Trump To Fire National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster

The Washington Post reports:

President Trump has decided to remove H.R. McMaster as his national security adviser and is actively discussing potential replacements, according to five people with knowledge of the plans, preparing to deliver yet another jolt to the senior ranks of his administration.

Trump is now comfortable with ousting McMaster, with whom he never personally gelled, but is willing to take time executing the move because he wants to ensure both that the three-star Army general is not humiliated and that there is a strong successor lined up, these people said.

The turbulence is part of a broader potential shake-up under consideration by Trump that is likely to include senior officials at the White House, where staffers are gripped by fear and un­certainty as they await the next move from an impulsive president who enjoys stoking conflict.

  • Lazycrockett

    We have known this for weeks and it’s happening but not yet. Not much Breaking News.

  • MikeBx2
    • Randy503

      So I guess the tweet firing Tillerson was designed to humiliate him? What a putz.

  • Treant

    No surprise there. I think Donny is surrogate-firing Mueller and getting madder every time when the firing hard-on won’t go down.

    • andrew

      I think he will eventually have Mueller fired and then all hell will break loose.

  • Ninja0980

    John Bolton is the likely replacement.
    Scream

  • Lazycrockett

    If its Bolton welcome to several military conflicts thoughout the world.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      the world the district

  • Keith D Plane

    If this is true and it sounds like it is, the shit is really gonna start hitting the fan. If he sticks Bolton in, this is gonna get nuts, that man is psychotic

    • fuow

      ‘get nuts’? I know what you mean, but, like, wow.

  • Natty Enquirer

    The administration is thinking of giving McMaster a fourth star as consolation prize.

    • Paula

      Is he still an active duty officer?

      • Natty Enquirer

        He holds the rank of Lieutenant General in the Army.

        • Paula

          I thought he was retired.

    • thatotherjean

      Can they actually do that? It doesn’t seem right, somehow, but that hasn’t stopped them yet.

  • Picabo
  • MBear

    More turnover than McDonalds in a meth neighbourhood in between 3 trailer parks

    • Paula

      You laugh now. Wait until he starts drafting average citizens to serve in the White House. We will all have the chance to be fired or resign. It would make a pretty cool resume entry.

      • William

        I’ll take anything that allows me to pick up the phone and order a military jet to come and get me.

        • Paula

          You could drive your car on every morning and commute to work in D.C. from Seattle.

      • lymis

        Wait?

        Maybe not the White House, but he put a wedding planner in charge of a major HUD branch, just to name ONE appointment.

      • MBear

        The little people?!? Ahahahahhahha…oh, that is such a jest. Could you just imagine? /s

      • saucetin

        It’s like Andy Warhol said: someday,
        everyone will be in trump’s WH for 15 min.

      • thatotherjean

        Average citizens would do less damage than the idiots that Trump appointed to his Cabinet or his Staff–and they’d know how to do their jobs at least as well.

  • andrew

    This is more of that creative staffing that the extremist right winger Ingraham was touting.

    • Paula
      • JerryRich

        These supervillains are far too competent for He, Trump, especially the hyper-intelligent Gorilla Grodd.

        • fuow

          Wait just dog’gone minute there, dude – what do you have against gorillas that you would compare them to the orange one?

      • Danieruw

        Is Giganta the large eye in the upper right?

        • Paula

          Not sure. Probably. The eye appears to be female. Unless male giants are into makeup.

  • Jeff D

    Is Bradly Cooper available? He’s handsome, very photogenic and was that sniper guy in a movie. So he has the credentials.

  • safari
    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Our species should have a biological check

      • safari

        We do.

    • ColdCountry

      Who knew that all you need to do to survive an atomic blast is to paint and clean your house?

      • safari

        It’s almost like the government was putting out propaganda…

      • fuow

        One of the most frightening aspects of all of this: The people who made these ‘how to survive an atomic bomb attack’ propaganda films were being honest. They were dealing with the consequences of Hiroshima seize bombs.
        By the time thermonukes were freely available, all of this was horribly out-of-date – even those early bombs were hundreds, if not thousands of times more powerful.
        I wouldn’t be surprised if the idiots running our government are still stuck in the ‘pony-bomb’ era when uttering all their rhetoric. Were North Korea to attack us or we to attack Iran, the slaughter would be far, far beyond anything a coat of paint could fix up.

