FLORIDA: State House Approves Dem’s Bill Requiring All Public Schools To Display “In God We Trust” Motto

The Tampa Bay Times reports:

With the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High shooting still looming large, its students in the Capitol to lobby for gun controls, the Florida House overwhelmingly passed a measure its sponsor said aimed at bringing “light” to the schools. The bill (HB 839) would require all public schools to post the state motto, “In God We Trust,” in a “conspicuous place.”

Sponsor Rep. Kim Daniels, a Jacksonville Democrat who runs her own ministry, said Florida needed the legislation, given the goings on in the state. “He is not a Republican or a Democrat. He is not black or white,” Daniels said. “He is the light, and our schools need light in them like never before.”

The Friendly Atheist reported on Daniels last year:

When witches say they’re going to cast a spell on Donald Trump in order to prevent him from harming anybody, it’s one thing for a Christian zealot like Joshua Feuerstein to complain about what really amounts to nothing, even going so far as to tell people to pray to counter the hexes.

It’s truly disturbing, though, when an elected official is doing the same thing. This morning, newly elected Florida State Rep. Kimberly Daniels went on Facebook Live to lament the witches and call for prayers on behalf of Donald Trump. (Worst. Democrat. Ever.)

“God, I thank you, that a fool says there’s no God. Hallelujah, God, I bless you and glorify you, that you are Lord, Daddy God, you are Lord, and God, I thank you that we pray, God, over that Presidential seat. Don’t matter who’s in it.”

  • KnownDonorDad

    Would-be theocrats will exploit any opportunity to blur the separation of church and state.

  • JoeMyGod
    • LeeCMH

      In the name of Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus, you are heeled!

    • greenmanTN

      Well you have to admit the bad hair demons have been very very busy.

    • David Walker

      The trouble is that they never include the second part: In god we trust, all others pay cash.”

      • Jon

        There’s an ATM behind the altar to the right.

        • RoFaWh

          All RC churches have had one of their confessionals taken out and an ATM put in its place.

  • DaddyRay

    This solves absolutely nothing – as worthless as Thoughts and Prayers

    • 🐾vorpal🐾

      In fact, it makes things worse: it’s just divisive and stupid.
      If these people want to celebrate their religion, they should go to churches, and not to schools.

      • DaddyRay

        And it uses state taxpayer dollars to do it – money that could be used for metal detectors or something that would actually help

      • Nowhereman

        I agree. I was in the second grade when the right wing nut jobs of the day (the McCarthy era) changed our motto from E Pluribus Unum to In God We Trust, and added “under god” to our pledge. I refused to say it then and I refuse to say it today. I’m a life-long atheist. What about OUR right to freedom FROM religion?

        • 🐾vorpal🐾

          I’ve heard all kinds of ridiculous responses to that question.
          The two that stand out the most:
          1. “The founding fathers meant freedom of religion with regards to Christian denomination;” and
          2. “Freedom OF religion is not freedom FROM religion.”

          #2 is easily solved. I’m a devout member of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. (Parmesan Be Upon Him.)

          • Mihangel apYrs

            Pasta be with you.

            I had my husband ordained into the Church of teh Noodly One, the better to preach his atheism

          • 🐾vorpal🐾

            I’m in the process of getting my Canadian passport renewed, and if it wasn’t for it being a bit of a rush, I would have worn a Holey Colander in my photo to show my devotion.

          • Mihangel apYrs

            He will know your heart and your reasons, but will expect a number of beers to be sacrificed

          • RoFaWh

            Do you belong to the ziti sect, the linguini sect, or the spaghetti-macaroni sect?

          • 🐾vorpal🐾

            Pasphemy, you misshapen devil noodle prostrating scum!

            I am a loyal adherent of the One True Noodle: the tagliatelle sect!

          • cleos_mom

            And as I’m sure you already know (but they don’t) that unless freedom from religion is an accepted option, there can be no freedom of religion. Not of any kind, not for anybody in the long run.

