Son Of New Jersey Gov Makes “OK” Hand Sign

The Washington Examiner reports:

Democratic New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy’s son stirred controversy after he appeared to form a hand sign during his father’s official swearing-in ceremony that’s been linked to white supremacists and nationalists. Josh Murphy, 20, formed an upside-down “OK” signal with his right hand as the new governor took his oath of office Tuesday in Trenton, N.J.

The gesture has been innocuously used as part of the Circle Game, popularized by TV show “Malcolm in the Middle,” where participants jokingly punch anyone they can trick into looking at the signal. But the sign has also become common among white nationalists and supremacists, such as Richard Spencer, to symbolize the letters “W” and “P” for “white power.”

According to the Anti-Defamation League, the recent meaning of the hand sign traces back to a post on the extremist 4chan message board which called for trolling liberals into believing the symbol stood for “white power” since Trump often uses the gesture to punctuate his sentences.

Since then, however, the hand sign has been eagerly adopted by literal white nationalists and prominent alt-right figures, effectively undoing its original trolling intent.

  • Lazycrockett

    Someone better be in the back yard getting a switch.

    • Karl Dubhe 2

      I’d argue that he should move out of public housing (dad’s new house) and get a fucking job instead.

      The new governor had better be aware of being watched closely too.

      • MBear

        The apple doesnt fall too far from the tree.

  • kanehau

    I’ve a particular hand sign for you…

  • djcoastermark

    Better be some damage control and some serious talking to the kid.

  • Sam_Handwich

    uh, how do we know this was intentional?

    he wasn’t staring at a camera with his hand held high, as in the other pics

  • JoeMyGod
    • Cuberly Deux

      Oh lordy….yep. On purpose.

    • Lazycrockett

      Yeah that’s intentional.

      • JCF

        I would say so. But PERHAPS for non-racist reasons. Still, stern talking to is REQUIRED.

        • j.martindale

          No. Parent has no responsibility to control a 20-year-old. His kid is a prick. And he will have to defend himself because he has Nazi sympathies.

          • JCF

            I didn’t realize he was an adult. Still might be WISE for the Governor to have a word…

          • Chucktech

            I’d certainly demand from him to know what the fuck that was about.

          • Alexodia

            Well likely the circle game as seen from Malcolm in the middle

          • Jeffrey

            He doesnt have nazi sympathies, its a dumb thing that kids are doing again. Its a big meme trend right now.

          • timncguy

            right, just like it was perfectly ok for all the kids to use the phrase “that’s so gay”. You know, because they were all doing it. Because it was a big meme. It didn’t mean anything. WRONG. It meant something and this does too. Besides, he’s not a KID. He’s a 20 year old man.

          • Alexodia

            Who said it was okay. He was correcting that it was Nazi sympathies.

            It does mean something its the Circle Game you see in malcolm in the middle.

          • timncguy

            nope, kids are not playing the circle game. Young white men are playing the nazi game.

          • Alexodia

            Guess kids aren’t eating Tide Pods either?

          • timncguy

            again, a 20 year old man is NOT A KID
            a 20 year old man who is a politicians son, knows about the nazi sign, knows he is being watched and knows better.
            Even if he thought he was doing a Malcolm in the Middle game, he is old enough and aware enough of the other meaning esoecially in the setting he is in

          • Alexodia

            This stupid game has been around since at least the 70’s and to be fair do you really consider the majority of 20 year olds to be mature grown adults? If you do I got a nice profitable business to sell you.

            20 might as well be call idiot stage rather than adult.

          • timncguy

            I consider a 20 year old who is the son of a politician and is participating in a swearing-in ceremony for his father to be adult enough to take the situation seriously and also to be aware enough to know the alternate meaning for that sign

          • Alexodia

            Then you have more faith in both politicians and those reaching idiothood than I do.

          • Jeffrey

            That is what we call a non sequitur

          • timncguy

            you mean you think it is OK to flash a nazi sign just because all the cool kids are flashing dumb nazi signs?

          • Jeffrey

            He wasn’t flashing a Nazi sign. Have you missed the rest of the story? I feel like a lot of JMGers don’t get out a lot and maybe they get too much of their news from blogs. Just an observation.

