Rep. Adam Schiff Tamps Down Impeachment Talk

The San Francisco Chronicle reports:

Democrats feverishly looking to send President Trump to an early retirement should step back and take a deep breath, a leading California Democrat said Thursday.

With the GOP controlling both houses of Congress, nothing is going to happen until Republican members are presented with examples “of very specific conduct that says their vote (to impeach Trump) is justified,” Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Burbank, told The Chronicle’s editorial board. “My Republican colleagues are nowhere near ready to make that conclusion.”

But unlikely doesn’t mean impossible, and Schiff’s work as the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, which is looking at the possibility of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and possible links to the Trump campaign, could play a major role in any future decision.

“Certainly, possible collusion with Russia” and proof that it happened would be something that could change the way Republicans look at the president, Schiff said.

  • Do Something Nice

    Well, of course. Nobody should be acting to impeach until there are specific, impeachable offenses.

    • Todd20036

      Like colluding with Russia, for instance.

      • Do Something Nice

        I’m all for impeaching him, but there needs to be credible proof. I hope that Schiff and the committee uncovers it.

        • Todd20036

          Mueller is working on it.
          But even if he uncovers impeachable offenses, the GOP is as complicit in this as Trump himself. Think they’ll impeach him?

          • Do Something Nice

            Yes. They are bailing one by one, and Trump’s angry tweets that are blasting their colleagues is alienating most of them.

      • pj

        hes still colluding

  • Dagoril

    Sadly he’s right. The American Nazi Party is unlikely to vote out its Poster Nazi. For now at least.

  • Ninja0980

    He’s right, as much as I hate to admit it.
    Sad thing is, even if they are shown evidence I don’t see Republicans doing a damn thing about it.

    • Todd20036

      Evidence? Look at what “evidence” was needed to impeach Bill Clinton for a blow job?
      The GOP threatened to impeach Hillary Clinton as soon as she won, had she done so.

      • bzrd

        impeached for lying

    • Gerry Fisher

      “Being right” is not an excuse to abdicate leadership in the resistance. Perhaps the aggression should be placed behind calls to resign.

      • David L. Caster

        The only way Trump would resign would be to keep his as out of a jail cell or save what’s left of his fortune.

  • TampaZeke

    I think, if truth be told, there’s a lot of selfish reasons why many Democrats don’t want to impeach Trump. They want him in as long as possible, hopefully through 2020, so that they can run against him in the mid-terms to take the House and Senate and in 2020 to recapture the presidency.

    • Gerry Fisher

      Lots of fools think that they can manipulate and harness this brush fire for their own objectives. Meanwhile, we burn.

    • Do Something Nice

      Remember, the DNC wanted Trump to win the primary. I think Democrats need to focus upon their platform and message and be careful for what they wish. .

      And seriously, allowing this bastard to ruin the country for 3+ more years for political advantage is despicable.

    • Todd20036

      Yeah, that worked so well in 2016.

    • Dramphooey

      That’s not what he’s saying here. The Democrats are the minority. The House is Tea Party Central. We currently cannot impeach Trump, period.

      • danolgb

        Yep. Half of the Republican base still support Trump. Republicans are not going to let impeachment see the light of day as long as they run the House and Senate, otherwise they’re never going to win an election again.

        • David L. Caster

          Given recent and not so recent history, everyone needs to stop predicting that any particular event will prevent Republicans from winning elections.

          • danolgb

            Again.. Republicans are never going to let impeachment see the light of day. This is not difficult to understand.

          • David L. Caster

            No argument here.

  • Leo

    OT. Not from recently but relevant. Still laughing hours later.

    • GayOldLady


      • Gustav2

        We could have Kazoo Bands playing.

        • GayOldLady

          That would be even funnier. Did you notice those pinheads had no idea they were being mocked? As the tuba player said at the end, “the family tree has no branches”.

          • Rebeccabhoward

            I quit working at shoprite and now I make $65-85 per/h. How? I’m working online! My work didn’t exactly make me happy so I decided to take a chance on something new… after 4 years it was so hard to quit my day job but now I couldn’t be happier. Here’s what I do… ➤go➤ here

    • Todd20036

      Reminds me of the Family Guy episode with Stewie doing the same thing to every fat guy he sees

    • Rex

      Dumb, da, dumb, da, dumb, da, dumb…

    • Joe in PA

      And I love the comment (at :27): And this is what stupid looks like.

