Mattis Dodges On Cost Of Trump’s Military Parade

The Hill reports:

Defense Secretary James Mattis on Wednesday dodged a question about why the Pentagon should spend time and money planning a military parade requested by President Trump when the military has been complaining about budget woes.

“I think what my responsibility is to make certain I lay out the strategy and make the argument for the oversight of Congress to make the determination of fully funding us. As far as the parade goes again, the president’s respect, his fondness for the military, I think is reflected in him asking for these option,” Mattis told reporters at the White House during a briefing.

The Associated Press reports:

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham says he supports President Donald Trump’s plan for a military parade in Washington – as long as it’s not a “cheesy” show of military might.

Graham said on Twitter Wednesday that any parade should focus on “sacrifice, and saying ‘Thank You’ to those who protect our nation.” He also told CNN that a parade risks being “kind of cheesy and a sign of weakness” if it’s just about showing off military muscle.

  • crewman

    Is it treasonous to ask how expensive a military parade for Trump is going to be? Sure. Why not. I think it’s treasonous.

  • Eric Lewis

    40,000 homeless veterans in America and Trump wants a parade.

    • Smokey

      ^This^

      • ben-andy

        If the government shuts down, can they still have the parade? I mean, it isn’t “essential” and really starts to look like a military coup.

    • M Jackson

      Does anybody honestly believe that man cares about homeless veterans?

      • pj

        or hungry kids

        • kareemachan

          Or anybody but himself?

          • David Walker

            ^^This about sums it up^^

    • PlutoAnimus

      So the parade would cost the same as giving every one of those homeless veterans $500?

      Sickening.

    • JackFknTwist

      Let Mexico pay for it.

    • Paddycakes2001

      Deplorable.

    • JCF

      Whaddaya bet he’ll want to hire them to fill seats? “Comes w/ free hot meal, and hit of whatever escape-from-reality drug you’re addicted to!””

  • Charlie 2001

    How do you think they will handle protests? Asking for a friend.

  • bkmn

    No parade until our veterans are well taken care of. Period.

    • Todd20036

      Now when you say taken care of, you mean swept away out of sight so they can die alone.
      Right?

  • bkmn
    • Joe in PA

      Has Tammy Duckworth weighed in? It will be epic I’m sure.

  • BuckyB12

    Just another Trump toady – he knows what a ridiculous idea this is but he won’t say so. Shameful that so many so-called public servants put themselves over the country.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Uh, when is a military parade NOT a flagrant exercise in cheesy military might?

  • barracks9

    Participation by the Pentagon will be on a strictly volunteer basis.

    Mandatory volunteers, that is. “You HAVE to be there (and goose-step), but we ain’t gonna pay you!”

  • Boreal
    • geoffalnutt

      Fondness for Putin.

    • Card

      Too much hair on that top image!

  • another_steve

    I and my men are practicing to be part of the parade.

    Here’s a clip of our recent rehearsal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2ecasPqhgk

  • misterjack

    O/T Democrats flip another House seat in deep-red Missouri!

  • Tomcat

    I have no doubt he would claim it as part of his re-election campaign if they do march for him.

  • bkmn
    • The_Wretched

      Yeah, I do some work on db clean up from time to time. They should review their data handling and figure out how to purge the bad data.

    • robindaybird

      yeah, it’s way too easy to make dozens of false accounts often for the purpose of harassment – there was an issue that someone in Japan who hated certain franchises created thousands of accounts to spam ‘abuse report’ on artists (both official and fan) of those series to get their accounts suspended.

  • tim870

    Apparently, LindseyBelle has never met Donald Trump either. It’s going to be extremely, over the top cheesy like no one has ever seen, you silly closet queen!

  • Leo

    O_O Ok, this is FAR WORSE than initial reports
    https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/961318087554486272

    • The_Wretched

      That explains all the questions to SHS about his security clearance today. It also makes clear that this WH does not have internal process to ensure only cleared people have access to classified info. Olde Schoole we’d have called that a national security risk and a big deal.

    • Karl Dubhe

      I’m wondering how many of the people who work in your White House have “second” jobs with other nations. It’s not going to be just Russia that’ll have agents in that place.

      You’d think the Republicans would have been paying attention to national security.

      • The_Wretched

        So far it’s only Russia (and near Russia like Ukraine). That fact is a big part of why I think there’s something there for Mueller’s investigation. All the other ’emoluments’ are small things on the edges like chinese trademarks for Ivanka and a few hundred dollars here and there from diplomats using Trump properties.

