FLORIDA: Gov. Rick Scott Unveils $500M Plan To Boost School Security, Raise Gun Purchase Age To 21

NBC News reports:

Florida Gov. Rick Scott revealed a $500 million plan Friday to boost school security that would, among other things, bar “violent or mentally ill” persons from purchasing weapons. Persons under the age of 21 would also be prohibited from buying guns and so-called bump stocks would be outlawed, Scott said.

Scott did not call for arming teachers as President Donald Trump has suggested and declined to ban the semi-automatic AR-15 type rifle that Nikolas Cruz allegedly used to killed 17 people on Valentine’s Day at the high school in Parkland, Florida. “Banning specific weapons is not going to fix this,” said Scott.

Scott also called for $450 million to upgrade school security with metal detectors and other measures and assigning a “law enforcement officer in every public school” and expand “mental health initiatives.”

  • bkmn

    I would guess he is betting this bill will die in the state legislature.

    • Tulle Christensen

      And help his Senate run a win win

      • bkmn

        Yup, he gets to say he tried.

        • liondon#iamnotatraitor

          Tie it to a bill hurting the gayz… I tried but the liberals opposed me.

      • northern_neighbour

        This is his ENTIRE motivation. The man is a sociopathic & craven piece of shit.

    • RyanInIllinois

      Yep. The NRA is going to torpedo this bill with due haste.

    • Gregory B

      How much did the NRA “donate” to the governor’s election campaign?

  • safari

    Wow. Writing In Capitalized Words Is Irritating Is It Not?

    • Butch

      Maybe it was supposed to look like a headline? Yes, it is annoying.

    • RyanInIllinois

      Seriously. I was trying to figure out if it was The Title of Something.

    • DoctorDJ


  • Lars Littlefield

    WAY Off Topic: A friend is turning 70 tomorrow. So we’re headed out the door to meet up and celebrate in Las Vegas. Miss Thing’s last performance of her Memories tour is at The Wynn in Las Vegas tomorrow. I’m looking forward to seeing Ernestine Earl move her 73-year-old bones across the stage. I just checked the weather and it’s the same in Vegas as it is here. It’s an 8 hour road trip, so wish us luck. Luis doesn’t know who Diana Ross is, so I’m excited to witness his reaction.

    • Mark McGovern

      Sounds like fun! Enkoy and drive safe.

    • thatotherjean

      Good luck, and have a great time. Sounds wonderful!

  • Butch

    A law enforcement officer WAS present, you moron. Please do something useful.

    • Tulle Christensen

      Not in Bat Boy’s playbook

      • Butch

        That nickname is so incredibly deserved it’s almost scary.

  • Rocco

    Someone is hearing footsteps….

  • Mike

    Adam Lanza’s mother was an adult who would have passed any background check and mental health evaluation thrown at her, and yet she was enough of a psycho to have filled her house with guns, legally purchased by her, where her crazy kid had access to them, and he used them to murder little schoolchildren.

    The only solution is banning guns. We should start with assault weapons then work our way to the rest.

    • thatotherjean

      Didn’t Adam Lanza kill his mother first, with her own gun?

  • Slippy_World
    • ETownCanuck

      I said basically the exact same thing yesterday. Not only was Chris Kyle gunned down, but so was his colleague…and this was after they had made comments to each each to be on their guard because they got bad vibes from the guy before he shot them. If two highly trained individuals can be shot and killed before even unholstering their weapon in protection, what chance does Debbie from Advanced Calculus have?

      • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

        Maths solve EVERYTHING!

      • Harveyrabbit

        She could ask them difficult questions to confuse them.


      • Steverino

        Let’s hope Debbie sticks with Advanced Calculus and doesn’t become trig happy…

        • ETownCanuck

          I suppose I should have specified that Debbie was the Teacher…but your comment still applies.

  • boobert

    I’ll believe it when it passes.

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    Have any of you ever read reports of anyone successfully defending themselves and their property by using an AR-15? I haven’t. And what animals would you use an AR-15 to hunt in Florida?