        • Scott Carpenter

          I was trying to be charitable, looking at the still, thinking maybe a nervous tick. But no, that was on purpose.

        • CJAS

          Yep. And the idea that parents have no responsibility for
          their 20-year-olds who are completely dependent upon them for food, shelter, healthcare, and education is absurd. That young man is still completely within his parent’s sphere of influence.

    • Karl Dubhe 2

      The timing is fucked as well. Just as daddy says ‘so help me god’.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Yeah that was about as deliberate as it gets.

        • Karl Dubhe 2

          It also reveals a ‘religious’ element to the white power nutters. They’ve always found comfort in the idea that a white god created them; special like.

          We’re all going to think ourselves cursed, to live in these interesting times. Even the ones who think they’ll be cursing are going to end up sad.

    • DaddyRay

      That was totally intentional

    • Intentional.

    • Corina Jamison

      No, it’s the “finger circle game” aka “Gay test game.” It’s been around for years and is popular again with teen boys. Crazy that this was made into news and was gotten wrong.

    • Sam

      I’ve devoted way too much time to this story.
      Watch this video for comparison.

    • Jeffrey

      Could you make it clear to the readers that this isn’t necessarily a nazi sign. People condemning this kid for playing a stupid game.

      • Chucktech

        …at what is a milestone moment in his father’s career. I’d be mighty tee’d at my incorrigible little miscreant brat if he did that.

        • Jeffrey

          I absolutely agree. It’s childish and dumb. But it’s not a Nazi thing. That’s laughable.

    • EDinMCO

      What. A. Fucking. Moron. Will be used by GOP/white supremacists to validate and excuse every racist doing the same.

      Well done, Josh. Hope boosting your Snapchat followers was worth it, fucktard.

  • Elsewhere1010

    It’s perfectly possible that the kid had no idea what that hand signal represents.

    I don’t believe that’s true for one single second, but it’s possible.

  • safari


  • Cuberly Deux
  • JT

    Someone needs a spanking.

  • Sam_Handwich
  • JCF

    Yikes, and this is a Democrat? [Perhaps someone needs to be clued in that the Irish weren’t always considered “white”?]

    • juanjo54

      At one time Irish, Jews, Italians and “Russians” [basically all Slavic people f Russia but also Poland, and Middle Europe] were all considered as non-White and of sub-par intellect. There was a study published by a scientist based upon IQ tests he took of immigrants around 1908 which proved this “fact”. It was used in the decision making process which led to the Immigration Act changes in the early 1920s. Jews for example were shown to be of lower intelligence than 83% of all “White” people [read WASP]. Russians of lower intelligence than 86% of Wasps and Irish came in at around 93% dumber and Italians at about the same.

    • perversatile


  • Lazycrockett

    and remember Malcolm in the Middle for the right reasons.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Uh, I realize his kid is in his 20s but the Governor has some serious parenting and damage control to do.

    • Todd20036

      When you are 20, you are old enough to vote, get drafted, drive, smoke, own a gun.

      You’re an adult. This fucker knew exactly what he was doing.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    As a SCUBA diver it pisses me off that they use that very important hand sign to mean something so ugly.

    To lighten the mood, speaking of SCUBA signs…

  • Artsy

    Growing up in the South as schoolkids, if you made that gesture below your beltline and someone looked down you’d punch them in the arm and say “Cheerio!” Not defending this young man but that is what it looks like to me.

    • Duh-David

      In 2018, this is not the Circle Game. [See half dozen examples above]

      • Sam

        Yet none of those examples have the fingers point down. I seem to recall some other cases of the “white power” trolling gesture held low to the waist that still contorted the wrist so as to keep the fingers pointed upward.

        While I’ve never seen the circle game in real life, the motion of the arm gesture in the video Joe posted clearly aligns with how it’s been presented in TV and movies.

  • Gravitas

    The below the waist part makes me think he’s doing it as part of the game. For it to “count” they have to look at it when it is below your waist. It’s been pretty popular among the young and bro-y set for a long time now. So yeah, I doubt it was malicious (or, at least, not nationalism).

