Homeland Security Confirms Russian Government Hackers Successfully Penetrated US Voter Roll Systems

NBC News reports:

The U.S. official in charge of protecting American elections from hacking says the Russians successfully penetrated the voter registration rolls of several U.S. states prior to the 2016 presidential election.

In an exclusive interview with NBC News, Jeanette Manfra, the head of cybersecurity at the Department of Homeland Security, said she couldn’t talk about classified information publicly, but in 2016, “We saw a targeting of 21 states and an exceptionally small number of them were actually successfully penetrated.”

Jeh Johnson, who was DHS secretary during the Russian intrusions, said, “2016 was a wake-up call and now it’s incumbent upon states and the Feds to do something about it before our democracy is attacked again.”

“We were able to determine that the scanning and probing of voter registration databases was coming from the Russian government.” NBC News reported in Sept. 2016 that more than 20 states had been targeted by the Russians.

  • Tomcat

    Now tell us how the Russians had NO effect on the election outcome again.

    • Gustav2

      They wanted to know who was R, D, or I to target ads and propaganda

      • Bad Tom

        Micro targeting requires fine grained information.

        • Gustav2

          Name, address, precinct, frequency of voting. The way we are divided, they could guess race by name and address.

    • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

      They just did for the heck of it. Bored one day. Killing time. Nothing to see folks

      • I mean, I hack the voter rolls whenever I am bored.

        • Bad Tom

          Rainy day diversion. I mean, who hasn’t hacked the voter registration rolls?

  • kevway

    “successfully penetrated” 😉

    • another_steve

      Yes.

      That got me hard.

    • Chucktech

      Yeah, the voters were successfully penetrated fucked.

      • Bad Tom

        We can be sure they were NOT wearing a condom.

        • Strepsi

          and they were rammed repeatedly with a slick, thick — what are we talking about again?

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      But just the tip!

  • Brooklyn Joe

    Trump ” Nope – didn’t happen!” /s

    • clay

      That’s not sarcastic or snark, but a reasonable approximation of his reaction.

      • Bad Tom

        “Believe me!”
        ——-
        Rather not, actually.

        • B Snow

          Physically unable to, actually.

  • TK

    And of course Trump wants their help again in 2018 and 2020. Which is why the orange shit weasel refuses to make any public statements against the Russian hacking while all the other agencies are warning of more attacks.

  • safari

    Which states?

  • another_steve

    Trump hates her now. Her pussy is no longer grab-able.

    She’s history.

  • Travis Morrow

    Tillerson was out today saying so and then in the next breath saying we aren’t better protected and aren’t planning to be.

    • Chucktech

      And nobody asked him why the fuck not?

  • Chucktech


    There is no evidence that any of the registration rolls were altered in any fashion, according to U.S. officials.

    Suppose there was. Would you tell us?

    • Rocco

      Thank you. Should be headline on every American daily….

    • The_Wretched

      Can we even tell? (no, in many cases we cannot due to several reasons including destruction of evidence by the republicans)

    • ClevelandJim

      Oooh, Chuck…Chuck-Chuck-Chuck-Chuck-Chuuuuck.
      (channeling my mother when I used to ask her questions she didn’t want to answer)

      • Joe in PA

        Well done sir. 🙂

        • ClevelandJim

          😉

    • Bad Tom

      THAT’S CLASSIFIED!

  • R W C

    And, tell us what will be done to prevent Russia from probing deeper, yielding more influence in future elections.

    • Chucktech

      As long as the traitorous, party-before-country Republicans are in charge, not a goddam thing.

      • R W C

        Then Ms Manfra tell us how the absence of prevention is not collusion.

    • clay

      I’m sure Kansas’ Kris Kobach will get right on that . . .

  • Steven B

    O/T but hawt! Hayley Kiyoko’s “Curious” | BOY VERSION with Donald Romain https://youtu.be/haqDh0bJObo

  • The_Wretched

    I’m willing to beat one dead horse – We need our elections to be auditable. That means preserving the votes in a way that’s difficult for Russians to tamper with. To wit, PAPER BALLOTS and HAND COUNTING. Is this perfect? no. Is it a damn sight better that ‘gee i can’t tell the machines were changed or not’.

    • bzrd

      YES! paper ballots for all, hand counted then saved
      republikkkunts hate that because everyone will see how they’ve been cheating

    • m_lp_ql_m

      And even then, that’s hackable.

