Trump Accuses Pakistan Of “Lies And Deceit”

NBC News reports:

President Donald Trump threatened to end U.S. foreign aid for Pakistan Monday in his first tweet of 2018 — a move that comes amid strained ties over America’s decade-long war in Afghanistan. In an early-morning post, he accused Islamabad of harboring terrorists.

The U.S. has repeatedly called on Pakistan to crack down on extremists in its border regions, including militants in the Taliban-linked Haqqani network, and warned in August that it was withholding millions of dollars in military assistance.

There was a furious reaction in Pakistan, where the government has rejected U.S. criticism and says it has suffered from being a regional ally of Washington in the war against terror.

Pakistan will “let the world know the … difference between facts and fiction,” Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif tweeted, promising to respond to Trump “shortly.”

  • Lazycrockett

    shut up.

  • Bambino

    The Pakistan Minister of Foreign Affairs has replied.
    https://twitter.com/KhawajaMAsif/status/947816295738863616

    • Sam_Handwich
    • Chucktech

      They can respond with whatever they want, but, like a broken clock, Trump is right. The Pakistanis are liars but we’ve known that for ever. Exhibit A: Osama bin Laden. (And thank you, President Obama, for essentially telling them to fuck off after they squawked over the raid that, under your leadership, took him out.) They also have nukes so we have to play nice with them and if they hadn’t at least feigned a little help in Afghanistan, we’d have a logistical nightmare.

      • Bambino

        Politic is always self serving. There is no right or wrong rather who’s interest one is looking after. It’s not simply the good versus the evil. The complexities of political play in a larger scale among nations and among individuals are all about give and take. Who and which nation can benefit the most out of the relationships. None of this is relevant in this post because we are talking about a con man with no political depth nor understanding of policies suffering from daily diarrhea of tweets. A buffoon who make a joke of the most powerful nation in the world and now some nations are openly humiliating and baiting the idiot to further damage any credibility left of the country.

    • Pluto Animus

      I assume that, if he hadn’t mentioned their magical, invisible friend, a murderous mob would have immediately sought to kill him.

  • bkmn

    Now that it is clear that both China and Russia are aiding North Korea he needs a diversion to take attention away from the fact the people he has been praising lately are working against our interests.

    • McSwagg

      At this rate, we’ll soon have three new wars to occupy our attention.
      1. North Korea
      2. Pakistan
      3. Iran

      And those are on top of the other conflicts that the GOP has mired us in in the last couple of decades.
      4. Afganistan
      5. Irag & Syria

  • BlackGayVeganAtheist

    The US has given Israel at least ten times that amount and has gotten nothing but lies and deceit.

    • bkmn

      And a few back stabs by Bibi, who will never stop building new settlements in the contested land.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        * occupied land

      • BlackGayVeganAtheist

        The United States is reportedly about to give its biggest-ever pledge of military assistance to Israel.

        According to sources who spoke to Reuters, the two countries recently came to a final agreement on a new military assistance pact that will see the US give Israel at least $3.8 billion a year for a decade. Under the previous deal, which expires in 2018, Israel received more than $3.1 billion annually.

        Sources said that Israel made several concessions in the deal. Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu originally asked for at least $4.5 billion each year. And as part of the new deal, Israel will have to scale down the amount of American military aid money it spends on its own defense industry. Currently, Israel spends about 26 percent of US aid on domestic military contractors; Washington wants that to go to US companies instead.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5c6460261d8b3637a057c51a78494262619151bb79f15f59e55d9b83f968cef0.png

        https://news.vice.com/article/israel-will-reportedly-get-a-record-38-billion-in-military-aid-from-the-us

        • David L. Caster

          Well, there goes the money that would have helped fund a national apprentice program on par with that of Germany.

          Making the military industrial complex great again.

          • McSwagg

            LOL!
            The U. S. Military IS our National Apprentice Program.

        • netxtown

          They wanted 4.5Bil$ ? Who the fuck do they hope to be?

          • Mikey

            Moyshe Trumpstein.

        • bkmn

          And then there is the little deal he made with the Saudis (a multi-billion dollar arms and plane deal) who have been doing everything they can to destabilize the region.

        • BobSF_94117

          It really is remarkable. What we call “foreign aid” is really nothing more than subsidizing our “defense” industries.

          • kareemachan

            They’ve disguised it pretty fucking well.

