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NORTH DAKOTA: Republican Majority Senate Rejects Bill To Formalize Same-Sex Marriage Recognition

The Associated Press reports:

North Dakota’s Republican-led Senate rejected a measure Tuesday that would have changed state law to reflect the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision that same-sex couples have the right to marry. The bill failed 15-31. It would have changed dozens of references, such as “husband and wife,” to gender-neutral terms. North Dakota law lists “one man, one woman” or “husband and wife” for everything from marriages and divorces to fishing licenses. The measure got a hearing last week in the Senate Judiciary Committee, which voted 4-2 to recommend against passage. North Dakota had state laws defining marriage as between a man and a woman, and 73 percent of North Dakota voters approved a state constitutional amendment in 2004 limiting marriage rights to man-woman couples.

RELATED: Upon the Obergefell ruling, North Dakota lawmaker Dwight Kiefert posted this on Facebook: “Yea, gay marriage is legal in all 50 states. Great victory for the METALLY ILL!!!!!”

  • Bared Bear

    “Metally Ill” wtf is that?

  • Will Parkinson

    We care about the law. Except when we don’t like it.

  • sword

    Typical Red State…wasn’t it MIssissippi or Alabama that finally outlawed slavery just a few years ago? “What does the Federal Constitution have to do with us…we’re Republicans!”

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Frack them

    • Cranky Squirrel

      Better than fucking them, I suppose.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Cold, Bland, Barren and Dry.
        The Land is unimpressive as well

    • Bared Bear

      If their water table goes to shit… gay marriage will be the least of their problems.

      • johncAtl

        I’ll settle for a fracking caused earthquake centered directly under Dwight Kiefert’s home.

        • Bared Bear

          Strategically placed sinkholes would be nice, too. Just to swallow a car or two of theirs and make their hearts race.

  • Ross

    “73 percent of North Dakota voters approved a state constitutional amendment in 2004 limiting marriage rights to man-woman couples.”

    2004.

    Note how such polls are always really old?

    Curious how they never take NEW polls on the subject.

    Curious.

    • Blake Jordan

      I would not be surprised if there were still more than 10 states that still poll with the majority of people against marriage equality…

      • Brian in Valdosta

        I would not be surprised if there were still more than 10 states that still poll with the majority of people against against Civil Rights.

        • Ninja0980

          Or interracial marriage.

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    • TrollopeReader

      but that was an actual vote, not a poll.

      • HadenoughBS

        With this anti-gay voter effort directed at the national level by former GOP political operative and then-closeted gay man Ken Mehlman. So thank a gay man for the hurt the GOP and their millions of supporters put on us in the 2004 election.

    • They’re always from 2004 because that was the year that the right-wing hate groups and the GOP (if you can tell the difference) put a lot of money into scare campaigns to “protect marriage.” It also got them a lot of seats in state legislatures.

      And after that, support for those measures started to slide.

  • Blake Jordan

    Is North Dakota actually known for anything positive?

    • johncAtl

      It’s not Alabama?

      • Oikos

        Not a very high bar.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Share a border with a progressive country

    • S1AMER

      Shares a border with an enlightened country?

    • Todd20036

      It’s near Canada

    • TrollopeReader

      probably not to South Dakotans.

    • ChrisMorley

      An insane ice circle formed in the Sheyenne River

      Thank you BBC News
      https://youtu.be/d5-K9UsiJZ0

      • JCF

        Not at all comparable, but one day walking dogs at the local park, I saw plastic bottle in the creek. The thing had gotten wedged on…something. And it was rotating like mill-wheel. Or a rolling log. Just perfectly. I stared at it for a couple of minutes, I couldn’t believe it.

        https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-22-2015/xgCOid.gif

  • Oikos
  • TSS

    Mentally ill. Heh. Because if anyone’s the picture of excellent mental health, it’s the incoming Republican president.

  • T-Batwoman

    We the mentally ill have empathy, a love of country, a sense of duty to our fellow man and we understand the role government plays in vital areas like infrastructure, education, health, foreign affairs, etc. We understand our duty to support those efforts thru taxes and civic involvement.

    The modern day patriot hates the government and wants to tear it down. They want to go to war with anyone who disagrees with them. They want to rape the environment and destroy the climate for those in the future. They have no empathy, they hoard money and have a fuck everyone else mentality. They don’t understand that a civilized society costs money and responsibility for it’s citizens.

    All I know is that the above does hold true and I for one am proud to be “mentally ill.”

    • greenmanTN

      The good news is that you are likely more mentally healthy than the people on this senate. The bad news is that other dimwits voted then into office, where they can do the most harm.

    • Acronym Jim

      Yea, but he’s talking about the metally ill. I’m guessing those are people obsessed with extracting every ore from the Earth regardless of the consequences.

      • Robincho

        In NoDak, what’s under the ground is SO much more interesting than what’s on top of it…

    • Kim K’s Kute Koochyβœ“α΅›α΅‰Κ³αΆ¦αΆ αΆ¦α΅‰α΅ˆ

      Trump : Empathy is the new cancer

  • Michael R

    North Alabama has spoken .

  • S1AMER

    Anti-marriage equality state constitutional amendments and laws will stay on the books for a long, long time (just as anti-miscegenation laws stayed on the books in Southern states for decades after the Supreme Court’s 1967 Loving decision).

    Republican legislators know damned well these laws/amendments have no force — but they also know they’d lose votes from their homophobic base if they try to remove them from the law books. (And, hell, I’d guess many, many Trump voters think he can make a magic wand and bring marriage bans back to life!)