  • Bluto
    • kaydenpat

      Exactly. Republicans are always attacking public school teachers so it’s galling that they want teachers to risk their lives instead of changing legislation regarding access to guns. The nerve!!

    • Thorn Spike

      Did Miss Othmar have to buy her own bullets?

    • JustDucky

      Teachers do, though. Over and over we’ve seen teachers use their bodies as shields to protect their students.

      Aaron Feis at Parkland.
      Victoria Soto at Newtown.
      Liviu Librescu at Virginia Tech.

      “Hero teacher dies” is part of the fucking script.

      We have to ban the guns. No one needs a semi-automatic rifle.

      • Reality.Bites

        That’s quite true that they do. It really boils down to the vast majority of teachers knowing that even if an armed teacher IS the solution, they are absolutely unqualified to be one of them.

        It’s pretty much the way most of us know teaching is a job we could never do ourselves and admire those who can and do so, for so little reward. Even in the golden age of being a teacher – whenever that might have been – it was not a job many of us would want at any salary, let alone the one available.

        It’s much the way we admire (mostly) police officers, soldiers, pilots, health care workers, fire fighters, judges, lawyers and (once upon a time) many politicians – they take on, often at huge self-sacrifice, a job that we know we’re utterly unable to do ourselves.

        There are also always people who take on jobs we’re perfectly capable of doing, but we wouldn’t consider because they’re too unpleasant or boring or don’t pay well. Chances are the people doing them would rather be with their friends, or taking care of their family, or looking after themselves. These people deserve our respect and admiration as well.

        NB Of course any of these people could still be one of these AND an absolutely horrible human being.

  • Bambino

    You get a Band-Aid, you get a Band-Aid, look under your chair, you get a Band-Aid! Everyone gets a Band-Aid! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2df56cd4bdc1c07172db012e65e95f57f2e78c1bd68a4f9cd7d3f49c277d0a52.gif

  • Lazycrockett

    Banning certain weapons would sure as fuck fix it.

  • JWC

    Spoken like a true NRA puppet no fucking spine Well as was said on TV last night enjoy your time it won;t be long

  • Jim Maloney

    “Banning specific weapons is not going to fix this,” said Scott

    It would likely help. A lot.

    • kaydenpat

      Banning guns has worked in so many other countries. Not sure why it wouldn’t work here.

      • Bad Tom

        They are lying to us.

      • Reality.Bites

        One problem the US has is that other countries banned them (or the craziest kinds of them) long before there were countless millions of currently-legal ones in the hands of citizens, not to mention illegal ones.

        Also in these countries, owning one or more guns is something that the vast majority of people REALLY don’t want to do. And where it’s probably true of a great many run owners as well. They may sustenance hunt, as many rural or Arctic Inuit, First Nations and other people do. And obviously in those rural and arctic areas people need to protect themselves from large predators. And those rural areas start pretty darn close outside our cities these days.

        But most of those people, ideally, would rather not have to worry about predators or have to hunt in order to feed their families, even if they take pride in how well they do so,

    • Christopher

      My response to Scott would be “Couldn’t hurt. Let’s try it and see.”

  • Bambino
    • Bambino
      • Bambino
        • Tulle Christensen

          Symantec (Norton) already has said discount deal will end next month

          • Lars Littlefield

            So have Hertz, Avis and Budget.

            Woops! Wrong! I was mistaken. The news is that they “plan” to, The haven’t done shit yet. 🙁

          • Tulle Christensen

            Thanks for the good news

      • Tulle Christensen

        When you order online and if FedEx is the only shipping option, let the seller know why you are going to look somewhere else

    • Tulle Christensen

      Pretty sure LifeLock can be scratched off the list

    • prixator

      That doesn’t seem to be a complete list (and it really doesn’t claim to); I just read a tweet that Wyndham Hotels has dropped their affiliation with the NRA.

      • Bambino

        Probably the most recognize companies.

        • prixator

          There are plenty more – United Airlines for one. The U.S. is so close to Toronto, but so often it seems like another planet. I cannot imagine any organization here advocating for an unfettered right to own almost any type of gun being supported by so many large, national consumer corporations.

