CHILE: Pope Francis Spawns Outrage After Accusing Victims Of Notorious Pedophile Priest Of Slander

The Associated Press reports:

Pope Francis accused victims of Chile’s most notorious pedophile of slander Thursday, an astonishing end to a visit meant to help heal the wounds of a sex abuse scandal that has cost the Catholic Church its credibility in the country. Francis said that until he sees proof that Bishop Juan Barros was complicit in covering up the sex crimes of the Rev. Fernando Karadima, such accusations against Barros are “all calumny.”

The pope’s remarks drew shock from Chileans and immediate rebuke from victims and their advocates. They noted the accusers were deemed credible enough by the Vatican that it sentenced Karadima to a lifetime of “penance and prayer” for his crimes in 2011. A Chilean judge also found the victims to be credible, saying that while she had to drop criminal charges against Karadima because too much time had passed, proof of his crimes wasn’t lacking.

“As if I could have taken a selfie or a photo while Karadima abused me and others and Juan Barros stood by watching it all,” tweeted Barros’ most vocal accuser, Juan Carlos Cruz. “These people are truly crazy, and the pontiff talks about atonement to the victims. Nothing has changed, and his plea for forgiveness is empty.”

More from the BBC:

Another Barros accuser, James Hamilton, told a news conference the response revealed an “unknown face” of the pontiff. “What the Pope has done today is offensive and painful, and not only against us, but against everyone seeking to end the abuses,” he said.

Earlier in his Chile trip, Francis had met victims of sexual abuse by priests in the country. He cried with them and said he felt “pain and shame” over the scandal. The US-based NGO Bishop Accountability says almost 80 members of Catholic clergy have been accused of child sex abuse in Chile since 2000.

More from the New York Times:

The pope’s comments set off a storm in Chile, raising questions about his commitment to repairing the damage from sexual abuse scandals and improving the decline in the church’s image and following in the traditionally devout country.

“Pope Francis’ attack on the Karadima victims is a stunning setback,” said Anne Barrett Doyle, a co-director of BishopAccountability.org, a group that monitors abuse cases. “He has just turned back the clock to the darkest days of this crisis. Who knows how many victims now will decide to stay hidden, for fear they will not be believed?”

Despite the allegations against Father Barros, Francis appointed him bishop of Osorno, in southern Chile, in 2015. Dozens of priests and legislators said they opposed the move. The pope told a group of tourists visiting Vatican City in 2015 that people in Orsono who protested the appointment were “dumb.”

  • leastyebejudged

    Wow. And this was the good Pope.

    • Jim in TO

      The last “good” pope was Paul VI.

      • Craig Howell

        Are you kidding me? He was the one who disregarded recommendations from his own council of theologians to lift the church’s ban on “artificial” birth control. John XXIII could probably qualify as the last good pope, and he was purely an accidental choice by the 1958 conclave.

  • liondon#iamnotatraitor

    Shorter Pope: prove it.

    • clay

      “Says who?”

  • Boreal

    Anyone who still belongs to this cult is contemptible.

    • Mark McGovern

      That’s like saying anyone who remains an American is a Trumpist, or an expansionist, or an imperialist, or a racist. My 85 year old mother is a Catholic, has been so all of her life, and is not “contemptible”. In fact, she is extremely gay affirming and she, as with many others, have devoted themselves to working from within the organization to change it. We need people to do this. 6 billion religious people are not going away anytime soon. Therefore, our only option is for us to foster change direction through allies, if possible.

      I will state this yet again; while I personally practice no religion, and wish there were none, there are people of religion who are our allies. There are LGBT who are religious/spiritual. Now, we can insult and drive them away to vote for people like Trump and his ilk, or we can align with them, despite our differences in whether there is a god or not. That is our choice.

      • Boreal

        Sell it to someone else. Working from inside the organization to change it is Sisyphus rolling the rock uphill for eternity. Anyone who believes in imaginary friends is not working for any kind of change, just to preserve delusion. This includes my own relatives.

        • Mark McGovern

          I’m not trying to sell anything to anyone. But to carry through your analogy, placing ourselves squarely against all religion is also rolling the rock uphill for eternity. Dead end street. Especially when you want to characterize many good people, whom you don’t know; have never met, as contemptible. I don’t buy into that blanket judgement, holier than thou thing. There are many LGBT who have suffered enough and, for whatever their reasons, have chosen to affiliate to a religion. That does not, in my opinion, make them complicit in a culture of child abuse.

