Paul Ryan Flaccidly Objects To Trump’s Racism

Talking Points Memo reports:

Nearly a day after reports surfaced that President Donald Trump referred to African countries as “shithole countries” in a White House meeting with lawmakers, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) called the remarks “unfortunate” and “unhelpful.”

“So, first thing that came to my mind, was, very unfortunate, unhelpful,” Ryan said when asked about Trump’s reported comments on Friday afternoon at an event in Milwaukee.

Since the Washington Post and the New York Times first reported Trump’s derogatory comments on Thursday afternoon, few Republicans have offered criticism of the President, including the Republican lawmakers who were present at the meeting.

  • PickyPecker

    Well, at least he isn’t using McTurtles phrase of ‘concerning.’

  • Lumpy Gaga

    “So, first thing that came to my mind, was, very unfortunate,
    unhelpful,” Ryan said when asked about Trump’s reported comments on
    Friday afternoon at an event in Milwaukee.

    Come on, now. The first thing? The VERY first thing?

    • coram nobis

      From the TPM report:

      Ryan, who was not at the meeting where the remarks were allegedly made, said that Trump’s alleged comments made him think of his own family, who immigrated from Ireland when the Irish were not treated very well in the U.S. He said that immigration is “what makes this country so exceptional and unique in the first place” and said it’s “important that we celebrate that.”

      • David Walker

        Important? Yeah. Celebrate? OK, but quietly.

        • coram nobis

          Donald would have called the Irish famine refugees the same kind of names, and Ireland in 1849 was a kind of shanty-hole. I doubt if Ryan’s family were the lace-curtain variety when they got here.

        • cleos_mom

          We have a holiday in March to celebrate that particular background — from daybreak until the bars close. Apparently that’s not enough for Eddie Munster. And you’re hearing this from someone that ancestry-dot-com discovered is 39% Irish overall.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        In honor of Ryan’s immigrant experience, we will now use the word shite-hole.

        • David Walker

          Feckin’ A.

    • cleos_mom

      Actually, he meandered after that into a sentimental monologue about his family’s ethnic background.

      In other words — IT’S ALL ABOUT MEEEEEEEEEE! The NALTs can identify with that at least.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        Yeah – had to rely on Joy (or Velshi??) to report the whole bloody mess on MSNBC. The more you hear of it, the worse it is.

  • coram nobis

    “Flaccid.” Oo, don’t use that word around Donald.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Weak pathetic & sad !

    Soon to be unemployed !

    • Lazycrockett

      @ironstache!!!

    • Todd20036

      No. He has a potential career lined up: cleaning already clean pots and pans in a homeless kitchen

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
    • Mr. M

      I respect her parents but not her homophobic comments.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        oh please

        • Mr. M

          So you excuse homophobia when it’s on the left but not the right?

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            As I recall, it was a very large juicy burger of nothing.

          • Mr. M

            As I recall, she was trying to out closeted gay men.

          • Michael R
          • Mr. M

            We all know if Sean Hannity referred to men he believed to be closeted as “Miss” and “It’s Okay Your Not Into Ladies!” trying to shame them, he would be raked over the coals. And that would be the right thing to do. Reid doesn’t get a pass because she’s liberal. There are homophobic liberals, and a forced apology doesn’t make me forget. What she did was dangerous and homophobic.

          • Michael R
          • Mr. M

            I’m more liberal than you are. Good to know you give homophobes a pass.

          • Michael R

            not buying it , blocked

          • Mr. M

            Good. I’m glad to be blocked by gay white men that excuse homophobia.

          • The_Wretched

            Are not. So nawyh.

          • Gerry Fisher

            Ahhhh, now I remember. As I recall, there are a good number of people in the LGBT community who feel strongly that it’s OK to out a closeted gay man if that gay man is in a position of power and is working to undermine our freedom.

          • Mr. M

            Okay. And I think that outing a closeted man is dangerous. Don’t think I should be shoo’d away for saying that and calling Joy Reid out on her homophobia.

