TENNESSEE: Republicans Decline To Denounce Nazism

The Tennessean reports:

A House committee declined to pass a resolution that stated Tennessee denounces white nationalism and neo-Nazism. The sponsor, Rep. John Ray Clemmons, D-Nashville, didn’t receive a second motion to proceed with discussing the resolution in the House State Government Subcommittee on Wednesday.

“I’m in utter disbelief at what just happened,” Clemmons said after the meeting. “I didn’t think there was anything controversial about this resolution.” He said he had expected the resolution would be passed and placed on the House’s consent calendar.

The subcommittee’s sole Democrat, Rep. Darren Jernigan, D-Old Hickory, made the first motion, which was met with silence by the subcommittee’s Republican members, Reps. Bill Sanderson, Bud Hulsey and Bob Ramsey. After being cut off by Sanderson, the subcommittee chairman, from discussing the resolution, Clemmons was immediately granted a second motion to talk about an unrelated bill on studying state government contracts.

ThinkProgress reports:

House Joint Resolution 583 was filed  in the wake of the Unite the Right rally, where one counter-protester was killed by white nationalist James Alex Fields Jr.  The motion stated that “recent tragic events have proven that white nationalism and neo-Nazism remain very real threats to social and racial progress” and asked the house to “strongly denounce and oppose the totalitarian impulses, violent terrorism… and bigoted ideologies that are promoted by white nationalists and neo-Nazis.” It also urged law enforcement to recognize these groups as domestic terrorists.

  • Tulle Christensen

    Why would the Republicans want to alienate their base?

  • It would piss off too many in their base and there’d go their margin of victory.

  • KnownDonorDad

    Speaking of Nazis, I never tire of watching this scene. Enjoy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7KNC48Qbto

  • KnownDonorDad
  • Mark Née Fuzz

    No surprises there. Republicans stopped pretending to be decent human beings long ago.

  • Talisman

    Why would they denounce their families?

  • Too many fans in their ranks and among their supporters.

    • Gustav2

      It’s all about the base.

  • JohnJay

    O/T: … something that may blow up the news today just spilled on Morning Joe. The lawyer for Stormy was asked if she was threatened with physical harm…. and he said “Yes”!

    • KarenAtFOH

      Wouldn’t surprise me if the same threat was given to Kathy Griffin.

  • JustDucky

    OT: A Tenth-Circuit Court ruling, if upheld by SCOTUS, could turn half of Oklahoma back into tribal lands.

    “A three-judge panel in the Tenth Circuit ruled last summer, however, that Congress never explicitly abolished the Creek Nation’s reservation… Under the Supreme Court’s precedents, the judges concluded, the oversight left the reservation legally intact until the present day… The ruling also raises the possibility of sovereignty claims by other Oklahoma tribes, including the other four of what are known as the Five Civilized Tribes.”

    https://images.newrepublic.com/c271acbdc177197e8fc9ba677e2ff64aa4f8a42b.png?w=1000&q=65&dpi=3&h=495

    https://newrepublic.com/article/147472/grisly-murder-case-turn-half-oklahoma-back-tribal-lands

    http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/royal-v-murphy/

    • Gustav2
    • Kruhn

      Wasn’t that supposed to be the proposed State of Sequoiah? I understand originally Oklahoma was supposed to be two states.

      • iambu

        I think it was split in half horizontally when it was still a territory and the southern half was Oklahoma. Dunno what happened after that.

    • ColdCountry

      Bah! Dump will just sign something and it’ll all be OK. Weez Murikins, we don’t honor no stinking treaties.

    • PlutoAnimus

      Republican rednecks fuck up again.

    • UrsusArctos 🐻

      Nice! Blame Andrew Jackson! /snark

    • Menergy

      Thanks for the article. I sent it along to woman friend here in the Santa Fe area, who is from OK ( Choctaw tribe) – wealthy from her deceased oil- rich husband’ estate….will be interesting to see her point of view and effects from this, if any.

    • Oh’behr in Minnesota

      Wow. Thank you for your post.

  • Boreal
    • greenmanTN

      An aside, and only trying to bring some levity to a very ugly situation,., https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/755ab7bd3e4cca08158a98e080205f43148425e7d083ba726b0c589f38f5a7b2.jpg

      • Boreal

        lol

        • TuuxKabin

          Leave it to the two of you for a good morning’s /s. Thanks both.

