FLORIDA: Governor Gets Bill To Begin Arming Teachers

Tallahassee.com reports:

The Florida House sent the state’s first gun control measures in 22 years to Gov. Rick Scott on a 67-50 vote. The measure that also creates a school marshal program to arm classroom teachers comes three weeks after 17 were slain at a Parkland high school. Scott said he will read the bill and talk with family members of those killed before he decides whether to sign or veto the measure. “I’m going to take the time to read the bill,” said Scott. “I have been clear. I don’t believe we should be arming teachers.”

The bill includes a three-day waiting period for most gun purchases, raises the minimum age to 21 to purchase a gun and gives police more authority to confiscate weapons. The marshal program, which was renamed the “guardian program,” was one of three objections opponents used to try to kill the bill. Another was the House’s refusal to ban assault weapons. Others wanted to reject new restrictions on access to guns. They said they saw no need to punish law-abiding citizens for the act of a madman.

  • pch1013

    America is a sick, sick country.

    • David L. Caster

      America is broken, or at least in a sad state of repair, reflecting the dysfunction in the system induced by the distorting effect of money and superstition on public policy making.

      • Tomcat

        America is NOT broken, congress and the trump admin is broken but the majority of people are still good people.

        • Todd20036

          I thought the majority of Americans were criminals and rapists. Or am I thinking of something else…

          • Judas Peckerwood

            Only “those people”. And by “those people” I mean every person who supports Trump and the GOP.

        • pch1013

          But the un-good minority is firmly in charge, and may remain so forever. And it has declared war on the blue states, particularly California.

        • David L. Caster

          Ok, if you believe that America is not “broken”, will you agree that our system is in some degree of disrepair? Before you answer, consider this assessment:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Ig

        • Judas Peckerwood

          “the majority of people are still good people”

          Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence.

          • Silver_Witch

            THIS!!!!

        • Rich

          Good people feel a responsibility to do the right thing AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. They respect & care about each other, they aren’t racists & Nazis, they try to protect children. They vote.

          As a whole, we have not shown that we are a good people.

      • perversatile

        As an Empire we are definitely hurdling
        towards our “Best If Used By” date.

        • David L. Caster

          Hurtling even:

          It can never be too often repeated, that the time for fixing every essential right on a legal basis is while our rulers are honest, and ourselves united. From the conclusion of this [Revolutionary] war we shall be going down hill. It will not then be necessary to resort every moment to the people for support. They will be forgotten, therefore, and their rights disregarded. They will forget themselves, but in the sole faculty of making money, and will never think of uniting to effect a due respect for their rights. The shackles, therefore, which shall not be knocked off at the conclusion of this war, will remain on us long, will be made heavier and heavier, till our rights shall revive or expire in a convulsion.

          —Source

    • Todd20036

      Half of America. The blue states are relatively ok. The red starts are disposable.

      • Mark Cross

        And let me guess: you live in a blue state? If so, how convenient!
        Whether you do or not, for millions of Americans it’s not as simple as packing up and moving to a “blue” state. It’s not as simple as black and white, or as blue and red. You can’t just write off half the states. Someone’s got to fight in the red states, too.

        • Todd20036

          *shrug* As long as the red states remain red, they are of no help to this country.
          Republicans vote for Nazis. If democrats don’t vote, I’m supposed to feel sorry for them?
          And I live in a blue area. Not a blue state. I cannot vote for a congressman, but I vote for the president.

        • Rich

          “Someone’s got to fight in the red states, too.”

          Then FIGHT.

          EVERY progressive/iberal/reasonable/sane person in a red state should come out to vote, protest and fight. And they’re NOT. Some are, but I literally mean EACH AND EVERY ONE.

          You’re right, it’s easy living in a blue state to say this. It’s definitely a higher bar in red states; you got into a hole, you have to work that much harder to dig out.

  • bkmn

    The first child to be killed or injured because of this should file a nice lawsuit against the state and it will cost a lot of money.

    • David L. Caster

      Any firearm discharged in a school has a near unity chance of hitting someone with a bullet. I predict in a short time this is not going to be seen as a workable solution.

  • Lazycrockett
    • bkmn

      He’s desperate

      • David L. Caster

        Or at least stupid.

        • TampaDink

          That was a given.

