LIVE RESULTS: Pennsylvania US House Race

NPR reports:

Tuesday’s special election in Pennsylvania’s 18th Congressional District is coming down to the wire, with Republican Rick Saccone and Democrat Conor Lamb battling for a seat deep in Trump Country. President Trump won this Pittsburgh-area district by about 20 points in 2016, but it’s Lamb who has run a high-energy race to challenge Saccone, after Rep. Tim Murphy, R-Pa., resigned last year amid a sex scandal. Republicans have privately grumbled that their candidate has been lackluster, and the Democrat could be poised to pull off the upset. Polls will close at 8 p.m. ET.

538 reports:

Tuesday will likely be the last time you hear about a competitive district in the Pennsylvania 18th, but whoever emerges victorious in the special will likely have to fight hard to keep his seat in the regularly scheduled November 2018 election. How can this be?

Earlier this year, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court struck down the state’s current congressional map as too gerrymandered in favor of the GOP; in February, the court imposed new district lines that are friendlier to Democrats. The new map splits most of the current 18th District between the new heavily Republican 14th District and the swingier, suburban 17th District.

If Saccone wins on Tuesday, he has said that he would seek re-election in the 14th, but if Lamb wins, he is expected to go after the 17th, even though he would have to face incumbent Republican Rep. Keith Rothfus there. Of course, the loser could decide to take a second bite of the apple in either the 14th or the 17th as well. After all these long hours of campaigning and millions of dollars spent, it’s entirely possible that, at the beginning of 2019, Conor Lamb and Rick Saccone will both be members of Congress.

View the live results here and here.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Go Lamb! Go Lamb!!

  • Lazycrockett

    Here’s hoping we don’t have lamb for dinner.

  • Sam_Handwich
  • Lazycrockett

    Polls close at 8 EST.

  • Boreal
    • JT
      • Jim Michaud

        Ah, an oldie but goodie! 18 years already since this dance hit scaled the charts.

        • JW Swift

          Aw, crap. It seems like barely a couple of years ago. I still find it hard to believe, but I must be getting old .

  • Hiraku

    If nothing else, this is a symbolic battle. It would still matter. A victory for Lamb would still raise much of the morale for the Democrats.

    • Boreal

      A win we really could use.

      • Hiraku

        And we did!!!!

  • alc2018
    • safari
      • TampaDink

        “That looks like an autopsy.” ~Ouiser Boudreaux

    • Judas Peckerwood

      Good lord, is that cake decorated with CILANTRO?!!!

      • m_lp_ql_m

        Cilantro is the only thing worse than Donald Trump.

        • alc2018

          they might be fake to give it that fresh just off the farm look

      • Sam_Handwich

        mint would work lots better

      • alc2018

        glad you asked would you like a slice or two?

      • clay

        (should have been chives and tarragon for that fresh grass look)

        • alc2018

          I bet you say that to all the fake Lamb pies!

      • Marc: The Social Gadfly

        Remember, that’s “artistic” expression. Except of course if it’s for a same sex wedding.

      • Menergy

        I’d definitely prefer flat Italian parsley if that is cilantro in the photo

    • TampaDink

      Sacrificial Lamb?

    • clay

      So, what do we think? Is that a terrine with an outer layer of fat (love the brain-like hemispheres)? Is it salmon-loaf frosted with mashed potatoes (a nasty trick after 40 days of Lent)? Or is it strawberry cake, flavored with cilantro and cinnamon?

      Next set– will those googly eyes end up in a young child’s digestive tract?

    • Cackalaquiano

      Good god people cooked up some nasty back in the day.

    • William

      Run, just get away from that horrible place!

  • Henry Auvil

    Please let the cute, young one win. The Republican is repellent and stupid.

    • Steve Smith

      Surely that applies to all republicans?