  • safari

    I’m reposting the Painter tweet because of its gravity
    https://twitter.com/RWPUSA/status/974459156630523904

  • safari

    Remember: When the siren is steady, just get ready. When the siren wavers, prepare to become vapors.

    • safari

      Store your canned goods upside down to prevent radioactive dust from contaminating your food and water when opening.

    • safari

      There are two blasts: an over pressure that moves away from ground zero and an under pressure that moves toward it.

    • safari

      Wearing light colors may prevent light burns.

    • safari

      Remember the 7-10 rule: In 7 hours you’ll be exposed to 10% of the radiation received during the initial hour.

      • safari

        This holds in general with other units of time aside from hours.

    • Joe in PA

      Ground zero? I want to go there. First to go…I ain’t hanging around. I can’t pull off the Tina turner look. 😩

      • fuzzybits

        You and me both.

      • jimbo65

        I’ve often said I’ll drive to ground zero. I’d rather be vaporized than living through a nuclear winter

      • Todd20036

        Dupont Circle. Less than a mile from the White House.

        Flash of light, then I’m gone.

      • thatotherjean

        About equidistant from DC and the port of Baltimore. Not much chance we’d survive, thank goodness.

        • JCF

          Really not liking the fatalism on this thread…

    • SoCalGal20

      I’m just glad the nuclear plant closest to me was shut down several years ago. Although I don’t know if there’s still radioactive materials stored there that could be affected by a hack.

      Nuclear war OTOH I’ll be gone instantly. I’m next to Camp Pendleton lol.

      • safari

        Dry cask transfer of fuel from San Onofre’s spent fuel pools (which require active cooling) will not be complete until 2019.

        • safari

          On a bright note, Wikipedia’s reference to your local paper says the energy company is moving the dry casks elsewhere, which is nice.

          • Canadian Observer

            Nicer if they were moving it to Mar-a-Lardo.

        • SoCalGal20

          Thanks!

      • William

        My father wrote the plan of what to do if that place has an oopsie.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Hannity ? Palin ? Sarah Huckabutt’s brother to replace ?

    God dammed you to hetero HELL Paul Ryan & Turtle, you could stop this right fucking now!

    • Todd20036

      And that’s the thing. As much as we blame Trump (and deservedly so), the entire GOP has turned traitor on America.

  • houstonray
    • JCF

      Mitch McConnell’s first job in government.

  • Ninja0980
  • greenmanTN

    Of couse he is, because people who are even possibly sane have to go.

    You can’t have a batshit hootenanny with sane people around. They might bring sanity into the situation!

    WooHoo! Spring Break President! 🙀

  • HKDaniel

    And it’s not a cabinet position so no Senate Confirmation, which I would hope Bolton would never pass.

    Be afraid.

  • Henry Auvil

    Sean Hannity?

  • gaycuckhubby

    Is there confirmation or an official statement? Or named sources?

  • Henry Auvil

    Cliven Bundy?

    • TuuxKabin

      Cloven Bundy.

    • Paula

      Is that the ugly one?

      • paganguy

        Not sure that narrows it down.

  • SoCalGal20

    Fingers crossed Keith Kellogg gets the job!

    • Lazycrockett
      • SoCalGal20

        Trump apparently likes him because he’s “fun”. But he’s gotta be better than Bolton.

        • Danieruw

          Which means what? He grabs pussies too?

        • KarenAtFOH

          JFC!

        • thatotherjean

          It’s hard to imagine how he could be worse.

      • William

        He has such whimsy.

  • Lazycrockett

    We will be at war in Iran before November.

    • DaddyRay

      You think it will be that long

      • Lazycrockett

        Gonna take a while to get enough forces back into Afghanistan to invade.

        • DaddyRay

          That sounds like Planning – Trump doesn’t do planning

        • Dazzer

          The thing is that no American Allies (NATO) will join up for war with Iran.

          • JCF

            But Saudi Arabia will.