    • Michael R

      ” Mueller is aware of both conversations. “

  • JoeMyGod

    “on a 67-50 vote”

    Florida House: 76 Republicans, 41 Democrats

    • Todd20036

      If I had a kid, I wouldn’t want him to go to a school with armed teachers.

      • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

        I just made that point to a guy. I told him that There’s no way I want kids to grow up with armed security stationed in every public building and thinking it’s normal and necessary.

        He then turned the conversation over to abortion and homelessness. A quick check of his profile showed him to be a 23 year old Deplorable, a Men’s Rights Activist, and a member of the group that thinks male circumcision is akin to attempted castration leading to murder…

        • AmeriCanadian

          So are you going to see him again? /s

          • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

            Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!

            You monster!

            I like you.

        • Judas Peckerwood

          “a Men’s Rights Activist” — a.k.a. a far-right misogynist

          • Todd20036

            Like White Pride people, they aren’t pro equality, more like pro white male privilege.

            And white male privilege is a horribly racist, misogynist thing.

            And I say that as a white male.

          • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

            Yep.

      • Ryan

        I remember the teachers I had growing up. None of them should be armed.

        • Todd20036

          A few of them should never have become teachers.

      • Mike Rasor

        The bill doesn’t technically allow most teachers to be armed. Amendments to the bill severely limited which school employees can be armed, and requires both the school district and the county sheriff’s department to agree to opt into the program.

        • Mike Rasor

          We’re literally talking about a bill that is opposed by a legislator who is an ex-NRA president and has controlled all gun legislation in the state for 20 years.

      • Silver_Witch

        Now instead of throwing erasers as childre they can just shoot them what’s fucked up country we live in.

      • JCF

        And (from your pic) you are white: if you’re child is black, the much-too-high threats to their life became THAT much greater.

        • Todd20036

          I know. Having a black child puts extra discrimination in the mix.
          Hell, you can murder a black kid who is unarmed, and not be penalized. Just ask Zimmerman

    • Nic Peterson

      Leaving Floriduh was one of the best decisions I ever made.

      • Judas Peckerwood

        Same, and I was in Key West.

      • Category is : Two sides to every story
        Moving to Florida was one of the best decisions I ever made

  • Talisman

    and now starts the countdown until the first teacher shoots up his classroom.

    • bkmn

      Haven’t we all seen at least one teacher have a meltdown?

      • Joe in PA

        Pssst: I spent 12 years in Catholic school taught by nuns. Ask me that again. Bwahahaha.

        (hint: you do not want to arm an angry nun)

      • ben-andy

        In jr high, Mr. Kelly the science teacher folded Mike Ingebretzen in half and plopped his butt into the metal waste paper can. That cured Mike of a significant number of classroom disruptive behaviors for a significant amount of time.

        Shooting him would have provided a more long lasting solution and been far more disruptive of science class, not to mention the entire school..

      • Tomcat

        And all of us have seen many alcoholic teachers.

    • David L. Caster

      The greater risks are that (a) one of these amateurs shoots an innocent bystander or worse, (b) is taken down by police that mistake the teacher for the actual outlaw shooter.

      This “arm the teachers” thing is not going to end well. No teacher’s union should allow this in their contracts.

    • Todd20036

      That’s the students’ fault. They didn’t pray enough

    • kelven

      My 6th grade teacher looked like Mrs. Wormwood from Calvin and Hobbs and was meaner than a toilet tweet from Hair Furor. She would have shot half the class.

  • MonochromeMouse

    Parents need to complain about and demand the firing of any teacher who chooses to carry a gun in school.

  • Lazycrockett

    and the NRA is licking its chops and counting its blood money.

    • pch1013

      Why do you think Betsy DeVos looked so happy during her visit to Parkland today?

      Betcha her brother’s company will somehow be involved in this “marshals” program.

  • another_steve

    Umm… Please let’s be real here, people. Reality-based.

    If you ask a parent, “Do you think your child’s teacher should be armed, in the event that a mass-murderer enters the classroom and starts firing…”

    The parent will say, “No”?

    • David L. Caster

      Almost certainly not, because they are short-sighted and generally uninformed about reality.

  • gaycuckhubby

    How do you think the courts will handle the new age limits?

