GOP Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch: Obamacare Supporters Are The “Stupidest Dumbass People” I’ve Ever Met [VIDEO]

The Hill reports:

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) on Thursday called ObamaCare supporters “the stupidest, dumbass people” he’s ever met. Orrin made the comments during a speech at the American Enterprise Institute about the GOP tax overhaul, which repealed the ObamaCare individual mandate.

“[We] finally did away with the individual mandate tax that was established under that wonderful bill called ObamaCare,” Hatch said during his remarks. “Now, if you didn’t catch on, I was being very sarcastic. That was the stupidest, dumbass bill that I’ve ever seen.”

“Some of you may have loved it,” he continued. “If you do, you are one of the stupidest, dumbass people I’ve ever met. And there are a lot of them up there on Capitol Hill from time to time.”

  • pch1013

    The GOP is a sick, depraved death cult that thinks it can govern by trolling.

    • perversatile
      • Robincho

        You gotta love the UK. They don’t RUN for an election. They STAND for it…

    • not a user 220000

      Well, we’ve already seen it can’t govern by governing

      • safari

        Hey. Rick Snyder only poisoned one entire city.

        • So far, and not like he’s the only one trying.

        • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

          Are you following what’s going on in Rockford?

          It’s nearly a repeat, except this time Wolverine World Wide is the one poisoning a lot of northern Kent County after dumping PFAS-laden toxic sludge all over, despite directions from county officials to restrict waste disposal to certain sites — since 1965! Wolverine had been dumping tainted leather scraps and factory waste into the Rogue River, ditches, ponds, and paying local farmers to spread the sludge onto their fields as fertilizer. THEY KNEW THAT WHAT THEY WERE DOING WAS UNETHICAL AND WRONG.

          The state DEQ is not cooperating with Plainfield Township officials in providing information on their progress in negotiating a resolution with Wolverine; in fact, a lawyer for Wolverine sent a letter to township officials claiming that their call for Wolverine to pick up part of the tab for extending the safe township water system into areas with contaminated groundwater was “politically motivated.” The state had not denounced that remark. The township has now joined the lawsuit against Wolverine for damages.

          What’s not-so-shocking about what Wolverines done is they’ve turned a blind eye to the affluent, mostly-white suburb where its workers and managers have lived. Race isn’t a factor here. Neither is income level (they allowed a developer to purchase acres of their former waste disposal sites without informing them of what’s beneath the expensive homes and gold course). Wolverine just doesn’t give a shit.

          TAKEAWAY: DO NOT purchase Merrell, Sperry, Wolverine, Brooks, Bates, Keds, or CAT footwear or clothing until after Wolverine resolves this situation. There are a lot of kids involved in this growing catastrophe, also.

          • killreligion

            Yuck I wouldn’t buy any of those. I don’t think they make alligator loafers.

            Further to my point humans are horrible animals. People made these decisions. Only a small portions of humans are decent and capable.

    • safari

      Death. Cult.

      It all comes back to that.

      • njguy54

        Death cult. But for poor people only.

    • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

      You forgot GREED. It’s a GREED and death cult

    • kaydenpat

      Sadly too many Americans agree with them.

  • bkmn

    Dear Utah, your crazy uncle escaped again. Please clean up this mess.

    • not a user 220000

      Disambiguation:

      your crazy uncle that you elected to the U.S. Senate

      • Lars Littlefield

        Which one. For there are two.

        • not a user 220000

          Good point!

    • FAEN

      Which one?

      • Lars Littlefield

        For verily, they are many.

  • KnownDonorDad

    I’ll just leave this here.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a3eJC3qAFU

    • not a user 220000

      My goodness, those Mormons are heretics!

      • safari

        Like all sects it’s okay when god tells the leaders it is.

        • Tomcat

          I am still waiting to become comfortably mentally disturbed so I too can be close to god and start my own religion so I can grift too.

    • perversatile
    • Lars Littlefield

      Well fuck me runnin’! This “banned” cartoon used to play on a loop at Temple Square in the LDS Tourist Center. Highly recommended stop if you were needing a place to hide on a hot sunny day when the acid was peaking and you didn’t want to attract too much attention.

    • Todd20036

      This is neither more nor less ridiculous than most other religious stories.

      • Joseph Miceli

        I think Scientology has them beat. I especially like when the amnesiac alien spirits are trapped in the volcanos until DC-10’s from outer space blow them up with nukular weapons to transform them into thetans. Whew. Try saying THAT all in one breath!

  • Mind you, this is coming from a man who believes he’s going to get his own planet to rule in the afterlife.

    • Reality.Bites

      Never understood why that’s supposed to be even remotely desirable. Sounds devastatingly lonely.

      • FAEN

        A planet where you can’t own an espresso machine is FUCKED UP!

        • not a user 220000

          And just try to find a good barrista in the almost-vacuum of deep space!

        • Lars Littlefield

          RAMEN!!!!

          • FAEN

            Which I’m currently enjoying for dinner 😉

        • Chris Baker

          … and you are stuck with your own family for all eternity. That’s the deal breaker for me.

      • RaygunsGoZap

        Well, women don’t get planets. So they all have to live somewhere.

      • Like a frog your supposed to spawn your spirit tadpoles all over it till they grow into people somehow.

        • Mark

          Is that anything like every sperm is sacred???

      • MT YVR

        These days more and more people are understanding why exactly I’ve always wanted something like that. “Other people are hell”. And we’ve got a shittonne of stupid out there that makes me just want to wipe a continent clean of human life. A planet is a bit much… I only need … say… Europe?

        • killreligion

          As long as you share and the restaurants stay

    • Tomcat

      He better keep it light years away from mine or we are going to have some real problems.

      • MT YVR

        “MOOOOOM! He’s got his post-industrial complex on my side of the solar system again!”

        “DO NOT!”

        “MOOOOOOM!”

    • Stev84

      Apparently, the church has changed its mind once again, and they don’t teach that anymore.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Does that planet include virgins?

    • Joseph Miceli

      Don’t forget the harem of sister-wives!

    • Del Sam

      Can we please go ahead and send him to said planet, like right NOW?

  • not a user 220000

    Who are the smartest dumbass people you’ve met, Sen Hatch (R-UT)?

  • Joe in PA

    Locker room talk Orin? Hmmm?

  • justmeeeee

    OMFG! OMFG! OMFG! Are there no mirrors in the Hatch household?

    • Canadian Observer

      Assuming, of course, he actually casts a reflection.

  • JCF

    Dementia Says Wut?

    • safari

      I just want to say “Dementia Slut” because.

      • JCF

        That sometimes happens! [sexcapades in the memory care home]

      • Lars Littlefield

        Isn’t that a new show on Logo?

        • not a user 220000

          It can be….

      • William

        One of my goals in life.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    So, the Affordable Care Act, a plan created by the ultra-RightWing Heritage Foundation and supported by all Republicans when initially introduced is now only supported by stupid dumbasses.

    Here’s a mirror Mr. Hatch.

    • Mrs. Councillor Nugent

      And wasn’t it based on Mittens mandate for Massachusetts?

      • Joe in PA

        I was just going to post that. But the problem you see: wrong color of the person promoting it.

        • 🐾vorpal🐾

          Black and blue versus white and red.

          • Kissmagrits

            Color is very important. There’s the GOP no longer capable of blushing as they bend us over. Then there’s the color green on those stacks of paper in the thick envelopes that gets passed under a conference table. And the intricate colored exclusion zones on the latest gerrymandering map.

          • JackFknTwist

            In other words Orin Hatch is a racist.

            And he is one of the many failed humans who just can’t go when the time is right . He hangs on, until, like a fish, he begins to smell.

      • jerry

        Originally written by Heritage in 1993, as a counter proposal to the Clinton’s health care bill. It was then adapted for use in MA.

      • Gerry Fisher

        It worked quite well in Massachusetts. But, then again, you had a legislature (dominated by Democrats) who backed the plan instead of trying to undermine it. Also, everyone dedicated themselves to tuning up the program in the initial few years, fixing “start up” mistakes.

    • Robincho

      GodDAYUM it you GO gurl unh-hunh…

  • safari

    You’re right. The democrats should have nationalized healthcare when they had the chance.

  • Lazycrockett

    Coming from the guy who has free healthcare.

    • FAEN

      Another republican hypocrite. Shocking.

    • kelven

      Exactly. If Obamacare is so bad, why did congress vote to eliminate it for everyone but themselves? Hatch, just another Hypocritical GOP Asshole.

    • leo77

      FREE GOVERNMENT PROVIDED HEALTHCARE!

      • Frostbite

        Isn’t that like some government handout?

    • Uncle Mark

      I refuse to be insulted by an old coot, who believes in the power of magic underwear.

    • Doug J.

      It’s a good thing ol’ Orrin has free healthcare because he’s gonna need a lot of it. The media won’t report on it, apparently, (and his staff is covering it up, no doubt) but he’s definitely been showing signs of dementia during recent committee hearings. I suspect we won’t hear much from him once he retires. His old pal Ted Kennedy would be ashamed of the way Hatch has sucked up to Trump.

  • rcdcr

    Who needs health insurance when you’re wearing magical underpants and are destined to be the ruler of your own planet one day?

    Silly mortals.

    • safari

      Sim City: Eternity

      • Treant

        Disaster:Godzilla

      • William

        A friend of mine used to play the Sims. She had to stop, the housewife kept catching fire and dying. It was too depressing.

        • safari

          I remember someone playing it when I was an undergraduate. She kept having to kill off her male household leader’s pool boy because he kept having affairs. The results were, unfortunate. (Pool Ladder <– delete)

        • kareemachan

          I remember when the husband would play with the dollhouse. He stayed around forever.

        • MonochromeMouse

          Yeah, for some reason Sims can’t cook without a 50% chance of setting the house on fire.

        • Moebym of the Returners

          One of my Sims died of old age and scared his young wife to death while she was holding their newly-born child.

  • SoCalGal20

    Can Orrin Hatch just drop dead already?

    Also, I thought Mormons were more polite.

  • JCF

    Now, I may think that ObamaCare has saved my life.

    But I haven’t studied ObamaCare w/ Orrin’s Special Invisible Glasses!

    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2018-01/16/23/asset/buzzfeed-prod-web-14/anigif_sub-buzz-4924-1516163722-5.gif

    • not a user 220000

      Another Three-Percocet lunch for the Orrin

      • Think we’ve found one of the people the congressional pharmacy supplies dementia drugs to.

      • MT YVR

        Gods I miss those….

        Hmm, whatnow?

    • Lars Littlefield

      He has his own seer stone as well as a Urim and Thummim. See: https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bd/urim-and-thummim if you dare. Bwa ha ha ha ha!

      • Cattleya1

        You need those special glasses to read New Egyptian.

        • Stogiebear

          It’s even worse than that : Reformed Egyptian.

      • MonochromeMouse

        Mormons are, hands down, the dumbest most gullible people on the face of the earth.

        • MT YVR

          But my GODS when you get the magic undies off em and they fall off the church wagon? Hold on and hope you survive the bacchanal that follows. (whispers reverently) It’s like a tornado of sins…

          • Scott Carpenter

            Jesus Jammies are the best hard-on repellent I’ve ever seen. One glimpse and I’m flaccid for a week.

      • PBGVNinja

        I’m sure when Orrin dies he will be planted facing East so he can rise to face Jeebus coming towards Utah for the Resurrection. Just like every other Mormon in UT LDS cemeteries. Trouble is, he doesn’t realize that when he stands up he will go vertically right down to Hell with the rest of them on Judgement Day. “And So it Came to Pass”

    • Cuberly Deux

      PERFECT post, JCF for the win!

      • JCF

        {blush}

    • pj

      no she didnt…..

    • kareemachan

      Well, now we know where all those opioids go….

    • Nic Peterson

      Sometimes the magic stones are called Orin and Thumim.

  • Tomcat

    Yeah, the really smart ones are the ones that want their health care destroyed so they can die in peace.

  • me myself and I

    The “stupidest dumbass people” are log cabin Republicans, but there are other condenders: all the people who believe in Trump, all the people who believe in magical sky lords.

    • pch1013

      And working-class Republicans.
      And female Republicans.
      And black Republicans.

      • Todd20036

        and any republican who needs EBT, SSDI, ACA, federal housing, or a host of other government programs the Nazis want to cut

  • Lazycrockett

    Got away from his Aides again.

    • not a user 220000

      Let’s get Jared right on that

  • JT

    Someone who believes the bullshit produced by scam artist Joseph Smith calling other people dumb asses? LOL.

    Go stick some golden plates up your ass.

  • Dunkerblinker

    someone check his diaper. Shit may have built up and entered his urethra causing a UTI to make him say such stupid shit.

  • Tom G

    And he loves Trump…’nough said

  • Treant

    Consider the source.

    If the opening statement of an argument is, “You are the stupidest dumbass person,” then they have absolutely no argument. Like so many we see around here who open an answer that way when you’ve melted their snowflake, they’re not worth your time.

    You laugh, act insulted, call them a fuckwad, block them, and take a life lesson that you can then pass on to others.

    • Tomcat

      How do we block Orin Hatch or Trump?

      • Treant

        Ignore them. Deflate the airspace. Don’t click on stories where they’re trolling. And you sure as hell block all ads on those pages if you feel you must read them.

        • Tomcat

          But I already only read JMG and that is where I am finding all these characters.

      • Friday’s_cat

        Walk into a business, bar, restaurant or whatever if Fox News is on the TV turn around and walk out. Go into any place that has AM Hate on the Radio do the same.

