has his own Cliff Notes version, too.

      • JCF

        Cuts out every reference to “love”.

  • TampaZeke

    I’m pretty sure that they would start with the pages that address bearing false witness and divorce and judging and throwing stones and honoring the Sabbath taking care of the poor and outcast and rendering unto Caesar and all the other “sins” that they willingly and proudly commit.

  • Captain Jack

    Why not just rip up the whole thing and just use common sense ..if he has any!

  • Galvestonian

    “requires Christians to rip pages out of their Bibles’ – you grifting, con-artist mooching pillock. Lying liar … what a crock of shit ! Scare the crap outta the sheeples – old ladies cowering in fear and sending you their sugar bowl money. You’re nothing than a vomitous mass, rotten to the core and truly evil.

    • Bj Lincoln

      Love the “vomitous mass”. This is exactly what this is. Scare sheeple into giving more money. I had a neighbor who subscribed to all the crap from shit heads like this. Some of it found it’s way to my mailbox by mistake. We would get high and read it out loud for shits and giggles. The only time she left the house was for church. She only watched religious shit on TV. I never had the heart to tell her I was gay and the woman living with me was not just my friend. She gave every spare dime she had to her church. Sad really.

    • CB

      I’m a glutton for lyrical vitriol!

  • Daniel

    Serial loser in case after case and court after court says what now, in jeeziz’ name aymin?

  • D. J.

    Do non-drinkers of alcohol get to deny driver’s licenses to partakers of demon rum? Wine? Beer?

  • Tom (Winnipeg)

    OK. I can help with that, like the verse that requires that a baby, for whatever reason, should be killed by having their head smashed against a wall. And many other pages. I can’t believe that Billy Graham read that crap over a hundred times (whatever), when he was reading “The Book of Myths” (a.k.a The Bible) so many times. Was he half asleep? Has he murdered any babies in this manner? Or just incredibly stupid. Franklin – like father like son. And this moron, Staver, with absolute ignorance written all over his guilty face.

  • JustSayin

    Refusing to not obey scotus because 157 years ago a state supreme court never reversed itself is not constitutional grounds to disobey scotus. Its like a six year old saying his big brother didn’t take a bath last week so he doesn’t have too take one today.

    • clay

      a state supreme court 157 years ago didn’t bother to reverse itself because there were no more slaves to return to the South, anyway.

  • Hue-Man

    Are they still being printed? Aren’t they all on tablets and smartphones? I know in Mat’s case it would be a TRS-80…

    • BudClark

      Now, I LOVED my Trash-80 … some of the best porn I ever wrote was produced on that machine with an IBM follow-the-bouncing-ball printer.

  • “To require Christians to pull out pages of their Bible in order to hold office or own a business is anti-American and it is unconstitutional, despite what any judge may say otherwise.”

    Matt’s Christianists have already pulled many pages out of their Bibles.

    Their Bibles are missing the passages from 1 Samuel 18 through 2 Samuel 1.

    Also missing are Isaiah 56. Matthew 19, and Acts 8.

    As to the parts they have not ripped out, they consistently mistranslate, misinterpret and misstate many other passages that they do use, or they take out of context. All to suit their particular bigotry.

    On the other hand, Mat seems to have ripped Article X of the Constitution out of his copy, and doesn’t seem to have Amendments 1 or 14, either. It also seems his law books make no mention of Loving v. Virginia.

    The ideas of due process or equal protection under the law are foreign to Mat.

    • JCF

      Preeeeeeach!

  • lattebud

    You’ve already ripped out the pages about love, compassion, caring for the hungry/homeless, etc.

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    Why do they keep emphasizing that the judges wear black robes? Is there something else that judges wear?

    We are not a theocracy and if your religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job you sought in election then you shouldn’t run. This has nothing to do with a religious test. In fact it’s the christians that basically demand a religious test that only other christians be elected to office.

    • Kissmagrits

      Re: Judges and black robes – hiding, perhaps, some Victoria’s Secret? Fishnets?

      • KarenAtFOH

        Ok, I just put Scalia into that thought, and now I sincerely desire a lobotomy.

    • KQCA

      Most conservative judges have an alternate…eh-hem.. outfit.

  • Tallulah

    Rip those pages out of Leviticus. I’ll bet you don’t want to be reminded about all the other things it says.

  • DesertSun59

    Amusing assertion on this man’s part. They only use a few pages in the first place.

    • Kissmagrits

      Mostly from Leviticus – – – Not much heard from Jesus these days as they consider Him a wimp and peacenik.

  • Joseph Miceli

    Is this the best these assholes have? Strawman arguments? They can bleat on and on about their perceived and totally fatuous persecution, but the law is the law. Obey it or get sued or spend some time in jail. You want to be a martyr? “Big Gay” and all the decent people in this nation…the majority, by the way!….can arrange it.

    • NowAnAgnostic

      They always conveniently fail to mention the many areas of the United States where it is completely legal to refuse to serve GLBT individuals. Married today, fired tomorrow.

      • Joseph Miceli

        Strawman arguments…that the Supreme’s have set a match to!

  • Kissmagrits

    Ripping pages out of your bible? Sounds a lot like the Council of Nicea.

    And wouldn’t it be more eco-friendly if you borrowed my shredder and recycled?

  • People4Humanity

    Once in a pinch, a friend needed some thin paper to hand-roll a special herbal “cigarette” — so I let him tear out some of the blank back pages of the bible. Does this mean I’m a hell-bound homo?

    • Silver Badger

      No. It means you are a hell bound druggie. Or a hell bound vandal. No matter what you do, the Christionists will have you in hell.