  • Artsy

    From the Urban Dictionary:
    Circle Game
    A game for two or more players in which one player makes a circle with his/her hand (sort of like an “OK” sign, or similar to the American Sign Language letter F) below their waist and attempts to get the other player(s) to look at it. If at least one other player looks at the person’s hand in while it’s making this sign below the waist, the person who got the others to look at their hand gets to punch all of the players who saw the circle, generally in the arm/shoulder area. This is generally a game that’s played all day and out of the blue. The idea is to catch the other player(s) off guard and get them to look at the “circle” below your waist to get the privilege of punching them.

    • JCF

      Yeah, maybe. And for a Governor’s son? OFFICIALLY OVER, now!

    • Dramphooey

      The circle game is old and I remember it from when I was a kid. You just made a circle with the four fingers closely held together as if you were holding something; no OK sign. The joke was “hey, look at this” and if you looked you got punched in the arm. It makes no sense here because who is going to be punched?

      • Publius

        I’m guessing he was expecting that his friends would be watching this. If they noticed (which they obviously would/did), then he would have gotten them. Either way all it is is a stupid game. I don’t think there’s cause for alarm.

  • Sam_Handwich

    Has anyone bothered to question the young man? Is there something in his past, from social media, etc, that would justify jumping to such a harsh conclusion without even asking him about it?

    • JoeMyGod

      Not that I’ve found. That’s why I left the headline rather open-ended.

      • Sam_Handwich



    • Tomcat

      No matter the reasoning the idiot had to do it if we ignore it, it grows into a bigger problem.

    • j.martindale

      No. We are old enough to know better. 20 is no child. He has the responsibility to defend his Nazi-esque behavior.

      • Sam_Handwich

        sure. but let him defend it before jumping to conclusions.

        • j.martindale

          He’s up.

      • Alexodia

        We are also old enough to know 20 might as well be designated the age of idiothood.

    • David in Palm Springs

      I guarantee he’s not playing the circle game. So if he’s not playing the circle game, what message do you think he’s sending?

  • There’s “ok”…and then there’s the peculiar gesture like this where it is clear the individual is forcing their hand into an unnatural and strained position.

    To be the ‘white power’ symbol, the thumb and forefinger need to make as close to an actual circle as possible, with the hand and wrist turning into a “P”. This could still be innocuous…if not for the awkward spreading of the three remaining fingers, forming the “W.”

    These racist fucks know exactly what they’re doing and why they’re doing it.

    Josh is 20 years old. He’s too goddamned old for this to be some harmless prank, especially in today’s climate.

    • Anyway, would be good to know what the fuck this twerp was thinking. Trying to get his dad in trouble?

      The adult children of people often rebel against their parent’s politics.

    • Todd20036

      Ok symbols aren’t hidden from view.

  • JWC

    what, claim innocence he dint know what it meant BULLSHIT

  • Ninja0980

    Kids do the damnest things don’t they?

    • andrew

      He’s 20.

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  • Tom G

    There is no place sacred! Jesus! Your dad is being sworn in! Stand normal, you fucking asshat!

  • Publius

    It’s not an OK or a white power gesture, but rather a circle game gesture. The difference — other than intent — between a white power gesture and this gesture is the middle, ring, and little fingers are pointed downward, whereas the white power gesture has those fingers pointed upward to spell the letter “W.”

    This kid isn’t a white supremacist. But he is an idiot for calling attention to himself this way and causing a stir.

    • shellback

      He seems a bit old to be playing a children’s game, especially at such an occasion. He is old enough to know better.

      • Publius

        Absolutely. Don’t get me wrong I’m not excusing his behavior. At 20 he absolutely should know better. I just don’t think this kid was a using a white supremacist gesture.

  • TheManicMechanic

    Make Nazi hand gestures, get punched.

  • Christopher
    • Sam

      I fully support Cap and this message. However, unless the “kid” is dyslexic, he’s most likely not a Nazi. He’s a Circle (game) jerk!

      Fingers pointed up = Nazi
      Fingers pointed down = not a Nazi

      • shellback

        Fingers pointed in any direction = too old to be playing a children’s game.

        • Sam


  • Mike

    Is New Jersey’s governor a nazi pretending to be a Democrat?

    • Tomcat

      Time will tell.

