FLORIDA: Attorney General Pam Bondi Objects To Paying Legal Fees For Same-Sex Marriage Battle

Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi doesn’t think the state should have to pay the legal fees of the gay couples who successfully overturned her state’s ban on same-sex marriage. Because reasons. Via the Tampa Bay Times:

Last week, Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi objected to a motion concerning legal fees from lawyers who represented gay couples seeking to have their marriages recognized in Florida. In response, she wrote that because Florida voluntarily dismissed its appeal after the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed the right to same-sex marriage nationwide, the state should not have to cover the cost of the lengthy appeals process it initiated. Attorneys who worked to defeat the marriage ban said they have not come up with the exact amount they are owed. However, one suggested that it could be in the realm of $500,000. “It’s ludicrous,” said Elizabeth White, a Jacksonville civil rights attorney who helped bring one of the cases that challenged the state’s gay marriage ban. “Quite frankly, the state vigorously litigated this. Now they’re saying, ‘We lost, but we don’t want to pay.'” Last year, when a federal judge in Tallahassee struck down Florida’s gay marriage ban, the Attorney General’s Office went the route taken by many other Southern states and continued to fight. First, it appealed the ruling to the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta. Then, when judges there refused to delay the lower court’s decision from taking effect, the state appealed again, taking the case to the U.S. Supreme Court. It was unsuccessful there as well. Each time the state filed an appeal, lawyers for the gay couples fought back.

Same-sex couples have already been awarded their legal fees in multiple other states. (Tipped by JMG reader Dennis)

  • Marc

    She’s just not very good at this, is she?

    • ScottJL

      And yet they elected her…

      • Marc

        and undoubtedly will again

      • Stev84

        Being an AG has nothing whatsoever to do with being a good lawyer. For the voters it’s just another political position decided largely by party affiliation alone. For the AG it’s usually just a stepping stone towards higher political offices.

        • Ninja0980

          Indeed, it is, which I why I rarely trust them.

        • The-Noodle-Almighty

          You sure have that right, considering the (alleged) felon in the Texas AG job, and the former Utah AG, and so on…

    • sw42

      What, being a compassionate, rational human being? At understanding the law, despite being a lawyer? At admitting she’s lost and it’s time to move on? At being a poor loser? So many things to not be good at.

      • Marc

        E) All of the above.

      • Mike Rasor

        This has apparently become the new litmus test for an AG to prove their “pro-family” (i.e.. anti-gay) bona fides. We’ve now had three or four states fight paying the attorney’s fees. Once again they’ll all lose and claim to be victims.

    • Necessitas

      If she would have just put 50Ā¢ in a jar every time she got married or shacked up with a man, she’d have more than enough to pay her legal bills.

      • clay

        At least she hasn’t asked the state to recognize her current relationship as a family.

        • TampaDink

          She will when they eventually make it official….as belated follow up to her commitment ceremony in the Cayman Islands…which I suspect will happen days before she announces her run for the governorship.

        • olandp

          True, she is just a slattern

          • clay

            an honest slut.

    • Soren456

      Call Liberty Counsel. They know what to do.

      • Steverino

        What do Liberty Counsel and Donald Trump have in common? They each all but guarantee that the other side will win.

      • Gene

        Grift?
        šŸ˜‰

      • D. J.

        She did. Now she knows what happens and how much it costs when you listen to Mat & Anita Staver, John Stemberger and Marco Rubio.

    • OrliJoe in Fla

      No, actually Everglades Barbie is really good at this! It keeps burnishing her creds with the righties to run for Governor as Skeletor is term limited.

      • D. J.

        Florida didn’t mind paying George (rent boy luggage lifter) Rekkers $300K+ for his “expert” testimony when they were trying to continue to keep us from adopting children.
        They lost that one, too.
        Perhaps if she hadn’t dragged it on, first saying the Circuit Court ruling only applied to the specific couples that won their lawsuits, then saying our win only applied to those specific counties. Etc, etc…….
        She should have been in Florida instead of spending so much time with Piyush.

    • Gerry Fisher

      Yeah, but she’s pretty and blond!

      • Adam King

        Up there with Miss Piggy.

        • David Walker

          Ah, the old “lipstick on a pig” analogy. Good one.

        • D. J.

          Miss Piggy has better taste in clothes. Did Everglades Barbie keep the vagina dress?

          • Reality.Bites

            And in husbands.