        • Tomcat

          Hell, in Tennessee even the VA has Fox on the tvs.

        • not a user 220000

          FOR INTERMEDIATE LEVEL ONLY
          ==== =========== ===== ====
          Also, while you’re walking out, yell, “Change the goddamn channel–no one wants to see that!”

  • Tomcat

    Trump for Prison President in 2020!

  • Friday’s_cat

    Now that he is retiring the veneer of civility comes off exposing the wormeaten core of the typical republican.

    • ‘Til Tuesday

      Oh, he’s always had an acid tongue. He’s said some pretty nasty, hateful things over the years. Most of the time he’s relatively reasonable, but every now and then he goes off – almost like he’s got political tourettes or something.

  • Cuberly Deux
  • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

    Okay, cancer. I hope Orange licker Orrin gets inoperable pancreatic cancer. Oops, did I type that out loud?

    • Treant

      (tugs sleeve) He gets what Obamacare should have been; gold-plated Cheney-Care. They’ll pay to keep him alive no matter what.

    • Canadian Observer

      Bone cancer localized in the spine is much more painful.

      • not a user 220000

        Remind me not to piss you queans off. You are mean. as. fuck.

        • Canadian Observer

          Yes.

        • BJORN RAGNVALDR

          I see you’ve met my friends.
          😎

      • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

        Sold!

    • Cattleya1

      No – too quick! He should only get enormous hemorrhoids that never retract. Or if you must, a giant hernia. It is a Jewish thing when we curse someone, we want them to suffer at length – and to inconvenience them.

      • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

        Oy! If anyone knows about suffering it’s the Jews. 😄

        • Cattleya1

          We’ve done so much of it down through the ages, we’ve raised it to an art form.

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            I blame the mutha.

          • Cattleya1

            Of course it is the Mother… When was the last time you heard someone talk about a ‘Jewish Father’? My 87 year old mother can yank her children’ chains in less than 3 minutes on the phone. She is a master.

  • Stev84

    Says a Mormon

  • Tor

    What about his good buddy Mittens, who was the first to institute it in Massachusetts?

  • Bobo

    Help me here….this mf’ing MORMON, who believes that his entire family since the beginning of time is all going to get together on Planet Xenon after death, thinks someone ELSE is a dumbass?

    • Lars Littlefield

      Ironic, ain’t it?

  • The stupidest dumbass people I remember reading comments from here were left wing conspiracy theorists who were INSISTING last year that because nutjob Louise Mensch wrote that near-simultaneously impeachments against Trump Pence, and Ryan were just around the corner, the moderate saviour of the universe, Orrin Hatch, as President Pro Tempore of the Senate would soon be President! And all our lives would be saved! Anyone else remember these here?

    • not a user 220000

      Wow! That is *dumb* 😄

      • Yeah and I was dumb enough to keep on writing about the 25th amendment allowing Presidents to appoint new VP’s with majority approval in both houses (like Ford and Rockefeller) and being ignored. I should not have even bothered. You cannot argue with conspiracy theorists.

    • Friday’s_cat

      TG this place isn’t overrun like media matters.

  • Jefe5084

    Send him off to Kolob. Bet it’s not there when he gets there. Where ever “there” is.

  • netxtown

    I take it that he’s saying the elimination of the individual mandate was stupid….
    Insurance is one of those things in life you hate paying for – until you need it.

    • safari

      And we all will, which is the stupid part of all of this.

    • DreadPikathulhu

      Hatch is covered under his golden federal employee plan until death.

  • Robert Little

    My cousin got life-saving cancer treatment under the ACA — treatment she would’ve otherwise been denied due to pre-existing health conditions. She is quite literally alive because of Obamacare. So go rot in hell, you disgusting old man.

    • kareemachan

      Not that this needs to be pointed out to you, but orrin doesn’t give a rodent’s derriere about your cousin. Or my kid. Or my neighbor’s elderly mother.

      • Robert Little

        Well, of course not. He’s a Republican.

  • Friday

    No, what’s really dumbass is you Republicans blocking the public option on the basis it would be available cheaper, then screaming blue murder that all you left *in* Obamacare was the invividual mandate, ….then blocked Medicaid expansion to cover the gaps that make it such a big problem.

    Also, you probably shouldn’t try all the coarse language you used to pretend you were above, Hatch, you’re not very good at using it.

    • Friday’s_cat

      The republican responsible for blocking the public option was Joe Lieberman as a sop to his Big Insurance masters. Ned Lamont beat his sorry ass in the primary but as usual Democrats caved by not supporting him.

      • Tread

        God. Ned Lamont. I forgot about that debacle. It was totally shameful of the Democrats, their support for that shameless asshole, Lieberman.

      • BearEyes

        Ned Lamont was no prize either – and I can’t stand lieberman – voted against him every chance I got.

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    Utah is missing an idiot. I think we’ve found him for you.

  • jayjonson

    And what about Romneycare, which was the model for Obamacare?

    • Friday’s_cat

      The bastard children of the Heritage Foundation answer to health care.

  • canoebum

    This rotten scumbag has been screwing over the American people for more than 30 years. The ACA saved my life. Period. This turd can fuck off and die as far as I’m concerned, and he can take Clarence Thomas with him when he goes.

    • Mark

      Same with me. I’d be dead now if it weren’t for ACA.

    • not a user 220000

      ANYTHING to get rid of that Associate Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court Clarence Thomas! It galls me just to write that title next to such an undeserving name (even if the Court is all corrupt now, anyway)

    • Cattleya1

      Not wishing them dead, but should they be on the way down, maybe they could share the same concrete galoshes.

  • Judas Peckerwood

    Die, you fascist fuck.

  • Tomcat

    May Karma strike Orin Hatch in the near future, and or his family members.

  • anne marie in philly

    orrin, orrin, orrin, surely you are speaking of your own GOPrick sheeple, amirite? STFU already!

  • BJORN RAGNVALDR

    “If you do, you are one of the stupidest, dumbass people I’ve ever met.” Has he not met his voter base?

    • Mickey Bitsko

      Only the very wealthiest ones.

      • Bryan

        He’s got a perfectly functioning mirror.

        …..Not that he’s seen his reflection in it since sometime in the 15th Century.

        • not a user 220000

          Was *that* when he became a blood-sucking vampire, Bryan? 🙂

          • Bryan

            Working theory – I’m not versed on ancient highland history… but someone should be seeing if Orrin Hatch is in any way an anagram for Vlad the Impaler.

    • Cattleya1

      Likely, not…

  • Tomcat

    Why is it that all republican politicians look like they could pass as confederate generals.

  • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

    Annnnnd BOOM!

    FBI counterintel investigating Ivanka Trump business deal

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/01/politics/ivanka-trump-fbi-investigation/index.html

  • DreadPikathulhu

    This is what substitutes for policy analysis for the GOP

  • “They’re the stupidest, dumbass people I’ve ever met. So now I’m backing Gov. Obamacare to be the next Senator for Utah.”

    • johncAtl

      I’d rather have Mitt in the senate than most of the republicans there. At least he’s sane. But no matter political philosophy, he’s too damn old to be starting a Senate career.

  • Rocco

    Good thing Einstein is retiring…

  • Friday’s_cat

    When Mormons adopted the Magic Singlet of Onan sheep molestation dropped 74% in Utah.

  • Michael R

    Rick Gates tells judge he’s canceling trip to
    Boston, due to threat invoking Russian mafia

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/01/politics/rick-gates-boston-threat/index.html

    • Lazycrockett

      “Care for some tea?”

    • SoCalGal20

      Protective custody might be in order?

    • Lazycrockett

      Prettty much confirming Manafort is a Russian Agent.

    • This seems quite plausible given the situation. Honestly surprised at this point that he and his family aren’t in protective custody in a safe-house somewhere.

      • not a user 220000

        What a headache for federal law-enforcement! FBI probably has to waste time and $$$ coordinating with Secret Service and U.S. Marshals

      • johncAtl

        It’s not a coincidence that Putin announced new missiles today.

  • MikeBx2

    Totally not stupid or dumbass Orrin Hatch believes an angel directed Joseph Smith to buried golden plates and Smith secretly translated them into the Book of Mormon, a book of writings of ancient prophets who lived in America.

    • not a user 220000

      Wasn’t there also a hat involved?

      • evanedwards

        Yep, he put a seer stone in it and then held the hat over his face and read the plates which he found that somehow became encased in stone on his way back. Short story, it was just a big rock that he found and he made it all up.

    • Tor

      And then he fucking lost them.

    • johncAtl

      And Jesus vacationed in New York.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Jefe5084

      Could not have happened to a more sweller feller.

    • Cuberly Deux

      I emailed the HIll version of that to Joe earlier.

      Really says something that the CMA is going out so hard for pro-lgbt support. Color me surprised.

      • Friday’s_cat

        Ones that disappoint me are artists that participate in the iHeartRadio Music Awards. iHeartMedia and Cumulus Media are responsible for AM Hate Radio.

    • JT
    • evanedwards

      How does it feel to be excluded, Mike?

  • ETownCanuck
  • Jefe5084

    hey! do that invisible eye glasses thing again

    • not a user 220000

      Get your own Percocet!

  • j.martindale

    Listen, you old fart. You have been in the Senate forever, and you did
    shit to help the people who were bankrupt by their medical bills and who
    were unable to get insurance because of pre-existing conditions. You
    useless tool–you have no right to bitch because other people tried to do the job you neglected.

    • not a user 220000

      Preach!

  • DaddyRay
    • not a user 220000

      “Further investigation revealed it to be merely trash.”

      Exactly.

      • DaddyRay

        Or is that what the Ministry of Magic wants us muggles to think?

        • not a user 220000

          Sorry, but I’m not allowed to comment on that subject.

  • kirby7771

    Hatch can go screw himself.

  • kelven
    • Tor

      Fodder for Tony PerKKKins’s newsfeed tomorrow. More in Christian Martyrdom(TM).

    • safari

      Good.

      The announcement follows pointed criticism from members of the country music industry, as well as fans — much of it stemming from Huckabee’s stance on LGBT issues.

  • Motherfucker can just go fuck himself.

    ‘Obamacare’ is the label the GOP stuck on the Affordable Care Act. The mandate was to help keep prices down.

    I find it remarkable Hatch is fine with people dying due to lack of access to healthcare or being guaranteed to go bankrupt if they get sick or have a bad accident.

    The only stupid things about ACA were the lack of a public insurance option and the fact it didn’t lead us closer to single-payer.

    • not a user 220000

      And also failing to give Medicare the express power to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies on drug pricing

  • BearEyes

    well, I don’t hold people willing to give up their healthcare only to go bankrupt if they get sick to be amongst the smartest and brightest.

  • MBear

    GFY

  • JWC

    Oh No Mr Hatch the stupidest dumbassed people around are those that call it Obamacare when it is really l known as the Affordable Care Act The GOP called it Obamacare to give it a name for shame and a fear tactic

  • Lars Littlefield

    Las Vegas is a poppin’ with gustuff.There have been a minimum of five gun threat calls to as many elementary and middle schools. And a giant sign on Las Vegas Blvd. that advertises “Shoot An AR-15 for Only $29.” was changed overnight to read, “Shoot a Student for Only $29.” (we get the Vegas news feeds instead of SLC’ cause Vegas is closer.)

    • Pip

      I was just in Vegas about a week ago. I had to laugh at a sign for shooting an AR15 (date night suggestion) right under a #VEGASSTRONG marquee. That ad for the AR15 shooting range is all over the city right now. More often than not close to a Vegas Strong sign. Just all seemed pretty tone deaf to me, or deliberate.

  • Blake J Butler
  • bkmn

    Can someone in West Virginia please educate your senator?

    http://www.newsweek.com/joe-manchin-ar-15-ban-democrat-824444

    • evanedwards

      Manchin is hopeless. Nobody can enlighten a bag of hair.

  • kareemachan

    Gee, I want people to live. Evidently, orrin doesn’t.

    Fuckwad.

  • Just Noh

    not quite as dumbass as someone who believes in a religion founded by a dowsing grifter looking at invisible rocks in a hat while wearing magic goggles.

  • S. Murray

    There is nothing that gives me more pleasure than knowing he will be dead soon!

    • bkmn

      Soon is not soon enough

    • brined2

      Hatch?

  • Lazycrockett
    • safari

      I don’t understand the walking.

    • canoebum

      In Maracaibo Venezuela, water is supplied to residents on a 1 and 3 schedule, 24 hours with water, 72 without. It been that way for the past two years, at least. But that’s Venezuela, with 2600% inflation haunting a failed state run by a gang of murderous narcotraficantes. How is it that Puerto Rico, a Territory of the United States of America, is allowed to languish in such misery? Those culpable, and I mean the leaders of the Federal government, deserve long prison sentences for their obscene dereliction of duty.

      • Barry William Teske

        Correction.
        Current leaders of your federal government

        • canoebum

          No correction needed. I was referring to the US Federal government.

          • Barry William Teske

            The current one, yes?

          • canoebum

            With regard to Puerto Rico, as with everything else totally screwed up by these evil clowns, yes, the current US Federal government. I’d personally pay real money to see Donald Trump hanged. And I’m a peaceable man. Paper towel, anyone?

          • Barry William Teske

            Save the moola.
            Save the trees.
            Seems the man might be more in auto asphyxiation than he lets on…

  • JackNasty

    No one has done more to allow con artists at pharmaceutical companies to raise the price of drugs to outrageous heights than Orrin Hatch. Orrin thinks price gouging is smart.

