CHILE: Pope Francis Apologizes For Pedophile Priests As Police Disperse Protesters With Tear Gas [VIDEO]

The Associated Press reports:

Pope Francis dove head first into the sex abuse scandal that has devastated the Catholic Church’s credibility in Chile, apologizing Tuesday for the “irreparable damage” to victims, but also acknowledging the “pain” of priests who have been held collectively responsible for the crimes of a few.

Francis’ words were delivered amid unprecedented opposition to his visit: Three more churches were torched overnight, including one burned to the ground in the southern Araucania region where Francis celebrates Mass on Wednesday. Police used tear gas and water cannons to break up an anti-pope protest outside Francis’ big open-air Mass in the capital, Santiago.

Speaking from the presidential La Moneda palace, Francis told Chilean President Michelle Bachelet, lawmakers, judges and other authorities that he felt “bound to express my pain and shame” that some of Chile’s clergy had sexually abused children in their care.

Francis did not refer by name to Chile’s most notorious pedophile priest, the Rev. Fernando Karadima, who in 2011 was barred from all pastoral duties and sanctioned by the Vatican to a lifetime of “penance and prayer” for sexually molesting minors. Nor did he refer to the fact that the emeritus archbishop of Santiago, a top papal adviser, has acknowledged he knew of complaints against Karadima but didn’t remove him from ministry.

  • NZArtist

    Need more of this whenever the pedo-cultists visit.

  • gaycuckhubby

    A public pushback against the church in Chili???
    Wow!
    He should have mass protests everywhere he shows his face

    • Robincho

      Doubly pointed since this is Frankie’s own continent…

    • Paula Key

      Let’s add Trump to these demonstrations.

  • HZ81

    Not enough, Pope. Not. Enough. You can’t even mention the offender sin your kid-rape cult by name?

    • zhera

      Well, that would take all day…

  • ceeenbee

    How many times can one person apologize for the criminal enterprise he runs? Instead of apologizing, maybe it’s time to start letting women into the church ministry, letting priests marry and stop with the irrational demonizing of LGBTQs.

    • Judas Peckerwood

      And maybe sell off all of that property and priceless art, and empty the Vatican’s vast bank accounts, to actually alleviate the suffering of the poor. Just a thought.

      • Stogiebear

        According to Pope Franny of the Forkéd Tongue, the damage to those children is “irreparable” so selling all that off would just be a futile waste of precious and finite resources.

        • McSwagg

          Oh, I’m sure he thinks “thoughts and prayers” will be of immense help. It’s all just hot air.

      • Paula Key

        Like the Queen of England’s properties, priceless art, etc – she cannot sell any – it belongs to the people. Same with the Vatican.

        • Joseph Miceli

          What people would that be? The citizens of the laughable Vatican state? The Catholic Church as a whole? I call bullshit.

    • zhera

      From what I understand, the celibacy among priests began because the church lost property to the priests families. As in, when a priest died his family kept the property they lived on. Then a new priest would be given a new property.

      Money. It always comes down to money.

      • McSwagg

        Very true. Rome and England carried out a Crusade against Ireland for this specific reason. The church got to keep church property and England began its centuries long occupation and exploitation of Ireland and its people.

        Basically, the Celtic Church was “insufficiently catholic” for Rome and England. A few decades later, protestant England enacted punitive laws against the Irish for being “too catholic” when the king wanted them to convert.

  • Boreal

    When will the Don of this crime syndicate punish those priests and stop dehumanizing love between consenting adults?

    • Paula Key

      Totally agree.

  • another_steve

    Take normal gay men, suppress their sexuality and torture them psychologically, and this is what you get.

    • Same, it seems, even with straight men, too. Human sexuality is not meant to be repressed, especially in the young. The biological imperative, when thwarted, nearly always will find dark and twisted ways then to manifest.

      • another_steve

        Well said, Becca.

        I suspect straight priest pedophilia is somewhat less common only because there are so many more readily-available venues for straight priests to find sexual release with women.

        Not so for gay male priests.

        • I happen to agree. For the last few centuries, if “I’m not interested in women” was the starting point for a boy entering puberty or a few years into his teens, the usual Catholic family decision was, “Fine, no marriage and family? You go to the Seminary and become a brother or priest.”

          The default fallback position, as it were.

          • another_steve

            You may know, Becca, that through my husband – a Catholic queer activist involved in organizations working for social justice within the Catholic Church – I’m tied into Catholic intelligentsia here in the states.

            Conventional wisdom among those who know – many who know firsthand – is that at least 50 percent of the Roman Catholic clergy worldwide consists of gay men.

            At least 50 percent.

            Some believe the percentage to be higher than that.

          • Sounds about right, honestly.

          • Going back to my childhood and tween years, I happen to remember when our St Catherine’s RCC in the early 70s got one of those “really cool hunky” new assistant pastor’s.

            I even developed a little bit of a platonic crush on him.