    • Permitted. After all, you had to be 21 to buy a handgun in FL anyway. This just expands it to all guns.

      And it’s just purchase. Someone under 21 could receive a firearm as a gift.

      Really, it’s almost nothing other than stopping the 18yo from walking into a store and buying an assault rifle himself. Does not ‘infringe on the right to bear arms.’

      • gaycuckhubby

        Good to hear!

  • Boreal
    • Joe in PA

      Hey B…o/t…when do you head to NYC? How is the snow? We only got about 5 of the 16 promised. 🙁

      • Boreal

        Tomorrow. Only about 2 inches here so far and it snowed all day.

        • Joe in PA

          Safe travels.

          • Boreal

            Thanks. Looks worse downstate a bit but but mostly rain toward the metro area.

      • Lazycrockett

        Sounds like the old days of AOL chat

        • DaddyRay

          AOL inches

        • Joe in PA

          Not that there’s any thing wrong with 5. Just saying.

          • DaddyRay

            No what was wrong was saying you had 9 and only having 5. Just be honest

  • JT
    • Talisman

      The more frightened the kids are, the more anti-depressants we can give. It’s a win-win for the NRA and Big Pharma.

      • Tomcat

        And don’t forget the Oxycontin for the pain of injury that ends up hooking kids on prescription drugs.

        • Kruhn

          Oxycontin, oxycodone, morphine, methadone, etc.

  • HZ81

    Three whole days? What tyranny!

  • safari

    The joke I saw on arming teachers ended with the punchline: “Have you seen them work a VCR?”

  • gaycuckhubby

    Did you learn nothing from GA last week?

    Fuck no, we’re Florida!

    • righteous mob

      How about Alabama today? An “accidental” school shooting, ffs.

    • Judas Peckerwood

      Is that the official state motto?

  • safari

    There is a caste of people in this country that is thrilled to turn teachers into guards and schools into forced labor camps.

    • Talisman

      We could always end the public education system and send all the kids to parochial school. The church needs the funds and members.

      /s

      • AmeriCanadian

        No /s necessary. I truly believe that is the goal, especially that of Betsy Wetsy DeVos.

    • safari

      The latter comes from this weird unpaid internship program I saw getting some traction. The idea is that you work for free in the community as part of graduation requirements. For some reason this is considered good.

  • DaddyRay

    Can parents pressure schools not to allow armed teachers in their school

  • Blake J Butler

    The russian trolls have descended upon the Texas 7th district democratic primary between Lizzie Pannill Fletcher and Laura Moser.

  • Treant

    It took Prick Rot longer than 2 seconds to sign it? He must be running for some new office. 🙂

    • Boreal

      He’s running for the Senate against Nelson.

      • Blake J Butler

        He says he’ll come to a decision by the 9th whether or not he’ll run for senate against Nelson. Most likely yes.

  • Mike

    All of Florida—Disney, Miami, Disney, Ft. Lauderdale, Disney—should be on the no-fly list of everyone who doesn’t want their children shot. It’s the only power we have to influence them to stop encouraging gun massacres.

  • greenmanTN

    I can’t even come up with a science fiction scenario where this makes sense. If my freshman Algebra teacher had a gun I’d be posting from a Ouija board.

    • safari

      My sophomore math teacher broke her overhead with her fist and stormed out of the classroom.

      • Todd20036

        You WILL value that integral over a torus… OR DIE!!!!

      • greenmanTN

        I’m sure this will shock you but I could be a little… mouthy. I hadn’t learned to control it yet.

        She went after me for not having a pencil, and I tried to explain I thought I had one, but couldn’t find it.

        “You make it sound like it’s MY fault you don’t have a pencil!”

        Me, too stupid to keep my mouth shut: “Well you WERE the only one in the room when it went missing.”

        Oh. Holy. Fuck. That’s all it took, one smartass comment and we were at war for the entire year. I couldn’t back down, didn’t know how to. We hated each other and it wasn’t subtle. She would hand me a test and and I’d write my name on it and hand it back to her. I had to be transferred to another class.

        I was a bullied kid but stubborn and mad as hell and my coping mechanisms weren’t always in my best interest.

