Tired Old Queen At The Movies #148

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Otto Preminger brings an all-star cast to Washington to shoot Alan Drury’s Pulitzer Prize winning novel ADVISE AND CONSENT (’62). Set against the political atmosphere of the Kennedy Years, the cast includes Henry Fonda, Walter Pidgeon, Don Murray, George Grizzard, Paul Ford, Gene Tierney in her first role after a five-year bout with mental illness and Charles Laughton in his final screen appearance.

The plot focuses on a controversial political appointment whose ramifications include accusations of Communism, blacklisting, blackmail, homosexuality and all sorts of political intrigue. It’s a fascinating look at politics during what seemed to be a magical era and interesting to contemplate what was relevant then and what is relevant now.

  • another_steve

    Somewhat O/T (though movie-related): Hubby and I are going to watch the original (1934) “Thin Man” movie tonight. It’s being aired on our local PBS station. We’ve seen a few of the sequels and enjoyed them.

    Very gay.

    Many of the comedies of the 30s and 40s were very gay.

    • bdsmjack

      LOVE those movies! My husband calls me indoors by opening the window and vigorously shaking a martini, thanks to those movies.

      • another_steve

        Ohmigod and that dog!

        “The last Thin Man movie, Song of the Thin Man, made in 1947, starred his son, “Asta II,” whom Powell was said to have called “Half Asta.” But no one could replace the original, a four-footed amateur detective who helped Nick and Nora put the bite on crime.”


      • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

        Martini: shaken, not stirred. That evokes another series of movies.

        • another_steve

          Connoisseurs generally (not universally, but generally) prefer that a martini be stirred, not shaken. Shaking a martini clouds the drink and makes it weaker as more ice dissolves.

          James Bond was a bit of a “renegade” in that department, it seems. 😉

          • bdsmjack

            I’m certainly no connoisseur. My version of the martini, this summer is made with voddy and a little splash of cointreau, served with a twist of orange peel. Sometimes shaken, sometimes stirred, depending on my whim at the moment.

          • another_steve

            Well [adjusting my schmatta in a mildly disgusted manner], we could talk about vodka vs. gin martinis, bdsmjack.

            But because I like you, I’ll stop here.

            [visualize indignant limp wrist, as pictured below]


          • bdsmjack

            Hahahaha! *sips cocktail*

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      TCM just showed the whole series. We watched them all. The first is special.

    • Lazycrockett

      Give Asta a pat on the head for me.

    • bcarter3

      The original “Thin Man” is easily the best of the series. William Powell and Myrna Loy have fantastic chemistry.

      I particularly love the scene in which Nick Charles makes great use of a Christmas tree.

  • bdsmjack

    I love that he has Barbie on his windowsill.

    • marshlc

      He has so many dolls of Hollywood stars, wearing the iconic costumes of their major movies. I’d love to see the whole collection.

  • grada3784

    The movie was good. The book and the whole series was a heck of a lot better. Except the last one: Come Nineveh, Come Tyre, which was the fall of the US, was a real downer and eeriely similar to what’s going on today.

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      I should put that on my reading list.

    • bcarter3

      But be forewarned that Drury’s politics—and his writing—was very, very right wing.

      • emjayay

        I’ll pass.

    • grada3784

      I should point out that the flip side book to Come Nineveh, Come Tyre: The Promise of Joy ends with the US launching a “surgical” nuclear strike. The Promise of Joy?

  • BudClark

    Does anyone else object to the title “TIRED OLD QUEEN”? I’ve been called that quite enough as a pejorative.

    • Silver Badger

      Yeah, but lately I think of myself as a bitchy old queen. I’m so glad your back. Are you feeling any better? Thank your care provider for giving us an update. It was appreciated!

      • BudClark

        I’d rather be thought of as “One of America’s Stately Homos,” to borrow from Quentin Crisp (may his memory be eternal!).

        Yeah, I’m OK. We’re looking for another caregiver … after nearly twenty years, between taking care of my late husband and me, he had to retire and apply for Social Security Disability himself. I don’t know what we’ll live on for the next two years, IF he gets it … when I applied for it, my husband was still alive and I had a houseful of kids to help … now they’re all gone, and most of my friends have died.

        It’s not going to be easy … but I’m not one to give up easily!

        • DonnaLee

          LOL…Quentin Crisp was such a delight for me to run across on YouTube. I wish he had been filmed more in his time.

    • David Walker

      Hey, Bud! Welcome back!

      Tired Old Queen? Sort of, but Steve probably came up with it himself, so I’m inclined to laugh at it. It’s one of those things I see more as camp than pejorative…when we use it. Not unlike the N word. Or “queer,” for that matter. I still cringe when I hear that, even though we were supposed to own it, to reclaim the word. I get it intellectually but I still have a tough time accepting it.

      Take good care, please. So good to see you here again.

    • Daveed_WOW

      Own it honey.

    • yes b’y

      welcome back Bud

    • bcarter3

      I don’t “object” to the title, but for a long time, I didn’t watch the videos because of it. “Tired Old Queen” is not a phrase that makes want to know more about the tastes and opinions of a person who uses it to describe himself, on the Web or in real life.

      My loss, I guess, because Hayes’s videos are both entertaining and informative. The content is really good, but the title is alienating.

    • David Lightfoot

      Yes, but he chose it himself, and I think he’s adorable.

  • Nick in Pasadena

    Good film; glad he finally got around to it. He failed to mention a great cameo by Betty White as a female congresswoman (probably the only one at the time).

  • Snarky

    I wish he’d do “A Face In The Crowd” with Patricia Neal, and Andy Griffith as Lonesome Rhodes, an unstable media darling who rises to fame and eventually becomes drunk with power, trying unsuccessfully to fill the void in his soul. Hmm. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050371/

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    This really is a great movie, and Otto Preminger had enough sense to give Don Murray a shirtless scene.

  • Jerry

    I watched the premier of Max Emerson’s movie “Hooked” last Monday, about homeless LGBT youth, at SVC Theater in NYC. Steve Hayes had a rather comedic cameo as a priest. Despite the seriousness of the theme, there were a number of comedy relief moments. Anyway, all proceeds from the premier went to Ali Forney Center.

  • Steven B

    I want to thank JoeMyGod for introducing me to Tired Old Queen. Hubby and I have been enjoying his stuff for a few years now.

  • sfbob

    I don’t know whether or not I’ll watch the movie-not ruling it out but probably not right now. ON the other hand I’ve wanted to read the book for a very long time and this may be the reminder I need.. I remember my parents checking it out of the library when I was a kid (too young to read it myself). I don’t think I knew at the time what the shocking secret was. Found out a few years later.

  • emjayay

    A couple years ago Steve moved from a very cramped and loaded with stuff apartment that looked to be in Manhattan and built around the twenties. He probably lived in it for decades. Then suddenly he moved into what looks like a brand new or very renovated traditional style house, and now we see the trees and leaves in the yard. His intro buddy said something about it being in Washington. Some DC suburb?

    I’d like Steve to do a little tour and talk about this big change in his life. I think it would be pretty interesting.