          • Steve Smith

            And other industries. There are instances of “foreign aid” being used to build luxury holiday resorts, on the grounds that it will increase employment. This despite the fact that local families get thrown off their lands to build said resort, and are thus rendered destitute. And this sort of thing is commonplace. The IMF, the World Bank, all complicit in this forced land-and-resource grabbing.

          • marshlc

            Yes, lots of foreign aid is “tied” and is essentially just a modern form of colonialism.

          • BobSF_94117

            If it were colonialism, we’d at least be importing something they produced, not paying them to pay us for something they really don’t need.

          • McSwagg

            But we are importing their Nigerian oil, their blood diamonds and gold, &c.

          • McSwagg

            Even hunger and food relief is a subsidy to our corporate agribusiness industries.

    • another_steve

      Republicans love Israel because Jesus is set to return triumphantly to Israel, slaughter all the Jews and build nice housing units for Born Again Christians.

      • If I become born-again, can I get one of those awesome Tel Aviv Bauhaus buildings? No one needs to be slaughtered and I’ll be crossing my fingers when I’m “witnessing” but I’m good at pretending.

        • David Walker

          No, sorry, there must be slaughter. That’s how he’s traditionally got things done. He gets pissed off? He slaughters.

      • Paula

        WIll they all have pools?

        • Todd20036

          Dead pools.

      • Scott MB

        Wasn’t Jeebus a Jew? That will be interesting, so would that be cobsidered suicide when he offs himself? That’s a sin that can’t be forgiven.

        • another_steve

          Jesus was a good Jewish boy whose mother thought he was god. Same here. I was a good Jewish boy and my mother thought I was god too.

          I decorated well. Her and my father’s apartment walls were in desperate need of help. Cheap prints and the like. At age 13, I redecorated their apartment and turned it fabulous.

          Some of the wall hangings I recommended those many years ago to them – and that they purchased – today hang in my husband’s and my home.

    • Todd20036

      Israel has been doing more for the US than you realize. Being a counter measure to the extremist regimes in the middle east has provide us with defense on what would have been another front.

      That being said, Bibi is an idiot.

      • Librarykid

        Finally.

    • Librarykid

      Your hate and ignorance are appalling, but it is interesting how you can yank a topic of Pakistan to make it one against Israel, the only democracy in the region and a huge base for our military intelligence which is important so that the US can keep tabs on what your Muslim friends are trying to do to attack our nation. You go on kissing Muslim ass, but just remember Israel is the only nation in that wretched area where you would not be killed just for being gay.

      Part of that huge amount of money from America that goes to Israel is investment because Israel has a lot of high tech research and industry. Arab nations have miniscule amounts by comparison so nobody is pumping wealth to them except North Korea and other authoritarian nations for making munitions.

      • BlackGayVeganAtheist

        The US has indeed been a stalwart and sometimes blind supporter of Israel, offering it over $3.1 billion in financial assistance each year for the last a few decades, an amount that dramatically increased under President Barack Obama to $3.8 billion.

        In addition to hundreds of millions more in all kinds of financial, military assistance and “loans” that went mostly unaccounted for.

        However, Netanyahu has lied and continues to do so. His country has not been an equally strong ally to the US; in fact, Israel has been a liability. Let alone the various serious episodes of Israeli spying on Washington and bartering US secrets and technologies with Russia and China, Israel has been the cause of instability in the Middle East region.

        http://www.newsweek.com/2014/05/16/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757.html

        http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/israeli-spy-pollard-released-prison-151120094129649.html

        https://www.defensetech.org/2013/12/24/report-israel-passes-u-s-military-technology-to-china/

        Since World War II, the US has vied to achieve two main foreign policy objectives in the Middle East: Control the region and its resources and prop-up its allies (often dictators), while maintaining a degree of “stability” so that the US is able to conduct its business unhindered.

        Nevertheless, Israel remained on the warpath. Wars that Israel couldn’t fight on its own required American intervention on Israel’s behalf, as was the case in Iraq. The outcome was disastrous for US foreign policy. Even hardened military men began noticing the destructive path their country had chosen in order to defend Israel.

  • Boreal
  • Bluto
  • SD51

    To be fair, they are right, we do have a fool for a leader.

  • another_steve

    Well there goes the American Pakistani vote in November, congressional Republicans.

    • Chucktech

      Hmm, I guess that’s a thing…

      I’ll bet most of the Pakistanis who’ve settled in the US would say, “Uh, yeah, they’re liars… Your point?”

