Barton: Retirement Is A Pagan Concept

According to David Barton, only God-hating devil worshipers retire. And then God promptly (well, within a few years) smites the fuck out of them.

  • BearEyes

    Why don’t you retire from lying.

    • barracks9

      Because he would cease to exist. Heeeey – you’re onto something there!

    • PaulDouglas1

      “It’s difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it.”

      Upton Sinclair


    Utilizing his logic, Christianity is bad for you because every single one of them has eventually died.

    • Oh’behr

      Thank Gawd.

    • Silver_Witch

      +1000 up votes. Thank you that made me smile.

  • ShakesbearSF

    “First off, let’s just make it real clear… the coffee break is not a biblical concept.”

    • barracks9

      Nor is Worker’s Comp…or minimum wage…or OSHA…or any of that bullshit.

      • Gyeo

        I have heard a lot of God fearing peeps say OSHA or any form of worker protection is morally wrong. But I work in a conservative with a rich elite county so there’s that.

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      Either is equality and the Enlightenment but hey, who’s counting?

    • bsinps

      Nor was coffee

      • sfbob

        Nor were elections. Or republics with constitutions.

    • Oh’behr

      Use Social Security. Work of the devil. /s

  • TexasBoy

    Psssttt…David, don’t look now, but my Mom lived for 32 years, in good health, after she retired and enjoyed every minute of it.

    • PaulDouglas1

      My dad has lived 31 years past his retirement and still drives and gets along fine. This guy is as full of shít as the christmas goose.

  • Gustav2

    Has he EVER been to Florida!!!!!!!1111!!!!!

    • Octoberfurst

      Yeah I’d love to hear him make that argument there. Or in Arizona. “You retirees are sinners in the eyes of God! Go out and get a job you heathens!”

  • bkmn

    Urinating is not very Christian either Davey. Hold it. Hold your water!

  • MDB

    The latest installment in the What tha’ Hell department ?!?!?

  • crewman

    Remember when his book, “Jefferson Lies”, was recalled by its publisher because the book contained so many massive lies itself. Barton is one of the biggest liars on the right (and that’s saying a lot), who actively engages in revisionist history.

    • Bj Lincoln

      It’s scary that so many believe this crap.

      • crewman

        They want to believe it because it supports the arguments they want to make and the conclusions they want to reach. I don’t think they really “believe” it any more than they believe their Bible. Their “beliefs” are completely malleable to support their goals. But they make a lot of noise about sacred and unchanging their beliefs are.

        • Bj Lincoln

          I get your point and think we all do that to some extent. My fear is this guy is rewriting facts and the ignorant sheeple are feeding into this. I understand he is gaining followers too.

      • clay

        and want to legislate in local school boards and state education departments.

        • Bj Lincoln

          The bible as ‘fact’ in science class. And people wonder why America is so far behind in math and science.

          • Câl

            …and Human Rights!

          • ZhyKitty

            What are those?

            You know he goes on about retirement being pagan, but what retirement REALLY is is the joy of old age for those with money, and for those of us at the bottom, who do physical labor for a living, retirement is just when the body gives out and can’t do the job anymore. My Big Daddy is in his 50’s doing the back-breaking work of a young man outside in all weather. We live week to week. Retirement for him will come when he comes to the point that he can’t swing the hammer anymore, and our plan for that time is to overdose together so we won’t be a burden on our children.

            It just pisses me off to NO end to hear some privileged fuck like that say those things. Fuck him and the horse he rode in on. There is no such thing as retirement for the poor, and screw him for trying to shame those lucky enough to be able to do it.

          • Câl

            Yet another reason I am glad I live in the UK where state pensions exist for everyone even if you are poor and if you couldn’t afford to put extra in while you are working age, you still get a basic amount which you can live on. As my grandmother said once, the state pension may not be very high but if you have been poor all your life you are already used to getting by! Seems like common decency to me but to so many in the US that is seen as the evils of socialism!

