Yet Another GOP House Rep Heads For The Exit

Politico reports:

House Transportation Chairman Bill Shuster (R-Pa.) announced Tuesday that he’s stepping down at the end of his term, joining the fast-growing wave of GOP lawmakers to head for the exits. Since he is term-limited out of the committee’s chairmanship after three terms, many insiders had speculated that this would be Shuster’s last year in Congress.

With today’s announcement, Shuster joins a long list of Republicans stepping down in 2018, including Aviation Subcommittee Chairman Frank LoBiondo of New Jersey, T&I Committee Vice Chairman John Duncan of Tennessee and committee member Blake Farenthold of Texas.

  • Sam_Handwich

    kthxbai

    • johncAtl

      I hope the reason for such a short comment isn’t that your fingers have frozen.

    • another_steve

      I had to google.

      I’m not good with internet acronyms.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      byekthx

  • PlutoAnimus

    Let’s see, are we still on ‘rats fleeing a sinking ship,’ or it this yet another ‘another one bites the dust’?

    So many quitting Republican members of Congress. We need the government to subsidize more metaphors.

    • Prost Seattle

      Nah, they don’t need them. They have these things called pensions. You remember what those were don’t you?

  • bkmn
    • That_Looks_Delicious

      So is Florida. The FL GOP can’t get anybody to run for Ileana Ros-Lehtinen’s seat.

      • bkmn

        Sending thoughts and prayers for both states*

        * thoughts may not be safe for work

  • safari

    I can’t tell if this is a normal number or R’s leaving or a larger than normal number… that may one day want to plead for leniency.

  • Ninja0980

    He likely have a cushy lobbying job lined up so why does he need to stay in Congress anymore?

    • safari

      Sonority?

      • safari

        For the sake of his constituents?

        • clay

          LOL

  • JWC

    Rats from a sinking ship or ratz from a stinking shit

  • bkmn

    Of course, Farenthold has other reasons for resigning, like a history of sexual harassment that the House paid out a legal claim for thousands with our tax dollars.

  • Henry Auvil

    Don’t let the door hit you on the shuster…

  • Bambino
    • That_Looks_Delicious

      Perfect.

  • This large of an exodus is not exactly common, is it?
    I mean, other presidents had this many people ditch them, right?
    Right?
    Bueller?

    • Cuberly Deux

      I’ve been wondering the same thing.

    • The_Wretched

      15 or so from majority party in off years is normal. This year is a little high but not huge yet.

  • Slippy_World
  • another_steve

    Well at least the pretty ones aren’t leaving.

    • safari

      Doug Jone’s son’s crooked smile made me remark upon it thanks to your influence.

      • another_steve

        Glad to be of any influence whatsoever these days.

        Even if it’s a bad influence.

  • Durwood

    Pass it around. This billboard for criminal Matt Gaetz is real and in Pensacola today, crowdfunded
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/58a7218b0dcc9d5097751d231390f86175ba743814a382b886afc34643fc11b7.jpg

    • Sam_Handwich

      does that say at bottom “Paid for by Mad Dog PAC?”

      wonder who that is

      • KCMC

        Surly not the liquor lobby.

        • if your post is any indication not only have you visited the liquor “loby” but their cabinet too…smooches!

          • That_Looks_Delicious

            Getting surly, sir? LOL

            I got no room to talk. It is *really* hard to type out comments correctly on my phone.

          • I’ve been sick for a week now…surely you’d also be surly!

          • Craig Howell

            “And don’t call me surly!”

          • KCMC

            Ha. Thanks, corrected.
            1st day out of igloo in days. Yesterday was bursting frozen basement pipes turbo waterfeature.
            Hot plumber /apprentice saved day. And left fantasy fodder for days.

      • Bambino

        Not sure if this is them.
        http://maddogmail.com/

      • SoCalGal20

        Supposedly Claude Taylor’s (one of Louise Mensch’s sidekicks) group. They’ve been raising money for billboards in certain Republican districts.

        • Bambino

          Why would they sink one of their own?

          • Todd20036

            Probably because his indiscretions are so public they cannot be hidden.

          • Sporkfighter

            You mean like Moore?

        • Yep. He’s listed as a contact on the PAC’s FEC Form1.

    • greenmanTN

      Distilleries, the rare industry that’s ashamed of their best customers.

    • bkmn

      This person has an interesting take on it…

      https://twitter.com/Acrobat60/status/948339583263141888

  • penpal

    I predict 2018 is going to be the teabaggiest year yet. We think we’ve seen dumb GOP politicians before….but we ain’t seen anything yet. Brace yourselves. Trump has lowered the bar so much that a functioning pulse is about the only qualification necessary.

    • safari

      They will get more vicious as the long-term trajectory becomes more apparent. Only once no more money can be made from them in the mid-term will they dissolve.

  • justme

    They’ve done their disservice..Got their govt pensions locked in…Time to flee before the population learns the truth..

    • canoebum

      It takes time to plan an expat life in a warm climate. These guys need some lead time to get all the off-shore funds in order and buy the right real estate. Civil service pays so well.

  • Judas Peckerwood

    What, no sex scandal?!!!

    • justme

      You sure anyone would want sex with THAT!!!

      • Judas Peckerwood

        I didn’t mean to suggest anything consensual.

    • Paula

      Not it!!!

    • clay

      “In 2015, Shuster … admitted to having a “close private and personal relationship” with a top lobbyist for the Airline industry.
      –Wikipedia, from Pittsburgh Post Gazette, Politico, and NY Mag.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Stick around to break it all, then bail. Sounds about right.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/8lfnbra12td2U/giphy.gif

    • KCMC

      No wonder we can’t have nice things now.

    • clay

      Is that a flying monkey falling off the Titanic?

      • Cuberly Deux

        Propeller…OUCH!

  • another_steve

    Rats. Sinking ship. Jumping.

  • JT

    Fuck ’em all out! Fuck ’em! Then march them to the guillotine!
    https://media.giphy.com/media/wSRFaMfu2WeD6/giphy.gif

  • SoCalGal20

    How likely is it this guy’s district can be flipped?

    • clay

      Not very. Small town/rural south-central PA. They’ve gerrymandered out the biggest of the college towns for him. The Dems only have party bosses to serve as challengers in that region.

    • Sam_Handwich

      Pennsylvania’s 9th congressional district has been a relatively safe seat for the Republicans since 1933.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania%27s_9th_congressional_district

      Bill took over for his father, Bud in 2001

      • clay

        Bud was also Transportation Chair, who also had an unusually close and personal relationship with a lobbyist, and who saw his job as loosening transportation safety rules, rather than managing transportation infrastructure.

        • Treant

          State rumor also had it that Bud also saw his job as ejaculating in said lobbyist’s mouth.

          • clay

            Probably why he was NOT the one who complained about the missing campaign fund money ending up in her lobbyist bank account.

    • Treant

      PA District 9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania%27s_9th_congressional_district

      I’d call it highly unlikely that this district would shift. He won against Hamburg by +24 in 2012. In 2014, he won a 3 way race by +18.

      The district is filled with disaffected white coal miners and snuggles up to West Virginia.

      • SoCalGal20

        LOL probably not…

        • Treant

          No, probably not.

          This year? I’m not sure.