  • Ninja0980

    Great idea, let’s tick off the people who decide whether or not we can use their air space, land etc. to launch attacks in Afghanistan.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Not to mention intel and the like.

    • Gerry Fisher

      I’d like to be a fly on the wall in Jim Mattis’ residence today.

    • Chucktech

      … even if they ARE bald faced liars. Which we’ve known forever.

      • Ninja0980

        Yup.
        Sad thing is Trump will make it even worse.

    • thatotherjean

      We could, like so many before us, declare victory in Afghanistan and get the hell out of there.

  • JWC

    one one by one he alienated them all until he was alone

    • Niblet58

      No, until WE are all alone and very very vulnerable….

      • JWC

        that is assuming he cares about you

  • BlackGayVeganAtheist
    • DaddyRay

      And how many are still without power in Puerto Rico

      • BlackGayVeganAtheist

        YEP…this and so much more…we can not even get an infrastructure bill passed to fix our crumbling system here in the US

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        Almost half.
        Heckuva job, Donnie.

        • Karin

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      • zhera

        And because of the lack of power in PR, hospitals in the US and other places are running out of IV bags and other medical equipment. But why should Donnie care about that?

      • JCF

        Still not as high a % as those lacking clean tap water in Flint.

    • Nychta
    • RSCass

      Israel has ‘free’ healthcare our of the 3 billion and allowes abortion. Silence from the Right.

    • HandsomeMrToad

      Most of the aid we send to Israel comes back to USA in the form of payment for hi-tech weapons.

  • DaddyRay

    Yet another distraction for the media

  • Bambino
    • David L. Caster

      Now, if he’d just shoot the thing while it’s in there….

  • tbj5

    Someone needs a new distraction now that Mueller didn’t ‘wrap up’ his investigation by the end of the year.

    And Putin absolutely loves anything that weakens US influence in the Mid East so that Russia and China can move in.

  • Bambino
  • greenmanTN
  • BlackGayVeganAtheist

    Simple answer. If your nation can afford nukes, they don’t need our money.

    That includes everyone.

    Especially the ones that can afford to give every person free medical care, while we pay for their military.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/38c93ac345127e97a42fc8ce231813d70cf1a41a255be066b4d66fd31c775cef.png

    • Free medical care that includes abortions but they don’t care about it there somehow.

      • Paul

        What’s a few abortions when they can try and usher in Armageddon and meet their Lard and Savior.

  • netxtown

    so the orange pig took a shit this morning. so did my dog…

  • Joe in PA

    thinking of our leaders as fools.

    Pretty much, yeah.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      He’s confusing the word “thinking” with “knowing”

  • another_steve

    Ohmigod that second tweet Joe posted above. 🙁

    This is the President of the United States speaking?

    He sounds like a petulant 10 year old.

    • I’ve heard more mature, articulate conversations coming from groups of tweens in the mall.

    • thatotherjean

      You’ve exaggerated his thought processes by 4 or 5 years.

  • DumbHairyApe

    I would believe Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif more than I would our own president.

  • BlackGayVeganAtheist
    • netxtown

      no wonder we ain’t got no money. we pissed it away on junk

      • lattebud

        And it is part of the reason we can’t have nice things…. like roads and bridges

      • Todd20036

        $3.1 billion is chicken feed for this country. It’s couch cushion change.

    • Gretchen

      Can anyone recommend any reliable books, articles, or even documentaries on the formation of Israel and current geopolitics in the region? I clearly need to do some studying, and I would rather avoid anything with obvious bias.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    He IS a clear and present danger to the safety of the U.S…..

    https://twitter.com/sirlthr69/status/947869692827447299

  • Halou

    It’s called Quid Pro Quo, I’d have thought a billionaire “successful” businessman like Trump would understand the concept and respect it. Pakistan has offended it’s neighbours and backed America’s position in international forums for… about as long as America has been paying them to do it.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    O/T Did he just???? Am I reading this right????? Oh dear sweet fake lord jesus…..don’t tease me Ron…..

    https://twitter.com/perlmutations/status/947503682244841473

    • I only really know him from Beauty and the Beast, which I never actually watched, but I say what the hell: go for it. Anything is better than this. It could be a Paul Reubens/Emo Philips ticket and it would be better.

      Come to think of it, a Paul Reubens/Emo Philips ticket would be amazing.

