Breitbart: Amnesty Plan Will Bring Self-Impeachment

This week Breitbart began labeling Trump as “Amnesty Don” over his administration’s latest immigration proposals.

This afternoon they go further:

The open-ended amnesty offer by Donald Trump’s top deputies to the Democrats combines political incompetence, malpractice, greed, betrayal, and self-mutilation, say Trump’s friends and supporters. “It electrifies the Democratic base and dispirits your own Republican base, and that is the recipe for a wipeout” in November, said Dan Horowitz, editor at Conservative Review. “You could call it the Self-Impeachment Act of 2018,” he added.

The malpractice is shown by the terms of the proposal, which contradicts Trump’s claim to be a master negotiator, by offering many concessions without getting anything in return, and by front-loading the amnesty while deferring potential benefits for Americans until after the November election and even the 2028 election.

The proposal says it offers amnesty to an estimated 1.8 million younger illegals — but it suggests no rules to limit the likely fraud, undercounting and judicial appeals that could ensure a supercharged repeat of the 1986 amnesty, when the legislature’s promise of 400,000 green cards to agriculture workers quickly became the bureaucracy’s award of 1 million green cards.

Breitbart’s post is illustrated with a photo of John Kelly.

  • Todd20036

    Breitbart is a Nazi site. Any step away from the Nazi ideals is seen as liberal

    If trump ever did suggest re-education camps, you can bet breitbart would be for it

    • (((GC)))

      And since when is “liberal” — and the idea of freedom — supposed to be something bad?

      Even Tea Partiers want their idea of “libety”….

      • pch1013

        “Liberal” has been a dirty word ever since the Republicans decided to make it one, back in the 1980s.

        • Phil2u

          One of my closest relatives uses “liberal” as I would use “asshole” or something. When aimed at me, I correct him, suggesting “progressive.”

          • Lizard

            I just own it. Fuck them.

          • Jay George

            Right? Plaster that great big scarlet L on my chest. I wear it proud.

          • MBear

            Use the correct pronunciation of ‘conservative ‘ back at them: rɪˈtɑrd or naht-see

          • The_Wretched

            Make them work a little, spell out conservative as n o u g h t s e a.

          • MBear

            They’d probably think “nougat ” and be looking for the candy box

          • SelectFromWhere

            “Progressive” has certainly taken over as the word meaning exactly what “liberal” used to, but it’s ironic since “liberal” has the same root as “liberty”, which the Right tries to claim the market on as its own.

        • Steverino

          When I first heard this back in the day, my reaction was WTF? To me, it’s like sneering to somebody: “You… gentleman!” “You… scholar!” As if it is supposed to be an insult, or something. It has always struck me as lame.

          In retrospect, I suppose this was revenge by right-wingers for the word “fascist” becoming a dirty word when we went to war against it in Europe in WWII. Prior to then, fascist was just fine as a term owned by right-wingers who admired Hitler and Mussolini.

          Anyway, this silly bit of demagoguery has certainly been a goldmine over the past 35 years for the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, and legions of their imitators and wannabes in the Wing-nut Welfare World of right-wing media.

      • (((GC)))

        Apropos: “Why being liberal really is better than being conservative” — explaining MacArthur genius Rebecca Goldstein’s argument appealing to the foundations of ethics.
        https://www.alternet.org/story/146930/why_being_liberal_really_is_better_than_being_conservative/

  • Lazycrockett

    It takes a special kind of racist asshole to want to deport 100,000’s of people who where brought here by their parents when they were less than 4 years old. Disgusting.

  • Joe in PA

    self-mutilation…???

    For once I can say “I don’t want any of what you’re smoking.”

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Nazi Fascist site that promotes Final Solution style politics says what now?