            Thinking back to that time, I realize now there’s no way he wasn’t gay. No. Way.

          • another_steve

            Lol. 😉

            LGBT Catholics reading here may be familiar with a national organization called “Dignity USA.” A leading organization working for LGBT social justice within the Catholic Church.

            With my Catholic husband, I once attended one of Dignity’s national conventions. Attended by many hundreds of good and wonderful people – gay, straight, Catholic, not-Catholic.

            I attended a seminar in which several gay (mostly closeted) Catholic priests were present. They spoke honestly and candidly of their experiences as priests.

            For me, it was a life-altering event.

            No amount of reading could have taught me more than I learned that afternoon.

          • Sporkfighter

            “LGBT Catholics reading here may be familiar with a national organization called “Dignity USA.” A leading organization working for LGBT social justice within the Catholic Church.”

            Do you think social justice within the Catholic church is possible as long as priests are required to be celibate? I don’t have statistics comparing abuse within the Catholic and Anglican churches, but we sure don’t hear as much about Anglican abuse.

          • another_steve

            Catholic churches across America are closing or cutting back on masses because of a shortage of priests. As older priests retire or die they’re not being replaced by younger priests in sufficient numbers to keep church operations humming. Young men aren’t entering seminaries today. And who can blame them.

            The way I see it, it’s a marketplace issue. The shortage of male priests will eventually lead to the ordination of women. Later down the road, the church’s homo-hate will fade away and openly gay men will be ordained. Eventually the rules on celibacy will be scrapped – for male and female priests alike.

            It’s called “adapt or die.”

          • Paula Key

            The RCC will move eventually towards ordaining married men; women are just ‘second class’ – supposedly ‘equal but with different roles. Few women buy that statement.

          • another_steve

            I don’t envy introspective women who are devout Catholics. The mental acrobatics required of them are …well …amazing.

            As you say, “equal but with different roles.” Ohmigod… So God views them unqualified to serve as priests merely because they don’t possess penises?

            Love to any woman reading here who is somehow able to navigate that and retain her faith.

          • Paula Key

            According to the RCC, it’s tradition (Jesus only picked men) What’s ironic is that 2000 years ago Jewish women were property, etc. i still have a few straight friends who are 100% gay-positive and just go to worship.

          • another_steve

            It is possible to separate dogmatic hate and nonsense from genuine faith. Some Roman Catholic practitioners are able to do that.

            This is a grace, however. Most people are sheep.

            Not in the least introspective.

          • Sporkfighter

            Take confused teens, lock them away with their natural sex drives, no way to grow as a normal man, gay or straight, and you have a secret society run largely by maladjusted men. Some of those maladjusted men are going to suffer in silence and some are going to cause suffering to others.

            Sex is a primal drive; as a social species, our sex drive has become part of our need to belong, our need for companionship. You just can’t switch that off for life with a few mumbled words in adolescence and expect it to work out.

          • Paula Key

            Totally agree. in larger cities – some gay priests find other gay priests.

          • Sporkfighter

            I’m not Catholic so maybe it’s none of my business, but I can’t see a couple of gay priests finding companionship, love, or even a bit of lust as anything but a bit of happiness added to a world that’ desperately needs it.

          • Robincho

            And those fallback positions have been refined and perfected over the centuries, the result of many altarcations…

        • 2guysnamedjoe

          Since the late 19th an early 20th Century, RCC schools, orphanages, etc. have made a point of keeping priests and male religious away from girls, for exactly that reason.

        • Phillip in L.A.

          Pedophilia is completely distinct from sexual orientation; in fact, >90% of male pedophiles self-identify as ‘heterosexual’

          • McSwagg

            Acts of pedophilia are usually crimes of opportunity. They don’t care whether their victim is male or female. Priests have historically had more access to boys as alter boys. Girls have been allowed to serve in that function for a couple of decades now. I wonder if that shows up in the sexual abuse statistics historical trends.

          • Paula Key

            young altar girls can get pregnant – no priest wants to be murdered!

          • McSwagg

            That wouldn’t stop them from “duggering” the girls.

          • another_steve

            I suspect the underlying dysfunction differs in degree and extent in the hyper-homophobic world of Roman Catholicism.

            Straight male priests are sexually repressed, yes. But not to the profound psychological depths that gay male priests are.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Clergy are definitely sui generis

          • Sporkfighter

            Why would you think that? In either case, the priest is denied the same basic human need.

          • Paula Key

            The power to control element is seen in both heterosexual and homosexual rape cases

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Definitely

          • Sporkfighter

            Greater than 90% of males self-identify as heretosexual, just what you’d expect if pedophilia were orthogonal to gay/straight identity.

          • Paula Key

            Agree. Rape of any kind is a power issue, too.