  • tbj5

    “Banning the weapon that keeps being used to commit these massacres over and over and over again and thst no one honestly needs for self-defence won’t stop anything.”

    • kaydenpat

      This is curiously only true in the U.S.

      • Tulle Christensen

        We are special

  • Ben in Oakland

    But if you dmaned freedom haters ban them from purchasing guns, they’ll just purchase knives, baseball bats, and cars.
    Wayne LaPierre.

    • kaydenpat

      How many people can you massacre with any of those items though? It’s infuriating that we even have to have this discussion. Should be a no brainer.

      • iambu

        No Brain Wayne!

      • Ben in Oakland

        That was precisely my point.

    • Bad Tom

      I’m good with that.

      • Ben in Oakland

        so am i.

  • TexasBoy

    Because, you know, no one younger than 21 could possibly get a gun from someone older? Is there a law stopping 21 year old from purchasing a gun for their child?

    Crickett .22 rifles designed for kids:


  • Boreal

    A ploy to make it appear that he is doing something (to boost his senate bid) when this will die in the legislature . Yet FL voters will fall for this considering he and Marco have both been re-elected before. Florida voters, you voted for death and mayhem and voted dump into office.

    • ChrisMorley

      I thought Florida is now home to hundreds of thousands of royally pissed off hispanic hurricane survivors who will vote democratic?

      • Boreal

        Time will tell.

  • greenmanTN

    I trust Rick Scott about as far as I could throw him. This is just a bandaid so the NRA owned ammosexuals can pretend they actually give a fuck. Spoiler Alert: they don’t.

  • kaydenpat

    I guess this is a good move. It defies the NRA so that’s a good thing.

  • netxtown

    sounds like spackle to me….you know….that stuff you rub in a crack to cover up stuff that just ruins an Better Homes &Gardens image…..spackle.

  • Bambino
    • prixator

      She’s at 540K at 3:30, Saturday afternoon, so she’s now passed the NRA. Onward and upwards!

  • netxtown

    you can bet the NRA has got hotlines a-blazin with sure-fire guidance…

  • SkokieGuy / May attempt snark

    Translation: Obama’s out of office, so without the BLACK GUY TAKES YOUR GUNS meme, the NRA will kill the restrictions, but support turning schools into armed fortresses and use tax dollars to buy more guns for all those guards.

  • Boreal

    Shooting reported on Louisiana college campus; 2 injured


  • Lazycrockett
  • Cuberly Deux

    More good news. Damn! Now I can’t remove it from some of my users systems.

    “Symantec ends NRA membership deals after backlash”

    “Symantec has stopped its discount program with the National Rifle Association,” a company spokesperson told The Verge in a statement. No other information on the decision was given.


    • bkmn

      The NRA can always crawl in bed with Kaspersky, if they haven’t already.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Heh…wouldn’t put it past them.

      • Tulle Christensen

        And I am sure Kaspersky has no back doors known only to Russian hackers

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          And Russian hookers.

      • Tread

        Where do you think their financial backing is coming from?

  • bkmn
    • Tulle Christensen

      Well for some definitions of “don’t do”

    • Halou
    • Tread

      It’s as if their constant gas lighting is expected to be accepted by everyone.

    • Reality.Bites

      You mean T-shirts don’t automatically display the truth?

      Does this in fact mean that at one point those “I’m a Virgin” t-shirts not only weren’t very old, but were in fact brand new and completely true?

      Why, this is HUGE. This changes everything!

  • Blake J Butler
    • TampaDink

      Good for her!

  • Snarky

    Scott was a no-show at the CNN town hall meeting the other night. And he’s running for senator. So he needs to put this position out there, regardless of the fact the legislature likely won’t let it move forward. He will run on the position, not the success of the position.