  • KnownDonorDad

    How are we growing smarter, as a country? Flat-Eartherism and neo-Nazism have both come back with a vengeance.

    • Halou

      Putin calls from time to time to say how smart Trump is for his forays into foreign policy. As much as Trump enjoys being praised by anyone, he wets himself with joy every time he hears it from his master.

      Russia can now make moves in Pakistan and not have to worry about facing off against any competition. He can act freely in Afghanistan knowing that a diminished US-Pakistan relationship will make America’s place in the landlocked country untenable.

      Putin is establishing a permanent military presence in Egypt.

      Putin is expanding his permanent military presence in Syria. With the relevant treaty granting curfew exemptions, tax exemptions and immunity from prosecution not just to Russian soldiers, but their families too (and remember this is a permanent military presence, made generational by the deployment of families! Read: Colonisation)

      Putin is negotiating with a Libyan warlord, promising to help elevate him to power in that country and in return he will give Russia the right to base troops there, and reject any such applications from other nations.

      Putin is selling S-400 anti-missile systems to Turkey, a violation of the terms of the NATO alliance that military equipment much be acquired from alliance members. What’s more, the S-400 systems are to come with their crews, ostensibly to train the Turks in how to use it. And additional “security details”.

      Putin is in talks with Greece and Cyprus for the right to base warships in those countries. In the case of Cyprus the intention is to station them literally across the bay from one of the British Sovereign Bases, so close they could spy on America’s allies with fucking binoculars!

      And Russia’s relations with Saudi Arabia… Well, let’s just say that the name Mike Flynn comes up.

      And in the geopolitical chessboard that is the middle east, what does Trump do? He insults America’s allies and moves the US embassy to Jerusalem!

      • kareemachan

        Totally brill….

        /s

      • Gretchen

        Thank you for this explanation. I am woefully ignorant of foreign affairs and that has to change. This is terrifying.

        • Halou

          I have no doubt Russia would still be trying this if Hillary were the President, but if she were then at least America would be reacting to Russia’s moves, reinforcing it’s position in the region and pushing back against this increased Russian diplomatic, military and propaganda activity.

          Trump, however, is busy playing golf for the 7th day in a row, a serious dereliction of duty that by itself is tantamount to treason.

      • coram nobis

        There’s also the matter of oil transfers at sea to NK ships. Looks like the Russians, not the Chinese. Of course, Putin will want cash on the barrelhead.

        https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russian-tankers-have-smuggled-oil-north-korea-breach-u-n-n833531

      • McSwagg

        Putin is moving to encircle and isolate Europe from the West. At that point, he can threaten Europe at will with no worries of Western interference.

    • Daveed_WOW

      I know what you mean, but stop analyzing the troll. When you stare into the abyss, it stares back at you.

  • Dramphooey

    We, the United States of America, are being manipulated. It is very easy to do so with an imbecile at the helm.

    • MBear

      And a crew full of imbeciles…?

  • Kruhn

    While Pakistan has been an ally of convenience, pulling this shit is sooo going to help Pakistani – American relations. So this intemperate Tweet from The Mangled Apricot Hellbeast will probably push Pakistan towards its other benefactor, China.

    Well played, Donald. Well, played. I guess we’ll be tired of all this winning.

    • kareemachan

      We WILL be? I already am.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    Even when he gets a teeny sliver of something right, he does the absolutely wrong thing with it. Pakistan’s intelligence agencies HAVE been meddling with Afghanistan and the Taliban for its own purposes but this tweet tantrum does nothing to fix the situation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-Services_Intelligence_activities_in_Afghanistan

    • Halou

      Obama had the right approach, when he had Bin Laden taken out in a guarded compound just down the road from the homes of Pakistani military and intelligence officials. Act unilaterally and without informing Pakistan then simply wait for them to explain how they can so quickly complain about the noise SEAL Team Six made yet, despite promising they would, they couldn’t see the man literally down the fucking street!

      It embarrassed Pakistan but it didn’t insult them.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        True. Do what needs to be done, know how (un)trustworthy the people you’re dealing with are but don’t shame them publicly and blow up the relationship.

        • thatotherjean

          Of course, figuring out what needs to be done is a lot more difficult when you’ve eviscerated your State Department and your diplomatic corps. We’ve got a bunch of clueless amateurs running, and wrecking, the government

    • BobSF_94117

      He’s so big on “self-interest”, why the hell does he think everyone else shouldn’t indulge in it, too?