        • Joseph Miceli

          I’m calling you out on that. A pedophile is a pedophile. You can’t change a gay man into a pedophile any more than you could change a straight man into a pedophile or a gay man. You are borrowing the language of our oppressors, blaming pedophilia on gay men who have suffered “thwarted sexuality.” No Sir. I could be trapped on a deserted island with 5 pretty young boys for 10 years and my 53 year old pot bellied, pale and hairy self would never DREAM of harming those kids! The urge just isn’t there.
          Catholics and their magical thinking …..

          • Paula Key

            A stupid young lesbian once told me how lucky i was to be in an all girls high school. i think it must have been the shocked and sickened look on my face that greeted her first – and then my remark ‘These are just children – my lesbian interests are directed towards adult women.”

          • Joseph Miceli

            Damn Straight! I had an ex “friend” who thought it was funny when he said “if there’s no grass on the hill I’m having a picnic.” Problem was, he wasn’t joking. I dropped him and he went on with his pathetic predation far from me.

    • zhera

      Not just gay men. Many victims were girls. And pedophiles aren’t always picky about gender, they are opportunists.

      • another_steve

        Absolutely.

        The dynamic for gay male priests is somewhat different than that for straight male priests (see the discussion elsewhere in this subthread).

    • Paula Key

      add the straights since rape is a power and sexual thing.

  • Because nothing says “Jesus Loves You” more than a face full of teargas when protesting generations of theocratic institutionalized pedophile and sex abuser coverups.

  • Judas Peckerwood

    Pedant Alert: The protesters were “dispersed” by the tear gas, not “disbursed”. Pedant Alert concluded.

    • McSwagg

      True. Nothing will be “disbursed” by the vatican in response to [payment for] their crimes.

      • Boreal

        Now that’s not true. They will pay the travel and relocation costs for their own child predators to move to a new parish where they can re offend.

    • Robincho

      Disbursements are left to the Vatican, which will surely continue them as usual…

    • Joseph Miceli

      Don’t worry, I self identify as a Pedant-phile.

  • Andymac3

    It’s a start, but you need to clear out your pedophile priests world wide, and especially from the Vatican where they get to disappear to for the remainder of their lives, and how about stop fighting cases in the court, accept responsibility and pay some restitution to your victims. Sell your empty churches to pay for it, you broke it, now you fix it.

    • McSwagg

      Don’t forget the “cover up” bishops. They all need to spend time in prison for their part in all this.

      • CPT_Doom

        The real scandal has always been the obstruction of justice, aiding & abetting of rape, witness intimidation, payments of hush money and fraud committed by the church’s leadership. Until and unless Jorge (his actual name) wants to acknowledge and atone for that, I don’t give a rat’s behind what he says.

        • McSwagg

          Ditto!!!

        • Veylon

          Hear, hear. Every organization has members who commit evil acts but only some organizations systematically hide and protect them.

    • ChrisMorley

      From the Vatican: Cardinal George Pell, Pope Francis’s Treasurer, appears in court on March 5th in Melbourne, Australia, for a four-week committal hearing into multiple child abuse and abuse cover-up charges from his time as a bishop. The Pope has given him time off but is backing him.
      https://www.thelocal.it/20171006/up-to-50-witnesses-for-cardinal-pell-sex-abuse-hearing

      • Robincho

        I do not like you, Cardinal Pell.
        The reason why, I’ll surely tell.
        And this I know, and know full well:
        I do not like you, Cardinal Pell…

    • IDavid

      People need to keep suing, break the bank then shut the religion down.

  • Lazycrockett
    • another_steve

      There is nothing cuter in the universe than a puppy. Nothing.

      I’m an inveterate cat lover. I’ve been a caregiver for cats for over 50 years.

      That said, there is nothing cuter in the universe than a puppy.

  • Stogiebear

    Nothing quite says remorse for running a kiddie-fucking operation like using chemical weapons against the people you’re apologizing to.

  • Tomcat

    Francis, how about crucifying them like you did heretics.

  • Ninja0980

    Sorry doesn’t undo the fact your church allowed thousands of children to be molested, thus leaving them with scars they will have to deal with the rest of their lives while covering up for the perps all for the sake of power.

  • BlindBill

    IT IS NOT JUST THE “priests who have been held collectively responsible” …. it is the entire church – including the pope and the congregants who still tithe an organization that has a history steeped in child abuse – they are ALL responsible.

  • MBear

    Doesnt…fix…the…problem.
    #FakeApology

    Fk the popes mother

    • NZArtist

      … with a donkey dick.

      • NZArtist

        If you can find a donkey with low enough standards.

  • Sam_Handwich

    that went well!

  • BourbonGal

    The church deserves every bit of shit they get over this. Going forward no catholic can claim they didn’t know when it happens to their kids.

  • Alpha 50327

    Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

  • liondon#iamnotatraitor

    So sorry your children are now fucked up and will no longer be able to have a normal life… my bad…. now how about that tithe?

  • TuuxKabin

    Franny. You bitch.

  • liondon#iamnotatraitor
  • LarryChemEngr

    The popes words are hypocritical, in my opinion. The Catholic Church can’t “apologize” and show remorse on one hand, and then wrangle out of paying legal judgements on the other hand.