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            You already said goodbye.
            Have you no honor ?

          • Mr. M

            I said goodbye to one commenter. I do have honor, and honor for all the closeted gay men that are made a joke of by homophobes and that are thrown under the bus by other gays like yourself.

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            I’m not sure you know what honor means.

          • kareemachan

            Read Reid’s full apology below:

            This note is my apology to all who are
            disappointed by the content of blogs I wrote a decade ago, for which my
            choice of words and tone have legitimately been criticized.

            As a writer, I pride myself on a facility with
            language — an economy of words or at least some wisdom in the selection.
            However, that clearly has not always been the case.

            In 2007 I was a morning talk radio host and blogger,
            writing about Florida politics (a blog I maintained until 2011.) Among
            the frequent subjects of my posts was then-governor Charlie Crist, at
            the time a conservative Republican, whose positions on issues like gay
            marriage and adoption by same-sex couples in Florida shared headlines
            with widely rumored reports that he was hiding his sexual orientation.
            Those reports were the subject of lots of scrutiny: by LGBTQ bloggers,
            writers and journalists, conservative blogs, a controversial documentary
            film called Outrage, and even by the comedic writers at South Park.
            But it was my own attempt at challenging Crist on my blog that has now
            raised the issue of not just my choice of words, but what was and is in
            my heart.

            Let me be clear: at no time have I intentionally
            sought to demean or harm the LGBT community, which includes people whom I
            deeply love. My goal, in my ham-handed way, was to call out potential
            hypocrisy.

            Nonetheless, as someone who is not a member of the
            LGBT community, I regret the way I addressed the complex issue of the
            closet and speculation on a person’s sexual orientation with a mocking
            tone and sarcasm. It was insensitive, tone deaf and dumb. There is no
            excusing it — not based on the taste-skewing mores of talk radio or the
            then-blogosphere, and not based on my intentions.

            In addition to friends and coworkers and viewers, I
            deeply apologize to Congressman Crist, who was the target of my
            thoughtlessness. My critique of anti-LGBT positions he once held but has
            since abandoned was legitimate in my view. My means of critiquing were
            not.

            In the years since I went from blogger to opinion
            journalist, I have also learned, through brilliant friends and allies in
            the LGBT activist community, how to better frame my critiques of those
            who challenge people’s right to love who they want, marry them, and walk
            in the world as fully free people.

            Re-reading those old blog posts, I am disappointed in
            myself. I apologize to those who also are disappointed in me. Life can
            be humbling. It often is. But I hope that you know where my heart is,
            and that I will always strive to use my words for good. I know better
            and I will do better.

            —Joy Reid

            More substance than the usual repug non-apology….

          • David Walker

            I will accept an apology when sincerely given. Joy apologized. It’s probably impossible for a mister perfect to even imagine making a mistake, but it happens to us mere mortals.

          • Mr. M

            I forgive but don’t forget.

          • RaygunsGoZap

            You don’t sound forgiving.

          • The_Wretched

            He said with a sneer as he blew the smoke away from his oversized weapon.

            It was a good day for him. Well, inside his head at least. But that’s to be expected from a drive-by.

          • Mr. M

            Ok?

          • Gerry Fisher

            “He seems nice.”

          • agcons

            If that were true you would not have made your first remark in this conversation.

          • The_Wretched

            We don’t believe your predicates. try harder.

          • Mr. M

            And your “predicates” are political affiliation.

          • The_Wretched

            Reading are hard. To wit, Joy’s homophobia. But thanks for the adhom. It pretty well marks you a troll. Not that we needed further evidence.

          • Mr. M

            Why? Because I call out liberals that say homophobic things I’m a “troll”?

          • The_Wretched

            No, because your facts are not in evidence. Your reciting something doesn’t mean you have an accurate and complete picture.

          • Mr. M

            Amazing. Pictures of Donald and Putin kissing are homophobic, which is correct by the way. But Joy Reid outing people that are possibly in the closet is not. I wonder why that is to folks here

          • The_Wretched

            Pro-tip. If a comment section full of gay men cannot be arsed about your allegations, then you may have rather weak sauce or poor presentation or both. That’s all on you.

