ORLANDO: Police Increase Security After Racist And Anti-Gay Terror Threat Against Jackson Browne Concert

The Orlando Sentinel reports:

Orlando police said they will have an increased presence for Tuesday night’s Jackson Browne concert at the Dr. Phillips Center for the Performing Arts after a possible threat. Police in West Lafayette, Ind., began investigating Sunday after a banner was left at a Unitarian Universalist Church that hosted a protest to mark the one-year anniversary of the inauguration of President Donald Trump.

The banner — which includes vulgar language and misspellings — says “Die [expletive], Orlando just like Los Vegas” with “Janury 23rd” in red letters. Another banner left at the church names Browne and includes racial and anti-gay slurs.

“OPD is aware of this incident and has been in communication with police in West Lafayette, Indiana,” Orlando police said in a statement. “We are aware that there is a planned Jackson Browne concert Jan. 23 at the Dr. Phillips Center and there will be an increased security presence at the event.” A spokeswoman for the center said it learned about the situation on Sunday and has been working with police to ensure the safety of the concert.

  • HZ81

    Why do I think our would-be terrorists(s) are unaware Jackson Browne isn’t brown at all?

    • AmeriCanadian

      I’m truly surprised that his name was spelled correctly, considering they don’t seem to know how to spell Las Vegas.

      • Joe in PA

        Or the current month. 🙁

        I blame Betsy! If only we had a charter school and vouchers and 529 tax havens!

      • Nic Peterson

        You can just smell the superior genetics in that bunch.

        • David Walker

          What spelin? We dont nede ur fuckin spelin?

      • Judas Peckerwood

        Or “January”.

    • Andymac3

      But, but, The Jackson 5 and James Brown must have had babies.

    • kaydenpat

      But he’s very liberal. Perhaps that’s what ticked them off.

  • Paula

    Another day in Trump’s America. *sigh*

    • Snownova

      Wasn’t the Las Vegas shooting a country music festival? AKA Trump supporters central? I mean Orlando and Las Vegas are about as far apart as possible in terms of targets.

      • MonochromeMouse

        Yes, but the Vegas shooter was found to be a trump cultist.

        • Priya Lynn

          That’s the first I’m hearing of that – what’s your source for that belief?

          • MonochromeMouse

            Here’s one http://www.newsweek.com/las-vegas-gunman-was-trump-supporter-happy-stock-market-701597 . It’s also not hard to put 2 and 2 together seeing as how every single domestic terrorist after the unabomber has been a hardcore conservative.

          • Priya Lynn

            Thanks, I don’t see that as being particularly concrete given that he shot country music fans who are primarily Trump supporters themselves. I certainly wouldn’t call him a Trump “cultist” based just on that, seems to be a rather tepid endorsement of Trump. I am also not convinced “every single” domestic terrorist has been a hard core conservative.

      • Paula

        i don’t believe these people put that much thought into their actions.

      • clay

        Orlando and Vegas– tourist hubs.

    • Statistics Palin

      Here’s hoping Wayne Lapierre goes to prison for laundering Russian money to help Dump.

  • JoeMyGod

    My sister and her boyfriend have tickets for the concert tonight. My mother says she wouldn’t blame them if they don’t go.

    • kaydenpat

      It’s a shame that this country has come to this. Thanks Trump. Hope your sister and boyfriend are still able to go and have a good time given the stepped up security.

    • fastlanestranger

      I wouldn’t go. But then I hate concerts.

  • Friday’s_cat

    Orlando chapter of Florida Young Republicans doing?

    • Statistics Palin

      Maybe the Fust Baddest Church of Orlando.

  • kcken

    OT: I’m reviewing the N-400 permanent resident to citizen application form. These questions are something!
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d5e677882b28be9c99ea84e8fb4ae7681f103f5fdde97aebf073b650ba826e25.jpg

    • kcken
    • Joe in PA

      Nothing like up-to-date forms!

      • kcken

        Right! I was thinking, is the Trump admin aware of these ?? LOL

        • AmeriCanadian

          Do you think he or anyone in the Republican party could honestly answer no to question 12?

          • Joe in PA

            I suggest they swap “Germany” for “Russia”.

          • Tawreos

            Many in their base would not be able to answer No to 11 either

          • Hank

            Herr Drumpf could NOT answer thatqeestion…. even if he could read it!!!

          • kcken

            He’d yell FAKE QUESTIONS and blame the Dems….

          • Joe in PA

            And Jared would have to amend his app later. 🙁

          • Mikey

            even question 10 they’d have to say “yes” to at least two of them – they are all GOPers.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      How many 70-80 year olds are applying for citizens ship ?