    On a completely O/T tangent, just because yes, I’m shamelessly self-promoting because I’m feeling blah….shut up….love me dammit LOL

    https://twitter.com/sirlthr69/status/956961909785485313

    • Barry William Teske

      Who is the hotty with all the hair? ; ),

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Yup, I used to have the most beautiful, thick head of hair…sigh….BTW, you should see my chest LOL

    • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

      Just followed u. I’m spider. Just started twitter

    • RaygunsGoZap
      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Not quite LOL I look hideous in red 🙂

        • RaygunsGoZap
          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            Well, that might be difficult as I…um…uh…I’m a bit more than average down there. Yes, I realize it makes no sense in the gay world to be embarrassed about being somewhat endowed, but it’s a touchy subject for me. Contrary to popular belief, being a bit large isn’t always a good thing. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not 12″ or something, but…well…you can figure it out.

          • GanymedeRenard

            I’m sure Esteban is more than happy with that. 😉

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            He doesn’t complain, but seriously, it can be troublesome. Wearing a suit is tricky because no matter which side I dress on, it’s kind of, you know, there. Again, people might think it’s great but honestly there are days….

          • GanymedeRenard

            My my, you must be THICK where it counts. Excuse me while I take a cold shower. XD

      • DreadPikathulhu

        Captain Canuck or Guardian from Alpha Flight?

        • RaygunsGoZap

          Guardian! ALWAYS…

      • Paula

        That is disturbing.

    • alc2018

      give that man a tight harness and the keys to my apartment -NOW!

    • Phil2u

      .. et c’est bien toi?

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Oui, j’avais 24 ans quand cela a été pris. La photo ci-dessous était quand j’avais 26 ans

    • clay

      When I look at this pic, I think “I could slip you an extra dessert for a $20,” said the cater-waiter.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Funny you should say that….

      • Anastasia Beaverhousen

        Oh, honey, you want him to slip you more than dessert for $20.

    • Steverino

      Yum!

    • ted-

      That’s one hottie if I’ve ever seen one.

    • ArchiLaw

      You know we love you just as you are. The younger you is pretty sweet, too!

  • Barry William Teske

    Rinse and Repeat:

    Apparently there are things more important than money to Breitbart…

  • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

    Imma say it again. The GOP has no intention of a deal. They just want to blame the Dems for kicking out the Dreamers. It’s called a win-win in their minds. It’s soft ethnic cleansing. The cruelty gives their base hard ons

    • pch1013

      I’m not sure that the party that has spent the last 25 years shrieking about the Democrats wanting “open borders” is capable of that level of jiu-jitsu.

      • The_Wretched

        It’s very easy to do on the republican end and similar to what they did to Obama for 8 years. 1. say you want a deal 2. pretend you’ll go with a certain deal 3. keep reneging on your end or moving the goal posts.

        For nearly the entire Obama admin I was annoyed about the Dems acting like the Reps were a fair minded negotiations partner. They weren’t. It was Lucy and the football every time.

        No new skills needed.

        • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

          EXACTLY. Thank u

      • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

        Not sure what you mean. That’s exactly what’s happening with the WH’s outrageous demands. 50% cut in LEGAL immigration (remember supposedly it”s the illegality that was the problem). It’s a non starter. That’s the blame Dems part. The rest is ICE. They literally don’t have to do anything to get this result. How is that jui-jitsu?

        The GOP are masters of the politics of cruelty.

        I’m a lawyer. I work with immigration lawyers n LA on pro bono matters. This is what’s expected.

        • pch1013

          OK, I guess I misunderstood your earlier comment – I thought you were speculating that the GOP (which, as you know, hates all brown immigrants) would blame *Democrats* for the Dreamers being kicked out.

          • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

            That’s exactly what I mean. Because the Democrats care more about “chain migration”and “open borders” than “border security”, “crime and terrororism” than these “poor kids”. It’s win win for them because their base loves the cruelty and the avoid the political hit.

  • teeveedub

    Don’t worry, Breitbatians. 45* will be gone, and it won’t be because of amnesty. It’ll be because of obstruction of justice, lying to the FBI, or international criminal conspiracy (or any combination thereof).

    • Gil

      money laundering

      • Bad Tom

        That too.

  • bkmn

    The Teavangelicals won’t let go of power that easily.

