MEXICO: Tens Of Thousands Protest Against President’s Plan To Legalize Gay Marriage Nationwide [VIDEO]

Reuters reports:

Tens of thousands of people across Mexico marched on Saturday to protest against gay marriage, challenging President Enrique Pena Nieto’s proposal to recognize same-sex marriage throughout the traditionally conservative country.

The marches were called by the National Front for the Family, a coalition of civil society organizations and various religious groups, and continued throughout the day from Mexico’s far north to the Yucatan peninsula.

Same sex marriage is permitted in Mexico City, as well as in several states including Coahuila, Quintana Roo, Jalisco, Nayarit, Chihuahua and Sonora. Pena Nieto has proposed changing the constitution to allow it nationally.

ssmmexThe embattled leader, who is grappling with discontent over a slowing economy, conflict of interest scandals, drug gang violence and a visit by U.S. presidential hopeful Donald Trump that led to his finance minister’s ouster, has opened himself to criticism by asking lawmakers to debate gay marriage.

Mexico’s Supreme Court said last year that laws restricting marriage to a man and woman were unconstitutional. However, many state legislatures have not changed their statutes to comply, meaning couples must file legal challenges on a case-by-case basis to get married. Gay marriage is still banned under local laws in many of Mexico’s 31 states.

Another march is planned for September 24th in Mexico City and NOM president Brian Brown will be there.

  • another_steve

    Ugh…that terminology, Joe. “Gay Marriage.”

    Is that like “Gay Birthday”? Or “Gay Chicken Soup”?

    • Yixing’s Fluffer

      Gay Chicken Soup -> Rooster Soup -> Cock Soup -> blegh

    • bkmn

      ..

      • another_steve

        “It’s not a ‘gay wedding,’ it’s just a ‘wedding.'”

        ^^ Word.

        “Gay marriage” is what our enemies call our marriages to differentiate them from “real marriage” or “true marriage.”

        Queer people know better and should not use that terminology.

        • Sporkfighter

          I would expect a “gay” marriage to be extra-festive, better than a regular marriage, gay in both the new and old senses of the word, because here and now, it’s not taken lightly by the participants, it’s not “what’s expected of people” when they reach their mid-twenties. It’s a choice, and it’s a hard won victory.

          I understand what you mean, but it sounds celebratory to me, rather than discriminatory.

          • another_steve

            My straight sister’s wedding reception was quite festive. Her new husband arrived in the ballroom totally shit-faced drunk. If you knew my sister, you’d understand why.

            My Aunt Bessie had a rip-roarin’ fight with Uncle Harry because he spilled his drink all over his good suit, and my mother — recovering from her recent hysterectomy — was doubled over in a corner somewhere, kvetching in agony.

            I still wake up screaming, having just dreamt of it.

          • BobSF_94117

            He got drunk between the ceremony and the party?

          • another_steve

            I never delved into it too deeply, but I believe he had a flask in his suit pocket and emptied it between the ceremony and the party.

            Again — if you knew my sister, you’d understand why.

          • BobSF_94117

            An oh-my-god-what-have-I-done sort of flask?

          • olandp

            I have two of those sisters.

          • another_steve

            Sympathy, babe.

            Mine is a good woman at heart, but if I’m in her presence for more than 20 minutes or so, my skin starts to crawl.

          • Todd20036

            I have one. Think, 52 years old, capable of having a temper tantrum of a 5 year old over something innocuous.

          • Sporkfighter

            That’s a special kind of festive, isn’t it?

        • Herald

          Allies know better as well.
          People who want to have weddings, people who want to get married and have marriages, period.

    • LADY MABELINE

      Totally agree . That terminology has to be retired.Marriage does not need a modifier.

    • Acronym Jim

      #marriageequality

    • Mike in Texas

      Yes … “Marriage Equality” is a more powerful term, IMO, because it encompasses the concept of social injustice.

    • djcoastermark

      You do have to admit Gay Birthday parties are the best, as is a Fabulous Gay Chicken Soup. Oh those fancy cut veggies in it are to die for. (oh brother)

      • another_steve

        Well here’s a gay birthday party that wasn’t so happy…
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqrL0XfjjJU

        • djcoastermark

          good lard the movie was such an awful caricature of our lives.

          • another_steve

            It’s a period piece, hon. Has to be viewed as such.

            It has, imo, some of the most quotable gay camp lines in all of cinematic history.

