Trump Logic 101: I Never Said Give Teachers Guns, I Said Give Concealed Guns To Gun-Trained Teachers

Raw Story reports:

President Donald Trump lashed out at media coverage of his proposal to arm some teachers by denying that he ever made it. “I never said “give teachers guns” like was stated on Fake News CNN and NBC,” the president wrote on Twitter. However, Trump then seemed to undercut his own point by saying that some teachers should actually be armed. The president also said that armed teachers would “serve as a deterrent to the cowards that do this” — and he said that arming teachers would be a much cheaper option than paying for armed guards.

  • Gustav2

    Good Gawd, too stupid to correctly state the NRA talking points.

    • clay

      As far as I can tell (and as far as I’m willing to dig) the NRA is refusing to address Trump’s unpredictable, contradictory, brain farts.

      • Rambie

        The NRA knows they own Congress. Corporal “Shitgibbon” Bone Spur can have all the tantrums he wants.

  • djcoastermark

    5 year old with his hand caught in the cookie jar ?

  • olandp

    A gun free CPAC or NRA Convention is also a magnet for bad people. To be honest even if open carry was allowed at CPAC or the NRA they would still be magnets for bad people.

  • pj

    what a great idea. how could that possibly go wrong.

  • clay

    The “savage sickos” have mastered a learning curve that Trump has not. In the most immediate example, the one that should be most obvious to everyone, even Trump, the poorly practiced plans were easily overcome by careful timing and a strong distraction– wait until the kids are out of the teachers’ classrooms, and also pull the fire alarm. Trump’s proposal would still left the kids in the cross-fire.

  • AtticusP

    Picture it: a POTUS with a brain. Remember those days?

    • Todd20036

      Yup, but it was always a democratic president.

      • Tatonka

        There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.

        • stuckinthewoods

          Good choice in this context. I’d assumed W confused The Who’s lyric. This is the first stanza: “We’ll be fighting in the streets, With our children at our feet, and the morals that they worship will be gone. And the men who spurred us on sit in judgement of all wrong. They decide, and the shotgun sings the song.”

          • Nowhereman

            I’ve had Subterranean Homesick Blues playing in my head lately, too, as well as “Ohio.” Trump gives me flashbacks to the 60s only scarier.

          • John Davis

            I lived through ALL of that…yeah I’m old as dirt !

          • stuckinthewoods

            Today’s demonstrations are taking me back to that time as well.

    • Stogiebear

      Who could have foreseen that those billboards asking if we
      missed George W. Bush were prophetic?

      • AmeriCanadian

        I absolutely hated W while he was president and thought he was the dumbest one ever but today he is looking more and more like a genius, and an actual stable one at that.

        • Karl Dubhe

          No, he was still a shit president. Compared to the liquid shit who’s occupying the White House he might look better.

          But the smell, and substance, will be the same, or as near as damnit.

  • Jason

    20%? Has this dipshit ever been in a school? Or maybe he doesn’t know what 20% means.

    • clay

      Trump thinks that 14 kids, instead of 17 kids, getting murdered is fine.

    • olandp

      Ask any teacher if a teacher’s gun on campus would be safe. I knew an elementary school teacher who’s second grade student stole her keys and then stole her car! Nothing is ever safe in a school.

      • Todd20036

        What sucks is that if that stupid kid got in an accident, the teacher would probably have been held liable.

  • Steve Smith

    Funny how most of the world get along just fine with gun-free schools. In relatively gun-free countries. Something here seems obvious to me.

  • Rex

    “I didn’t say give teachers guns, I said give teachers guns.”

    • jeffg166

      He can’t be any clearer.

      • Gustav2

        I see what you did there.

      • Nowhereman

        I know, right? I heard him loud and clear…
        Seriously, it’s painful to go from a president who knew the law and the issues and could speak English to this so-called president who doesn’t seem to know what he said two seconds ago and needs flash cards to tell him to act human.

        • Galvestonian

          HUMAN ? You really think that this ‘thing’ is human ?
          He’s so far away from human behavior which is the potential and expressed capacity for physical, mental, and social activity during the phases of human life — the study that attempts to describe and explain the changes in human cognitive, emotional, and behavioral capabilities and functioning over the entire life span, from the fetus to old age.

          He’s NONE of that — no capabilities and absolutely no functions other that greed and ego.

          • Nowhereman

            I agree. He’s definitely only working from the lizard part of his brain. (I know–“You really think he has a brain?”