      Thanks for posting!

    • David

      This is delightful.

    • pj

      id like to see the tuba added to chump coming down the stairs of air force one.

    • Fifth-and-a-Half Element
    • jerry

      That was the theme for Laurel and Hardy: (Cuckoo Theme):

    • William

      I’ve always wanted a Sousaphone.

      • pj

        me too

    • Mike__in_Houston

      The original score to the 1915 silent film The Birth of a Nation, which glorifies the KKK and which I have read the KKK used to use as a recruiting tool, uses the “Ride of the Valkyries” to accompany the “KKK to the rescue” parts of the film. I wonder if the tuba player’s use of the theme was intentional or just serendipitous.

      The film, which is of course very different from the 2016 film with the same title, will probably always be available on home video because it is considered one of the great American classics, despite the attitude it takes toward the Klan. At least one DVD release of it appears to use the original score. Maybe the producers of that edition could swap out the “Ride” for the “cartoon” music the tuba player uses in those extensive parts of the film that show the “KKK to the rescue.” That would be a hoot.

      • Mb

        I think he was referencing “Kill the Wabbit” from Bugs Bunny as sung by Elmer Fudd

    • Professor Barnhardt

      The classic version. I can’t find a video of a live performance on Youtube that has not been altered.

  • crewman

    Strategy question: Would it be smart or unwise to run the mid-term national Congressional elections as a referendum on Trump, with the explicit stated goal of “help us impeach Trump”, or would that backfire?

    • Duh-David

      Maybe not so explicit, but an “are you happy with who’s in Washington?” campaign seems inevitable.

      • Snarkaholic

        Or something along the lines of: “Are you tired of going to bed every night terrified that your precious children may be nuked into oblivion at any moment? Well, I vow to NEVER encourage our enemies to do such a thing!”

        • Beagle

          As one of several themes, okay. But the main theme should be an American Agenda — half a dozen or so sound-bite-friendly policy ideas, backed by half a dozen or so bills ready to introduce on Day 1 and to be the subject of hearings during Week 1.

  • liondon#iamnotatraitor

    I want Trump to take the whole party down with him.

    • popebuck1

      The way they’re all sticking with him, they’re making that outcome more and more likely. Good.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      They’re along for the ride, that’s for sure.

    • Texndoc

      Do you think that will happen? I don’t think he’s any more reviled now than before he won and with this monuments destruction thing and antifa I know people who voted for him who I was talking with and they think they’ll increase their majorities in 2018. Lots of people wearing rose colored glasses I’m afraid. I thought he’d lose in 2016 by electoral numbers not seen since Mondale.

  • GayOldLady

    Impeachment takes too long. 25thThe45th and get the shithead out of the White House.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Reality.Bites

      How about the President’s Council on Reality TV and Fame Whoring?

      • Dagoril

        You mean his cabinet?

        • Joe in PA

          Bah dum bump!

      • JCF

        You mean his family?

    • Joe in PA

      Pffft, the Trumpanzees will applaud this. 🙁

      • djcoastermark

        Yeah, who needs those artsy fartsy types wastin our taxes money, theys prolly all f*gs anyway. /S

        • Gustav2

          Because we have out STATUES!

          • Joe in PA

            Beautiful statues!

        • Snarkaholic

          Their idea of a fine arts book is a copy of TITZ magazine.

          • Joe in PA

            That’s a thing? [shudders]

            (sorry to those that like that sort of thing) 😉

          • Snarkaholic

            I sort of made it up…I don’t know if that one actually exists. There are, however, many magazines of that variety.

          • Joe in PA

            Seems about right. I remember finding a porn magazine of my YOUNGER brother called (and I’m not making this up) Dears and Rears.


          • Rex

            What was the publication that Al Bundy would talk about on “Married, With Children?”

          • Snarkaholic

            I’m not sure; I didn’t really watch that show.

          • Hunter M


    • Dramphooey
    • BobSF_94117

      Trump has/had a Commission on Arts and the Humanities?

      What was their job, to catalog everything for a fire sale?

      • -M-

        It’s more like there was one and not all of the members had resigned until now.

    • Dan

      No one on the evangelical council has quit yet. Go figure.

    • -M-

      “We cannot sit idly by, the way that your West Wing advisors have, without speaking out against your words and actions.”

