TORONTO: Police Recover Six Bodies At Site Linked To Suspected Serial Killer Of Gay Men, Search Continues

The Toronto Sun reports:

Toronto police have now recovered the remains of six individuals in an investigation into what they have described as the work of a serial killer. Bruce McArthur, 66, has been charged with five counts of first-degree murder in the disappearances of Andrew Kinsman, Selim Esen, Majeed Kayhan, Soroush Mahmudi and Dean Lisowick.

Speaking Thursday at a home on Mallory Cres., near Bayview and Moore Aves., where Bruce McArthur mowed the owner’s lawn in exchange for storing landscaping equipment in the garage, Det. Sgt. Hank Idsinga said Kinsman’s remains are among those recovered.

Investigators have expanded their search to more than 30 properties tied to McArthur’s landscaping business. Police have been at the Mallory house since Jan. 18, when they arrived with a search warrant forcing Karen Fraser and Ron Smith to leave their home.

The Daily Mail reports:

Rumors of a serial killer have stalked Toronto’s gay community, leading to anger at cops’ apparent failure to take concerns seriously until all too recently. When police finally moved to arrest McArthur they found a young man, handcuffed to a bed but unharmed, in his high-rise apartment.

It has since transpired that they had his apartment under surveillance and were spurred into action when they saw the young man enter McArthur’s home.

Now DailyMailTV can disclose that the 66-year-old landscaper bludgeoned a man with a metal pipe in 2001 and was convicted on three counts – possession of a dangerous weapon, assault with a weapon, and assault causing bodily harm – in 2003.

The attack was so violent that he was sentenced to two years less a day of a conditional sentence, and three years probation as well as having a host of conditions imposed upon being spared jailtime. He was banned from the streets that constitute Toronto’s gay village and forbidden from consorting with male prostitutes.

  • Tread

    So the police knew a dangerous maniac was roaming the streets of Toronto’s gay village and turned a blind eye. I hope the families of those men killed sue the Toronto police for negligence.

    • Bambino

      We do not know how some of these families feel about their deceased homosexual sons or brothers or fathers. Or they are deeply religious and believe it’s their God’s will.

  • Todd20036

    The FUCK!!!

    Was this guy not taken seriously because his victims were “merely” gay male prostitutes?

    • Silver Badger

      No, Bruce was forbidden to consort with gay prostitutes. Who know that he would disobey a direct order?s/

      Edit. I forgot the /s. Sorry

    • m_lp_ql_m

      Probably also because he’s an older white male.

      Full disclosure: I’m an older, white male. On Silverdaddies. :/

      • Juvela Bumblebee

        You do not look all that old in your profile photo… not even a strand of silver… you lucky b-st-rd!!! Then again, I do not look like a frog. Actually, I look like Santa Claus… and so does that serial killer… yeah, not funny. I am totally creeped out.

    • MT YVR

      The thought I keep having is the silence on the part of the TPD in this case is damning as all hell. Who actually knows why they didn’t pursue earlier? They’re certainly not giving anyone any direction on that… so of course we’re going to assume. I just don’t understand how in this day and age they don’t have at least one PR savy person on staff yelling at them to put someone infront of a microphone and at least TRY to explain it.

    • JWC

      Sorta normal, Unfortunately , Gay tends to predicate an investigation and is does not get the attention deserved

    • greenmanTN

      You want to think the Toronto police were acting in good faith, but according to gay activists they ignored community warnings that these disappearances of gay men must be connected. Meanwhile, more people died.

      Homophobia? It certainly seems like it.

      • ChrisMorley

        The same happened with the east London serial killer Stephen Port. The Metropolitan Police in London didn’t connect the dots. Young guys (mainly students) using various apps to meet for sex, bodies showing drug use (including GHB used to knock them out), concerns expressed by gays direct to the police and in the media saying this looks like a serial killer is at work. The police treated them as accidental drug overdoses. At least one death and several rapes could have been prevented, if they’d listened to community concerns, and more if the police had developed their understanding of the range of gay apps and drug use.

      • Juvela Bumblebee

        Homophobia (and perhaps sloth) are most likely. However, even if they were actively investigating, they would not talk about it openly, I suspect, and they were watching that apartment.

    • clay

      This is the REAL gay-panic defense in action– doesn’t even have to go to court to be effective.

    • Bambino

      Brown skins. Until Andrew Kinsman, the previous 4 was minority I believe. That was the time the police denied the theory of serial killing.

    • JCF

      To ask is to answer. Lots of serial killers’ body counts consist of prostitutes, male and female. Because no fucks are given about them.

