POLL: 48% Found SOTU To Be “Very Positive”

CNN reports:

Almost half of Americans who watched President Donald Trump’s first State of the Union address — 48% — say they had a “very positive” impression of the speech, down from 57% of speech-watchers after his first address to match Barack Obama’s rating after his first State of the Union address, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS. It’s the lowest net positive rating for a State of the Union address since at least 1998, when CNN first asked the question. There is no equivalent poll for addresses before 1998.

Some important caveats: This survey reflects the views of only those who watched the speech, not of all Americans. The poll was conducted among a group of Americans who said in prior interviews that they planned to watch the speech and were willing to be contacted after its conclusion. People who choose to watch a political speech tend to be more supportive of the speaker than the general population; this sample was about 7 points more Republican than the entire American population.

  • Leo

    The last line of this excerpt Joe posted is all you need to know.

    Everyone can move on.

    • And this:

      “This survey reflects the views of only those who watched the speech, not of all Americans.”

      Granted, it’s not as though that will stop Trump and the GOP from playing this up.

    • CanuckDon

      For sure! I find it hard to believe that there were that many people who could stomach listening to him for an hour….actually pretty frightening. I’m sorry for those 29% that voted negative who sat there and endured it.

      • Butch

        There’s an informal poll over at Daily Kos that is currently showing more than 90 percent “did not watch.” I think that plus 7 GOP viewers is way off; the people who bothered to watch this speech were already predisposed to give it a positive rating.

  • Steve Smith

    The speech, (from what I can gather as I’d sooner have my fingernails pulled out than watch Trump) wasn’t too awful. The fact that hardly a word of it was true, though, is a real drawback.

    • CanuckDon

      Did they sub his voice for someone else’s?

    • Rambie

      From the clips, it was his teleprompter reading monotone. They did a good job getting his uppers and downers mixed right, no slurring in the clips I’ve heard at least.

    • I did not watch, and made sure my cable box was tuned to The Food Network (instead of my default to Optimum’s local “News 12” since they were going to be carrying the speech on that channel and I did not want it to be counted.

      On the other hand, I did read through the transcript (see: https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/30/politics/2018-state-of-the-union-transcript/index.html )
      since my primary concern was to make sure I did not help his ratings.

      • Steve Smith

        I don’t help anybody’s ratings. I got rid of the television nearly 10 years ago. I live an entirely TV-free life, and thoroughly enjoy it!

        • Good for you! While I may not follow in those particular footsteps, I can admire those who do. Kudos.

  • Gustav2

    Name another member of a presidents family who ever said anything like this.


  • Leo
    • olandp

      Ooooh, the plus side of mediocre… something to really strive for.

      • Todd20036

        That’s me on a good day;…

      • For El Jefe, that is all he needs – bring the “movable middle” into a sense of complacency, while he and his henchmen work to stoke the fires of a kind of “lip service” dominionist fundamentalism and xenophobic racist fascism so ardently desired by his white nationalist base (which is about a third of the populace, scary enough in and of itself)

  • S1AMER

    Fact: Typically, viewership of SOTUs is higher (often much higher) among the president’s own party. Ergo, that 48% probably reflected more Republicans than Democrats.

    That said, and assuming more Democrats than Republicans watched Obama’s first SOTU, Trump still did relatively poorly compared to Obama. I’d say that’s significant.

    • Todd20036

      Read the last line in article above. The survey included only those who watched the speech, and in this case, that represented 7% more republicans than in the general population.
      In other words, Trump got 48% of a crowd that was heavily republican.

  • Rex

    Trump will say, or do, or tweet something by the end of the day that will negate anything positive he did actually say.

    • jeffg166

      He will read the criticism from someone and attack. He can’t help it.

  • whollyfool

    Bradley Whitford didn’t like it much…


    • jeffg166


  • Joe in PA

    FFS…Doesn’t matter what he SAYS…it matters what he does. Bloviating POS.

    • GayOldLady

      And we already know what he does, so expect nothing from Trump.

      • Michael White

        and the Grand Old Pervert party

      • Joe in PA

        Well yeah, nothing GOOD, I’m worried about all the other stuff. 😱

    • I had to look up the “FFS” acronym (again! I did it last week when a friend evoked it on facebook, but I still had to be reminded of the meaning).

      The first thing that comes to mind when I see the acronym “FFS” is “Facial Feminization Surgery” (I haven’t needed it but I have friends who have felt the need) – but I know that usage didn’t fit the context. Then I remembered my friend using it just last week and re-checked via google.

      • Joe in PA

        Hi Joann, I haven’t seen you posting much lately, good to see you. Yeah I’m usually the one having to look up the acronyms. 🙂

        • The powers-that-be have been keeping me very busy at work, which is a good thing.

      • prixator

        I’m glad to know that I am not the only one who does that (keep looking up the same words or acronyms because I forgot the meaning again).

        Today, I had to look up “nihilism” again. And, I should remember it because I am a bit of a nihilist.

  • “Almost half of the dozen or so who actually watched the dotard’s SOTU…”

    There. FIFY.

  • Long Tom

    The speech was positively a giant load of bullshit.

  • Leo
  • netxtown

    I hear that 40 of the 48 ‘positive’ points were all about the fucking speech being over.

  • Boreal

    ‘This survey reflects the views of only those who watched the speech, not of all Americans.’

    None of my friends or myself watched this shitgibbon.