          • Boreal

            LGBT people who belong to cults that hate them are like the LCRs, not living in reality. Anyone who belongs to a cult that does abhorrent things, tacitly supports those things by enabling the cult, whether that sounds unpleasant or not. I don’t care what age you are. You can’t say I oppose those things when you support the cult financially or by being a member.

          • Mark McGovern

            Tempting perspective, but too broad a brush in my opinion. The problem with that argument is it effectively dismisses 5.5 billion people as complicit, thus statistically eliminating any chance of resolution.

            Further, this is not just about us who enjoy basic and broad rights in the west. There are millions of LGBT persons living in openly hostile countries that would beat, torture, imprison and kill them, if outed. Perhaps alliance with LGBT friendly religious organizations may be their only hope in the foreseeable future, given their grief is sourced largely to anti-LGBT churches/organizations.

            At times, the antidote must be sourced from the poison itself.

          • Boreal

            LGBT friendly religious organizations in other countries=unicorns.
            Religion is the problem, not part of any solution.

          • GanymedeRenard

            Or platypuses.
            (Before anyone says something about the correct plural, this is the one used within the scientific community).

          • Joseph Miceli

            Those five .5 billion people are complicit . It is not a pleasant truth but it is still true. It’s like Republicans and guns, or Republicans and anti-gay law . You may believe differently even though you are registered Republican but if you vote for Republicans you are complicit .

          • Mark McGovern

            So those peasants living in small mountain villages in third world countries where the only institution and center of life is the church are complicit in crimes committed by priests in Boston?

            Sorry. I don’t buy that at all.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Believe what you want. It’s not my problem .

          • Publius

            I completely agree. Unfortunately, many people, systematically even, have treated LGBT people terribly in the name of Christianity. That’s left a few wounds so deep that it assures those victims are not likely to forgive. There’s no reasoning away the thinking that holds Christians in contempt — it will just take time to heal.

          • Mark McGovern

            I completely understand how people feel about this, probably more so than anyone here would know, given no one here knows my history. Nonetheless, I refuse to live resenting most of the population of the planet for crimes committed by a small percentage. I just cannot see the productivity in it.

          • killreligion

            If they choose the rcc they are funding the cover up of rape

          • Mark McGovern

            One is as bad as the other. What’s the difference?

          • PlutoAnimus

            Christians used to believe disease was caused by evil spirits. Thanks to science, a fundamentally anti-religious way of thinking, few Christians fall for their old bullshit.

            That dead end you describe is merely you refusing to move forward.

          • Mark McGovern

            Me or you not moving forward? Do you envision seeing the end of religion in your life, or do you plan on living out your life in resentment of all people religious? I refuse to do so. I understand some people cannot.

          • Joseph Miceli

            It isn’t so much resentment as it is a recognition that religious people are functionally insane . I refuse to buy into this crazy mass delusion . More than that , I refuse to tolerate having so-called people of faith hurting others in the name of their face . No molesting children for Jesus or letting them die because vaccinations show a lack of faith .

        • Romero

          Right on!

      • Joseph Miceli

        Unfortunately, through no fault of her own, she is complicit. As long as she gives to the organization they are using her money to bankroll their pedophilia crime ring. She doesn’t see it and she’d be appalled to face it because of course she doesn’t approve of such things, but that’s the reality. Unlike being an American, you CAN quit the Catholic Church. Just stop going and stop paying them. Can’t really do that with the U.S. unless you uproot your life.

        • Mark McGovern

          Good analogy; that’s exactly how they see it; uprooting their life.

        • Boreal

          Thank you. One chooses to belong to a cult. One does not choose their nationality.

      • Nic Peterson

        We certainly will attract more flies with honey and I think that we can treat people of faith with dignity and respect when they show us the same. However, change will only occur in an organization (or people for that matter) when the cost of staying the same outweighs the cost of change.

        • Mark McGovern

          Agreed.

          Yeah, I always take a lot of grief here on this subject. Religion has profoundly hurt a lot of people here including myself, so I get it. But it is NEVER going away.

          So what to do, what to do….