          • ZhyKitty

            So true.
            I don’t begrudge anyone their good fortune of being able to have some sense of security in their old age, but here there’s just no such thing for millions of the working poor. When your body finally gives out and you can’t do it anymore, then you have to have your affairs in order…because you’ve no means of survival anymore.

          • B Snow

            I can’t upvote this — I don’t want to think of a world w/o Zhy Kitty in it! Write your damn book and see what happens before taking any irreversible steps.

          • ZhyKitty

            Aw… I was writing from anger.
            It’s just our “when all else fails” plan, as we’ve decided we’d like to go together when the time comes, anyway. Both of us are sick to death of grief and we’re just unwilling to go through it for one another. lol

            I’m working on the book, and even if no soul ever reads it, there’s still no reason to worry anytime soon. My Big Daddy may be getting on in years, but has the strength of 10 men half his age.

          • B Snow

            No need for apologies. I get that, about wanting to go together. 🙂

            So glad to hear you’re working on the book! I really hope you’ll let someone read it someday.

          • ZhyKitty

            It’s hard for me…emotionally, you might say…because almost everyone in my stories is already gone. When I’m working on it, it reminds me that for whatever reason, I’m still here and they’re all gone…so.. I have to take breaks from it from time to time.
            I think, for me, in a way, seeing it grow like it has over the last almost 5 years that I’ve been working on it…sometimes, I sit and stare at the size of it and I wonder if I’ve already had my life and if this is the wrap up.
            So again…I take a break from it.
            It’s been a harder journey than I thought it would be,,,not because I don’t know what I want to say. That’s rarely a problem for me…but because a lot of the time I feel shame or sadness…regret….
            Anyway, it’s come a long long way.
            Maybe someday, I’ll be ready to show it to someone else.

          • B Snow

            If the people in your stories are gone, all the more reason to pass your memories of them on to the next generation. But yes, taking breaks. You can’t go full steam emotionally for too long.

            The wrap-up of life? I doubt it, not in your case. 🙂 But I get what you’re saying. I think that’s part of every mid-life crisis. 😀

            I want to tell you not to feel shame or regret, but that’s easy to say to someone else, hard for the person feeling it to do. But look at what you’ve done with your life! Look at the good kids you’re raising and the friends you’ve made. Your past got you here. Please don’t feel ashamed about it.

            Keep going. It will be an amazing book someday. 🙂

          • Bad Tom

            I would love to read your book.

          • ZhyKitty

            : * )
            Thank you, Tom.

    • Jeffrey

      I will use Christopher Hitchens’ famous quote about Falwell “if you gave him an enema you could bury him in a matchbox.”

    • RaygunsGoZap

      Good read! I like the ending.

    • secretlab

      Since this Barton ‘revelation’ is pretty much in line with nuking Social Security and Medicare, which of the Koch front groups is slipping him their disinfo dough?

  • Steverino

    Translation: “The donations are running low. Keep working, or else!”

    • Paula

      That was my thought, too. Keep working until you are ready to drop, so you can keep giving to the church.

  • Rocco Gibraltar

    I would love to find a survey showing how many SSI disabled beneficiaries are self identified Christians. The whole WND board qualifies.

    • Justin

      Wheeling about on their Medicare/Medicaid-provided hoverrounds…

  • Michael Smith

    You should keep working until you die of exhaustion like God intended.

  • Terance Greene

    If the flock is on a fixed income the actuary tables show there is less to fleece.

  • Robert Conner

    Here’s the last criticism you’ll ever need to read about Christianity. Shame that it was basically written 17 centuries ago and we’re just now catching up:

  • olandp

    Everyone who retires dies. That is just a fact.

    • Silver_Witch

      Everyone who dies as well so I guess he is right. Besides wouldn’t want anyone to have Ny free time on their hands they might start thinking and realize they have been lied too.

  • Phil

    Easy for him to say. Tell that to a person who has a physically demanding job – construction, plumber, mover, heavy duty assembly work, etc. The body starts to give out.