    • TrollopeReader

      problem is that some redneck sheriffs (see Louisiana) think they’re still enforceable.

      • That’s why they keep them on the books — harassment.

        • Strepsi

          ding ding ding

        • Christian1234567

          They want an excuse to harass, but they also want to send a very clear message to LGB people that the state considers them inherently worth less than heteros.

          • david fairfield

            Well then if I am worth less, I get a tax break equivalent to their perceived percentage of my worth. It’s time to stop this bullshit. You want to discriminate? Pay my share of everything that I equally pay for but which I cannot have the privilege of participating.

          • Christian1234567

            …I don’t want to discriminate at all. I think it’s abhorrent. I was simply stating why else they made this decision. I live in MT, and the legislature only recently (in the past few years) took the sodomy law off the books. It was left untouched for so long because the legislature wanted to ensure LGB people know that the state considers them worth less. It’s the same reason MT won’t officially recognize same-sex marriages, nor will they add sexual orientation and gender identity to protected classes. The bigotry is strong in MT and ND, and ID and WY and SD, etc.
            It also took MT a long time to get rid of a law that it was legal to shoot Indians if they were in a group of seven or more.

    • ChrisMorley

      As of April 2014, 17 states either have not yet formally repealed their [anti-sodomy] laws against sexual activity among consenting adults, or have not
      revised them to accurately reflect their true scope in the aftermath of
      Lawrence v. Texas, 2003.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States

  • Joe in PA

    Keep fucking that chicken dumb asses.

  • olandp

    Tough shit.

  • Andymac3

    FU North Dakota, you aren’t even the best Dakota. Law still stands, you wasted your time over it with your little hissy fit.

  • Gaymurcan

    Ah, that would be the religious cult posing as a “political party” calling innocent citizens “mentally ill,” just saying. Sad!

    • Brendan Denehy

      According to the post above, we are ‘Metally ill’. So apparently being gay has something to do with bronze or lead or iron. Perhaps zinc?

      • gaymex1

        I missed that…good catch

  • Duh-David

    Intransigence is the new normal. Comrade Trump and the congress will just refuse to act on anything that updates the laws and will hope we’ll get distracted and move on.

    So there’s a law on the books that says women can’t show their elbows in public, well we’ll get to that when it becomes an issue for us, but for now …. Earthquake!!

    Release his taxes, what American’s are interested in is how low Mr. Trump is going to make their own taxes … Hurricane!!!

    The firing-squad says President Trump has been found guilty of treason? … Fire!!!

  • fiizok

    North Dakota? Is that still a state?

  • PopChips

    15-31? I didn’t know more than 46 people lived in that state.

  • David Walker

    In the first place, someone needs to remind them of their prairie history, the part where the guy wearing the red bandanna was the sex worker for the night.
    And while I posted this in the story about another hater, it seems even more applicable here. Thank you, BBC.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38506269?ocid=global_bbccom_email_11012017_magazine

    • You needed a kleenex warning on that link. But happy tears instead of sad, thanks!

    • ChrisMorley

      That was so sweet. I heard them interviewed on BBC World Service the other night. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04ksb9t
      It was about 4am but it got me in tears; love conquers all even though it took 10 years.

  • unclemike

    Yay! Another state I’ll never visit!

  • Tom G

    North Dakota is on my red state list of places I will never spend a dime.

    • Charlie

      Just added it to my list as well. I never do business with states that discriminate. I told 2 companies so far (in Indiana for a soft water system and Kansas for a refinance on my home in California) that I wasn’t interested in doing business with companies in a state that discriminates. The one in Kansas tried to get the last word and told me I was wrong to judge a business that way…he was blocked from my email and a negative comment was added on Yelp. If Million Moms can get away with boycotting, so can we…hit them in the pocketbook!

    • One of our sons when to college there, and left after a year. At the time he had bright pink or at times neon blue hair, he had ear piercings and wore fun colorful clothing. One night he walked to the convenience store alone and was followed by a pick up full of guys making fun of him. He called for someone to pick him up from the store, as he was fearful of being beaten up. He isn’t gay, but to those redneck sorts, looked the part and was harassed each and every time he left campus. One year was enough for him and back to Alaska, to finish college there.

  • Robincho

    With a capital called Bismarck, North Dakotans are already sunk…

  • The North Dakota state senate really wants to be more barbaric. They will really have a hard time topping places like Tennessee, North Carolina, Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, and even Indiana, but this makes it clear that they are dead set to do their best, or, rather, worst.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • FAEN

    “Come to North Dakota-experience 1817.”

  • Clive Johnson

    β€œYea, gay marriage is legal in all 50 states. Great victory for the METALLY ILL!!!!!”
    -Dwight Kiefert

    With these Republicans we’re dealing with psychologically stunted, emotionally immature people here–childlike adults.

  • MBear

    how unAmerican

  • Gene Perry

    Don’t give a rat’s ass what the ND Constitution says, the SCOTUS has spoken.

  • fuzzybits
  • leastyebejudged

    ND is really a remarkable white trash shit hole

  • Ninja0980

    They dream of being able to enforce their bans again, hence the reason they will stay on the books.

  • Schlukitz

    News Flash, North Dakota.

    Federal law Trumps State law. No pun intended.

    You still have to obey it, like it or not, just as Kim from KY found out. The hard way.

  • BeaverTales