          • djcoastermark

            Yes, It is a period piece. I know it was a big controversy/hit when it first opened. By the time I saw it many years later, I winced more times than I can think of while watching. Oddly though, I did find some of the lines to be hilarious. I guess I can put it in the same category as the moves of times past that featured people in blackface. Totally wrong, but had it’s place in history and started a change.

          • another_steve

            For all its stereotyping of gay men, the film does contain some kernels of truth. Most of us of a certain age have known extremely catty gay guys as well as self-loathing gay guys.

            During the early 70s, the drama club of the university I attended chose to stage the play. As you say, the film was quite controversial back in those early days. I was a member of the school’s gay club (that’s what they were called back then) and we leafleted on campus, urging students not to attend the play.

            Today I would never do that, but back then our protest seemed right.

        • A fictional birthday party.

          • another_steve

            Oh I’ve been to worse, hon.

    • Christopher Smith

      Would you have preferred the reactionary favorite ‘homosexual?’ What exactly do you propose Joe use instead, ‘LGBTQ?’
      *snort*

      • another_steve

        As a modifier (when needed and only when needed), “same-sex” sounds okay to me. “Same-sex marriage.”

        When straights used to ask me what our movement was fighting for, I responded, “for marriage equality.”

        • Christopher Smith

          Semantic quibbling is so much the real point of an article about Christofascist-incited homophobia, isn’t it?
          You have missed the entire point.

          • another_steve

            Well thank you so very much for educating me, hon.

            May I kiss the hem of your schmatta now?

          • Christopher Smith

            Thank you ever so much for being so trainable, sweetums.

            Perhaps some time when you haven’t already had five cocktails.

  • PickyPecker
    • Sporkfighter

      Actually, they don’t have time. They have lots of problems, but they deflect their attention from their own pressing problems by seeking out other, bigger non-existent problems. In this, they have lots of help from politicians and religious leaders who are the beneficiaries of hopeless, harmful attempts to solve these non-problems.

      • Goodboy

        If only they marched for the right reasons there wouldn’t be such a big problem with Mexicans trying to escape to America. The level of stupid I see there is astounding.

    • And doesn’t even affect them.

  • kelven

    Brian Brown will be there because of course he is not going to miss any opportunity to keep the grift going. He must be wetting his pants at the thought of so many potential rubes, er… supporters.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    How many of those thousands are deeply closeted persons protesting to prove what they are not?

    • Philly Mike

      Well if the odds are similar to the US about 75% the other 25% are kiddie fuckers.

  • safari

    Then don’t get gay married.

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      But you know they really want to.

  • Stephen Elliot Phillips

    why do straight people care if two people of the same sex get a marriage license?
    as the old saying goes
    “Mind youre own damn business.”

    • Sporkfighter

      In the US, the majority of straight people don’t care, or, rather, they like the idea. The majority would like to be invited to a gay wedding, It would confirm their place in the “with-it” crowd.

    • Gigi

      For the most part Mexicans do mind their own business. My husband and I have travelled all over the country, without issue. They really don’t care what we do as long as we’re discreet. (To be fair, they feel the same avout straight PDA.) It’s the Catholic Church and the evangelicals who’ve made this an issue. They’re rallying the troops to “stand for ‘traditional’ marriage.”

      • Goodboy

        I sure wouldn’t want to travel outside of the protected zones though. I wouldn’t know who to fear most. The cops or the gangs.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    >> Brian Brown will be there.
    There should be a law against exporting hate worldwide.

    • safari

      (Build the wall?)

      • BearEyes

        a one way wall for bri-bri

    • PeterC

      OK, only if he has to stay there. forever.

    • Herald

      True, but he must be so jealous since he gets so few to come out to his marches in the US. To ease his pain he has to shove his way into someone else’s rallies. Still it would be nice if Mexico would deny him entry.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        It would be even nicer if they would deny him exit.

  • Where was this same march against the Catholic Church and the sexual abuse scandals that are ongoing…

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      No marches.
      But hey, some “thoughts and prayers” count for something, right?

    • Ernest Endevor

      Hence the assault on marriage equality. Get the faithful riled up about something that isn’t the rape of children and subsequent cover-up.

    • Smokey

      Kinda like this…

  • AJayne

    I first read about this on EoT today – part of a comment from VIRick there:

    This is also why our side recently held the first truly national LGBTI conference in Cuernavaca in order to better co-ordinate our efforts. As an example, counter-demonstrators carried these pious-looking “signs of the cross:” https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsCyFJgUMAAc9p3.jpg:l

    According to him, a lawsuit has been filed against the Catholic Church in Mexico for interfering with their secular government. http://www.equalityontrial.com/2016/09/07/open-thread-46/#IDComment1029904630

    • Acronym Jim

      Ajay, your PBS link doesn’t work.