    • clay

      garbage collection, police, fire fighter.

      Unfortunately, most farmers have to stay at it much longer than other heavy laborers.

      • ZhyKitty

        Unless you’re in one of these Southern “Right to Work” states that pays laborers cash all their lives so they have no social security and no means of ever retiring. There are men out here laying brick, roofing, and swinging hammers in their late 70’s right along side the young men.
        They work in all weather, 7 days a week if they can get it, and they can never ever retire.

  • joe ho

    lol. in biblical times the average life span was around 30 years old. not very many people around to worry about retirement.

    • William

      The feeble and infirm were quickly snapped up by dinosaurs.

      • Craig Howell

        Unlike today, when people elect dinosaurs to Congress, where they can feed upon the feeble and the infirm.

        • Bj Lincoln

          Very good!

      • Bj Lincoln

        Thanks for the LOL

    • Man_in_the_mists

      From what I read, the average lifespan was so low because of a really high infant/child mortality rate. Cut out the deaths of those under 10 (I think) and the average lifespan shoots up to a little under today’s lifespan.

  • MDB

    More “prosperity gospel” BS from the likes of sleazy grifter multimillionaire Kenneth Copeland – Oral Roberts’ prodigy (BVOV – Believer’s Voice of Victory Ministries) and friends.
    I wonder how many of his millions, his luxury jets, luxury helicopters and Fort Worth mansions come from the donations of retirees and their Social Security retirement benefits ???? Hmmmmm…………

    • William

      The IRS needs to rip apart the Copeland empire.

      • MDB

        (2008) Wealth of Copeland and family is scrutinized:

        • William

          That was 2008, and he is still raking it in. Land is sold to family members at below market rates. The land keeps tax exempt status because all the relatives are ministers and everything is used for church related activities. Hell, the janitor at the station is probably a minister.

    • furyatx

      A billionaire cause I stole it through fear and lies.

      • David Walker

        Doesn’t matter. The money is still as green as the rubes.

  • Lakeview Bob

    God is a hateful fantasy to live with. Why not believe in something good like Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy instead?

    • Steve Teeter

      I heard this story on Penn Jillette’s late podcast. Guy was talking about his kids, and his son had lost a tooth. The kid was about seven, so this was normal, a baby tooth falling out. He came back from school, troubled, and told his dad a kid at school had told him the Tooth Fairy wasn’t real. He asked, “Dad, who is the Tooth Fairy?”

      Well, the guy had promised himself that if asked directly, he would not lie. So he said, “Actually, the Tooth Fairy is your mom and dad.” And the little boy’s face lit up and he said, “You go to EVERYONE’S HOUSE????”

  • Allan_in_SF

    I’ve been a god-hating devil worshiper for a whole year now and didn’t even know it. It’s Senior Day at AMC so I’ll go see a movie to celebrate.

    • Lakeview Bob

      Can I join you? I am hitting my first anniversary this fall.

    • Paula

      I just hit the 2 year mark., I guess, I don’t have long now.

      • Bad Tom

        Defy the stats just to piss him off.

  • JT

    Most good concepts are pagan. It’s not a bad thing, dipshit.

    As a matter of fact, even “soul” is a pagan concept. Read some Plato, you illiterate moron.

  • Bj Lincoln

    It has been my experience working with the elderly that women have no problem keeping busy after retirement and men do. Men define themselves by their job and when that is gone, they don’t know what to do with their time. Many men never took the time to develop hobbies or interests past their job and household duties so when it comes to having the time they can’t decide what to do. While this is a very general statement, I have found this to be the case over and over. My father-in-law is a great example of this. He retired 6 years ago from 2 jobs, moved in, sat down and refuses to move. After years of trying to get him involved, interested and just plain get off his ass, he is ready for a nursing home because his body and brain has turned to mush.
    I have no idea what this has to do with the bible but I do think it is important to keep busy after retirement.