      • Buford

        “You can’t stare too long at the sun”

    • zhera

      You need to look into his heart, Rex. Only then can you know what he really means!

    • 🐾vorpal🐾

      And Mexico will pay for them.

    • Mike Knife

      The cause of people doing mass shootings is psych meds, they make people snap, get guns and kill. …..

    • JCF
  • Todd20036

    “I didn’t say give guns to teachers, I said GIVE GUNS TO TEACHERS.”

  • netxtown

    aw shut up donnie. you’re too stupid to be a part of the conversation.

  • AmeriCanadian

    America’s president: having to refer to notes that remind him to listen while at a “Listening Session”.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/57ef946c17c69a849e3c8877271860d2addac38f23e2f1e23d4ddb9d7803c956.png

    • clay

      Last night I read #4 as “I want you.”
      This image makes it look like “I hear you.”
      but what if it really says “I wear you.”?

      • AmeriCanadian

        As in “I wear you down”.

        • clay

          One would hope, but I can’t guarantee that Trump does NOT want to wear their skin like a shawl.

      • olandp

        Those were high school girls, prime Trump age.

      • GayOldLady

        Isn’t it pathetic that a grown man has to take a cheat sheet into a condolence meeting and listening session? He simply cannot relate to the experiences of others or express sincere condolences or even empathize with their pain. He’s as cold as ice and emotionally dead.

        • clay

          I’ve seen grown men take a cheat sheet into a hospice listening session.

          I absolutely do not believe that Trump was so emotionally torn up that he couldn’t keep the purpose of the meeting fore-most in his mind. Boredom, dementia, narcissism, however. . .

    • Stogiebear

      No. 6 (on reverse) Don’t grab anyone by the pussy.

      • olandp

        No. 6 (on reverse) Don’t grab anyone by the pussy on camera.

        FIFY

        • clay

          Who would do this in a public space with live security cameras running[?]

          Same person who ended the original with a period.

      • Nowhereman

        Speaking of which, after a young man finished talking, he was sobbing quietly and a man sitting behind him touched him lightly on the shoulder and said something comforting to him. Trump saw that and immediately reached over to his right and grabbed a young woman by the arm for no apparent reason. It was creepy. Monkey see, monkey do.

        • John Davis

          I could NOT watch that whole thing, (only clips)… too painful on so MANY levels, including the dolt of a president sitting there staring at young women’s legs.

        • Stogiebear

          Exactly — sociopaths cannot learn sympathy but they can learn to mimic it.

          • Nowhereman

            And knowing Trump, he saw it as an opportunity to cop a feel. I doubt if he would have done it to a young man.

    • DaddyRay

      It wasn’t reminding him to listen, it was reminding him to say he was listening. They all know Trump doesn’t listen to anyone but the voices in his head so they wanted him to say the “I hear you” to make it seem like he was listening

    • #DJTK5F

      Hope Hicks’ handwriting?

      • AmeriCanadian

        It does have an appearance of being written by a female, doesn’t it?

      • clay

        There was stuff floating around comparing it to Ivanka’s.

        • AmeriCanadian

          That would be rich if she did write it. An emotionally detached, spoiled, out-of-touch daughter giving advice to her empathy deficient, narcissistic, sociopathic father on how to act “human”.

          • 🐾vorpal🐾

            Trump is definitely in the uncanny valley.

      • Gianni

        Her real name is Dope Hicks. She changed it to Hope so it would sound more sweet and positive.

    • zhera

      Notes written by Ivanka. I guess her job at the WH is to program the TrumpBot.

    • Gerry Fisher

      “You take the toilet paper and wipe your butt like *this*!”

  • Stogiebear

    The idiot can’t even keep track of what it’s said/saying within three lines of a damn tweet.

  • Karl Dubhe

    The US army deployed thousands of troops to various nations over the last few decades. They had well armed soldiers in hostile nations guarding their bases, and they still got attacked.

    Being able to defend yourself won’t help much if the mass murderer wannabe knows to kill the adults first. And with the advantage of surprise, the MM will be able to execute many before anyone would be able to try to shoot at him. (and it will be a him) Even then, something called ‘buck fever’ might make the ‘defender’ miss the shooter and then be another body in the MM’s vile count.

    We didn’t end the problem of drinking and driving by making sure that every driver was drunk. Why the fuck would you think you can arm your way out of this?

    Didn’t anyone ever hear of the arms race? Before WWI the buildup of weaponry was a factor in encouraging the nations to try the damned things out. The nuclear arms race nearly ended (and still might end) the same way.