          • greenmanTN

            It’s hard out here for a Cracka Ho! 😁

      • HozillaSmallpox

        Troy Penetrator….I’m at work man. Now I will have to sit at my desk for 30 minutes.

        • madknits

          I’m stuck on Thugzilla.

          • greenmanTN

            With a name like Thugzilla a lot of people probably get stuck on him, but maybe that’s just my dirty fantasies….

  • Gigi

    Well I can see why. Some of them are very fine people.

    KKK Grand Dragon says I’m ‘glad’ Heather Heyer died in Charlottesville
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/kkk-leader-charloteesville-im-glad-girl-dies-heather-heyer-killed-james-alex-fields-jr-grand-dragon-a7895851.html

  • TexasBoy

    Of course they didn’t denounce Nazis…do you really expect the Religious Right in Tennessee to denounce itself? To expect otherwise is like expecting Donald Trump to support single payer health insurance.

  • greenmanTN

    I live in Tennessee. I thought we were better than this. I guess I thought wrong.

    Rejecting White Supremists should not be controversial.

    • Comixbear

      I live in Tennessee too. After the last election, I lost any belief that ANY state was better than this. I have no faith in people to do the right thing anymore.

      • JCF

        You guys can’t give up HOPE! This country—EVERYWHERE in this country—IS changing. We just have to survive the current horror show, and things WILL get better…

        • Comixbear

          I used to feel like that, but the last year has shown me that hope doesn’t pan out anymore. My own personal hell over the last year was bad enough, but the fact that so many people ignore/condone/contribute to the hate that is the GOP anymore has caused all positive thought out of my life. And even by some chance we manage to get control back, at least 35% or so of the population will fight it and it is going to take decades for us to get back to where we started before this piece of shit in orange got his ego boost. No, there is no hope in my life anymore.

          • JCF

            You sound clinically depressed, Cb. Please have that diagnosed, and treated, if appropriate. [Been there, done that.]

            There’s so much work to be done, and we are making progress. Come back to the political threads when you’re feeling better. Take care.

        • Oh’behr in Minnesota

          Exactly. Thank you JCF. It will change again with younger generation(s).

    • Del Sam

      Southeast TN chiming in here, and I’m not surprised in the least. Wouldn’t surprise me to hear that a couple of the GOP bastards try to pass a resolution to celebrate the neo-shit balls.

  • Tennessee is, of course,where the KKK was founded. When I was growing up I was frequently told that the Klan allegedly started as a nice social club, but even as a kid I thought, yeah, a nice social club started by racists who happily sent young men to fight to keep slavery going…

    • Karl Dubhe

      That is true, but the social club didn’t last as a social club for very long.

      Matter of weeks or months iirc.

    • canoebum

      Social Club, yeah. Let’s all get together, ride out there and burn some crops and houses, maybe throw in a lynching or two just to spice up the evening. ‘Cause when I think Socialites and fancy dress parties, Nathan Bedford Forrest is the first person who comes to mind.

  • Karl Dubhe

    Tennessee whiskey has just been scratched off of my drinking list.

    Too bad that I’ve never thought to try it.

  • Devon Rodriguez

    As long as the money and hate (gays, women, minorities, etc) is flowing…this is standard operating procedure with a heavy dose of hypocrisy…

    https://pics.me.me/voting-republican-i-vote-republican-to-keep-foreigners-minorities-women-5278247.png

  • Well then, TN should be the default home of racists and they are all welcome to move there and make TN the capital of hate. All good people can then relocated to more sensible states and then we can build a wall around TN so they can’t get out.

  • greenmanTN

    I dont know why I feel responsible for this but I do. I’m literally crying.

    I thought we were better than this,

    I’m so sorry.

    • HozillaSmallpox

      You shouldn’t feel responsible. I lived in Tennessee for awhile and I know that there are really good people there. Sure there’s plenty of assholes but hey it’s the bible belt. Just like the rural area I live in all these people care about is their guns and fetuses.

      • prixator

        Do they have more guns or fetuses? (Or is it “feti”?)

        And, I hope they don’t keep them in jars! (Either one.)

        • HozillaSmallpox

          I would guess guns, but they sure love the fetuses

    • TuuxKabin

      YOU are better than that. GOL. Gretchen and many others. Wish I could give you a hug and look at your art work, kitties and yard.

    • MaryJOGrady

      It’s not your fault.