      Memory eternal. Sex Workers Lives Matter!

  • Karl Dubhe

    I fear he’ll outdo the murders of Robert Pickton. At least there’s no evidence, yet, of him feeding the corpses to pigs. Then selling the pigs to the local slaughterhouses.

    • Silver Badger

      And it doesn’t look like any were thrown off buildings. What a relief.

    • William

      And people wonder why I don’t eat pork.

      • Silver Badger

        It’s not because your Muslim?

        • William

          No, it that I never liked ham. My parents are sure the hospital switched babies.

    • m_lp_ql_m

      That’s not very Ketogenic.

    • MT YVR

      I keep thinking similar things. And I’m out here in BC where Pickton is… It’s not surprising the parallels are being drawn, it certainly feels like a “ah, well it’s only (x), who cares if they go missing” right now.

    • Bambino

      Be it pigs or flowers, still feeding the remains to another form of organic matter.

  • bkmn

    I hope he rots in prison.

  • Paula

    Hopefully, he will meet the business end of a homemade knife in prison.

    • William

      A mop handle will do. See Jeffrey Dahmer’s demise.

      • Todd20036

        How did he die? I knew he was killed in prison, but not the details.

      • BillyDee4

        I have a feeling that Dahmer’s death may have been a hit job. Plenty of poeple in Milwaukee were pissed that he didn’t get the death penalty. I would not be surprised if some of them took up a collection.By the way, I saw Dahmer a few times. I lived half-way between Chicago and Milwaukee and we frequented some of the same places. He was scary.

    • safari

      I get the feeling he is more of a suicide waiting to happen

      • Treant

        I’ll get the Sylvia Plath book and the bottle of pills. You bring the sad music.

        • Silver Badger

          Wouldn’t you need to bring along a gas oven?

          • Treant

            The pills should be sufficient, although the aconite is starting to blossom in sheltered locations here. I’ll grab some on the way out.

        • safari
    • Charlie

      Or, at the very least, become the ‘bitch’ of some 300+ pound black man named Bubba who makes him his ‘girlfriend and shares him with his home boys who enjoy rough sex.

    • JCF

      Is it OK to cheer on prison murder but not rape here? Sometimes JMG ethics mystify me.

      If this man is tried and found guilty, my wish for him is a life-long, but safe, stay in the penitentiary (emphasis on the word’s original meaning).

      • HAAAAAAA

        Is it OK to cheer on prison murder but not rape here?

  • safari

    I am still not clear what lead them to him in the first place.

    • Charlie

      Some may have responded to his profile in Silver Daddies. I speak from experience because years ago I had a profile there with my hubby to meet ‘friends’. Far too many flakes for our taste and plenty of ‘cat fishing’ game players.

      • Reality.Bites

        I was on Silverdaddies for years. Only met up with one person in the whole time.

        I imagine he may have had profiles on grindr or scruff as well.

      • Todd20036

        Cat fishing?

        • AltheaTheCat

          That’s when you create a phony online persona in order to connect with people. There’s an entire MTV show called “Catfish” that profiles these cases.

  • Harveyrabbit

    deleted. Old news. Should read more carefully.

  • Leo
    • That_Looks_Delicious

      Mattis is clearly a democrat and a traitor. Sad. He probably didn’t even clap for Donnie when he made boom-boom in his toilet this morning. Trey Gowdy should set up a committee to investigate his ties to the chemtrails deep state pizza parlor basement. Why is that RINO Hannity not raging into the camera about Mattis being clearly an Obama/Clinton agent? I smell a media cover-up.

      P.S. Ivanka is very concerned and wants to empower whoever it is her dad is about to screw over next. Please buy her knock-offs.

      Sorry if that’s over the top… I’m just really *that* cynical nowadays about this insane situation we are in.

    • JT

      Mad Dog Mattis thought bubble: You’re one crazy motherfucker.

  • greenmanTN

    Scary as hell. I would look at those photos of him and think “He looks like a nice guy.”

    A total aside, but the Milwaukee cops taking a teenage boy, naked and bleeding, BACK to Jeffrey Dahmer’s apartment, while two young black girls were screaming at them that something was not right here, is pretty much my idea of true horror. The cops threatened the black girls because they were being loud and unruly, then took the boy back to Dahmer’s apartment and he was dead an hour later.

    • safari

      I seem to recall they lost their jobs but were rehired.

    • Treant

      That was back when nobody gave two shits about gay lives.

      Nowadays, they might be suspended “under review with pay” until the news dies down…then get reinstated.