    • Chris Baker

      Exactly, It will just make the teachers the first targets. Honestly, the MM could shoot a dozen people or more before an armed teacher could get to him. And unless the teacher is a trained sniper…

  • My mother is a retired teacher, 32 years with the Lafayette Parish School Board.
    This is her comment about arming teachers.

    I am a pacifist and would be hard pressed to immerse myself in a gun culture.
    I can envision though that I would be one to shield students with my body.

    • GayOldLady

      The most underrated and underpaid people in our society are our Teachers. Your Mom is a special lady and deserves our gratitude for her years of dedications to our children.

      • Thank you. She’ll appreciate the kind words

      • #DJTK5F

        Yes, and no.

        I would not want to be in a workplace with some (most) of the teachers I know carrying firearms.

    • Bluto

      Mom wasn’t paid enough to teach, much less adding armed commando to her duties.

      • Nowhereman

        Hear hear! The whole idea is ridiculous on it’s face. And if there are guns on campus, some malcontent will get ahold of one of them and either shoot others or themselves. Imagine a grade schooler getting ahold of an unattended gun.

    • ColdCountry

      I have a friend who recently retired from a lifetime of teaching. He said if they had required him to carry a gun, he would have quit.

  • GayOldLady

    In the Parkland School there were 3000 students. How do you train 40 teachers to police a multi-building 3000 student campus while simultaneously teaching, coaching, counseling? It’s a HORRIBLE IDEA no matter how you said it President Nincompoop.

    • Karl Dubhe

      I’m pretty sure, even though I’ve not asked any teacher, that few if any of them want to have weapons in their schools.

      • Todd20036

        Do pens count? They’re pretty mighty weapons. In fact, they may help bring down the SHOTUS

        • Karl Dubhe

          They’re mightier than the sword. Who gets remembered a thousand years after their deaths? The writers, philosophers and scientists/engineers, or the warriors who stabbed their neighbours?

          A few of the warmongering leaders are remembered, but their works were fleeting. Over four thousand years after his death, we still know the name of Imhotep, and some might even know why he’s remembered.

          • MusicBear88

            Those of us who had good, unarmed teachers know!

      • John Davis

        Hundreds, perhaps tens of thousands of teachers have posted on their Facebook pages that they are NOT prison guards, and don’t want to become that.

        • Karl Dubhe

          I should have said that I don’t need to ask. 🙂

          I had thought about being a teacher, somewhat seriously too, but I know that I’d not have wanted to have a firearm on me while trying to teach.

      • clay

        I don’t carry my phone in my classroom.
        I don’t have a secure drawer in my classroom.
        Too many students freak out when they see any weapon in my classroom.
        Too many students carry them as political statements, rather than considering their designed use, in my classroom.

    • Todd20036

      What’s worse, bullets don’t care where they go once they start flying, and friendly bullets can kill kids as easily as terrorist bullets.

      • 🐾vorpal🐾

        The alt-righties are going on and on about how the guns will be stored, unloaded, in locked safes.

        I’m sure the school shooters will wait patiently while the teachers go, unlock the safe, and load the guns.

    • Gustav2

      Remember, the solution is always…more guns!

      Parkland Shooting: Deputies will carry rifles on school grounds, Broward sheriff says

      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/parkland-shooting-deputies-will-carry-rifles-school-grounds-broward-sheriff-n850106

      • 🐾vorpal🐾

        Unless you’re treading guns, there aren’t enough of them.

      • Nowhereman

        The horse is out of the barn.

      • You’re right! There has never ever been a shooting at a military base right? Because good guys with guns. Or a president surrounded by good guys with guns, right?

    • Gianni

      Imagine the lawsuits if the investigations that follow reveal that in the exchange of gunfire, students were killed by bullets fired from a teacher’s pistol. Perhaps each school could have a Teachers SWAT team for just such occasions. Or maybe just eliminate schools – no students, no victims. Just remember, do not try blaming the ready and easy access to guns as having anything at all to do with this problem.

      • GayOldLady

        I agree. Gun ownership should at least be as controlled as vehicle ownership requiring testing, licensing, license renewal and liability insurance. And that isn’t even addressing the mental health issue. Assault Weapons and all accessories that turn ordinary handguns into assault weapons should be banned. Ammunition purchases should also be looked at.

        • Gianni

          Dear Leader would have to stand up to the NRA to even suggest such control. He hasn’t the guts for that. It’s the same affliction that the Republicans in Congress have.

