Only Half Of Trump Voters Say It Would Be Immoral To Cheat On Melania, Only 20% Believe Hush Money Story

The Huffington Post reports:

Only about half of the people who voted for President Donald Trump say it would be immoral if he had an affair with pornographic film actress Stormy Daniels. The other half say it is not immoral, or they are not sure, according to a new HuffPost/YouGov survey.

Three-quarters of Trump voters also contend that, even if Daniels’ allegations are true, they are not relevant to Trump’s presidency. In fact, they claim to be barely concerned about a president’s private life at all: Seventy percent say an elected official who has committed an “immoral act” in his or her personal life can still behave ethically and fulfill duties in the public and professional sphere.

Some Trump supporters say the whole story is fake news: Only 20 percent say they find reports of the payment credible, while a mere 11 percent give credence to Daniels’ claim about the affair. Forty percent or more say they haven’t heard enough to weigh in on either question, or that they’re unsure about the allegations.

  • Treant

    Wait a sec. Is it immoral to cheat on what is, essentially, a mail-order bride, marriage by pre-nup, and no love assumed? I’m not entirely comfortable saying it is. If Melanoma and Dipshit both agreed that monogamy is not necessary, then ethics definitely don’t attach, and I don’t think morals do, either.

    • Honestly, I don’t care about either of their private lives. Until it is ignored by those who thought the world was collapsing, the sun was going to implode because of a blow-job.

      I believe that the Mrs. married cheetolini for reasons important to her. A steady income and a child. No matter what bad things you say about her, it’s obvious she adores her son.

    • evanedwards

      If those agreements are in place, sure. But, don’t swear a public oath of fidelity during the marriage ceremony.

    • ajchar

      The article fails to define immorality. The poll doesn’t either.

      Depending on who you ask hubby & I are immoral just for being married in front of an Iowa judge. Never mind the other stuff 🙂

      The whole “immorality” pretty much misses the mark for me. If he wants to screw around its his and Melania’s business. If Melania didn’t know or said no its whatever she wants to make of it.

      As a politician its not good.

      I find the Stormy affair cover up just another sign of stupidity and incompetence. But I love how it rubs the noses of all the Evangelicals in it.

      Stormy found her lawyer in Beverly Hills and its clear he knows a thing or two about “hush” agreements.

  • You get a Mulligan!!
    And You get a Mulligan!!
    Mulligans for everybody!!!

    • Judas Peckerwood

      Except Democrats.

      • Chucktech

        And homos…

    • another_steve

      Do I get a Mulligan for wanting to sodomize Jared?

      • Nah, you don’t need a Mulligan because you aren’t pretending to be all holier-than-thou.

      • Mark Née Fuzz

        two mulligans – one for each end

      • Chucktech

        Jesus, still Jared?? Not the recently fired personal stud muffin Trump assistant? That guy could stomp Jared’s soft pink virgin butt into the ground.

  • bkmn

    Twist those morals into a real knot, because Braise Jeebie!

  • JoeMyGod
  • hdtex
  • shellback

    “…they claim to be barely concerned about a president’s private life…”
    Unless he’s a Democrat.

    • Treant

      The next time I hear any argument like that against a Dem, I’ll just give them the finger. They’ve lost any pretense at the high road.

      • SFBruce

        John Ziegler, a conservative, has a piece on Mediaite, called A Comprehensive List of Things Republicans Can No Longer Legitimately Criticize Thanks to Trump. It’s worth a read.

        https://www.mediaite.com/columnists/a-comprehensive-list-of-things-republicans-can-no-longer-legitimately-criticize-thanks-to-trump/

        • The_Wretched

          dang, that’s a list and then you have to scroll down to see more of it.

          • SFBruce

            Tell me. I think I’ve been following things pretty closely, but working through that list, I thought many times, “Wow, I’d forgotten all about that!”

        • Marc: The Social Gadfly

          This is why they’re all in on anything that happens during his reign. And, why they’ll encourage civil war. It does now, as it always has, come down to whether or not our rank and file military men and women are willing to sacrifice themselves to follow a chain of command under the fascist Republican Party. They have an obligation to United States citizens to not follow any, unlawful order.

      • They never had it. They backed Reagan even though Nancy was five months pregnant (with Patti) when they married. While Clinton was being impeached a number of Republicans had similar scandals going on. This is as old as the religious right.