          • killreligion

            Sorry this isn’t personal. I simply disagree. Humans have been around for how long and for a very short time have had these cults? Sure the Greeks had their gods but it was very tongue in cheek. Earlier it was natural/earth/origin myths. The obey me/pay me or burn model and especially the ONE TRUE GOD ALL OTHER BELIEVERS ARE SCUM is contemporary

            We have had an enlightenment going on since at least the 16th c and in educated countries it has penetrated huge majorities (Netherlands where I’m going tomorrow is nearly all nontheist. )

            It is simply bad statistics to assume it will always be around, like stocks always go up. I for one refuse to believe there is no hope for humans if we start educating and stop over/in breeding.

        • killreligion

          Treat with dignity and respect. All people deserve that. Point out the indignity of funding harmful cults is not in conflict with that.

      • Galvestonian

        Mark … I don’t think the issue is with the church goers or the flock. It’s the priests and those above them. The religion is still there but the clergy has major problems and denying those issues or casting blame on the victim is not the way to resolve them.

        • Mark McGovern

          Agreed. It is the statements of every church member being complicit I disagree with.

      • killreligion

        Sure we can work with religious people, maybe even cite them but comparing our country to the cult is a Really bad analogy. Our nationality is not chosen, it’s not evil and it’s not based on a lie. Old people may get a pass for other reasons but you don’t get cult of you are comparing it to our country

        For one thing that cult has been evil forever, trump has been our leader just one year

        • Mark McGovern

          Not as bad an analogy as you might presume. Nationality can most certainly be chosen; many are born here and many move here. I live here part time, so I could choose to move anytime I want. Am I then complicit in the crimes of the USA while Trump, or any other President is in power?

          I get it; you clearly do not like religion. I do not like religion. So there, that’s that.

          My question is this: What positive outcomes do we (LGBT) get by pushing away or ridiculing allies or potential allies just because they are of a religion? They make up a majority of the USA population and a huge majority of the world population. What is in that strategy for us and, more importantly, what is in it for our LGBT brothers and sisters living in truly repressive nations where our handling of this issue can impact them further, for better or for ill?

          Many young evangelicals are sympathetic to LGBT rights and needs. Should we continue to blanket insult them and push them right into the arms of our foe, or should we nurture a relationship with them, and get their votes? There are 2 ways to answer that question. One is guided by resentment and emotion; the other by practicality and reality. While I choose the latter, I can nonetheless still respect and understand those who cannot get past the former.

          • killreligion

            So all I said is your analogy is bad. Go ahead and work with religious people, that’s not what I replied about. It remains wrong, I don’t have the option to change nationality nor the desire. One president won’t change that

            Plus you ask a question. I say no you are not complicit in trumps crimes like you started this argument withsuggedting but now question.

            He is one president. The church has 2000 years of being evil for which it was created

            Yes I hate religion. For one thing the Christian scientists stole over $20M from my family half of which would be mine. And that’s only the beginning as religion has done much more harm to humanity than stealing a little bit of money.

  • Guy Johnson

    And I’m done. I gave him a chance. No more.

    • Butch

      I’ve never been able to move beyond ambivalence about him. He seems to take two steps back for every step forward; I think these remarks put him in the negative column forever.

      • I have to agree. He is more forward thinking than a lot of popes (particularly on silence) but he’s still beholden to a very insular, very broken system. He could easily take some steps to mitigate this controversy but seems to instead puff his chest up at every opportunity. Bad scene.

      • gaycuckhubby

        Yeah, ambivalence is a good word for how I felt about him.

    • Todd20036

      Naïve. It’s the RCC. You were a fool even to give him the chance.

      • DCLXVI

        Amen!

      • Guy Johnson

        I’m gonna be nice and not cuss you the fuck out. You don’t know me.

    • drbrentzenobia

      The Francis wobble continues. That’s the story with this pope: get people’s hopes up then flip-flop.

    • PlutoAnimus

      “But I will be willing to give the next Catholic Pedophile Leader the benefit of the doubt, just like I gave it to this one.”

      Whatever.

  • Tawreos

    They sentence a priest to a lifetime of penance and prayer for raping kids. And they wonder why people are leaving the church.

  • well, that helps explain why those resignations from the group that included survivors of church sex abuse resigned, sharing that nothing had really been done.

  • AtticusP

    Too bad this one turns out to be just like all of the popes that came before him.

    Sad.https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/973dbe7e9b6a7eb330cf065d376ba0f290346ad50b4a49326eb0d5ea344f3e8e.jpg

    • Tawreos

      How is he going to tell the kid he is there to help the kid get his shorts off

    • John Ruff

      They’re always the same.