    Remember, the Catholic Church is the wealthiest entity in the world. Its land holdings alone are estimated to be larger than France. It is worth trillions of dollars. Yet, they can legally pretend to be broke to avoid paying up. This happened in a diocese in the midwest, which transferred all of its assets to “the cemetary fund” so that the diocese looked broke on paper, so no payments to the victims. Apparently, all they care about is their bank account.

    Remember, these priests were raping children while acting in their professional pastoral jobs. And the Church found out about it, covered it all up, and vilified the victims if they complained. Can you imagine any company trying to get away with this?

    And the priests were generally not thrown in jail. Many were “sentenced” to prayer and penitence. Cardinal Law, the grand architect of covering it all up in Boston, spent his last years in a Renaissance Palace in Rome. He should have been in prison.

    So, the pope can piss off with his disgusting hypocrisy. Please post the photos of the burned out churches.

    • McSwagg

      I was raised as a catholic. I have long since left the racket, but we were taught that in addition to remorse and contrition, you had to correct or pay restitution for your wrong doings to make things right or you weren’t forgiven. The catholic church hasn’t taken that last step of corrective restitution, so they cannot be forgiven. The pope knows this and thinks, as usual, that the rules that apply to “the people” don’t apply equally to the clergy.

      • Paula Key

        I don’t know if this would be effective, but each priest should sign a contract that waivers the ‘statutes of limitations’.

        • McSwagg

          Great idea, but I don’t know if it would hold up in court.

    • Paula Key

      Much of their wealth (paintings, golden this and golden that) cannot be sold off like the Queen of England’s similar items.

      • LarryChemEngr

        why not?

        • Veylon

          Because they’re owned by the Vatican City, a sovereign country legally distinct from the Catholic Church. Only it’s ruler, the King of Rome, could authorize their sale.

          The fact that the King of Rome and the Pope are always the same person is entirely a coincidence.

    • Doug J.

      The cemetery fund scam was the work of Timmy Dolan, who for his reward got promoted to be Archbishop of New York.

  • zhera

    “…the crimes of a few”?

    Fuck you, poop! How many priests enabled these crimes? How many priests are STILL enabling these crimes?
    How many molesting creeps will you hide in your predator sanctuary?

    FUCK YOU!

    • Got that right. First there’s the pedophile sexual predator priest.

      Then there may be a parish pastor and/or church elders aware of said pedophile’s activities and work to shut up the victim and family, often via shaming, threats of public humiliation, and occasionally cash settlements.

      Then there’s the diocese, where the Bishop or Archbishop and their staff are aware of the pedophile priest, and take steps to cover it up. They may transfer their “problem” to another parish where he’s not known, and he can start all over again with parishioners who don’t know to fear and avoid him, or not to leave their children alone with him. Or if he’s about to break into the news in a big way, they’ll send him to a different diocese, possibly with or without a pointless stop at a “reparation therapy” monastery, like the one that was eventually shut down in New Mexico.

      Then there’s the Vatican hierarchy which, when they learn of a priest whose crimes threaten to become public and bring down an entire diocese, will transfer said priest somewhere remote and “off the grid.” Like assigning him as a missionary to a 3rd world country with limited means of contacting the outside world. Especially countries where its citizens have been trained not to question religious authorities, no matter what.

      For every single sexually predatory priest, there are dozens of enablers, either implicitly or explicitly complicit in the crimes, as well as committing the additional crime of failing to intervene to stop them from continuing.

      • McSwagg

        Don’t forget that all this goes straight to the top as cardinal Ratzinger was the one who orchestrated all the cover up policies under JPII. The entire racket is guilty from the lowest to the highest.

        • That’s what I was aiming for in paragraph 3.

      • Paula Key

        Then, there are priests who are celibate in every way and are thrown under the bus…what is the percentage? I don’t know, but even though I am a recovering Catholic, I want to be fair and not generalise. I say, jail the pedophile priest and all those in compliance. No one on this planet should escape rape or any kind of sexual abuse.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Organized Religion: The Original Fake News!!

    • McSwagg

      The Fake News Wholly Babble is the real name of their scribblings.

      • Robincho

        Wholly Shit!…

  • Boreal
    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      … or a prickly cactus.

      • zhera

        …sideways.

  • Karl Dubhe 2

    What did the priests used to teach at Catholic School? No forgiveness without true repentance.

    You’re not truly repenting ‘padre’. You’re just sorry that you’re being called out about it.

  • Boreal

    Nothing says ‘I am remorseful’ like moving cash to untouchable cemetery maintenance funds to avoid accountability and avoid paying settlements to victims of child rape.

  • Tomcat

    Only ONE more Pope. Then Pffloooey.