      • charemor

        Bimbo alert!!!!

      • Bottle-blonde.

      • Homo Erectus

        So was Madeline Albright.

    • RoFaWh

      My gut reaction was that she’s clearly completely unqualified to be an Attorney General.

      The current political scene in the US presents a novel problem: how to keep unqualified people out of elective and appointive offices that demand a certain degree of specialist knowledge? Take that horrible Kentucky “Kim” bitch: given her so-called religious convictions against marriage equality, she shouldn’t be allowed within five miles of any blank marriage license And then there’s the insanity of putting a bible thumper on a board that deals with science education (including all school boards, btw).

      As matters stand, one can only say “It’s nuts.”

      • Ginger Snap

        Yes it is “nuts” actually it’s fucking nut’s.

        • Homo Erectus

          Some of those “Thumpers” are running for president!

    • LovesIrony

      or marriage

      • Marc

        Now, now. She’s been great at getting married. It’s staying married where she needs some work.

    • She’s extremely good at pandering to the base for her run for governor in 2018.

    • D. J.

      She:
      Cannot Understand Normal Thinking.
      She’s the one that dragged the battle out and ran the bill up so high. Typical Christianist hypocrite.

    • D. J.

      Bondi is very good at being a festering pile of failure.

  • Harley

    It’s not like she knows the law or anything.

    • Gerry Fisher

      Details!

  • Davidusca

    Seeing as though it was illegal to ever deny gay people the right to marry in the first place, I think treble damages would actually be in order.

    • Chucktech

      And that comes AFTER paying the legal fees.

  • TommyTune

    She’s a Republican – what else can you expect from the people who didn’t want to increase the debt ceiling in order to pay the bills we’d already incurred?

  • bkmn

    See you next Tuesday.

  • Bj Lincoln

    Maybe they can go after her personally for the money. I bet she changes her tune then.

  • bryan

    I’m surprised Pam didn’t say ‘Me ? Pay ? Don’t you know who I am ? ‘ She is acting like a spoilt reality tv star…

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      “Look at me! I’m blonde!”

  • Necessitas

    The hetero-privledge is strong in this one!

  • BearEyes

    You made your own mess and harmed others in the process. Own up to it.
    Your party only talks the talk about taking responsibility, yet denies all responsibility.

    • crewman

      She went out of her way to drag this out and harm LGBT citizens when the direction of the law and the constitutionality were increasingly clear. It’s hard to imagine a stronger case for when the defendant should pay the legal bills than when the State harms its own citizens.

    • Steverino

      Typical projection. They expect other people to pay their bills and clean up their messes, yet have the audacity to bitch about “entitlements.”

  • KarenAtFOH

    Of course she did. It’s what they do. It’s all they ever do.

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    I hope she learns that bigotry costs her: this time $500K and maybe next time her job. Seriously though this is stupid. She just doesn’t want to be know as the idiot AG that cost that the state.

  • Stev84

    If she doesn’t want the state to pay, she can pay the fees personally.

  • The Professor

    She should have asked fellow bigot Anita Bryant how things work for Florida haters. They can sometimes win in the short term, but eventually they lose just like the losers they are.

    • Librarykid

      with your permission: stupid losers.

    • Reality.Bites

      Except she didn’t win at any stage.

  • Michael Rush

    after finding out that dim bulb Kim Davis makes $ 80,000.00 a year the universe no longer makes any sense to me .

    • Phil

      In the great lighting store of life, these two definitely are stocked in the nightlight aisle.

    • Robincho

      I thought Dim Bulb was Josh Duggar’s daddy’s name…

  • Octavio

    Make America Great Again, Impeach Pam Bondi.

    • Homo Erectus

      Honey, what happened to your face?

      • Octavio

        I have been abducted by aliens from Smackmar. They are upgrading my corporeal self. Until then, I’ve been given a loaner avatar to help me smile through the pain.

  • clay

    “In response, she wrote that because Florida voluntarily dismissed its appeal after the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed the right to same-sex marriage nationwide, the state should not have to cover the cost of the lengthy appeals process it initiated.”

    -or-

    “They didn’t fire me; I quit, instead!”

    Yeah, Pam, the other blonde bitches aren’t buying it.

    • StraightGrandmother

      Which is a BS Statement, they appealed as far and for as long as they could appeal. They never gave up early. The Plaintiffs had expenses the whole way.
      Hey Pam, I HOPE the award of attorneys fees comes out of the budget for YOUR department.