    • Silver Badger

      Wow. If ICE catches me they’ll have to deport me back to Nebraska.

    • Boreal

      If you check yes on 13, you get instant citizenship under dump administration rules.

    • Steve Smith

      Does “any other totalitarian party” now include the GOP?

    • 🐾vorpal🐾

      If being a complete shit disturber to fundie Christians counts as persecution, I’d have to circle #12 in red and fill in YES with a #2 pencil.

    • jerry

      Similar questions asked when someone in gov’t is getting a security clearance. A neighbor was getting a promotion at Treasury with a higher security, so Secret Service stopped to survey me on the background check. They asked about Communist Party, or ANY OTHER SUBVERSIVE ORGANIZATION…I answered yes, he’s a Republican.

    • Danieruw

      I assume on question 10B you have to answer “yes” if you’ve been a repugnican.

  • Sam_Handwich

    the UU church i work for had security cams installed a couple of years ago cuz assholes keep stealing our copper drain pipes

    • safari

      Who does that?

      • Tawreos

        They’ll watch the tapes and get back to you.

      • Joe in PA

        Copper thieves? Just a guess.

      • SoCalGal20

        The price of copper has gone WAY up. There’s basically a whole black market trading in stolen copper. (No I’m not kidding)

        • Sam_Handwich

          exactly

          and scrap yards just play dumb

        • clay

          China and India are rapidly expanding their electrical grids.

      • killreligion

        Crackheads stole all the copper out of my building under renovation, it’s quite common sadly

        I hate theft-we should cut off hands

        • jmax

          Someone stole the copper lightning rods and cables off the top of one of our buildings here on campus. I so wish there would have been a well-timed electrical storm that day.

          • clay

            There are fairly routine electrocutions in the US due to guys trying to steal high-power lines.

          • AmeriCanadian

            Darwinian selection at work I see.

          • Gustav2

            The cable company a few blocks away used to have people dumpster diving for copper wire.

          • killreligion

            Yeah me too on the shock wish . My husband was checking the place and called me”there’s no water “. I told him to go into the basement and see if the plumber had turned it off. He called from the utility sink “there’s no faucet”

            Then it sank in, I asked him to look up. No plumbing

            Apparently the get away vehicle was a shopping cart. Lucky for them and me I didn’t pull in when they were leaving as I wouldn’t have left skid marks

            They didn’t have a saw, they just grabbed and pulled. Police said it was a homeless group they knew of. No consequences, just sympathy. Major reason I’m a centrist. Liberals are all “but they had a rough upbringing”. No, they are crackheads.

        • Priya Lynn

          That’s what they do in some Muslim countries. Sometimes they cut off people’s hands immediately after an accusation is made if its a powerful person against a weak person.

          Its all well and good until you get a wrongful conviction.

          • killreligion

            Yes of course, I’ve been to “chop chop square” in Riyadh, it’s avowal practice

            It’s pretty serious but All joking aside we need to do something about theft. It’s hardly frowned upon

            I was victim of attempted mugging in Beijing(failed attempt) some idiot American on my trip “they’re just trying to earn a living “. We don’t take theft seriously

      • Andymac3

        The house opposite sold last year after being empty for 2 years, all the copper pipes were stolen, walls cut into, floors pulled up. And no one had noticed.

      • Phaius

        The uni I went to took over an old closed army base. People started stealing the copper rain gutters and drain pipes from the sides of the to be demolished buildings before work crews could remove it themselves.

    • SoCalGal20

      I kid you not, when I was working as an admin assistant at a medical group one day we got a call from one of the standalone radiology facility (places that do like mammograms and stuff) that they were closed for the day because somebody overnight stole copper wiring/pipes (i don’t remember what exactly it was) so they couldn’t run the equipment.

    • Friday

      UU churches are often targeted by Christofascists.

      • Sam_Handwich

        we’ve never had a problem that i’m aware of. tho a congregation not that far away has had problems over the years, including a bomb threat.

        • Friday

          Seems to happen pretty frequently, though it’s only so often they go to violence or credible threats. (And the coverage is usually pretty minimal/nonspecific when it does.)

      • David Walker

        We had an arson fire. That was pre-security cams, but the idiot bragged about it to the wrong person, so that was that. Plus, the damage was minimal. The one that always comes to mind, though, was the attack on the Tennessee Valley UU Church in Knoxville. It was during a performance of the kids’ version of “Annie.” An usher jumped in front of the killer to try to stop the shooting and died for his valor. An older woman, a visitor who came to see her grandchild in the show, was also killed. Members of the congregations overpowered him and kept him down until the cops came.