    • sfbob

      I should be okay then, even though I’m male. I retired in January and have been crazy busy ever since. Having nothing at all to do would actually be a novelty.

      My mom is my exemplar: she retired (reluctantly) in 1987; she’s now approaching 90 and is still relentlessly active.

      • Bj Lincoln

        That is awesome! I was thinking that most of my experiences are dealing with a different generations where men did their jobs then fell asleep in the chair being too tired to do much else. When they retired, mind and body were trained to fall asleep in the chair if they were not working. It is hard to break that habit. The last few generations have changed how men interact with their families and their free time. I hope this leads to a change in how they deal with retirement. My mom’s husband is 82 and is still running around after grandkids and friends as well as chores, cooking and yard work. He has slowed down but still gets up and moving.

    • David in Tucson

      My father-in-law, who will turn 85 in November, retired from teaching years ago. He tried to retire from being a church organist, but that part of retirement didn’t take. He’s still working as a church organist. He and his wife are both mentally sharp and physically active.

      • Bj Lincoln

        That is great! Retirement does not mean life is over and you are just waiting to die. Keeping part of an Org. or activity is a great way to have purpose. My mom is so scared she will lose her mind that she does all kinds of brain games. She is sharp and sassy because she keeps mind and body busy.

    • David Walker

      Oh, I think you’re right. I retired and shortly thereafter some not good things happened and the savings were depleted. AARP has a job service that pays you minimum wage and places you at a nonprofit which lets you look for work while you’re there. I came to enjoy my work at the nonprofit so much that AARP rightly threw me out of the program. Because of an office politics thing, I left there and am now volunteering three days a week at our LGBT Center. (Also, financial things have turned around so I can now afford to retire.) Three days is perfect for me…gets me out of the house, keeps me in touch with people, and makes me feel like I’m doing something for our community. We have an Aging With Pride group bag lunch once a month. Sometimes there are topics and sometimes we just sit around and talk. Words like “senior citizens” and “golden agers” are frowned upon. We’re old farts and proud of it. The Center also has an Aging With Pride evening group, also once a month, and that always has a topic…hospice, living wills, choosing a retirement home and how to know you’ll be comfortable there, that sort of thing.

      I think my point was that volunteering at a nonprofit that you like is an excellent way to keep as active as you want post-retirement.

      • Bj Lincoln

        I think we all need purpose and I am so glad you found something worth while to give you that. It’s awesome. We have done EVERYTHING we could to get my father-in-law involved but nothing has worked. It’s scary to find you have a ton of time and nothing to do. I too am an ‘old fart’. I cried the first time I got a Sr. discount. Now I gladly use any and all discounts I can find. LOL

        • David Walker

          The free bus pass is a life saver. Other discounts are good, but the public transportation pass is just wonderful.

          • Bj Lincoln

            I think we get a discount but not free in Baltimore. We live too far for me to walk to the bus stop. It use to come closer but they stopped. Having free transportation would be a great thing on a fixed income.

    • clay

      Not just activity, but even their identity is based on their job. Even worse in Japan than in the US. In Japan, there is a spike of suicides at around 6 months after retirement (and a spike of divorces as the wives say, “Stop ordering me around or get the hell out, I’m not your subordiante.”)

      • Bj Lincoln

        That is sad. I can see and do hear wives complaining about being ordered around. In Japan, don’t men do their jobs then go out with coworkers? If they spend so much time at work, they are probably totally lost when it ends. Not just their jobs but their social life as well. That sucks.

        • clay

          One of the most common retirement benefits is a cruise so the couple can get to know each other, again. It’s suspected by some researchers that the first filing for those divorces is the day after they land.

          • Bj Lincoln

            LOL LOL!

          • Bad Tom

            Too much time together too fast in a surprisingly small cabin, given how much it cost.*
            * Not including divorce proceedings.