        • njguy54

          Remember Jimmy Swaggert? After his teary confession of sexual impropriety in the late 80s, he went right back to preaching (and raking in those sweet tithes). In fact, if you channel-surf this Sunday, you’ll likely see him — a lot older and grayer, but still there.

          • Hryflex

            But he cried on tv and said that “Gawd” forgave him.

          • njguy54

            Yep. God gave him a mulligan…

      • Nic Peterson

        The folks that don’t care live in trailer parks with ironic addresses like Gospel Ln. They are currently incarcerated for assault after being caught banging their under age wife’s mother.

    • crewman

      Corollary to this: if you are married to a Trump supporter (yeah, yuck), chances are high that they will cheat on you because they don’t see a problem with it.

      • Danieruw

        But could you cheat on them? Of course not! That would be immoral!

        • don

          Exactly what my wife…a tRump supporter…says.

          • prixator

            Since she is your wife, and not “ex-wife” or “soon-to-be-ex-wife”, I assume that the two of you never discuss politics?

      • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

        They don’t see a problem with it because they’re either the shooter or victim in a gun-related murder-suicide.

    • Todd20036

      When I read comments about how Hillary Clinton harassed the people Bill slept with, I quickly block them. The GOPers have no more rights to claim moral

  • evanedwards

    Alternate headline: 50% of Trump voters are sociopaths, 80% are credulous.

  • Bambino

    Asking Trump voters is like asking Roy Moore to baby sit your teenage daughters. Why even bother?

  • “Values voters”

    • Values voters, those who value money and power over everything. Especially when it comes to their “strongly held religious beliefs”.

    • The_Wretched

      Anything to take over and force everyone else to follow their religion.

    • Gianni

      Just don’t ask them about their values or to list them.

    • evanedwards

      They have values, they’re just rotten values.

  • bkmn
  • ISTlife

    These are probably the same people that got their knickers in a twist and yelled “impeach!” over a blue dress and a cigar.

  • Longpole

    Trump is not Bill Clinton so it’s ok.

  • dcurlee

    These people are beyond redemption

  • TexasBoy

    All the old straight white Trump voters wouldn’t consider it immoral, they’d be high-fiving each other.

  • Reality.Bites

    Melania is, basically, a paid employee.

    What he did may have violated her employment terms but it’s not cheating per se.

    • Todd20036

      She’s also an illegal immigrant.

      • Paula

        I am expecting her to flee the country and take the kid with her. She is probably secretly moving money out of the country now. Shopping for a foreign judge that will give her sole custody and no extradition.

  • Todd20036

    They really don’t give a shit either way. But they’re Nazis, and only a Nazi president will oppress minorities.

  • gaycuckhubby

    I know these numbers aren’t great but if they polled just Trump supporters then that’s a pretty significant chunk.

  • Wow…..evangelicals you have lost all ability to point fingers at anyone saying they are going against god’s laws.

    • Mark Née Fuzz

      Oh but they will, Biki, they will.

      • Yeah, but they demolished the high road years ago.

  • coram nobis

    But to the evangelical base, it used to matter how their politicians (and clergy) behaved. That has changed, but it is causing problems among the holier-than-thou set. See Michael Gerson’s latest quandary in The Atlantic.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/04/the-last-temptation/554066/

    Trump’s background and beliefs could hardly be more incompatible with traditional Christian models of life and leadership. Trump’s past political stances (he once supported the right to partial-birth abortion), his character (he has bragged about sexually assaulting women), and even his language (he introduced the words pussy and shithole into presidential discourse) would more naturally lead religious conservatives toward exorcism than alliance. This is a man who has cruelly publicized his infidelities, made disturbing sexual comments about his elder daughter, and boasted about the size of his penis on the debate stage. His lawyer reportedly arranged a $130,000 payment to a porn star to dissuade her from disclosing an alleged affair. Yet religious conservatives who once blanched at PG-13 public standards now yawn at such NC-17 maneuvers. We are a long way from The Book of Virtues.

    • bkmn

      The people at the top of that food chain (Falwell, Graham, Jeffress, etc.) know the people that follow them are ignorant sheep who can be reprogrammed with just a few repetitions. They get to burn through all that is donated to them without paying taxes, so they aren’t going to give this up easily.

    • JoeMyGod

      That piece (it’s a LONG read) is really good and was written by GWB’s former speechwriter who is himself an evangelical.