          • SoCalGal20

            I mean I suppose it’s always possible the R candidate has some huge scandal after the primary and the ballot deadline or something…

          • Treant

            Maybe Moore will move to Pennsylvania…

    • Ninja0980

      Next to none, as this is part of Pennsyltucky.

    • John Davis

      Well, after Alabama’s senate seat went to a Dem, almost ANY thing is possible…especially if the Repubs nominate another wanker pederast anti-gay Bible-over-Constitution-lover.

  • billbear1961
    • John Davis

      I have no idea whatsoever why you posted this here. (Perhaps I’m just not sharp enough to catch the reason or joke or whatever, very possible!) But I love that symphony and always have.

      • billbear1961

        It was meant to be a comment on the times.

        But you may consider it off-topic, if you like.

        🙂

      • billbear1961

        Actually, THIS excerpt is even more on-topic (to me, anyway), the mood it creates (but I’ve posted it so MANY times):

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcrwxo-LHn4&feature=youtu.be&t=12m6s

        • pj

          thank you….its lovely

          • billbear1961

            Lovely, but ominous, especially as we get closer and closer to the end.

            (Hello, pj!)

          • pj

            cant happen fast enough mr bear.

          • billbear1961

            Goodness–I wasn’t expecting a response after 20 hours!

            🙂

  • Tomcat

    I wonder how many are dropping because of trump and how many are dropping because of the skeletons in their closets.

    • John Davis

      My bet is that they have skeletons. Who gives up a cushy, do-nothing $178K a year with full bennies job where you are semi famous and loved by most of your voting constituents ? I bet he’s had his way with a few women, (or men) somewhere back there in his past and knows the flashlight is about to be turned-on to show his past.

      EIther that, or some lobby group or whatever offered him DOUBLE the salary and bennies for even LESS work.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        Or they have their own internal polling (most campaigns do) that’s telling them for whom the bell tolls.

    • lymis

      Or, just spitballing here, they got a memo from their Russian blackmailers that they leave or their emails get released.

      • clay

        so, “both”.

  • safari

    I’m watching Aeon Flux. I want to say it is the height of Matrix heterosexual male fantasy.

    • safari

      And Jonny Lee Miller is in it.

      • clay

        I was going to ask animation or movie, but that answers the question.
        They had very different endings.

        • safari

          I only knew the live action movie. It’s so very much a product of its time.

          • clay

            The MTV / Liquid Television animated shorts are on YouTube. I won’t spoil their consistent endings.

          • The_Wretched

            I loved those.

    • Megrim Twist

      I’ll watch anything with Charlize Theron! GIRL IS FIERCE

    • The_Wretched

      Go find the old liquid television animated Ason Flux, danger boy. Also, I really like watching Me. The Ron in the otherwise only ok live action version.

  • Boreal
  • Friday’s_cat

    Rats leaving the floundering Trumptanic?

    • TuuxKabin

      Their pockets so full of $ they’ll hopefully sink and drown.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Treant

      I’m sorry, but…these days? Anybody attempting to spank me against my will at the office is more likely to get a pen through the eye than a simple lawsuit.

      Let’s see you spank people when you have no depth perception.

      • Friday’s_cat

        I once asked an education major if she got an A in spanking. I got in so much trouble.

      • clay

        Spank me once, shame on you.
        Break a blood vessel, and you might get an elbow in the throat.

        • Stephen Elliot Phillips

          whats your safe word??

          • clay

            Well, it’s kind of long —
            “If you ever do that again, I will kill you.”

      • Ninja0980

        Swift kick to their midsection here.

    • Bambino

      Where is the line up to spank the dotard? One will need a national effort to spank the dementia out of the orange gibbon.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bf9beaf95b0c72b2f24de7bb5f4778ede5e833f16c11c180880befea755aff3f.png

      • safari

        I’ll be traveling southward in the next couple months. I’ve been asked to retrieve my greatgrandfather’s working arm. Last I checked 5 years ago, it was still hanging in the barn where he left it.

        He once told a story of when he got paddled in school. The girl in front of him kept whipping her pony tail. He seized it and locked it into his ink bottle. When she swong next, it flew across the room and shattered.

        By the time I was told the story, it was a point of pride.

      • shellback

        Yep, that’s a paddlin’.

    • clay

      Ayers :: Ailes?

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      There were reporters that went along with this?

      WTF Alabama?

    • lymis

      Doctor of what? Divinity?

    • whollyfool

      I beg your pardon?

    • gaycuckhubby

      What?!?
      I have sooo many questions!

  • BeaverTales

    PA is now a swing state.

    • Friday’s_cat

      Pittsburgh and Philadelphia with Alabama in the middle.

    • clay

      PA is a swing state, but this is an individual gerrymandered district.

      • Bambino

        In other words, even if the Republican caught live on tv raping children, he will still win?

        • clay

          There are limits, surely, I think, hopefully.
          And on this specific example, Penn State was removed from this district.

          • Bambino

            With dotard at the helm we are living in the outer limits.

          • Bluto

            roy. moore.

          • clay

            state. wide.

    • Friday’s_cat

      Only if the metro voters show up at the polls. They didn’t for Hillary and Trump won.

  • SoCalGal20
  • That_Looks_Delicious
  • ColoMtnWoman

    Looks like all the right-wing sick-fucks are heading for the exits… GOOD!! I’m going to enjoy the mid-terms… A LOT! LOLOLOL

    • Friday’s_cat

      Shuster is what Savage refers to as a Checked Pants republican and until Trump came along Rush Limbaugh called a Country Club republican.

  • FelineMama

    OK. I wish I knew how to do GIF’s.”ABTD”. Clue Mr. Mercury, Mr. Bowie. Someone.
    Lovin’ It!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • JT

    I saw a guy at the gym like this and I wanted to use his abs and obliques as a tongue scraper.
    https://78.media.tumblr.com/4d80fa8dd091414e6cdbe4a1c5c7aff2/tumblr_on15s0kz9e1uzn77yo6_400.gif

    • clay

      I’m so hoping that is off topic.

    • another_steve

      There was a guy like that on the supermarket checkout line today. The temperature is in the mid-teens here but boy wasn’t wearing a jacket or coat – only a tight tee.

      If I had what he has, I’d do the same.

  • JohnJay

    Now they’re leaving because they got their tax cuts, and it doesn’t pay any longer to stay in a government job. They can now make the big bucks (and take most advantage of the tax cuts) in the private market, a “think tank” or eventually a lobbyist.
    .

  • SoCalGal20

    Well. I wonder who this is? Stephen Miller? Steve Bannon? Which Trump admin racist was it?

    https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/948321704572485632

    • safari

      I guess we’re taking the race angle to its end.

      • safari

        Which really as it has to be. Demographics don’t lie.

        • Friday

          So damn shortsighted of them, too. (what else is new with Republicans.) A sensible plan given the demographics would be to *not* make racial and other tensions *worse* but instead make sure the country’s about the *ideals* of *equality* and *diversity* and all.

      • KCMC

        Sad. Ongoing.

    • Tomcat

      What the hell is believable anymore?

      • safari

        The integrity of leaders like Mueller who have actively stomped out being in the limelight.

      • coram nobis

        Not this, it reads like disinformation. Dirt.

    • clay

      Oh, so they don’t hate the federal government, they just hate DC?

      • safari

        DC is the swamp. With PoC.