  • Butch

    Completely off topic but I need to share Charles P. Pierce’s summary of Trump’s “speech” at CPAC:
    NATIONAL HARBOR—President Trump delivered an hour-long speech at CPAC on Friday that touched on job creation, immigration, chain migration, merit-based migration, his forthcoming Mexican border wall, the dangers of complacency, his own bald spot, tax cuts, the Parkland shooting, his support for the 2nd amendment, concealed carry, the need to arm school teachers, the war on coal, the Iran deal, China, his 2011 CPAC speech, John McCain’s dramatic healthcare vote, the trade deficit, standing for the national anthem, recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, easier access to guns on military bases, his intent to display the corpse of Billy Graham inside the Capitol rotunda, MS-13, DACA, the Paris Accords, the fact that people run to stay in shape, Foxconn, mental illness, unemployment, the results of the 2016 election, worshipping God, the notion that he used to get really good publicity and no longer does, West Virginia, Neil Gorsuch, a protester who was hauled out by security, his own image on the jumbo-tron, and his desire to watch himself speak. He also recited the lyrics to a song called “The Snake.”

    • Treant

      Sounds about right. That means he averaged 30 second per topic, so he’d definitely taken his pills this morning. Undrugged, it’s 10 seconds.

      • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

        Steve Schmidt was on fire on twitter about the more disgusting aspects of his speech

        Edit: reply was to butch but it works here too

        • TampaDink

          I’ve grown to no longer loathe Steve Schmidt….it will take time for me to rise to the point of liking him….but he is moving in the right direction.

          • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

            I’m probably a little more forgiving of these folks and it’s interesting seeing them have these revelations in real time.

    • RaygunsGoZap

      Wait! Billy Graham’s corpse on display?

      • WNY

        Will they have him nailed to a cross or something? /s

      • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

        It was for at least the last 20 years

      • D. J.

        Perhaps Le Pen would be interested in volunteering to be on the other side of the display cross? It would be terrible for it go off balance and tip over.

      • thatotherjean

        “Lying in State” (although I don’t think they’re calling it that, since he wasn’t a politician), in the Capitol Rotunda, for two days.

        • yes b’y

          Won’t he start to smell?

          • PeterC

            Having his corpse in the Capitol sure smells.

    • thatotherjean

      Ah–the whole album of Donald Trump’s Greatest Hits, then?

    • Stogiebear

      James Joyce just swore off alcohol and started spinning in his grave.

    • Mike__in_Houston

      So many topics in one hour? Sounds like stream of unconsciousness…

  • TK

    The NRA won’t agree with this and for sure will try to kill it in the legislature.

    • Gregory B

      The most effective solution would be to kill the NRA. It’s time to arrest Lapierre and his enablers, charge them with terrorism, influence peddling, death threats, whatever! The government should seize all NRA assets. ban all assault weapons (except the military) and require future gun owners to undergo education, counselling, a physical and mental health check before being granted a license to own a firearm. Then and only then, would a person be permitted to purchase a gun. Make gun ownership a privilege and not a right.

  • Bad Tom

    Banning specific weapon types IS going to fix this. Like it has everywhere else in the world.

  • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

    Raising the age; With 18 year olds going into the military? Ain’t gonna happen.

    Mental health gun ban; Lots of these shooters don’t ever see a doctor to be diagnosed with a mental health issue.

    Next, Skeletor? Any more faulty optics you want to speculate on?

    • iambu

      My bipolar wasn’t diagnosed until I was 22. I would not, SHOULD NOT*, pass a background check. I have too many strong opinions about the mental health facet of this debate to get into it now, but the pandemic inability to access care in time to help a very troubled person is a pretty key factor here. A friend of mine who’s also treated for severe depression told me he’s glad he’d have a hard time buying a gun of any kind legally, because he told me if he had one, he’d definitely have shot himself by now. We’re lucky to have had enough treatment to allow us to recognize these fatal dangers. Most people are not.

      *Not because I’m violent/homicidal/etc., but for my own safety.

      • not a user 220000

        Thank you for sharing your story with us, iambu.

        • iambu

          Thank you for listening! <3

      • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

        Thank you for your courage to be vocal about your health. You’re voice helps to de stigmatize the issue.

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          P.S. In my latter years, I was diagnosed with long-term, clinical depression, PTSD, bipolar, and anxiety. In my state, I can still buy, and own, an assault weapon.