  • evanedwards

    OT: Counterintelligence officials at the FBI are investigating Ivanka’s business dealings in Vancouver.

    https://www.bustle.com/p/the-fbi-is-investigating-ivanka-trumps-business-deals-in-vancouver-report-8380654

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci
  • ohbear1957

    O/T I don’t give two shits what Lahren “thinks” and I applaud Kyra’s response.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3981f969452e831a244fe04750f9854ecd3e30c96cd2c4ca92f855d547a90c88.jpg

  • ClevelandJim

    But calling people “deplorable” was worse…

    • brined2

      no clear path to 270 was unconscionable

    • Mike

      Baloney. Hillary specifically called racists, homophobes, misogynists, and the like “deplorables”. She was right, only “deplorable” was too kind a name for them.

      Orrin Hatch is insulting people who want to be able to get healthcare they can afford when they get sick, and so they support the only plan the government has ever put forward to make that possible.

      • JCF

        Um, Mike: ClevelandJim is being sarcastic.

        • Mike

          Good to know. People say such outlandish things in comments sections, it’s not always clear which ones are sarcasm. Glad that CJ is not deplorable.

  • SkokieGuy / May attempt snark

    DNC ad we’ll never see: America, over half of you support Obamacare. This is what the Republican party thinks of you *roll clip*

  • brined2

    you gotta admit, Obama did have some dummies in the choir

  • Lazycrockett
  • Max_1

    Shorter Hatch: I have mine for life…
    … Everyone else can eat shit.

    • #DJTK5F

      He thinks he has Eternally Bonded Celestial Healthcare.

  • kaydenpat

    Wow. I better bite my tongue before I say something horrible about his health.

    • m_lp_ql_m

      Yea, you should shut your hatch.

      • kaydenpat

        Lol!!

  • brined2

    how ’bout dem Yanks!

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    The people who voted for this monster are just as monstrous. Always keep that in mind.

    • brined2

      10-4

  • What do you call a Senator who’s served 18 42 years in the Senate? You call him home.

    Bye, Felicia.

  • Michael R

    So he’s willing to give his health care to someone who needs it ?

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      You’ve hit on the solution to the nation’s health coverage problem!
      Hatch is a Mormon, right? SSM is recognized in all 50 states, right?
      Hatch just marries every adult and adopts every child in the country, and puts them all on his plan.
      Presto, done! Everyone’s covered.

  • brined2

    why can’t we have free health care for everyone

    • safari

      [Troll, evidently]

      • johncAtl

        In his case it’s [Troll, proven].

    • johncAtl

      Silly voter. That’s only for members of Congress.

      • brined2

        you make a great point

  • fuzzybits
    • JCF

      Something about Aubrey Plaza’s eyes warm me in my funny places. 😉 [And that’s before she talks dirty!]

      • not a user 220000

        She is a hottie!

  • Bad Tom

    I had to get a health care plan from the Mass Connector this year (my coverage started today.)

    I got to keep my doctors. It’s not cheap. About what I thought it would cost. It’s affordable. It will deal with my meds.

    Yet, evidence suggests I’m not a stupid dumbass.

    It’s a puzzle.

    • johncAtl

      Are you retired?

      • Bad Tom

        No. I’m doing a self-funded startup. But we have the prototype working. Every time we demo it, it wows folks. I’m currently writing the patent, which will unlock a bunch of funding possibilities.

        Patents are huge pains in the ass.

    • safari

      My current job ends at the end of the month. If I’m not situated, I’ll have to look into options.

      • johncAtl

        It snowed today on campus. You should move south.

        • safari

          You’d be amazed how much passive aggressive push back I get for contemplating moving from my family.

  • BeaverTales

    So I am the boss of 3 people, all of whom know I’m a gay black Democrat. Whenever the topic of Trump comes up, they all change the subject as quickly as possible. No one will tell me if they are Trump supporters or not, and I don’t like to censor myself in my own place of business….I work from my own home.

    If I were to say things like “Trumpcare supporters are the stupidest dumbasses I’ve ever met”, can I be sued for workplace harassment? Or does free speech only apply to churches and elected officials?

    • brined2

      politics shouldn’t be a condition of employment. If they’re doing a good job, you have good employees

      • BeaverTales

        That wasn’t my question, but yes, I know when someone is doing a good job. My right to speak my mind on the phone or to a guest in my house is important to me. Just curious if I can legally pull the same antics Sen Hatch does when an employee is present?.

        To me a good employee minds their own business when I am on a personal call.

        • brined2

          Just me, but I keep politics and religion away from conversations at work. That’s not my advice, just my opinion

          • BeaverTales

            Well I’m moving to Canada in a few months and closing my business in the US, so I’m sure that my opinions on American politics will not be considered harassment.

            But your opinion seems sound to me, since I get phone calls at home from friends and customers alike.

          • brined2

            learn to end every sentence with eh

    • not a user 220000

      Good question, BeaverTales.

      You can be sued at any time for any thing by anybody, which you probably know. But, whether the lawsuit has merit is another question.

      afaik, you can say what you like about politics in the workplace (so long as you are not a government employee on any level), when you are the boss, as far as your employees having a claim against you. What I mean by that is, if you start saying something like, “I’m buying up ******** Nitrate to build a huge bomb!” then don’t be surprised if you get a visit from the FBI or ATF–however, your employees can’t sue you for it.

      It’s a complicated issue that can’t really be answered adequately on the internet, but the hypothetical you gave about saying “Trumpcare supporters are the stupidest….” is perfectly fine *legally,* imo. (That doesn’t mean I think it would be a good idea, or that it’s morally ok, or anything else.)

  • #DJTK5F

    Stupidest people I’ve ever encountered have all been Mormons.

    Second stupidest were real Christians.

    Orrin Hatch: pedophile, polygamist.

  • Jim Maloney

    I’m sure there are a few that feel that way about him and even more so now.

    “Crazy Mormon Guy Kinda Swears…Twice”

  • JT
  • brined2

    my monthly premium was at $184/mo pre-Obamacare and $435/mo immediately thereafter. But, my deductible doubled, too, so there’s that.

    • Michael R
      • Christopher

        Aww man! I thought you meant Andrew Breitbart was calling for them to join him on the other side.

        Damn!

    • DoctorDJ
    • safari

      Honey, tell me about coverage and which state you are in.

      • brined2

        NY, my original coverage was for catastrophic. If I needed immediate hospital coverage for slicing my hand with a saw or a heart attack, I was covered with no deductible. All follow up charges I paid. With Obamacare, I had to spend $3000 before I could use my $435/month insurance.

        • safari

          That is unfortunate. Our healthcare system is the most expensive in the industrialized world.

          • brined2

            agreed. There are a lot of reasons for it and government may be top of the list

          • safari

            I actually think it is the opposite: nationalized systems are much cheaper and have *much* better outcomes.

            We’re one of the few industrial nations with *increasing* infant mortality, for example. And we pay out the nose.

          • brined2

            countries we’re compared to don’t have the same issues.

          • safari

            Agreed.

          • BobSF_94117

            Yeah, we have nothing in common with the rest of the industrialized world. Anymore…

          • Barry William Teske

            LIar.

          • johncAtl

            Primarily the GOP, but there are many democrats that get blame too. The health industry (insurers, doctors, hospitals) dumps millions into politician’s pocket yearly

          • brined2

            Pharmaceuticals certainly do, but premiums seem to rise when the government gets involved

          • johncAtl

            Ask one of the many Canadians here how they feel about their healthcare and what they pay.

          • brined2

            I have. I work with Canadians. Their taxes are huge. Their healthcare waiting lines long

          • johncAtl

            Tradeoffs for not worrying if a catastrophic illness will bankrupt you, and you also might be left unable to work.

          • safari

            But they don’t seem to die as often.

          • I doubt you work with Canadians or else they’re lying to you for some reason. I’m Canadian. Healthcare waiting lines (?) or times or whatever you’re trying to say, are not long. You can believe what you want but don’t spread lies.

          • brined2

            a 59-year-old Canadian man I met in Vancouver played hockey in a senior’s league. He was in pretty good shape, but needed a new hip. He had been waiting 10 months at that point and was discouraged because he’d be sidelined for the coming season (that’s two seasons he’d be missing). I don’t know how much longer he had to wait before he had the procedure
            I was visiting hospitals in Toronto and Halifax. The waits for dialysis were extremely long. One of the technicians told me the waits were typical. He said payients complained that their time was spent either on dialysis or on line waiting for it.

          • And I could give you dozens of anecdotes from myself, my family, my friends, people I know everywhere in Canada that would tell you that waiting times are on par with US waiting times, in some cases faster. A 59-year-old waiting 10+ months for a hip replacement in Vancouver? That’s either not true at all or there are other factors that he didn’t tell you or you’re leaving details out. I know three people who have had hip replacements in Ontario and there were no waiting times beyond the normal times between initial doctor visits/surgery/follow up.

            As for dialysis, I’ve never heard of unreasonable waiting times to receive dialysis. I did read reports that waiting times for kidney transplants have increased due to an aging population (and increased obesity) and too few donors and that has increased the cost of dialysis but not waiting times. If people need dialysis, they get it.

          • Barry William Teske

            You are a fucking liar.

          • Barry William Teske

            How civil of you.

        • BobSF_94117

          Have you looked into the “follow up charges” for a heart attack?

          • safari

            Do explain.

          • BobSF_94117

            He had a crap policy that covered only a few emergency costs. The insurance industry offers those policies because they make a fortune on them. That’s why the ACA doesn’t allow them. They destroy people.

          • brined2

            yeah, big.

    • not a user 220000

      $1000+ here (as of April 1, if the CA Ins Comm doesn’t intervene)–but that is a “grandfathered” policy that includes pharmacy benefits

  • MoonlightUnkindledOne

    Orrin, the stupidest, dumbass people that exist are Trump supporters. Maybe you need a nap.

  • AndyinChicago

    Hold up. This was a plan that was first designed by Mitt Romney, Hatch’s successor apparent. He realizes that, right? He’s gonig to be replaced with and endorse a stupid, dumbass person.

    • Cuberly Deux

      We knew that, they knew that, they all knew that. But they’re “conservatives”. They only acknowledge what’s filling their pockets with $$ at that moment.

    • whollyfool

      Right. At first Obama was calling it RomneyCare….

    • johncAtl

      Actually it predates Romney’s tenure as governor of Massachusetts. It was created by the (drum roll) Heritage Foundation to stop Hillary when Bill was president.

  • Mike C
    • safari

      Is it all of them?

      • JCF

        Tiffany & Barron still in the clear (for now)!

  • jimbo65

    This from a guy who sees anybody relying on the social safety net as no good bums. Fuck off and retire already you old fossil.

    • Bride of Trump

      I vote for him stroking out stat.

  • Michael R
    • JCF

      Who…what???

      {{{ZB & Pack Leader}}}

    • safari

      She make me happy. Thank you for sharing her.

    • BobSF_94117

      Wheeeeeeeeeeeee

    • Cuberly Deux

      Only a fool would downvote ZB.

    • jimbo65

      Who the hell are these fools?You have to be a special kind of evil not to appreciate an adorable animal.

    • not a user 220000

      Who would do such a thing?

    • whollyfool

      My phone is miscalibrated and sometimes counts a downvote for an upvote. I think I catch them but if anyone sees a weird downvote that might be it.

      Who on earth could downvote ZB on purpose? <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

      • whollyfool

        Also, I think this is my favorite of all the ZB pics. So happy!

  • evanedwards

    O/T The Wall Street Journal Eviscerates Trump…

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-tariff-folly-1519950205

    • BobSF_94117

      Aw. The honeymoon is over.

  • barryearle

    I wrote him:
    You are quoted as saying: “[We] finally did away with the individual mandate tax that was established under that wonderful bill called ObamaCare,” Hatch said during his remarks. “Now, if you didn’t catch on, I was being very sarcastic. That was the stupidest, dumbass bill that I’ve ever seen.” “Some of you may have loved it,” he continued. “If you do, you are one of the stupidest, dumbass people I’ve ever met. And there are a lot of them up there on Capitol Hill from time to time.”

    You are right. And you are their leader.

    Meanwhile, I’m stupid and a dumb ass because as a taxpayer I’m covering your high-end health insurance for which you pay nothing. Clearly, you have no idea what the cost of healthcare is as a result of living in the Congressional healthcare bubble. Maybe it’s time to have our senators pay for their own healthcare and prescription medicines so they can get a touch of the reality we stupid dumb asses live with everyday.

    Too bad the 45,000 people a year who died because they couldn’t afford healthcare prior to Obamacare can’t write you. I hope all those people who went bankrupt because of a major medical emergency prior to Obamacare contact you and help you understand what that was like losing one’s home and moving in with the kids.

    But how would you know? You have spent your whole career in Washington, D.C., sucking on the public teat, accepting “donations,” writing and passing laws that helped your business friends and supporters succeed in the mythical “free market,” like the one that allowed any supplement into the marketplace so that people without healthcare (and even those with it) could buy these miracles in a bottle. How many people ended up in hospitals or died because of your law?

    And so you and your party want to move us back to the good old days of high-cost private insurance companies, businesses that actually have nothing to do with healthcare and everything to do with profit, some of which, I’m sure, flows to you in the form of those “donations.”

    I’m glad you are finally leaving the Senate, probably with your gold-plated healthcare in tact. Maybe Utah will finally elect someone who isn’t as insulated and ideologically imprisoned as you are. But I doubt it.

    Sad.

  • JWC

    O/T Is there something wrong with the system today I posted comments on both the Orin hatch thread and the previous thread with Tony Perkins On neither thread , altho posted show up. Why is that?