    • CanuckDon

      I think many retired men also start to experiment with their same sex desires that always lingered but never really came to surface during their focus on career and keeping the money flowing in. The idle mind is a playground for the devil…and thank god for that. 😉

      • Bj Lincoln

        That is interesting. There have been a few women who didn’t come out until their 50’s and 60’s after divorce or husbands passed away.

  • AtticusP

    What an asshole.

  • TomF.

    This asshole is shilling for retail corporations, hoping he can help them retain older workers, since the youngsters they’re able to entice to work for them (not many) have zero work ethic.

  • Xuuths

    For a christianist, he doesn’t know the bible. Numbers 8:25 gives the specific year when the Levites were to retire: 50.

    • clay

      The people complained about Eli and Samuel working when they were so old.

  • furyatx

    Work, Work, Grif,t Money Give to me grift, grift, Douggar Douggar, NOM NOM NOM Money! I need a new car! Gawd!

  • Silver_Witch

    Two walking skeletons say what? Proof that the crazy churches are owned lock stock and barrel by the cruel conservatives. I can hear it now “hey preachers here are your talking points this week we lost the same sex marriage thingie so lets get their social security money and force them to die at their desk working” man am I glad I am a pagan.

    • Bj Lincoln

      Pagans rule!

      • Silver_Witch

        Indeed they do BJ…indeed they do.

  • jomicur

    It’s now clear why Baron tries to pass himself off as a historian. If he claimed to be a scientist he meet with even more derisive laughter than Ken Ham.

    • KnownDonorDad

      He is to history what Ken Ham is to science.

      • Bj Lincoln

        THAT should be on the SAT’s!

    • David Walker

      Am reading “God Is Not Great” and this morning read this:
      “Scientists have an expression for hypotheses that are utterly useless even for learning from mistakes. They refer to them as being ‘not even wrong.’ Most so-called spiritual discourse is of this type.” Yep.

      • GC

        Not even wrong” — a wonderful expression for statements like “2 + zebra ÷ glockenspiel = homeopathy works!”
        (example from RationalWiki)

        • David Walker

          Good one. I will visit rationalwiki later today.

      • McSwagg

        Most people are mis-taught in their high school science classes that a hypothesis is an ‘educated guess’. It is not. A hypothesis is a proposed explanation to an observed phenomenon that is testable through experimentation for verification or falsification. The ‘not even wrong’ hypotheses are such because they are not testable. There is no way to prove or disprove them.

  • Clive Johnson

    Television, modern medicine, the internet, my toaster nick-named CHET, animal rights, dark matter, Chopin and Mozart, sustained orgasms, oatmeal with blueberries and walnuts, the Keck telescope, In Search of Lost Time, critical thinking, meditation, biking, etc. x10000, are not Biblical. So the fuck what?

    • Bj Lincoln

      Lovely list.
      CHET? Really? All I can think of is “Weird Science” and Chet was not a nice guy. Does your toaster eat flies? LOL

      • Clive Johnson


        That’s his name. When it gets done toasting it makes this cute baby robot beep, beep, beep sound. So, my wife on a whim came up with CHirping Electric Toaster: CHET.

        “Open your mouth CHET” she’ll sometimes say before she puts bread in it.

    • clay

      corn, potatoes, chilies, tomatoes, sugar, banana, squash, sunflower, tobacco, chocolate, coffee, tea, coconut, pheasant, closed toe and moccasin construction shoes. winter sports, intravenous drugs, . . . he’s shit out of luck.

  • Kruhn

    I better tell my retired evangelical Christian mother to get her devil-worshipping hiney back to work! How dare she disobey the Lord by taking a rest after working her ass off for 52 years!

    So the good Lord can take a break but not His Creation! I’m disgusted by some of the bullshit people will resort to in the name of God.

    • David Walker

      I am disgusted by MOST of the bullshit people will resort to in the name of god.