          • Nowhereman

            I told my very religious landlady that I was an adamant atheist. She was giving me the old “but what it you’re wrong and can’t get into heaven” argument. I told her that I’ve lived my life to the best of my ability and if her god would not let me into heaven because I didn’t worship him, then it’s certainly not any place that I would want to be.

      • Chris Gardner

        Or maybe they should be made to pray before purchasing their alcohol down at the licquor store?

    • crewman

      It sends a very clear that some of our US citizens, atheists, are inferior and outsiders. The US government has no business singling out atheists for worse treatment. Nor does it proper for the government to push any specific religion, or even the concept that religion generally is preferable to no religion.

      • Nowhereman

        Hear hear. And if fundamentalist christian churches want to interfere in public policies, then they can either pay taxes, or put up with the rest of us telling them how to run their churches.

        • RoFaWh

          It’s not the churches paying taxes that looms importantly over us. It’s the pastors (so self-styled) that are probably not paying what they should be.

          • Nowhereman

            Well thanks to the tax scam law, churches can now put money into politics and still keep there exemptions.

      • Chris Gardner

        Atheists deserve to be taken out and beaten for their beliefs. Oh, and probably the Buddhists too. And the Mormons. They’re an ungodly sort. Maybe also include women who refuse to wear a headscarf on holy days? Will have to think about this. Lots of people who don’t believe just as I do… and they all deserve punishment.

    • Strepsi

      Worse, it’s unconstitutional on its face, will get sued, lose, and COST money better spent on… oh I don’t know…. education?!

      • shivadog

        They get away with putting that crap all over our money. I’m not sure if they can be successfully sued for it. (it is unconstitutional, but getting the courts to recognize that is a challenge)

    • perversatile

      IT’S A SIGN Sign Emporium
      Licensed Retail Distributors of State Approved
      ”In God We Trust” Signage
      Marquees- Banners- Neon Letters and More

  • Friday

    Lunatic theocrats marking territory again while kids bleed and go without ….school materials and enough teachers.

  • 🐾vorpal🐾

    After all the atheist billboards that have been vandalized by “loving Christians”, I hope nonbelievers and adherents of other faiths return the favor to this insulting act of disrespect.

    The sad thing is that I think many people genuinely believe that this will prevent school shootings.

  • marshlc

    Because we sure as hell can’t trust our government to take care of us

  • Gustav2

    At least the legislature did something…

    as useful as thoughts and prayers.

  • LeeCMH

    I wonder exactly what the Cheshire Cat has to say about this?

  • Yeah, that’ll save ’em from massacre. Same as “thoughts and prayers” – mere words – no actions.

  • Todd20036

    Fuck. They won’t pass gun laws, but they’ll pass religious fucking things. And I thought there were no more blue dog democrats.
    Shit. I guess Muslims/atheists/non-Judeo Christians exist in Florida.

    • Dagoril

      Hey, they also passed a law about the dangers of pornography! Praise Jeebus!

    • clay

      They won’t pass gun laws, but they’ll pass laws requiring specific interior decor.

  • BeaverTales

    I don’t see how this signage will help further either safety or education. It’s just religious pandering.

    • clay

      It won’t even help instill patriotism, let alone civic preparation and engagement.

    • Nowhereman

      If I were a student, it would infuriate the hell out of me, and remind me that as an atheist, I’m surrounded by people who believe in the supernatural. To me that is a red flag–they do not think rationally.

  • Michael White

    That will help/s

  • FAEN

    What fucking crap is this?

    • John Davis

      Christianist crap !

  • Anastasia Beaverhousen
  • Tomcat

    Display the golden rule and nothing else would be needed.
    And it is non denominational and non biased.

    • Mihangel apYrs

      but, but, but: it’s about fundamental fairness!!!! OMG OMG OMG

    • cleos_mom

      Along with the “silver” rule. We’ve all met people who would not make us happy if they followed the golden one.

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    There’s got to be a lawsuit, right? And someone who prays to, “Daddy God”, has some issues.

    • safari

      A civic god is allowed by our court system.