        • clay

          For the GOP, K Street is high ground.

          • safari

            So long as tricks aren’t brought home after 8pm.

    • clay

      Junior, Stone, and Bannon seem the ones most oriented to the entertainment industry.

    • Tread

      I’m glad it doesn’t consist of the dumblefucks who make up Trump supporters.

    • coram nobis

      Of the 20 jurors, 11 are African-Americans and two were wearing “peace T-shirts,” the witness said. “There was only one white male in the room, and he was a prosecutor.” Mueller was not present.

      Page six sounds a bit racist, here. Whose this source? Coo Clucks? Cagey Bee?

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        That writer is no doubt part of the Putin brigade. Cernovich or Pobosiec maybe?

        • Cuberly Deux

          Pshaw! They’re not anti-black they’re just white supremacists, see the distinction?

          /s

      • clay

        DC is 50% Black, so 55% of a jury being Black sounds . . . about right.

        • SoCalGal20

          Exactly!

        • coram nobis

          They’re still going to claim this is a biased jury.

          • clay

            absolutely. And they’re going to do on race, without bothering to even imply Blacks are Dems, because they don’t care if Blacks are Dems, they dismiss them because they’re Black.

          • Reality.Bites

            A grand jury isn’t deciding guilt or innocence – it’s a tool of the prosecution, not the judiciary. For a grand jury to not indict is extraordinary.

          • coram nobis

            Well, yes, they say a prosecutor could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. Still, Fox & Fatso will insinuate, and not so subtly, that a non-white jury is somehow flawed.

          • Man_in_the_mists

            Less so when the prosecutor stacks the deck to make it fail. Exhibit A: Michael Brown’s murder by cop.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        Oh no! Not a peace T shirt! Have they no decency?

    • Treant

      Uh, page six? Black folks tended to avoid Bernie because they didn’t like him.

      What you mean is that it isn’t white enough for you. Just say that, we know what you mean.

      • SoCalGal20

        Bingo!

    • gaycuckhubby

      If you can’t discredit the investegator then try the jury?
      This will play with the hardcore base but no one else

    • gaycuckhubby

      I question the editors choice of running this without more info.

  • another_steve

    Is this Joe’s last post of the day?

    If so, I say we begin posting semi-nude pictures of gorgeous Latinos.

    • safari

      Evidently Ricky Martin showed his bum for something. I suggest slightly more bum than hip this evening.

  • Gigi

    The thrill of working under Dolt 45 has waned I guess.

  • EdA

    With a side benefit being that he can collect his Congressional pension and not have to spend another minute thinking about ignoring his constituents.

    As a further side benefit, unless I am mistaken, he can donate what’s left of his campaign chest to charitable organizations, and maybe one of them might be able to hire him?

    • clay

      He’ll ‘only’ be 57, still young, if you’re not in the coal mines.

    • coram nobis

      He can also find a corner office on K Street. Big change for a former congressmen, to go to doling out donations, not dialing for dollars.

      • clay

        Yes, but, frankly, he doesn’t seem that type. He’s no Rick Santorum– more likely to retire back to PA and work on privatization behind the scenes. Otherwise, he would have worked out a joint announcement with Elaine Chao.

  • SoCalGal20

    This links to a helpful resource for tracking how a certain group of Reps are voting.

    https://twitter.com/ofa/status/948335914383740928

    https://twitter.com/ofa_ca/status/948304211560693761

    • Cuberly Deux

      Even rock stupid Rorabacher voted against it. Can you imagine being even more out of touch than that bag of hammers?

    • Ninja0980

      No surprise to see my Rep John Katko on this list.
      He’s a “moderate” who will gladly vote yes on everything the GOP puts in front of him.
      Rest assured I’ll be doing everything I can to ensure he doesn’t get a third term in Congress.

      • greenmanTN

        I’m sick to death of hearing about Republican “moderates.” Every single time they vote the party line, so if they aren’t right-wingers they might as well be. Many years ago the Dem candidate for TN Gov was a pure asshole, made homophobic statements to prove he wasn’t ‘librul.’ I didn’t vote for any gubernatorial candidate that year. Haslam hasn’t been terrible- at least he’s not a fundie.

        • Gretchen

          If your speaking of Charlie Brown, I voted Green that year. He as even worse than Haslam. I couldn’t bring myself to actually vote for Haslam, but since there was zero chance that he wouldn’t be reelected, I just voted for Issa Infante. She was at least a nice lady.

    • TuuxKabin

      Pure TrumpSpeak.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      Walters may be tied with Issa for THE most endangered R in California (some say she’s in an even more precarious position).

  • Rebecca Gardner

    What do these GOP assholes know that we don’t? Is it something nefarious or are they completely against Trump but they know they can’t say so because they’ll become persona non grata so they protest by not running again?

    I’ve never seen anything like this before. Very weird.

    • Treant

      It is possible that they realize that dirt is about to fly. A lot of it. Which will result in the dirtied Congresscritters hurling every bit of dirt they know to deflect attention.

      We may be seeing the removal of some of the dirtiest people in Congress.

    • Boreal

      I think they can see the writing on the wall.

      https://media.giphy.com/media/wyvQkOR30lmLe/giphy.gif

    • another_steve

      My guess is that they know something wicked this way comes – from Mr. Mueller and Co. Best not to be associated with the political party at the center of the coming storm.

      At least for the time being.

    • Sam_Handwich

      they can make plenty more lobbying. plus his comm chairmanship is over

    • Reality.Bites

      It’s quite common for people to step down when they sense a coming change. If they’re expecting an electoral debacle, stepping down keeps the loser label off them for the future and nicely kills the careers of up-and-coming competitors in their party.

    • OdieDenCO

      I still lean toward the rumor of the RNC funneling russian money to campaigns with the full knowledge of mcconnell and ryan.

    • Ninja0980

      I think they know they will be in the minority party for the foreseeable future and don’t want any part of it.

  • anne marie in philly

    goodbye freak; turn this seat blue!

  • boobert

    I’m hopeful a democrat replaces lobiondo.

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    OT – WTF is going on with Trump’s barrage of all-over-the-place lying tweets today?

    He sure does seem nervous about something.

    • safari

      Movies have told me that when targeted weapons are launched, deploy multiple counter agents to distract.

      • clay

        I’m not sure Trump is “deployable”. “Deplorable”, “derployable” or just “useful”, maybe.

        • safari

          Language often escapes me.

    • The_Wretched

      First day not golfing in a whilw?

  • JCF

    YAY!!!

    The Shusters have been a friggin’ dynasty in Central PA (his dad was my %$^#$!! Congressman in the 90s). I know the district is described as “Reliably Republican” (why I worked for the Greens then—there WAS no Democratic Party there!). But let’s TEST that theory, OK? Come on, Dems: run in EVERY district!!! Flip the House! dccc.org

    • safari

      EVERY DISTRICT

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Oh look, it’s another Colonel Runaway….

    https://youtu.be/HUZ50cAk_Lk

  • Sam_Handwich
    • safari

      I’m going to say white people.

      • Jerry Kott

        Entitled White People.

        • safari

          I’m a white person from a factory / farmer lineage. It is *so blind*.