      As HozillaSmallpox says below, there are really good people in Tennessee and we all know it.
      When I lived in Texas, I cringed and sometimes wept myself at what goes on there, including executions of prisoners who were factually innocent of the crimes for which they were condemned. I knew people who joined in fighting the death penalty, though. I knew people, including the legendary Glen Maxey, Texas’s first openly gay elected official, who fought for LGBTQ peoples’ rights for decades. (When Glen was first elected to the Texas House, where two legislators share one desk, nobody wanted to sit with him, presumably for fear of gay cooties. When he retired, he was honored with a bipartisan resolution of thanks for his hard work and the good he had done for all Texans.)
      Please accept a virtual hug from me.

      • greenmanTN

        Thank you for that.

    • Dagoril

      Unless you are a Nazi, it has nothing to do with you. You have no control over your neighbors.

    • As a fellow Tennessean I also thought we were better than this, and I hope you can take some comfort in knowing you’re not alone. Neither of us is alone in this. We have people like Rep. John Ray Clemmons representing us.

    • Nic Peterson

      Butcha aren’t Blanche, ya aren’t responsible for those damn Nazis!

      It was that or a Snap Out of IT! And I didn’t think a bitch slap this early in the morning would set the right tone. Ms Davis for the win.

      • greenmanTN

        I was about to go after you like a dog after a bone, but then I actually read what you said.

        Thank you for that.

        I’m actually not trying to win The Weepy Oscars, it just hit me wrong.

        • Nic Peterson

          Thanks for the second chance; here’s a tissue and a Bloody Mary. I happen to be a dog with a large bone, that I would be happy to bury in your backyard.

          • greenmanTN

            I’d like to help you bury it.

    • Adam Schmidt

      I grew up in Knoxville and while this probably doesn’t fly completely there, I can totally imagine it in the surrounding rural area. I feel for ya, I do.

    • zhera

      We’re all sorry, greenman. And we know they are nothing like you. ♥

      • greenmanTN

        💋

        Thanks.

  • Barry William Teske

    Well America.
    You now know who your true friends are.
    And you definately know who your enemies are.

  • Dazzer

    There must still be people alive in Tennessee who put their lives on the line fighting Nazis in WWII. Yet the State legislature can’t pass a resolution telling them they were doing the right thing.

    It’s so sad that these politicians can’t even acknowledge the greatness of their own constituents.

    • JCF
      • Oh’behr in Minnesota

        I like the poster. I wish the darker entity was white(r). As other white people (such as my ethnic background, yet not such as myself) are the threat. It seems to imply that dark people are the threat. Yet the MAGA hat helps. So I got the message right away. Yet I wonder what a black person might think. Perhaps if that was a brown shirt. Nah, that would not help. Panzer grey? Oh, that’s the upper figure. Yes, I would go with white, white. Such a bright white, Pantone color, that it’s unnatural and would hurt your eyes. Or orange such as Trump to make the instant reference to the specific MAGA hat to hate.

        • JCF

          I honestly believe you’re overthinking this, Oh’behr. I’m certain that gray color is from the original WWII poster. It doesn’t represent any actual skin color, or even skin tone. It just represents Nazis as gray, like their uniforms (now, you could argue that it dehumanizes Germans—but that’s a subject for another day!).

  • Hunter M

    Time to start calling the GOP what it really is. The Nazi Party.

    • William

      The Nazis had better uniforms and saw fitness as a virtue.

  • Clive Johnson

    OT sort of:

    BOMBSHELL: Lawyer Says Stormy Daniels Was Physically Threatened

    https://crooksandliars.com/2018/03/bombshell-lawyer-says-stormy-daniels-was

  • olandp

    I guess, according to the Republicans, we fought on the wrong side in WWII. The Tennessee Republicans just spit on the graves of all WWII solders.

    • David Walker

      We also seem to have wasted a lot of time being anti-Russia. (Please explain, Sen. McCarthy.)

    • Dom Saunders

      Yet they’re the first to say we’re disrespecting the country and the military if we take a knee to protest, you guessed it, bigotry.

    • JCF

      …or in the faces of still-alive WWII soldiers! [See re my dad]

    • Oh’behr in Minnesota

      I suppose TN is implying they don’t need anything Federal funded military in TN after all. Give it to other states which are more loyal to the USA.