          • Nowhereman

            The only way to fix this is to vote out every goddam politician who takes money from the NRA. It looks like the NRA has been a funnel for getting laundered Russian money into the hands of (mostly) republican congress people. Undoing Citizen’s United would be another good thing to do. It’s ridiculous that a small minority of gunhumping idiots gets to tell the rest of us how we will live.

          • John Davis

            All of that, very accurate and sadly true.

        • lymis

          And even then, the targets at gun ranges stay quietly in one place and don’t shoot back.

    • MarkOH

      My husband is a teacher. He and his fellow teachers REFUSE to get involved with this armed teacher BS. Also, Trump is TELLING teachers to gun down the students that they have been working with. Really? If that is all there is to it, Trump, get rid of your secret service and get a concealed weapon license yourself.

      • GayOldLady

        Exactly. And good for your Husband and his fellow teachers for making their voices heard.

    • Buford

      Watch the rerun of Lawrence O’Donnell’s beautiful teardown of that logic on last night’s show. A work of art. He skillfully explained how, as a practical matter, it’s impossible to expect armed teachers to do anything other than make a school shooting exponentially worse.

      https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/lawrence-why-arming-teachers-is-a-fantasy-war-game-1167118915794

      • GayOldLady

        Thanks for the link, Buford.

      • John Davis

        Yes, thanks, I missed Lawrence last night, (asleep on the couch).

    • Randy503

      So the teachers that took their own time to train themselves to use a gun, and used their own money to buy a gun, should be allowed to carry said gun in school.

      Perfect! Let the teachers defend themselves and the students without spending a dime of taxpayer money!

  • Michael R

    Math is hard .

    • Todd20036

      Does that mean math nerds make you hard?

      • Karl Dubhe

        That would be some math that I’d love to get behind, or in front of…

      • Nerds (and geeks) are hot.

        • Gianni

          I have to agree. They always seem so controllable that molesting them would be a distinct pleasure for me.

  • carrot festival

    “Of course I didn’t say give teachers guns, they’ll have to pay for them!”

    • John Davis

      Just like they already have to pay for school supplies in their classrooms because the school systems are strapped for cash already.

      • Nowhereman

        It’s more like they’re being choked off. Republicans hate public schools. Too many young people can get educations that way. For republicans, “Ignorance is Strength”. It’s how they get elected. They would rather have schools churn out happy workers for low-paying jobs.

    • Gianni

      Exactly. Didn’t Dear Leader cut education funding in his new budget?

      • Nowhereman

        Yup–Next up, Medicare and Social Security.

    • Nowhereman

      And they won’t be able to claim it on their taxes!

  • Bluto
    • DaddyRay

      Unfortunately 2/15 is the day after the shooting so apparently those kids were just one day away from being able to stop the bullets

  • DaveMiller135

    So, an additional job for the teacher: unpaid security guard. Now, in addition to risking their lives every day, a whole new way to make them targets.

    Still, teachers with guns, classroom behavior could really improve.

    You know, when people mention the sums that pols are pocketing from the NRA, it never seems like enough to buy this kind of loyalty.

  • RoverSerton

    My Father in law loved guns and had more than 40 pistols. He was a night watchman and refused to carry a gun because of the possibility of having to shoot someone. Not all gun owners are bad people, but, if you are a bad person, you probably are a gun owner.

  • AmeriCanadian

    I can’t WAIT for little miss moonshine to spin this at the next WH presser.

  • greenmanTN

    I have a mentally handicapped cousin, but it’s getting really hard not refer to Trump as retarded, an offensive term. His emotional development is delayed, he has the language skills of a 3rd grader and the emotional needs of a toddler. His development is delayed, so what else do you call it?

    • AmeriCanadian

      Severely arrested development. Many would classify him as low functioning.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      semi-literate, anti-intellectual narcissist

    • Karl Dubhe

      Trump is entering the early/mid stages of senility/dementia. It used to be said that the older folks would enter a second childhood, where they’d need to be watched over as if they were kids again. It’s disturbing when it happens to one of your parents, to watch it happen to a world leader – especially an elected one – is more disturbing.

      He’s not fit for office.

      • The_Wretched

        “Donny the Unfit”

      • John Davis

        He was NEVER on the brightest days of his mind “fit for office”.

    • Gianni

      If Donnie’s emotional development delays much longer, it won’t have to bother. He’ll be six feet under.

  • safari

    I see Blackwater is still trying to find work.

    • Bluto

      Oh hell yeah, I can easily imagine congress approving a 100+ billion contract for their cronies to militarize our schools.