        • Karl Dubhe

          If the Russians have operatives, then so do the Chinese.

          I’d also be very surprised if an assortment of European ‘security’ agencies have not placed people in jobs there; if only to keep an eye on the other nation’s spies.

          • The_Wretched

            I’m sure they are around but the only ones Donny etal want to deal with are the Russians. The monomania is oddly specific.

          • dogdadny

            Yes. And if they hadn’t before, they sure as shit do now.

    • BobSF_94117

      WTF? He sees everything and doesn’t have a security clearance!!??!?!!???!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?

      • prixator

        You seem surprised.

  • AtticusP

    First the wall, and now a parade. Indict the motherfucker, already!

    I almost always hate parades, however… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9d9235045a30fdeb985e323ef080da4eaca8b98ec597b3e9ee25d9b1c6db24df.jpg

  • greenmanTN

    It’s unfortunate Leni Riefenstahl isn’t still around to film it.

    • Michael White

      are you a historian or just old enough, like I, to know about her movie?

      • greenmanTN

        I’m not a historian, but obscure things stick in my head like static cling.

        Strange but true: Maybe you’ve heard about how the movie The Wizard Of Oz synchs up perfectly with Pink Floyd’s Dark Side Of The Moon? (It’s on YouTube if you’re curious.) Well Leni Riefenstahl’s Olympia synchs up perfectly with David Byrne’s The Catherine Wheel. Swear to god the music turns dark every time a Nazi is onscreen and turns joyous every time one of the athletes from one of the allied countries is competing.

        I suppose it would be redundant at this point to mention I smoked a LOT of pot in my 20s.

        • AmeriCanadian

          And in only a few short years, you get to live through the 20’s again! Yay!

        • Lars Littlefield

          “Happy, happy all the time, time.”

    • Harveyrabbit

      No but I bet Dinesh D’Souza is thinking of making a movie about it.

    • nocadrummer

      She was an amazing filmmaker. Too bad she got mixed up with Hitler’s crowd. There’s a documentary on her – “The Wonderful, Horrible Life of Leni Riefenstahl” (1993).

      There’s no real conclusion as to whether she actually supported Hitler, or saw him as an opportunity to do her work – women in film were virtually unheard of at the time. Or a bit of both. I strongly suspect she had some support for him.

      • greenmanTN

        I saw that. I do think she had Nazi sympathies or at the very least got involved because it would advance her career/work.

        I thought it was interesting that much of her late work was done with the Nuba tribe in Africa, considering so much of her earlier work was done in support of a racist regime.

        http://www.liberallifestyles.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/leni-31.jpg

  • Rex

    The Resistance March on the same day will draw more attendees.

    • The_Wretched

      The Resistance March might comingle with the military one and then stop walking.

    • Sam_Handwich

      which Dotard will insist are “anti-military” protests

      i say no protests, not in DC anyway. let the parade be a bust like the inauguration

      • bkmn

        Protests in every major city except DC, I like that.

      • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

        Disagree. People are really upset. People are ready to stand in front of the tanks.

  • Rex

    Is there a federal budget line item for feeding Trump’s ego?

    • safari

      In college the student organization called it the “sunshine fund”. For blowing sunshine up administrators’ asses.

    • The_Wretched

      “Executive time”

  • another_steve

    Is Jared going to mince down the D.C. boulevard with all those big guns?

    My butch Jared.

    What a man.

    • Joe in PA

      So the Beefeaters is already flowing at your house I see.

    • Mr. Ric

      In chains.

      • another_steve

        You’re exciting me.

  • Tomcat

    While trying to find the money to fund the government for a few more weeks he wants to spend it foolishly to have a military march so he can feed his ego.
    Tell the military to STAND DOWN on this.

  • Leo
    • The_Wretched

      GOOD! She’s at least hearing the ‘dems are spineless and at least need to stand up’ message. Next up, advertising and moar dems taking part.

      • bkmn

        Can she make sure Schumer gets the message too?

        • The_Wretched

          Yeah, not sure why the Senate Dems are quite so willing to roll over.

          • Leo

            Polling. Long story but I know some people that work for him. It’s mostly about shutdown vs. DACA polling and red state Dems. Whether that’s the right calculus is up for debate….