        • iambu

          Thanks for helping give me a safe place to do it!

      • CharlestonDave

        If a person already owning guns were advised to obtain mental health treatment, do you think the prospect of losing their guns would make them less willing to begin treatment?

        • iambu

          It’s certainly part of the problem worth considering, so the fact that we’re asking it now, ahead of time, gives us the opportunity to strategize how to best handle that issue. There are a whole bunch of factors already that disincentive some people from getting treatment. Stigma, in its myriad forms, is the biggest and most obvious. There are a lot of jobs that can be endangered by disclosing a mental health issue. In fact, I myself have been advised by a career counselor not to mention it at work unless there was an emergency or a *very* good reason. Similarly, in the 70’s through today, my diabetic mother has found it professionally advantageous to conceal her illness at work. Diabetes! Now, these are just two anecdotal examples, but it’s still worth noting that after over a decade of mental healthcare for a commonly misunderstood illness, and up against stigma, insurance BS, medication difficulties, and yes, even occasional joblessness, I still chose help. ‘Cause I don’t wanna die (neither does my mom, by the way, she just jumps through a lot of dumb hoops, but we all deal with this shit in different ways). So, I can’t claim my viewpoint is universal, and surely there will always be people who’ll choose their guns over psychiatric help, just like there are currently people who choose a whole of other things over it. That sucks, doesn’t it? It really is a good thing that we have this time to figure out some workable solutions. I gotta think on this one.

  • Sam_Handwich


    Dotard’s doing a joint presser with the Australian PM at 2


    • Lumpy Gaga

      It’s 2:00.

      I can haz plea?

  • rednekokie

    Well, that’s a start, and one has to give him credit for bucking his legislature — but the proof is in the pudding of getting the law passed, and enforced.

    • Tread

      They’re empty words when Florida legislators won’t even hear gun control legislation, even with newly-minted survivors looking on.

  • Tor

    So going to school will be like getting into an airport. Charming.

    • Halou

      Betsy DeVos’ private schools initiative will look much more attractive if public schools are run like airports/prisons.
      That and “home schooling”.

  • royinhell

    Kudos to those Parkland kids for making this happen- I doubt anything would be done without their speaking up. Small steps, but in the right direction!

  • thatotherjean

    Rick Scott is backing various forms of gun control?

    It’s the end of the world as we know it. . .
    And I feel fine.

    Now to get it through the legislature. I’m not holding my breath, considering how many legislators are in the pockets of the NRA. Scott may figure that it has no chance, but talking the talk makes him look good. Weirder things than the barest beginnings of gun control being passed in Florida, though, so I have hope. Keep up the good work, Scott, and congratulations to the school shooting survivors who brought this about.

    • There goes the A+ NRA Rating! He just gained a serious primary challenger on his right for that Senate bid.

  • Silver Badger

    Don’t you just hate it when a politician won’t stay bought! I wonder how much more the NRA will have to shell out to bring skeletor back in line?

  • Natty Enquirer

    Maybe they can bring the TSA to every campus.

  • Tomcat

    He did not say under 21’s could NOT own guns, they just cannot buy them for themselves.

  • Tomcat

    Maybe a mental quiz should be required before the gun will fire for people.
    Might save countless lives in the south anyway.

  • Pip

    Raising the age limit isn’t going to fix this. The vast majority of mass shooters were between the ages of 20 and 49. I don’t get why civilians need AR15 riffles or the like. There is no reason for it. My brother and his wife own two each, when I asked them why their only reasoning was because they might be outlawed. They could not give any other reason besides that. They bought them to spite those who see no reason for them to have them.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Assault weapons were banned from 1994 to 2004. Then the NRA saw to it that the ban was never revived.

      • Pip

        Yep, and they are making it impossible for anyone to put in place any type of common sense laws that could ban them again.

  • Reality.Bites

    While I do not think this policy goes far enough, nor do I think Florida will implement it anyway, I have to give Scott credit for not completely lacking intelligence both logical and emotional.

    It’s very sad indeed that he stands virtually alone in his party in that.