  • #DJTK5F

    Liar’s Logic. Murderer’s Math.

  • Michael R

    An armed security guard never got the chance to stop the teen gunman who murdered 17 students and staffers at a Florida high school, authorities said Thursday.

    Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel confirmed that accused mass murderer Nikolas Cruz managed to shoot up the Parkland high school without ever encountering the school resource deputy.

    “He was on campus and he was armed,” Israel said. “At this point, the only thing I can tell you definitively is he never encountered Cruz.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/armed-guard-florida-school-encountered-rampaging-gunman-article-1.3822777

    • GayOldLady

      Other than having a lot of guns on campus the biggest problem with arming teachers is the logistics. Unless you have a crystal ball you have no idea where the shooter is coming from and when he’s going to go on his rampage. If you think it out to it’s logical conclusion you’re left with the realization that you’d need and armed teacher at every stairwell, in every doorway, on every floor, at every entrance and exit and they would literally need their weapon locked and loaded and in the firing position from the time school began to the time it ended. It’s an illogical solution to a horrific problem.

    • The_Wretched

      A 3000 kid school is not a small place. Even if the SRO had a good idea where to go, it’s at least several minutes to get anywhere just due to the size and layout of the building.

  • safari

    Oh look. We’re already at the part in this story where he is shifting the blame to Congress.

    Next he’ll shit on all their proposals.

  • Patrick

    in another 15 minutes He will say he didn’t tweet that ……

  • Devon Rodriguez
    • kaydenpat

      And he’s only just begun.

  • kaydenpat

    Because this won’t cause additional chaos when the police can’t tell who is the good guy with the gun and who is the bad guy with the gun in the next school massacre, right?

  • Makoto

    Still wondering where the money for the guns and ammo he’s “giving” the teachers comes from, given how low the budget for most schools is.
    Or if they’ll require testing, with posted results of the testing for everyone to see.
    Or who will teach the classes while the gun-carry-teachers are off getting trained or tested. Or where the money for the training/testing comes from.

    Or why Congress is a gun free zone and yet they aren’t looking to change that.

    • John Davis

      All good questions to respond to the madman in OUR White House’s and Congresspersons’ stupid ideas.

  • Buford

    Typical Trump – “Stop quoting what I actually said, and start quoting what I meant to say but am too ignorant, incompetent, and self-absorbed to convey appropriately”

    • -M-

      And that’s being generous. He’s too crooked to say what he means and generally too lazy, ignorant and stupid to have a detailed idea in the first place.

  • DaddyRay

    Not sure why I have not change the channel from MSNBC from last night but Morning Joe just showed the new NRA web ads where they are blaming the media for encouraging the next mass shooting.

    • kaydenpat

      Yeah, I was particularly shocked at the Black dude since the NRA didn’t support the two Black men who lawfully owned guns but were still shot and killed by the police. The NRA is not about protecting anyone but folks like Zimmerman.

      • Karl Dubhe

        The NRA is about protecting the manufacturers profit margins.

        Nothing else matters to them.

    • John Davis

      Disgusting, deceptive, deplorable !

      Be the way, did you see the interview with the father of his beautiful freshman daughter who was “hunted-down” last week? That guy was amazingly calm and collected and rational, a wonderful interview.

      • AmeriCanadian

        Are you sure he wasn’t a “crisis actor”? /s

        • John Davis

          Another one of those right-wing despicable deplorable acts over the last week, in reaction to this latest slaughter.

      • DaddyRay

        I did, that is what was on when I turned on the TV and I think that is why I am still tuned to MSNBC

        • John Davis

          I seldom watch morning Joke… but somehow wound up there with my second cup of coffee just as that father came on.

          • DaddyRay

            It is heartbreaking to watch these interviews with students, parents and teachers – their words carry so much more weight than any political pundit, spokesperson or politician

          • John Davis

            So true ! Even liberal politicians cannot move me as these victims’ words do..

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            It’s set on my DVR. Coffee. Morning Joe.
            The best part, is that I can fast forward all the commercials and about 80 minutes of him yapping, and get to people who know what they are talking about.

          • John Davis

            Yes, I fast forward through it usually, don’t like to hear Joe talking…show is much MUCH better on days he’s not there.

    • Karl Dubhe

      Right. If nobody talks about the mass murders, they’re not happening.

      /idiocy…

      • DaddyRay

        How dare the media show the inevitable result of the NRA’s actions that everyone said would happen.

        • Karl Dubhe

          They should start broadcasting the live pictures of the crime scene. Rub their goddamn noses in what those weapons do to children (or adults).