    • evanedwards

      Probably just Disqus being Disqus. But, you can try to clear your cache and then refresh those pages, the comments might show up.

      Also, there are certain magic words, mostly of the four letter variety, that may prevent you post from showing at all.

      • JWC

        I pepper mine with a lot of 4 letter words that seem to go thru

        • evanedwards

          I used to use a lot of swear words on Disqus too. But it was about a year ago when I had trouble with a post not showing up, I forget the exact word now, but it was either a swear word or something pretty violent that was in some text I quoted. It would act like it was posting, and I could see the message until I refreshed the page, then the entire comment was just gone. It took me quite a while to isolate the word in question, I wish I could remember what it was, but of course I couldn’t mention it here anyway.

    • Lazycrockett

      I have been having issues with auto loading comments. Comments will go from like 14 to 69 when I reload the page.

      • JWC

        Thanx I was starting to think my comments were innocuous and boring

        • BJORN RAGNVALDR

          Oh, honey, they’re an inoculation from boredom!!

          • JWC

            hehehe innocuous not inoculation

      • evanedwards

        Since I have a relatively fast internet connection, I’ve found it helpful in Firefox (but I’m sure you can do it other browsers) to replace the standard refresh button with a refresh button that bypasses the browser cache. It’s just more reliable since it always loads the latest page as it currently exists. You might need to download an add-on for your browser to do this. Alternatively, most browsers will allow you to just disable the cache altogether somewhere in their settings, which will have the same effect.

        • Lazycrockett

          I use one of those, I’m not getting the little blue “Show more comments” script. I though half of the usual’s on here were all at a fab party this afternoon without me.

          • evanedwards

            If you have an ad-blocker, make sure it is not blocking java script. I think the ‘show more comments above’ thingy operates with java script, not to be confused with plain old Java which is entirely different. Also, some add-ons will give you a java-script blocking button on the browser toolbar or in its menus, if you have anything like that, you’ll need to make sure it is allowing JS. And, of course there are also script-blocking add-ons for the very security conscious among us, if you’re using one of those, you have to make sure you allow JS for all Disqus domains and perhaps JMG as well.

          • safari

            Javascript is the beginning of the net. Javascript is the end of the net.

      • JWC

        weird now it appeared with 6 upvotes

    • johncAtl

      Disqus is back in it’s flaky mode. On my MacBook I have to chase the arrow to upvote. If I move the pointer close to it the page scrolls. Sometimes up. Sometimes down.

  • Lazycrockett

    This guy on Chris Hayes is drunk.

    • safari

      Aren’t we all?

      • Lazycrockett

        Not on teevee.

        • safari

          That would make the difference.

    • Cuberly Deux

      The Jolly dude?

      • Lazycrockett

        Senator from Oregon.

        • Cuberly Deux

          Ah

        • JCF

          Ah, that’s my former Senator. Senator Mushmouth, Ron Wyden (he’s like that naturally). Weird mouth…good guy.

      • TrollopeReader

        Rs would say Jolly is drunk ..but that’s because he’s actually making sense….(he’s a retired R congresscritter)

    • TrollopeReader

      i think he has a lisp …

  • brined2

    friends, progressives, mouth-breathers, and patriots……
    It’s been another day of spirited discussion, but Tucker Carlson is on. Best to all until next time

    • DaddyRay

      Please, I just ate dinner

      • safari

        He wasn’t a mean troll. Just a confused one.

        • Silver Badger

          But still a troll. Sad

          • safari

            Indeed. I had to block him. Life is too short and the trolling never ends.

        • UrsusArctos 🐻

          At first I was thinking he was a bot from “The Midvale School for the Gifted”, then more posts made it clear it’s someone spouting crap to see reactions. I generally never block. It helps me see how those I think fairly good of respond to trolls. It gives me insight on who thinks and who responds without thought.

        • johncAtl

          He was actually a little sane tonight. I was surprised.

      • TrollopeReader

        (too much brine above, methinks!) only brine once, not twice !!

    • coram nobis

      Cucker Tarlson?

  • DaddyRay
    • not a user 220000

      This is awesome! Thank you for sharing, Daddy Ray! If even 10% of gun owners did this, it would be an improvement over how things stand now

    • Barry William Teske

      BRAVO!

    • coram nobis

      Yes! Why send thoughts and prayers, when you can send pots and pans made of the finest gunmetal! Bravissimo.

    • JCF

      I did that w/ all my dad’s remaining ammunition 6 months ago. [You need to call ahead! Don’t go walking into the PD or sherriff w/ a gun!]

    • Hue-Man

      A rocket launcher and automatic rifles were among the 57,000 firearms handed in during a three-month gun amnesty in Australia, the country’s first since tough gun laws were introduced in 1996.

      http://www.wtva.com/content/national/475490663.html?ref=663

      You’ve gotta start somewhere.

  • Lazycrockett
    • safari

      Good.

    • MBear

      Pity

    • DaddyRay
    • Lars Littlefield

      So long. Farewell. We’re glad to see you go.
      It’s time to say, “Go fuck yourself and die.”
      So long . . .
      Farewell . . .
      GO DIE!!!!!!

      • johncAtl

        I don’t quite remember that being the lyrics, but I’ll go with it.

        • Lars Littlefield

          😀

    • Bambino

      Thoughts and prayers. Ramen.

    • TCinBerkeley

      Now if only they would stop taking the NRA’s advertising money. I have seen it twice now and the sound of that fishwife’s voice (Dana L) induced me to write a strongly worded letter and refuse to watch YouTube for a week. If I get back on and it is still there, I may start a nondenominational jihad.

  • TrollopeReader

    Gosh, well my dumb ass appreciates Romney-Obama Care for all of the cardio-pulmonary issues they’ve covered for me …..

    doddering old fool.

    • johncAtl

      I work with this guy who has had a pacemaker since he was a teenager (60+ now). He spends all day on Fox News and hates Obama. His biggest fear now is that he’ll be laid off now before he’s able to retire, and he won’t be able to get health insurance. I don’t even bother to respond when he starts talking about that.

  • Highmoremotel

    shocking

  • TrollopeReader
    • DaddyRay

      NRA
      OUR TIME
      IS UP

      FIFY

    • TampaDink

      I’m not entirely sure how these ads are generated…but it seems to be based on browser history. For example, while I don’t have any ads for the nra, I do have ads featuring some furniture I was shopping for online.

    • Chris H.

      I’ve been getting one for some other RWNJ gun group. Seems to be triggered whenever there is a story about the NRA or guns. I just click it a few dozen times since Joe gets some $$$ when they are clicked.

      • johncAtl

        It’s Google at work. If Joe posts five articles tomorrow about vasectomies and you read them you’ll be getting ads suggesting you get one.

        • Barry William Teske

          That is not work.
          More like self serving.
          Dots.

    • Lars Littlefield

      Someone’s cookies are talking to other cookies based on what you’ve been looking at. Time to clean your browser’s stash of cookies. That should take care of the problem . . . for a while.

    • Bambino

      Not on mine. If you visited any right wing sites, the ads might follow you here. Browsers are recording every sites you visit or click. I got boxer shorts and men shirts and t-shirts ads 😛

      • Lars Littlefield

        Mine is mostly porn sites, JMG, Amazon, and Duluth Trading Co (best quality t-shrts a credit card can buy).

      • coram nobis

        Not on my browser either; the right column for my JMG page has Tshirts with dog’s faces on them, and contact sites for Russian or Asian hussies and trollops. Also cowboy boots.

        That does not jibe with my browser history.

        • Bambino

          I got those dog face t-shirts too LOL! One would think I would be bombarded with cat t-shirts instead.

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            I get the weird animal face ads and Real Jock.

      • misterjack

        Me: Real Jock, Tempur Pedic Presidents Sale, Myrtle Beach Discount Tickets.

    • JCF

      Joe can’t control it. Just get an ad blocker, and you won’t see it.

  • WarrenHart
    • Aren’t those the magic things Joseph Smith wore to decipher the Golden Tablets the talking salamander revealed to him in Upstate New York for the revelation of the book of mormon? Or was that the seer stone?

    • NZArtist

      Yeah, I do that at least once a day as well. Or try to put my reading glasses overtop my general-use glasses.

  • DaddyRay

    Sorry Gates, you made your bed – no sympathy from me
    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/969351903426633729

    • safari

      He shouldn’t feel safe. I’m genuinely concerned.

    • Lars Littlefield

      May he sleep with the cabbages and beets.

      • safari

        I do need to learn to cook those better.

        • johncAtl

          I love beets … cold.

          • Cuberly Deux

            lol…ewwww….lol…

          • I grew up on cold borscht and dill, and cold sour cherry fruit soup in the summer (so good) with yogurt and sour cream, and hot beet soup in the winter from my Russian grandmother. Pickled beets are also good. Summer in general was the time for cold fresh fruit and yoghurt soups made from berries and things. If done right it can be very delicious.

          • stevenj

            Cold and marinated.

          • not a user 220000

            Pickled is great, too!

          • JCF

            The beet goes on.

        • not a user 220000

          It’s good to have ice-water on hand, in a big bowl, so you can ‘shock’ the beets when you take them out of the blanching water, otherwise, they get mushy even before roasting.

        • BJORN RAGNVALDR

          What have you learned to cook well?

          ***DUCKS***

      • I just had a cabbage and sunflower seed salad for dinner with kale and carrots and vidalia onion lemon dressing. It sounds too healthy but it was very delicious. I just finished it when I read this.

        • not a user 220000

          It does sound too healthy, even for me! 🙂

    • TampaDink

      So, he should send his wife & 4 kids on their planned trip without him. One of the terms of his plea agreement is to be available for further questioning at any time. Additionally the family spring break trip should never have been considered as a valid reason to leave the jurisdiction where he has bargained for his (eventual) freedom. Fuck him.

    • Lazycrockett
      • Bomer

        I really want cups like that.

        • Todd20036

          me 2

    • The_Wretched

      Entirely expected.

    • stevenj

      Dear Rick, A little hair, makeup and a nice new outfit and you’ll be fine in Boston.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/41e1b7c58006ccd3a14bc27eece41d09cc688970114952f45b7c4b70da79b540.jpg

      • JCF

        LOL

    • TrollopeReader

      if he *had* come to Boston, he would have learned the fundamentals of the founding of the New Republic .. (well, Faneuil Hall (the original building) is closed for renovations, but I think the rest of the city is open … of course he could’ve been washed away in tomorrow’s Nor’ Easter .. which will have three of the five highest tides *ever* in Boston ….

      • not a user 220000

        Faneuil Hall is pretty impressive–at least it was to me. I hope they manage to keep some of its original grandeur intact, when the renovations are finished.

  • DaddyRay
    • not a user 220000

      “Press 1 if you are the Commander-in-Chief;
      “Press 2 if you are a member of the Commander-in-Chief’s family, a Cabinet Member, or the Director of an Administrative Agency;
      “Press 3 if you are a lawyer, judge, or Member of Congress;
      “Press 4 if you need a Russian translator; one will be provided at your own expense.
      “All others, please dial “0” for the Operator, now.

      • coram nobis

        An operator will be with you shortly. Meantime please continue holding and listening to elevator music.

        • safari

          *Russian national anthem*

          • not a user 220000

            Translators may not be provided for the national anthem, per 74 CFR §§ 22000.001 et seq.

  • UrsusArctos 🐻

    He NEEDS to “self-deport” to Kolob.

  • safari

    Twenty minutes to Rachel. (I tell you since I forget.)

    • not a user 220000

      “If found, please stop looking and walk away.”

  • Bambino

    Oh this asshole is just oozing his hatred of black isn’t he? Oh well, he is 83. Thoughts and prayers.

    • JT

      He lived more than half his life under the Mormon policy that blacks were inferior and he still believes that Mormon shit. So, who’s the dumbfuck?

      • I think they accept Blacks now right? Blacks can be accepted to the priesthood. They no longer have the mark of Cain or the devil or something.

        • JT

          That’s right. The big Kahuna got a call from Kolob in 1978.

  • Barry William Teske

    When all else fails, go for the comb over, eh Hatch?

  • DaddyRay
    • Lars Littlefield

      THIS!!!!

      • Barry William Teske

        ^^^^THIS^^^^

    • Bryan

      Hell, I’d force him out over his shitty sense of humor alone.

      • Todd20036

        I’d force him out because of his animal torturing son

        • KnownDonorDad

          There’s a wealth of reasons to dislike him, it’s quite handy.

    • Christopher
    • JCF

      Dig it: COUNTRY MUSIC FANS forced Huckabee out for being anti-gay! [Bet you couldn’t have said that 10 years ago…]

      • Todd20036

        I’m gobsmacked.

    • Todd20036

      I remember when country music embraced racism, misogyny, anti LBGT bigotry, and anti religious (non Christian) bigotry.

      It’s why I never bothered listening to it.

      • evan_or

        Yeah, and that’s why I’m repulsed by it to this day.

  • evanedwards

    OT but interesting. Trump is the first president in 130 years to not have a pet in the white house, and why it matters…

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/article/The-pet-less-Trump-White-House-and-why-that-12721474.php

  • Paula

    Its O.K. Orrin, you’ll check out soon.

    • johncAtl

      Mentally he already has.

  • testastretta

    Says the guy representing the state with the highest per-capita viewership in the nation on Pornhub. Also: top two categories? Lesbians and incest.

  • coram nobis

    Up yours too, Senator, he cordially said.