  • Leo

    Conor’s more likely to last with the map redraw if he does win. Unless Alabama where I predicted a Doug loss by 3 points I’m not doing a prediction tonight. I had way too much to drink too. The pundits will be doing enough “symbolism” tonight so I’m not gonna crow on that either. See y’all around 9:30.

  • JT

    I’m in the mood for a hunk of lamb.

    • Treant

      “Eat Lamb.”

    • Jim Michaud

      I actually love lamb. It’s too gamy for most Americans, but it’s real popular in Europe. I miss those pickled lamb tongues you used to be able to get. A company called Rogers out of Lunenburg, MA used to make them. They were packed in a spiced vinegar pickle with a hot pepper and a bay leaf. Delicious!

      • Zeldacat

        I don’t usually like lamb, but I once got to eat lamb that had been running around the previous day. It was divine.

  • another_steve

    I’m prepared to be disappointed.

    My philosophy in life: Prepare to be disappointed and ready to squeal “ooh you go gurl,” when pleasantly surprised.

  • Ninja0980

    I am the only worried that this race has been overhyped and that if we lose by even one point, it will be the Democrats are DOOOMMMED narrative for the next week?

    • safari

      The outcome of this race will always produce a democrats are doomed narrative. It’s one of the little games we always play.

      • Judas Peckerwood

        However things turn out, it will be excellent news for John McCain.

        • safari

          Waking up in the morning is good news for McCain.

    • Treant

      Please. “Lamb only won by 8 points during a supposedly blue wave year. Democrats are DOOOOOMED!”

      There you go. Forget that it shows a cataclysmic 28 point shift. Just play down the actual win.

  • RainbowPhoenix

    Interesting that democratic men tend to be better looking than republican men.

  • evanedwards
  • Stubenville

    Polls close at 8:00 PM EDT. The weather is cool and dry; no snow, Fingers crossed.

  • Treant

    From the state news? It feels like a Lamb win. Not resounding, not vast, but a win.

    Unfortunately, that does mean it’s within cheatable territory. And I never count heads until all the cows are in the barn.

  • bkmn

    O/T – had a feeling this would happen. Insurance companies pushing back on arming teachers/staff

    https://twitter.com/RhutaBhayga2/status/973224969067900928

    • evanedwards

      Duh! It’s a liability nightmare.

    • Leo

      Edit: Nevermind.

      • clay

        It’s more than one medical insurance company pushing AGAINST cutting SNAP. It’s more than one medical insurance company pushing AGAINST cutting preventive coverage.

        Trump only listens to Fox News.

        • I hate rooting for insurances companys but here we are.

    • I hadn’t thought of that but yeah, just makes sense: Potential liability risks go WAY up.

      “Johnny Smith found Mrs. Davis’ loaded .38 and killed himself. She was an allegedly ‘highly trained’ teacher but now a child is dead. School district gets sued for millions.”

      No insurance company would want to take on that risk.

      It’s also proof that one answer to America’s gun addiction would be to require liability insurance for gun owners.

      • Gayer Than Thou

        It’s lose-lose for the school districts: either there’s a risk of accidental (or not-so-accidental) shootings that injure/kill children, or the risk of failure to shoot to protect children. Both scenarios are likely, and likely to end in litigation. And whatever ends in litigation ends up involving an insurance company.

      • Judas Peckerwood

        “It’s also proof that one answer to America’s gun addiction would be to require liability insurance for gun owners.”

        This!

        • RemusL

          How ironic that with insurance liability issues, the ultimate showdown might become crazy gun culture vs crazy litigation culture.

      • Menergy

        Just like car owners/drivers have to have liability insurance coverage. Yes! (But of course, the NRA will fight back on this and get the Dump to wage war against the idea of requiring the sacred gun ownership community to be accountable.)

      • JWC

        with a NRA family reduction clause

    • Nic Peterson

      So we are back to Reload, Reince, Repeat?

    • Prost Seattle

      Amazing the power insurance companies have.