          • Jerry Kott

            I grew up in a Small Town in Pennsylvania but don’t remember it as being as ignorant as many are today. One factor that may have contributed to the civility was that the Town’s major employer was a company that made precision products and parts for the US Military that required a skilled mindset. They were skilled labor and required to think on the job even thought it was considered a factory job. The men that worked there seemed civil . Brain Power can thwart ignorance.

          • clay

            I tell my students that I hope they find meaningful work, more than I hope they find lucrative work.

        • JCF

          IGNORANT White People. Education level was the SINGLE most predictive factor in the 2016 vote!

          • Jerry Kott

            Years ago , there was this game show sponsored by the State _ The Pennsylvania Games-on the education channel who had contestants that were considered to be celebrities of sorts in the state. We use to watch it. It was educational about State Facts. The host asked this question to the 3 panelist. The question was “where does Pennsylvania rank in percentage of it’s Native Born Population that seeks higher education in the United States”? The panel was all pumped and gave answers that were very high. None of the panelist got the answer right. The host told them that Pennsylvania ranks last in the United States in percentage of it’s native born population that seeks higher education.
            That says it all.

          • JCF

            When I lived in Huntingdon, a neighbor spoke disparagingly of “over the mountain”: State College (Penn State University *), less than an hour away (in good weather!). “Those people put on airs”, he sneered {gasp! Higher Education, the horror!}

            * Though of course, EVERYONE there follows Penn State sports! In the 90s, “JoePa” (that pedophile-enabling MONSTER) was a god-among-men.

          • Jerry Kott

            Tribalism is a strange thing. Before Christmas, I got an announcement about my 50 year High School Reunion. I only went to the high school 1 year, so I am not going. I can only imagine.

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            Ignorantly, he still is considered one.

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            It’s not that we didn’t want to seek it. High School Counselors got cash incentives from the Military to steer students in that direction, and all too many others were just “certain” the mills would reopen along with the mines. The few of us that realized the shithole it had become made our own way to a higher education outside the state.

          • Jerry Kott

            “One generation plants the tree, the next generation sits in the shade”
            I had a high school Counselor tell me that I should not even bother to apply to a 4 year College. My bags were packed and ready to move out of Dodge as soon as I knew there was something out there. To many studying is hard and not worth the effort. The Irony is that Pennsylvania has some of the best Colleges and Universities in the Nation.

      • Treant

        About 98%.

        This is one of the districts that used to have mean messages outside of town about allowing the sun to set upon one’s head if one were of less than lily-white color.

        The people are a real joy.

        • safari

          I grew up listening to my fathers glee at shooting people of color on top of his teenage gas station…

          …and his mother’s identity as a black woman.

          • gaycuckhubby

            Oh wow! I’m sorry Safari

          • safari

            I am apparently prohibited from deconstructing what happened. His parents are dead; I get ghostly hints from those his age.

            His younger sisters hold the answers, but — he’s alienated them permanently.

          • clay

            York County? or Altoona?

          • safari

            Saginaw Michigan for the ending. Perry County, IN for the start.

          • clay

            We have those stories in PA, as well.

          • Ninja0980

            NY as well.
            Go to the rural parts..hoo boy.

          • safari

            That I know of. Records get muddled after 4 generations.

        • Stephen Elliot Phillips

          you wonder why some of these people’s ancestors actually fought against the confederates

          • Treant

            Pro Tip: They didn’t. Many slipped across the border to join the Confederates, or were traitors to the Union.

    • Jerry Kott

      It is Pennsylvania- it is devolving.

      • safari

        The Economist has a piece on Russian railroads — termed “threads” in their native language — that I’ve been meaning to read.

    • JCF

      If you really, REALLY want to Know.All.About.This.District (culturally) … see my dissertation (drink lots of coffee though! ;-p)

      https://search.proquest.com/docview/305208478

      • clay

        Nice. I did an Historical Geography of the UCC about ten years earlier, focusing on 1890-1990.

        • JCF

          How all 4 parts came together huh! When I lived in Central PA, I learned about the “E&R” half (I really only knew about the “C&C” half before).*

          * For everyone not Clay or me:

          The UCC (United Church of Christ)

          Composed of

          1. “Evangelical” Church
          2. “Reformed” Church
          [These two came together in the early 20th c]
          3. “Congregational” Church
          4. “Christian” (this has a specific meaning, from 19thc pietistic Protestantism in the US) Church
          [These two came together in the early 20th c]

          Then the whole shebang got together in the 1950s. While the UCC is probably the most liberal (and LGBT-affirming) of all U.S. Protestant denominations, those who came from the “E&R” half are distinctly more conservative than the “C&C” half. It’s the E&Rs who are predominant in this part of PA.

          • clay

            More “R” in PA. More “E” in MO. Toss in a few Armenians, Hungarians, and Native Americans and Hawaiians along the way. Though declining, there are some truly UCC congregations formed after the merger(s).

      • safari

        I have downloaded it. I want to read it one day.

        • JCF

          Well thank ya. You can do what you want w/ it; I didn’t pay the extra money to copyright it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

          • safari

            I don’t know if I did either. I just like my work to be free.

          • JCF

            What’s yours (if you don’t mind my asking)?

          • safari

            It’s on the evolution of mutational bias.

          • JCF

            Sounds deep!

          • Gretchen

            Copyright isn’t bought or registered. Your intellectual property is yours by virtue of being…well yours. Nothing special required to make it legal. Even if I write a poem in this box, which I will spare the commentariat, it would still be legally protected under copyright laws as my own.

    • JT

      Interesting demographics. Largest ethnic group is German.

      https://www.census.gov/mycd/?st=42&cd=09

      • clay

        The largest ethnic group in the US is German.

        • JT

          Certainly not that large in percentage terms.

          From Wiki:

          The largest ancestries of American whites are: German Americans (16.5%), Irish Americans (11.9%), English Americans (9.2%), Italian Americans (5.8%), French Americans (4%), Polish Americans (3%), Scottish Americans (1.9%), Scotch-Irish Americans (1.7%), Dutch Americans (1.6%), Norwegian Americans (1.5%), and Swedish Americans (1.4%).[15][16][17] However, the English-Americans and British-Americans demography is considered a serious under-count as the stock tend to self-report and identify as simply “Americans” (6.9%), due to the length of time they have inhabited America.

          • clay

            28%? No, more like 18%.

          • clay

            1/6 of the US, larger than any other single group identity.

        • Tomcat

          This explains quite a bit.

        • JT

          Actually, upon analysis of the Wiki article, it looks as if over 15% of the population are Hispanics who identify as white. That would make Hispanics (those who identify as white and those who don’t) the largest ethnic group, wouldn’t it?

          • clay

            No. Using the US Census American Community Survey results, the largest self-reported ethnic identity is German. Many “Hispanics” don’t see themselves as “Hispanic”, but as Puerto Rican, or Mexican, or Cubano. The US Census has used “Hispanic” as a weird pseudo-racial category.

    • Ninja0980

      Sadly happening with a lot of districts, even ones that used to be moderate like NY 22.

    • TuuxKabin

      It only got/gets worse.

    • Tomcat

      Them Utah folks are not known for liking the darker skinned folks.

    • JHunter
      • KnownDonorDad

        “What do you mean, ‘Oooooo’?”

    • greenmanTN

      Certain areas are called Pennsyltucky for a reason.

      • JCF

        I never actually heard that phrase while I was there. However, *critics* (probably fur’ners, like me) would note “Pennsylvania is Philadelphia, Pittsburgh…and ALABAMA in-between!”