        • Friday

          Yeah, that’s one of the ones the corporate media saw fit to not really cover, considering they were usually all over mass shooting/terrorism stories.

    • Boreal

      I have a pile of copper piping in our basement from when we had all new plumbing done about a decade ago. I have been slowly bringing some of it each month to the metal recycling company here in town. Each time, they photocopy my license in case the metal was stolen.

      • jerry

        Yes, that happens here too, because that’s a favorite fundraising mechanism for drug addicts.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      A lot of the lights went out on the Henry Hudson Pkwy in NYC for a few nights in the ’70s because someone stole the copper wiring.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      We have an old 50’s house and the water heater is in a closet right at our front door. The overflow pipe is copper and goes through the closet wall to the outside beside the front door. A few years ago somebody twisted it off and broke it to steal approx 2 feet of copper.
      LOL

  • bkmn

    More guns….more guns.

    • Girlgoon

      Open carry laws and every concert goer gets an Uzi, that ought keep everyone safe

  • PickyPecker
  • Sam_Handwich

    why Jackson Browne?

    • Joe in PA

      Because it’s not Jackson White?

    • AmeriCanadian

      He was (is?) an environmental activist. He’s a Democrat as well, having endorsed Obama.

    • jmax

      Because Gordon Lightfoot isn’t touring right now?

      • Hue-Man

        Not long to wait. First date.

        February 13 Clearwater, FL CapitolTheatre
        https://www.lightfoot.ca/2018.htm

      • Lumpy Gaga

        You read my mind.

        • jmax

          I see what you did there 🙂

    • Boreal

      Because reasons

    • gaycuckhubby

      I hope I won’t get blocked by too many people for this… but I would not be shocked if we find out this is a hoax

  • james1200
    • clay

      early reports suggest LGBT hate crimes are up 85% since a year ago

      • james1200

        Yup, led by the murder of Trans folks.

  • Tawreos

    I would go to the concert. The only way they win is when we cower behind locked doors because of their threats.

    • edrex

      and jackson browne is a kick ass musician.

      • David Walker

        “Running on Empty” was practically an anthem for me for years. I am 2 years older than he and the first time I heard it was one of those “holy shit!” moments.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuPejEMZdEI

        • Priya Lynn

          Yes, I remember when that song first came out, I loved it too.

        • Boss Dave✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          The kick ass slide guitar work on that is done by a killer session musician named David Lindley.

  • another_steve

    The LGBT community has no better ally than the Unitarian Universalist Church. Nationwide.

    Let’s all be discriminate when it comes to broad-brush “religion hate,” folks.

    • Chucktech

      Steve, almost everyone who attends UUC is really a non-believer. If I, a dyed in the wool, borderline militant atheist, felt I needed to attend a church it would clearly be UUC.

      • madknits

        When I was doing my internship as a UU ministerial candidate, I had some hazy notion of a Divine Being (which I’ve since thoroughly excised), and one member of my congregation said that there was no room in UU ministry for ministers who believed in god. He actually wanted to fire me from the position, and brought his case to the senior minister, the director of religious education, the chair of the board, and the chair of the intern committee.

        • another_steve

          “No room in UU ministry for ministers who believe in god” is, imo, the exact moral equivalent of the pronouncements of the most radical far right theofascists.

          The person who said that is as ignorant as the likes of Tony Perkins and Franklin Graham.

        • Chucktech

          My impression of the UU community is that if you do, in fact, believe in a god, it’s your god and your god works for you. I think that’s just fine. But it also seems that most UU’s really don’t believe in god but the community gives them the benefits of a church community without all the baggage and superstitious BS.

      • another_steve

        “Non-believer” in a traditional theist sense, perhaps. That doesn’t preclude those with a profound spiritual bent – which is what I believe unites most of UUC’s congregants.

        • Robin

          It’s no wonder UU’s have the highest percentage of advanced degree education amongst all religions.
          I (Jewish) and my husband(recovering Catholic) were married in his UUC church last year and are continuing to be supported by the most inclusive, kind and wise diverse group of people I’ve ever met.

          • another_steve

            They “get it,” Robin. They understand that spirituality is not incompatible with rationality.

            In Judaism there are the Reform and Reconstructionist congregations, among other similar sub-denominations.

            There too – loving, caring people who feel a pull towards the transcendent.

        • Chucktech

          Totally. Just no belief in something (with zero proof) as silly as god up in heaven.

      • JCF

        You have a really rigid dichotomy between belief and non-belief. Something brings people together in a particular place, in a particular time, to ritually Ponder Big Questions: that’s “religious belief”, in its largest sense.