          Then again, that might encourage some of the sicker people….

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      That ad is outrageous !!

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    Maybe armed teachers should show up at the next budget negotiation when it comes to their pay and benefits. /s

  • Butch

    Do you want to be the one seen holding a gun when the SWAT teams enter? And in any case, do you really think that a teacher with a handgun is any match for someone with an AR-15? You’re talking about a dead teacher in either case.

    • John Davis

      Very true, and the teacher’s gun would wind up as yet another weapon for the killer-intruder.

      • DaddyRay

        The teachers gun could also be taken when accidentally left unsecured and create a school shooting incident when there wouldn’t have been one if it wasn’t there

        • John Davis

          Exactly, we already have seen stories of police officers carelessly leaving their gun around, or accidentally shooting it off in a bathroom when adjusting clothing, etc.

  • kaydenpat

    By the way, let’s see if Trump hangs tough on what he wants to do (raise the age of gun buyers, etc.) given that the NRA came out last night against raising the age of gun buyers to 21. The NRA isn’t going to give an inch on this debate. Let’s see if Republicans are courageous enough to act despite the NRA’s opposition.

    • The_Wretched

      Like everything else in society, hooking kids works a ton better than converting adults. Let’s raise the gun age to 27.

  • canoebum

    Any suggestion, no matter how stupid, is better than suggesting that weapons of war not be sold to civilians.

    • -M-

      Worse, sold with basically no oversight or restrictions. I mean if they want to try making an argument for letting civilians buy assault weapons they can try, but why on Earth would you not make the requirements for that significantly stricter than for buying a pistol or regular rifle? In any situation where you legitimately needed an assault weapon right now without a background check or waiting a few days to pick it up gun laws would no longer apply anyway, I don’t think gun stores would be sticklers for process in the midst of an invasion or civil war.

  • IAMBOWLINGGREEN
    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      That’s pathetic as fuck. And crap like that is just going to increase the number of Nones in the next generation as they see people using Jeebus as an excuse to continue kissing the NRA’s ass.

    • AmeriCanadian

      Similar to signs posted in neighborhoods stating “Drug Free Zone”. Mmm hmm. Right.

    • Michael White

      thought and prayers work every time./s

    • The_Wretched

      Xtian magic is boring and ineffectual. Talk about lying to yourself. And gaslighting everyone else.

    • Gretchen

      May as well Trust “God”. Sure as hell can’t depend on the lawmakers to do anything constructive.

    • And voted to proclaim porn is a health issue problem. Not guns, porn……sigh

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Instead of reinforcing every single school and giving teachers guns, why not just bus kids to prisons every day ?

    Super security, fences, even a guard tower !

    • AmeriCanadian

      They’d sure learn real-life skills in that environment.

    • John Davis

      And no cell phones or computers with internet access allowed… what a great idea! I’m sure the kids and the teachers would LOVE it !!!!!! /snark

  • zhera

    Dear Dotard,

    Let me remind you of two of the most protected people in history: John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan. They were surrounded by guns. They were surrounded by highly trained people with guns, who’s only job was being protecting the POTUS. These guards did NOT have to teach a class while protecting. They did NOT have to deal with teenagers and all their issues while protecting.

    Another thing: Most of the mass killers in school shootings are students. They know the school, the teachers, the routines of the place. You really think they won’t know which teachers are carrying and which aren’t? It’ll be just minor factor when planning a shooting.

    And another another thing: When the cops arrive and find there’s a gun fight between two individuals, how will they know who’s the good guy with a gun and who’s a bad guy with a gun? What if a student picks up a teacher’s gun – after the teacher has been killed – and there are now two students shooting? Or three?

    In short: Sit down and shut up! You’re talking bullshit!

    • -M-

      Brava! Zehra.

      • zhera

        *curtsies*

  • Acronym Jim

    “Okay sir, let’s go over this tweet again before you send it.”

    “No problem. Ahem! ‘I never said give teachers guns…'”

    “All”

    “What?”

    “All. I never said give ALL teachers guns.”

    “You are some special kind of stupid. The shop teacher would be one of the best shots!”

    “I beg your pardon sir?”

    “They are the ones that handle awls. If you were in the real estate business like me, you’d know this.”

    “But I meant….never mind. I apologize sir. Let’s try ‘I never said give EVERY teacher a gun.’ How does that sound?”

    “That’s what I said the first time!”

    “Yes sir, sorry sir. I think we’re good to go.”