  • Butch

    My fear is that the answer to the question of “when will the GOP turn against Trump” is “never.”

    • Snarkaholic

      I still don’t understand this…Pence(il dick,) as prez, could and would get them everything they want.

      • Joe in PA

        Exactly. But then they would somehow be admitting they elected someone impeachable. Or something. 🙁

        • GayOldLady

          They would have to admit they voted for a total shipwreck idiot. Many of them will never do that.

          • David L. Caster

            Birds of a Trump feather.

        • Snarkaholic

          They can just go on TV, say that he lied, shrug it off, post footage of some third-rate “celebrity” with her boobs falling out of her shirt, and the entire thing will be forgotten instantly.

      • yes b’y
        • tomfromthenews

          LOL. I remember that scene in the movie.

    • Joe in PA

      Ugh. I was just looking at a Facebook post by my Republican rep (Costello), he was condemning the Nazi stuff from Trump (although not by name of course). You wouldn’t believe the hate comments that came from that. FFS, you can’t even condemn Nazis anymore.

    • Todd20036

      WWIII is rock bottom.
      Hope we never reach that point.

      • Joe in PA

        And if we do…it won’t matter. 🙁

    • The_Wretched

      There is no bottom.

      • David Walker

        A modified China Syndrome…it just keeps getting deeper and deeper until they pop out in Jina.

  • Rex

    I have a feeling Mueller’s investigation will unearth some shady information regarding Trump’s personal business. The last thing he wants is a microscope on his business. Kinda think it’s more likely he’ll resign before being impeached. He’ll play the victim, cry about Dem’s witch hunt, GOP turning on him, Say he was the Greatest President ever, but no one would let him be the complete leader, so he’s leaving, some fake story about blood, etc., etc.
    But, guess we’ll all have to wait and see how it turns out.

    • teeveedub

      All of that aligns completely with his personality and his behavior. But it’s not very satisfying to those of us who want (and deserve) to see him perp-walked out of the White House. No amount of humiliation is too much for this hate-filled traitor.

      • David L. Caster

        With one important exception: Trump won’t resign of his own accord unless it will save him from a worse fate.

    • bambinoitaliano

      Why would he resign with no condition to be immune to prosecution? He would need the pardon powers to rescue his families and some of his allies in exchange for future favors. Unless Mueller goes straight to the head of the snake and chop him off before he bring in the rest.

  • yes b’y
    • JCF

      Um, that’s not how prosecution works. The investigation only INTENSIFIES.

      • Bad Tom

        Investigation -> Prosecution -> Grand Jury -> Indictment -> Arrest Warrant -> Arrest Warrant Served -> Fucker is in JAIL!

  • Leo
  • DesertSun59

    Stop it. Just stop it with this talk of impeachment. It’s never going to happen. We have witnessed that 45 has unpolled support that will NEVER go away. No matter what 45 does the political ramifications fall off him like Teflon. The 25th can’t be invoked either. Look at the criteria for its invocation. It will never happen.

    It will take Mueller finding clear and obvious crimes before the House can ever react. And even when Mueller finds those crimes – and he will – the House will have to be FORCED to start impeachment hearings. They will drag them out forever. The reason is clear, too. 45’s base is THEIR base. They dare not diss their base. The GOP is not about to put country over party. EVER.

  • Bryan

    So then why is Rick Wison being coy…

  • Jean-Marc in Canada


    • Beagle

      I think Schiff is saying that it won’t happen until Rs are on board — which is correct, if only because a 2/3 vote of the Senate is necessary to convict.
      It’s mathematically impossible to get to 2/3 of the Senate without Rs until 2020 at least. The Rs would have to lose 19 out of the 52 seats they currently hold to put them under 1/3 of the Senate. 8 R seats are in play in 2018, and 22 more in 2020. If the Rs lose 19 of those 30 in those 2 cycles, I don’t see them holding on to the presidency in 2020.
      I don’t think Schiff is saying anything there re whether Dump deserves impeachment. Which may be the smarter course right now for reps in districts that aren’t overwhelmingly blue.

  • Tiger Quinn

    We could have him out in DAYS if we took to the streets. Republican Congress has shown for 9 months that they are afraid of constituents.

  • YakHerder

    GOOD. Every minute we spend talking about some impeachment fantasy is a minute wasted from countering the Republican party’s destructive agenda.