    • clay

      That means eliminating Michigan’s state law that says if votes seem to be missing, you’re not ALLOWED to audit it. That means that provisional ballots MUST be made available AND COUNTED for those kicked off the rolls, rather than moved/redistricted. That means getting rid of all state laws that can kick a person off the rolls in less than two years (federal election cycle).

    • iambu

      I’ve actually never NOT used a paper ballot. I’ve always been kind of confused about how/why different types of ballots are distributed. Who makes that call? I’m genuinely curious.

      • The_Wretched

        In the US, it’s a State law matter and the sec of states over see elections.

        • iambu

          Thanks!

    • ChrisInKansas

      I ALWAYS use a paper ballot and will never not.

    • 🐾vorpal🐾

      Paper ballots have been the status quo in Canada and we have never had a all these myriad problems that the US has.

      That being said, we don’t vote on many initiatives during each election cycle.

      • AmeriCanadian

        I vote absentee and my Canadian neighbo(u)r happened to be visiting when my ballot was sitting on the table. His reaction was “holy crap, that’s your ballot?”. He’d never seen anything so long. It unfolded into about five double-sided pages.

        • 🐾vorpal🐾

          Yup. I vote absentee in American elections (but not Canadian, because my district always votes overwhelmingly liberal, so my vote of liberal or NDP wouldn’t matter).

          I still remember the ballots at the booth and how short they were compared to the ones I get from Virginia, which require multiple read throughs and some research.

          • Generic Commenter

            I never thought I would ever say this, but there are *too many* elections in California, definitely with over-long (and over-complex) ballots. Yes, they are now being somewhat consolidated, thanks to a recent Initiative measure; however, imo *all* Initiatives and Referendums should be abolished with a State Constitutional amendment.

      • emjayay

        About 70% of voting in the US is by paper ballots which are scanned and the information ends up on a thumb drive which is sealed and taken to the central office by police – no internet. The numbers of voters and ballots and provisional ballots etc. have to add up before the poll workers go home. The ballots are retained so they can be checked if there is a recount or a discrepancy or problem arises. There is no need to actually hand count them normally, which would take large crews of people working for many hours. The scanning technology dates back many decades.

        But 30% of states have touch screen systems, which are good for people with various handicaps and probably easy for everyone, but often do not have any paper trail.

      • prixator

        I have never voted on a machine and I have voted in every election since I turned 18 and that’s A LOT of elections!

        The closest I’ve come to a machine is during municipal elections, where the ballot is paper but fed through a scanner after it’s filled in. Those are usually very large ballots because we’re voting for mayor, councillor and school trustee and there are usually many candidates for each position.

        I think the scanning is a good idea because with multiple positions and candidates to vote for, it’s easier to make an error and the scan alerts to that, so that you can try again.

        And, in addition to what you said, vorpal, in Canada, voting is easy and encouraged and there are numerous ways to cast ballots other than on election day.

    • Bad Tom

      I agree with everything you say, except hand counting. There is no reason to think hand counting is more accurate and less hackable than auditable machine counts.
      ——-
      The fundamental reason is clear: rerunning a suspicious hand count is expensive. Rerunning a suspicious machine count is relatively inexpensive. That means that as a matter of practice, you can test suspicious machine counts far more often, and it is therefore a better defense.

      • rednekokie

        We have paper ballots here in Oklahoma, which are then machine counted. Seems to work okay – and they can always be re-run, if necessary, or hand counted.
        Not susceptible to electronic meddling (I don’t think)

        • Ginger Snap

          That’s what we use in Manchester NH I assume the rest of the state does as well.

        • emjayay

          No, because the scanners are not connected to the internet and the totals go on a thumb drive which is sealed and carried by police to the central office.

        • Bad Tom

          Exactly what we have in Massachusetts. Seems like a good system.

  • Publius

    There’s your deep state, Mr. Trump.

  • Tatonka

    What do you suppose counts as an “exceptionally small” number of 21 states having their voter systems hacked. “Any” states being hacked sounds like an exceptionally large number to me.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      The swing states of Mi, FL, WI, and or PA
      3 to 4 states out of 21 is all they needed to hand the orange idiot our democracy

  • Lars Littlefield

    But Tillerson announced minutes later than there’s nothing the US can do about it. Nothing. Nada. Zip. We should all get used to it and quit complaining.