      • Gustav2

        Gerson has been writing against the Tea’s on the Christian Nation nonsense since the Teas beginnings.

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/21/AR2010102104858.html

      • -M-

        Christopher Stroop sees Gerson’s piece as whitewashing evangelicalism.

        https://twitter.com/lizkineke/status/974325650692759552?s=21

        • Gustav2

          He and David Brooks have the same problem. They see the rot, but can’t just seem to run from the 1950’s Boy Scout-like religion. It is white middle class nostalgia, which gave us Reagan and the last 40 years.

        • Mb

          On my second reading of the Gerson piece I had similar concerns as to the whitewashing aspect. That says something about how skillful Gerson was in his writing that with my first read of it I was actually a little impressed (although I immediately questioned the GWB AIDS praise and the comments about Rick Warren and his wife).

          • -M-

            And Stroop’s piece seems uncharacteristically strident. He’s really pissed about the denial of evangelicalism’s history and how that culture paved the way for Teahadis, Trumpism, and the way Republicans and the religious right will now endorse anything for the sake of power.

    • When was that exactly. No, they didn’t ever care about morals. If they did they’d have stuck with Carter in 1980. People are FINALLY waking up to how this works, but the morality talk from the religious right was always just a weapon to use against people they didn’t like. They never cared about their own morals or the morals of leaders on their side, just power. It’s been like this for 40 years now. Thanks for waking up. The alarm has been going off for decades and you’re really late to work now!

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Gerson is way too easy on his fellow evangelicals.

  • coram nobis

    “If you see someone praying too loud, go home and lock the smokehouse door immediately.” — Harry S Truman

  • kelven

    Any poll of this nature would be a lot more meaningful if the exact same questions were asked and the dotard’s name was replaced with Obama. The contrast/hypocrisy would be so obvious and it would be so entertaining watching the person squirm in their cognitive dissonance as they try to justify their answers.

    • Chucktech

      The reason that is essentially impossible is because, even for rabid Obama Derangement Syndrome types, no one can imagine Barack Obama screwing a porn star and paying her off to keep mum before his election, to name just that one example.

  • another_steve

    Poor Melania.

    In her husband’s mind, how could her boobies compare with Stormy’s?

  • joe ho

    lol. If they had used Obama’s name 100% would have said it was immoral.

    • And a offence that he should be jailed for, if not executed for.

    • Chucktech

      The problem is, “Obama” isn’t credible. “Trump” is totes believable.

  • Dayglo

    Half of Trump voters eat pull-apart Monkey Bread while watching “Maury.”

  • Jay George
  • Outlaw Woman

    OooooKaaaay … If I was asked an obviously loaded question like that about Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama or some other Democratic politician, I’d answer in some way just to fuck with the pollster too.

  • The_Wretched

    I don’t think non-monogamy is immoral but if the expectation for the Melania-tRump marriage was monogamy then it’s cheating. As to the question if the Stormy story is real? It’d be a sign of mental blinders to think anything else.Republicans are delusional.

    • PeterC

      If it is not real, why is Trump in such a toot about keeping it secret????

      I

  • JWC

    Those supporters who say its not immoral or are not sure are probably hung up on the question that Trump and Daniels were not related Like she is not his sister so what the Hay

  • bkmn
    • Tread

      You know, I never considered that.

    • evanedwards

      I’m not a member of any organized politacl party, I’m a Democrat. — Will Rogers

    • Chucktech

      This is why it would be perhaps unhelpful for Joe Biden to run. Love the guy, but the changing of the guard is well nigh upon us.

      • lymis

        It would be unhelpful for Biden to run in 2018 because the next Presidential election isn’t until 2020.

        • Chucktech

          Doh!

          I knew that, I knew that…

          Nevertheless…

      • Agreed. Same for Bernie. It’s time for someone new. Democrats have only won with someone new on the national scene in my lifetime. Carter, Clinton, Obama. Not one of them was the favorite going into the election. We need someone like that. Not exactly like any of them. But someone like that who resonates with what voters care about in 2020 (whatever that might be).

        • njguy54

          This is key. With Dems, the old-timers get smoked, and the dark horses ignored by the pundits win. Even Kennedy was an outsider back in 1960.

    • JCF

      Yes, we’ll find our leader(s) AFTER the 2018 election!