            If you want to call out the whole commentariat, you need a better argument and with better evidence and not just a coldslaw spill.

            What you’re doing is called ‘concern trolling’. It’s not new and it was recognized pretty quickly. Bugger off.

          • Mr. M

            Thanks for the condescending comment. It’s clear that on certain sites, unpopular opinions are shut down and told to bugger off. Very 2018. Goodbye.

          • JackFknTwist

            You’re not unpopular , you are unsubstantiated.
            That’s much worse.

          • Mr. M

            Why did she apologize if it’s “unsubstantiated”?

          • JackFknTwist

            You are the one who has done no substantiation !

        • JCF

          Way too much troll-feeding on this thread. Block & move on!

      • Lazycrockett
        • Mr. M

          Calling it as I see it. Mocking suspected gay men as “Miss” and “it’s okay you’re not into ladies!” trying to shame closeted gays isn’t okay on the left or right. But yawn away.

          • David Walker

            And an apology can never be accepted and must remembered as the horrendous slight it was and needs to be trotted out forever and forever. Have you considered running for president? How are you at lying?

          • TCinBerkeley

            She apologized to Crist and he accepted it. You should too.

          • The_Wretched

            “Calling it as I see it.”

            Invoking a legalistic defense doesn’t change your moral duty to be accurate and not to mislead.

      • RyanInIllinois

        Troll with activity set to private says what now?

        • Mr. M

          Just opened up account. Have at it.

      • Butch

        Examples, please, because she has always been an ally.

        • Mr. M

          Calling suspected gay men in the closet “Miss” and “It’s Okay You’re Not Into Ladies!” trying to shame men out of the closet is homophobic and deadly. Regardless of political affiliation. The fact you all don’t see that is dangerous.

        • Butch

          Replying to my own post, but I’ve never blocked anyone before. Just did.

          • TuuxKabin

            Did it a long time ago, Mr. M is going on about Joy’s past?

          • Butch

            At very high volume. Shrieking might characterize it.

          • TuuxKabin

            Infestation of shriek owls, no doubt. That bitch is crazy.

      • zhera

        Go troll somewhere else.

        • Mr. M

          Excusing homophobia on the left is dangerous. Good to know you call that “trolling”.

    • FAEN

      She was even more spectacular than usual sitting in for Hayes last night.

      • Butch

        Agree – loved the way she wouldn’t sit still for the BS coming from the GOP-er from Kansas.

      • Ninja0980

        I wish she would take over Hayes slot.
        She doesn’t take crap like he does.

        • Cassondra

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      • JackFknTwist

        I watched her last night ; I was so impressed with the way she would not let that politician get away with the s hite he was spouting, she repeatedly held his feet to the fire.

        • FAEN

          She’ll be filling in for him today as well. I shall be watching with bells on!

          • JackFknTwist

            Ditto.
            At least she doesn’t allow these manipulators to deviate into their talking points patter…..she returns to the question she has asked.
            I wish there were more like her.

  • Michael R
  • Denis

    Stepping in dog shit is “very unfortunate.” If he were a CEO, he’d be fired. He should resign. Period.

    • David Walker

      Wow. That’s a shocker.

    • JWC

      See that’s OK with Donny He may have been the wrong color but money was involved

    • SoCalGal20

      GET HIM, HAITI

    • stevenj

      I doubt that Baby Doc Duvalie was the only one at trump’s launderette.

  • teeveedub

    Considering Ryan’s lack of a spine, it’s astonishing that he can still stand up.

    • David Walker

      He uses his supporters.

  • kelven
  • Bambino
    • PickyPecker
      • Jay George

        Glad to see you back honey. We missed you.

    • KCMC

      Mmmmmmm. Pad Thai it is for lunch.

      • TuuxKabin

        Our go to Thai place closed. Sigh. Miss it so. The others, okay, but . . .