    *taptaptaptaptaptaptaptap*

    • Menergy

      well done!!!

  • paganguy

    So when do we start seeing Ivanka hawking the new Trump line of guns? I mean, there has to be some profit in it for them, right? It’s the only reason he does anything.

  • safari
    • -M-

      Ugh. The second amendment doesn’t prohibit having basic prerequisites for gun ownership or reasonable restrictions on the types of weapons available to the public. There’s a difference between weapons that are useful for hunting, self-defense, etc. and those that are designed for killing crowds of people quickly and easily.

  • Kevin Andrews

    The Shitgibbon’s lying. His delusional existence of KKK racism and lifetime of creating shit-holes is all the Gilded Feces will ever comprehend. Look to who the Shitgibbon can steal from to understand its vile lying mouth.

  • Bambino

    What a fucking idiot! Why not ask the Seals or Snipers in the military to change their career to teaching? Fuckwad! I now see how the characters like Nurse Ratched and Annie Wilkes inspired from.

    • Gretchen

      Might as well make Ranger/Math Teacher an official MOS.

  • John Davis

    Remember that picture going around now of the day Reagan was shot outside a hotel in DC, and 4-5 people around him were authorized folks guarding him had guns. Reagan and Jim Brady were shot that day by the sniper.

    • #DJTK5F

      Baker wasn’t shot. Brady?

      • John Davis

        Ooops, very correct… Getting old here….Will edit if time has not expired.

  • Joe in PA

    And just when you thought that no one could be any worse at dodge-and-weave and LYING than SHS at the WH pressers. He’s not even trying anymore.

  • Joe in PA

    Gun Free zones…like the US Capitol? The WH? All the other state houses? You mean those zones are a magnet for bad people? Oh wait, you do have a point.

  • LeeCMH

    I didn’t say tRump is an asshole. I said he’s a shithole.

  • JaniceInToronto

    Apparently he does not understand that words matter…

    • -M-

      And he has a lifetime of practice being deliberately vague to imply something without saying it specifically enough to be held accountable for it.

  • Nowhereman

    Stupidest president EVER!

  • Gretchen

    I’m a retired teacher, and I worked in several different schools over the course of my career. At no point in all those years did I work with anyone who had done more than a short stint in the military to pay for their education let alone had special ops training. To think 20% of teachers have that kind of skill and training is beyond absurd. The bulk of elementary and middle schools are staffed by women who have never held a gun in their lives. Teachers are already expected to be social workers, quasi-parents, behaviorists, nurses, abuse experts, and statisticians; Navy Seal is a responsibility too far.

    I would also like to point out that while most teachers are good, decent people, not all are. We had a school shooting locally several years ago when a teacher who had not been rehired for the next year returned to the school and shot the principal and assistant principal. I attended this elementary school as a child, so this shooting hit particularly close to home for me.

  • Gregory B

    Great idea! it’s not like the teachers are there to teach, may as well give them something to do… Is it to early for vodka?

    • John Davis

      Goes well with orange juice at this hour…..the vodka I mean.

      Seriously, so teachers are assumed not to have enough to do in their one profession, and now we are supposed to make them prison guards or soldiers as well? Are we going to pay those teachers for holding two jobs at once?

  • DesertSun59

    Once again, 45 and his NRA cronies ONLY want to arm more and more and more people. They refuse to address the actual issue. Military-style weapons – and the projectiles that are most def military style – saturate our society and need to be reduced.

  • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

    Trump is on twitter praising the NRA. How long before he attacks Hogg?

    https://twitter.com/davidhogg111/status/966682259779670017

  • Taylor Bixler
  • narutomania

    No, moron.

    They would serve as the first TARGET, not a deterrent.

    And that’s just ONE of the many reasons why this is such a bad idea that would only make the situation WORSE.

  • Lakeview Bob

    Savage sickos with bad intentions?

    Isn’t that how he is frequently described?

  • TexasBoy

    So…wouldn’t any shooter with an automatic assault weapon, not knowing which teacher could be armed, simply then target them all first?

    • narutomania

      Yes.

      I suspect that an active shooter would be targeting any adult that he* encounters first, no matter what. But it does seem like the shooter would quickly target any teacher as “opposition” right away.

      * (Notice that I used the masculine pronoun “he”. None of these school shooters or kids making “joke” threats about shooting up a school are ever female. Not yet, anyway.)

    • boatboy_srq

      Yes (ditto narutomania).

      So, teachers will all start drawing hazard pay in addition to their base salary, yes?