  • Tawreos

    That’s funny since the people they think this caves to are calling it a racist ransom note.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-escalante-dreamer-deal_us_5a6b366de4b0ddb658c5b86c?ncid=edlinkushpmg00000313

  • Lazycrockett

    Until I see their white snowflake children out in the fields picking strawberrys and tomatoes 8 hours a day these racist can kindly STFU.

    • MBear

      8 hours before their first break, maybe

  • safari

    A preview of how 2018’s blue wave will be spun.

  • Phil Touchette

    Do it, Donald. Grant the amnesty!

  • Nazis gotta Nazi.

    • kirtanloorii

      I bet they did Nazi that coming!

  • clay

    “The open-ended amnesty offer by Donald Trump’s top deputies . . . Trump’s friends and supporters.”

    Interesting contrast between the deputies and the (let’s be honest, Donny’s never met them) supporters. Not only is it a hit on Kelly, but it’s also a way to avoid hitting Donny, who’s incompetent, greedy, disloyal inconsistency is the(ir) problem if Donny wants to be re-elected. “Self-impeachment” suggests they will remove him between elections– possibly warranting a visit from the FBI and Secret Service.

  • The_Wretched

    Someone is brought to the US as a 2 year old. They are culturally American, contribute to our economy and taxes and have lower than average crime rates. It’s entirely irrational, cruel and immoral to send them to a country where they might not even speak the language and would be instantly homeless with limited opportunities.

    Call this what it is, a kind of ethnic cleansing.

    • DreadPikathulhu

      Try explaining that to someone without a conscience.

      • The_Wretched

        I have. It doesn’t work. They need to care a little about either humans, fairness, or even the abstracts of econ or tax burdens. None of it matters to them in the end.

        • DreadPikathulhu

          I think all that matters to them, much like their Bible, is that they’ve got a simple answer that they can apply in any situation. No grey areas, no need to think about the needs of other people or to weigh the various factors, just say “NO!” and walk away.

        • Cuberly Deux

          Whenever Ive tried I get lambasted with, oh so why do we even have borders, or, so you’re for breaking the law.

          • The_Wretched

            In all honesty, I have trouble caring about lawbreakers who are a huge net plus. It’s not like we’re tightly constrained on the number of people we can take into our country or that the Dreamers are insurrectionists.

          • Octoberfurst

            Yeah I get that too. “But they’re here ILLEGALLY!” they say. “Why even have borders?” Empathy and compassion mean nothing to them! They’re hard-core law & order assholes.
            Call me crazy but I have a hunch if the DACA kids were from Britain they wouldn’t be so adamant about “the law”.

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        • Kate

          Some of us care about both fairness and mercy.

          There is over a ten year wait to immigrate legally to the United States. If the US is giving anyone permanent residency, those slots should go to the people who are earning it, not the adults with parents who tried to steal it.

          If there’s room for 13 million immigrants to the US, let them be the ones who are waiting in line. Let it go to the families waiting for *their* opportunity to have a shot at the American dream – the ones that will come with a green card, who have shown a commitment to following the law, who won’t undermine labour protections and minimum wage rules.

    • clay

      and they don’t limit it to the Dreamers– they want to, and ICE is, applying this to “anchor babies” under the age of 18, as well. And unlike previous administrations, those deported US citizens are not getting US councilor support.

      • canoebum

        They’re trying to undo Family Reunification as the bedrock principle of US immigration policy. Mark my words, further down this slippery slope will be severe limitations on bi-national same-sex couples. They’ll try to redefine our marriages as “non-family” in order to make foreign spouses ineligible for green cards. We can’t let that happen.

        • clay

          They’ll probably do it by steps– only recognized if also recognized in the nations of origin of BOTH spouses, then add only if the wedding was in the US, and then, if they get away with that much . . .

          • canoebum

            What a nightmare!