    • Reality.Bites

      Which is basically like saying the defendant dropped his appeals right after he died in prison.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Pam, you are the loser. Losers pay.

  • Webslinger

    It is law Ms. Pam you will need to pay and deal with what you and others have wrought

    http://piq.codeus.net/static/media/forum_pictures/Crying%20spongebob_1615.gif

  • MDB

    Law School 101: Loser Pays !

  • Webslinger

    Pam I would think with your numerous divorces and marriages you know all about legal fees…

  • Ninja0980

    Pam sweetie, feel free to check in with Alan Wilson, AG of South Carolina who tried this crap last week and got smacked down.
    You fought the bigoted battle and lost, now pay up.

    • Gerry Fisher

      “…but reading is *haaaaard*!”

  • Ninja0980

    One more thing, as dim as she is, she knows this isn’t a fight she is going to win.
    But if she is like many other AG’s of both parties, she is going to run for higher office at some point.
    Which means she will continue to treat us like dirt and fight battles she can’t win, lest she lose a primary battle for doing otherwise.

  • fuow

    I can’t wait to hear from the christers around here who got oh-so-upset about poor-christer Bondi being ‘singled-out’ by us evil, nasty queers for just ‘doing her job’.
    Before they start with their defences of the mother-fucking C*nt, let me pop some more popcorn and melt lots of butter to go with it.

  • John Bickford

    Now look who’s truly demanding special rights. The rules don’t change for you just because you’re a bigot.

  • RKitty01

    Suck it up and pay your bills

  • Oh, Honey. You go sit down over there and let the adults handle this.

  • Bj Lincoln

    I went to the newspaper link and all the comments I read were for her paying the debt.

  • Skokieguy

    This is her spin (perhaps in collusion and with the recommendation of the hate industry) to make sure gays continue to be hated. Now Floridians can say ‘look at those mean money-grubbing gays, talking money from the pockets of good hard-working Floridians”.

    This is just like Miss Quad Marriage county clerk defying a judge’s orders to issue marriage licenses. If she goes to jail, the money begs will be a tidal wave.

    • Librarykid

      Actually this will be excellent campaign fodder for the Democrat running against her; She talks fiscal responsibility then stupidly runs up legal bills fighting lost causes.

  • bambinoitaliano

    She wants to party but refuse to pay her share after? Freeloaders! She does not understand that any action will have consequences just like her personal messy affairs. Pay up bitch!

  • Gustav2

    Republicans, for the most part, never pay their bills.

    • matt n

      that’s for sure. they just give things away to the rich and leave debt for their successors.

    • Homo Erectus

      Paying bills is for little people.

  • zhera

    I agree, the state shouldn’t have to pay. Bondi should pay out of her own pocket.

  • Marides48

    Shut up & pay up!

  • Sam_Handwich

    • She just needs to take it on the chin and swallow her medicine.

      • Librarykid

        It would be easier to swallow if she took it in her mouth.

      • Michael Rush

        ” Leave Britney Alone ! “

    • The Professor

      ^^ For the WIN! LOL

    • I’m confused, which one is Pam?

      • Six Pins Delores

        The plastic one.

  • F U Bondi. You are going to pay.

  • delk

    Go slather yourself on a car dent, Pam Bondo.

  • LonelyLiberal

    Sorry, honey, you wanna play, you gotta pay.

    Don’t worry, it just stiffs the Florida taxpayers. It’s not like it comes out of your pocket.

  • Gerry Fisher

    In other news, Pam Bondi objects to gravity.

  • lymis

    I’d be perfectly willing to agree that the state shouldn’t have to pay the legal fees. SHE should have to pay them out of her own pocket, possibly assisted by the governor and a few select other individuals who fought this. Why soak the taxpayers?

    But I will NOT agree that people who fight for their constitutional rights against a government who is restricting them should also have to pay for the privilege of winning something that should have been theirs all along. And that if the taxpayers don’t like it, they should start electing people who understand the Constitution.

    • Fyva Prold

      Who paid legal fees in Prop 8 cases?

    • Chucktech

      There’s no way employees of the state would be held liable for “doing their job,” however dubious we might think that job description is, but your second paragraph couldn’t be more spot on and succinct.

  • TampaDink

    As I posted in the TBT comments, I’m sure that Pam would waive her fees if her client settled out of court. /Sarcasm.