        • Alex in Idaho

          Going to ours for dinner tonight. They’re so popular, they’re bulding a bigger place down the road!

          • TuuxKabin

            Thai is still King. Rules.

        • KCMC

          Que triste. Lo siento, Señor.
          My lunch date flaked, eating revved up supermarket sesame noodles.
          Turbo amounts of ginger, garlic. Added fake crab.
          Fake cuisine news.

  • ChrisInKansas

    So, he’s confirming, then.

  • Xaca

    Because Ryan is a weasly little demi-white supremacist himself?

  • Lamb Urgini
    • TuuxKabin

      Peek a boo, ic, what u did there.

      Had one for breakfast. Not a pear eater, but it was, okay.

      • coram nobis

        Anjou glad?

        • TuuxKabin

          Applely.

  • I’ve a feeling this is gonna be a really rough weekend…

  • David Walker

    “So, first thing that came to my mind, was, very unfortunate, unhelpful…” Interesting. That’s what comes to mind when I think of the honorable Mr. Ryan.

    • TuuxKabin

      Tell him:

      Ofice Location:
      1233 Longworth HOB
      Washington, D.C. 20515

      Phone: (202) 225-3031
      Fax: (202) 225-3393

      Use: https://faxzero.com/

      • David Walker

        Ooooh. That felt good.

        • TuuxKabin

          I know what you mean. Free fax es ze BOMB!

  • coram nobis

    I’d like to have seen Ryan’s initial “he f*cking said what??”

    https://dawm7kda6y2v0.cloudfront.net/uploads/2018/01/paul-ryan-striped-tie-804×450.jpg

  • bkmn

    Hey Paul, how do you feel about Trump effectively screwing you over from ever running for Prez?

  • Lazycrockett

    Joy Reid is on!!

  • Tawreos

    He is overjoyed because it keeps eyes off of what he and the senate are doing to fuck us all over today.

    • Lazycrockett

      Its a long weekend they are all home raising money.

  • Ninja0980

    Republicans are never, EVER going to hold Trump accountable, in part because many of them think the same way he does.
    Therefore it’s up to us to vote as many Republicans as we can out of office.

  • Mr. M

    Reached for comment, Lindsey Graham said, “I love President Trump!” while mouthing afterwards “Help me…please…”

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      That may be far truer than any of us had suspected.

      https://www.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/951868880087023617

      • Karl Dubhe 2

        When you’re getting blackmailed, it’s best to say “publish, and be damned.” Otherwise, you’ll be damned anyway.

      • Tomcat

        How about enacting the Russian sanctions congress passed trump, you are NOT upholding the laws of our country.

  • another_steve

    I was flaccid this morning, but I took care of it.

  • JWC

    Can this wimpy schmuck even get an erection

  • bkmn

    Ryan is Trump’s cuck.

    • Xaca

      Trump fucks Ryan like his back ain’t got no bone.

    • Xaca

      Okay. Then “Trump cucks Ryan like his back ain’t got no bone.”

  • Joe in PA

    “So, first thing that came to my mind, was, very unfortunate, unhelpful”

    Here’s a thought Ryan…IT’S NOT ABOUT YOU. Fucking asshole, of COURSE this is his “first thought”. Why would he fucking admit that?

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
    • Tomcat

      Since we ALL did.

  • Kelly Lape

    White privilege. How does this effect me? My plans?

    Unfortunate, unhelpful. Not a single thought to the victims of his racism.

    • Joe in PA

      B.I.N.G.O.

  • boobert

    But the moron denied saying it . How can it be unfortunate if it didn’t happen? Make up your mind.

    • Tawreos

      Even Ryan isn’t pretending to believe the lies anymore.

  • Rocco

    Flaccid is such a great word, and perfect for the situation. I would love it if Mr. Personality goes down to (on?) Mr. Leather Daddy in the mid-terms.

  • Michael R
    • Lazycrockett

      pity.

    • ChrisInKansas

      Will Trump attend the funeral?