  • Uncle Mark

    So a man of faith, who requires that his flock accept what he says solely on faith…refuses to accept the word of several members of his flock…requiring proof. I had no idea there were no mirrors for self-reflection at the Vatican

    • zhera

      They’re all vampires, so mirrors are pointless.

      • GanymedeRenard

        Great analogy!

    • GanymedeRenard

      Yup. Funny how he never requires proof of his Christ’s existence.

  • John Ruff

    Catholics: domestic terrorists

  • safari

    Remember when he was The Advocate’s person of the year?

  • Stogiebear

    There’s a good reason I call him Pope Franny of the Forkéd Tongue.

    • Natty Enquirer

      I was raised Catholic and immediately saw through Bergoglio’s half-truths.

  • skyweaver

    This guy seems relatively positive one moment and an absolute asshole the next

    • Friday

      Especially depending what language he’s speaking at the time. The ‘progressive’ stuff is for American corporate media cover, since American Catholics aren’t down with the bigotry and abuse.

  • safari

    O/T: MSU is having a board meeting right now with regard to the Nassar case. The board has requested MI AG and GOP governor candidate Bill Schuttee to investigate MSU’s handling of the case.

    • Tawreos

      How thorough of an investigation can it be when the person running it is also running for governor?

      • safari

        Aside from the trial, it’s all political at this point anyway.

        • safari

          Except for the victims, of course.

  • Statistics Palin

    Where’s Vorpal? If I were him, I’d be stocking up on marshmallows to sell at the next Chilean church burnings.

  • Todd20036

    And remember kids, this is the “good” pope.

    • TuuxKabin

      nope. not this one. none of them. probably never will be.

    • Judas Peckerwood

      Just ask the boys over at The Avocado!

  • Dean Gold

    The third kiddie fucker protecting pope. And the roman catholic criminal organization has moral authority? People who think they are superior because of their religion, christian, muslim, or jewish or zoroastrian or pastafarian are the problem. relgious superiority philosophy {and that is the purpose of religion} is pure evil.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHRDfut2Vx0

  • Adam Stevens

    Again, this just fits…

    Y’know what I was thinking about, earlier today? I was thinking ‘bout those streetgangs they got in Los Angeles, the Crips and the Bloods? I was thinking about that buncha new laws they came up with, in the 80’s I think it was, to combat those street-gangs, those Crips and those Bloods.

    And, if I remember rightly, the gist of what those new laws said was, if you join one of these gangs, and you’re running with ‘em, and down the block from you one night, unbeknownst to you, your fellow Crips, or your fellow Bloods, shoot up a place, or stab a guy, well, even though you didn’t know nothing about it, even though you may’ve just been standing on a streetcorner minding your own business, those new laws said you are still culpable. You are still culpable, by the very act of joining those Crips, or those Bloods, in the first place. Which got me thinking, Father, that whole type of situation is kinda similar to you Church boys, ain’t it? You’ve got your colors, you’ve got your clubhouse, you’re, for want of a better word, a gang. And if you’re upstairs smoking a pipe and reading a bible while one of your fellow gang members is downstairs fucking an altar boy then, Father, just like the Crips, and just like the Bloods, you’re culpable. Cos you joined the gang, man.

    And I don’t care if you never did shit or never saw shit or never heard shit. You joined the gang. You’re culpable. And when a person is culpable to altar-boy-fucking, or any- kinda-boy-fucking, I know you guys didn’t really narrow it down, then they kinda forfeit the right to come into my house and say a word about me, or my life, or my daughter, or my billboards. So, why don’t you just finish your tea there, Father, and get the fuck outta my kitchen.

    ~ Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri

    • Todd20036

      PERFECT!

    • HanyBaal

      How many truds can one tolerate in the swimming pool before calling it a sewer? It’s the kind of soul searching I did before leaving religion (Islam).

    • narutomania

      Goddamn, that’s some amazing writing.

      • Judas Peckerwood

        Excellent film, too — see it if you haven’t already.

  • safari

    O/T: ShitShow at 10:30 form ShitHouse

    https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/954372175208878080

    • Joe in PA

      Pfft…I’m washing the dog’s hair.

      • TuuxKabin

        Ya’ got those burrs and stickers outta the cutie?