  • Kim Davis is taking the taxpayers of Rowan County, KY down the same road. The upside is that Davis will be able to rent her forehead for billboard space and offset the legal fees.

  • Ninja0980

    I agree with others that these bigots should be forced to pay out of their own pockets.
    If they want to fight battles they know they can’t win for the sake of politics, then make them pay out of their own pockets.

    • Homo Erectus

      ‘Scuse me – that’s my pocket the money comes from.

      • Silver Badger

        When you pay your state taxes, add a note that they are not to be used for bigot legal bills. It won’t do any good, but you may feel better about it.

  • j.martindale

    Here in North Carolina’s courts, it is a commonplace that the winning side asks for attorney fees, and the losing side opposes that claim. Then the court makes a decision, often giving something less than requested. Is this really much different than what is happening in Florida?

    • Chucktech

      I don’t see why our side should pay a goddam thing. This was an unconstitutional injustice that we had to pay to fight.

      • j.martindale

        Sure. I agree. But that is a different question. The thing the court has to figure out is what are reasonable attorneys’ fees.

    • olandp

      That is the way that Civil Rights cases work in the entire country.

    • Homo Erectus

      In Florida civil cases each side is responsible for their own attorney’s fees until there is a ruling. If either side wants to appeal, they must post a supersedeas bond to cover the costs of the prevailing party in the event that they lose. Since Pam appealed several times, I think her office should pay the plaintiffs costs.

  • duncansdad

    She wanted to make a name for herself, which backfired big time. Time to pay the Piper, sweetie.

    • I really thought she wanted a seat in the GOP clown car, maybe next election cycle?

      • Homo Erectus

        She’s thinking about running for Rubio’s seat. (sigh)

  • Blake J Butler

    Pam Bondi returns. the woman who looks like shes been invaded more times than iraq, and married multiple times, and sought a UNSUCCESSFUL crusade against delaying marriage equality in Florida, and feels that she doesn’t have to pay for her own challenge.

    hmmmm……

    • As the saying goes, “Rode hard, and put away wet.”

      • Blake J Butler

        Shell make a fine “great Florida whore” when shes older, which will be in about 5-10 years from now.

  • geoffalnutt

    For a long time I just thought the woman was plain dumb. Now I realize she’s both dumb and hateful. Go Florida!!!

  • noni

    Republicans never take responsibility.

    They want you to.

    • Chucktech

      That’s what taxpayers are for.

    • Circ09

      And we let them.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    I get that this is a standard process for the AG’s office, but really? That’s the best reason they could put forward to avoid paying legal fees?

  • mjcc1987

    Poor thing. Being stupid is going to cost the state.

  • Cosmo Tupper

    She knows how the legal system works. But just like she ignored how unconstitutional their law was, she will ignore her legal responsibility of paying the fees and costs to the victor as has been TRADITIONALLY done for more than 200 years in the US. So she is all about tradition, right?

  • DesertSun59

    She’s been married three times, tells the nation that it’s gays who are ruining the institution, and now this. This is an extremely unstable woman. Floridians DESERVE her.

    • Stev84

      2 1/2. She canceled the legal wedding to her boyfriend at the last second and they had a commitment ceremony instead. Now they are living in sin.

      • RoFaWh

        Sounds like somebody’s divorce didn’t go through.

    • Homo Erectus

      Present company excluded, of course.

    • Silver Badger

      Yet another hell bound adulteress. Exactly where do they get off claiming the moral high ground?

  • Robert Adams

    Maybe the gay couples should incorporate. Republicans never object to picking up the tab for corporations.

    • Homo Erectus

      Big Gay, Inc.?

  • TexasBoy

    Oh, Pam, don;t be surprised when the court says: “Your objections to paying have been reviewed and duly noted, and are summarily declared invalid. Pay up!”

  • TheSeer

    Fornicatrix.

    • billbear1961

      Vile fornicatrix!

      • I don’t care who she fux, just who she fux over.

        • billbear1961

          I feel the same way, Jay.

          But when the hypocrisy of the sanctimonious is exposed, they can expect to hear from me the same kind of insults they love to hurl at us.

  • anne marie in philly

    then you should NOT have fought against equality, bitch! pay up or shut up!

  • RobynWatts

    Too bad, so sad……now pay up!