  • ByronK

    The “pain” felt by those held collectively responsible for the actions of a few lies squarely on the shoulders of the church leaders and each and every one of them from top to bottom who turned a blind eye or tried to bury and ignore the crimes that were being committed. They are complicit in decades of abuse of authority and trust that robbed untold thousands of children of their childhood, left horribly damaged adults to flail their way through life leaving a path of guilt and rage fuelled destruction, and those who chose to end the suffering by their own hand. No apology will ever erase from the church or earn it forgiveness. These are the time I wish there was a hell for the whole fucking lot to be shovelled into like garbage.

    • McSwagg

      There is only one thing wrong with your post. This has been going on for two millennium, not just a few decades. Otherwise, perfect analysis.

      • Friday

        More like sixteen or seventeen centuries. They like to not talk about a certain few hundred years.

    • Paula Key

      There is an ingrained and helpless thought process that looks ‘at the lesser of two evils’ and it is sick and definitely ungodly and it is…..priests may be pedophiles or adulterers, but, and here is the sickness – they have the ‘power to forgive sins/, baptise, marry, etc – so take out a evil priest from an isolated parish and it is robbed of the power of a priest,. It’s sick, twisted and ungodly, but it is a thought process and can never, never be condoned!!!!

  • Ben in Oakland

    Let us not forget that St. Peter Damien complained about priestly abuse and coverups 1000 years ago. Let us not forget that Karen Liebreich wrote in “Fallen Order” About exactly the same thing going on 400 years ago. Let us not forget the Magdalen Laundries in Ireland, and the coverups of priestly abuse in Ireland..

    • ByronK

      And the Residential Schools in Canada and the Duplessis Orphans in Quebec…

      • Ben in Oakland

        Can’t keep track of all of them. Thanks.

      • prixator

        The RC gets to share the blame for the Residential Schools. From The Canadian Encyclopedia:

        At its height around 1930, the residential school system totalled 80 institutions. The Roman Catholic Church operated three-fifths, the Anglican Church one-quarter and the United and Presbyterian Churches the remainder. (Before 1925, the Methodist Church also operated residential schools; however, when the United Church of Canada was formed in 1925, most of the Presbyterian and all the Methodist schools became United Church schools.)

    • Karl Dubhe 2

      First book in recognizable English also mentions them.

      Canterbury Tales.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • Sam_Handwich

    cripes, it’s a cliff hanger in the senate right now with the FISA re authorization

    • Sam_Handwich

      it’s 58-38

      They need 60 for cloture. McCaskill, Kennedy and McCain (and one other senator, not sure who) have not voted yet. And McCain won’t be voting. Vote’s been open for an hour now

      • LeeCMH

        So I wonder exactly what McCaskill and Kennedy are talking about?

        • Sam_Handwich

          they both finally showed up and voted Aye, putting it over the top

          McCaskill is worried about her re-election

          Kennedy was being courted by the Rand Paul types. I’m surprised he folded

  • GayOldLady

    And let’s not forget that the church that hides the abuse of children forces women to have children by making the use of birth control a “mortal sin” and threatening indoctrinated women with hell if they disobey. The RCC, like most of organized religion, is an organization of grifters and charlatans.

    • McSwagg

      True, but then they flush those babies down the toilet. Read about the Magdalene Laundries in Ireland.

      • Paula Key

        Joni Mitchell and The Chieftains collaborated on a record called, “The Magdalene Laundries” – It is worth listening to. One line goes something like this, “Bridget got her belly from the parish priest.”

      • Hue-Man

        NYT today:A Blot on Ireland’s Past, Facing Demolition

        In the 1990s, for example, builders redeveloping part of the former High Park laundry in north Dublin discovered the bodies of 155 women in a mass grave on the site. A third of them had been buried without death certificates. A few are still unknown.

        Catherine Corless, a dogged local historian, made global headlines in 2014 when she published evidence that 796 infants had died between 1925 and 1961 at a mother and baby home in Tuam, in County Galway. Remains of some were found in what appeared to be a septic tank.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/15/world/europe/magdalene-laundries-ireland.html

    • Paula Key

      Previous polling has reported that 82 percent of American Catholics say birth control is “morally acceptable,” and 98 percent of U.S. Catholic women of childbearing age have used contraception at some point while they’ve been sexually active.Aug 4, 2015

      • GayOldLady

        That’s why the RCC still bans artificial contraception and only approves a method devised by men notoriously called, rhythm. The rhythm method is prediction of ovulation cycles and when to avoid sex. It has the same reliability as tap dancing in a lions cage while he’s sleeping and hoping he won’t notice.

      • GayOldLady

        The only thing the RCC church has changed for women over the past 70 years is women no longer have to cover their heads in church and they can be eucharistic ministers and girls serve on the altar. Birth control is still considered a “mortal sin”. We’ve come a long way baby.

        • Paula Key

          I agree.

  • shellback

    Yo, Franny, this might be a good time to confess that your entire, stinking organization is a scam to bilk money from the brainwashed and terminally stupid.