  • Tomcat

    He had just picked his nose and is trying to flick it off his finger.
    And strangely that would make him a better person than the real reason to make the gesture.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Sam_Handwich

      but gays are destroying the family!

  • shellback
  • Leo

    20 yr old white guy. The pepe crowd IS that demo on places like 4chan, 8chan and /r/theDonald. I’m sorry, but I don’t think this is innocent. At all. Hope his Dad er…talks…to him.

  • Snarky

    What happened to the good ol’ days, when the worst was just Paul Ryan asking some kid to stop dabbing while his dad was sworn in?

  • Ben in Oakland

    He might have just been moving his fingers.

    • Snarky

      Watch the video Joe posted. It’s deliberate.

      • Ben in Oakland

        looks like it. If I had pulled crap like that when I was a kid, my dad would have had plenty to say about it, and none of it nice.

  • pj

    that kid disrespected his father. he owes everyone an apology. if i was his father i would invite the press in to interview his son.

  • MBear

    WTF is wrong with NJ? Christie… amd now a white supremacist dem? Srsly…wtf are you breeding out there?

    • DaddyRay

      Well we don’t know if the father is – this was an act by his son.
      I am not going to make excuses for him. Even if he did this on a dare it needs to be called out.

      • MBear

        Apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree

        • DaddyRay

          Kids also tend to rebel against their parents

          • djcoastermark

            A lot of times, “kids” do stupid things thinking they are being funny and cute, not realizing the true implications of what they just did. I imagine there is going to be a lot of very heated scolding going on in that household tonight.

        • DaddyRay

          But I do get your point – we will have to keep watch

    • OdieDenCO

      hopefully daddy will call him out and make him apologize to the public for being an idiot.

      • MBear

        Clock is ticking

      • MBear

        Or more likely, “sorry if you were offended” LOL

      • kirby7771

        That would make me feel safer. Christ, a racist Democrat in Jersey is all we need now.

    • KnownDonorDad

      Honestly, it’s not representative of the state. SSM more than a year and a half before Obergefell, tending toward a live-and-let-live social progressivism in general. Even bluer states like Massachusetts have elected Republican governors.

  • AC

    at least the family now knows who the black sheep & idiot child is…will make so many future decisions so much easier

  • easygoingmister

    So what’s the safe sign? Like they were doing with safety pins at one point.

  • jpinphx

    This would be the only time that I would want Christie back, but only for the size of his belt to spank that kid.

  • boobert

    Maybe he was about to flick a boogie, or his thumb itched.

  • Gretchen

    At the absolute bare minimum, this man is an adult and far too old to be playing stupid teenager games at an occasion as solemn as his father’s gubernatorial swearing in ceremony. That’s the most immature behavior I can imagine on such an auspicious occasion.

    If it is a white power sign, I hope his father cuts off his financial support entirely.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      It’s definitely a white power sign. The way he displayed it, leaves no room for misconstruing its intent.

      • Sam

        The motion in Joe’s video shows that this is not likely a WP sign. Fingers were pointed down. WP signers will strain their wrists to keep the fingers pointed upward.

        • Jean-Marc in Canada

          Not true. The sign can be given “upside down” and has been done so many, many times.

          • Sam

            I have yet to see a picture of an upside down WP sign. Just like a middle finger pointed down doesn’t necessarily mean FU and two fingers pointed down doesn’t signify Peace.

            Not to say this guy isn’t a bit of an immature jerk. But I’d need better proof before branding him a Nazi.

          • Sam

            I did a search with the safety off and still could not find examples of an upside OK sign meaning WP.
            However, I did learn that an upside down “okay” sign is equivalent to giving the finger in Brazil.

          • Alexodia

            Check Malcolm in middle circle game. You will find at least one pop culture ref to it and what drove symbol to popularity

      • Jeffrey

        No, it absolutely isn’t

  • ian

    Makes me very sad, but on a happier note, the Millennials turning 18 this year skew progressive. Hopefully they’ll be motivated to cast their 1st vote in November..

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      True, but a chunk of them also skew snowflake, needy safe spacer’s and trigger babies. This part of the cohort concerns me.

  • Halou

    Even if it was the “OK” hand signal, the context does not match the message.