  • thatotherjean

    Good thing ol’ Orrin decided to retire. He’s forgotten how to read polls, and hasn’t talked to his constituents for some time now, or he’d know that the ACA continues to grow in Utah, despite his best efforts to kill it. Get out of the way, Orrin..

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I only wish he’d become the least popular man in his neighborhood so he’d actually feel it.

  • Lazycrockett

    Leo Gerard and Chris Matthews need to have a conversation.

    • johncAtl

      The steel war was lost years ago. Time to move on.

  • Natty Enquirer

    Cut. His. Mic. (MSNBC guest won’t shut up.)

  • DaddyRay

    Rachel Time!!!

    • Natty Enquirer

      Yay! No more Leo harangue!

  • derpderp

    ah yes, how stupid of me… not wanting to die ‘n stuff.

    how dare i?

  • SoCalGal20
  • Luddite

    I thought Hatch was already dead. Pity.

    • TrollopeReader

      doddering, but not done…(yet).

    • Michael R

      Frequently mistaken for Phyllis Schlafly,

      • safari

        Huh. She dead.

  • Happy_Housewife

    That wasn’t a very nice thing for him to say about The Heritage Foundation.

  • BJORN RAGNVALDR
    • not a user 220000

      Uh-oh. Please notify the Director there are now felines with opposable thumbs amongst us

    • JCF

      “Eat your hearts out, humans!”

      http://media-assets-02.thedrum.com/cache/images/thedrum-prod/s3-news-tmp-85019-oscar–2×1–940.jpg

      ETA: I just noticed that Spacey is in this thing. That’s a job for Photoshop…

    • johncAtl

      The cat is thinking “let me get a picture before I kill these fools.”

      • not a user 220000

        And the dogs are thinking, “Is there food inside that little box?”

        • Natty Enquirer

          Like the one the cat scratches around in?

          • not a user 220000

            Ahhh, I left that purposely vague for a reason! 🙂

    • Ross

      Tooooooooooo fabulous!

  • No More GOP.

    I’m generally not too perturbed by the opinions the deeply corrupt have of me, Orin.

    • BJORN RAGNVALDR

      That’s pretty much where I am with him.

  • evanedwards
    • Hank

      As if anyone other than the Deplorables ACTUALLY believes he will make any changes

    • Lazycrockett

      Everything he said in that meeting is null and void the second they left his mouth.

  • Lazycrockett
    • not a user 220000

      “Battlefield Vegas”–you just couldn’t make this stuff up if you tried!

      • Lazycrockett

        Its like a monthly gun show/convention in LV.

        • Lars Littlefield

          I’m still rejoicing over the 13 year-old girl who shot and killed a rifle range operator south of Vegas a couple of years ago. It only cost her 10 or 11 dollars.

        • not a user 220000

          I’ve been to a similar “show” at the Rose Bowl, many years ago. Basically, a gun swap-meet.

    • Lars Littlefield

      Plus, there were five different gun threat calls to Vegas area schools today.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      As an aside, the cops never find who vandalizes billboards put up by atheists.

    • JCF

      So do we think the vandal is pro-gun or anti-gun? [Cuz I could see it either way.]

  • Silver Badger

    Someone isn’t running for office anymore. He also forgets that the individual mandate tax was a republican contribution.

  • DaddyRay
    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I hope he gets a big settlement so he’s not just free and broke.

      • William

        No amount can compensate for the years of lost freedom.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Hue-Man

      wiki:
      “In 1965, she moved to the United States and began touring. Some of her original songs (“Urge for Going”, “Chelsea Morning”, “Both Sides, Now”, “The Circle Game”) were covered by other folk singers, allowing her to sign with Reprise Records and record her debut album in 1968.”

      • worstcultever

        Piece of history, Oct 1966

        Really astonishing her musical polish and writing maturity almost from out of the gate – every other musician on this stage knows they’re seeing something very apart from the usual

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3EofN3Flag

        • not a user 220000

          It gives me shivers, still

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Since her March 2015 hospitalizattion and coma (she was found unresponsive at home), she has actually been out and about, including to parties thrown by Elton John and David Geffen. Reports conflict about her communication skills, but she does frequently utilize a wheelchair and/or gentleman callers on her arm to get around.

      Here she is last November at her own b’day party:

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a92d354061552fb0e5b2e21b56ecd4d399fb7c86295b5173c3a19b0bb8be40d8.jpg

  • Lazycrockett
  • safari

    Oh, Lawrence. You tease. Buy me a drink.
    https://twitter.com/Lawrence/status/969252545905528833

    • not a user 220000

      She got lucky~!

      • Natty Enquirer

        She snatched up quite a prize.

      • William

        She aced the oral exam.

    • Stogiebear

      Maybe slutty model really is one of the more highly skilled professions in Slovenia.

  • DaddyRay
    • safari

      “We will outlive you” is a powerful slogan.

  • killreligion

    Only stupid people cannot see that the mandate is the single most important part of health insurance. The freedom argument was aimed st dumb people

    No insurance?, pay cash before treatment then. It’s ridiculous the pretzelling they do to support freedumb arguments. It’s a risk POOL idiots

    • safari

      I’d just ask that paying cash is problematic. Our healthcare system has a hard time even estimating costs of things like pregnancy under “normal” conditions. Insurance warps everything.

      • safari

        (Not insurance in general; but insurance negotiated prices.)

        • killreligion

          Agreed. My point is if you argue that people don’t need insurance you don’t get card without paying. It’s a rhetorical statement

          Good news is the Aca makes it affordable for everyone. Single payer would solve the problem better of course.

      • not a user 220000

        You know what? Veterinarians have this thing down pat. Everyone pays cash on the barrel-head at 100% of billed rate, before the animal is returned to its owner, or it isn’t.(*)

        Not saying it would work for human healthcare, but there is some wisdom there.

        (*) There is also pet health insurance, but I have no idea how it works.

        • safari

          Except human life is in play. Punishing one for not being able to play is, in my mind, profoundly anti-human. And such moral judgements exist far outside the realms of capitalism.

          • Natty Enquirer

            As one would expect, since capitalism is largely an escape from moral concerns.

          • safari

            It certainly is a socially acceptable escape from moral concerns.

          • not a user 220000

            Details, details.

        • Talisman

          I had it. It covered a certain amount of each procedure/incident. It works on a reimbursement system – you send them your bill, and they sent you a check. I could also have them mail the check to the vet, if I needed to.

          I was the only one with pet insurance, and my vet was willing to work with me on billing because he knew he’d get at least part of the payment. I used other vets where that wasn’t the case.

          While it was fairly easy (especially once the pet insurance company started accepting emails), I would *not* want to deal with filing insurance for myself. It was still a hassle, and easy to forget, and there was no real recourse about the amount the insurance company chose to pay.

          • not a user 220000

            Thanks for the info, Talisman!

        • David Gervais

          Pet health insurance works like private human health insurance, lots of deductibles, limits and exemptions. Oh, and a large part of your payments go to profits instead of care.

          • Talisman

            VPI does not cover congenital disorders at all. If you have a pure-bred pet, that can be problematic. Basically, it’s the same as a pre-existing condition in humans.

            I initially got it because it was a perk offered by my company, and we got a 25% discount. After the company was bought out, the new corporate overlords dropped the benefit. I lost the discount, but kept the policy because I found it useful. I think by the time my dog passed, I was paying around 110 USD a month. There insurance consisted of a base policy that covered emergency procedures; an optional routine care rider to cover vaccinations, heartworm medication, flea treatments, office visits, and other regular things; and an optional cancer rider.

            From what I understand, the cost of vet care is much more stable than the cost of human care, because pet care rarely results in bankruptcy – if you can’t afford the treatment, you have the animal euthanized. The bankruptcy factor is a major factor in the reason the cost of human health care is so out of control.

      • not a user 220000

        Congress almost certainly has the authority to shut down the health insurance industry in one fell swoop, nationwide. Problem solved.

      • William

        There is ni heathcare menu to look at. The hospital doesn’t tally up the charges until they know your method of payment.

    • fuow

      They don’t care. And we didn’t vote in 2010 or 2014.

  • MikeBx2
  • Hank

    Scott Lloyd should be CASTRATED!!!!

  • Bambino

    O/T Not sure what to make of this. But I will definitely scan that hair for security clearance.
    https://twitter.com/alexbrucesmith/status/969335408310984705

    • safari

      I see cartoon. You watch cartoon. Nice.

      • not a user 220000

        Russian soldier and WAC traveling on train, and are seated in same compartment.
        R.S.: “Nize cow.”
        WAC: (Grunts.)
        R.S.: “Nize trees.”
        WAC: (Shrugs.)
        R.S.: “Enuff of dis loff-making–let’s fock!”

    • not a user 220000

      Who her hairdresser?

      • worstcultever

        Edward Scissorhands

        (and some of his nicest work)

      • Hue-Man

        That’s what happens when you live in a country with no gays!

    • worstcultever

      meh – hair, somewhat fun

      rest of it, don’t sense wild amounts of deep thinking

      • safari

        Peg Bundy. It’s big in the USSR.

        • worstcultever

          I actually do like the fuck-you sass in these pix. Maybe she’ll overthrow Pooty!

          • not a user 220000

            She is throwing major shade. Remember, this is Russia.

          • worstcultever

            She’s already a Golden Girl!

          • not a user 220000

            Talk about a ‘big mushroom head’! lol

        • Bambino
    • Cuberly Deux

      Wardrobe courtesy of the Alexis Kerrington line I see.

    • Stogiebear

      Someone in Hollywood needs to write an 18 season sci-fi space epic centered around a race of explorers with this ‘do.

      PS: Someone with wicked photoshop skills should turn that into and equally Persian-lamb-like cowboy hat.

    • KnownDonorDad
  • gaycuckhubby
    • safari

      Hope Hicks reads McMaster’s name. She smiles and crosses it off her list.

      (Stolen from a long-running joke.)

  • Cuberly Deux

    Ok, talibanjelical creep alarm just blew up. Damn, Lloyd is one messed up young man.

  • Hank
  • DaddyRay

    “I’m a middle aged, potbellied lesbian that probably will never have a child but I have a crossword puzzle”
    Rachel Maddow

    • Lazycrockett

      I thought she was going to drop a “Fuck” she was so excited.

    • safari

      “I’m a childless, middle aged pot-belled lesbian and don’t have that much to be excited about, in my life except for having this great job. This is kind of it. There will never be a baby. But I have a crossword puzzle.”

    • Bryan

      Omg, she was so cute.

    • TrollopeReader

      i’ve never seen the pot-belly … but MA has some great breweries !!

  • Lazycrockett
    • not a user 220000

      Does three years’ detention without a bail hearing shock the conscience? Hell fucking yes.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      “You’ve got… camps!”

    • William

      Welcome to Limbo.

  • safari
    • Lumpy Gaga

      The Olympics: Darker, Gayer, Uncut

  • safari
    • SoCalGal20

      Yeah, knew that was going to happen.

    • Lazycrockett

      He got 3 scoops!!!

    • Cuberly Deux

      Probably the only time you’d see psychopath mob boss LaPierre beg.

    • Lazycrockett
      • Bryan

        He is certifiable.

      • safari

        So many words.

      • Cuberly Deux

        …and here’s my shocked face.

      • safari

        I’ll wait for him saying democrats are afraid of the NRA… in the next 12 hours.

      • Bryan

        You had it right earlier: what he said to the Congressional reps became null and void as soon as the words came out of his mouth.

    • not a user 220000

      Most tone-deaf moment in history.

  • boobert

    It cost $200 bucks to fix a $350 laptop that was screwed up by a windows 10 update that was eating drivers. The last time , it was a windows 7 that I did a “free” update to 10 and it ate the hard drive. I hate microsoft ! lol

    • safari

      If everyone switched to “free” software, this wouldn’t be so expensive.

    • Lazycrockett

      Id buy an external hard drive keep everything on that and when shit goes down, just reinstall a fresh windows 10. Its way cheaper.

      • boobert

        I tried that , but it kept reinstalling the faulty update. At least I’m covered for a year.

    • boobert

      I tried to use my old vista laptop to keep up with you guys, but you can’t get an updated browser for vista and the page wouldn’t load. The guy said to try and find a copy of windows 7 with the verification code.

      • William

        You can buy a Windows 7 key and CD on eBay.

        • Lazycrockett

          you can just torrent it also.

    • Tulle Christensen

      I cannot even imagine, I have enough background to fix the hardware and software myself. That makes my friends and family very happy, but when I am working on fixing computer problems I often think how can someone without a computer science degree deal with this crap

      • Lazycrockett

        There is nothing like building your own rig.

        • Tulle Christensen

          putting together your own hardware is a piece of cake, getting windows running correctly again after one of Microsoft’s major “updates” is a nightmare

          Plus the updates never seem to add anything I find useful
          One Drive anyone?
          Creators update?
          nothing in those I wanted, The creators update replaced some of my up to date drivers with older ones (GPU and sound) that did not work right causing me to have to spend a few hours fixing it

          • Hue-Man

            I have tried a number of times to kill Cortana – without success. It lurks in Task Manager, using up (limited resources) and contributes nothing. I would also like to make OneDrive disappear completely so I don’t have to think about it.

            On the positive side, I’ve been lucky going through the Windows 10 updates without problem – I know I may incur wrath of the Microsoft gods for saying that!

          • Tulle Christensen

            you really cannot really safely completely get rid of them (also true of the hideous edge browser) but you can make it so you never see them, I never see them, the Microsoft support web pages can help you out with that

          • Hue-Man

            Done that but can’t stop it from using up resources. Tried regedit solutions but they didn’t kill it either. Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, etc.