      /s

  • clay

    As a (former) “gun person”, I have one more thing to say– a handgun, even with a trained shooter, means jack shit against an assault rifle at the other end of a hallway full of panicked kids.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • boatboy_srq

    Naturally Lord Dampnut has no idea what the education environment is like. Where does he think these “only the best” teachers are? Most likely the ones he wants to equip have burned out and gone on to other careers, assuming they ever were enticed to become educators in the first place.

    And guns are one thing, but who would pay for the training and the liability insurance? Schools have no money (Teahadis saw to that) and teacher salaries svck. Are these communities willing to raise taxes to give teachers Glocks and cover their insurance and fees, when right now they can’t be arsed to pay for basic school supplies and habitable school buildings?

  • JWC

    What a complete stupid nincompoop he has NO ides what is going on does he give a shit

  • EqualityForAll

    He sounds more and more like a mad man every day.

  • -M-

    Aside from all other criticisms, this is another case where if he’d bothered to say, or have announced, specifically what he supposedly meant in the first place then the press would have reported that.

    But no, throw out some vague bs about some armed teachers as a deterrent then bitch that no one reported that what he meant was the teachers who are highly trained special forces veterans or something. Spell out your stupid suggestions if you want people to criticize the specifics instead of just the general hand wavy talking points that you actually spew Dotard.

  • Ninja0980

    Since most school shooters end up killing themselves, how are armed teachers going to scare them off.

  • Jim Maloney

    Trump should spend more time speaking clearly and consistently and less time clarifying.

    • -M-

      If he wanted to be a president or any kind of leader, yes. But he won’t. He says things for effect, not to communicate. And I don’t think he usually has a clear consistent plan or goal beyond trying to benefit himself personally or belittle others.

  • boobert

    His gibberish is tiresome!

  • Marides48

    If tRump payed attention in grammar class at school, he could create messages that we could all understand. Instead they are just meaningless bull crap!

    • John Davis

      Forget “grammar”! That’s a seventh and eighth grade skill.. Trump is back at being challenged by fifth grade spelling words.

  • Teachers who have been given guns to “protect” students, is the same thing as giving ‘concealed’ guns to teachers….right?

    • John Davis

      I think that’s sort of assumed…. unless you want your 10th grade math teach to stand in front of 15-year-old kids teaching geometry with an Uzzi clutched in his arms. ( In other words, promotion of the “concealed-carry” lifestyle nationwide, even into some “liberal” states rated high for education, like Massachusetts, where guns are not allowed to be carried by anyone other than authorized law-enforcement personnel.)

  • HKDaniel

    If only there were a highly trained, heavily armed group that’s SOLE responsibility is to protect and serve the public.
    We could support them with our taxes and even provide them with vehicles.
    If only.

  • Patrick Ashton

    I’m sure at least 20% of all current teachers in the US are highly qualified and adept with their military and special training. WTF? How immediate would they be able to fire back when the savage sicko opens a classroom door and starts shooting? Picture the teacher with gun in hand always at the ready for that door to open. Who would be the first person the savage sicko shoots before anyone could get a gun out
    ? Guesses anyone?

    • John Davis

      That “savage sicko” might have bullet-proof armor on, might be assisted by two other “savage-sicko’s” ……one handgun against an AR-15? Tell me how that would work-out for such a teacher. What a crazy idea. “Ready for the door to open”… like all doors in all public school classrooms are now bullet-proof? Turning our public schools into armed camps similar to high security prisons… now THAT will advance public education so well.

  • coram nobis

    And of course, the teachers would have to pay for their own weapons, training and certification, like a lot of other stuff. It’s a sure bet Donald won’t fund this either.

    • John Davis

      No, The Donald would find a way to profit from this !

      • coram nobis

        There is that. Maybe Betsy DeVos has an angle involving charters.

    • Ann Kah

      I wonder how much the NRA paid him to say that.

  • ColoMtnWoman

    Would somebody just put a pair of handcuffs on this pathetic, sick piece-of-shit and perp-walk him to the nearest Federal prison.

    • John Davis

      WHO? Donald Trump? VP Pence? Wayne LaPierre? Marco Rubio ?There’s so many that we may need about 500 pairs of handcuffs..and put them all in one prison cell, somewhere in GTMO? Lots of space there now for terrorists.

  • Mike in NC

    If only John Phillip Souza were still with us; he could write the Trump-LaPierre Frog March!

  • Pizza009

    What he means is:
    I wouldn’t give guns to black teachers, just the hot piece of ass white ones