          • The_Wretched

            Seems rather like an excuse and political malpractice to just ‘oh the polls’ and be done with it. It’s not exactly a winning strategy or a way to move the ball forward. Instead, so long as they get a cookie, they go away happy. (the debate ;p)

          • Butch

            I mentioned on another thread my belief that the problem with the DACA versus keeping the government open poll was that it was presented as a binary choice, as if you can do one or the other but not both.

    • Richard, another Canuck

      I hope someone takes her a bottle of water soon…

  • geoffalnutt

    Mattis hasn’t slept since Trump was “sworn” in. The bags under his eyes (which were always big) seem even bigger. It’s horrifying.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    So they’ll waste millions on a parade for the military and the despot in the White Trashed House…but they won’t spend those same millions on the men and women who have served their nation and are now in need of financial and medical help. Ok then, just wanted to clear that up.

  • Leo
    • Sam_Handwich

      i’m hoping what that results in is House Dems leaving republicans to pass the bill themselves. which could be messy

  • Leo
    • safari

      ¯_(ツ)_/¯

      • safari

        $1.5Tn to the rich out of the nation’s future but apparently this budget just goes too far.

  • JIM W

    Members of the military really don’t want to march in any parades. Small units may do it as a recruiting tool. To had a parade of one military unit marching after another isn’t what the services are about. If they add tanks, rocket launchers, etc, it will be a joke.

  • canoebum

    I have no problem with a parade, as long as the tanks take aim at the reviewing stand and rid us of this menace. If they can’t get live rounds, just bulldoze the fucker down and let the medical examiner sort things out later. Other than that, it would be a complete waste of time and money. Aren’t there schools and hospitals in Puerto Rico that need repair?

    • Ish

      Posted of course, for historical purposes only.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhu-YgCyPz4

      • Rocco

        Now there’s an idea…

      • canoebum

        The difference being, of course, that Sadat actually tried to do something worthwhile, and was killed for it. The Menace has no redeeming acts in his life. Not a single one.

  • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

    Will white women ever get the hint that the republicans don’t give any fucks about them?

    https://twitter.com/gabrielsherman/status/961319979059765248

    • AmeriCanadian

      No, unfortunately. Some women make the worst misogynists.

      • Karl Dubhe

        God made me out of your rib, honey…

        /religious nuttery.

      • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

        Remember in October when Kelly said that women should be “sacred”

        https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-kelly-women-sacred-humans_us_59e91025e4b0df10767be25e

        • AmeriCanadian

          I don’t, actually. But thanks for the link!

        • RaygunsGoZap

          Yes. Sugar-coated misogyny.

        • Kate

          It’s clearly a misreading. The message was that women should be scared.

          • JerryRich

            Maybe he meant “scarred”.

        • It Takes a Village, People

          An awful man. In context, he was defending the abuse of women.

    • Rillion

      Lovely guy that Kelly is…

    • Gustav2

      No “he is just an old marine” excuses like Barnicle gave Kelly today on Mourning Joe.

    • CJAS

      They know Republicans actively dislike them. And they don’t care ’cause white nationalism.

    • It Takes a Village, People

      Strangely, I have no sympathy whatsoever for any woman who would work in the White House with this team. They knew what they were getting in to.

  • PickyPecker
    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      *charade

    • William
      • Lars Littlefield

        For those of you living in Big Sky Country:

        I come from Montana,
        I wear a bandana,
        My bone spurs are of silver,
        My pony is gray.
        When l ride the ranges,
        My luck never changes,
        One foot in the stirrup,
        I gallop away!

  • Butch

    Some hilarious stuff over at No More Mr. Nice Blog about how military people actually feel about participating in these parades…..
    http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/

  • Leo
    • William

      WTF?

    • RaygunsGoZap

      So they murdered him to cover up their petty theft?

    • JCF

      “A longtime Special Operations consultant who has been briefed on the
      investigation said Melgar had discovered that the SEALs were stealing
      cash from the informants fund and told them he was going to report their
      activity.”

      Memory eternal. Justice for Sgt Melgar!

  • Ranger One

    How bad does it have to get, before there is a civil coup? I mean how crazy does he have to get?

    • AmeriCanadian

      I would have thought that we would have the answer to that question by now. But it does not appear that the edge has been reached. Frankly, I’m not sure there’s an edge any longer.

      • Ranger One

        We have had stable government for so long, I think even the fourth estate does not know how to deal with it.

  • narutomania

    Congress: if you fund THIS, then you are in favour of nothing but WASTE and EGOTISM. Just put an end to this madness.

  • Tor

    Cheesey is what it’s all about.