      • Makoto

        Depends on how Don’s poll numbers are looking, maybe even something to help an GOTP push for the midterms. Gotta get that war bump.

    • Ninja0980

      Only this time, no one else will support us.

    • William

      Saudi Arabia wants atomic bombs so they can nuke Iran.

  • Henry Auvil

    This new “Trump Unleashed” thing is terrifying me. I’m an old, and I don’t ever remember a time when the country or world felt so vulnerable or fragile.

    • JohnJay

      I was in grade school during the Cuban Missile Crisis, so that was pretty scary. But even then, you never really thought the Soviets were going to do something which would ultimately wind up inflicting a huge loss on themselves with a MAD retaliatory attack. We all played a game of strategy like chess. Unfortunately, Trump is playing Tiddly-winks, so it’s anyone’s guess what damage might be done..

      • Paula

        I was in kindergarten. I mostly remember how frightened my parents were.

        • TuuxKabin

          Senior in HS. We DRANK.

      • William

        Putin is playing chess, Trump is eating the checkers.

        • RGG

          Trump is eating the play-dough.

      • thatotherjean

        I was in high school, just outside DC, and my father worked in the State Department. We were all scared to death. I remember vividly how worried my father was, who had some inkling what was going on. We were aware that there was a reasonable chance that we were all going to die. Not a time I would like to live through again.

      • cleos_mom

        But even then, you never really thought the Soviets were going to do
        something which would ultimately wind up inflicting a huge loss on
        themselves with a MAD retaliatory attack.

        Yes — back then. The scarier details trickled out years later.

    • SkokieGuy- playing Helen card

      Its not Trump unleashed, its Trump unraveling as the pressure tightens + a giant increase in his shock & awe way of controlling the news cycle. Not much time to talk about Mueller’s investigation when there’s a daily body count.

  • JohnJay

    Just after the Rexit, Trump said something like “we’re getting very close to having the cabinet and other things I want.” Fer Chrissakes… who the hell picked your initial cabinet? You didn’t inherit these people you’re firing! You picked them as “the best people”. Any new person willing to fill an open position now will either be the worst of the worst (like Bolton)… or shifting around people already in the administration (sort of like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic).

    • Makoto

      I was just reading the other day how he’ll be able to get around a Senate confirmation because of shifting people from one post to another.

      If I was a conspiracy nut, I’d say that someone intentionally put people they knew could get into certain high-visibility posts who they intended to fire all along just to get someone much, much worse who really wanted the job all along, but wouldn’t have gotten past the confirmation hearing on it.

      But, since I’m out of tin foil at the moment, I’ll just say that Trump, in fact, doesn’t know the best people and is horribly incompetent, and has to flail around wildly for anyone who will take any position, leading to the twisted, incestuous staffing we’ve got going on.

  • KnownDonorDad

    So help me, if he appoints Bolton…

    • thatotherjean

      If he appoints Bolton, we’ll all need help.

  • fuzzybits

    Lets hope Tony Perkins gave his ok.

    • Cuberly Deux

      He’s got his bags packed and ready to head to Jerusalem to see the big J!

  • safari
    • safari

      This is my favorite page containing information from this era. It contains information about how the false 1971 EBS system was set up including how the scripts for the “white card” mentioned above (prepare for announcement) and “red card” (attack in progress) were set up.

      http://www.ae5d.com/ebs.html

    • Paula

      I have these devices in a display cabinet. (left over from my time as a NBC officer in the army) It maybe time to take them out and make sure they work.

      Model 750 dosimeter and charger
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9b0d6894752b6f62ff7aadf589a0e1133b3554b49a6e10542cc848cc5e68ae6a.jpg
      .

      CDV 700 Geiger Counter.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/962527ac11f84904857e56dc44e3f472f3f8209db3475994bf5a38c87be96c09.jpg

      • safari

        I was gifted a dosimeter once, but found it disappointing without a means to re-calibrate it. The fact that you have such devices with the actual CD branding is wonderful.

        • safari

          How do the settings work on the handheld radiometer?

          • NZArtist

            Off, rare, medium, well-done.

          • safari

            I imagine, yes, but details.