      • FAEN

        Probably give him the Medal of Freedom posthumously.

        • ChrisInKansas

          “There’s one less Very Good Person in the world.”

      • Will Trump follow suit?

        • Joe in PA

          Right after we put him in prison.

      • Joe in PA

        Maybe, and I bet he’s sorry he didn’t get the pardon paperwork done sooner. 🙁

      • iambu

        He’ll offer to pay for it, then skip out on the check.

    • David Walker

      “No one mourns the wicked.”

    • Xaca

      Damn, is that a goiter?

      • TCinBerkeley

        erhmehgerd! I am sitting here giggling at this.

    • Jay George

      He got to live to a ripe old age, unlike his victims.

    • greenmanTN

      I was gonna do the southern “well bless his heart!” thing but decided on “Fuck a bunch of him!” Instead .

    • JCF
  • FAEN

    Journalists should be screaming at Ryan and every fucking republican-“You’re ALL RACISTS!”

  • Tomcat

    So how long until Ryan says he is not running again?

    • FAEN

      Let’s hope tomorrow.

    • TCinBerkeley

      I think it will be soon as, allegedly, the tax “reform” bill was his reason for being. I think he is eager to get out there and cash in all of the favors that Corporate America owes him.

    • Steve Teeter

      He does have a challenger. A former Marine, I believe. Can’t remember his name.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Sigh….we’ve been here before. The response from the GOP as a whole has been meh….those that have said something outside of Mia Love, sure seem to be reacting out of stifled obligation.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8c786c1f581bef05796089c36fdbf69dd541fa638f8493e841ede9b5ef7439e9.jpg

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      He reminds me of Jared Kushner for some reason.

      • Cuberly Deux

        The Eddie Haskell Effect is quite versatile in it’s capacity for application. 😉

        • greenmanTN

          He had BDF, admit it.

  • Michael R
    • Tomcat

      A government overthrow cannot be done by just one man, it takes the entire GOP.

      • edrex

        and russia.

  • KCMC

    Watergate memories:
    “Maybe occasionally you should enjoy the luxury of an unexpressed thought.” -Sen Everett Dirksen.
    #filter #toolate #diplomacy #manners

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      That reminds of something a French president once said. I can’t remember if it was Giscard d’Estaing or Mitterand, but the situation was all of Europe was coalescing to present a unified position on some major global issue, and the Czech government goes and spouts the opposite, and he said, “They missed an excellent opportunity to shut up.”

  • Tomcat

    May he suffer a lifetime of flaccidity.

    • Joe in PA

      I suspect you are too late. I hope.

    • Longpole

      Not a problem when he beats off thinking about Ayn Rand.

  • coram nobis

    Joe, shouldn’t you call Ryan’s reaction a form of “flaccid reflex”?

  • DisqusD37

    That adverb is sublime.

  • greenmanTN
    • Xaca

      Paul “Sub-3hourmarathon Never Happened Either” Ryan. That’s what got him the name Lyin’ Ryan in the first place.

      • edrex

        it was that marathon lie that really pissed of my corporate-type brother-in-law.

    • coram nobis

      So he should have known a dumbbell when he heard it speak.

    • edrex

      ha!

  • MassageBear
  • Kevin Perez

    This Just In: Normay and Nambia declare war on Trump. F-52’s are on their way to bomb stuff.

  • KCMC

    Old gem:
    “One of the lessons of history is that Nothing is often a good thing to do and always a clever thing to say.”
    -Will Durant
    #toolate #nofilter

  • gaycuckhubby

    So no actual condemnation? Just to take on how this affects him… Unfortunate and unhelpful FOR HIM

  • Cackalaquiano

    “Well, it was relatively ill-considered…”

  • -M-

    Sycophantic quisling says, the racist, ignorant, disgusting, un-American, inexcusable remark was “unfortunate” and “unhelpful”.

  • zhera

    Lyin’ Ryan, this is on you as much as it is on Donnie Dotard. You could’ve stopped this but no, you had to get your tax reform. Fuck you sideways with a cactus!