      Make it happen! democrats.org

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5a0df0138ed12eea6b3bc5307d9386a778e9acebff6474ccd0c9c4e0f48a7a0d.jpg

  • boobert

    Sex with a porn star while your married is okay, but heaven forbid gay marriage ! Just drop dead !

  • Bambino

    Trump voters are so loyal they only masturbated to Melania’s nude pic instead of Stormy Daniels. Unless of course their wives are pregnant or recently gave birth.

  • Boreal

    ‘Three-quarters of Trump voters also contend that, even if Daniels’ allegations are true, they are not relevant to Trump’s presidency.’
    I’ll bet these same voters had no problem with Bill Clinton……………..said no one ever.

  • David Walker

    And then there’s this. No, it doesn’t apply just yet, but Beauregard has posed the possibility.
    “Attorney General Jeff Sessions told a meeting of international police chiefs Thursday that communities need the option of ‘involuntary commitment’ for people who suffer from mental illnesses as a crime-fighting tool.”
    This can easily be construed to mean it’s time to involuntarily commit the fucking moron “as a crime-fighting tool” [high crimes and/or misdemeanors] for communities [say, perhaps, the US?].
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/sessions-says-communities-need-involuntary-commitment-option-mentally-ill-n856961

    • bkmn
      • The_Wretched

        Forced labor is not good for my mood.

      • I keep having to google the year we are currently living in. The “morals” and “standards” of our “leaders” are so medieval.

      • stuckinthewoods

        After the Civil War re-enslaving black men for convict labor was the way the nascent Alabama iron industry got a work force. I’m sure Mike Huckabee would agree with this present tactic since someone named Huckabee was one of the biggest users then….but that’s such a common name, isn’t it?

    • Chucktech

      hell thay gownna lock me up cuz im crazy as lowng as i get to keep my guhn

  • KnownDonorDad
  • Bambino
    • bkmn

      I’m waiting for the 9 months later follow up video

      • Bambino

        Elephants are classy animals, they get proper training and behave gently when mature into adulthood. Can’t say the same for the descendants of the Trump family.

  • rcdcr

    But, like, OVER 50% believe my 18 year monogamous relationship is immoral.

    This clarifies a lot about the human race and why most aren’t worth the bag of skin they’re contained in.

    • And constitutes a public menace to our society.

  • nocadrummer

    “Only about half of the people who voted for President Donald Trump say it would be immoral …” I’d bet 90+% of those are straight men, who already said, “I’d tap that,” having seen the naked pictures of Meliana.

    • Gianni

      Likely you’re right about that.

  • greenmanTN

    I never want to hear from an Evangelical Trump supporter about their alleged morals ever again. Ever.

    Nope. You just really screwed the pooch so you need to just STFU.

    • ambert

      They never had morals even before Trump.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Cuz it’s always been about control, and access to political power.

      • greenmanTN

        No, but they pretended they did.

    • Nowhereman

      I do hope that the democrats hammer them for it every time it comes up.

    • Chucktech

      That pooch has needed screwing for a long, long time. I think this is a good thing. This two-faced, christian piety bullshit has long overstayed its welcome. No more. Good.

    • Dazzer

      I made this post on a different thread – but your comment made me re-think it:

      A moral man doesn’t have sex with anyone other than his partner
      An ethical man knows it’s wrong to to have sex with anyone other than his partner
      A religious man asks for God’s forgiveness after having sex with a person other than his partner

      and

      An evangelical Christian checks with his accountant to work out the baseline drop in donations if he’s found having sex with:
      a) A woman other than his partner
      b) A man other than his partner
      c) A child
      d) An animal

      • Chucktech

        LOL! I’m not sure an evangelical christian noodles it to that degree.

      • JCF

        If I upvote points 1, 2, and 4, may I then say that 3 is BS?

        NON-fundamentalist religion 99% ethics & morals, and 1% singing Handel’s Messiah.

    • But you will. They live in a bubble now. They won’t hear your criticism or will dismiss it as “fake news”.

    • Reality.Bites

      I never wanted to hear from the before. There was never a time when they weren’t scum.

    • Craig Howell

      So when are lawyers on our side going to begin to challenge the very notion of “sincerely held religious beliefs” as an excuse to escape anti-discrimination laws?

      • greenmanTN

        It’s a ridiculous concept but it’s nearly impossible to challenge, which is why it’s ridiculous.