  • Michael White

    Still less than 50% That is not winning in my book

    • JCF

      Not for SOTUs, no.

  • Keith D Plane

    48% of people who WATCHED. How many people actually did watch this idiot, what kind of ratings. I didn’t watch, won’t give this db any of my time. I suspect a LOT of people DID NOT WATCH!

  • ChrisInKansas

    Well, half of America can go fuck themselves.

  • Bluto
  • Sam_Handwich
  • gaycuckhubby

    I think a lot of people are conflating these numbers with approval ratings. Someone can hate Trump and say that this speech was somewhat positive.

    • Leo

      HA! I can’t. Hard to do when you can’t believe a word of it.

  • Bluto
  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Really America? Really??

  • justme
  • CharlestonDave

    Diagram of this highly positive speech:

    1. Speak an inarguable, meaningless platitude.
    2. Tell a heartwarming anecdote about an American hero, preferably in attendance.
    3. Smilingly relate a well-polished lie.
    4. Briefly mention an outrageous policy proposal with no details.

    Rinse and repeat, to thunderous Republican applause, for 90 minutes.

  • joe ho

    trite passages alternating with outright vileness.

    carefully crafted deception (4% of what he said was true.)

    compared to western europeans, americans are incredibly stupid and badly educated. sad but true. why we are losing our democracy.

  • Charles Nelson

    What the polls didn’t mention was the fact that 80% of watchers said they were Republicans and only 20% Democrats. What is most surprising is that only 48% of all watchers said that the speech was very positive.

  • Renfield

    Why did Democrats even show up at this farce?

    • WKT20

      Proximity to power and privilege is intoxicating. Saw a picture of Cory Booker smiling ear to ear and video of Tammy Duckworth clapping in response to the orange buffoon’s calls to increase nuclear arsenal. They just cannot fucking help themselves but bow down at his feet. I will NEVER vote for a republican, but damn if the dems don’t make it hard sometimes to be enthusiastic.

  • Mike

    Since when is positivity the mark of a good SOTU speech? That’s a media-centric focus on the shallow and superficial.

  • marshlc

    This, folks, is the magic of lowered expectations. Trump doesn’t actively shit his pants while at the podium, and everyone says how well he did.

  • rednekokie

    Didn’t bother with it — as I do not enjoy listening to lie after lie. This one was a total waste of time, for those who wasted their time with it.

  • Steven Miller wrote the speech that El Jefe delivered in such a way as to attempt to sway the movable middle into complacency, while still throwing “meat” to the base. Miller made it clear in Trump’s speech that immigration law negotiations are going to be hardball – it may well be that nothing will get done by Congress. the Dreamers are a bargaining chip – What Trump wants to see is more EB-5 (green cards for investor immigrants coming with money) and fewer refugees.

    He made a big thing about MS-13 but failed to note the actual history of American responsibility for it being founded in LA before being exported to Latin America and then coming back here again. Trump, in MIller’s words, failed to note that more Americans were killed last year by white nationalist terrorists (20 out of 34) than by MS-13, ISIL, Al Qaeda and EVERYONE ELSE combined – See http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/white-supremacist-murders-us-figures-double-2017-racist-hate-crime-las-vegas-shooting-extremist-a8165416.html

    The scariest thing was when Miller’s speechwriting dog-whistle had Trump invoke the spectre of “ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuehrer” and “Kinder, Küche, Kirche” with this imagery:

    ” . . . what kind of Nation we are going to be. All of us, together, as one team, one people, and one American family.
    We all share the same home, the same heart, the same destiny, and the same great American flag.
    Together, we are rediscovering the American way.
    In America, we know that faith and family,
    not government and bureaucracy, are the center of the American life. Our motto is “in God we trust.”

    I’ll leave with a spot-on analysis from Variety Magazine: http://variety.com/2018/politics/news/trump-first-state-of-the-union-divisive-dictator-1202682530/

    • One other thought – on the one hand, he wants America to have the biggest and best nukes.

      On the other, he used the most scathing language to condemn North Korea for doing what is essentially the same thing. There were several paragraphs of speech in between the two points, though.

  • The_Wretched

    Merely the fact that people watched it means they are morely likely to support the pres. The disgusted people didn’t watch or turned it off pretty fast.

  • Galvestonian

    WHAT ? No points for reaction that state total Bullshit composed of meaningless patriotic statements strung together to mollify the public with carefully crafted points that were sugar coated to grab the public’s interest but don’t mean a damn thing. This wasn’t Trump — it was a bunch of back room hacks cutting and pasting false promises and egotistical hyperinflated statements that bragged of Trump’s smoke & mirror ‘deeds’. What crap !

  • Cipher

    Ask if people believed what came out of his mouth.

  • JWC

    Donny is a businessman and a salesman he knows how to work it as long as he stays on script

  • canoebum

    48%. Subtract the 7% over count for Republicans and the 4.2% margin of error and we’re back in the mid-30s. 36.8%. Fuck CNN. Not even worthy of being called ass-kissers.

  • dempseyzdad

    This “poll” means absolutely nothing. 48% of “those who watched it”…the only people who watched it were pro-trump. Not a big surprise.

  • Richard

    I didn’t waste my time watching the white racist lie-a-thon. It’s Fascism raising.

  • argeejay

    Now….how many ‘Muricans actually watched Hair Furor’s campaign speech?