        • perversatile
        • I was a very shy and introverted child (and adult too) never spoke up, always tried to keep a low profile. One day in elementary school during lunch the kids were particularly boisterous, one of the teachers in charge that day was Mrs. Strang, a notorious disciplinarian. In an attempt to regain order she used a wooden spoon, loudly smacking it against a table. For some unfathomable reason I decided to say “Come in!” at the exact moment to entire room fell silent. She was furious! I do believe I literally sank into the ground ;-))
          and no way in hell was I going to fess up when she hollered “WHO SAID THAT?”

          • greenmanTN

            I’m a weird mix of very shy and very bold. There’s an old joke about two Englishmen who were stranded on a desert island for 20 years but never spoke because they had never been introduced. That’s me, though I’ve gotten better about it.

            But don’t corner me or you might not like the result. I will fight back and not only in overt ways.

          • You sound like a fellow extroverted introvert – that sounds like an oxymoron, but whatever!

      • AaronD12

        We continually tormented our band teacher in middle school. She would get so mad she would break her baton(s), throw music, and storm off and sit in her office for the rest of the class. I would HATE to see her armed.

  • gaycuckhubby
    • safari

      When will he end up working with Dr. Stabby?

    • Todd20036

      Only 10 days huh? He’ll do it again. Lets see if he’s fired

  • Boreal
  • There will be suicides.

    There will be students getting their hands on their teacher’s guns.

    There will be hostage situations.

    There will be deaths.

    • safari

      We should probably start tracking teacher suicides now.

    • Natty Enquirer

      And most importantly, there will be gun sales.

      • safari

        They are down for the moment.

    • Todd20036

      The closest I ever got to getting my hand on my teacher’s gun was my high school gym teacher when I was pre-gay. I never did, but I wish I had the opportunity.

    • David L. Caster

      Generalizing: there will be blood.

  • hdtex
  • Ninja0980

    Last week we had a teacher with a history of problems fire a gun in a class room.
    We had another exposed as a secret white nationalist.
    They can claim they are doing all the background checks they want but sooner or later, one of the good guys/gals they’ve armed with a gun is going to become a bad guy/gal.
    And when that happens, I hope Scott and others get sued every way to Sunday.

    • whollyfool

      Someone was pointing out that there was a shooting *on a military base*. Where presumably they have guns. 😛

  • DaddyRay

    I am so glad I don’t have kids and especially in Florida.
    I feel for the teachers who don’t want to work with gun toting co-workers

  • Tread

    Tone deaf motherfuckers. I truly hate these people. I hope these students see how much they’re truly overlooked.

    • edrex

      not tone deaf. INDIFFERENT.

      • Lazycrockett

        Bought.

      • Todd20036

        Both work

      • canoebum

        Worse than indifferent, malignant.

  • Hank

    Skeletor: More Guns!!! More Guns!!! More Guns!!!

    • MBear

      And the NRA goes Ka-CHING!

  • I would not want any child of mine in a classroom with a teacher who wants to be armed.

    • Reality.Bites

      I wouldn’t want any child of mine in a classroom with any teacher foolish enough to want to teach my kids.

      (I don’t have any children, but I have a sneaking suspicion)

  • Westcoast88

    If there was a shooting in a salon, would there be a bill to arm hairdressers?

  • Tomcat

    He might allow it to pass in order to get any gun control from the Florida congress.

  • DaddyRay

    Haven’t they ever heard of suicide by cop – now we can add suicide by teacher

    • whollyfool

      Yeah, such a bad idea for soo many reasons. 🙁

    • whollyfool

      By the way, how did your presentation to the tough crowd go?

  • AmeriCanadian

    This will NOT end well. I count my lucky stars I don’t have children, let alone in school.

    • whollyfool

      Thinking back to my teachers, there were plenty of them I would not have wanted to see with a gun. And the rest of them wouldn’t have wanted one or known what to do with it if they had one.

  • For anyone who knows, can he line-item veto? Because it would be great to raise the minimum age, create 3 day waiting period, and strength the ability for police to confiscate weapons, you know without arming teachers.

  • worstcultever

    What’s not for the puke monsters to love: gun carnage without end, also bonus destruction of public schools.

  • safari

    O/T: I can’t keep up. Is this right?
    https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/971541237479157765

    • Max_1

      Keep reminding yourselves…
      …THIS IS ONLY WEDNESDAY!