        “Is this something you just kinda think without really thinking about it it much, or is this really a sincerely held belief?”

        “Ummmm, a sincerely held belief?”

        “Congratulations! You just won an exemption to all laws and basic human decency!”

        IF this is going to happen I truly believe it should be legally required that businesses put up signs that state explicitly “We don’t sell cakes or flowers for gay weddings.” That way embarrassing situations are avoided on both sides, and people who don’t want to do business with those assholes can avoid them because they’re truly informed. Conversely, people who are anti-gay bigots know where to shop, and the market can decide.

        I never really thought that signs saying “We don’t serve your kind here” (whatever that kind may be) were due for a comeback, but if you’re going to discriminate you should be open about it. Then let customers judge how they feel about that.

    • Claudia Caswell

      I’ve lost all remaining respect for all Republicans. Permanently.

      • greenmanTN

        They have become enablers to a truly toxic regime so they don’t deserve your respect.

        • prixator

          And, have proven, without a doubt, that they place party ahead of country. One must be wilfully blind or ignorant, or evil to continue to support them.

  • -M-

    In other words, facts don’t matter to them. Cohen admits (so far) to paying her and we’ve seen the contracts involved.

  • JWC

    The GOP Moral highway The one they do not travel on but everyone else must

  • SFBruce

    Not that this is breaking news, but the fact that 20% believe the payment was never made are truly not getting news from anything remotely reliable. There’s just no question that Michael Cohn paid Stormy Daniels 130K, and makes the ludicrous claim that he did it with his own money and without Donnie’s knowledge or approval.

    • Natty Enquirer
      • Jalapeño Business

        OMG CHER IS DYING?????

        • Canadian Observer

          I think that is one of the stories in the NE with a nugget of truth to it… in the sense that we are all dying, eventually.

          • Jalapeño Business

            WHEW

      • Dazzer

        I know this is a slightly serious response to your post (which is great), but this is the first part of a trilogy of articles looking at the birth of the National Enquirer and its relationship with both Roy Cohn and Donald Trump.

        It’s a long read, but it’s highly recommended.

        It’s meticulously researched and very good journalism.

        If you have nothing else to do for a hour or so, this is definiely worth your time.

        http://popbitch.com/2017/10/i-the-tabloid-triangle/

        • Natty Enquirer

          I didn’t pick that cover entirely at random.

    • Gianni

      Are you suggesting that lawyers don’t do that? Who can one count on to cover one’s ass anymore?

  • Steven B
    • Christopher

      I call them acolytes.

      • Steven B

        I would argue that acolytes are cultists too.

  • Ben in Oakland

    So half of trump voters think that it is not immoral for a heterosexually married man to cheat on his spouse.

    And half of trump voters, who constantly bring up bill Clinton whenever the subject of trump willywanderings comes up, simultaneously believe it doesn’t matter.

  • And they wonder why Evangelicals have the highest divorce rate in the country.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Cult.

  • Hmmm, I’m wondering if they only polled male voters…..?

    • Reality.Bites

      If they’re polling Republicans they’d have to.

  • And lest we forget, the GOP is the Party of “Family Values”. You know, like “Sanctity of Marriage”.

  • Keith D Plane

    I could less anymore what Trump voters think. Fuck these idiots. I see ’em burning in the street, I’d throw another chunk of wood on the fire.

    • Tread

      They’ve proven themselves either willfully stupid, willfully malignant, or both. Good riddance to that fucking trash.

    • Paula

      Not me.. I have more compassion for them. After all, they are human.
      I would shoot them in the head so they would be out of my misery.

  • DisqusD37

    When Mueller gets close enough, I want all the Trump sychophants to put on their Mar-a-Lago bathrobes and slippers and drink the tainted Kool-Aid. That’s some hard truth to put out there, but there it is. It would be a fresh start for America.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Really? You’re rooting for mass suicide?

      • DisqusD37

        More like a jump forward in evolution.

        • DisqusD37

          Those idiotic enough to go that route would probably be awaiting pick-up on a passing comet.

      • Canadian Observer

        Not really, the large urban centres tend to vote Democrat. Although if the reverse were true, and cities were hotbeds of Trumpism I would consider endorsing their mass suicide… just think of the vacancies and downward pressure on rents.:)

  • Boreal
    • Bambino

      That woman certainly get outclass by Stormy Daniels.