            I would have been happy if they’d stuck with Windows 95!

          • Tulle Christensen

            My mistake was pressing the “update other software” button during the update, who would have thought that included putting old drivers on my system

      • William

        I am my tech support department.

        • safari

          Tech support 101:

          (1) Identify something on the screen with a name and problem in words and numbers.

          (2) Google it.

          (3) You win.

          • Tulle Christensen

            Everyone this is the best advice I have ever seen for computer issues

            yay safari

    • Hank

      That is why I stick with Apple!!! It may be more expensive initially, but they last longer and the OS gives no significant problems!!!

      • boobert

        I keep saying next time will be a mac. I think I’m there, lol.

        • Hank

          My G-5 is 10 years old and still works. I can no longer update the OS, but email, internet, creating documents still are possible. I have a MacMini now and a MacBook Air all @ 5 years old

        • safari

          My 2010 mac is still running.

      • KarenAtFOH

        Even on my Macbook Pro, I decline automatic updates until I am sure the new OS has the bugs wrung out, and I have a fresh backup in the can.

        • Hank

          Agreed. I use SuperDuper to back up nightly to an external Hard drive. Neo-Office costs @ $10/year if you want to update it. It is basically the same as Office

    • The best thing I ever did to my mom’s laptop is figure out how to stop those nagging Windows 10 forced updates by eliminating registry entries. Windows 10 is one big virus.

      • safari

        But it will eventually be the only Windows.

        • Microsoft has said they will support Windows 7 until 2020 I believe — I have two years to deal with what I am going to do with her laptop. Maybe a Mac which she used to use.

  • SoCalGal20

    So Hope Hicks supposedly kept a diary of her WH conversations and meetings. And now we have this. 🙂

    https://twitter.com/rvawonk/status/969408456015958016?s=21

    https://twitter.com/normeisen/status/969396784899346432?s=21

    • Hank

      May it only be as GOOD as the Nixon TAPES!!!!

    • jimbo65

      Figures that his diarrhea of the mouth will be his ultimate undoing.

    • boobert

      Along with a blue dress that has assorted cum stains on it , lol.

  • SoCalGal20
    • Lumpy Gaga

      Wasn’t AF Rick Gates’ post-WH gig?

  • SoCalGal20
    • Bryan

      How about “NRA Benevolent Member” David Clarke Jr.

      https://twitter.com/SheriffClarke/status/675022833806897153

      • TampaDink

        As the then Sheriff of Milwaukee County, what the fuck was he doing in Russia speaking about the Middle East? Seriously, he just went there to pick up a few more baubles to over decorate his uniform with.

        • not a user 220000

          boondoggle?

          • TampaDink

            As good of a reason as any I can imagine.

          • not a user 220000

            “Congressional Fact-Finding Mission”

      • Bryan

        That is: NRA Benevolent Member slash Trump surrogate…

      • That Russian soldier just said “Sorry bozo, if you think you can go down on my пенис for $100 American you are псих!

        • not a user 220000

          There’s a soldier next to him who will hear and say, ‘Please, bozo, US$100 ok!’

        • JCF

          I was thinking something similar.

  • bkmn
  • worstcultever

    Has Trump died yet?

    (k, back to Agatha Christie then)

    • Mickey Bitsko

      I love Dame Agatha. A few of her lesser known titles concerning the Huckster:

      “Fascism on the Arkansas Express”
      “The GFY Murders”
      “The Hypocritical Pandering Asshole at the Vicarage”
      “Five Little Chickenhawk Pigs”
      “Murder on the Stinks”

      😉

  • KarenAtFOH

    Hey Hatch job, this dumbass person thinks your the biggest fuckweasel on the planet.

  • Blake J Butler
    • bkmn

      Successful country artists are well aware that they got where they are with the help of LGBT supporting people, whether hair stylists, PR people, studio engineers, etc. Nice to see them stand up to that fatass Fuckaflea.

    • Natty Enquirer
      • safari

        What I like about Jim Nabors is that both the right and the left like him. The right is disarmed (“He never shoved it down my throat, his homosexuality.”) and the left is like “Yay, camp!”.

        • safari

          As for me. I snark at the conservatives liking camp.

          • safari

            Ho-mo-sex-u-al camp.

          • not a user 220000

            Is there any other kind?

          • safari

            I need to embrace camp more to find out. It’s not my native mode.

          • fuzzybits
          • safari

            Perhaps, one day.

          • not a user 220000

            That is a fabulous hat! Truly one of the finest I have seen in quite some time

          • not a user 220000

            Do you really think it is anyone’s ‘native mode’? Serious question. I think maybe camp is learned.

          • safari

            I do. Some people are more likely to embrace the absurd and identify in a realm beyond what one would consider normal. This isn’t a fault or a problem, it’s just a way they are. Bigger than life, I feel. It’s more a personality trait an identity when it comes down to it, in my opinion.

          • safari

            And identity isn’t the right word, either. They can be one in the same.

          • not a user 220000

            But isn’t camp part of the expression as well?

          • safari

            Of course. But we all express.

          • not a user 220000

            So, like a pixieish spirit within us… Yeah, I could be persuaded of that.

            [Edit: Maybe ‘lurking’ is not the right word, because it has pejorative connotation.]

          • not a user 220000

            Yes, on reflection, I do think it is part of one’s native mode.

  • Lazycrockett

    “What is this Mean Girls” – David Frum on The Drumpf Administration.

  • Mickey Bitsko

    And lo on the seventh day Kolob asked, “Who’s this Orrin Hatch schmuck?”

  • Kevin Andrews

    The Christ-O-Fascist howls some more. Must be his magic underpants are all bunched up in a wad. Medicare for all is the quickest and cleanest you greedy doddering old dinosaur.
    Of course I agree because Obamacare was the Republican response to Hillarycare in the 90s and here we are the ONLY industrial nation without health care as a right. These greedy scum of the earth are owned by the Insurance Fat-Cats who’ve stolen wealth from America’s Main Street for too damned long.

    • not a user 220000

      well said

  • bkmn

    I wonder how much money Hatch has taken under the table over the years, both from the supplement industry and others

    • Cuberly Deux

      He’s mormon, money hoarding is their religion.

  • Lumpy Gaga
  • crewman

    I’m starting to think Putin’s shocking announcement of a new generation of nuclear weapons that could bypass all defenses, was a propaganda gift to Trump to try to distract us from the Russia investigation.

    • bkmn

      And to nuke manufacturers.

  • Lazycrockett
    • bkmn

      The kids from Parkland who are standing up, in spite of what they went through are the new leaders and we need to thank them and protect them.

  • safari

    O/T: I think I figured out my grandma’s salad. Marinate the non-lettuce in a vinegar and tarragon + oregano marinade. Throw over iceberg lettuce and toss.

    • not a user 220000

      I would just add, ‘Dress the bowl, not the salad.’

      • safari

        I… don’t know what that means.

        • Natty Enquirer

          It’s something silly like “spray the cologne into the air and then walk into it.”

          • safari

            Grandma took the dressing and *smothered*. The lettuce had a short lifespan.

          • Lazycrockett

            Mamaw’s salad dressing consisted of bacon grease, sugar, and vinegar.

          • safari

            I prepared a wilted salad once for my former roommate and her boyfriend. The bacon grease scared him.

          • not a user 220000

            Was it spinach with bacon grease? That is delicious

          • safari

            It was.

          • TampaDink

            Mmm. I’m not patient enough to make my own salad dressings (usually) but Trader Joe’s sells a Sweet Vidalia Bacon Vinaigrette that is pretty excellent when served warm over a spinach salad. (I always add extra bacon to those salads, just for good measure….to quote one of my idols, Ouiser Boudreaux, I can’t get enough grease into my diet!)

          • safari

            I’m a firm believe that saturated fat isn’t the problem. Sugar and calories are.

          • TampaDink

            “Calories, calories!” ~Belle Marmillion, Steel Magnolias

          • not a user 220000

            No, no, it’s real. It just means don’t dump the dressing over the top of the lettuce, but spread or splash or whatever around the inside rim of the bowl, then toss.

          • safari

            I’ll have to try the method. Thanks.

        • not a user 220000

          Splash the dressing on the inside surface of the bowl, rather than dumping it over the top of the greens.

          • Dayglo

            Some chefs will rub garlic cloves and olive oil over the interior of bowl for starters.

    • TampaDink

      Have you tried tarragon vinegar? It’s pretty delicious.

      • safari

        I haven’t because up until now I *hated* tarragon.

        It’s got an anise flavor, which I should love, but I never found it palatable. It’s grown on me.

        • TampaDink

          Funny how our palates refine & find new things that didn’t appeal when we & our palates were younger.

    • Ann Kah

      Vinegar, oil, basil, black pepper, sugar; artificial sweetener will do in a pinch. Toss with diced veggies (tomato, cuke, the leafy bits of celery, bell pepper, a little onion, and whatever else you can find in the fridge), not lettuce. The last one I made had some red cabbage in it, giving a lovely pink dressing. Make plenty; it won’t overdo the veggies as it’s not creamy, and you can drink that last spoonful in the bottom of the bowl.

      • safari

        *claps*

    • greenmanTN

      You should try what is locally called Kilt Lettuce and Onion. (Kilt means killed.) Chop uncooked bacon and fry it in a skillet, then add sliced red onion, pepper, and vinegar to the bacon and its oil, then pour it still hot over your lettuce or spinach to wilt it. I always add crumbled pecans and bit of brown sugar to it too.

      https://www.electroluxappliances.com/live-love-lux/killed-lettuce-with-bacon-and-egg/

  • Charles Nelson

    Hatch should immediately demand that NASA begin a project so that right-thinking Mormons can book a flight to the planet Kolob.

    • not a user 220000

      lollol

  • Chris Bartlett

    this from a dude that has NEVER had to ever worry about health coverage.
    And will never have to worry about it until the day he dies.
    And frankly, that cant come soon enough for me.

    • TampaDink

      On a more positive note, each passing hour brings him ever closer to his long overdue dirt nap. If he were to assume room temperature by morning, I would have nothing but nice things to say about him. ;-p

  • bkmn
    • safari

      The chocolate rations have changed.

      • safari

        As short a time ago as February, the Ministry of Plenty had issued a promise (a “categorical pledge” were the official words) that there would be no reduction of the chocolate ration during 1984. Actually, as Winston was aware, the chocolate ration was to be reduced from thirty grams to twenty at the end of the present week. All that was needed was to substitute for the original promise a warning that it would probably be necessary to reduce the ration at some time in April.

    • bkmn
  • bkmn
    • Ann Kah

      Their “arms race” against America has been going on for a long time, and American gun-lovers are complicit in our destruction.

  • gaycuckhubby
  • not a user 220000

    Good night ladies and gents. I will soon turn into a pumpkin….

    • safari

      Sleep well.

    • bkmn

      At which time I would puree you with sugar, cinnamon, cloves, allspice and roast you in the oven at high heat before combining you with milk and eggs to make a tasty pumpkin pie.

      * Pumpkin pie concept courtesy of Ruth Reichl

      • not a user 220000

        Ruth Reichl is usually an unimpeachable source; but in this case,
        try Paul Prudhomme’s’s recipe for Sweet-Potato Pecan Pie. I can virtually guarantee you will never eat pumpkin pie again, if you do try it.
        https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/6235-paul-prudhommes-sweet-potato-pecan-pie

        • bkmn

          Unfortunately I hate pecan pie, can’t stand how sweet it is. Will stick with Ruth and pumpkin.

          • not a user 220000

            This is not “pecan pie,” but to each her/his own, of course.

    • Natty Enquirer

      No, no, no. It’s the coach that turns into a pumpkin. I don’t know where this Cinderella mishmash got started.

      • not a user 220000

        Coach was washing his jockstraps last night

  • DaddyRay

    Melania Trump entered US with ‘Einstein’ visa designated for people with ‘extraordinary ability’
    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/melania-trump-entered-us-apos-154111962.html

    I wonder what her “extraordinary ability’ was

    • safari

      I know a gent with that status. He is a brilliant man. But so absent minded. Like, “Hey, you’re driving the wrong way!”

      “Only for a little while,” he finishes.

      Multiple publications in top journals and a field he can sit at which he is the center. He forgot to renew his visa while back in Europe. Thankfully, NASA came through and granted him such a status.

      He had many publications and a field of research to back him up.

    • Lazycrockett

      Russian Operative.

    • Natty Enquirer

      She can pick up bowling pins with both hands tied behind her back?

      • bkmn

        Not sure if that would do it for Trump. If she can suck pencil erasers, that is another thing.

    • Bryan

      She can tolerate being in the presence of Trump for longer than 30 minutes without spontaneously combusting?

  • gaycuckhubby

    Expect this to be a big story tomorrow…

    https://twitter.com/MaxBoot/status/969427353465245696?s=19

    • bkmn

      Unless Trump forcibly removes McMaster or Sessions tomorrow to overshadow the story.

      • gaycuckhubby

        Trump will use this to say the FBI is corrupt.

        • safari

          Some of the FBI is corrupt.

          • gaycuckhubby

            Yep. And it was against Hillary and in favor of trump. But those facts don’t matter, he will use it to try to invalidate the special investigator

          • safari

            I can counter my own field of reference since I am like one step away from knowing a regional director.

          • Lazycrockett

            Naw this story broke like 3 this afternoon, its already dead and buried.

          • safari

            Madonna was wrong about time.

          • Lazycrockett

            I don’t listen to Madonna.