    • m_lp_ql_m

      I don’t blame people for distrusting us rice queens after that.

      • Silver Badger

        ? That does not compute. However, I’m not totally sure what a rice queen is. It sounds derogatory, but I guess it depends on how it’s used.

        • m_lp_ql_m

          I’ve been trying to reclaim the term, not very successfully. Yes, most people I’ve run into tend to use it derogatorily.

          • Silver Badger

            Context would indicate that “rice queen” would have something to do with Asians. However the article you quoted talked about black girls yelling at cops for giving a young man back to a white serial killer. I’m not sure how rice queen would apply.

          • The_Wretched

            I went to ‘asian’ first but since Dahmer is a white guy, i then moved to ‘white’. Still sort of too vague.

          • m_lp_ql_m

            Very generally, an older gay white male attracted to younger Asians.

            Dahmer generally went after Black guys, but the story that gets the most airtime, Dahmer’s torture and killing of Sinthasomphone and Dahmer’s molesting of his brother, tend to make people veer toward the assumption that he was a rice queen.

          • Silver Badger

            Thank you. So a rice queen is attracted to younger Asians. I thought it might mean Asian drag queens. Personally, being an older man, I find older men to be more attractive. Race is unimportant.

          • Todd20036

            If an Asian uses that term, I’d see it more as being snarky/self depreciate rather than offensive.

            Similar to when blacks refer to each other as n*****s, or even as gay men might refer to each other as fags.

            I actually do find Asians attractive, but I would not use that term in any profile pic about myself.

        • greenmanTN

          A “rice queen” is someone attracted to Asian men. The problem with it is that it reduces gay Asian men to “rice.”

          I have to say that Japanese singer/musician Ryuichi Sakamoto caused some damp undies for me back in the 80s.

          • Dean

            Ryuichi Sakamoto has always been beautiful. Those cheekbones! Definitely a key factor in me making my mind up about whether I was gay or not. I couldn’t take my eyes off of him whenever I saw him.

          • greenmanTN

            This is probably my favorite song of his.


            Much of it it because It was the soundtrack to one of my most perfect memories. I was walking around Amsterdam at night with a Walkman and head phones on. I turned the corner and there was a cobblestone public square (actually a churchyard across from the homomonument) filled with people and a lot of street performers, gymnasts dressed only in red jockstraps, men swallowing torches and belching flame, everything. And that was my soundtrack.

            Never mind that I thought the lyrics were “Wallenballs are crumbling but the sun is still shining” and I had no idea what Wallenballs were and why they were crumbling. It was only years later I learned that what he saying was “While empires are crumbling.”

            Oh. Oops!

          • olandp

            He was beautiful, probably still is.

    • Reality.Bites

      More than that. In a city like Toronto, with a huge immigrant population, there’s a larger than normal percentage of young and youngish gay men who don’t have family here and don’t have family they’re out to at home.

      A lot of them seek out relationships with older men and on the surface he’d seem like a great catch.

      Of course a lot of other people would think he’s a great catch, including many whose families know they’re gay and live a 15-minute drive away.

      From my own dating history as an older man in Toronto (and not caring whether someone had close family ties or not) it would be perhaps a 50/50 split among the two types of men, but he may have been clever enough to avoid the ones with families that the media would listen to.

      • greenmanTN

        I’ve never gone into it in any detail here, but I met a guy on a gay “dating” site and did the things you’re supposed to do, met him in a public place to see if if he seemed weird, but he passed the test and we went to a motel. I am not a prude, actually enjoy “dirty talk,” but he turned out to be a freak. “I know bikers who are HIV positive and I want to watch them rape you and give you AIDS” is not dirty talk, it’s fucking scary. I had put a box cutter in my cargo shorts “just in case” and I ended up holding it on him while I got dressed.

        That pretty much ended my “dating site” career.

        You never can tell.

  • Treant

    Didn’t the police up there delay somewhat on getting around to possibly doing anything about this guy potentially in the near future…perhaps, if they’re motivated that day?

    I’d say some of these deaths are due to disrespect, disavowal of responsibility, and sheer dumbassery.

    • Ninja0980

      Not to mention (sad to say) Canada’s laws on punishing people who commit violent crimes.

      • ByronK

        How do you figure that?

        • shivadog

          Two years for trying to bludgeon someone to death. He should have got life for that. Apparently the USA isn’t the only place that lets people get away with violence way too easy.

  • Ninja0980

    Something tells me if this guy’s victims had been straight white men, something would have been done about him a long time ago.