      • Lazycrockett

        This is going to be replaced with It’s only 10 am.

    • -M-

      6.1 Donnie bitched at McGahn for not doing 5.
      6.2 McGahn reminded him that it was all true.

  • JWC

    Elephant …what elephant..I don’t see any elephants in the room

  • BeaverTales

    It’s the NRA’s wet dream: Arm the mall cops, arm the preachers, arm the concession workers at movie theaters, the ushers at concerts and arm the doctors and nurses at hospitals, pretty soon everyone will be packing.

  • AmeriCanadian

    Young gay boy raises hand in math class: “Mr. Samuels, is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy?”

  • DaddyRay

    School shooting cause by teacher not properly securing their gun in 5, 4, 3 ….

    • Max_1

      We’ll first witness a few incidents where a teacher attempts to exact discipline by brandishing their gun…

      • Devon Rodriguez

        GOSPEL TRUTH….

        • AaronD12

          Oxymoron.

  • For the love of all that all that’s holy. Why??

  • Ninja0980

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Alabama_in_Huntsville_shooting
    This shooting happened when the professor in question found out she was going to be denied tenure.
    Whom among the folks being armed in Florida is going to be the next Amy Bishop?

    • Lazycrockett

      The shooting happened when The married principal tried to end his affair with the female teacher.

  • shellback

    I’ve just about had it for today.

    • Ross

      I’ve just about had it since 11/8/16.

  • Blake J Butler
    • Treant
      • Gretchen

        OT: Treant, I’m having a house plant emergency. In just over a week I have drowned the aloe plant my sister gave me. She managed to keep it alive and healthy in a grocery bag on her window sill for months, and I put it in a pot and promptly murdered it. Do you have any advice?

        • Treant

          It sounds like transplant/transport shock. You can repot it in new (just slightly damp) 2 parts cactus mix and 1 part potting soil and see if it recovers.

          If it was planted in potting soil, that’s a problem. Aloe are dry-area succulents and do strongly demand well-drained soils.

          Worst-case. read up on dividing an aloe vera and try again with the cutting.

          • Gretchen

            Thank you. I did use potting soil and likely far too much water. I will try again with a cactus soil and a pot with better drainage.

    • JCF

      Every bear needs a hobby.

  • zhera

    How Machiavellian of them. Restrict a little bit here, raise the age a little bit there, arm some teachers over there…

  • billbear1961

    Watch the evil moron sign it.

    • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

      “Hey, I’m just acting on the will of the people’s elected representatives. Anyone seen my balls? I lost them again.”

  • billbear1961

    BAN ASSAULT WEAPONS.

  • Ross

    THIS

    IS

    APPALLING.

    JUST

    FUCKING

    APPALLING

  • Ninja0980

    Put it bluntly, this is going to do nothing to deter most folks who want to do a mass shooting since most of them don’t care if they live or die.

    • billbear1961

      An article on Electoral-Vote made it clear a handgun is nothing against an assault weapon. It’s one of the reasons the school guard and the cops wouldn’t go inside the school during the shooting. You’d have to arm people with machine guns, which is just INSANE.

  • hdtex

    We just don’t have enough guns! Another school shooting today….Didn’t even register a blip.http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2018/03/possible_accidental_shooting_a.html

  • Lazycrockett

    Rachel isn’t working tonight. We get Ari.

    • AmeriCanadian

      I’ve always wondered if the host filling in for Rachel gets the benefit of her staff working tirelessly on the day’s stories. It never feels quite the same without Rachel which makes me suspect that she is the force majeure of everything she does.

      • Lazycrockett

        I would assume that the producers and staff of the show work every night whether Rachel is hosting or not. I’d say Rachel has more of a hands on approach than other guest host, since its her show.

    • SoCalGal20

      She might show up after all. WaPo just broke that Mueller has evidence that Seychelles meeting was to set up a back channel to the Kremlin!!!! (More than likely she’ll just call in)

  • SoCalGal20

    RED ALERT!!! It’s Mueller Time! He has evidence that Seychelles meeting was to set up a back channel to Kremlin.

    https://twitter.com/peterfinnwp/status/971544883587698688?s=21

    • Lazycrockett

      I’d love to see this Prince guy go down.