    • another_steve

      I generally, on principle, avoid making crass and vulgar generalizations.

      That said, I suggest we provide a 24-hour window for all non-Republicans to vacate the district, and then euthanize all those who remain.

    • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

      I escaped from there. A box of rocks has a greater intellect.

  • justmeeeee

    …becuase it’s better to quit than to get your ass beaten….

  • safari

    O/T: While we’re, slightly downthread, discussing family history —
    should I recover my great grandfather’s working arm?

    I ask since it is both macabre, abandoned, and on my mind based upon my travel trajectory.

    • safari

      My duplicate claims to want it

      • coram nobis

        To “want it” …

        • safari

          Where else will it go except to decay?

          • coram nobis

            Waste not, want not.

      • clay

        as a family favor, then?

        • safari

          Or vaudvillian curiosity

    • Sam_Handwich

      his working arm?

      • safari

        Yes. The home collapsed, but the barn is intact. His working arm is where he left it in 1994.

        • clay

          I think Sam’s asking if this is a piece of farm machinery, or a prosthesis.

          • safari

            Prosthesis. Best as I can tell mid-20th century pinchers.

          • Ninja0980

            I’d do it.
            Just for family and history’s sake.

        • Sam_Handwich

          i still don’t understand.

          • safari

            I posted a photo above.

          • Sam_Handwich

            oh my. i would leave it there in peace

          • safari

            Except I’m macabre. I wanted the recliner my grandfather died in to make it a family tradition.

          • djcoastermark

            Egads, note to self, never go over to Safari’s to “relax” in the Lazyboy for a movie and popcorn.

          • safari

            Nah. We’d keep it in the basement. Maybe. I really have no control over my father’s wishes.

          • djcoastermark

            Oh now this is really starting to sound like a few movies I’ve seen. ((((shivers))))

          • safari

            It’s not *that* creepy.

            But I am mind-fucked with the knowledge that only I can control him.

          • djcoastermark
          • safari

            We buried him with the remote in his hand.

            My “black” grandma was burried with funions.

          • clay

            Anyone buried with a fork? (symbol that dessert / good things are yet to come)

          • safari

            No. But grandma would take a metal detector with her to the homestead every visit while she was alive to try to recover the coins buried at the “old home plot”.

        • JCF

          Lemme guess: farm accident? [Farming is INCREDIBLY dangerous work. All those 19th/20th century mechanized implements were practically designed for killing&MAIMING!]

    • coram nobis

      Might as well. Family history, as well as a conversation piece, or maybe a party favor. History.

      • safari

        I agree. I’ll redirect my travels to retrieve it

    • m_lp_ql_m

      It depends on which he used to masturbate.

  • Sam_Handwich

    “11 (jurors) are African-Americans and two were wearing ‘peace T-shirts.’”

    “There was only one white male in the room, and he was a prosecutor.”

    https://pagesix.com/2018/01/02/russia-probe-grand-jury-looks-like-a-black-lives-matter-rally-says-witness/

  • Megrim Twist
    • JCF

      And today is SO much worse than what Molly ever knew…

  • Ninja0980

    O/T but why the fuck are people gushing over Mitt Romney?
    Do they forget what an asshole he was during the battle for marriage equality in MA and his 2012 run?

    • Megrim Twist

      The shitgibbon has lowered the bar so far that even Mittens looks palpable. It’s a nightmare.

      • Tread

        Even Bush 2 looks like a Mensa candidate compared to Trump.

    • clay

      Gushing over Romney? I’m not sure any are, at least not here. There’s a bit of hilarity considering the animosity between him and Trump, however.

    • Sam_Handwich

      i’m certainly not gushing. i lived through the marriage battle in MA

      but if Mittens wins the nomination it’ll put Dotard in an awkward position. and the Bannon goons will be ripping at Mitt starting in 3,2,1….

      and maybe there will be a viable 3rd party contender like McMuffin in the general . so hell, maybe we’ll end up with another Alabama story.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        If he wins, will Ronna be allowed to use her middle name again? That’s almost as good as being able to say Merry Christmas.

      • Bob Conti

        It’s because Cheetolini’s so worked up over Mittens’ political phoenix rising from the ashes and then coming after him in 2020.

    • MBear

      Because theyre stupid and chemtrails have affected their memories. MAGA! /s

    • gaycuckhubby

      I haven’t seen anyone other than Republicans gushing over him.

    • jimbo65

      And the public, spectacular rim job he gave to 45 in hopes of being considered SOS. Only to see it squashed by 45 vindictiveness.

    • boobert

      I think a democrat has a chance to take that seat. Remember , a democrat won in Alabama. If not , I’d like to see Evan McMullin run.

      • clay

        I don’t thing a Dem has a chance. But it’s not likely to be a Trumpista.

        • boobert

          They said that about Alabama. I think there’s a possible anti trump/republican movement happening.

        • Cuberly Deux

          Well it is Utah, pretty high chances of finding a MoMo kiddie fucker there for Bannon to champion.

    • Cuberly Deux

      I’m not perceiving it as gushing, from what I’ve been reading the reporting is along the lines of a horse race or a heavy weight bout or something. Basically Donnie vs Mittens, a WWE styled fight for the soul of the GOP.

      Already articles are popping up about how Utah will be the next Alabama-style challenge for Bannon.

      To be honest the whole thing disgusts me. Obsessive reportage about the latest horse race while they ignore the GOP decimating the judiciary.

      Sorry, in a bit of a mood. 🙁

    • mark99k

      It’s not gushing. It’s watching, with a few, er, moist spots, based mostly on the hope that Romney’s mere arrival will send Trump widdle fingers into continuous spasms. Plus, objectively, I think it’ll be quite interesting to see how (or if) Mittens responds when Trump starts attacking him.

  • Lazycrockett
  • Lazycrockett

    Joy is hosting All In Ya’ll.

    • another_steve

      Love me my Joy. The very best MSNBC has.

      Her, and Lawrence.

      • JCF

        And Rachel! <3

        • another_steve

          I love our out and proud sister, but to be honest, her on-air shtick no longer works for me.

          I find the constant repetition of her “key points” and “key words” a bit demeaning. My sense (only mine – I realize others disagree) is that she’s lost her on-air “bite.”

          Others love the 5-minute analogies to Dwight D. Eisenhower’s Secretary of State’s scandals and how the saga of Harry Truman’s dog “Schnauzer” parallels the Trump Administration experience… but what can I say.

          I’m done with that stuff.

          • JCF

            And, as I have indicated before, am done w/ your “done” about her. I didn’t mean to bait you w/ the above comment, a_s, but I respect Rachel too much to see her left out of any MSNBC accolades. That’s just the way it is (it’s not personal).

            I seriously believe her reporting may (along w/ Joy & Lawrence) *MAY* save this Republic from itself.

  • another_steve

    Ohmigod I was in the midst of a mystical ecstasy whereupon all the saints of all the world’s religions appeared to me and declared me the Anointed One, and then this appeared:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ca0a91176ae11f3267291aff28f60d6971b20821bd61f44def004be1edc8a2b6.jpg

    • clay

      Looks like he’s the one who’s anointed, at least his hair.

      • another_steve

        The lips. The lips.