      • safari

        For reasons.

      • I thought their civic god was an assault rifle.

  • BJORN RAGNVALDR

    Someone has daddy issues. Daddy God?

    • Mikey

      reading that just creeped me the fuck out.

      • Steve

        That “daddy god” thing is a HUGE red flag. I would look for molesters in her backround – seriously.

        • olandp

          Her background is endlessly fascinating. She was an Olympic level track star at FSU, but she got into drugs and eventually became a prostitute to support her habit. Then she joined the US Army and rose up to Sargent and started running track again regaining her prior level. At some point she became born again and started her own church which bought her a $400,000+ home with a swimming pool that the “church” owns and doesn’t pay taxes on. She is profoundly ignorant of government yet has wormed her way into the state legislature.

          I voted for a Republican for only the second time in my life to get her off the Jacksonville City Council. I’d do it again if I was in her district.

          • zhera

            Why is she a Democrat? She sounds like the stereotype Republican, right down to having her own damn ‘church’.

        • cleos_mom

          But try Googling it. Apparently “Daddy God” replaced the expression “King’s Kid” after the latter finally got enough miles on it that they towed it to the junkyard;

  • AdamTh

    Batman is more powerful. “In Batman We Trust” anyone?

    • Batman is more likely to help the problems the schools face than this.

  • Harveyrabbit

    Blathering idiots.

  • safari

    Death cult.

  • Michael R
  • netxtown

    uh…this ‘gawd’ we’re supposed to trust…does s/he come with just thoughts and prayers or a fully automatic weapon?

    • GayOldLady

      This godde comes with a full battery of weapons, floods, hurricanes, earthquakes, meteors, fire. It’s a wrathful godde, Acting out on a helpless humankind, for such things as loving the same gender, taking it’s name in vain, cheating on your taxes and all sorts of misdeeds.

      • Nowhereman

        Well to be fair, if lightning or a tornado hits a church, then teh gays are responsible…

  • safari

    I’m really waiting for the day that these idiots replace their cross with a gun and start praying to it.

  • Robert Pierce

    Astounding that Democrats voted for that.

    • Tulle Christensen

      In Florida other than the southeast has to be all Goddy to get elected…sadly

  • jmax

    Typical evangelical bullshit – taking advantage of situations where people are emotionally vulnerable.

  • safari

    The more I think about this, the angrier I get. I see old people using this to crush children who are looking around and saying “Prayer ain’t working.”

    • netxtown

      jeebus shaming has been used for ages….

      • RJ Bone

        It’s an upgrade from wholesale slaughter if they have the wrong name for god, at least.

        • cleos_mom

          In that context, anyone driving a Mazda should be regarded with extreme suspicion.

  • SkokieGuy / May attempt snark

    The money spent implementing this can be found by cutting back on school supplies and teacher salaries. Everyone wins!

    • Talisman

      Don’t worry, Mexico will pay for it.

    • Nowhereman

      Instead, the new tax scam law disallows teachers from even claiming the school supplies they pay for out of their own pockets on their tax returns. This is pathetic. We used to be proud of our public schools.

  • GayOldLady

    Let us remember, In god we trust
    to always knock the shit out of us https://redeeminggod.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Belief-in-an-Angry-God.jpg

    • RJ Bone

      Genocide: Because asking to share land is just too polite, when you’re being biblical.

  • TimCA

    The self-proclaimed prophetess, Kim Daniels. She’s been the subject of several Joe My God posts over the years going back to her city council days. Be sure to check out her YouTube videos. They never fail to amuse LOL!

  • narutomania

    A million people can vote in support of a stupid notion. It still remains a stupid notion.

  • Buford

    I wonder how the Sutherland Springs congregation would feel about this… if they were here.

  • j.martindale

    Some people are as useless as pants on a hooker.

    • perversatile

      …or as an ashtray on a motorcycle.

  • JDS

    You stupid bitch stain. Jewish kids go to that school and do not need to see your b.s.