        • Joe in PA

          Almost, hubbie worked on her last night while we watched (don’t judge) Lark Rise to Candleford.

          • TuuxKabin

            What’s a Lark Rise to Candleford? A bird in your garden?

          • Joe in PA

            Excellent guess…but it is a BBC show we stream on Amazon. Not exactly high-brow, but entertaining, non violent, pretty scenery. Set in rural England, 19th C.

            http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1077744/?ref_=nv_sr_1

          • TuuxKabin

            Hmmmmm. Looks easy on the eyes. What do you wear while watching? Period garb?
            Getting closer to buying a screen to watch. Maybe hook up to one of the streamers what stream movies. Recommendation? How many streamers do you stream? And do you remember the play/movie, “Streamers?” Completely different concept.
            Marching with NARAL tommorow. You have a demo nearby?
            Ahhh Fresh squeezed grapefruit, Ruby red.
            Later.

          • Joe in PA

            Not sure what your asking for a recommendation on…a streaming capable TV or the streaming service itself. I probably shouldn’t help you with the TV because they change so frequently…we have a Visio Ultra HD. Cnet.com has pretty good “comparison stuff”. I think I would recommend Amazon Prime for vids…we have Netflix streaming also but we’ve been finding more and more stuff to watch on Amazon.

            I don’t remember Streamers…I’ll look for it.

            Have a good time tomorrow. Not marching anywhere. I was prepared to go to DC but they aren’t really having one there (at least not like last year). xoxoxo

    • Halou

      There is some paint I need to watch drying, thanks anyway.

  • Rex

    The Pope was channeling Trump.

  • Natty Enquirer

    This coverage is muddled. There is no dispute that Karadima committed crimes. Francis is defending the bishop on charges of covering up the crime. That said, his statement is remarkably unguarded for a man who is the Vatican’s leading propagandist, pulling back the curtain, for a moment, on their recalcitrant old-boys-club mentality.

    • gaycuckhubby

      Is there a German word for that feeling of getting properly worked up and outraged then finding out the issue isn’t as clear cut as you first thought?

      • liondon#iamnotatraitor

        Trumpengruven

      • Amanda B. Rekendwith

        Gnevermind!.

        • gaycuckhubby

          Lol. Love it!

      • CottonBlimp

        What isn’t clear cut about this? The Bishop allowed children to be raped and the Pope is defending him.

    • The_Wretched

      Thanks for the clarification. Frank is still wrong though. The bishops doing the cover-ups are culpable on their own.

    • zhera

      Accepting the bishop’s guilt is to accept the Vatican’s guilt. He can’t/won’t do that. But there are good ways and bad ways to do that, and he chose the bad one. The one that a guilty part chooses.

  • Halou

    Despite all the talk and the PR that this new pope has brought to the Vatican nothing has actually changed.

  • SilasMarner

    Fuck a whole bunch of this pig of a pope and his church. They are evil!

    • Bambino

      If they actually get fuck, they would not be going after little kids.

      • SilasMarner

        Fuck the pope and all his minions
        with a cactus.

        • Mikey

          only his minions who have cacti?

          • SilasMarner

            You get the idea.

  • clay

    and, just 11 days ago:

    “Catholic League: Secular Groups Should “Mirror” The Catholic Church’s Way Of Handling Sexual Misconduct” and Bill Donohue thinks Francis is too liberal.

    http://www.joemygod.com/2018/01/09/catholic-league-secular-groups-mirror-catholic-churchs-way-handling-sexual-misconduct/

    • Gustav2

      Gee, why would an enabler want to support an enabler protection racket?

    • zhera

      I’m just waiting for the accusations against Donohue. He’s so smarmy and evil, defending the church at all costs.

  • Christopher

    The Catholic Church is a criminal organization that needs to be charged as such under the RICO law.

  • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

    Again, I really like this Pope. Sooo progressive!

    • PR

      We need to start feeding xtians to the Lions again.

      • yes b’y
      • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

        Remind me why we ever stopped.

        • Galvestonian

          I think Constantine was doing some weed or drinking too much wine from those lead glazed wine bowls and hallucinated some cross in the sky while zonking out looking at the sun. He flipped out and got all christiany and such.

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            Makes sense.

      • Galvestonian

        They make good garden torches, too.

  • PR

    Any one who supports this so called pope is a child molester.