      • AJayne

        I’ll go back to EoT and try to fix…

      • AJayne

        It is this photo:
        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsCyFJgUMAAc9p3.jpg:large

        VIRick on EoT provided the following:

        Translated into English, the sign reads:
        If you don’t like gay marriage, don’t marry with gays.
        If you don’t like abortion, don’t abort.
        If you don’t like sex, don’t have any.
        If you don’t like porno, don’t look at it.
        If you don’t like to lose your rights, simply don’t remove them from others.

        • Acronym Jim

          Thanks AJayne. And thanks for the translation, too.

          P.S.: Apologies for initially getting your name wrong.

          • AJayne

            You’re welcome. And no problem. 🙂

  • Halou

    Brian Brown is going to attend on the 24th, I wonder whose money he will be spending to travel there? Certainly not his own. Workshy scrounger.

  • Yixing’s Fluffer

    Well, after the whole absurdity with Trump I bet there are pro-marriage equality folks who won’t be marching in defense of President Peña Nieto. Another blow to progress from Cheeto Jesus.

  • Gustav2

    So don’t get “gay married,”

    • Should have victims being beat on for accuracy.

  • The Professor

    NOM continues running on fumes…

  • Marc

    Slightly off-topic, but Brian’s gotta celebrate for reaching NOM’s pathetic summer fundraising goal of $52,500… by just under $5,400. Way to go, Brian. I’ve had bowel movements that more people gave a crap about.

  • bkmn

  • Gigi

    You can safely assume you’ve created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do. – Anne Lamott

  • WIGuy

    I always find it odd that they protest a right that does not affect them one bit. Funny how their god works.

    • Sporkfighter

      If you have the right to be gay and happy, they have the right to be gay and happy. To at least a sizable minority, that’s an unsettling thought.

  • Macbill

    Millones de personas marcharon en México hoy a contrar el Amor.

    Millions of people marched in Mexico today against Love.

  • Friday

    You’d think Mexico would be anxious to do anything *but* imitate the Christian Right in America. There’s no up-side to that.

    • GanymedeRenard

      Don’t say “Mexico”, please. It’s just some (thousands, if you will) Catholic loonies. No different that their peers in France or Britain.

  • ExGayTherapyKills

    Why don’t the Mexicans come out and protest that fact that their country is run by drug dealers who kill anybody that does not go along with their pushing their drugs on Americans? Not to mention all of their children who have been raped and abused by the Catholic priest.

    • Sporkfighter

      Mexican drug dealers shoot people. Gays looking for a bit of acceptance generally don’t. They pick the safe target.

    • GanymedeRenard

      “The Mexicans” is like saying “The Americans”. More people marched on Mexico City’s Pride this year than those who are supporting this RCC’s-supported manifestation of hate. And, please, don’t make it sound like the “evil” Mexicans are trying to corrupt “innocent” Americans with their drugs. It simply is not that way.

  • edrex

    this is not insightful or clever, but i just need to reiterate that evangelicals really are terrible people. they have never advanced humanity in any positive way.

  • GayOldLady

    Another expression of love from a crowd that’s likely RCC. “And they’ll know you’re Christian by your love” or lack of it as is the case with most xtians.

  • BearEyes

    “religion” – the continuing cancer upon humanity.

  • greenmanTN

    They don’t have anything better to do, like stopping the drug cartels which are killing people in incredibly gruesome ways?

    • djcoastermark

      I believe there are less consequences bad mouthing the LGBT crowd than the drug lord crowd.

      • Goodboy

        Kind of like the brave street Preachers picking gay pride parades (peaceful people who just want to be left alone) to protest and not other communities where they’re likely to get their asses kicked.

      • George Waite

        Unless gays start praying to Santa Muerte….

  • JT

    Religion is the opium of the people. They get hooked and become irrational under its influence.

    • Robert Conner

      More like religion is the crystal meth of the people.

      • George Waite

        Whether it’s the crystal meth of the Fundiegelicals or the quality microbrews of the “Progressive” churches or the “happy pills” of the Mormons, it’s all drugs.

        • Robert Conner

          Agreed.

  • Gil

    Authoritarian assholes; they may as well be shouting “Down With Democracy”.

  • David in Palm Springs

    The message that gay people can’t be part of “families” is extremely offensive. Any religion that ostracizes a segment of society is evil, as far as I’m concerned. Are these self righteous bigots even capable of empathy? Doubtful.