    • Chucktech

      That’s because the Rooskies are rimming the Republicans. Had it been the other way around you can bet your queer butt there would be plenty done, tout d’suite.

    • Cattleya1

      He’s taking his marching (and talking point) orders from Vlad – all of this maladministration are.

  • evan_or

    So, when are we going to get rid of this illegitimate and dirty so-called POTUS?

  • Rocco

    Ok, so what are you gonna do about it?

    • Tatonka

      Oh, nothing. The important thing here is that Russia suffer no consequences, and that we do nothing to prevent it from happening again.

    • The_Wretched

      low post count agony comment

      • Rocco

        Lol…I think you have me confused with someone else…no agony here no agony. Lol…

    • Mike in Houston

      Hold a military parade in DC!

    • Lars Littlefield

      Uh oh, Rocco appears to be a friend of Natasha Fatal, with his @disqus_WzlqUAwC6k tag,

      • Rocco

        Huh?

  • ceeenbee

    Shocking. Obviously, the shitgibbon is making sure that all russia sanctions are being implemented as of today!

    Oh, who the hell am I kidding. The shitgibbon called daddy puti today to thank him.

    • Lars Littlefield

      That’s what Nicole Wallace pointed out after Tillerson said there was little if nothing that could be done. She followed his sound bite with, “How about actually imposing the sanctions?” as a bit of shade.

  • G Thomas

    In the spirit of the propaganda technique of accusing your opponent of everything you are guilty of, they’ll probably claim that the election was altered…in Democrats favor. Wait for it.

  • bkmn
  • ClevelandJim

    Officially, how many and which ones, Jeanette??

    • m_lp_ql_m

      An exceptionally small number-compared to a googol.

      • Lars Littlefield

        Uh, fity, fity five? Huh yuck.

      • ClevelandJim

        THAT IS NOT AN ANSWER! lol

    • Bad Tom

      “THAT’S CLASSIFIED!!”

  • bkmn

    Now Mueller needs to find proof that Russia shared that info with the Trump campaign.

    • Bad Tom

      Or even offered to, and then the Trumps didn’t do squat, like tell some LEO somewhere. (They didn’t.)

  • Mike in Houston

    This will set Hair Furor off… “It’s the FBI texts!” “No Collusion” etc…

    • Halou

      But her emails.

  • guest

    And just as a reminder, last February:

    “the House Administration Committee voted on party lines to defund the Election Administration Commission, the leading federal agency responsible for helping states run smooth elections and preventing hacking.”

    https://www.wired.com/2017/02/want-secure-elections-maybe-dont-cut-security-funding/

    • Halou

      Got to get along well with Russia.

    • The_Wretched

      good reminder

    • Joe in PA

      Is that different than the Federal Election Commission? I saw this the other day and in these partisan times…this is important:

      By law, no more than three Commissioners can be members of the same political party, and at least four votes are required for any official Commission action.

      Right now: out of the six commissioners, 3 are republicans, 1 democrat, 1 independent and 1 vacant. Hmmm, I wonder how the votes go?

      • guest

        I think they’re different. The Fed Election Commission primarily deals with campaign disclosure laws. Good question though.

  • Let me guess: Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin…

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, DING!

    • clay

      and Kobach wishes it included Kansas.

      • He clearly wanted to take what he did and also couldn’t do in Kansas national: Basically disenfranchise all but reliable Republican voters.

  • rednekokie

    We are very rapidly turning into a banana republic.

    • canoebum

      Looking at who is running things, I’d rate us as a second banana republic.

      • rednekokie

        banana or second banana — it’s still a crappy place to be

    • Bad Tom

      Our priority right now is to keep the banana from rotting.

      • rednekokie

        If it hasn’t already started

        • Bad Tom

          I ain’t peeling that skin back!

  • coram nobis

    The RNC didn’t see anything fishy about hiring Cagey Bee Consultants to do their voter research?

    • Lars Littlefield

      Of course not, because they work cheap.

      • clay

        “We hardly knew them, just low-level volunteers.”

      • coram nobis

        And their immigration papers look genuine.

        • clay

          just like Melania’s

          • coram nobis

            They’re very good with documents.