  • Dayglo

    I’ve worked with some devout Catholics for years. There was no crisis of faith or “Spotlight” for them. They would refuse to believe any abuse allegations and defended pedophile priests at any cost. I pitied their children.

    • Chuck in NYC

      Brainwashed into believing in hell, a concept created by this pope’s predecessors.

    • zhera

      I once asked a catholic what she thought about the abuse scandals and how it affected her faith. She was very clear on it being some bad seeds making the rest look bad, and the former poop did a lot of good work to stop it.

      I had to leave because WHAT?!?!?!?!????

  • Andymac3

    But I see your true colors
    Shining through
    I see your true colors
    And that’s why I don’t need you.

  • The_Wretched

    And there it is. Pope FuffyBunny isn’t actually a fluffy bunny for all the fluffy bunny things he says. Underneath, he’s still on-board with official policy. In this case, that’s blaming the victim and shielding the priests.

  • I’m actually convinced that a requirement for being pope is that you must have an identical twin. There’s clearly two popes: the religious leader pope, and the head-of-state pope.

    I really think this is something that the Church would do, and I say that as a recovering Catholic.

    • Winky

      If you lift his dress you will see his twin upside down walking on his hands. When you need “Good Pope” you just pick him up and turn him over. If you need “shithead Pope” just flip him back over!

  • Okaaaay, looks like the pope lost his poker face.

    • Mikey

      wouldn’t that be his “poper face”?

  • zhera
  • Bj Lincoln

    Years ago when my mom wanted to marry a man who had been around a long time already and was a good man, I thought it was a good idea. When she had to become catholic to do it I was pissed! I remind them both why I can’t stand the RCC with every article I come across.
    Why ANY LGBT person calls themselves catholic and/or gives them money is beyond me.

    • Joseph Miceli

      That’s because you aren’t stockholmed. That’s really the only reason I can see.

  • Joseph Miceli

    Catholics…Republicans… we know who the enemy really is, thank you pointing it out over 20 years ago Sinead O’Connor. If only we had listened.

  • Friday

    More two-faced shit from the supposedly ‘progressive’ Pope.

  • Gerry Fisher

    It wasn’t an “unseen face.” There were signs.

  • Joseph Miceli

    Yet we will hear from the Catholic apologists in their clear, high little voices like kiddie angles “Oooooh! We aren’t all like that!” To which I say, As long as you support the institution in any way, you are COMPLICIT! YOU make it possible for priests to rape little kids.
    Religion: not just for stupid sheeple, it’s also for child predators too!

    • Boreal

      Yup, getting lectured by one below on how they are working from inside the church to change things.

      • Joseph Miceli

        Absurd. While Jesus himself never condemned homosexuality Catholic dogma is rife with Paul’s blatherings about how much he hated us, and of course Catholicism owes more to Paul than it does to Jesus. The church is inherently anti-gay and that is its nature. To change, it would have to become something else and there’s 2000 years of inertia that says …”no!”

        • Barry William Teske

          Might I suggest a rocking motion.
          Works for me when I need to get up off the toilet.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Is that why Jewish men rock back and forth while praying? Oy!

    • Reality.Bites

      Where is Another Steve now that you mention him?

      • Joseph Miceli

        Sadly, exactly who I was thinking of. Well, it wouldn’t be the first time I’ve been accused of trolling.

    • Ogre Magi

      is it any wonder that religion idealizes sheep so much
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FToiP0_WqkA

      • Joseph Miceli

        Ugh. As they all crawl around on all fours it reminds me of the human centipede . That’s the high point of this video . Don’t even get me started about the hypocrite and wearing a black Afro and a boombox with his pants falling around his ankles . Because of course sheep and racism go hand-in-hand .

  • Phillip in L.A.

    No, until he sees the proof, he might say the charges are “unproven”–even though that also would be a lie! “Calumny” and “slander” are words “His Holiness” should know better than using, especially in this context.

  • Tempus Fuggit

    Calumny, eh? I see. Is that Popish for “fake news”, then, I guess?

  • Mikey

    The leader of the Roman Catholic church is a hypocrite?
    Shocked, I am! Positively shocked, I say.
    /not

  • DoctorDJ

    Wave bye bye as the Roman Catholic Church fades further into irrelevance. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b931107c3706a02ba7f62f1566afbb4fbb2f33e2125d0246ebe778994ed6b8c3.gif

    • GanymedeRenard

      I wish. Unfortunately, its influence is growing in Asia and Africa. And Latin America is being plagued by U.S.-exported evangelical/pentecostal ideologies. I don’t know which is worse. Ugh!