  • Ernest Endevor

    Good for him. Let’s not forget that the Republicans will do nothing so long as they think they can hope to dismantle Social Security and Medicare, repeal the ACA, make more colossal tax cuts for the rich, undo all of Obama’s regulations, open federal land to mining/oil concerns, etc. They’ve got a long way to go before they’ll give up the presidency and anger The Base.

  • Ross

    I am 100% confident that the GOP Congress will never take down Donnie.

    No matter what is revealed, and no matter how bad it gets.

    But Mueller?

    I am livin’ for HE can do.

    • Ken M

      I disagree. As things have become darker for Trump, and as Congress has had some time off to sit back and watch, I think they may start looking at the fact that Pence may not be so bad afterall. If they can offer the voters they’re concerned about a viable option that doesn’t involve Hillary, they may get rid of him. It’s not like he has done anything to make their lives easy.

      • Ross

        Does the GOP Congress have an ounce of decency & integrity?


        • Ken M

          You think decency and integrity is why they want Trump? They will show more (not that it’s there in quantity) of both by canning his ass. Hating to admit it, but Pence is the way out here. He has to start getting promotion.

    • Jeffrey

      As Ive been saying for a while. Trump is TERRIBLE but dems need to quit fantasizing about impeachment and get to work on 2018 and 2020. Stop worrying about memes and cute names to call him. There is nothing any of us is going to do about Trump. Mueller is handling that and we have to trust the system. He may bring him down…but he may not. The bigger problem is that we MUST get our party on message because his party WILL vote republican and they WILL vote for Trump in 2020 no matter how they may actually dislike him. As long as he is the republican presidential candidate he will have their full support.

  • bobbyjoe

    I think what has to happen is what has started happening this week, and that is corporations taking down the president by rendering him and his party unable to do certain business, thus leaving Republicans with no choice but get rid of Trump or be constantly blocked from major businesses helping them pass legislation or benefit financially.

    Pence is actually a good signpost of how this has started to become the way things work in the modern USA. Think about what happened when Pence and states like his passed those radical anti-gay laws– it wasn’t through the Democrats or the slow-moving courts that those laws started to fall, it was because major businesses and corporations started to say “you do this, we’re gone” and then followed up on it.

    Republicans control both parts of Congress, but what do they (actually) worship? Money. What do they constantly need? Money. Sadly, Big Business does have the power to jerk back the reigns of our government. And if they do what they did this week, and start making it clear that they simply will not work with Trump and his abhorrent views under any circumstances, then even Congressional Republicans will realize Trump will have to go.

    It’s depressing and ridiculous, but in the modern USA it might make more of a difference if we write or call places like Campbell’s Soup (like people did this week) than if we write or call our congresspeople.

  • JWC

    When all is said and done Trump works for the public not, as he thinks, the other way around You, the public and the interim election in 2018. have a very large and loud voice, to alter the seat in the house and senate and upset the balance, Do not think you can’t

    • Pat

      We have to protect the vote, register people to vote and get everyone who sat home out to vote in the interims. If those people vote, the R controlled congress is history. Local and state elections are also key to hold back the damage Dumpster is trying to do.

      • JWC

        it is inherietly important to do all you can to tip the scales back to a DNC balance

  • andrew

    As difficult as it will be to endure, I think that Trump’s remaining in office until after the 2018 elections, give the Democratic Party the best chance of victory in those mid-term elections.

  • JCF

    THIS. What I’ve been saying.

    All this talk of “I’ve got September 2017 in the pool!” (of Drumpf supposedly being gone) takes our FOCUS away from the 2018 elections. Any scenario that has Drumpf leaving before January 2019 is literally beyond our control. But turning Congress BLUE? That is something we CAN do something about!

    Focus, focus, focus…

    To elect Dems to the House:

    To elect Dems to the Senate:

    [And don’t forget in your States, too! Dem Governors, Dem legislatures]

    • Before we even talk about get-out-the-vote, shouldn’t we ensure that voter blocking via lists such as CrossCheck is prevented? There were multiple states last November where the number of voters deemed ineligible due to Crosscheck were at least an order of magnitude more than Trump’s victory margin. And that doesn’t even account for VoterID laws or easy-change tally systems that – by design – cannot be audited.

  • Gregory In Seattle

    And yet again, Democrats chose to support hate and bigotry rather than do the right thing.