      • Bad Tom

        They pay YOU to work for you.
        Watta deal!
        ——-
        Negative labor costs are a Republican wet dream.

    • William

      Now, Flowers By Irene is going after Trump.

  • Mike

    Since this is coming from a trumpster, expect her to reveal “evidence” that Russia hacked the election—to help Hillary win the popular vote. There’s no way in hell they would reveal this if it were something that diminishes Trump’s “historic victory,” as he likes to call it.

    • AJayne

      The only “news” in this article is that DHS finally acknowledges it. The intel community (17 separate agencies) already said this just before (and after) the 2016 election. Last month, Dutch intel agencies said they had been hacked into cameras and computers in the room where Russian hackers were accessing voter rolls and watched them do it. The regime kinda had to come out with something after all of that…

  • Lazycrockett

    Drip, drip, drip.

    • Lars Littlefield

      My condolences. I understand that Penicillin no longer clears that up.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    So, … seems you are confirming the election was hacked and the results are illegitimate.
    The real results might be closer to Hillary +30 MILLION!

  • mizzourah

    And THAT is why Trump won. Not bad polling. Not just a surprise. Simply Russian hacking.

  • boobert

    I say do over ! “an exceptionally small number of them were actually successfully penetrated.” I don’t believe that for a second !

  • greenmanTN

    There is little doubt in my mind that the last election was literally hacked, that in at least a few states the election results were changed in precincts that used electronic only voting machines. The difference between the vote and exit polls, and particularly the difference between areas that used paper ballots and those that didn’t is damning.

    The problem is that we have no system in place to deal with a manipulated vote, didn’t expect it, and have no laws in place to deal with such a thing. Even if we learned tomorrow that there was conclusive proof that the election was hacked, what would happen? There are no laws in place to deal with such an eventuality.

    Maybe I should get myself a tin-foil chapeau for believing that, but it is what I believe.

    • Generic Commenter

      U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 5:
      “Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members . . . .”

      This is the “system” that is in place “by law”

      • greenmanTN

        Well that’s convenient…

        Seriously, if there was one question I could ask Hillary Clinton it would be “Do you think the election results were hacked?”

        If they were she has to know it, but again there is no structure in place to deal with such a thing, so it’s quite possible that she decided to not talk about it because there is no remedy, she would be perceived as a sore loser, and it would throw the country into chaos. Plus, since there is no paper trail, you could never prove it.

        • Cattleya1

          Dolt 45 was a sore ‘winner’ – if were her, I’d sore as hell!

    • William

      And nobody is doing zip to make sure it never happens again.

    • Friday

      That and when Republicans accuse, they’re generally at least pre-emptively projecting. What were they saying before and after election?

    • Mark

      A stylish tin-foil fedora can be quite fetching and in fact, necessary.

  • Bryan

    “[Jeh] Johnson said that any state officials who don’t believe the federal government should be providing help are being ‘naïve’ and ‘irresponsible to the people that [they’re] supposed to serve.'”

  • Tomcat

    The Russians are still doing it now and Trump keeps saying the new sanctions imposed by congress by more than 2/3rds vote are NOT needed against Russia.
    We need to force Congress to force trump to impose these sanctions into law.

  • gaycuckhubby
    • BobSF_94117

      What evidence would there be that anything was changed?

  • ChrisInKansas

    A real President would be extremely concerned about this and would be their top priority. But a parade is more important I guess.

  • Blake J Butler

    Pelosi deserves an apology from Guttierez. he wanted a republican “deal” on DACA, to bend over for funding for the wall.

    https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/961369344277172226

    • Generic Commenter

      “House” and “Senate” are different chambers.

  • Bad Tom

    “We saw a targeting of 21 states and an exceptionally small number of them were actually successfully penetrated.”

    How many is an “exceptionally small number” in politico speak?

    At least one. But they would say “Just one”, wouldn’t they? So at least two. But they would say “Only two,” wouldn’t they? You know they would.

    So at least three. Yeah at least THREE states got fucked by Russian hackers.

    • BobSF_94117

      One wonders what they’re trying to protect by not saying how many. I mean, it’s not like the Russians don’t know how many.