    Is there anything about a swearing in ceremony that makes it dubious, something that requires people at the scene to let people watching through the camera know that nothing untoward is going on? Is there the possibility that the New Jersey governor being sworn into office under duress and we all need to understand that it’s all “OK”?

    Or is this a case of one racist signalling other racists across the state and the nation at large that their man is now in, either the governor himself of his team of advisers, and the racist agenda gets to call itself a democratic mandate and move forward?

  • Andymac3

    This boy just looks like a dick, an awkward little prick, but he’s 20 and not 15 so he’ll soon realize that actions have consequences.

    • David Walker

      With luck.

    • andrew

      If he were my son the consequences would be swift and serious.

  • Barry William Teske

    They are laughing too.
    The adults in the room are letting them get away with it.
    Watch for the Zersetzung.
    It is next if not started already.

    Too late.
    It is already happening on JMG

  • Outlaw Woman

    I think he’s getting ready to flick a booger on to the judge.

  • Nonia Buzinness

    The governor can’t be asked to choose between the office and his family. He can’t effectively do his job in representing the people if he is harboring a white supremacist. He should resign immediately.

    • canoebum

      If that was not snark, I’m sorry, it’s just stupid. You don’t know why the kid made the gesture, you’re engaging is pure speculation. Let the man get on with his work. He’ll do a lot more for the people of New Jersey than his predecessor.

      • Nonia Buzinness

        Unfortunately, it’s always going to be speculation until the little shit owns up to it. For now, it’s patently obvious to most of us here that he is flashing white pride symbols, but not to you. Hmm…

        Fortunately, the NJ government has a contingency for this. Upon resignation, the Lieutenant Governor will immediately assume office. She seems pretty capable and has a solid resume. You don’t need to settle for anything, nor should you. It’s time to RAISE the bar.

        (Comparing anyone to Chris Christie is insulting and not a very accurate barometer of potential success. In other words, you could elect Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer as Governor of NJ and he would do a better job than Christie.)

        • canoebum

          Look, you and a lot of other commenters here are just blowing smoke. You have no idea why he made that gesture with his hand. I think the fact that you assume it is a white supremacist signal says more about you than it does the kid. If you are implying that my unwillingness to jump on this particular condemnation bandwagon is an indication that I harbor white supremacy feelings, I find that to be offensive. Look over my 9700-some comments and see if you find any support for that bit innuendo.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Inquiring minds want to know….

    I imagine Dad’s having a discussion with sonny boy as we speak.

  • William

    Maybe he’s really into Milton Bradley games. It can’t be Maison Blanche, they’re long gone.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    All I have to say is that I’m tired of 20 years & older men being held as responsible as babies while girls in junior high (especially non-white girls) told they’re responsible not only for their own behavior but that of the creepy adult men who prey on them.

  • j.martindale

    One of three things occurred here. The adult son was either so mistreated by his parents, who are terrible people, that he has to take this opportunity where his father has achieved what will probably amount to the greatest achievement of his life, that the son wants to detract from that moment and humiliate his father. Secondly, he was possibly just picking his nose and trying to get the snot off his fingers. Or thirdly, he is a piece of Nazi shit. Tell us what it is, guy.

    • Sam

      I’m going with “none of the above”. He’s an immature jerk playing the ultimate immature jerk’s “circle game” for his jerk buddies watching him on TV. Not all jerks are Nazi’s. Most are just every day run of the mill jerks.

    • M Jackson

      Well, I refuse to give him the benefit of the snot.

    • Barry William Teske

      He knows exactly what he is doing.

  • andrew

    If he were my son and he ruined my moment with that racist sign, i’d cut him off at the knees. Any of my money going to fund his college or anything other than bare minimum room and board would be ended and there would be rent and fees to pay for the room and board.

  • GanymedeRenard

    You’re a 20 year-old man; no need to hide your true feewings, Josh.

  • Tom Mears

    I think when these idiots do this thing it looks more like W & a lower case b or d depending on which hand they use. I prefer the interpretation that right hand is Wb for “Whiney little bitch”, and using the left, dW means “douchey Whiteboy”

  • Dayglo

    Dad needs to reign his son in. Is parenting still a thing?