  • Reality.Bites

    Too bad it’s January and too late for the Advocate to name him man of the year

  • bkmn

    The fish rots from the head.

  • Boy Elvis

    Around here we already knew this, but Pope Frances is just another liar in a stupid robe.

  • Karl Dubhe 2

    I’m not surprised he did that.

    This is a result of his Church’s belief that a confession is as good as forgiveness.

    They’re quite wrong.

  • Blake Jordan

    The Pope remains the most complicit head of the biggest pedophile ring to ever exist!!!
    Probably why he remains such an ardent anti-LGBTQ+ activist, even though he appears to be “wising up” on other things…

  • Mike__in_Houston

    Honor. Thieves.

  • Harveyrabbit

    it sentenced Karadima to a lifetime of “penance and prayer”

    Now that’s what I call deterrence!

  • LovesIrony

    pope, fuck your mother.

  • Barry William Teske

    Stand in front of me and I shall teach you about slander.
    Bring your ‘book’.

  • Jefe5084

    fuckin Hypocritical devil man.

  • Galvestonian

    OOOOOPs … wrong move by the Pope. Der crapola is not only hitting the fan, it has completely buried and destroyed it. Big, big huuuuugely big stink.

    Listen and you can hear the Catholic church going down the toilet.

  • Snownova

    And the “cool pope” shows his true colors. A pedophile protector like all his filthy cult.

  • Pip

    Well, that was a quick turn around. Guess he’s taking pointers from Donny on how to handles the masses.

  • JWC

    Slill hiding this shit

  • BourbonGal

    Lolz, epic fail.

  • #DJTK5F

    Yea, I say unto you in a kind, gentle, loving, non-slanderous way, truly this man is the anti-Christ.

    Unfortunately, the Catholic church can do even worse.

    Also, fuck off and die, bugger.

  • Xuuths

    The frosting of kindness on a turd, is still a turd. The pope is evil, regardless of how kindly he can be in very isolated instances.

  • GanymedeRenard

    “…sentenced Karadima to a lifetime of ‘penance and prayer’ for his crimes…”

    Ok?

    Matthew 18:6: “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”

    The Poop is one of the biggest charlatans of our time, the successor of a line of criminals and pedophile-enablers! Go to hell! And fuck The Advocate for this:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ac5b88d896ce5bbd09ab8df6b27cec2fc904a649f7f44977059240a7c98c29d9.jpg

  • teedofftaxpayer

    Same old crap from the Catholic, just a different Pope. They continue to hide the pedophiles.

  • Vinnie NYC
  • andrew

    It looks like the light is dimming on Francis’ halo.

  • Ogre Magi

    OH BUT THIS POPE IS DIFFERENT, HE IS GOING TO CHANGE THE CHURCH’S STANCE ON GAYS,CONTRACEPTION,ETC

    yeah right

  • Mark Cross

    Tim Minchin already took care of the Popes and all their apologists:
    https://youtu.be/Be5hkPwwjeM

  • Guido Miller

    If you read this carefully, what it is saying is the Pope does not believe his brother bishop covered up for the pedophile priest. He is protecting his man in Chile. He is not protecting the pedophile.

    That being said, he is using unusually strong language to make his point, and it is aytpically non-political in its tone.

  • Rocco

    Incredible. So many had so much hope that this pope would be different. He seemed to cultivate that image as well. It is appalling that he would blame the victims’ families. Then salt in the would that he would appoint the perp/protector as a bishop. Smh…

  • James

    Fuck this pope and all popes.

    It beggars belief that in the face of all these revelations of rape and corruption the Catholic church still has any adherents.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • JCF
  • The New Paige Turner™

    Headline: Man wearing a dress is a hypocrite.

    • Schlukitz

      A Pope who has lived most of his life in relative obscurity who, after his death, will manage to achieve total oblivion!

  • Schlukitz

    Trump singing to the strains of “I say tomato and you say tomahto”…

    I say false newsy and you say calumny…..”

  • J Ascher

    A leopard doesn’t change his spots even though he may hide in camouflage.

  • cleos_mom

    Took years, but the mask finally slipped.