      • Friday

        To be fair, I wouldn’t want to give the bad guys any clues, they add up in traffic analysis. I’d want to say whatever keeps em guessing the most. If they can’t know exactly *where* they got caught, they’ll have a harder time knowing *how.*

        • BobSF_94117

          Good point. I suppose it’s possible the Russians got into more systems than we detected. Nice to know our side thinks it’s possible…

          sigh

  • netxtown

    And we are to believe the ruskies just took a look around, had a vodka, then went home empty handed? DHS is too chickenshit to confirm the election results were hacked – and possibly 21 states were thrown to donnie.

  • Pip

    Isn’t this information already a matter of public record?

  • DesertSun59

    Paper only. We do not need to know outcomes the nanosecond the polls close.

    • Talisman

      I think we should amend the Constitution to give the federal government oversight of elections and to set standards, including language that explicitly requires an audit trail, across all states.

      IMO, all machines should print out 2 receipts. One for the voter to review and deposit in a sealed ballot box, and a second for the voter to keep. If the voter contests the receipt, there should be a way to cancel it for a re-vote.

      There should also be a standard system for candidates to contest the results, requirements for the number of polling places and workers at each place, as well as standards for early voting.

      • justme

        The federal election committee is suppose to be able tp do that.. But it isn’t independent of the parties.. and it’s tied up by partisan hacks..

  • jayjonson

    That small number of states probably includes Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. The Russians literally stole the election for Trump.

    • tbj5

      Voter roll info probably went straight to the bot servers. Every tossup state swing voter was precisely targeted with disinformation to get them to not vote for Hillary. And it worked.

    • justme

      and they only had to flip less than 2% of the votes in each state..

  • Henry Auvil

    IT’S ALL A HOAX! SVETLANA TRUMPOLOVOV is Totally registered to vote in West Virginia. FAKE NEWS!!

    • drbrentzenobia

      Evening vare, very nice. Nextevich…

  • Talisman

    And it seems impossible that they hacked the actual voting machines?

    With no paper trail, we’ll never really know.

    • -M-

      And even assuming they didn’t, you don’t have to meddle with the votes to affect the outcome of an election. It’s enough if you can affect who gets to vote by creating delays in certain neighborhoods or removing certain people from the rolls.

    • Friday

      The actual voting machines were by and large made by Dick CHeney’s corporation and legislated in by his same cronies. for that do we even *need* Russians? The hacking’s mostly telling the same Republicans who to kick off the registration rolls, so far as we’ve seen.

  • GanymedeRenard

    Surprise, surprise!… Not.

  • justme

    .. and they are still at it hacking even as we speak..

  • Tempus Fuggit

    Da, but vheere are moose and squirrel?

  • JWC

    Take that GOP

  • TJ Pierce

    We must have paper ballots. Only way to make the system accountable.

  • Hank
  • Lizard

    PAPER BALLOTS, DUMBASSES.

  • Friday’s_cat

    Paper ballots, get rid of th EC.

  • I suspect that the cheating was enough to rig the election in favor of Trump.

    • -M-

      Between hacking the voters with fake news, creating delays and disruptions in Democratic areas to (further) suppress turnout, and either Russians or Republicans quite possibly flipping a few votes in swing states, easily enough to account for the margin to victory.

    • leastyebejudged

      Still clinging to the delusion that this was the exception, when it was an inevitability ?

      Interesting !

  • Galvestonian

    I saw that the night of the elections – every State went RED ! I felt that something was terribly wrong then.

  • Max_1

    But remember… It’s not treason when You aide and support the adversarial government that infiltrated your election, changed your voter rolls, and propagandized your people.

    Its only treason if you don’t stand and applaud your president.

  • -M-
    • The_Wretched

      So far as there’s a ‘Deep State’ out there, it’s putting its thumb on the scale for white right wingers.

  • DaveMiller135

    Blast off and nuke them from space. It’s the only way to be sure.

  • Charles Nelson

    The Trump Administration has allowed Russia’s top spy masters to visit the US. One of them is specifically targeted by Congressional sanctions as not to be allowed in the US!. But of course all of Putin’s minions are to have full travel visas according to Our Glorious Leader.

  • Gregory In Seattle

    And if the Trump administration had actually, you know, led the country, SOMETHING WOULD ALREADY HAVE BEEN DONE TO PREVENT THIS.

    Problem is, Trump and his cabal WANT the Russians to hack the elections: they know damned well that remaining Putin’s meat-puppets is the only way they will be able to hold on to power.