    • Treant

      Even Aileen Wuornos got seven before they got her, and she was blatantly obvious and not really trying to conceal that much.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        I remember reading an article a while ago about prosecutors complaining about the “CSI effect” on juries. People see on TV shows where this crack team assembles these neat, perfect, tied-up packages of incontrovertible evidence and then they expect the same in real life.

        • Treant

          Oh, I can believe that! IRL, I expect sloppy work, sloppily done cases, and people who are overworked and under-paid.

          And no, I don’t even consider DNA evidence automatically conclusive. Contamination or outright intentional fakery can and does happen all the time.

          (Don’t get me started on lie detectors. If ever asked, I’ll tell them to get a court order; since the evidence cannot be used because it’s so inaccurate and subjective, you’re not coming anywhere near me with that thing).

          • Ninja0980

            My mom grew up in Kansas when BTK was killing people
            The husband of one of the victims flunked two lie detector tests and was considered the prime suspect until BTK sent photos only the killer could have taken.
            Before that, people had the husband pegged as guilty due to said failed tests,the delay in finding his wife’s body and the fact he stopped cooperating with police after he got a lawyer who wisely advised him to stop talking to the folks who had told him they thought he did and just needed evidence to prove it.
            Good thing the police didn’t act like armchair cops or the husband would have been in jail until 2003 at least.

          • ByronK

            John Oliver did a very good segment last year on exactly that topic. What people think is conclusive evidence sometimes is anything but.

    • HZ81

      You know it, friend. You know it.

      Look how little is being reported in the states regarding the rash of murders of Trans folk. If a straight white chick doesn’t come back from vacation—wall-to-wall coverage.

    • Bambino

      Homophobia and racism certainly play a part in the delayed of investigation. Not to mention a culture of distrust with the police institution. Who knows the families themselves could be homophobes and rather not having relatives, friends and neighbors talking about their homosexual sons.

    • TampaZeke

      Or pretty blond women.

  • MT YVR

    As y’all know I’m IT support. I work for an HIV/AIDS research group and out here in Vancouver we’ve got studies in our Downtown East Side going on 30 years now. We’ve had spaces there as long as I’ve worked here.

    So when Pickton happened the only thing I remember thinking was : what fucking took so long. EVERYONE knew. EVERYONE knew shit was going down. I had the mindboggling experience of opening a paper one day to a woman I’d met through work. At this much of a fucking remove and still I’d met one of the the endless number of other women who’d died at his hand.

    And everyone fucking knew.

    I look at this case and I can’t imagine what it must be like in Toronto right now. I can take the incessant deaths of the 80s and 90s… but while it was horrible it wasn’t so clearly the machinations of an intentional malice. That shit gets into the air, it gets caught in everything.

    My sympathies to all the friends and family. I hate that my only thought is… the number will only get higher. It has that feel to it.

    • Ninja0980

      Sad is people might have known but they were aspects of society people viewed as expendable so no one did anything.

      • MT YVR

        I know a bunch of women who were working the streets back then. They say they all knew. And no, the cops did not at all care to listen to them or make any effort to look into it. The number of Aboriginal women that were effected by this was truly stunning. Each layer of it was : well. They don’t matter. And their communities never felt they could talk to the cops about anything, historically being ignored.

        • Treant

          We had to call 911 once, my husband thought he was having a heart attack (gastritis attack plus a panic attack on top of that, so that was “good”).

          The paramedics were cool and very nice, but the accompanying cop did nothing but glare at both of us during his entire visit. It got to the point where I simply glared back, I had other shit to worry about.

          Perhaps he always glares but…he was definitely eyeing up the place and the visible flicker of thought over his features was, “These fags get all this?”

          • MT YVR

            When we were robbed? Exactly that. When we had two truckloads of guys scream they were going to “kill you fucking faggots” for a block walking home one afternoon? Exactly that. Took them 3 hours at that point to answer the call (we were fine but wanted people to know they were out looking for someone to jump who was less likely to fight them on it).

            When himself had his heart attack a year ago? Nothing like that. In fact the one paramedic who told me I couldn’t ride with him and I should start walking or get a cab now? Was royally bitched out by the entire rest of the team when they heard that.

            How did they hear that? Oh. I might have waited until they were putting himself in the ambulance when I told him that I was going to head out, not to worry I’d find him in the hospital, but I couldn’t go with- Oh HEEELL nah. Everyone turned and glared at the paramedic and the one said “oh, no, you come with me.”

            That was it. Otherwise I was front and centre for everyone. “Are YOU ok?”

            But it took years for us to get here. I think that’s why I want to believe that TPD has a reason, any reason. I don’t want to think any of the PDs are still like this.