          • safari

            Pity.

          • gaycuckhubby

            Really? The Department of Justice is expected to make an announcement tomorrow

          • Lazycrockett

            Well come to Drumpf’s Murica. Plus its Friday.

          • gaycuckhubby

            True dat

          • SoCalGal20

            It will be revived tomorrow when the report actually comes out.

            Unless Trump goes off on some crazy rant about something else or on a whim tries to further destroy the economy by declaring he’s leaving NAFTA or imposing more tarrifs or something.

          • Cuberly Deux

            I doubt they’re for Trump now.

          • gaycuckhubby

            Probably not. But the FBI started this whole mess in 2016. They certainly share a big portion of blame

          • Cuberly Deux

            Yep.

          • SoCalGal20

            Looking at you, NYC office!!!

        • Cuberly Deux

          Yep, and his yippy poodle Nunes is going to run with it as well.

  • Dot Beech

    When he dies, they must not forget to remove his head and drive a stake through his heart.

    • safari

      I’m of favor of yesteryear’s “pike through the skull and display”.

      Just for posterity sake.

      • Bryan

        We’re in absolute agreement on this method of punishment.

  • DaddyRay

    REI Suspends Contract With Outdoor Company Over Gun Sales

    “It is the job of companies that manufacture and sell guns and ammunition to work towards common sense solutions,” REI said.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rei-guns-vista-outdoor_us_5a98b2a4e4b0479c0250e38b

  • Jalapeño Business

    And to think he may be the next president if the dirt in the current line of succession spreads past Pence and Ryan.

    • safari

      Are you… real?

      • Jalapeño Business

        The current line of presidential succession is Pence / Ryan / Hatch. Anything is possible in an impeachment scenario.

        • safari
        • DaddyRay

          If we win the House and the Impeachment happen after next January then whomever is elected speaker of the house could be the next President if Trump and Pence both Impeached.
          We could be talking President Pelosi but I am sure if we take the house there will be and epic battle for Speaker

          • Jalapeño Business

            Yep, I mentioned that earlier today.

          • DaddyRay

            I liked what someone mentioned a couple of months ago of having Hillary run for a House seat and be voted Speaker then after the Impeachments she could step right into the Presidency

          • DaddyRay

            Joe Biden was also mentioned – either would work for me

          • Jalapeño Business

            That what surely trigger the zombie apocalypse.

          • DaddyRay

            The only concern I have for Pelosi is she might pull a GWB move and say “we will not seek criminal charges” when speaking of going after GWB for war crimes

          • Impeachment is possible, but removal from office takes 67 Senators or 2/3 of the Senate. Even if the Dems win every single Senate seat up in November — including Utah (Romney) they will only have 57 seats. 10 Republicans Senators are not going to vote to remove Trump and Pence from office at the same time, even if Dems win every single Senate seat up in November. That is why only 8 (or 9) officials have been impeached AND removed in over two centuries of the Republic under our constitution – and only in all parties agree, and never for a President.

          • Max_1

            There’s gonna need to be a whole lotta convincing to sway 10…

          • If the House does vote to impeach, odds are some red state Democratic Senators will not vote to remove Trump from office — like Manchin from West Virginia (if he is reelected in 2018), or Dems who are up in 2020. But- if the Dems do take Congress this November, I think Impeachment is inevitable if Trump does not resign before. All it takes is a simple majority. He needs to stand trial in the Senate. It would be irresponsible for him not to be impeached, even if he is not removed. If Bill Clinton was impeached for a bj, Trump should be impeached for treason with the Russkies and running a business out of the White House as President among other things

          • Max_1

            Midterms in November…
            Electronic vote systems are hackable.
            This is why Congress is dragging their heels.
            This is why Trump keeps denying the hacks.
            7 states. Voter rolls hacked PRIOR to the election.
            Alaska, Arizona, California, Florida, Illinois, Texas and Wisconsin.
            https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/u-s-intel-russia-compromised-seven-states-prior-2016-election-n850296

            Who’s State is next?

          • CharlestonDave

            well, Clinton was actually impeached for lying under oath about the BJ, but I suppose that’s a technicality. Trump voters are likely to view any amount of evidence, Everest-of-iron though it may be, as wicked efforts by the deep-staters or liberal media or whoever is the boogeyman of the day to attack their guy. Senators from states with a lot of Trump voters will be cautious of looking like they gave in.

            One thing I’ve not seen gamed out is what happens if Trump wins the impeachment trial and continues in office, vengefully tweeting hourly how he’s been vindicated and that proves everyone else is a #LOSER and there was #NOCOLLUSION. How painful would THAT be?!? Would Russia even need fancy new weapons? We’d already be destroyed as a nation.

    • bkmn

      Holy Jalapeno…long time no see. Been missed

    • Nah cause the 25th amendment means that a new VP will be appointed by a simply majority of both houses in the event of a vacancy — like Ford and Rockefeller were. (I left a comment earlier in the thread). It does not even take 2/3 of the Senate.

      • Jalapeño Business

        That’s one option.

    • Cuberly Deux
    • SoCalGal20

      Jalapeño!!!!!

    • Treant

      (licks pepper) Tastes like him…

      • safari

        I need more flavor

        • Jalapeño Business

          Where’s Sammy? He will vouch for me. We spent Fesitivus weekend together in Boca.

          https://media.giphy.com/media/26tP7KeVUwKH5Y8SY/giphy.gif

          • safari

            *hugs*

          • You’re my neighbor then! I am in Delray!

          • Jalapeño Business

            It was just a weekend getaway. I’m currently in a bunker somewhere in the Blue Ridge Mountains of SW VA.

          • JCF

            Hey, my peeps (father’s side) are from there! Ever heard of a wide place in the road called “Rural Retreat”?

          • Jalapeño Business

            Yep. I had a Grindr hookup there once. Or twice.

          • Bryan

            This bunker of which you speak….would it happen to have giant gear-shaped hermetically-sealed doors? Is.. there a waiting list somewhere?

          • Jalapeño Business

            It’s closer to “airstream trailer behind a liquor store” than bunker. But I was a realtor once, so I know how to word things for maximum impact.

          • Bryan

            So to understand you correctly: There WON’T be any bizarre experiments being performed FOR SCIENCE within that one would need prior alerting to, before donning one of the bunker’s savvy and minimalist uniforms?

          • Jalapeño Business
          • Bryan

            I’d trust butt-probing aliens over Vault-Tek any day – more likely to get plugged into an orgasmatron.

    • houstonray

      Jalapeno is back? WOO HOO!

  • fuzzybits
    • CharlestonDave

      OK, how about this…we ‘merricans declare war on Canada, lose, Canada takes over, and Justin is president of North and South Canada. Does that work?

  • Ninja0980

    Orrin Hatch is an asshole and always has been.

    • safari

      Yes. Jalapeno Business’s emergence distracts me.

      • Jalapeño Business

        I’ve been popping in from time to time. I just don’t think anyone recognized me in my nuclear winter fallout suit.

        • safari

          You left an unfillable impression.

          • Jalapeño Business

            I was in WITSEC for some time after the apocalypse election. Since I’m among friends, I can share that I picked up genital warts from Josh Duggar while at a wilderness retreat in Utah. It was dark and everyone was wearing Mardi Gras masks. Don’t ask.

          • safari

            (As is the legend. Eyes Wide Shut, but more glitter)

        • TampaDink

          Some of us are just shickled titless that you’ve returned.

        • DaddyRay

          Certainly glad to have you back. The epic battle between you and candidate Sam_Handwich was fun but it really was the intelligent commentary that we all enjoyed

  • OT- Jason Chaffetz should show more respect. BTW muslim students are a substantial minority there also and people get along together — its a model of diversity. The shooting victims were all religions.
    https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/02/28/foxs-jason-chaffetz-parkland-shooting-survivors-need-belief-god-and-jesus-christ/219520
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c65158e8c10e5b8e849478ae63cf63cd755c971cf4b08b1ff340fced1426ad41.jpg

    • bkmn

      It would be a real shame if Chafednutz led to Mueller investigating Fox for collusion with Russia and the NRA. Cause none of these criminal orgs have nothing in common.

      • Its just a hurtful thing for him to say. Not with all the funerals going on here.

        • bkmn

          Damn right. He has no honorable bone in his body

    • Jalapeño Business

      His official government email address was JasonInDaHouse. I don’t think we’re moving to that neighborhood any time soon.

    • zhera

      WTF! What an assbag!

      Does that go for the people who survived church shootings as well, Chaffetz? Or is it only these particular survivors?

  • Snarky

    He seems nice.

  • zhera

    My back in hurting and I can’t sleep. Also, I’m sad. Brother and wife are breaking up. I don’t know what to do. 🙁

    • safari

      Nothing you can do. It really sucks for all involved. And it hurts. The only thing you can do is *listen*. No advice is likely required, just hear.

      • JCF

        What safari said.

      • zhera

        They’ve got things sorted out pretty well, I think. The kids will stay in the house like before, while brother and SIL will take turns living in the house and living in an apartment. They’re putting the kids first.

        My brother and I grew up without a dad so I think my brother will be extra sensitive to the kids’ emotional state. My mom is heart-broken, though.

    • bkmn

      Can’t comment on the family issues but if you have access to CBD lotions/oils/creams I hope you can get some for your back.

      • zhera

        I don’t have access to anything with cannabis. Wish I had; it could help with my more chronic pain issues.

    • JCF

      {{{zhera and fam}}}

    • TampaDink

      Hang in there….hope that the back pain can be dealt with enough to allow you some sleep.

    • Cuberly Deux

      Sorry Zhera.

      Have you been taking anything for your back?

      • zhera

        Haven’t taken anything. I think I may have been sleeping in an awkward position, using a new pillow. Now it feels like I’ve been moving boxes all day.

        • Cuberly Deux

          I have a knee issue that flares up now and again. Discovered the joys of PM pain meds like Advil PM. It helps quite a bit.

        • David Walker

          Sorry to hear about your brother and his wife. I have words of incredible wisdom to offer.

          Safari has a good point about resting on a hard surface for a half hour or so. I’ve discovered a self-hypnosis trick that helps me get to sleep when I can’t otherwise. Get back in bed and picture yourself on top of a kind of long escalator, step on it, and as you descend, count backwards from 10 with “sleep” or “rest” between the numbers. It’ll take a couple of trips, but you’l wind up in dreamland. Maybe a little fragile sleep at first, but it’s the best of several exercises for me.

          Or see if the booze shop is open and go shopping.

    • Ninja0980

      Just relax for the first and listen on the second.

    • gaycuckhubby

      Oh, that sucks 🙁
      My brother went through a divorce years ago… it’s surprising how much it can affect you. Some of the issues they had were similar to ones my husband and I have had. The good news is it gave us an opportunity to work on ourselves.

      The best to you and your brother

    • safari

      I find when my back hurts, acutely, if I lie on a hard or hard-carpted floor for a half hour or so (podcast-length, really), it helps relax it.

    • I have a ruptured disc that acts up and is super painful — and the doctor does not want me getting cortisone shots this year – he said that he does not want me (quote) “turning into a human pin cushion”. So what works is exercise and when pain acts up I take 2 tramadols (50 mg) which is the strongest pain killer I can use — I cannot use anything stronger , gives me nightmares and makes me itch. I think they are called ultram, doctor gave me a script for them and they are not addictive for me but really work. Been using them occasionally for a while now.

      • zhera

        Ugh, sounds horrible.
        My pain is fortunately just muscular. If it doesn’t get better over the weekend I’ll ask my doctor for some meds.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Ok….minor rant.

    Have been watching a fair amount of TCM lately and noticed something. They’ve really done an excellent job at finding and restoring older prints. The digital cleanup on them has been so noticeable, not a bad thing. In a way it’s like rediscovering them.

    • Treant

      They really have. I’ve seen movies from the thirties that looked crisp and new, it’s amazing!

      • David Walker

        One of the theaters decided it wanted to be a revival house and bring back movies of the ’30s and ’40s. Organ concert, cartoons, newsreel, previews, feature. Usually the original had had a long, rough run Way Back. The movies were full of splices and lines and they were not all that fun to watch. I stopped going, however, when the title sequence to “Wuthering Heights” was so badly chopped up that the title music was practically intelligible. It’s one of my favorite themes, and to hear it like that…well, we got up and left. God knows what the rest of the print was like. Hats off to digital.

        • Treant

          I was up very, very late one night (like that’s unusual with my oddball schedule) and was watching Barbara Stanwyck in “Night Nurse,” from 1931.

          That damn thing was crystal clear and the audio was crisp and easy to understand. I couldn’t believe it; the cleanup was near-perfect.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Seems like it’s all decades, all across the board. Currently watching Ice Station Zebra and it’s only showing it’s age by the actors long since gone.

        I forgot Rock Hudson was such a big guy.

        • David Walker

          They should be well into their Month of Oscars by now.

          • Cuberly Deux

            Yep, they are. And I’m having quite the binge-fest too…lol…

    • William

      The last time i saw ‘Rebecca’ on tv, it was blurry and jittery. I hope it has been remastered.

      • Cuberly Deux

        If I see it on the schedule I’ll let you know.

        So far I’ve been on a binge, adding quite a bit to the dvr record list.

        • David Walker

          I still miss Robert Osborne…he WAS TCM for me. But I’m still there a couple of times a week…I have to have my black-and-white fix and that’s the most reliable place to find it.

          • Cuberly Deux

            I miss him too. Speaking of b&w fix Dark Victory was on the other day.