    • Paula Key

      Would you like wine with your sweeping generalisation. My mother, particularly, in her old years found peace and comfort in her religion, particularly when she was terminally ill.

      • MaryJOGrady

        My pious mother, on the other hand, after a lifetime of devout adherence to the Roman Catholic faith, became demented toward the end of her life and hallucinated that the devil was coming to carry her off to hell. A stroke finally stopped her from verbalizing any horrors she was experiencing. If I had no other reason to be an atheist, her suffering thanks to her faith would suffice.

        • Phillip in L.A.
          • MaryJOGrady

            Thank you. I absolutely love “Blazing Saddles”.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            It was the first R-rated movie I saw, when I was about 11. I didn’t have to sneak in to a theatre, though! A very good friend showed it at his 12th (?) birthday party–yes, they had a 35mm projector, and we had to change the reels.

          • MaryJOGrady

            Lucky you, to see it so young!

          • Phillip in L.A.

            It was either the year the film came out, or the year after, so it had to be ’74 or ’75–it seems a bit shocking now that I would have seen that so young!

        • Paula Key

          Sad to watch a mother suffering. Dementia can wreck havoc in the mind.

          • MaryJOGrady

            It was very sad, Unfortunately she also became emotionally abusive to my two sisters who were on the scene much more than I, who lived hundreds of miles away. After a lifetime of piety, she left plenty of material for the Devil’s Advocate, in case anyone is ever inclined to advance her case for canonization.

          • Paula Key

            My mother’s dementia led to her being convinced i was being raped by a neighbour, yet her RC faith was strong to the end – I should correct that to her faith in God. As an Irish woman she defied the RCC on many issues, but hung in there.

      • LarryChemEngr

        irrelevant, Paula. Its all based on a silly lie of a Supreme Deity. She was programed to be soothed by the silly lies of her religion. Doesn’t make it particularly significant.

        • Paula Key

          I disagree,. my mother was never ‘programmed’ she lived and loved her God as she found him/here in the Catholic Church.. I find your words
          condescending. I believe in a Supreme Deity – please prove me wrong. I certainly would never consider myself programmed. i left the RC church 30 years ago. I certainly was not ‘programmed’ to be a lesbian – but many in society throw that at us. Somethings can’t be proven, but let’s not insult one another on this forum – disagree, but spare the insults.

      • Rob NYNY

        And my father died in terror because he had never had the cash that the Roman Catholic Church demanded for an annulment of his first marriage. For $50,000 , he could have gone to heaven instead of hell.

        • Paula Key

          That is just plain evil.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Not a day goes by that Drumpf fails to sink to new lows.
      Despicable bastard!!

    • Michael R

      I think they gave this administration what it wanted .

      • BobSF_94117

        Only the first half. Now they’ll pack the panel with oil industry execs.

  • Tulle Christensen

    “barred from all pastoral duties and sanctioned by the Vatican to a lifetime of “penance and prayer” for sexually molesting minors”

    Well that is the problem right there, that priest should be in prison in Chile not trying to pray the pedophile away. I find it hard to believe the pope cannot see that

    • Paula Key

      Statues of Limitations ran out for him – I think that should be changed world wide for hideous crimes such as rape, murder, etc.

  • Robincho

    Isn’t “La Moneda” Spanish for “The Moneyed”?…

    • Natty Enquirer

      Indeed. The palace was once a mint.

    • Boreal

      Living La Vida moneda.

  • MT YVR

    “..but also acknowledging the “pain” of priests who have been held collectively responsible for the crimes of a few.”

    Um. Like, say, anyone they’ve ever persecuted? “This ONE woman did a thing so ALL women…”

    “This one person of colour did this thing so ALL…”

    “This ONE gay person…”

    Jesus wept does he live in animatronic wing of the Vatican where he doesn’t know he’s slipped on through to the other side of the uncanny valley of hypocrisy?

    • MaryJOGrady

      The Roman Catholic clergy is a club which protects its own.
      There were more than a few priests and nuns committing crimes against children and other vulnerable people. People all over the world know that now.
      I have seen Ireland throw off the tyranny of the Roman Catholic hierarchy, something I never expected to see within my lifetime, because of the people’s discovery of the prevalence of physical, emotional, and sexual abuse of helpless children committed to the Church’s care.

      The State of New Mexico, where I live now, has a Roman Catholic hierarchy which is refreshingly silent on political matters. That is because the Church has lost all credibility on moral matters, because it turned sexually abusive, criminal priests loose on a pious populace for decades, counting on their docility. The Diocese of Santa Fe, New Mexico, was the first in the US to declare bankruptcy, in December of 1993, because of the claims of the victims of the predator clergy which had to be paid.

  • Paula

    This is absolutely horrible! They are burning churches and I don’t have any hot dogs or marshmallows.

    • Natty Enquirer
    • Pip

      It’s probably for the better. Those older churches are full of lead paint and asbestos.

    • NZArtist
    • m_lp_ql_m

      Well, there’s always the Krispy Kristians inside!