    • GayOldLady

      In fact one of the murdered students was a 14 yr old Jewish girl.

      • RoFaWh

        It makes my brain feel dirty to say so, but I predict the “conservatives” will make hay of this.

    • Silver Badger

      Jewish people believe in a god. At least some of them do.

      • JDS

        That is not the point. This cow wants to put this up just to honor xtainatity. You know Jeebus as and all that jazz.

        • RoFaWh

          Subconsciously, she thinks of the sign as a way to curry favor with her Daddy-gawd and earn a few brownie points. Who knows? Perhaps in this way she can score a halo with triple-thick gold plating, instead of the cheaper single-thick plated ones that ordinary petty sinners are handed when they enter Heaven?

  • netxtown

    damn! …and the day opens with a double heaping helping of insanity and stupidity!

  • Tom Furgas

    It is good to remember that before “In God We Trust” appeared on US money the previous motto was “Mind Your Own Business”.

    • Nowhereman

      Exactly.

  • Bluto
    • Nowhereman

      Thanks for the belly laugh!

  • Pucks yer Mackd

    So they want to put this up knowing that the supreme courts will make them take it down. All the wasted time and money that could have been used for real things.

  • GayOldLady

    I’m old enough to remember when the phrase “under god” was not in the Pledge of Allegiance.

    • bzrd

      yes !
      1954, stopped saying it then

      • Nowhereman

        I was in the Territory of Alaska–we didn’t get the word until a few years later.

    • Nowhereman

      Me too! I was in grade school and it really bothered me. I wouldn’t mouth the words. Oddly enough, inserting it actually destroyed the meaning. It used to read “one nation, indivisible.” Now we are a nation torn apart over our religious beliefs or lack of them.

      • GayOldLady

        Or you could say, rejection of religious beliefs.

  • Ninja0980

    The people who carry out mass shootings are psychopaths/sociopaths who aren’t going to give a damn if Gawd is in school or not.

  • April

    Since they think the slogan In God We Trust will magically fix everything they shouldn’t have a problem if we double down and add Praise Allah.

    • madknits

      Or even better, in Arabic, Alahu Akbar (God is great).

    • RJ Bone

      Magic spells: Only bad if they’re not christianist magic spells.

  • safari

    In case any of you are curious, it’s our fault.
    https://twitter.com/PinkNews/status/967028600250781696

    • bzrd

      say any stupid thing just to keep the family name in lights

    • Jefe5084

      We know what you two do on your fishing trips.

    • Anti Russian American

      Latent homosexual twins should not throw stones at glass houses.

    • The_Wretched

      The Bentham brothers would know about illicit sex. They know each other.

  • anne marie in philly

    BULL FUCKING SHIT! separation of church and state, fuckwads! FUCK YOU, XSTAINS!

  • twb6yz

    God didn’t prevent the shooting. Offers no more protection unless the sign is bulletproof and you can hide behind it

  • scorpiomike

    I don’t think this should be posted anywhere, but if it has to be conspicuous, how about the back of every urinal? /snark

  • Rex

    In God We Trust, but let’s arm our teachers just in case.

  • Jefe5084

    Another meaningless, worthless, unconstitutional piece of BS religiosity.

  • SilasMarner

    Just proves that craziness knows no party barriers. Christians be crazy!

  • jayjonson

    There. We declared porn the greatest health danger in Florida. We declared that we trust in God. We sent thoughts and prayers to the families of the victims of a gun massacre. What a productive legislative session we have had!

  • “he’s not republican or democrat. he’s not black or white.”

    although, if you were to legislate to make schools display a black Jesus, there would be all kinds of shit.

  • Jefe5084

    OT: Here’s a better suggestion. “Change the name of the AR-15 to ‘Marco Rubio’ because they are so easy to buy.”

    So, “AR-Rubio” or “MR-15.” whatever.

    We should change the names of AR-15s to “Marco Rubio” because they are so easy to buy.— Sarah Chadwick// #NEVERAGAIN (@sarahchad_) February 23, 2018

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    I’m sure that FFRF will be interested in filing a suit against that crap.