    • JCF

      “Rhuta Bhayga”?

    • Todd20036

      Check out the links. Lamb is ahead by 20 points. Seriously.

      18 points, with 10% reporting in

      Lamb ahead by 6, 62% reporting in

      Lamb ahead by 1.5% 87% reporting in

      Lamb ahead by 0.5%, 94% reporting in

      Lamb ahead by 0.3%, 98% reporting in

  • Slippy_World
    • Lazycrockett

      Wonderful show.

      • jimbo65

        It was. And who knew what a great actor Bryan Cranston really was. Going from comedy to the dark subject of Breaking Bad.

        • RickCabral

          I really liked the kids, each one extraordinary in his own right..

  • ccc

    Waiting to see Lamb chop him to pieces!

    • edrex

      nice. i want lamb to shank him in the polling booth.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Expect a lot of GOP dirty tricks.
    The weaselpeckers are desperate for this win.

    • evanedwards

      “Weaselpeckers,” that’s going straight into my vocabulary. 🙂

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        It’s a perfectly cromulent word.

  • Natty Enquirer

    Agnus octavusdecimi
    Dona nobis pacem.

    • m_lp_ql_m

      Translation:
      “Agnes has two devices in me
      Donna knows peace.”

      • Natty Enquirer

        You were told to put down that altar boy and pay attention in Latin class.

    • evanedwards

      Lamb 18
      Grant us peace

      Is it a hymn?

      On edit: Doh! I get it.

  • alc2018
  • Major
    • Steve Smith

      Always so determined to tell God what to do.

    • Andymac3

      Pleasure and pain in one glorious night.

      • Todd20036

        Sigh. Yes. That works.

    • Boreal

      That is delicious.

    • David L. Caster

      Poor deluded fools. They knew they had lost that night. It was close-ish, but they really knew and couldn’t believe that their faith hadn’t allowed them to prevail. Their God told them “No, not happening for you, and stop telling me what to do!”

    • Clive Johnson

      Truly beautiful.

    • KnownDonorDad
  • alc2018
  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Conor Lamb may not be fLAMBoyant, but this little dino will break out into a LAMBada if he pulls off this much deserved victory. Voters are cLAMBering for a rep who’s lips are not firmly and permanently attached to Trump’s oleaginous keister, like the sycophantic Rick Suckone.
    Go LAMB!!

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
  • gaycuckhubby

    My prediction?
    Lamb by 4.5%

  • Karl Dubhe

    Let’s go with a crazy prediction this time.

    Lamb by 12.5%

    Puff, puff; pass.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • DoctorDJ

      Sam, you are my Handwich Gyro!

    • gaycuckhubby

      Yummy!!

    • Marc: The Social Gadfly

      That is a very artistic “cake”.

    • safari

      Is a gyro a sandwich?

      • clay

        only with it’s legs closed.

        • edrex

          otherwise it’s a slutty pita.

          • safari

            I had a friend who joked about opening a folded sandwich shop and adult novelty store.

          • edrex

            hummus kind of turns me on.

          • safari

            I like hummus. But when I was an undergraduate we were served angry hummus. It was some kind of “add water” contraption.

      • Jim Michaud

        And it’s actually pronounced “eero” (not “gyro” as in gyroscope).

    • safari

      And while I’m thinking about it, what’s everyone’s favorite tzatziki recipe?

      • clay

        goat-milk yoghurt
        shredded cucumber, drained
        lots of dill
        lots of mint
        lots of black pepper
        salt
        a bit of garlic

    • ohbear1957

      I love your meat. Full of flavor.

    • Prost Seattle

      Lamb going Greek? I’m in!

      • Jim Michaud

        Of course you are! Heh, heh.

    • another_steve

      I always say, “no onions, please.”

      And then, nevertheless, I retch the rest of the night.

  • Lazycrockett

    https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/973690041166942210

    I am assuming only girls can have the pink side and boys only the blue.