  • Octoberfurst

    So retirement is “sinful” eh? I guess Davey boy thinks that people should work until they drop dead huh? Yeah I can totally see some 90 yr old in a wheelchair stocking shelves at Kmart. After all ya don’t wanna piss off God by enjoying your golden years.
    I also loved his comment about the average person dying 2 yrs after they retire. Both my parents have been retired for over 20 yrs now and they are doing fine. In fact I know a number of people who have been retired for that long and longer. Barton just loves pulling “facts” from his ass doesn’t he. But yet his brain-dead followers eat it up.

    • William

      The next time I fly, I want a 80 year old with Alzheimer’s working air traffic control. God’s will, que sera, sera and all that.

      • Paula

        What could possibly go wrong?

      • Câl

        Or as the pilot. Who knows where you might land, or indeed if!

        • William

          We might land at the Early Bird Special!

  • Davidjs

    So, according to David Barton, Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI is a God-hating devil worshiper for retiring.

    I’m sure hundreds of millions of Catholics would disagree with Barton.

    • Craig Howell

      You are forgetting that fundamentalists have historically been voraciously anti-Catholic.

      • SilasMarner

        Or as they say, “Papists”

    • TampaDink

      On this case, he might be right….but for different reasons.

    • clay

      you left out “idolatrous”.

  • TampaDink

    Is Billy Graham still going in to the office 5 days a week? How about G.H.W. Bush? Didn’t (saint) Ronnie keep working until he died?

  • greenmanTN

    Well I for one think it’s admirable that Miss Jane Hathaway found herself a career!

    Oh. That isn’t her?

    Never mind!

  • Octavio

    I made the mistake of watching the video. I’ve been trying to avoid these little bits of christain wizdumb, not because they always piss me off but also it’s 99.99999% certain to be nonsense from the mentally ill. All I can say is these boys’ gawd needs to smite them for wearing such doofus plaid shirts. Those shirts just reinforce their whole “Look at me! I’m a fucking dumb shit!” demeanor. Ass wipes. 🙁

    • pj

      the shirts make them just like you and me. it will be 100 here soon and i cant decide which flannel shirt to put on…..

      • How about that nice yellow plaid you have? It would look so nice against your tan.

    • McSwagg

      Copeland is a hick hillbilly from the Ozark Mountain region of Arkansas. You can tell from his accent and pattern of speech. WalMart flannel is his clan plaid.

      Barton is Texican just trying to blend in with his hillbilly host.

  • Chuck in NYC

    Someone tell this idiot it’s summertime now and he should stop dressing like he’s going to a North American pharmaceuticals convention in November.

  • pj

    are the tbags gonna take another run at social security? looks like they have all the bible verses lined up….

    • clay

      Yeah, like that’ll work.

    • If they try to end social security, that might just be the end to the tea-fools, and possibly the GOP as well. Lordy, I hope they try it!!

    • McSwagg

      They’ve convinced the millennials that the end of social security is inevitable. No millennial believes it will be in existence when they reach retirement age.

      • pj

        except ss is taken out of millennials’ checks too. unless the kocks plan to give them a refund with interest….

        i agree they have a long game to take over the country. i hope our children see it coming.

        • McSwagg

          You’re right, but the kids are convinced that SS will be allowed to go bankrupt and they will get no money back. It’s a cynical view, but that’s what they’ve been sold.

  • David in Tucson

    Funny thing. My dad lived 38 years in retirement.

  • Cuberly

    The man lies for a living. He’s insane.

    Take heart, Barton has always been his own worst enemy.

    There’s a Home Schoolers website where in one of the articles they’re compiling ways that Barton ruined conservative christianity for them. Not only that, but how conservative christiann home schooling has fallen short. If interested here it is.

    If not interested in the article check out the comments. Makes you realize that indoctrination, even from a very very early age doesn’t always work.

    Reason I bring this up is I’m beginning to think that Barton’s influence is overblown. Ever since his Jefferson book f’up he may have maintained his core followers but I think he’s slipping. Why else would be be desperate for the elderly to keep working…….sending him money?