      • SoCalGal20

        Prince runs Blackwater and is Betsy DeVos’ brother. 🙂

        • Lazycrockett

          yep.

        • Lazycrockett

          Who just happens to travel half way around the world to accidentally meet up with Nader.

    • Lazycrockett
    • Ninja0980

      Guy is at the top of the list of people I want to see in jail.

    • Aye, they were reporting on this last night. What seemed merely “probable” before is approaching the legal definition of reasonable standard of proof that’s what they were doing.

      I am also convinced now that Donald has been and continues to do whatever Putin tells him to do.

      • billbear1961

        Like not making Romney SoS.

        • JCF

          Though that’s probably the LEAST of the things Putin demanded!

    • AmeriCanadian

      So at what point does Mueller get “disappeared”?

  • Lazycrockett
    • billbear1961

      So, people will be punished for DARING to protest.

      Fascist DISGRACE of a country!

    • SoCalGal20

      This is what they’ve been doing. I hope they’re being sued for this particular tactic. Fucking Gestapo.

    • safari

      ICE goes after the peaceful because they don’t fight violently.

      • SoCalGal20

        They go after the activists as a warning to others. This is a tactic to stop protests.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    FloriDUH!!

  • Lazycrockett
    • BobSF_94117

      They apparently unplugged her laptop.

    • DaddyRay
    • SoCalGal20

      So her emails were stored personally on her computer and not on some mail server somewhere where they could be retrieved? Uh huh…

      • DaddyRay

        Trump to ask Russia to find Hope’s missing emails

        • SoCalGal20

          LOL

      • Wisterley

        You mean like a…. (dum-di-dum-dum) private server??????

    • BJORN RAGNVALDR

      “Hicks, who portrayed herself as not savvy in matters of technology…”
      Only the best Directors of Communication with this guy.

  • safari

    I’m hoping Erik Prince goes to jail forever.

    • SoCalGal20

      That would be excellent.

    • billbear1961
      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        As always, you know just the right interlude to offer.

        • billbear1961

          Hello, J-M!

      • Sam_Handwich

        i hate b flat

        • billbear1961

          Mr. Handwich!

          lol

          • Sam_Handwich

            it’s an organist thing. we like lower keys, starting at C

          • billbear1961

            🙂

            I figured it had something to do with playing the piece.

        • billbear1961

          I get such a kick out of the first movement.

          I found a couple other renditions, but they play it too fast; and something is lost.

          • Sam_Handwich

            i’m listening. this is unusually legato

          • billbear1961

            THIS piece, by another Benda, a brother, I think, has been a source of escape for the past 24 hours . . .

            https://youtu.be/tSbOoOt_C9s?t=6m31s

          • coram nobis

            Benda has been a recent discovery for me. Fine works.

          • billbear1961

            And this piece, the first movement, just sweeps me off my feet . . .

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHicGx0iI0Q

        • safari

          I wish I had learned music theory.

          • Sam_Handwich

            b flat is just a boring key. hard to explain.

            from my standpoint as an organist, the biggest pipes to end on start at C. B flat is 10 up from that.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Gov. Scott: “we want teachers to be armed”

    Students: “we want sensible gun regulations”

    NRA: “we want to profit off the blood of dead children”

    Dana Loesch: “I’m a cupid stunt who gets passed around at NRAtv and yell a lot because I’m just fuck nuts crazy”

    People of the Planet Earth: “WOW, The Hunger Games/Battle Royale?? For real??? Only in America”

    • AmeriCanadian

      I’m beginning to think that the writer of The Purge is a prognosticator. We’re already living through Idiocracy.

  • boobert

    This is a disgrace ! The same thing is happening in my small NJ township. We have republicans in all three committee member spots. I am convinced the nra and RNC is dictating all republicans push this issue.

    • Sam_Handwich

      you can bet the NRA is pushing this shit. they’re lobbyists for gun manufactures. that’s all.

  • Ninja0980

    https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/971428516645482496?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
    How nice of him to talk about the only two families (that I can gather) that are Republicans and are the only ones who want to arm teachers.
    The rest of them can eff right off.

  • tbj5

    Fucking pieces of shit.