        If you are a gay or bi male, or a straight or bi female, and those lips don’t drive you insane, please surrender your membership card.

        • gaycuckhubby

          I mean, i could probably think of a couple things to do with them

          • another_steve

            Well that’s because you’re a heathen savage.

            (Those lips are mine, be-itch! Lay off.)

  • JCF

    JOY!!!

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    OT – Well I guess we know now who the 2020 nominee is going to be, or at least who the early donors think it will be.

    https://www.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/948224883783340033

    • Ninja0980

      Nope.
      Too close to the Bernie folks for me.

    • I’m actually Ok with her.

      • JCF

        Not my first choice, but I’d certainly be OK w/ her.

        • Who is your first choice?
          (I honestly don’t have a first choice.)

          • gaycuckhubby

            I know she’s not well liked here… but Gillibrand has my vote

          • I could see that.

          • JCF

            I think she’d be a VERY strong candidate.

          • That_Looks_Delicious

            Where is here? I live in CA and I think she’d do well here. The trick for the Dems, though, will be getting a candidate that plays well in the Rust Belt, and Warren might have the blue-collar cred to do that. Any D nominee would probably win CA easily.

          • gaycuckhubby

            I meant on JMG. Lots of bad blood because of Franken and her bringing up Bill Clinton

          • JCF

            But she did NOT “bring up Bill Clinton”. She was asked, she paused, then answered.

          • gaycuckhubby

            I agree!

          • JCF

            I really can’t tell yet. 2020 (or even 2019) is still a LONG way off. [God, if we’ll even still have a Republic then? Focus on the Midterms!]

    • SoCalGal20

      I’m good with her as long as she doesn’t have Bernie as her running mate. I would prefer somebody younger but she won’t take shit from Wall Street and she knows her stuff.

    • SoCalGal20

      And OMG if she runs and Trump is still around he’ll be apoplectic. LMAO

      • gaycuckhubby

        If u thought 2016 was a rough election cycle just wait until trump v warren

    • boobert

      She’ll be 70 in 2020. That’s too old .

  • SoCalGal20

    This person put together a great list of Dem candidates running to flip State Congressional seats in upcoming special elections happening January-March. There are two next week!

    https://twitter.com/henricoblue/status/948222579462037504

    https://twitter.com/henricoblue/status/948308132924657664

    And a correction to one of the twitter handles.

    https://twitter.com/henricoblue/status/948348790381121536

  • gaycuckhubby

    Look at POTUS last two tweets…
    I predict something horrible happening during the Olympics 🙁

  • Treant

    OT: I went to the ENT today and the Latera failed. As we knew. Basically, it feels like there’s always something stuck or touching in my right-hand nostil, up high where the nasal cuff is (and has collapsed).

    So he’s recommending septoplasty, turbinate reduction (if necessary), and nasal spreader grafts. While it’ll very slightly change the way my nose looks–to be a bit wider up top to accommodate the expanded spreader graft–it’s minor.

    And fortunately, I won’t need a cut (or scar) on the front of the nose; the first quarter inch of my nasal septum is just fine. The rest of it is a tortured S-curve.

    I’m chewing on this, but has anybody else ever had cuff collapse?

    • JCF

      {{{Treant}}}

  • i can’t even. is this a sitcom? “Roy Moore’s Jewish Lawyer…” really, i’m not that good a TV great a writer, but i want to be. Mel Brooks would be envious.

  • Clive Johnson
  • JCF

    Blurgh, McMullin sounding very pro-Romney. NEXT!

    • SoCalGal20

      I lived in MA when Romney was still governor. He was fine. I wouldn’t personally vote for him but he didn’t drive the state into the ground and MA’s health insurance-for-all happened while he was governor.

      He’ll drive Trump crazy if he works with Dems lol.

      • gaycuckhubby

        Ohhhh… u gonna get flamed!!!

        • JCF

          Do you seriously think he would hold Drumpf accountable, cucky? I think he might bitch and moan…and then vote EXACTLY the way every other Rethug does. [See re other “Conscience of a Conservative”-types re the furkin’ Tax bill!]

          • gaycuckhubby

            No. I think he would basically be another Susan Collins

          • andrew

            Remember how Obama bent over backwards to get her input and vote for the ACA, all to no avail.

          • SoCalGal20

            I don’t know what he’ll do but based on how he was as governor of MA and his previously bad relationship with Trump I think he might be…ok. Or at least better than Orrin Hatch.

          • JCF

            I’m not doubting “better than Orrin Hatch”. But (see SLC Tribune “Man of the Year” editorial!) that’s an exceptionally low bar.

          • SoCalGal20

            Well, we have to work with what we’ve got lol.

      • Sam_Handwich

        I was there too, and still am. He had no choice but to sign HC reform. A veto would have been easily overridden.

        He also attempted legal bullshit with the marriage ruling, trying to keep out-of-state couples out. The good part was that his last year was spent mostly out of state while he was trying to run for president the first time….which is when we defeated the ballot question he endorsed, which was aiming to overturn Goodridge v Dept of Health

        • SoCalGal20

          Haha yes ok.

          I do think if the blue wave happens he’d at least be willing to work with Dems on some things which is more than you can say for a lotof the Rs right now. He’s probably the best R we can hope for out of UT, at least.

          • Sam_Handwich

            McMuffin is the best R we could expect

      • Friday

        He lied about not obstructing gay marriage, then turned right around and did it, digging up an openly racist law from before WWI that was still on the books cause anti-miscegenation laws were voided by the Supreme Court. Used it to make MA gay marriages not available to out-of-state residents, thus not falling under ‘full faith and credit’. For a decade.

    • gaycuckhubby

      My bf is Romney fan
      Shrugs. He’s still cute and smart and decent 😉

      • JCF

        I’m sure your bf is, cucky. 😉

        • gaycuckhubby

          To b clear im talking about mcmuffin 🙂
          My husband is a dyed in the wool, liberal democrat.
          He doesn’t have the the annoying, moderate, contariate libertarian streak that I do.

  • safari

    @JCF: Why your topic?

    • safari

      It’s a two century analysis. That’s not just for the heck of it.

    • JCF

      Is that at me, or do mean

      http://cdn.edgecast.steamstatic.com/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/5e/5ed351b82f168c184771768e64e9c56240817931_full.jpg

      If at me: I’m busy cooking, then gotta run (EA potluck). I’ll respond later, promise!

    • JCF

      To be perfectly honest, I don’t remember (w/o looking it up) why my study period began in 1789 (key settlement date, I’m thinking. Establishment of a county). 1999 is easy: that’s the year I left (the area)! As you can see, it took another 5 years to finish the damn thing (like so many doctoral candidates, had my marriage break up in the interim, Le Sigh).

      The ecumenical movement was really a 20th century phenomenon (only pale remnants have survived in the 21st—but then again Christianity is fading away in the U.S. {pauses for JMG cheers} and sadly (!) Mainline Christianity faster than most. It’s a branding thing: people like extreme versions of any given product).

      But to explore a 20th century phenom, I really had to begin w/ the various origins much earlier. Lots of religious groups which first arrived in the late 18th/early 19th century, got together to put up their first real (dedicated) buildings, for example.

      • JCF

        But maybe you mean, “why ecumenism”?