  • It Takes a Village, People

    Isn’t this the same state where they are forcing religion into public spaces?

  • This is still a defensive proposal, rather than seeking to reduce the threat of the guns themselves. On the other hand, it’s better than nothing, or worse to make gun laws even more lax which has been the GOP/NRA go-to habit for the last several years.

    • E.J.

      If you do a Google drive by of Douglas HS you will notice they have a “hardened” entrance. Steel gates that need a key for entry. You will also notice that at this main entry and at the exterior door by the theater, someone has braced the doors open with trash cans….kind or defeats the purpose.

  • Hue-Man

    So the security theater at airports has metastasized to sports stadiums and school campuses. Next it will be your corner grocery store.

    The money for security will surely be taken away from educating students. Safe but stupid students is the result – more GOP voters.

  • Harveyrabbit
  • dcurlee

    Seriously its the automatic weapons that are the problem

  • Stogiebear

    Florida has 4200 public schools. This means that each school will on average have $119,000 given over to them for this security theater. That MIGHT be enough for one year; however it probably means that each school will have two or three fewer teachers to tote guns around in their mission to protect students instead of educate them.

    • Ninja0980

      And Scott and Republicans will have no problem with that.

  • Boy Elvis

    Wait, what? Skeletor must be really scared of public opinion in Florida if he’s even briefly considering this.

  • Scott is widely expected to run against Bill Nelson for Nelson’s US Senate seat. Voters — especially of those for whom this will be their first election after turning 18 — won’t forget that Nelson and Rubio participated in the CNN town hall but Scott refused to attend.

  • Jeff Breeze

    to quote Captain Kirk, ” Your timing is excellent, you fix the barn door AFTER the horses come home.”

  • Gerry Fisher

    The shooter was known to the mental health system, targeted a school with an armed security guard, and was intent on barging past any metal detectors. You’d be implementing very expensive measures that would have done *nothing* to prevent the situation that just happened. (And how do you define/determine “violent” and “mental health”?)

    • Clive Johnson

      Yes, it’s a sheer waste of money when sensible gun regulation would cost tons less.

  • Hank

    He was the one, who opened up the Gun Laws in Florida!!! Now he wants to give an INSIGNIFICANT “fix”!!!

  • Wisterley

    “Banning specific weapons is not going to fix this,” said Scott. From a doctor in the Parkland ER:

    I was looking at a CT scan of one of the victims of the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, who had been brought to the trauma center during my call shift. The organ looked like an overripe melon smashed by a sledgehammer, with extensive bleeding. How could a gunshot wound have caused this much damage?

    The reaction in the emergency room was the same. One of the trauma surgeons opened a young victim in the operating room, and found only shreds of the organ that had been hit by a bullet from an AR-15, a semi-automatic rifle which delivers a devastatingly lethal, high-velocity bullet to the victim. There was nothing left to repair, and utterly, devastatingly, nothing that could be done to fix the problem. The injury was fatal.


  • glass

    Making a school feel like entering a prison is an unhealthy learning environment. Regulate guns, don’t make schools into a police state.

  • James

    What good are armed guards and metal detectors going to do when the shooter simply kills the guard and strolls through the machine?

  • Gianni

    It’s interesting how these people do not try figuring out ways to suppress the cause and the reason for all this suggested fortification of schools. For Christ’s sake, they are SCHOOLS, not fortresses. Try changing the conditions that allow the easy purchase of these weapons. That’s a process that should be strictly and heavily controlled. Those deep background checks put in place by Obama’s administration were one of the first things that Dear Leader overrode and eliminated when he planted his ass behind the desk in the Oval Office. Now this goofy administration is letting it be known that Dear Leader is considering pushing legislation for deeper background checks and eliminating some of the loopholes. Gee, now where did Dear Leader ever get that idea?

  • MassageBear

    Florida shooting survivor: “We should call AR-15’s ‘Marco Rubio’ because they’re both easy to buy.”

  • Ann Kah

    Put that money into a gun buy-back program.

  • D. J.

    No way is slickRick actually going to cough up $500M.