          • Paula

            You turn it on with the switch, The switch has 3 settings
            X100, X10, and X1. You remove the handheld probe and check things for radioactivity. The covering on the probe twists to the side. When closed it detects Gamma, open it is for alpha and beta radiation. I have the original operator’s manual with it too.

          • safari

            Thank you 🙂

          • safari

            Were you given instruction on how to report the findings? I just ask since how a radioactive spectrum breaks down in the event of an incident always puzzled me. Like: yes, you can break down gamma/not and rates, but were you informed how to translate that into hazard or individual isotopes?

          • Paula

            Yes, my Army training was very thorough.

          • safari

            Truly, Paula, I’m glad.

          • Paula

            On the right hand side, there is a small sticker covering a beta test source for calibrating the machine.
            It still works.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/222ea106ab6c81805c91797a96ec4609a4f26df4f2a0969e6c557a9d6bde090f.jpg

        • Paula

          I have an original fallout shelter sign, too. It was up at the school I worked at. The Head Custodian needed his computer fixed. Afterwards, he asked what I wanted for fixing it. I told him that I really liked that fallout shelter sign, The next morning, it was on my desk.

          • safari

            You have taste.

        • Paula
          • safari

            Thank you. However, I let the individual dosimeter go years ago. It was part of a present from a Chicago-area business that’d sell mystery boxes. My mystery box had a dosimeter, some glassware, a heavy acid-proof glove, other trinkets, and a rectal speculum for giggles. Well, I held on to what I thought was needed and got bored.

          • William

            Isn’t that handy!

      • William

        I snagged a couple of those sets out of my parent’s garage when they were moving.

    • johncAtl

      I grew up living maybe a half mile from the ocean in North Florida. My dad owned a grocery store two blocks from the ocean. I think I was maybe eight years old during the Cuban missile crisis, We used to sit on the beach and watch the navy submarine hunters flying low along the coast at night taking pictures looking for Soviet submarines. I thought it was pretty cool at that age. Of course at that age we also practiced getting under our wooden desks in case the Soviets did launch a nuclear attack,

  • Ben in Oakland

    What if they gave a government and no one came?

  • Ninja0980

    The hardliners in Iran are celebrating tonight.

    • Cuberly Deux

      Yep.

  • boobert

    I’ll vent a little here then go back to the night thread. The moron hates this job and wants to be fired. He will not quit . If they throw him out he will become a martyr for life. There are only 2 ways to get rid of him. Death or crimes so bad that he be jailed for treason. Until then he will become more and more unstable. The house and senate need to start passing laws that force releasing of financial history and mental test for future presidential candidates and keep this from happening again.

  • Max_1

    The President is firing his “best people”…

    • boobert

      And they were horrible choices. The next group will be much worse.

  • TrollopeReader

    i like the Chatter Away thread …. not too many nightmares on that one …

    • TuuxKabin

      I’m going back there, maybe some puppy photos, hell, even a guppie would be better than this.

      • Joe in PA

        I’m walking the dog and then off to bed. Spooning with hubs, the dog and likely the cat. 💕

        • kareemachan

          I slept like shit last night, and am SO hoping tonight will be different. Hopefully, the cats will help.

          And yeah, I take melatonin.

          • Joe in PA

            Ya know, over-the-counter melatonin has really worked for me. With so many scary things being learned about Ambien, I’m glad. Hope you slept better!

  • Max_1

    Who will Vlad approve of?

  • Jalapeño Business

    Great. I live in rural SW Virginia. I’ll be trading blow jobs for dog food during the nuclear winter. Good times.

    • safari

      I mean at 5 calories a load you could just have a very sore jaw.

  • jimbo65

    Once again, fuck you Comey. Thanks for helping to give us this hell .

    • William

      And Bernie and Jill.

      • kareemachan

        And let us not forget the people who are now crying about the leopards eating THEIR faces….

  • Henry Auvil

    I’m picturing “Judge” Jeanine Pirro replacing Sessions as Attorney General by next Friday.

    • JCF

      {shudder}

  • Jmdintpa

    lol and people on here say im an idiot and alarmist for advising we are not getting out of this peacefully. its not going to end in a blue wave, election, impeachment. its going to end in violence.