    • Dayglo

      TMC did an amazing restoration of Fellini’s “Juliet of the Spirits.” It was jaw-droppingly gorgeous in high-def.

    • Hue-Man

      Reminds me of this story from a few years ago.
      Freeze frame: Film uses century-old footage dug up from within Yukon permafrost
      Filmmaker’s new doc tells story of buried film reels from end of Klondike Gold Rush era

      It starts in the 1920s, when the fading, gold-rush town [of Dawson City, Yukon] was the end of the road for movies and newsreels sent from down south to screen at Dawson’s cinema.

      Hundreds of film reels — silent films, travelogues — were never sent
      back south, and so were simply burned or tossed into the Yukon River for
      years after the end of the gold rush.

      http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/dawson-city-frozen-time-film-archives-1.3776181

  • Ninja0980

    Looks like I missed some good stuff tonight but the hubby and I decided to have a night to ourselves instead of staying on the computer.
    Especially since we’ll be trapped in the house for the next day or two due to the storm.

    • safari

      enjoy

    • safari

      I have strange soup in storage in the freezer. I think it is bean soup from my grandmother. I’m thawing it. Wish (us) luck.

      • safari

        She was ill recently. Her doctor had a heart attack during her duration in the hospital. She’s part of the “young” group at church, she tells me.

        • whollyfool

          She’s doing better now?

      • Cuberly Deux

        How was your overnight roast experiment?

  • DaddyRay
    • safari
      • JCF

        And then exactly one year later…the End of the World.

        • Max_1

          If you want a glimpse into the future…
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avHo0-qU8xo

          • Lars Littlefield

            Howard of Hong Kong. I dated him once. After we had sex I was horny again an hour later.

          • Moebym of the Returners

            I love the mid-century furnishings and architecture.

          • Max_1

            They attempted to introduce a flip phone back then…
            … But the only shipment got lost in the great rocket delivery disaster of ’68.

      • Dayglo

        “I’ll need 300 copies of the report on my desk by 8 am,” said everyone’s boss.

    • JCF

      Good dog! [Sorta good pup!]

    • Lumpy Gaga

      “What part of ‘sit’ don’t you understand?”

  • gaycuckhubby

    I’m assuming this means that the pivoting has begun?
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/969408165308747777?s=19

    • safari

      There can only be a pivot.

      • JCF

        And oh so many new graves…

        • safari

          There is an abandoned town in the upper peninsula based upon coal mining into a cliff. (Cliff, MI). The graveyard stands by locals, surrounded by an iron fence with pickets. The gravesites have sank, visibly.

          It is where I think of with burials, as opposed to my living grandparents: “Look at this diorama: don’t open the case. The photos and ashes and container are just so.”

          • safari

            I’d rather we all be part of long-forgotten remains than a library.

    • Jalapeño Business

      Well, that didn’t take long.

  • JCF

    Rachel, so GIDDY over her NYT crossword puzzle tomorrow! 😀 “I’m a middle-aged, pot-bellied [sure you are] lesbian. I will never have a baby . . . but I will have this!”

    LOL. Congrats, Rachel. I feel fairly certain there are FEW people to whom it will mean more than to you. ;-/

    • David Walker

      That was hilarious. I like crossword puzzles, but I’m not that good. I do congratulate her, however. It IS a major accomplishment, and to do it in her many of hours of free time…amazing.

  • Brooklyn Joe

    Considering he’s got free healthcare for the rest of his life – wtf does he care

  • OT- Did everyone see Adam on Ellen today?
    Adam needs his own talk show.
    https://youtu.be/GbrueARGMhE

    • Jalapeño Business

      He’s adorable.

    • SoCalGal20

      I love him!

    • CharlestonDave

      If Oprah launched Dr. Phil, surely Ellen could get the gay boy a hot mess reality show around his life. 🙂

  • Dayglo

    Orrin Hatch, your time’s most definitely up.

  • SDG

    So now, since we have the Cheeto in Chief, it’s open season for all members of Congress to have a potty mouth. Nice!

  • Lazycrockett

    K it was a good Grace story line on tonight Wil & Grace.

    • Lars Littlefield

      What? No one saw the X Files last night? The revenge of technology. One of the best episodes ever made.?

    • gaycuckhubby

      I thought this new season started out pretty strong, but has kind of faded. Glad to hear you say the latest one was good

  • Marides48

    Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

  • JCF

    OT: ZOMG, BenDeLaCreme sent herself home tonight!!!! [RPDR AllStars3] https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/81e0ba1ba327cb2b9f1fafc29d0edadea59082a915b9cda85a7e122fbbe75b92.gif Noooo, DeLa I love you! <3

    • gaycuckhubby

      What???? No!!!!

    • JCF

      It was shocking…but then on the other hand, it wasn’t. The “All Stars Rules” REALLY had been getting to DeLa (giving another queen “the chop”). Adding the pressure of adding an eliminated queen back in this week, and DeLa had just had it. She’d won so many challenges; she was clearly the favorite, along w/ Bebe, to go all the way. But DeLa didn’t win Miss Congeniality on her season for nothing. She was just too nice for this competition, and in taking herself out, she showed it.

      Condragulations, DeLa, you’ll ALWAYS be a winner—and an All Star—baby!

      • gaycuckhubby

        I have a friend who knows her. Says she’s a swetheart irl

    • Michael R

      SPOILERT !!!

      • JCF

        Sorry, Michael.

    • SpiderPIG

      Sheesh, I haven’t watched it yet.
      Isn’t there spoiler tags or something?
      I’m already avoiding FB and twitter to avoid spoilers, I thought JMG would be safe.

  • AstroCat

    That should go over well with Romney in Utah.

  • Max_1
  • Mark Cross

    I was an active Latter-day Saint (aka a Mormon) for 17 years, from age 11 to age 28. My mother got me into it in New York, of all places, when I was very young, and I didn’t know any better. Mormonism was one of her phases for about 6 months, but it parasitized my vulnerable, abused, and traumatized young mind. And it took me 17 years to escape that labyrinth, that brainwashing, that cult programming. In those 17 years, I checked all the boxes a good little brainwashed Mormon boy should check: I obtained the rank of Eagle Scout at age 15, I served a 2-year mission to Ecuador at age 19, at age 23 I married my high school sweetheart from my Mormon congregation in the temple, and at age 24 I graduated from Brigham Young University with a bachelor’s degree. I lived in Utah (aka “Zion”) for a total of 8 years.
    So as long as we’re making blanket statements about entire groups, Orrin, it is with some authority, via life experience, that I can respond to you that some of the “stupidest dumbass”, most closed-minded, non-thinking, judgemental and hypocritical people I have ever met have been the Mormons I met in Utah.
    But Orrin, I suspect you already know that, because they’ve been electing you all these years.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3c3798fa5847fe72ca7fb9310dae84e719f3419606bd13fae5fe7cc66f052cf8.gif

    • medaka

      Bravo. Please re-post this in any and all future Mormon/Orrin threads.

    • JCF

      {{{Mark}}}

      I was good friends w/ many Mormons as an adolescent (it seems many gravitate towards music, in which I was very active in school). I could see how I could have gotten sucked in . . . but I am (for the approx. billionth time) oh so grateful my Episcopal upbringing (the rationalistic humanism in which I was formed there) threw up so many red flags re the LDS. Friends, yes. Join that hivemind? Not on your life! [NB: this was before I understood myself to be queer—my POV on the “Morons” has only soured since…]

  • OT-
    I had to wake up early.
    My next door neighbor asked me to drive her to the hospital for a same day hemorrhoid operation.
    So in honor of her surgery, here is the famous comedy skit from In Living Color, Hermorid Guy!
    https://youtu.be/02eAuclXcZ4

    • billbear1961

      You’re a good neighbour, Eddi!

    • Harveyrabbit

      What, she couldn’t ride a bike?

    • BobSF_94117

      Is the alternative a multiple-day hemorrhoid operation?

  • billbear1961

    The Sovereign Authority, which is the Will of the PEOPLE, rises superior to all else in a FREE society, except the Constitution; and, if no one ELSE will defend that document and the rule of LAW it represents against those out to SUBVERT it, YOU must–you MUST!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIRfdgp6JYc

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/88f589bb2357ad06963f6e9fef530e72e21089e02a4dd6612198e146e259e6c1.jpg

  • romanhans

    OT: Don’t miss Republican March Madness on Twitter. Fun even if you don’t like sports. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/02b217ac193bed12183635d4a7c2f96eba6f01fdf1357f9f8bf5b399d0b1cad2.jpg

  • billbear1961

    The fucking goddamned cowardly BASTARDS aren’t going to let the kids MARCH! THIS is what passes for democracy in this godforsaken ROTTEN banana republic!

    Permit for 500,000 student rally to end gun violence denied in favor of an unrelated ‘talent show’

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/1/1745732/-Permit-for-500-000-student-rally-in-D-C-denied-in-favor-of-an-unrelated-talent-show

  • ChrisMorley

    REPORTED and FLAGGED

    Fake Names Job Scam Bots Today
    -“Stepanie Lowe”
    -“Viola Trinidad”
    -“Sheryl”, pretending not to be “Viola Trinidad”

    http://www.tradingstandardsecrime.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/spot-a-job-scamFINAL-620×465.png

  • billbear1961

    I’m reminded of a moment in the film Nicholas and Alexandra, where Kerensky, addressing the Duma in his position as a member, urges that the Tsar must stop hiding with his troops at the front (though, in fact, military headquarters is FAR from the front) and come back to Petersburg to deal with the rising state of emergency, of crisis. “Chaos is coming to Russia,” he intones, dramatically, “and he should be HERE to DEAL with it!”

    Well, CHAOS is coming to the Republic, and the serious press and the Democrats and any SANE Republicans left must stop hiding behind timid tweets and declarations—and articles that do not spell out clearly, without equivocation, what unparalleled corruption, incompetence, and efforts to subvert of the rule of law we are faced with in this regime and in the party that’s aiding and abetting them—and RISE to her defense, NOW, before it’s TOO LATE!

    • JackFknTwist

      Half of the Congress are in league with the ‘chaos’, they get their Justices, they get their right wing agenda advanced, they are on the NRA payroll, they allow full access from lobbyists, they gerrymander constituencies, they nominated fascists such as Roy Moore, for god’s sake.

      It’s a bit late to make a call to arms when the enemy is within the gates.

      • billbear1961

        What I’m saying, Jack, is that their authority is FORFEIT–they’re traitors, FASCISTS.

        Fascists can have no legitimate authority in a GENUINE democracy.

        What’s needed are massive and relentless peaceful protests, coupled with economic measures, engaged in by everyone who is ABLE, to demand, at the very least, access to Trump’s financial history, SECURE elections, and an END to the weaponization of the judiciary (the stacking of the courts with fanatics) and law enforcement.

        Trump and the GOP–all on the right–believe that you are all SHEEP and that you won’t FIGHT for ANYTHING. For a quarter of a CENTURY, you, as a people, have not stood up to their lies and their extremism–nor have you demanded that the serious press and the Democrats stand up to them and their media LIE machine, either. That is why they’ve gotten worse and WORSE, and why they DARE what they now DARE: the slow-motion OVERTHROW of the RULE OF LAW and the installation of a BANANA REPUBLIC.

        • JackFknTwist

          No worries…..I’m all in favour of taking the Bastille.
          In France the people would have burned these fascists to the ground. I’m amazed the USA has not done so. Instead what do we get parades in pink hats, no demonstrations when a US Supreme Court Justice seat is stolen.
          Nunes behaves as the liar he is, he runs to the White House to subvert the Committee, he pretends to recuse himself then manipulates the Memo and releases the same, and no one pulls him down from his hypocrisy.
          Most of all he and the GOP subvert the FBI and the Intelligence agencies for their own political gain and to protect their own corruption.

          In the meantime the Office of the Presidency is used to raise foreign money for the House of Kushner/Trump.
          Ivanka develops her ‘brand’ from the West Wing.

          Every one is afraid to tackle the corrupt use of money by the NRA to bribe Rubio, Rand Paul and the rest.
          No one investigates the use of $30 million of Russian money by the NRA to contribute to Trump’s Campaign.

          No one trails the missing Inauguration Committee money .
          Corruption has become the way of life of US politicians.
          They cannot live without funds and they are eager to spend most of their time “fundraising”.

          Mueller is so right to ‘follow the money’ , let’s hope he goes via Trump/turd’s Tax Returns, his money laundering, his selling properties at inflated money to launder the money and his indebtedness to Putin’s Oligarch friends.
          Sure, the system is crumbling, but gerrymandering of constituencies is tolerated and you don’t even have an independent body to redraw constituencies; they are all done on party lines.

          That’s a pretty basic reform that has never happened in the USA.

          It’s like a third world country where elections are manipulated and that has been going on for decades.
          Isn’t it time to cry halt?

  • JCF

    In his soft-spoken way, Jeff Daniels really brings it re Drumpf!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSjp2rZejR0

  • blackstar
  • JCF

    New thread.

  • rednekokie

    If there is one thing Orrin Hatch knows, it’s stupid, dumbass people — since he, himself, just about completely originated the species.

    • Gianni

      That he is one of those whom he’s insulting was my first thought – a perfect example. Time to go, Orrin.

  • CJAS

    Mitt Romney, the man who’s going to replace him in the senate, was its author.

  • exGander

    “Just shut up and die!” – Patsy Stone

  • The_Wretched

    One of my closest friends needed a hip replaced and only could do so thanks to Obamacare. She’d be unable to work now if she didn’t get it. that’s not something that an emergency room will do nor hospital discounts for the poor programs.