          • Lars Littlefield

            Which is why Luis and I are making plans to fly to Mexico DF and get married in the Capital. We just discovered we can marry in DF IF we are legally married in the US. If we weren’t already married, I wouldn’t be eligible. In the end it may not make any difference, but we might as well try to cover all bases. Besides, we both need a break from ‘Mericuh.*

            *And it will make his mother happy.

          • Kate

            No, that’s not going to happen. The feds don’t get to dictate marriage.

        • Kate

          “They’re trying to undo Family Reunification as the bedrock principle of US immigration policy.”

          Yes, and trying to go more like Canada does. Merit instead of chain migration. Canada lets me sponsor one relative, unless I have an existing relative, at which point I cannot.

          https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/family-sponsorship/other-relatives/eligibility.html

          There is no chain migration in Canada, and somehow Canada does fine.

          “Mark my words, further down this slippery slope will be severe limitations on bi-national same-sex couples. ”

          They aren’t going to go after same-sex couples, bi-national or not. Immigration is a federal matter, states control same-sex marriage, so the odds of that genie going back in the bottle are the same as the odds of the US going after mixed-race marriages, which is to say absolutely none.

          If they want to make foreign spouses ineligible for green cards, they will just do that.

          • canoebum

            First, to assert “they aren’t going after same-sex couples, bi-national or not” reveals your ignorance on this issue. Don’t try to convince us we’re not a target. We know better. Second, if a marriage between a US citizen and a foreign national takes place outside the US, it is the Federal government that must recognize that marriage. Lastly, it is clear you’re an anti-immigrant troll, so please drop dead.

      • Kate

        They aren’t deporting US Citizens. CBP actually takes this very serious.

        Parents are permitted to take their children with them, and the children can be left with guardians or other individuals in the country.

        The US does not currently deport US citizens.

        • clay

          “the children can be left with guardians” if there are guardians to leave them with. The US does deport US citizens, but until this year, they at least had a letter from the State Department saying they’d be welcome back once they’re eighteen, and can financially support themselves.

          • Kate

            They can’t forbid US citizens of any age from entering the country, nor can they deport them under any circumstances.

            They can offer the parents a plane ticket with their child, but once US Citizenship is established, deportation is not permitted. Period.

            Mistakes happen, like the 4 year old accidentally deported under Obama.

            https://news.vice.com/article/the-us-keeps-mistakenly-deporting-its-own-citizens

            “Officials apprehended the girl when she arrived in Virginia’s Dulles International Airport after visiting relatives in Guatemala, and they detained her for 20 hours, refusing to release her to her parents in the US. They then sent her back to Guatemala, where she remained until her father hired a lawyer for her return three weeks later. Last summer, the government agreed to pay $32,500 to settle a lawsuit for her wrongful deportation and the stress it caused.

            I know about CBPs and Citizens because I nearly caused a fuckup of massive proportions. As an immigrant to Canada, I had to leave and re-enter to get my work permit. When I attempted to “flagpole”, a common practice by Canadians where you are administratively denied entry into the US and returned to Canada, the agent was going to let me. When his supervisor found out, he was reamed on the spot – they are never, ever, under any circumstances, ever, to deport or deny entry to a US Citizen, and if it can be shown that they did so, the US will generally have to pay for it.

            Proving one’s a Citizen can certainly be hard, but they can’t deport Citizens, even if they are children. What they do, instead, is give the parents a plane ticket and encourage them to bring the child with them. The child is entitled to a Passport, and can be flown or driven to the US, and picked up by relatives or some other guardian.

          • clay

            “What they do, instead, is give the parents a plane ticket and encourage them to bring the child with them.” Which is deporting the child.

            “The child is entitled to a Passport, and can be flown or driven to the US, and picked up by relatives or some other guardian.” After the child has left and IF there is a guardian.

    • Publius

      I’ve mentioned before here that I grew up in Santa Ana, which is in Orange County (CA), in a heavily Latino neighborhood (I myself am in part Mexican by ancestry). Literally no less than every other one of my neighbors and classmates were illegal immigrants. Just under half of my childhood friends were. I grew up with these people, played at their houses, watched their parents holding down two or three jobs, watched the ways they contributed to our community.