    • thatotherjean

      I would rather have blood in American streets–Trump voters vs. the US Army? How long will that last?–than leave a legally impeached administration illegally in place. That goes double for one so intent on destroying every aspect of government it touches. If Democrats win, Republicans must leave office, or our democracy means nothing.

    • David L. Caster

      At what scale? Scattered skirmishes, small pockets of violence maybe. We are not (yet) on a trajectory that takes us into even a limited civil war. There may be blood but not a lot. A great deal more must go wrong before the system would actually collapse.

      • fuow

        While I agree that we aren’t (yet) at civil war levels, I’m still upset over Heather Heyer’s murder.

        • David L. Caster

          At least a grand jury returned an indictment of first degree murder against James Fields Jr. after he drove his Dodge Challenger into a crowd of counter protesters at a white-supremacist rally in August, killing Heather Heyer. My guess (and prayer) is that he will never see the outside of a jail cell if he is convicted.

          And of course by now you probably already know Cities See Increase In Violent Assaults On Days They Host Trump Rallies

    • fuow

      You’re in good company. It’s rather alarming that even those who initially thought I was exaggerating the dangers hysterically are now saying much the same things.

  • William

    That Sword of Damocles has been hanging over McMaster’s head for months. It had to fall sometime.

    • safari

      That ain’t no lie.

      • -M-

        🎵Shalala, that ain’t no crime 🎶
        https://youtu.be/tdufVsPXtCE

        • safari

          Gotta correct me. Man. It’s wine night.

          • -M-

            🥂🍾

          • -M-
          • safari

            “And I said, ‘My mouth and his voice?! *pause* How much?'”

            I like her.

          • Tor

            No. Vodka night.

          • safari

            Freshman year is the year of the vodka.

        • William

          Have you been rummaging around in my brain?

          • -M-

            .🤪

        • Tor

          I thought it was going to be about Donna.

  • Paula

    Trump’s new National Security team.
    Gonna’ be a whole lotta’ pussy grabbing goin’ on.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2140532966a5484f33e54e223f48fc440652de9faaed259c1ea0a794e826d93.jpg

  • safari

    What concerns me the most is John Bolton. If he is put in McMaster’s place, we will go into a bloody war.

    • Leo

      The moderates may be gone but its the generals Bolton will have to talk to in the Pentagon. His reputation is well known at this point. If he goes as far as ground troops to Iran or North Korea there will be pushback. Not putting my faith in it, but it will be there. Other than that we already are practically everywhere in some sort of war whether by proxy or secret specialist, including Africa.

      Don wanted to invade Venezuela apparently so we tick one of the last continents off the list.

      • Randy503

        Don’t forget — we have to have Space Troops too!

    • johncAtl

      Bolton being considered for anything is scary as hell.

      • David L. Caster

        Yes, indeed.

    • Paula Key

      Anyone comparing firing records of Trump and Obama?

      • David L. Caster

        Oh yeah, Trump is way ahead of each of the last five presidents by factors greater than 2 by now.

        President Donald Trump’s first year in office has seen a record number of staff turnover, with 34 percent of the administration resigning, being reassigned or being fired. … The next-highest administration turnover rate was when Ronald Reagan was in the White House. In 1981, 17 percent of senior aides left Reagan’s administration.

        And this is A/O 12/28/17 (Newsweek)

        See also Why is Trump’s staff turnover higher than the 5 most recent presidents?, which is more current but reflects the same general statistic for the first 365 days of the Trump Adminstration.

  • TexasBoy

    Trump, of course, doesn’t want advisors of any kind. He wants yes men that will groom his ego and indulge his every whim without question…no matter what it does to the economy or even if it means all out war.

    • jmax

      “We need a businessman president who will run the country like a private company because they are all about the bottom line.” Well, you got your wish, Dad. Hope you’re happy.

      • Neely OHara

        My dad said the same thing — verbatim…

        • cleos_mom

          Both my parents are deceased; Dad in 1997 and Mom in 2011. Not saying I’m glad they’re gone but there’s a certain amount of relief that I don’t have to deal with their being Trump supporters — and they would be. They were GOPbots who would have voted for anyone as long as that anyone was representing the Republik Party.