    • BobSF_94117

      Well, cheesy is certainly an option. One can have a truly awe-inspiring military parade, but they’re huge and expensive.

      • Tor

        We’re talking Donald Trump here.

  • Taylor Bixler
  • Leo
  • dcurlee

    Biggest crock of bullshit today

    • Leo

      And we aren’t even at the 5-9 dump portion yet.

  • PickyPecker
    • OdieDenCO

      second, but only if treatment is made available

      • Lars Littlefield

        That’s the America I want to live in!

    • David Walker

      Joan Blondell talks through it first, but I have this cued to the restatement by Etta Moten. Either way, it’s horrible the way we’ve treated our vets.
      https://youtu.be/5MGYz3vRdzA?t=2m17s

    • JackFknTwist

      The same amount of money.

  • PickyPecker

    You can call directly to the DOD Press relations number and voice your concerns
    (703) 697-5131
    Alexandria, VA

    You can call your State Senator by simply dialing this number and entering your zipcode
    (844) 311-7810

    (202) 456-1111 is the WH Comment number.

  • Larry Hankamer

    Trump’s showing off big, powerful guns, tanks and rockets = tiny penis.

  • boobert

    And lindseybelle bell flops again!

  • coram nobis

    “The Pentagon didn’t budget for it, did you, General?”

  • anne marie in philly

    what about the $800M missing, mattis? WHERE THE FUCK IS IT?

    • Dazzer

      Down the back of a $300M sofa

  • Friday’s_cat

    Glorious Leader Dim Dong Trump?

    • Tomcat

      I call him Wee Dick Trump.

  • Tomcat

    Do we trust trump enough to amass our troops and weapons in Washington.
    Hell knowing him it might be a military overthrow of our government by trump and his comrades, the Russians.

  • kareemachan
  • Mike

    Tens of millions of dollars so Trump may look out on military phalli parading down Pennsylvania Ave., imagining that no one suspects how small and shriveled his own little soldier is.

  • Dana Chilton

    Anyone remember the outrage in conservative media over the fake story about the costs of Obama’s state trips? Bachman went on and on about it and FOX ran it constantly.

  • narutomania

    Everyone – So how much is it going to cost to put on this shit show?

    Mattis – Well, you see … my job is to …

    Everyone – Yeah, yeah. But how much will it cost?

    Mattis – Well, you see … I’m going to set up a team to …

    Everyone – HOW MUCH will the fucking fiasco cost?!?!

    Mattis – Well, you see … over here we have this list of things to do …

    Everyone – Fuck off, you useless piece of shit.

  • Barry S G

    I suppose that the troops will have to start practicing goose-stepping.

  • EdA

    Just a reminder that Commander Bone Spurs had the chance himself to get a Purple Heart and to go for walks with lots of friends in combat drag but passed on the opportunity — multiple times. AND that this is what he wanted for his inauguration, not just because he saw it in Paris many months later.

  • David Walker

    From the AP article: “Sen. Lindsey Graham says he supports President Donald Trump’s plan for a military parade in Washington – as long as it’s not a ‘cheesy’ show of military might.” Oh, come on, Lindsey. You just enjoy looking at men in uniform.

    • Friday

      Did they forget this is the United States? Anything more than buzzing a stadium with warplanes or a port homecoming *is* too cheesy… Or fascist, for us. We got honor guards for the rest. It’s not *supposed* to look like a junta or Red Square. That’s the *point.*

  • ClevelandJim

    Well, the Pentagon DOES have that $800 million slushfund we heard about yesterda rolling about somewhere–that oughta cover parade costs, no?

  • Halou

    Trump’s respect/fondness for the military?

    Not enough to answer when called to serve, cadet bone spurs.

  • Mildred Pierce

    a social media attendance and broadcast boycott is in order here…….

    • Craig Howell

      It’ll be boffo on Faux News! Other media outlets should devote appropriate programs to the plight of homeless veterans, military waste fraud & abuse, neglect of Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands, etc. etc. and so forth.

  • Stuart Wyman-Cahall

    April 20th sounds appropriate.

    • infmom

      Either that or May 1.

      • Stuart Wyman-Cahall

        Stalin or Hitler… our choice.

  • andrew

    Trump wants that military parade to remind him of his glory days serving in the U.S. Military. Oh he didn’t serve. Never mind.

    • BobSF_94117

      He couldn’t even march in the parade if they had one… bone spurs!!!