    • clay

      The White Supremacists still use his shit in their private and home schools.

      • Cuberly


    • What I found interesting about the comments is how many of them after realizing the truth of what they have been taught, are still for home schooling.

      • Cuberly

        That is kind of weird. But then maybe they’re thinking it’s not all nutso indoctrination. That’s what some of them mention in the comments as well. Just removing the Barton and far far right wing stuff.

  • Toasterlad

    Sorry, looney-tunes…those of us who know there’s no magic castle in the sky when we die would like to enjoy the last 15-20 years of our lives taking it easy. But you go ahead and “work” til you drop. What is it you do, exactly?

  • MBear

    lots of concepts come from pagans that we use today as social norms…christmas trees and (I think) celebrating birthdays come to mind

  • Hue-Man

    Let’s apply the standards of 3,000 years ago to everything in our 2015 world!

    wiki says life expectancy at birth in Classical Greece was 28 years. Classical Rome 20-30 years but notes that if you survived infancy, at age 10 your life expectancy was 35 to 37 years, that is, the average 10-year old would die at 45-47.

    “Welcome to Florida where you can join fellow 40-somethings in your golden retirement year.”

  • Rebecca Gardner

    And that’s why we’re working diligently to end programs like Social Security so we can save your soul from eternal damnation.

    Go eat a bucket of dicks David! What a subhuman, sociopathic, ghoul.

    We need to apply this to each of these theocratic, plutocratic, bigots.

    • Interesting article. It really highlights the fact that these hate groups are ran by psychopaths, and for that matter many of the GOP seem to fall within those guidelines. Now we know why they don’t care about food stamps, or raising minimum wage, health care, etc, we were right all along, they have no hearts.

  • RobynWatts

    So says the liar who has never had a honest job to begin with……

  • Robert

    WHATTTTT a big ole queen!…gurrlllll check the stalls at Grand Central Station next time there…

  • Six Pins Delores

    WTF is up with the shirts? Is this a christian man talk show?

    • Its flannel time!!! They are trying to look so butch, isn’t that adorable.

  • Bad Tom

    Pissing off the AARP is always a wise political move.

    • ZhyKitty

      May he be viciously run down and eviscerated by angry blue haired people on vamped up hover-rounds.

  • DaveMiller135

    Did somebody spend their 401(k) money already?

  • leo77

    My father, a veteran of WWII, retired when he was in his early 70’s. He’s now approaching his 96th birthday and he’s excellent health.

    • JustSayin’

      See link in my above post. Avg age at death of a person in the US WHO RETIRES at 65 is 78.6 years old. Congrats to your dad!

  • MikeBx2

    Someone else may have already pointed this out but the reason they are having this absurd discussion is that their ongoing contributors are reducing their contribution amounts when they retire. The overwhelming majority of those who send money to these charlatans don’t have big 401k’s and/or pensions to retire on, but rather social security benefits only. These thieves aren’t gaining very many, if any, new contributors, so they are attempting to hang on to the ones they have, as long as they can. So transparent.

  • KQCA

    Actually, I’m okay with this. God-people can choose to work every moment of their lives until they drop dead. Not a prob. Life is full of choices.

  • JustSayin’
  • Talisman

    Based on how Christians have acted over the last few years, it would appear that compassion, mercy, truth, ethics, honor, and love are all pagan concepts.

  • SilasMarner

    These two, Kenneth Copeland and David Barton, are just fucking nuts!!!

  • rednekokie

    Sounds to me like just another Republican trying to get rid of Social Security.
    They have been at it since its inception in 1935. Why do we think they’ll ever stop.
    Of course, though, they gladly take the benifit checks.

  • teedofftaxpayer

    Then I’m a God-hating, devil worshiper. Because I’m enjoying my retirement.

  • McSwagg

    “The average length of time some lives after they retire is 2.4 years.”

    By this logic, if you just keep working and never retire, you’ll live forever.