  • Happy_Housewife

    Oh, who knows? And really, unless we are concerned about daddy taking orders from sonny-boy, who cares? We have bigger things to focus on than what some governor’s son is doing. He’s probably just another inherited wealth half-wit.

    • Barry William Teske


      • Happy_Housewife

        Thank you for that eloquent and intellectual reply. I’m truly floored and humbled by that.

        • Barry William Teske

          All in a days work of ‘Whack that troll’!

          • Barry William Teske

            I am sorry that was rude.
            With that being said:

            “Oh, who knows? And really, unless we are concerned about daddy taking orders from sonny-boy, who cares? We have bigger things to focus on than what some governor’s son is doing. He’s probably just another inherited wealth half-wit.”

            So let me…
            Thank you for that eloquent and intellectual reply.

          • Happy_Housewife

            Nope. Just a knee jerk reaction from a dumbshit when someone questions his catechism. Just what did I write that “troll” like? Do you want to be judged by your parents, or your children, if you have them? Do you think this is something to waste energy on when we’ve got a criminal cabal in the white house?

          • Happy_Housewife

            What did I say that was trolling?

  • The_Wretched

    Shit like this used to end political careers.

  • The governor’s son is extremely stupid for doing this, he could destroy his dad’s future cabinet level career ambitions. But I have been doing some research — the sign also is used as “the circle game” from the old show “malcolm in the middle” where people are gagged into being punched on colleges. It is not universally used as a White Power sign. The ADL is saying associations with the sign being a neo-Nazi symbol are a hoax (as of last April).
    Read more about this at SNOPES — not necessarily being a neo nazi sign —

    • More about this from the Anti Defamation League: “Mark Pitcavage, senior research fellow at the ADL’s Center on Extremism, told us that while the gesture has evolved since it was first conceived by anonymous Internet trolls in the first half of 2017, it has persisted. But it’s still hardly safe to assume a person using the gesture is intending to communicate hate. Instead it’s typically used by various right wing personalities, often while posing for photographs, to troll liberals and garner an outraged response”

    • scorpiomike

      And the circle game existed long before Malcolm in the Middle used it. We played when I was a kid in the 70s and 80s.

  • Gerry Fisher

    These days, I don’t really care if someone is a Nazi or trolling us with these gestures. Whether you’re a true believer or you’re just playing with fire as a way to get your jollies, you’re part of the problem.

  • Robin Bailey
  • Chris Craft

    Damnit I looked! LOL
    For those unaware this is a game children used to play back in the 90s. If you looked below the belt they get a free tap at you. (not sex) So sad people are freaking out again over nothing. Guess Jr. got everyone twice. Those that understood the joke and those that did not.

    • scorpiomike

      We played it in the 70s and 80s also.

  • timncguy

    The Washington Examiner needs an editor to produce some better sentence structure than this

    “during his father’s official swearing-in ceremony that’s been linked to white supremacists and nationalists.”

  • Benjamin Ruth

    I’m calling Hanlon’s Razor on this one. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. This 20 year old kid of a democrat from Jersey was probably just playing the circle game. GIFs and videos ending with that show up constantly from friends and acquaintances on my FB and social media feeds. And usually from some of the least racist, most SJW-ish people I know. Plus, the other pics of everyone giving that signal for the more dubious message are all holding it up perfectly in view. This looks hidden. More likely he was just trolling buddies watching at home.

  • GayOldLady

    This reminds me of the video I watched yesterday of a young NJ woman who was with her sorority sisters at the University of Alabama using the “N” word over and over again because she said she could in Alabama. It was revolting. But there was some justice. The national sorority kicked her out and the University of Alabama reprimanded her.

  • leastyebejudged

    Remove him from office and have a new election.

    If he can’t manage his own family he’s not qualified to run the state.

  • Matt

    Hope the internet trolls this stupid kid mercilessly.

  • Alexodia

    The stupid you looked cause you’re gay game has weirdly enough made a resurgence bit it has nothing to do with nazi sympathies. This game existed 15 years ago when I was still in school and is still popular as a joke within the armed forces.

  • JIM W

    I think this is becoming part of the American attitude of “I don’t give a S**t”.
    Seriously, does anyone under 50 care about anything?