      The young ones were and are just as American as I and the rest of us are. They work hard and love this country with all its faults. To write them off, to deport them indiscriminately, and to make them the butt of racist immigration policies is pathetic and will make our country suffer.

      • The_Wretched

        I come from a fairly privileged place and didn’t really run into the problem until a college flatmate explained his situation to me. I had no clue that he was different than anyone else and had this cloud of potential deportation over his head. He paid for school by gray market transport of US consumer electronics to distributors in Mexico until getting back into the US became difficult.

      • Kate

        “and to make them the butt of racist immigration policies”

        Like Canada? Israel? Japan? China?

        Most countries deport people not there legally. Otherwise, the country has a hard time enforcing worker protection laws, and controlling immigration so as to not suppress wages even further.

        When Statistics Canada looked at immigration, they found a 10% shift in the labour pool (workers) results in a 4% shift in wages the other direction. More workers, lower wages. Fewer workers, higher wages. Supply and demand.

        In the US, the shift tends to be on the lower end. It makes income inequality worse, as it’s the workers who suffer. In Canada, immigrants tend to be legal and higher skilled, so it’s the higher wages that suffer (which reduces income inequality).

        If you want a racist immigration policy, the US has done it. It was called the Mexican Repatriation, and they went around and deported everyone who looked brown, legal or not. They managed to deport two million people, including many US Citizens, back in the 1930s – it would be a lot easier now.

        Deporting people in the country illegally isn’t racist, because illegal is not a race. Deporting everyone who’s brown to protect jobs for people who aren’t – that’s racist.

        So, here’s the real question – do they enforce the borders for white people? Do they deport white people? The answer is yes, and it’s a lot less racist than it was. It used to be they looked at your skin colour, profiled you, and only stopped you if you looked Mexican. Now, everyone gets scanned, and the computer flags people without status. That’s not racist.

        • Publius

          Tl;dr;don’t care

          Go back to Breitbart.

          • Kate

            tl:dr; it’s easier to call something racist than to actually think, or listen.

          • Publius

            Thanks for sharing. Kbye.

      • jpermo

        I lived in Santa Ana in the 1980s, working low wage jobs at big companies like Marriott and Service America. Almost all my co workers were Mexicans with no
        Papers working for minimum wage (less than I for same work). These big companies and their shareholders were FINE with the arrangement then. These workers stayed in the US had families, bought into the dream. This was 1986 and Reagan amnesty was supposed to increase employer’s penalties for this, but that part of the bill got stripped out so that companies like Marriott could keep their shareholders happy. As these nativist simpleminds carry on about law and order, they conveniently forget about how much prosperity and tax base the workers have brought to the US while being caught up in this great American hypocrisy.

    • Steverino

      And political cleansing, as upon achievement of citizenship most of them are likely Democratic voters.

    • Kate

      When parents commit crimes, the children often suffer. It’s unfortunate, and why parents should take care to follow the law.

      If you parent robs a bank, and uses it to buy a home, the home is still subject to forfeiture. If a parent sneaks their family into Disneyland and gets caught, the kids don’t get to stay.

      I’m an immigrant. I immigrated with my spouse due to DOMA. I had a work permit – the work permit had a date I had to leave. If I didn’t, Canada would deport me. If I couldn’t get a permit and came illegally, Canada would deport me.

      I’m Mexican, and I come from a long line of immigrants. Deporting me to the land of my birth would leave me in a country where I don’t understand the culture, and I literally do not understand the main language. That doesn’t give me a free pass to enjoy the benefit of lawlessness.

      As an immigrant, I expect no more or less than any other immigrant. Follow the law. It took me a decade to qualify to immigrate – Canada (unlike the US) has a merit based system.

      This is my PR card – I may be the only US national ever born in Japan to immigrate to Canada, but this card is only given to immigrants – immigrants who follow the law.