  • Slippy_World
  • The_Wretched

    Okaaaay. That was tepid. Time for the Senator from Turtle money to comment.

  • EqualityForAll

    “Unfortunate, unhelpful, and ungood.”

    How unsincere can you be?

  • Keith D Plane

    “unfortunate” and “unhelpful.” and that was the best he could come up with. FU Opie,

  • Hank

    Paul Ryan…. What A WIMP!!!

  • edrex

    baiting us for flaccid ryan comments, eh Joe? well, i for one am not going to take the bait. (unless of course, no one else does.)

  • anne marie in philly

    OF COURSE HE DID. lyin’ ryan does whatever the dear leader tells him to do. and rick scott is just kissing up to the dear leader.

  • Natty Enquirer

    He missed “unloving.”

    • Friday

      I’m blown away by those preachers’ stiff near-criticism of Drumph’s tone when he exposed the racism they all promote.

  • Amanda B. Rekendwith
    • Daveed_WOW

      Came here to see this.

  • coram nobis

    We interrupt this shithole report to mention something else that Ryan should have reacted to. It seems Donald objected to House legislation regarding FISA — and then had to have “FISA” explained to him.

    https://www.salon.com/2018/01/12/donald-trump-needed-fisa-explained-to-him-after-he-denounced-it-report/

    House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) spent 30 minutes on the phone with the president explaining the differences between domestic and foreign surveillance, as many fellow Republicans reacted in disbelief and befuddlement.

    • The_Wretched

      I guess they haven’t really understood the following point:

      Trump knows about next to nothing and he understands even less. This includes even basic issues or ideas that you should know about merely because you are alive and speak English.

      • coram nobis

        Apparently Our Stable Leader was reacting to a Fox & Friends show.

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    “So, first thing that came to my mind, was, very unfortunate, unhelpful,”

    Oh yes, so it’s not bad that he thinks/says things like that, it’s apparently only bad that he said it now.

  • kareemachan

    Flaccid is too strong a word for him.

    • RaygunsGoZap

      Deceased would do

  • GanymedeRenard

    Flaccid, just like his dick.

  • Kevin Andrews

    This wholly owned and operated Koch brother’s & Mercer Meat-Puppet is as disgusting a gilded feces as ever pulled its self out of the septic tank. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a19af44328b8a8c1481aebc9133a0a82147116eb0d63d82ccf23f252c88b1914.png

  • Friday

    Translation, “I will mildly ‘tsk’ at him saying that out loud because it unhelpfully reveals our party’s racism too blatantly.”

  • Tor

    Democrats made up this story, some are saying. Believe me, if Democrats made up a story, it would be much more nuanced and subtle.

  • Steve Heath

    Flacid Object(ion) is the name of my new soft rock cover band

  • Gianni

    Expecting any kind of strong disagreement or criticism of Donnie from this Jelly Spine is a total waste of time. Let’s remember: He called Donnie’s presidency – “Exquisite”. Like it’s the world’s most beautiful diamond – “It’s exquisite!” What a groveling sycophant and worse yet, HE”S the Speaker of the House. The whole scenario gets a higher level of disgusting every day.

  • Friday

    Heard a bit of a clip from Ryan on the radio a couple hours ago, claiming that it somehow adds ‘dignity’ to sick and poor people to make them sicker and poorer.

    • Ann Kah

      Mother Theresa Ryan?

  • DoctorDJ

    Paul, you effin’ pussy.
    Grow a pair and stand up to this POS so-called POTUS.

  • JCF
  • YUGE

    RINO FRAUD

  • 1980Gardener

    The hard part about this for the GOP is separating the “racism” from mere correlation. If there was an advanced economy in Africa that he also wanted to avoid immigration from, that would bolster the racism argument. It is very hard to separate “advanced” economies from white/Asian racial makeup. In fact, i’m not sure of any.

    Unfortunately, as usual, Trump’s vulgarity means that any thoughtful discussion of immigration is impossible.