    • It is offensive and 100% wrong. they claim to be pro family but in truth they are anti-family. They attack anyone that does not follow their narrow ideology and dictates so the only thing they are pro- is their own religious ideology.

  • Jacob

    Ah Christianity.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Sadly, the affliction is suffered by many in the world and it shows no sign a abating anytime soon. Sigh….

  • StraightGrandmother

    If you follow the link about Brian Brown attending the Sept 24th protest, it takes you to the NOM blog where Brian Brown talks about being best buddy with the lead organizer. The Lead organizer is shown in a picture with Pope Francis where the lead organizer is showing Pope Francis about the plans for the march.

    The BIGGEST and most organized opposition to equal civil rights for sexual minorities is the Catholic Church. They are formidable.

  • bambinoitaliano

    Did any of these same people show up to protest the racist Trump when he came for a visit? They are willing to be oppress as long as they can do the same to others.

  • Tom Chicago

    If you don’t want SSM, don’t do it. The rest is just quacking about your devotion to the “good old days” that weren’t all that good anyway, and your increasing frustration at the loss of control you thought you had over stuff that scares you, which control you never had anyway.

  • Blake Jordan

    Well obviously there are exceptions, but I despise straight people…

  • EweTaw

    There sure are a lot of white shirts, blouses and other white clothing in that enormous crowd, indicative of a lot of evangelicals. It’s a sad fact that the evangelical craziness has really taken hold in Mexico.

    • George Waite

      So no more Guadaloupe apparitions anymore, they think it’s idolatry?

      • EweTaw

        Probably.

  • Bad Tom

    Human rights should not be determined by popular sentiment.

  • Well of course Brian Brown will make a trip down….he has got to take advantage of the opportunity for a paid vacation…er “stand for marriage”

    As for the protesters the idea that marriage needs to be “protected” from same sex couples is at thus point fully absurd with clear reality showing that gay couples do not harm marriage. Protesting agasint same sex marriage is not pro family but rather anti-family.

    • Randy503

      No he won’t. Too many brown people for him to deal with.

  • anne marie in philly

    get with the program, amigos; LOVE is better than h8!

  • Christopher Smith

    Catlick lurrrrrve, tolerance, and charity at its finest.

  • Ernest Endevor

    Brian Brown just spooled on his eggs benedick.(sic)

  • James

    They couldn’t get it together to take to the streets in protest of a visit by Donald Trump, but when it comes to denying people their rights, nothing could keep them away.

  • Stev84

    That’s Catholics for you. Same-sex marriage bad. Fucking children ok.

    • TexasBoy

      While Mexico is predominantly Catholic, there are other Christian sects in the mix. And most don’t like gay people, we make a convenient “common enemy” to rally the sheeple and open their wallets. Speaking of which, is there anything new with “Slap the Faggots” minister, David Manning, and the foreclosure?

      https://youtu.be/K6NTOKUkzw4

  • Aldo

    I’ve been following this blog for a while, almost never commenting. It’s crazy weird watching a picture of my hometown in here, specially in that dreadful context . . . I’m a little ashamed of my city right now, to be honest. Fortunately, there will be another march here today in favor of equality. There should be some more encouraging photos of Guadalajara coming soon. Hopefully.

    • Bj Lincoln

      Welcome. Always glad to hear from new folks. I can imagine how you must feel. It has happen to me. I think I can speak for most of us here when I say we hope your country works it out and equal marriage becomes the law of the land for you.

    • GanymedeRenard

      Don’t be ashamed. How many people participated in this year’s Mexico City’s Pride parade? I’m sure there were many more than those bigots in the streets at this time. 🙂

  • fuzzybits

    Some people always have to have a boogey man.

  • Kenster999

    Among other things, I feel so bad for the gay kids in that group, forced to attend with their families.

  • Ken

    I’m starting to think a wall might not be a bad idea. (Just kidding!!!)

  • Bill T.

    The Catholic Church needs the breeders so that their supply of children is not interrupted.

  • RJ Tremor

    Gross as it may be, this is what Brian Brown wishes his marches were these days. They’re not though, so he’ll be sucking the blood from another’s neck.

  • JCF

    Good thing Mexico has no, y’know, ACTUAL PROBLEMS that could use this level of activism. /s

  • BudClark

    I wonder if as many would march against the drug lords, poverty, or the Catholic Church’s pedophila?

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  • KQCA

    Guess how many men in these photos are hoping to god none of their public park and adult bookstore tricks recognize them at the protest.

  • ceeenbee

    “Tens of thousands protest same sex marriage”

    What great news. With a population of 122M, that means tens of millions did not protest.