  • fuzzybits

    Oh please,let there be a bone spurs float!

  • Stuart Wyman-Cahall

    Does the prez get to pick and choose who marches? Rainbow flags, please.

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    Generals following orders of their Commander in Chief is one thing, but it really worries me that they want to please their leader and keep him happy.

  • infmom

    Fondness for the military? Yeah, ask Tammy Duckworth about that.

    • Gretchen

      Henceforth all decisions about the military should be deferred to Tammy Duckworth. Trump can’t be trusted with latrine duty.

      • infmom

        Mainly because as the saying goes he can’t tell shit from Shinola.

  • Friday

    Useless narcissistic display cause wannabe fascist’s ego has a boo-boo. The money? Somene else’s.

  • Ninja0980

    Forget about helping homeless veterans or give pay increases to military members, we have to throw a parade because Trump is insecure about the size of his dick.

    • Can’t we just have every journalist begin his question with an aside about how impressive ol’ 45’s dick is?

  • R W C

    Will 76 trombones be included?
    https://youtu.be/eBQWsBiM5YY

    • R W C

      Con man Donald Trump, who poses as U.S. President sells tanks and planes and government secrets to hostile nations, promises to train the members of the new world order. Donald is no leader, however, and plans to skip the details with no thought to consequences or obstruction of justice. Prim lawyer and piano teacher Robert Mueller sees through him, but when Donald helps his oldest son, Donnie, Jr. with his adoption issues and social awkwardness, Robert begins to become fascinated with Donald’s deep state of stupidity. Donald risks being caught in his own web of lies.

  • BobSF_94117

    “…As far as the parade goes again, the president’s respect, his fondness
    for the military, I think is reflected in him asking for these option,”

    How about a pay raise instead?

  • Mr. Ric

    Didn’t they just lose $800M? And two years ago misplaced 2 trillion? And then ten or twelve years back 2 trillion more? And now we’re giving them more money?

    • Gretchen

      I know a school bookkeeper who could help them with keeping track of their expenses. A paperclip didn’t get ordered without that woman taking three bids, getting six signatures and making two copies of the receipt. She would scare the BDU’s off those generals.

  • BobSF_94117

    We went through this before. They can’t have a military parade with equipment because American streets aren’t built to withstand the weight.

    • It Takes a Village, People

      LOL. What makes you think they care? They’ll blame the ruined streets on minorities and Democrats.

      • And “illegal” immigrants.

  • It Takes a Village, People

    Why do they hold press conferences if they are not going to answer questions? Why attend at all if they get huffy about every question from the press? Why did that guy even show up if he didn’t want to discuss the parade? Most importantly of all, why does the media show up for this crap?

  • Bernie

    Not to worry. Trump promises that he’ll make North Korea pay for it.

  • Gianni

    If the military is so underfunded, as Donnie is wont to constantly remind us, why should such a show of military might (like dictatorships around the world love to display) that will take a chunk out of the military budget, be wasted on a parade simply because the idea tickles the idiot in the Oval Office? He needs to be cornered with such a question.

  • Puckfair52
    • LeeCMH

      Nice sequin outfits.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      “As a matter of fact, I was thinking of doing just that!” replied the asshole. “You have a great mind, Puckfair. You think just like me. I want you to be my next National Secrurity Advisor.”

  • Chris Bartlett

    I think we’re long overdue for another March of the Bonus Army

  • rednekokie

    Well, he first has to train the troops to goose – step.

  • 2patricius2

    If he has a parade, I suggest the parade be peppered with rainbow and trans flags, and that there be a banner at the front proclaiming: “Don’t F**k with the Queers.” And that a press release be put out claiming that this was by order of Melania.

  • twb6yz

    He’s not thanking them, he’s expecting them to do this for his own fucking entertainment.

  • Sam

    If tRump wants a French parade so much, perhaps we should go for something a bit more authentic. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b5928208b8aba0b8e505c50118697f8400e1efb8e1b614bb1ced1f7553a77a78.jpg

  • JWC

    It’s an easy question Gen Mattis spend $0.00

  • JCF

    So very brave. /s

  • Ann Kah

    Mattis is holding his tongue to The Donald, but hoping desperately that congress won’t OK the funds for this charade. So am I.

  • KnownDonorDad

    Use the money to aid homeless veterans.

  • Given they are working on a plan, how much has already been spent on planning and logistics already? Bet a cool mil wouldn’t cover it up to this point. Party of fiscal responsibility, my arse!