        Well, religion just fascinates me (Mysterium tremendum et fascinans, per Rudolph Otto’s “The Idea of the Holy”). I come at it as a participant (not in a “look at this alien object” kind of way) in one way, but I think I’m also capable of being fair (though not “objective”, because there’s no such thing ;-/ ).

        I first took a class in Comparative Religion in my (public!) high school in the late 1970s. After majoring in International Relations as an undergrad (and a period of odd jobing/wage slaving), I went back to school to look at the sources of religious conflict…but also begging the question of religious cooperation. Ergo, my MA at Union Seminary (NYC).

        But like an idiot I wasn’t done studying, so I went onto doctoral studies (Teachers College, in conjunction w Union). My original study area (I quickly decided on historical study, cuz that’s what I’m good at) was going to be Schenectady NY! [That’s where the fiance was working at the time.] But when he got a new job in PA, that’s where I went (we married the summer before), too. And that’s how the dissertation came to be. Here endeth the tale…

  • Karl Dubhe 2

    Wholy biscuits, I looked at trump’s twitter feed.

    He’s raving about everything, must have gotten into Nixon’s secret whiskey stash.

    • gaycuckhubby

      More unhinged than normal

  • gaycuckhubby

    @another_steve am I doing this right?

    I searched for “frozen and bored tonight”
    And this showed up.

    https://twitter.com/guskenworthy/status/948016153669988352

    • another_steve

      Perfect.

      Me, I’m bi.

      Men and (legal age, of course) boys.

  • gaycuckhubby

    For those not aware… Trump is starting a nuclear war on twitter. Right now. Literally

    • Karl Dubhe 2

      Yes, charming. I’m breaking out the rum again. Thank god I picked up some Rootbeer for mix. (yes, I know. You hate me for that.)

      • gaycuckhubby

        I want to try it now tbh

        • Karl Dubhe 2

          I like it better than coke. 🙂 It’s milder.

          Maybe I should try mountain dew with it one day. (fuck to the NO, squared.)

          • That_Looks_Delicious

            Have you tried Vernor’s?

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            never heard of it. I’m in Canada.

    • Rebecca Gardner
      • coram nobis

        His button is bigger. Wowee.

  • Lazycrockett
    • another_steve

      Boy is brilliant there, as usual.

      Is it my imagination, or has he changed his physical look?

      • Lazycrockett

        Looks like he got a hair cut, shaved and took off the country folk clothes.

        • That_Looks_Delicious

          He’s also looking very pale there. But I hear it’s been a tad chilly in other parts of the country lately.

        • fuow

          He also put on clothes, drat.

    • Zeldacat

      Huh – I knew Walmart offers to help their employees sign up for assistance (during my orientation some years ago prior to a brief stint working there, I heard it with my own ears, along with the anti-union bullshit about how they will take care of us!) but I didn’t know McDonald’s does as well.

  • Halou
  • boobert

    There must be something coming. The moron is on a twitter rant and it isn’t 3 am !

    • Halou

      He wants to make sure everyone watches Sean Hannity get orange lips.

  • safari
    • Treant

      Dumpster is tweaking Kim with nuclear war threats and talk of having a bigger, better missile.

      • Halou

        Yeah, Trump is not compensating for anything by saying his is totally so much bigger than Kim’s “button”.

  • bruno_mirakuru_

    He can also find a corner office on K Street. Big change for a former congressmen, to go to doling out donations, not dialing for dollars.

  • safari
  • Halou

    After tweeting a threat to King Kim it took Trump a whole 16 minutes to write up a whinge piece about the media, apparently he is dead set on doing his stupid “award” ceremony for “fake news”.

    After this, it took him 12 minutes to write an endorsement of professional air-headed brown-nosing sycophant Sean Hannity.

    • Treant

      Other than rage-Tweet, has he done jack shit today?

      • Halou

        What? Not even a full day robbing the Secret Service at his own golf resort? Something must be afoot.

      • gaycuckhubby

        Or this year

      • Lazycrockett

        Had lunch with Pence, same thing tomorrow other than that nadda.

    • olandp

      Hell, if he put on a Fake News Awards show, CNN would cover it.

  • SoCalGal20

    In referrnce to Trump’s nuclear tweet. LMAO (the ladies will get this one – and maybe some of the guys)

    https://twitter.com/kashanacauley/status/948365689848520707

    • gaycuckhubby

      LOL

    • Natty Enquirer

      Satan’s doorbell for real.

    • Silver Badger

      With all due respect, most of the gentlemen here don’t really want to look. We have different searches to make.

      • JCF

        It’s about getting the joke, not looking for the organ!

  • safari

    Might have just called Sean a cuckhold watching the nation being fucked by Donald who needs to blow his wad on Sean to feel good about himself.

  • coram nobis

    GOP pranksters messing with “Welcome to California” signs, apparently regarding SB54 going into effect 1/1. Caltrans not happy about the signs.

    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Fake-signs-California-highways-sanctuary-immigrant-12467304.php

    • SoCalGal20

      That’s ok, the Blue Tsunami will flip several CA GOP seats and these douchebags will have even less power in minority-majority California. 🙂

      • coram nobis

        If Glorious Leader doesn’t get us into a war. California needs to start talking about independence.

  • fuow

    Wow, just imagine the possibilities! Were we to get out and vote, we could actually take back the House and Senate this year.

    • another_steve

      The House is within our grasp. The Senate, far more difficult.

      That might change however, if Boyfriend Mueller comes through.

      • KnownDonorDad

        Unfortunately, it’s the Senate that approves all these vile judicial and administrative appointments. And Pence will rubber-stamp anything.

        • another_steve

          True.

          The theofascists of America will rejoice if and when Trump resigns or is removed from office.

          Pence is one of their own.

      • gaycuckhubby

        Tell boyfriend that all this foreplay was nice but now it’s time for some real action

  • safari
    • safari

      Shit’s going down.

      • Treant

        Y’think Mueller got off his ass and that’s why all the breathless reporting from the Grand Jury today by those KKK crackpots?

        • safari

          Until an official announcement it’s all distraction.

    • jimbo65

      And Comey’s breathlessly, running to the Mics, “but her enails” hit job

  • gaycuckhubby
    • Silver Badger

      That does not compute.

      • gaycuckhubby

        Well, if there’s going to be a foursome between Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Chris Pratt and Ryan Reynolds then I want to watch!

        • Silver Badger

          It all comes clear now. Thank you for enlightenment.

        • Canadian Observer

          …in braille *wink*

    • TampaDink

      For me….the Chris of choice will always be Meloni.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Chris Evans doesn’t do a thing for me. Chris Pratt and Chris Pine are both smart and sexy. Pine has that shy thing going on that can be attractive. Pratt is much more the extravert and maybe a little full of himself. Hemsworth is pretty to look at but seems remote. (You should know that a smile will turn me on much quicker than a smoldering look.)

  • TampaDink

    I hope that this hasn’t been posted in this thread yet….but I sincerely hope that the midterms will be closing time for the GOP/tea people.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZbFcUGQue4

  • gaycuckhubby
    • Halou

      Hillary Clinton’s was still bigger even though she doesn’t have one.

    • another_steve

      Donald Trump has a very small penis, but his son-in-law Jared has a huge one.

      Don’t ask me how I know.

      • gaycuckhubby

        I bet it’s small, but adorable!