      • killreligion

        Maybe but can we at least try a real businessman. This one is just a con who evades paying his debts. He is no businessman.

        • Lizard

          As Colbert said about Oprah running, “If we’re going to elect a self-made billionaire, let’s at least elect someone who is both self-made and a billionaire.”

        • cleos_mom

          I’d sooner try a real politician.

          Seriously. I long ago concluded that there are literally millions of people in the US who, if they had to have major, life-or-death surgery, would opt for a cab driver, electrician, stockbroker or Waffle House waitress to do the deed — anybody who’s not a member of the “medical establishment.”

      • Lizard

        This mentality baffles me. A president is a leader whose most fundamental job is getting people with different expertise to work together. A businessman is one who will slit the throats of others and skirt as close as possible to the line of the law to maximize profit margins. They’re diametrically opposed skill sets.

        He’s not even a good businessman anyway.

  • thatotherjean

    Isn’t McMaster part of a rumored “suicide pact” among Mattis, Kelly, and McMaster, that if one left, the other two would follow? I wonder if it’s actually in effect. What do you suppose would happen if they all quit at once? I suspect the White House would explode, with Trump losing whatever mind he still has left.

  • mark99k

    Nobody on Trump’s staff should print more than a few dozen business cards at a time.

  • Niko

    I was just reading the other day how he’ll be able to get around a Senate confirmation because of shifting people from one post to another.If I was a conspiracy nut, I’d say that someone intentionally put people they knew could get into certain high-visibility posts who they intended to fire all along just to get someone much, much worse who really wanted the job all along, but wouldn’t have gotten past the confirmation hearing on it

  • Tor

    In the worst-case scenario, if 45 serves a full four years, how many high-level advisors and cabinet secretaries will he go through? I can’t imagine why anyone would accept a position at even this time. It’s poison, and the person will be professionally damaged permanently.

    • johncAtl

      The White House is way understaffed. The State Department is way understaffed. And most of the cabinet-level positions are filled by idiots that have no idea, or don’t care, how the U.S. government works. And the damage some of them are doing may not be correctable for generations. We live in very scary times.

      • Tor

        Oh dear Johnc, we certainly do.

      • fuow

        Yeah, but the alternative was Hillary. I mean, that would have been YUGELY worse, right?
        (better add a heapin’ helpin’ of /snark to that).

    • Randy503

      The only ones who will accept are the ones who are so self-absorbed they say to themselves, “finally! i can get a job where i can really implement my crazy ideas!”

      • Tor

        And the ones who really have no idea.

    • David L. Caster

      It would be much easier to contain Trump if the Senate could be flipped. At least flip the House and that should help to throttle him down a little. No matter what, I strongly suspect that Trump will go to full term.

      Is Trump a crook? Almost certainly, but without proof he’s going to remain in office. The political climate has become so dysfunctional, it is unlikely the GOP will help Democrats move against him.

      • KnownDonorDad

        A flipped House could also mean impeachment – not removal, but the indignity would hobble him.

  • Rick

    It’s ok everyone. It won’t be John Bolton, it’ll be his cousin, MICHAEL BOLTON. He will sing us all into peace.

  • TheSeer

    Time for decent Americans to fire the Traitor at the ballot box.

    • LesbianTippingHabits


      And the way to do so is (1) register to vote and (2) Vote Against Republicans in November.

      • David L. Caster

        Vote against all Republicans. Send the clearest possible message.

  • baldo

    It’s ok everyone. It won’t be John Bolton, it’ll be his cousin, MICHAEL BOLTON. He will sing us all into peace.

    • Edmund Allin

      Why not Dolly Parton? She seems more sensible than half his cabinet, and she’d appeal to some of his constituents. … Or, maybe she’d be just too sensible to accept. She could sing to Trump to lift his mood. Or, again, maybe not.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXtDm08xFag

  • DJ John Bear

    Is there a spot on the Bingo card for McMaster? Do we have a B-I-N-G-O yet??

  • Lee Grupsmith-Pedersen

    By now anyone who goes to work for Trump should consider the position a temp gig and plan accordingly (keep the resume up-to-date and don’t put too much stuff on the desk).