      • Boreal

        She could be outclassed by a piece of moldy bread.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      You don’t know what this pic of this bitch does to my brain. Looks Exactly like our neighbor who comes over and drinks all of our wine. Then goes home without remembering to put her shoes on.

      • Boreal

        You should dissolve some ex-lax into her wine.

        • Ragnar Lothbrok

          Lol, well she looks like her, but doesn’t act like her

          • Friday’s_cat

            Is she a witty drunk?

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            not especially

          • Canadian Observer

            Does she think she is a witty drunk?

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            lol probably so

      • Marc: The Social Gadfly

        Why is she there?

        • Ragnar Lothbrok

          lol, good question

      • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson
      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        Is there any way to keep her from coming over?

        • Ragnar Lothbrok

          Walls are expensive

  • Lazycrockett
    • Gustav2

      Will Mr Matthews let you say much, really give a report?

      Oh, so it is just a tease for an article.

      • another_steve

        I would rather choke to death on my vomit than watch Chris Matthew’s show.

  • April

    These people are the same who demonize ALL Trans folk as sexual predators just for wanting to use a public restroom.

    • Jalapeño Business

      There’re not too fond of the L, G, B and Q letters either.

    • andrew

      I have read on another gay blog a number of G people who demonize T people.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    The Alt Liquor with a desperate aroma, the bitter taste of Aryan hate and the aftertaste of a Slovenian Whore’s rancid cooch….

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f658d17c91d78f8f3493ac6716c19f7050b0036c295758a9f0fc90147041d5ef.jpg

  • AtticusP

    It’s a new version of the movie, “Dumb and Dumber“.

    Starring Donald Trump as “Dumb” and all those idiots that still support him as “Dumber.” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b8dbdaefb046e597dcf9cdce34eb9f43393455315b24d32c5b34293e2cf7b905.jpg

    • bkmn

      I’m looking forward to the sequel – “Indicted and Indicteder”

      • Nowhereman

        I like the sound of “drawn and quartered”, too.

  • NZArtist

    The list of things to use against future Republican whining about a Democrat president is getting rather impressive.
    There wont be a single thing they can impugn a Democrat presidents morality upon where we dont hold up the long list and point to Trump doing something 100x worse that they fully endorsed.

    • Gianni

      “…..that they fully endorsed”…is the important key phrase when the opportunity presents itself to shove it to them.

      • NZArtist

        Yes. “So… it was never actually about morals, at all.”

  • Ron

    I am shocked.
    Half of Trump supporters have morals?!

    • Lee Grupsmith-Pedersen

      That many. The mind wobbles…

  • Boreal
    • Canadian Observer

      If only all it took was to dig a big hole. But I am upvoting the sentiment.

  • netman extraordinaire

    Their desperation is palpable. They sell their own moral souls as long as a democrat isn’t in office.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
    • Jalapeño Business

      LOL I’ve been asking that for decades. No matter where we end up, we’ll have friends there.

  • j.martindale

    Wow! Not even the pretense of virtue. They have a deal with the devil and have lost their souls.

  • Clive Johnson

    The myside bias or confirmation bias of a great many right-wingers is apparently so strong that other values along with facts about the world can be cast aside to preserve the imagined purity of their team. Amazing.

  • Jalapeño Business
    • Gianni

      Good one! 🙂

    • Alax Guardian

      Asking the question shows a level of introspection I haven’t seen from anyone in that hat.

    • Chucktech

      Note the ball didn’t say “no”…

  • Jerry Kott

    It should be a given now. If they were stupid enough to vote for him in the first place they are stupid enough to believe all the bullshit he is about. People that stupid don’t wise up.

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    I wish there were some calibration questions to determine just what they deemed immoral, and for which people that standard is applied and which people get a pass.

  • boobert

    Why on earth did Hillary walk back deplorables ?

    • andrew

      Because it was an unjust characterization of millions of our fellow Americans and it was politically stupid. The use of that unjust characterization is one of the reasons we are stuck with the most incompetent POTUS in our nations history.

      • “You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”
        She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”
        “Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well,” she said.

        I agree with boobert, she shouldn’t have walked it back.

    • Stogiebear

      So that andrew could come on here and bitch about and mischaracterize the presidential candidate with a uterus.