        • Chucktech

          My dichotomy, as far as UU is concerned, is between a unrealistic and child-like belief in an all knowing and controlling god up in heaven versus a belief in and need for “spirituality,” or communion or contemplative and meditative experience. As I said, If I believed that a communion of spirituality (and that has quite a broad definition) and meditation was important to me, UU is exactly where I’d go.

          And some in the UU comunity do believe in a god. Their god. That’s fine, too, it’s just that they don’t seem to have this need to foist it on others.

          • JCF

            “unrealistic and child-like belief in an all knowing and controlling god up in heaven”

            FWIW, I think this reflects VERY few Mainline Christians (and I don’t believe that’s the God spoken of in the New Testament either).

            “a belief in and need for “spirituality,” or communion or contemplative and meditative experience”

            …while I think that DOES reflect the practice of many if not most Episcopalians. The liturgy of the Eucharist serves as a framework for much of that contemplation/meditation, yes, but that’s all it is: a framework, not a boundary (or a point-of-departure for the journey).

    • clay
  • Outlaw Woman

    Just my opinion, but …

    I really do think that the more Trump fails as a president, the crazier the “Trve Trumpists” will get. These cases (and there are more happening every week) are the final death spasms of the fascist right.

    • Rambie

      They are getting crazier and I really hope it is the death spasms of the fascist right but somehow I doubt it.

      • Steve Smith

        the fascist right seem to always become much more visible in times of crisis such as these. With stagnating wages, increasing inequality and a paralysed political system, the danger of these people becoming increasingly powerful is a serious threat. Never, ever let them win.

  • Rex

    Thanks, Trump for giving your “forgotten Americans” a voice.

  • gaycuckhubby

    Hopefully they catch whoever did this

  • Friday

    More Christianist “Religious Freedom,”…. attacking other churches to promote mass murder and terroristic threats.

  • Mikey

    “Investigators have concentrated their search on local grade schools, when analysts realized the grammar and word choices were obviously those of a 9 year old”

    • Girlgoon

      Maybe there’s a link to the Whitehouse, they have a bunch of nine year olds there.

    • edrex

      so he’s an illiterate 19 yo. idiot (literally).

  • safari

    O/T: Follow-up on the CNN terrorist. He’s a kid.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b1491c5c49b2c708f3cc3dd011c36a90bff0c162e3644d28cf64a57c0bd5ca3d.png

    A 19-year-old Michigan man is accused of making several threatening phone calls to CNN in early January, calling the news network “fake news” and saying that he was “coming to gun you all down,” the FBI says.

    Brandon Griesemer, a part-time grocery store worker from Novi, Michigan, was arrested January 19 on a federal threatening charge, according to court documents filed in the Eastern District of Michigan

    ..snip..

    Griesemer’s father, Mark Griesemer, told The Washington Post, “this whole thing has been a mistake, he really didn’t mean any of it. He didn’t know what he was saying, the seriousness of it. We’re not even gun owners or anything like that. We don’t have any, neither does he. More will come out later. Hopefully, this can be settled.”

    https://heavy.com/news/2018/01/brandon-griesemer-michigan-cnn-threat-shooting-arrested/

    • Hank

      He will become an Adult very quickly, when he goes to prison!!!

    • Boreal

      He’s 19. I hope he is tried as an adult and celebrates his 21st birthday in jail.

      • Silver Badger

        With priors, this may happen.

      • alguien

        i believe the age of 18 is the point where people are tried as adults.

    • safari

      The article says he also harassed an Islamic center last September as well.

    • AmeriCanadian

      I guess he will “really mean it” when he follows through on one of his threats.

      • safari

        Considering he has a history of harassment, this is more than a one-off.

    • jmax

      Great job enabling your kid there, Mr. Griesemer.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      a part time grocery store worker…..
      IE the new nazi middle class

      • Tread

        As if the actual Nazis weren’t the same types of people. Americans don’t realize how easy it is to fall into the trap of “But I was just going along with everyone else…”

        • Stephen Elliot Phillips

          depression era unemployed/underemployed bavarians were hiltlers “base”

          • Tread

            They were promised that Hitler would make Germany great again. Literally.

    • Rambie

      Yeah, the kid leared that behaviour somewhere buddy

  • Lazycrockett

    “Both sides”

  • Publius

    “LOS VEGAS”

    Mkay.

  • clay

    Somewhat O/T: Early analysis of last year’s uniform crime reports suggests LGBT hate crimes nearly doubled in 2017. Most victims were trans women (particularly of color) or queer men (often of color), and young. Lesbians might be significantly under-counted due to police not coding them accurately.