    • Homo Erectus

      What’s really sad is that it didn’t cost her a cent. She’ll just send the bill to me and all the other Florida taxpayers.

  • Homo Erectus

    It’s not over yet. The first lgbt couple to marry in Florida is suing the state because the state won’t allow both partners to be named on their child’s birth certificate: http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2015/08/13/same-sex-couples-sue-florida-over-whos-allowed-on-birth-certificates

    • Silver Badger

      As well they should.

  • Theo McKinney

    What is she, delusional…? SHE should be required to pay from her own pockets, if you ask me.

  • olandp

    The state shouldn’t have to pay the legal fees. Pam and Rick should pay out of their own pockets

    • Circ09

      Nope. The citizens of Florida created the problem by electing the blowhards (twice) so let them fund it.

      • olandp

        We didn’t all vote for them. Both times Batboy Rick Scott won with a plurality, if I remember correctly.

      • Homo Erectus

        Honey, you live in Texas fer chrissakes. Nobody is holding you personally responsible for the elected assholes in your state, are they?

        • Circ09

          Yeah, they are and should since some of my personal tax dollars are being used to support all the bigotry my elected assholes are foisting on the public. Like it or not the people in our respective States voted in these elected assholes so they are legally speaking for me. Florida lost. Texas lost. Now we each gotta pay out some real money for that. It is the way the system works and will continue to work until citizens vote in numbers that matter and then vote for change.

          • Homo Erectus

            I get your point. I also work hard to help elect responsible leaders. French political philosopher Alexis de Tocqueville (1805-1859) said ā€œIn democracy we get the government we deserveā€, but does that logic extend to Afghanistan?

          • Circ09

            Our personal responsibility to what is in Afghanistan? Or the native people’s responsibility? My answer is both. And not only in “democracies.” A system is only allowed to persist because of its people.

  • I don’t know who Pam Bondi is, all I see is a suburb Britney Spears.

    • Homo Erectus

      Leave Brittany alone!

  • Queequeg

    Well, Pam, you wouldn’t shut up, now you have to put up (the money). She knew she’d lose but just kept going.

  • The-Noodle-Almighty

    Not only should the state to pay, out of her office’s budget specifically, the state should have to pay damages for vioalting the plaintiffs’ civil rights.

    See you next Tuesday, Pam Bondi, and Thursday too!

  • Mark

    oh hell….take it to court and lose…. again…..and pay more. She may think it is too much – but if the shoe were on the other foot – she’d be sporting a size 19 clown claw.

  • billbear1961

    You defended with hateful vigour a law which was ruled by SCOTUS to be a violation of our fundamental civil RIGHT to marry.

    And, bullshit, you have relented! As Homo Erectus points out, you’ve done nothing, in a RECENT case, to prevent Florida from refusing to place the names of BOTH same-sex parents on their child’s birth certificate in gross VIOLATION of their RIGHT to see their legal status as that child’s parents recognized!

    Stop BREAKING THE LAW!

    Stop actively persecuting your LGBT citizens, you EVIL woman!

    Shut up and pay up, FASCIST!

    • Evil is the abuse of power. She should never have had any.

      • billbear1961

        Indeed, again and again she has proved herself utterly unworthy to wield the power entrusted to her by the voters.

  • StudioTodd
  • xzargo

    Bitch.

    • billbear1961

      Sums it up pretty damned well!

      šŸ™‚

  • Let me put this so simple that even a bottle-blonde can understand….
    Bitch, you made those bills. You’re paying them.

  • Whicker Park

    Payback is a bitch….Bitch.

  • Despite knowing that the position her office was taking was wrong (or just being an idjit, which is one possibility) but going forward anyway because it made her more popular with her voting base, now she wants to avoid the consequences. She should just go quietly – she has already got her name down pat as being on the wrong side of history.

  • rednekokie

    I suspect she would have no problem at all if the state had won, and the other side was billed for the state’s cost in the matter.
    I wonder where she stores her brain at night! (or in the daytime, for that matter)

  • Frank

    Anyways, if the courts force them to pay, here in Florida they use our tax money, http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article30417807.html

  • NancyP

    It is a bit discouraging that the average comment here is about the AG’s looks and not about her political pandering. Politicians follow the PT Barnum rule, no one ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the American public. And yes, politicians make the most of any advantage they might have – money, looks, family name, etc. I am tired of the automatic assumption that female = dumb broad, instead of cynical corrupt politician.