    • Paula Key

      I’m an ex Catholic – haven’t entered a church is 30 years. However, in keeping with being discriminated for being a lesbian, I have learned tolerance, but not before justice. Pedophile priests go to jail, Vatican is held accountable, but a church is often a source of inspiration and consolation for many people. Protest – yes; burn churches – no. Many of our elderly parents found hope and comfort in religion, particularly towards the ends of their lives. Spirituality is different from dogmatic religion.

      • Friday

        (Chances are the church-burners were just being Protestants, or some other interest that would like to destabilize the hemisphere, not actually standing for victims.)

  • JWC

    The catholic church will never bury this

  • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

    “…also acknowledging the “pain” of priests who have been held collectively responsible for the crimes of a few.”

    What the fuck?

    Shall we hold a pray vigil for murderers and the pain they feel for being held responsible?

    • Tomcat

      I believe that means the innocent priest are also judges as bad priest through association. Same as blaming everyone in a city for a killer running rampant and doing serial killings. Not everyone is bad just as not everyone is good.

      • Jerry Kott

        as a Gay Senior, I am fully aware when the brush is too broad when it comes to demonize me.

      • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

        Yup, you’re right, I rushed to comment because it just irritated me. But I imagine many of the ‘good’ priests were aware of what was going on. Silence is not an acceptable response to child rape.

        • NZArtist

          There are no ‘innocent priests’. They empower and enable the organization that preys on young people.
          They recruit young people (because, you know, priests cant procreate) into their unnatural and unhealthy lifestyle. They get special rights from the government. They infiltrate your schools. They demand that you dont just tolerate their unnatural lives, but that you should actually accept them. You dont find their kind in the animal kingdom. Even dogs dont do the unnatural behaviour of priests. They’re constantly trying to push their agenda forward – to shove their unnatural behaviour down our throats.
          They have clubs where they meet once a week to perform strange perverted rituals involving flesh and blood.
          Society should not tolerate this aberrant behaviour – instead it should condemn it and outlaw it. Keep it away from decent people.

          • MaryJOGrady

            There was a scene in “Three Billboards in Hibbing, Missouri,” in which the heroine, played by the great Frances McDormand, comes into her house to find a parish priest who had been admitted and sat down by her teenaged son. The priest was there to urge her to ease up on the local sheriff, whom she had rented billboards to denounce because the case of her raped, murdered daughter was not getting the attention of local law enforcement which it deserved.
            McDormand’s character points out that the priest, even if not a sexual abuser himself, belonged to an organization, a criminal gang in effect, which carried on the sexual abuse of minors and protected the perpetrators. She is so eloquent in declaring that a member of such an organization had no right whatsoever to come into her house and offer her advice on morals of any kind.
            It was so eloquent. I felt like standing up and cheering in the darkened movie theatre.

      • Paula Key

        I have an unproven theory, and it is that straights who leave the RCC church have less anger against it than gays and lesbians. The RCC has insulted, and sometimes, left gays and lesbians hurt and angry with their ignorant pronouncement that we are ‘unnatural’ and disordered, etc. etc and these are kinder words that what has been used from pulpits, in church bulletins, and spoken in Catholic classrooms. i lost my faith in the RCC, but I have a faith in a Supreme Being. I don’t belong to any church. i have absolute respect for agnostics and atheists.

  • GanymedeRenard

    So, more thoughts and prayers and no justice, your popishness? Glad to see you’re met with huge protests in a country that was once a Catholic bastion!

  • Sporkfighter

    Pope Francis dove head first into the sex abuse scandal that has devastated the Catholic Church’s credibility in Chile, apologizing Tuesday for the “irreparable damage” to victims, but also acknowledging the “pain” of priests who have been held collectively responsible for the crimes of a few.

    Every priest who had cause to believe another priest abused a child but did not call the police is directly responsible for the continuing crimes of a few.

    • m_lp_ql_m

      “But… but… what about the good cops?!” s

    • Friday

      “Very fine people on both sides,” in other words.

  • andrew

    The only good thing that comes out of the Catholic priests sexual abuse of minors and the Bishops cover ups, is that it helps to undermine the hold that religious mythology still has on so many people in this the 21st century.

    • The_Wretched

      It’s a good thing but a very high price.

    • Paula Key

      Why would you think that I, for example, with post -graduate degrees, would be interested in clinging to a ‘myth.’? i differentiate religion and spiritual living.

  • Henry Auvil

    Too little too late Papito.

  • IDavid

    Worldwide: No more donations to the Catholic Church Pedophile Advocacy Fund. All priests and clergy are complicit for staying quiet. Sue until they can no longer breath.

  • m_lp_ql_m

    Wasn’t this the same guy that made everyone think that same-sex relationships were now “OK” in the church?

    • The_Wretched

      They aren’t. He was doing theological slight of hand.

  • PlutoAnimus

    No matter where you go, cops eagerly protest rapist priests.