  • gaycuckhubby

    I’m assuming we get exit polls in 10 min? Hence the CNN countdown clock

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Vote 1st, Celebrate 2nd…not the other way around.

    • gaycuckhubby

      Evergreen comment ☝️☝️☝️

  • gaycuckhubby
    • safari

      I thought Nunberg was in “rehab” for “reasons”

      • gaycuckhubby

        Only lasted one day. He’s since testified in front of the grand jury and has done media interviews

        • Henry Auvil

          Get thee to a nunnery, Nunberg!

    • matrem

      But stone likes getting fucked in the ass….

      • gaycuckhubby

        Who doesn’t?

        • matrem

          Pence. It’s not gay if you top.

        • Karl Dubhe

          Not these days…

          🙁

      • gaycuckhubby

        I’m 95% top but have nothing but respect and love for bottoms

        • Ragnar Lothbrok

          95

          lol

          • gaycuckhubby

            Rounding down

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            LOL

  • Henry Auvil

    Go Conor!!!

  • JCF

    Cautiously optimistic…

  • safari

    More from Rachel’s reading of the minority report
    https://twitter.com/maddow/status/973692807037808640

    • JCF

      She’s gonna be “tennis-watching” between this, and the PA returns…

  • another_steve

    Is this the last post of the day?

    Can I post pics of my favorite Czech twinks now?

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Just send one ( or more ) over.

    • safari

      I have no idea the protocol for dealing with the nightly chatter thread during a live breaking thread.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        JMG SOP pg 37. lines 23-31

        • another_steve

          Reads, in part, as follows:

          “After a full day of depressing JMG posts – as a result of which 80 percent of readers have been sent to medical professionals for the treatment of clinical depression – it is acceptable to post pictures of (legal age, of course) boys who cry out to you for your kind mercies.”

          • safari
          • another_steve

            I must try that.

            Here – after almost 66 years of living – is my secret of success. My secret for loving life (aside from my love of, and for, my husband – my major reason for living):

            o one part Beefeater gin.

            o three parts quality dry vermouth.

            o three quality (not Walmart) olives on a stick.

            Lightly stirred, not shaken.

          • Ben in Oakland
          • another_steve

            Armie Hammer (“Oliver,” in “Call Me by Your Name”) is an incredibly beautiful and talented actor. To his misfortune, he was squeezed out in that film by the equally beautiful and equally talented Timothée Chalamet.

            Look for them both in future cinema.

          • Ben in Oakland

            Armie and Timothee do Dallas?

            Pizza Boy delivers in the rear, episode 398?

            Boys in the sand?

          • Ben in Oakland
          • another_steve

            I could form a religion centered around his cheek bones.

          • Ben in Oakland

            I’ve been watching father brown on Netflix. In just about every episode, there is one very cute boy or very handsome man. Worth it for mark Williams, who plays Brown, and that cute boy alone.

          • another_steve

            Pictures or it’s not true.

          • Ben in Oakland

            They have actual moving pictures on Netflix. And this was a real boy.

          • safari

            My grandmother is 87. She has a whiskey and soda every Saturday that demands three large green olives. Only her husband can make it properly.

          • another_steve

            Kiss your grandma for me.

            My kind of gal. 😉

      • houstonray

        And lo unto thee, therewith lies the thread of breakingeth….

        Oh wait.

  • Ninja0980
    • Todd20036

      And yet it’s the democrats who get the VA funded.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    No exit polls yet?

    • houstonray

      I don’t think they can release exit polling data before the polls close. It’s 8pm ET that they close.

      • Karl Dubhe

        That’s another 25 minutes, right? 🙂

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        thx !

      • clay

        And after 8:00, the exit polls’ margin of error is too great to be useful in this race.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Polls closing in minutes!
    Let’s go Lamb! Go, go go!!!

    • evanedwards

      An…ti…ci…pa…tion… It’s making me wait.