      • People4Humanity

        Whew. Because heaven would be boring.

  • GayOldLady

    Why does Obergefell cause you to rip pages out of your bible? How about bacon and shrimp eaters, or overweight people, or women teachers or people who wear clothes made of cotton & polyester, or people who don’t obey the Sabbath, or people who have sex outside marriage? If you want to start ripping pages out of your bible over all of the things that are legal in civil law but forbidden in your bible, then your bible will soon disappear. Have it at brother!!

    • GC

      Thomas Jefferson set an honorable precedent with the “Jefferson Bible“, The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth, literally cutting-and-pasting from the Gospels to extract what he saw as Jesus’s pure teachings, sans supposed miracles, “as easily distinguishable as diamonds in a dunghill.”

      Thanks to modern technology, we can all see it for ourselves: http://americanhistory.si.edu/JeffersonBible/the-book/

  • KQCA

    Whatever works.

  • Sean Taylor

    well they should be ripping them out anyway.

  • delk

    FIVE, BLACK ROBED JUDGES!
    It’s like an alternative fifth day of christmas lyric.

  • weshlovrcm

    First of all, this false prophet doesn’t speak for all Christians. And secondly, as a Christian myself, this decision doesn’t remotely make me rip any pages out of my Bible. What is it exactly that these militant anti-gay activists are trying to incite?

  • SockMikey

    They’re already picking and choosing which verses are relevant and which “sins” are worse than others, this doesn’t seem like a big step for some.

  • Silver Badger

    I didn’t see anything in Obergefell mentioning Christians or their bible. Did I miss the fine print?

  • JCF

    Huh. All my Bibles are strangely intact. *

    * More importantly, compared to the Fundie Wingnut Christianists, my Bibles are all translated accurately, and/or interpreted in context, and ALL balanced w tradition and ***reason***.

  • Jeffrey

    Hubby and I were at the Supreme Court yesterday. Had a little tour and everything. It was really quite emotional. I’d never been there before and it means something new to us now. Mat Staver cannot change that.

    • gaymex

      That’s really great Jeffrey. With the current ruling on equality, it would be a profound experience to take that tour.

  • Dale082

    Fire. I recommend fire.

    • People4Humanity

      … as in, ‘Brimstone’?

  • grada3784

    Never an end to conservative Christian false witness.

  • Jude Newton

    The only state Supreme Court in a nation of 50 State Supreme Courts, that will even listen to Mat Staver is Alabama. Home of Super Wingnut Justice Roy Moore.
    Huh. I guess Mississippi isn’t returning your calls, eh?

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      And the County Clerks in other states are getting legal advice by competent local lawyers.

  • Claude Jacques Bonhomme
    • KarenAtFOH

      Organic Chemistry would be my candidate.

  • DaveMiller135

    Actually, they’re not asked to do anything with their Bibles. But they might consider actually reading them. To the extent, at the very least, of realizing that that favorite of religious bullies, Leviticus, is more than two verses long. And they’re not trying to live by any of the rest of it.

  • Robert Conner

    Are you a Gentile? Then Jesus never had any interest in “saving” you.

    https://www.scribd.com/doc/269575794/Christianity-s-Critics-The-Romans-Meet-Jesus-by-Robert-Conner

  • teedofftaxpayer

    Hey, you can rip your heads off as far as I’m concerned.

  • “Never before in America has a religious requirement been required to hold office or own a business…”

    Article VI, paragraph 3 of the US Constitution does indeed say that “No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

    But the owners of a privately-owned bakery or flower shop are not exercising an office or a public trust under the United States — or indeed under a State either (see the preceding clause of Article VI) — and there is no way the “no religious test” clause can be stretched to apply to them. Staver is grasping at non-existent straws.

  • infmom

    Aw, so what? They’ve already ripped plenty of pages out of their Bibles to get rid of those pesky comments about hypocrites, rich people and the reward they’re gonna get for going around showing off how religious they are.

  • Clive Johnson

    Staver, when I tear pages out of my Bible I usually don’t worry about which ones. I’m only concerned about how many pages will catch the log on fire.

  • Davester

    So…basic theme of the past couple weeks: professional closet cases still going apeshi-t over the Supreme Court ruling. Rest of the world: has already moved on.

  • DonnaLee

    Um….I had to swear to god to get my job. Otherwise I wouldn’t have it. It’s a rule I fail to see the validity of in the slightest.

  • nyc guy

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  • Chris Larosa

    Mat Staver is a nitpicking fool. Using the same line of reasoning, you might as well rip out the countless pages that reference polygamy, the Ten Commandments, divorce, gluttony, malice, slavery, and so on. I don’t even need to mention the 600+ Levitical laws which many pseudo-Christians claim, at their whim, are still in effect. How many Christians, per ancient biblical standards, work on the Sabbath? I would say 99.9%. Yet nowhere is the violation of this practice abolished in the NT. And, yet, we still have these fools desperately clinging to the ‘tradition’ that the whopping 5 scriptures blanket condemn innate homosexuality while Jesus is crystal clear on the damnation of divorce and adultery which is rampant in the Church.

  • GayEGO

    My! Those sub-human gays are trying to take away our American alienable rights to discriminate against them. People like Mat Staver are so evil they should be sent to reform school and re-educated about the difference between American inalienable, civil, equal rights which are for all American citizens and Freedom of Religion which does not allow forcing religious doctrines on others OUTSIDE that religion.

  • furyatx

    Yes! Rip them out! All of them and use it to start the huge pile of other bibles on fire. They are not necessary anymore.