  • david fairfield

    Apology not accepted.

  • Andymac3
  • Oneofthebobs

    If you don’t want to be held “collectively responsible”, don’t ignore the evil that you witness.

  • acde

    Why is he not demanding that protestors NOT be arrested or in any way stopped from speaking if he is truly apologetic/sorry? The hypocritical conundrum stays like the elephant [turd] on the papal coffee table

  • Paula Key

    The statute of limitations had passed for him to be tried criminally, though, and Karadima’s only punishment was being sent by the church to a convent to spend the rest of his life in prayer, angering many Chileans.

  • RainbowPhoenix

    The fact that you and the rest of the church administration were protecting the pedophiles might have something to do with priests being held responsible as a collective, dear.

  • Phillip in L.A.

    Vorpal–I hope you are not now furiously trying to wash tear-gas residue from your glossy black face and whiskers

    [Edited: You are supposed to put the Vaseline on your *face* and other exposed body parts, to prevent tear-gas burns, iirc]

    • Silver Badger

      I did not know that. Thank you. This information may come in handy one day.

      • Phillip in L.A.

        I would check that info–it is my recollection from reading through a friend’s passed-around copy of The Anarchist’s Cookbook during a single period in Junior High

        • David Gervais

          As I recall from fifty years ago, the same advice was in Abbie Hoffman’s Steal This Book.

    • vorpal

      I just cower on the diplomatic compound where it’s safe and there is a perhaps not entirely surprisingly large jar of vaseline nearby.

      • Phillip in L.A.

        Hurrah for cowering, a surprisingly large jar of Vaseline, and no tear-gas! 😎

        • vorpal

          So how are you doing? You’ve been on my mind a lot lately.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Really? I’m doing OK–at least I’m here!(*) How have you been? How/Why have I been on your mind?

            (*) *Not* a reference to you-know-who. For which I apologize. But having said that (and meaning it), I think you knew very well exactly what I was saying. I was *not* making fun of your friend, but of your slightly over-the-top way of describing–so graphically–his demise. Not that I’m squeamish; that is not the point. It seemed you were being intentionally provocative, and then punishing me for becoming provoked. Anyway, I do apologize, again, and, publicly.

            https://youtu.be/wDe60CbIagg

      • Paula Key

        Go for it!

  • Ben in Oakland

    According to Frank, some priests were actually insulted on the street! Talk about pain and suffering!

    • Sporkfighter

      Call the whambulance.

  • stanhope

    This guy, as most popes have been, is an asshole. Hell has a special section called Playa Popes where residents roast marshmallows in the shape of little boy penises.

  • Hue-Man

    O/T Is anyone else bothered by this?

    The US maintains some 2,000 troops in Syria and has said its forces will continue to back local anti-ISIS forces there until the extremist group is defeated and the area is stabilized.
    The Syrian statement comes after the US-led coalition fighting ISIS
    announced plans Sunday to boost border security in the region, a move
    that Syrian and Turkish officials have said would destabilize the
    region.

    http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/15/politics/syria-army-threat-us-troops/index.html

    • Friday

      Hrm, actually, I don’t think much of ‘Syrian and Turkish Officials’ just lately. So, I’m just wondering what those troops are doing and why aren’t the Republicans *bragging* about it?

  • Snownova

    NO you holy douchebag, less apologizing and more ACTION! Stop shuffling around pedophiles and protecting that filth! No more internal “action” and more reporting to the proper authorities! No Catholic Sharia law, more common law!

  • Ore Carmi

    Jesus Christ!

  • David Gervais

    So, some priests are in mental pain because they are complicit by inaction. Our THOUGHTS and PRAYERS are all that you deserve from us, which is more than you and your co-conspirators did for all those children for all those years.

  • Joseph Miceli

    Good for them. Throw off the yoke of the evil Catholics and their death cult. Learn to live in the day and to take care of the world and your children, not for some nebulous afterlife!

    • Friday

      Downside of this is that the Pentecostal Fundies are mostly the ones capitalizing on the power vacuum down there.

      • Joseph Miceli

        Bleh. Well, that’s certainly not progress!

  • Friday

    Err, the ‘collective guilt’ isn’t just somehow randomly ‘by association,’ …it’s *organizational.* Especially among those who still try to claim the answer is to support despotic homophobia as a mechanism of scapegoating, while of course ignoring that nearly half the victims are *female* and *completely* ignoring all the abuse they can’t call ‘sexual sin.’

  • TheSeer

    Will the Pope apologize for 2000 years of the Church teaching horrible lies about gay people?

  • Charles Nelson

    What a hypocrite! Denouncing his pedophile priests while at the same time arranging to protect and removing from prosecution those same priests.

  • Pete Wascher

    sounds like trump defending the right wingers in charlottesville. not appropriate to “walk the fence” here. come down strong on the side of right. not the pope’s strongest moment. a disappointment and missed opportunity. 🙁