  • FAEN

    Call me naive but I never thought I’d see the day when the republicans so nakedly embraced nazism. They’re not even trying to hide it anymore.

    Hope you’re happy Jill Stein/Gary Johnson /purity/52% of white women voters. Nazism is what you voted for!

    • fuow

      Don’t forget – the majority of gay men stayed home. We’re as much to blame.

      • FAEN

        Can you send me a link to that info please.

  • Tom Kidd

    As a son of Tennessee I’m not surprised. We were there on vacation during the summer of 2016 and were very disturbed by what we saw. It was a horrified first inkling that Donald Trump just might become President, and he did.

  • DesertSun59

    Well, there you have it.

  • William

    Ya ve iz da master master race.

  • jimbo65

    So this is where we’re at. Where it’ll take another 20 years until the minimum of a condemnation is expected from the GOP.

  • Charles Nelson

    New Tennessee gubernatorial candidate: Zigmund Hile.

  • canoebum

    The GOP will never condemn their own. Neo-Nazis and White Nationalists are an essential element of the GOP base.

  • John

    I’m not in disbelief, have you been to Tennessee? It’s heaven for racists and child fuckers. It’s one step above Alabama.

  • fuow

    And this is surprising because?
    But, heh – no reason to get out and vote in November. Not one. After all, we all know Nazis only hate brown people, not us gays.

    • UrsusArctos 🐻

      Both sides are the same too! /snark
      Libertarians/Greens forget/ignore/are ignorant of the fact that in Part I of this shitshow the old skool Nazis rounded up ANYONE who could organize (trade unionists, activists, educators). They simply took the ones opposed to them first, then came back later for the rest.

  • Hank

    This is where the original “Never Again” logo/phrase came in. After WWII, It is the motto of the Jewish Defense League and in the title of at least one historical account of the Holocaust.
    According to the great historian of the Holocaust, Raul Hilberg, the phrase “Never Again” first appeared on handmade signs put up by inmates at Buchenwald in April, 1945, shortly after the camp had been liberated by U.S. forces.

  • Dennis McGuire

    And yet my Jewish half-siblings are Republican and pro-Trump. They are so unwilling to acknowledge voting against their own interests.

    • Ben in Oakland

      And yours.

  • Lakeview Bob

    Obviously Republicans hate veterans. This whole thing is an affront to all the men and women veterans that served in World War II fighting Nazism.

  • “I’m in utter disbelief at what just happened,” Clemmons said after the
    meeting. “I didn’t think there was anything controversial about this
    resolution.”

    Naivete in action.

  • Snarky

    The Tennesseean says Clemmons tried to pass the motion because the white nationalist group “Identity Evropa” (they were in Charlottesville at the tiki torch rally) held their national conference in Nashville last weekend, and demonstrated there.

    The Tennesseean reports that Clemmons said he wasn’t sure if he’d try again.

    “I would love to try to pass a resolution denouncing white nationalists and neo-Nazis, but if I can’t even get a second in a subcommittee, it evidences this Republican supermajority’s refusal to denounce these hate organizations, for what reason I cannot begin to imagine.”

  • JWC

    Its a stubborn hold on. Their hope for validation from the GOP didn’t fully come to fruition and now facing a Blue wave they become defiant

  • shivadog

    Of course, Republicans wouldn’t want to alienate their base.

  • Pip

    Repubs aren’t going to alienate their base. Come on…

  • Robin Bailey
  • wds

    How could they renounce what they and their families believe? …

  • ‘Til Tuesday

    This is what happens when one party has a “super” majority as the Republicans do in Tennessee legislature, and a majority of them are of the far-right Evangelical Christian variety. They totally ignore or shoot down anything the few remaining Democrats in the state legislature propose.

    Tennessee is like any other Southern state, in that the rural (e.g. “red”) areas have more votes in the legislature than the “blue” cities. There are 4 or 5 “blue” counties with the majority of the population, and 94 counties that are rural and “red”. So the rural counties can outvote the urban counties every time in the state legislature. All four of Tennessee’s big cities are “blue”, but they are outvoted by the rural areas, giving the impression that the whole state is “red”. That’s not true, and there is a fair representation of us on this site from Tennessee. And we’re fighting to make things better.

    Yes, it’s completely deplorable that the Republicans wouldn’t go for the resolution condemning white nationalism and neo-Nazism. There are plenty of us in Tennessee who are just as appalled.