  • Anti Russian American

    Why would any self-respecting gay man live in a shithole like Floriduh? I escaped in 1994. I never looked back and I never visit.

    • Jmdintpa

      maybe because we are poor, have sick family here, have lives here and we arent afraid to stay and fight for my right to exist where ever the fuck i damn well please. stop running because eventually you will run out of places to run to. besides for every crackpot we got every other state got em to.

      • Anti Russian American

        That was a rhetorical question.

        • cleos_mom

          Doubtful.

          • RoFaWh

            Sometimes rhetorical questions unintentionally turn out to be very deep. In a way, like Calvin and Hobbes.

        • Jmdintpa

          I know and Im sorry for being snippy. Trust me if it werent for all but just a couple of things on that list I would be the first one up out this hole. Were doing all we can down here to rid ourselves of evil witches and wanna be disney villians like this deaconess. please forgive my assholeness

  • DaveMiller135

    “…All Others Hand Over Any Weapons Before Entering”

  • Hank
    • Ham

      Do we?

  • RJ Bone

    To paraphrase Leonard Nimoy:

    “If I was christian, I believe my response would be: ‘Go to hell’. If I was christian.”

  • Nowhereman

    Wow. Just wow. We are going backwards. I don’t trust or believe in gods or supernatural beings at all. Humans created this mess, and no sky fairy is going to fix it.

  • olandp

    So, Kimberly Daniels blesses God. I’m sure he is ever so grateful.

    This whore has placed herself above God. I’m sure all her supporters agree.

  • Jack

    Thank G-d they are taking action.

  • RJ Bone

    a few seconds ago
    “Our country’s public schools are christian schools. You can only come to school when you are saved.”

    “We only rent to christians.”

    “I didn’t see you at church this week. You’re fired.”

    “Get in the bus, atheist scum. You’re going to a camp for wayward youths where you’ll learn to love jesus. And then live in the tent cities with the other not-birth christians.”

  • ClevelandJim

    Nothing like trying to indoctrinate the children. This is so offensive on so many levels. That stupid phrase should be removed from currency, too.

  • Happy_Housewife

    Religion is dying. Their pathetic attempts to keep it relevant are futile.

    More and more, the only exposure people have to religion are the scammers on TV and nutcases like this one. In another generation, it will be something you only see in the more backward parts of the south and midwest.

  • Natty Enquirer

    Someone should start selling “Allah” stickers.

  • 🐾vorpal🐾

    “our schools need light in them like never before.”

    Invest in lightbulbs?

    • RoFaWh

      That reminds me, I have to change the bulb in my reading light.

      All good threads deserve a non sequitur or two.

  • Boy Elvis

    Satanic Temple…paging the Satanic Temple…

  • Barry S G

    Maybe it is better to trust in God; we certainly can’t trust in our elected representatives to do the right thing. Only the extremely right-wing religionists actually believe that God is going to miraculously intervene in our human affairs. The rest of us who are believers truly see ourselves as the ones to act in the name of the Divinity, doing what is right

  • Clive Johnson

    She has that evangelical-non-thought-trance verbal rap down pat.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Again I ask, how is this legal?

    • RoFaWh

      It isn’t.

      Unfortunately the only tool to fight it is the lawsuit, an expensive tool yet not an awfully good one. What’s lacking is a law with some serious teeth, such as auto-disqualifying state legislators on record for having voted in favor of any proposition later found to be unconstitutional.

  • Gerry Fisher

    I’m so tired of *bullshit*.

  • JackNasty

    What are the thoughts-n-prayers crowd covering up now?

  • I have two words for Rep. Daniels: Establishment Clause.

  • Stogiebear

    Now that the Florida legislature has taken this bold step they can all go home never to have to gather again. Because what could possibly not be taken care of by having “In God We Trust” emblazoned on every building like so much shit on the walls of a crazy person’s padded cell?

  • ColdCountry

    Do these morons know nothing about the Constitution?