  • BeaverTales

    I just had a huge argument yesterday with an co-worker who said she didn’t believe the Dump -Stormy thing ever happened, and it was all a libruhl conspiracy….we got so irritated with each other that she quit, which is cool. I have mixed feelings about trusting anyone who is that delusional.

    • Gianni

      Wow! She did you a favor. Yes, some people have literally no ability to discern, comprehend, or process the world around them in anything resembling an intelligent manner. Very sad.

  • Gianni

    At this point, is it even debatable that Trump’s loyalista have way too much air space between their ears?

  • coram nobis

    And now, children, the poetry corner. Today we’re talking about Stormy’s trade.

    Oh Lip-Stick Liz! What a lousy life this is.
    It’s a hell of a break for a girl on the make,
    Oh Lip-Stick Liz!

    That’s right! Robert Service (1874-1958).

    https://www.inspirationalstories.com/poems/lip-stick-liz-robert-william-service-poems/

  • Henry Auvil

    Trump supporters: Where fambly values collide with conspiracy theories. Insanity ensues.

  • justmeeeee

    Politics makes strange bedfellows, eh boys?

  • Dunkerblinker

    they are fucking idiots.

  • Nowhereman

    What? Is this the same party who impeached Bill Clinton for lying about a consensual blow job? Are these the same people who were apoplectic when Michelle Obama wore a sleeveless dress?

    • matrem

      But one was a democrat and one was black. Duh.

    • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

      Don’t forget the tan suit, Sasha suspected of smoking weed, and Bo the dog running around pantless.

  • witch

    Most of tRump diehards live in a dream world (or nightmare, your choice)

  • ClevelandJim

    “Forty percent or more say they haven’t heard enough to weigh in on either question” So, 40% of trump voters are STILL living under a rock then?

    • matrem

      Willfully, it seems

    • Chucktech

      Where the hell do you think they came from in the first place??

    • Cipher

      They haven’t heard anyone on Fox tell them what to think or say yet. The MSM is reporting on Stormy and FOX is stuck on BS.

  • shivadog

    So half of Trump voters have morals and 20% have intelligence. Much better than I would have thought.

  • EdA

    It would be interesting and instructive to also ask trump voters how they felt about Bill Clinton about getting a BJ, asking half first the Degenerate Don question and then the Clinton question and the other half the Clinton question first followed by the Degenerate Don one, then if there were to be different answers, asking why.

    • LesbianTippingHabits


      Exactly.

  • This is Dominionism. Those in power are not subject to the same rules as regular folks. Of course that only applies to Republicans.

  • lymis

    While those numbers are pretty mind-blowing, it’s clear that they’re ignoring the fact that the problem with Stormy Daniels is the election law violations, not the affair.

    • LesbianTippingHabits


      Yes, and the Monica Lewinsky affair actually involved lying under oath, not the sex that, according to federal law, was a legitimate subject of inquiry.

  • Robert Adams

    The same group who wants to post the Ten Commandments in every public place you can think of. Let’s start with the White House.

    Thou shalt not commit adultery

    • LesbianTippingHabits


      Yes, the real issue, of course, is the political evangelicals’ professed morality.

      Say what you want about both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, they have never claimed to be saints.

  • jimbo65

    I’d like to know what these morons can point to that makes them so unshakeable in their support for him. And I don’t want bullshit platitudes like MAGA, “making us safer”, blah blah blah. Cite examples. And fucking Gorsuch doesn’t count

    • LesbianTippingHabits


      Although I am not a Trump supporter, and never have been [I held my nose and supported Hillary, with my vote (in a non-competitive state), time (in two competitive states, and money (and she just wanted more – Sad !)], I think I can provide an answer of potential interest to JMG readers.

      Basically, I think these voters think they can see through the media smokescreen. Like, Donald Trump may not smoke/drink, but everyone has a vice, and we know of some of his. They have low expectations of his personal “morality.” Sort of like progressives and Bill Clinton.

      So, given that Stormy Daniels, as a porn star, is a professional sex worker, well, who cares? ‘Better that he’s fooling around with someone of her ilk, than having an affair – i.e., betraying emotional fidelity and exclusivity.

      I think the same goes for the Access Hollywood tape, which, as I understand the situation, did not concern a workplace in any way. If I recall correctly, the conversation concerned behavior in a nightclub, a 21+ establishment in which adults engage in consensual adult behavior.