      • Jim Michaud

        Appropriate for this particular race. Carly Simon’s classic tune “Anticipation” was used for a Heinz ketchup commercial. And Heinz is based in Pittsburgh, PA just outside this district.

  • stimmerpdx

    Countdown to hopefully the BLUE WAVE!

  • Clive Johnson

    I’m about done with dinner. Can I hope for a delicious desert?

    • djcoastermark

      Hoping for the dessert too. Just finished dinner here also. Made a crab ravioli with topped shrimp and fish finished with a light lemon marjoram creme sauce and salad. t’would be a great dessert.

  • gaycuckhubby

    Suddenly I’m nervous.
    Too much hype and expectations for Lamb.
    This is still a red district

    • LesbianTippingHabits


      Yes, I remember, overconfidence.

      I think I’ll just look at the computer in the morning.

  • Sam_Handwich

    is there any one “big city” in the district?

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Wiki: The district is concentrated in the southern suburbs of Pittsburgh. It is predominantly white, although it contains a diverse range of suburbs. It is drawn in such a way that in some locations, neighborhoods and even streets are split between the 18th and the neighboring 12th and 14th districts.

  • gaycuckhubby

    “Too early to call” via CNN
    note that they did not say “too close”

  • Sam_Handwich

    new open thread!

    guess we can hash out PA18 there

  • houstonray

    New “open thread” up…

  • evanedwards

    Another page for live results: https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/pennsylvania/special-election/mar-13/

    Nothing yet, about 10 minutes to go before precincts start reporting.

  • Sporkfighter
  • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson
  • Major

    The fact that this race is still this close from a +20 Republican district is just amazing.

    • fuow

      Nail biter.

  • blackstar
    • Dramphooey

      “Why would anybody in their right mind like him?”

  • davewolfusa

    Does anyone know why the Westmoreland votes are still out?

    • fuow

      The rethugs will doctor them so Saccone wins.

    • Dramphooey

      They said they weren’t going to release by precinct like everywhere else. I don’t know why but most of us think it means shenanigans.

      • fuow

        Of course it does.

      • davewolfusa

        I wonder if they’re doing it to prevent the media from calling the race earlier. I just saw a tweet quoting someone in the administration as being happy with the race being neck and neck. Without knowing where the votes in Westmoreland are coming from, NYTimes and others can’t make projections.

  • ColdCountry

    49.8 (Lamb) – 49.6 NYT live

  • Oscarlating Wildely

    125 votes between the two; Lamb leads.

  • ColdCountry

    95 votes between them, and still no Westmoreland.

  • bkmn
  • ColdCountry

    I can’t take it, I’m off to bed.

  • bkmn

    I have a feeling this race will come down to the recount, and the recount in Westmoreland will not be kind to Saccoshit.

  • JCF

    Damn. Just home—thought this would be over by now…and for Lamb! Uff da, 847 votes???

    • bkmn

      I’m surprised it is going this late too. My guess is we are looking at recount, for a district that is going to go away

  • JCF

    Ouch, now REALLY nervous…

  • JCF

    The Blue County is in. Done. 847 is the margin. Please, Rethugs, tell me you didn’t send ’em in!

  • Major
    • bkmn

      Hope it is true, but I expect a recount

      • Oscarlating Wildely

        Maybe. Odd in that this district won’t exist in a few months. But the optics: the GOP will likely demand it (cough, Moore, cough)

  • bkmn

    Do we have anyone on the ground to check to see if Roger Stone is stuffing absentee ballots in the mailboxes?

  • Major
  • glimsong
  • Vista-Cruiser

    My understanding is that they still have to count absentee ballots from two Republican counties. So this thing could still go either way. Best to go to sleep and check for updates in the morning.

  • TheSeer

    Patriots vs. Traitors 1:0 (actually 2:0 or is it 3:0…)

  • HandsomeMrToad

    Saccone of shittone

  • MB