    • Halou

      There is only one amendment, the second amendment.

      But surely that’d make it the first?

      Shut up Billy! You and your stupid facts.

    • RoFaWh

      Exactly!

  • EdA

    There’s a meme running, approximately “Republiscum politicians could save the taxpayer billions by replacing their security people with thoughts and prayers. Why don’t they?”

  • Gianpiero

    Because, you know, it’s only on every coin and bill in everyone’s pockets, and they might never see it.

    • Steven in Texas

      “In God We Trust” first appeared on the Two-cent piece in 1864 and has appeared on paper currency since 1957. A law passed in a Joint Resolution by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by President Dwight Eisenhower on July 30, 1956, declared “In God We Trust” must appear on American currency.

      So its still rather modern and could be removed!

      • Gianpiero

        I agree, that would be great. It cracks me up that these “warriors” for the phrase don’t realize how many times a day it’s right in front of everyone. Like one more sign on a school will make a difference. (And I love those two-cent pieces. I carried one in my pocket for a long time as a good luck charm.)

  • Richard Rush

    If they were being honest about their beliefs, their motto would be . . .

    In Guns We Trust

  • cleos_mom

    I bless you and glorify you, that you are Lord, Daddy God, you are Lord,
    and God, I thank you that we pray, God, over that Presidential seat.

    Apparently “Daddy God” is a currently popular term. Their god gets around.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/57eb8a37b752d880a43cf2dd9dc419826a25cdb3f20c844c1fe755b453857b5a.jpg

  • TampaDink

    They couldn’t be bothered by voting in favor of discourse over assault weapons but they had time for this & a vote about porn being a threat to our health. Fuck them all with a rusty chainsaw.

    • RoFaWh

      They probably don’t think of it in this way, but they’re using religion to distract from the wrong-doing of not bringing guns under control. How very trumpian of them.

  • Charles Nelson

    There will be a footnote under the motto: “NRA/Trump/Reagan”.

    • Canadian Observer

      Well either that or “All others pay cash”.

  • JWC

    Ah what a major step to NOWHERE What pray tell does this accomplish

  • boobert

    Government is failing.

    • stevenj

      Government is being dismantled.

      • RoFaWh

        Sometimes it’s impossible not to wonder if American “conservatives” are really anarchists at heart.

        I’m waiting for Fat Donnie to take some measure pushed by his buddies, whereupon, to global consternation, the bottom falls out of the US dollar and the US experiences inflation as bad as that during the Weimar Republic.

        Then the “conservatives” will experience the nightmare of true anarchy.

        Say goodbye, reserve currency status.

  • Don Blair

    Sue the jeebus out of Floridah !

  • Juvela Bumblebee

    Well, the good news in this is that it will cause more students to hold religion in contempt. When I was in school (with prayers and the pledge of allegiance) almost nobody said the texts straight. It was always variations on some thing offensive, such as “I pledge my pants”.

    • infmom

      In my little town
      I grew up believing
      That God kept his eye on us all
      And he used to lean upon me
      As I pledged allegiance to the wall….

      –Paul Simon

  • Chris Gardner

    Maybe they can make the sign really large and bulletproof. That way, kids can hide behind it during the next school shooting.

  • Steve Smith

    It should read “in God we trust. Or Gods. Or, indeed, no God at all. You choose.”

  • andrew

    Unanimous approval of a measure that will have no real effect on anything. Man those politicians are gutsy.

  • FelineMama

    YEAH!! That’ll do it. SMART.

  • RoFaWh

    The real motto of the USA: E pluribus unum

    Latin for “from many, one”, to give a word for word translation.

  • infmom

    Bring back Madalyn Murray O’Hair.

  • Ann Kah

    Wonderful. A sign in the classroom and a porn prohibition. As far as that goes toward keeping guns out of the schools, it’s rivaling “thoughts and prayers” for making a completely useless gesture.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/35621945547a4ec5c72a8fd1931ac593e1eec3fd82ca82f99bc603000555d9fe.jpg