    NRA and their bought politicians are literally saying kids’ lives are worth the oodles of cash they’ll make from outfitting all these students.

  • Lazycrockett

    new thread.

  • safari

    (New thread)

  • coram nobis

    But of course! What better solution for needless gun deaths than to put more firearms out there! Why don’t we arm grammar-school kids while we’re at it?

    • Lars Littlefield

      That’s a pistol of an idea!

    • MoonlightUnkindledOne

      Instead of pizza day for the kiddies, let’s have AR-15 Day. I mean, isn’t it more important for the kids to be able to know how to use mass murder weapons than eating stuff like pizza? /s

  • coram nobis
  • MassageBear
    • KnownDonorDad

      Bomb bots in every school!!!

  • coram nobis
  • Rocco

    Jaysus.

  • Ann Kah

    Armed teachers? That would assure that if anybody came to school to do harm, he’d shoot the teacher first. I suspect that not many teachers are going to be eager to sign up for that duty.

  • MoonlightUnkindledOne

    Essentially, they voted to get more people killed in mass shootings. I mean, I can’t really envision how having MORE armed people is going to make people safer. If anything, I’d say probably the opposite. But then again, this was just a signal to the people who love their toy (guns) more than people and want to play hero (well, envision themselves playing hero. Can’t really see any of them actually being heroes like they claim they would.).

  • Pip

    If the guns are to be Fed or State funded, there will be teachers with the license but no actually bullets for the guns due to lack of funding. I mean I know of schools who aren’t even funds for books, and those are a basic need for how a school works.

  • anne marie in philly

    suppose a teacher does not want to be armed? what then?

  • OldBaldGuy

    I would not want to work in a school knowing any of my colleagues were armed. It wouldn’t matter how well I knew or trusted them, it would no longer feel safe.

  • Since 1982 only 2 mass shooters have been under 21. Retailers & lawmakers are touting that as a solution when really it’s designed to not have much impact at all.

  • Makoto

    “They said they saw no need to punish law-abiding citizens for the act of a madman.”
    That’s an excellent argument against rules about murder, stoplights, drunk driving, building safety, …

  • Very shrewd move by the gun nuts. If the next massacre takes place in a school where the teachers had the OPTION to carry guns but chose NOT to, guess who will be blamed!

  • lymis

    I assume that the law gives no employment protections to a teacher who does not want to be armed.

    I think the whole thing is a really insanely bad idea, but especially in Florida, I could see situations where someone makes being armed a condition for employment. If someone is a security guard, then sure. But I can see some of these idiots deciding that every football coach needs a gun.

  • rextrek

    Make America a Laughing Stock is more like it ……can u imagine the conversations Europeans are having about America? This country is Pathetic…and a Good 3rd of our Nation has Lost it’s Marbles & Moral Core….

  • Etranger

    My school teacher friends pay for their attendance at trainings, buy materials to do their teaching, and receive paper awards (never accompanied by money) for excellence in teaching or whatnot. But somehow states will now magically find money to pay to arm teachers. Interesting. My tax dollars better not be going to such frivolous idolatry of the gun. If they are going to arm teachers and it will cost the state to do so, they better impose an exorbitant tax on guns. You know, like they do on marijuana, cigarettes and booze. If they don’t do that, they are typical idiotic conservatives who don’t understand fiscal responsibility.

  • TK

    “I’m going to take the time to read the bill”. Ummm duh… that would be a good start, Gov Skeltor. So let’s see – arming teachers, provide them with special training, probably thorough background and mental health checks, etc. But the average Floridian can go buy assault weapons with pretty much none of those requirements or safeguards. And I’m sure they won’t be arming teachers with AR-15s. The whole scenario is ludicrous and dangerous. They won’t pay teachers nearly enough to just teach but now they’ll find the money to make them “guardians”. It’s so fucked up.

    • Gianni

      “I’m going to take the time to read the bill”. That makes it sound like something out of the ordinary for him. These politicians throw around so many words to try to sound intelligent little realizing that all that excess bloviating doesn’t sound intelligent at all.

  • Gianni

    Armed with single-shot pistols or M-16’s? Wouldn’t be wise to have the ‘teachers’ outgunned would it? In between SWAT practice and actual shoot-em-ups, perhaps they can actually do what they were hired to do?