          • Treant

            It does seem to be changing. If the paramedics had pulled any shit? It would have been a harshly whispered, “Send me the boy,” to the other one just before the invective came out.

            That’d give the cop something to do.

    • Treant

      Was this a typo or did he kill women, too? “[W]omen who’d died at his hand.” Cancel that, I’m simply too dumb to read. Different case.

      I came to the conclusion a very long time ago that, if I were ever murdered, the police would take one look at my husband or boyfriend at the time and “we’ll get right on that.” By which I mean that I’d be featured on an episode of Cold Case in the 2035 revival if anybody ever got off their ass.

      • MT YVR

        Pickton. I was talking about Pickton. He killed only women. Usually sex workers, homeless and a loooot of First Nations women.

        I always figured that if I was murdered everyone would look at my friends / partner and “Well… that makes sense.”


        • Treant

          Ditto, really. Just like I could never poison anybody as I’m well-known to raise some interesting and very poisonous plants. Including the pictured aconite.

          Nice new photo! You neglected to tell us you were hot, however.

          • MT YVR

            I’ve actually posted that once before… and the other one was me too. 😛 Just in leather.

            But thank you! Yer sweet. I’ll kill you last… 😛

            EDIT: Actually my big thing is with this number of tattoos I can’t commit any kind of crime anymore. They’d find me instantly. lol My husband, however… if I die… see what he’s up to is all I’m sayin’.

          • Treant

            “He’s the guy who looks like the Sistine Chapel roof.”

            “This one?”


    • JWC

      Further the last time was out the way Much of the Picton farm has gone to Real estate I really thot that somewhere in the middle of that a small monument should have been erected in commemoration That , however would have offended the sensibilities of the developers , owners and all others ho would choose to forget

  • JWC

    from what i have heard those that knew him casually he appeared to be a kindly person initially

    • Reality.Bites

      I imagine he’d need to be, in order to run his business successfully.

  • now that female hulk CD has calmed down a little bit, she once again has to note the reason why her favorite guilty pleasure is lazy drunken/high evenings watching Cop Show reruns.

    it’s not what you think. basically, CD’s dad was a true hero of a law enforcement official, and she grew up worshiping him. as a child she honestly believed that all cops and judges were like those in her family: flawed in harmless ways, mostly. but Honest & Just. like they are on the (obviously fantasy) cop shows. dad and i used to watch them together, when he was in my care.

    the last few decades have been really Hard on me, not in the good way. report after report, despite our advances in legal terms and social trends, about what? cops who refuse to protect us. even in ‘our’ own sanctuary cities. and instead of getting better after things like marriage equality and a couple of high ranking out and proud sorts? no, it’s actually getting worse. (and you marriage equality fundraisers: i told you so, back then, that this would happen. marriage equality =/= equality.)

    the main difference b/w now and the late 70s is that the fascists are now doing their Thing to white straight pot-smoking middle class kids with big college loan debt, and they ARE on our side. which is probably why they, like us, are experiencing what it means to be the target of police violence. but this just makes me even more female hulk smash cray-crazy.

  • Boreal

    Sorry to say but I knew there would be more bodies and probably still more to come.

  • netxtown

    Hope they hang the mother fucker.

    • Canadian Observer

      The last hanging in Canada was in 1962. Capital punishment (for murder) was abolished by Parliament in 1976. Capital punishment for a few other offences still on the books (treason and equivalents under the National Defence Act) was abolished in 1998. There has been a relatively steady decline in the murder rate (per 100K – as opposed to the total number of murders) since abolition.

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  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Sadly, this is far from over and the body count isn’t done. Tragic and senseless, the only mercy is that as the victims are found their loved ones will have some answers, the rest of which will have to come at trial…hopefully.

  • Sashineb

    Horrible news. I think we all knew it was just a matter of time before the announcement came, but it is still very shocking. Here’s the CBC article, with the interview with the lead investigator:

  • ISTlife

    Its not just these missing men that have been ignored. Back in November, a young woman went missing in the Village.

    Police were notified, the now all too common missing posters were put up by friends and family in the neighbourhood.

    Her mother was the person that found her body four days later, about a 1 minute walk from where she was last seen. Police somehow missed it (if they bothered with a search). What is scary is that the location the body was found is less than 100 feet from the street, at the back of a driveway (not an ‘alley” as portrayed by the media”.
    In a building that was (and is) being renovated. (I keep meaning to photograph the location to give a better idea of how not hidden it is)

    Through all of this, with several people disappearing, police presence in the area hadn’t increased that I’ve been able to notice.