      The humane way to handle this is to go to a merit-based system and offer points to individuals who have experience in the United States. Handle it like Canada, where applications for status have to be done outside the country if you don’t have lawful status in the US. Get them background checked, and let them earn the right to come to the US legally.

      For children, give them a study permit, give them a few years to get the required schooling – if they are native english speakers, with work experience in the US, they should be a step ahead on the merit-based immigration stream.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/699428413751bc0407965f06c1671276d9ed92dbb6acab576566c3a79df3daac.jpg

  • ClevelandJim

    What a buncha fuckin drama queens.

  • ColdCountry

    “The open-ended amnesty offer by Donald Trump’s top deputies to the
    Democrats combines political incompetence, malpractice, greed, betrayal,
    and self-mutilation, say Trump’s friends and supporters.”

    With friends like that….

    • Reality.Bites

      They’re no more his friends than I’m a friend to my Pipe wrench.

      It’s a tool I use to accomplish my goals.

  • Halou

    Steve Bannon’s revenge?

  • ColdCountry
    • TuuxKabin

      Thanks for the info. We got to sit in on a half hour narrative by four Rose the Riveters in the Richmond Shipyards this summer to hear them tell of their move to the SF Bay Area ship yards, where my mom was also a riveter. It’s a worth while visit while in the bay area, with good bay views. And the Ford Assembly Plant is along side with a decent restaurant.

      https://www.nps.gov/rori/index.htm

      • ColdCountry

        Looks interesting! You didn’t by any chance see this lady?
        https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/07/oldest-national-park-ranger-attacked-work-betty-reid-soskin-history/
        I’d love to listen to her, but I have no idea when or if I’ll be in CA again, and her tours are booked months in advance.

        • TuuxKabin

          No. She was mentioned tho. That story of her being robbed and assaulted is familiar. I have the feeling that is the last time we’ll be in California, tho the train trip was so good I wouldn’t mind doing it again. Three days and three nights in an upper and lower. Which is like bunk beds in the back seat of a Subaru, but the crew is/was fantastic! The food was good as well.

  • Paula

    Wow, the breitfarters must have some really fulfilling, productive lives, having never to learned how to compromise.
    They are wonderful people!
    The best people!
    Tremendous people!

    • Vinnie NYC

      breitfarters, that woke up the adolescent in me and giggling ensued. Thanks Paula 🙂

  • Galvestonian

    WHAT ?

  • kareemachan

    First they castigate bannon and now drumpster. I wish they’d make up their minds.

    Actually, I don’t. It’s much more fun like this.

  • GanymedeRenard

    You know you’re bordering racism when you say/write “illegals”, just like that, used as a noun and not as an adjective. But then, who am I fooling? It’s Breitfart, i.e., the cradle of the “alt-right”.

  • Texpat

    Classic Breitbart. This is advance planning to explain away the coming congressional losses. They’ll blame it on being not far enough right instead of too far to the right.

  • William

    Not being a regular Breitbart reader, do they always use the words “Democratic” and “Democrats”? The standard insult form is “Democrat”. They want it to be a dirty word, like “Liberal”.

  • Gianni

    Breitbart is turning on Donnie? What will he do now to get back into their good graces or doesn’t he need them anymore?

  • Michael R
  • sandollar_man

    The Breitbart “truth inverters” are busy trying to re-write history. It’s their MAIN goal.
    Cuz they don’t even want to remember what their patron Saint – Ronald Reagan – said about his own immigration bill.

    Have you ever read Ronald Reagan’s signing statement from 1986, when he gave amnesty to millions of illegals?

    “We have consistently supported a legalization program which is both generous to the alien and fair to the countless thousands of people throughout the world who seek legally to come to America. The legalization provisions in this act will go far to improve the lives of a class of individuals who now must hide in the shadows, without access to many of the benefits of a free and open society. Very soon many of these men and women will be able to step into the sunlight and, ultimately, if they choose, they may become Americans.” – Nov. 6, 1986, Ronald Reagan signing statement for Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986.

    Their beloved Saint Ronnie said that.

  • JCF