    • boatboy_srq

      #NotNormal
      #NotPatriotic

    • Friday

      There’s certainly a lot more stories of brutal attacks and murders against lesbians, particularly as couples, so something’s been intensifying there. I’m occasionally a bit conscious that some folks may *assume* my (actually straight) housemate and I are a couple, just lately. Not that around here I’ve actually spotted much to worry about, but I notice myself checking.

      • clay

        The FBI uniform crime reports seem to show a lot of local police departments reporting incidents of harassment and violence against female roommates, at rates disproportionate to the Census Bureau’s distribution of female shared housing. So, the suggestion is that many of those households are same-sex families, rather than roommates.

        • Friday

          Bigots aren’t necessarily known for their *accuracy,* either, of course. In general, women telegraph less about being straight *or* gay to begin with, so nothing says that the bashers even have to be targeting *accurately* to be motivated by the hatred. It’s still reasonably common for bigots to call women ‘dykes’ simply for not being interested in *them* in particular, and all.

          • clay

            Yes, it’s just as much a hate crime to target an uninterested masculine straight woman as it is to target an uninterested feminine lesbian.

  • Hue-Man

    O/T I’m not sure I like the headline…
    Tim Cook surprises kids taking coding lessons at Apple store in [Toronto’s] Eaton Centre
    Apple chief executive Tim Cook says he could feel the creativity and diversity Canada has to offer as soon as he stepped off the plane.
    https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/01/22/tim-cook-surprises-kids-taking-coding-lessons-at-apple-store-in-eaton-centre.html

    • AmeriCanadian

      There is something to be said about entering Canada. Personally, I always feel much more relaxed when I emerge from the Detroit-Windsor tunnel on the Canadian side. It’s almost as if the sun is shining more brightly and the birds are singing more cheerfully.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        While I am biased, it’s true. When Esteban and I still traveled stateside, he always remarked how at ease he felt once we re-entered Canada. When his mom and family came up, they said the same thing, most notably his mom who, upon arriving in Toronto, couldn’t get over the intermix of races & cultures, all together. And the police who, while not perfect, would actually talk to people walking by on the street (not questioning, just being polite). Again, we’re far from perfect, but there are clear, defined differences and they are palpably felt when entering the country.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    “Los” Vegas?
    It’s always the stupidest motherfuckers isn’t it.
    SMFH!

  • ETownCanuck

    Am I missing something? When he sang “Lawyers in Love”, did they assume all of the Lawyers were of the same sex? Is Jackson Browne secretly the new Lady Gaga?

    • Friday

      These people aren’t exactly known for comprehension of lyrics.

  • Halou

    The name is Las Vegas. Not “Los Vegas”

  • PlutoAnimus

    A single threatening banner shows that a stupid terrorist may be about to attack, and security must be enhanced.

    So I guess the absence of threatening banners shows that an intelligent terrorist may be about to attack, and security must be enhanced in this case, too?

    Making police take all threats seriously really opened the door to endless hoaxes.

    • Jerry Kott

      Terrorist only need to be right once. I believe that more hoaxes are discovered than reported in the press.

  • M Jackson

    Anytime I can play one of my favorite songs of all time. Jackson was like my musical best friend when I was in college.
    https://youtu.be/wV16jd2JbfM

  • edrex

    they DO know that browne is his name and not his color, right?

    • Jerry Kott

      in todays reality, a very reasonable question.

  • sfbob

    I saw Jackson Browne perform at a small club (The Bitter End perhaps?) in the Village in 1972. I kind of hit it lucky; he wasn’t that well-known just quite yet; it was just him; I found myself sitting about five feet from the stage. He thereupon became my first celebrity crush.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Charming. Alas, Trump’s America is not for Americans, but ‘Murikans. Remember that in November and vote accordingly. Don’t fuck it up…and yes, you know who that’s directed at.

    • FelineMama

      Jean-Marc, I think the correct spelling is “Murikkkans”.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Sorry about that, I spelled it with my French-Canadian accent. 🙂

  • pleasebereasonable1

    I saw Browne a couple years back and it was one of the most enjoyable concerts I’ve ever been to. Even sang a song about a gay friend he had.

  • FelineMama

    JACKSON BROWNE? HUH??!!?

    • JCF

      It’s funny, I posted a JB video here just last night…

  • JCF

    OK, gonna say this: I REEEEALLY hope, well, 1) no violence comes of this BUT 2) this isn’t a fake. Because I’ve got an icky feeling of fakeness about this. [I REEEEALLY hope (did I mention this?) that I’m wrong.]

    Jackson Browne…UUs…the intentional-looking misspellings…the script: it all feels fake to me. [Please be wrong JCF. Please be don’t be some dumbass hurting the civil rights cause.]