      An urban nightclub is certainly not a high society cotillion. People, including men, will behave like pigs in such a situation; aspiring gold-diggers who choose to participate just have to deal with it as they can, including leaving. And evangelical types don’t really care if people in a nightclub are shocked by (c)rude behavior; why were they there anyway?

      [Of course, there’s another reason for Trump’s curiosity, and I hope you can figure out what it is.]

      Thank you.

  • LesbianTippingHabits


    I think an even smaller percentage of Hillary voters believe it would be immoral for Trump to cheat on Melania.

    And we all know why . . .

    Sad !

    • Priya Lynn

      “I think an even smaller percentage of Hillary voters believe it would be immoral for Trump to cheat on Melania.”

      But then you’re not too bright.

    • Tor

      I think it would be more moral for Melania to cheat on the orange one.

  • misterjack

    I don’t care what deplorables “think,” and I use the term loosely.

    • andrew

      If we Democrats want to gain majorities in the Senate and House and retake the presidency, we should be concerned with what the “deplorables” think. They vote. We need some of their votes. Get real. We need to listen to them and deal with their legitimate complaints. Posting extreme comments on a blog is one thing, gaining a governing majority is quite another.

      • Tor

        Hillary Clinton with bazookas.

      • misterjack

        If you think you can engage them, without stooping to their level, good for you.

  • Dagoril

    So adultery is not immoral. Got it. So the reason everyone was so concerned about Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky had nothing to do with immorality either. Got it. So Bill Clinton went through impeachment proceedings why again?

    • Tor

      Adultery is not immoral as long as you appoint the correct judges to federal and supreme courts.

    • Tor

      Not for sex. For lying.
      Go figure.

  • James

    Well, that’s interesting. That’s long been the view in some other places, but I don’t for a minute believe this view of Trump voters will apply to non-Republicans. Or non-Trumps.

  • 1980Gardener

    While I find myself agreeing with many of the results of this poll, I can’t help but think that these voters would not apply the same standard to a Democrat.

    • Tor

      That is kind of a curious dilemma. D’s think one’s private sex life is private, except for people like Anthony Weiner or Al Franken, who were both thrown out. Bill Clinton’s epic blow job? I don’t care. He got impeached.
      I don’t know what point I’m trying to make, but I think the D’s are a little more responsible with their misconstruents.

  • KaBoomBOX

    Pretty sure Hair Furor’s base blames all the women involved for any lapses in fidelity. Stormy ‘cuz she’s a slutty-whore porn star. Melanoma ‘cuz she wasn’t able to satisfy her man’s needs. In their eyes, the faults always lie in the vagina.

  • JackNasty

    The only thing that anyone needs to remember about Trump voters is that 100 percent of them are gullible, racist, greedy, stupid, willfully misinformed, or some combination of the preceding, enough to vote for Donald Trump.

    Donald Trump has set a new low for worst President of United States ever. The people who supported him and voted for him bear full responsibility for the harm he does.

    • andrew

      To label 63,000,000 Americans as you have is counter productive as well as being bigoted and false.

      • JackNasty

        You couldn’t be more wrong. Give the ill-informed, smug, condescending, self-righteous denial a rest, Andrew.

  • PlutoAnimus

    To be Republican is to be a morally degenerate fucking moron.

    There is no other possible conclusion.

    • andrew

      That’s what many unthinking generalizers on the right say about us Democrats. Both are extreme and false statements.

  • dempseyzdad

    Who CARES what trump voters think. I seriously dngaf what they “think”, what they care about, and especially what they “believe”. Stop reporting on these idiots.

  • TheSeer

    Who cares what these enemies of human decency think? They need to be locked out of the civilized society. And some of them need to be locked in, and some executed for treason.

  • violamateo

    The 40% who say they haven’t heard enough have a point. Because if all they watch is Fox News, then they’ve hardly seen anything regarding this case.

  • DesertSun59

    What further proof does anyone need that evangelicals – the primary demographic in this survey – AREN’T what they say they are.

    Evangelicals were invented by televangelists, all of whom sell a product that doesn’t exist. Their marks purchase this non-existent product and tell others about that non-existent product, with glee, arms waving in the air, and with conviction based solely on claims.

    It’s the perfect scam!

  • Randy

    We are talking about people who don’t believe in evolution or climate change. Why should Stormy Daniels convince them of anything else they don’t want to know.