        • another_steve

          I am a connoisseur of Ashkenazi Jew dick. I’m an Ashkenazi Jew myself. It’s a cultural understanding. Plus I came of age in a largely Jewish area of New York City, where many Jewish boys found me enticing.

          Jared, I sense, has a nice one.

          When he’s ball-gagged in my basement and I am his agent – $30 general admission for one 15-minute session (“Jared Plus” membership of $200 that allows unlimited entry for an entire year) – you’ll see.

      • KnownDonorDad

        “Has” or “is”?

  • Treant

    Does closing the (white) blinds reflect enough IR to avoid bursting into flame in case of nuclear attack?

    Asking for a friend.

    • TampaDink

      Doubtful….but it is worth a shot.

    • safari

      Yes.

      • safari

        It’s the actual blast waves you should be concerned about.

    • -M-

      At some distance, yes.

  • blackstar
    • gaycuckhubby

      But will it be a bigger bomb than Andersons NYE special?

      Also, we’re fucked

      • TampaDink

        Yes….he will be nuclear. Apparently Andy’s NYE show was a much smaller bomb.

  • TampaDink

    Rachel, my secret lesbian girlfriend is back!

  • safari
  • Jerry Kott

    A long read, some update of life in rural Pennsylvania. Yes, we post our land.

    We were cleaning out our rain spouting on Dec, 4, 2017. We did the front of the house and we were working on the back. Scott was up on the ladder and I stand at the bottom to keep it steady. All of a sudden were were startled by a single high caliber gun shot that came from our land. Within seconds, were went into the house and put on our flash orange jackets and hats. Our property borders 9 properties thus 9 neighbors.

    We followed the direction of the gun shot. I started to record with the Pivot-head as we went towards the lake. We had no idea whose finger was on the trigger. Then we noticed a man , trespassing on our land, standing over a dead Doe. I was outraged by the audacity (all caught on video). We were very centered in our response and the man was looking for wiggle room. He was trespassing, he knew it , and shot and killed a deer on our land. We found him in his panic that he was caught., He said he was a Jehovah Witness and would not lie. He appeared to try to fain a heart attack of sorts, told us he had a heart murmur and was panicking. It turns out he is a very well know Roofing contractor who was lying his ass off. He then tried to convince us that he shot the deer from a deer stand near our property but the seat was facing our land. As he was showing us, we discovered a very large tree stand camouflaged to blend into a Tulip tree that was ON our land. We believe he was using that stand. But we both suspected he was standing on the ground when he shot the deer, there was NO BLOOD trail at all. All this is on video-10 minutes of it. I recalled asking him if he was going to eat the deer and he paused and we suspected that this was a thrill kill which was disturbing to us. We left being totally baffled and angry. He seemed unstable to us having been caught red handed and I told him I didn’t believe him. He was trying to convince us he was telling the truth. We never, ever expected that a neighbor or anyone would be so brazen to construct a deer stand on our land and kill a creator’s creation. We found this very, very disturbing and were wary of him and left and went home. This man was not a neighbor or lived in the neighborhood. A neighbor had given him permission to hunt on there land but we never gave him permission to hunt on ours. He trespassed on ours. I suspect he has the mindset that ” it is easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission”

    This was a man who is wealthy and we believe had all the gadgets and GPS that gave his location. He told us he was hunting in that spot ( our land) for years which was clarified by the ladder in the stand on our land having grown into the bark of the Tulip tree. We went home, shocked by the crime. He said he saw no No Trespassing signs. We put them up , they get ripped down. He had been watching us. He told us the time my partner was walking our dog on several different days.

    There is more documented in the video. We are reporting this to the Pennsylvania Game Commission this week. We gave it time for a reason. We will see how quickly our Homosexuality becomes part of the dialogue. We expect some retaliation for reporting this.

    • Zeldacat

      What an asshole! Good luck!

      • Jerry Kott

        Thanks-it should get interesting.

    • Natty Enquirer

      It seems you know who he is. Will you be getting a court order to keep him away from your land? Suing for damages?

      • Jerry Kott

        He gave us a Business card. From what we have read, the Game Commission takes this matter very seriously- we will see. He didn’t want to engage him because he gave us the impression that he wasn’t very stable and he was holding a high powered rifle on our land and was trapped. My partner stayed back and I did all the talking as I approached him. One step at a time.
        For decades we have been asked by contractors and neighbors to Deer hunt on our land and we always say NO.

    • Hank

      “He said he was a Jehovah Witness and would not lie.” However, he has no hesitation to kill a creature of G-d’s, without hesitation.
      How Xtian of him!!!

      • Jerry Kott

        He knew we thought he was full of shit when he told us that. HIs litany of looking for wiggle room was disturbing. From my understanding, Jehovah Witness’s aren’t considered Christians.

        • Steve Teeter

          By whom? You can get differing opinions. Your trespasser’s jumping from lie to lie to lie is revealing. Typical behavior of a lawbreaker and/or sociopath who knows he’s been caught and is trying desperately to escape, and if the last lie doesn’t work he tries the next. I don’t know if I’d include that in the letter to the Game Commission, but if they interview you, I’d use it.

          • Jerry Kott

            They want facts and we have documentation. If they want the video we will share it with them. Our reporting it is to make it clear to the trespasser that he willfully crossed the line. If we don’t, he may see that as condoning his actions.

      • JCF

        JW’s aren’t really Christian (in the generally understood, Trinitarian sense). They’re another cult, like the Mormons. Dogma invented out of whole cloth in the 19th century.

    • djcoastermark

      Please keep us informed as to what happens. Didn’t you have trouble with another homophobe neighbor ? For someone to do this on your property is just not right.

      • Jerry Kott

        Will do ! we have a pact with the deer and don’t allow anyone to hunt them on our land. What this hunter did was wrong but also illegal. From what we have read the Game Commission takes these matter’s seriously-we will find out . He committed a litany of crimes and he knows it. My letter writing may be paying off with the other neighbors. Until I can clarify with facts, some movement has taken place. The Police Chief of 40 years on the force, resigned under what may appear to be a cloud. The asswipes have been laying low and we may know why.
        They are learning that “the enemy of your enemy is NOT always your friend.”

  • ohbear1957
    • Treant

      However, in the event of the Poseidon capsizing, Melanoma’s hooters may be used as a flotation device.

      • ohbear1957

        I’ll take my chances with the bunny.
        Plus, silicone tastes funny.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Someone is so ripping off the Trumps. Even a regular little black cocktail dress would have been so much more flattering.

      • ohbear1957

        Even in a black dress the bunny would win.

      • Steve Teeter

        Then this is a case where you can’t be robbed without your consent. Melania must have approved of that dress, after all, before wearing it. Poor thing.

        • Bert_Bauer

          Textbook example of “money can’t buy taste or class.”

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      her silicone is drooping

      • ohbear1957

        Maybe they’re chocolate and melting.
        “The most beautiful chocolate tits that you’ve ever seen.”

  • Lazycrockett

    Fusion is taking the fuck to Congress and Grassley.

  • jimbo65

    Damn. Listening to Rachel, these treasonous, complicit senate fucks that didn’t want to release the Fusion GPS testimony. Just unbelievable.

  • jimbo65

    So ironic if a drunken “coffee boy” will ultimately be 45’s undoing.

    • Hank

      He is “THE Covfefe boy”

  • Lazycrockett

    New Thread.