  • TheManicMechanic

    Dotard Trump simply hates the fact that Obama pronounces it “Pockyston” and that has his senility-addled brain locked on.

  • kareemachan

    dipshit.

  • Jim Maloney

    Now what’s he babbling about…?

  • David Walker

    New year, same shit.

  • David Walker

    Has the fucking moron continued the tradition of the Saturday radio address? Not that I’d listen, but I do recall hearing some of President Obama’s chats AND the media quoting him from time to time. Is radio too primitive?

    • Gianni

      I thought hearing Dubbya talk was more than I could handle, but Donnie has certainly surpassed him. The lies and distortions that spew from that facial ass hole get me to shouting at the TV like a madman. Besides, when one reads his tweets, one’s brain actually gets exercised by trying to comprehend the messages and, at the same time, mentally rearranging the words to try to make coherent statements out of them, usually a wasted effort.

  • kanehau

    Hey Donald… Obama had Bin Laden killed… you going to fish him back out?

  • Matt

    “Lies.” OMG, too funny!

  • FAEN

    Pakistan has been a rouge state for a while now.

    • Texpat

      Rouge state? What’s next, eyeshadow? Lipstick? Maybe mascara?

  • kareemachan

    Dude, you put Betsy dewhore in charge of education. We are NOT getting smarter.

  • Gerry Fisher

    He’s such a diplomat, ain’t he?

    • Cuberly Deux

      Diplomat, arsonist….it’s all the same in Trumpland.

  • gothambear

    where is our Sad Sack Secretary of State Tillerson during this latest incident of international diplomacy by Twitter?

    • Gianni

      Tillerson has the job title but not really the job.

  • FelineMama

    Another tweet the Tweeter in Chief did not author. Correct spelling, syntax. An adult wrote this. I’ll wager he couldn’t find Pakistan/Afghanistan on a globe. “A globe” what’s that”? He sez. Dummy!!!!!!!!
    Besides, when would he have the time in between golfing.

  • -M-

    Ass-trump doesn’t get the real world situation where something is neither as good as it should be nor as bad as it could be.

  • Thorn Spike

    Well, he got the “thinking of our leaders as fools” part right.

  • teedofftaxpayer

    If our country grew smarter, Trump sure as hell wouldn’t be President.

    • Gianni

      Excellent point and it has a well deserved barb on it.

  • Silver Badger

    If anyone knows about lies and deceit, it wold be our national asshole.

  • JT

    Drumpf: They have given us nothing but lies and deceit …
    https://i.imgur.com/W4HguLm.gif

    • M Jackson

      There once were a pot and a kettle, both black …

  • Will Parkinson

    Wait. Am I supposed to take it you think they’re wrong about our leaders?

  • JCF

    Who needs a State Department, when we can do “diplomacy” by Tweet?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/117738b70ecc1f17d7cecdaa02418520dd58bc59fa5b42987bca34b0602debad.png

  • DaveMiller135

    If you think the terrorists you seek are in Pakistan, why are you waging war in Afghanistan? Too soon?

  • coram nobis

    In one century we’ve gone from Woodrow Wilson talking about “open covenants, openly arrived at,” to Donald.

    “Open insults, openly arrived at.”

    • McSwagg

      “Open insults, openly tweeted.”

  • TexasBoy

    In Bizarro World, Pakistan is guilty of lies and deceit and Russia/Putin is as pure as the driven snow.

    • Halou

      Trump believes Putin when he says that Russia has not committed acts of war against America, because apparently Putin would have no reason at all to lie about something like that.. /s. But Trump refuses to even listen to America’s own intelligence and security agencies, much less accept and act on their reports.

  • JR

    Pakistan should respond, not true, we had a very high opinion of President Obama’s intelligence.

  • justmeeeee

    Very helpful, fuck face!

  • HandsomeMrToad

    Am I the only one who remembers how Candidate Trump made nicey-nice to the leaders of Pakistan during the campaign and riled up the Indians?

    • Halou

      India is one of the main buyers of Russian-made military hardware. Something that was in recent years threatened by American manufacturers.
      Enter Trump.
      Now America’s share of India’s military procurement budget is shrinking and Russia’s share is growing again.

    • Gianni

      We should have all learned by now that whatever Donnie says at any given time, becomes totally meaningless a week, month, or however long after when he then says something that completely contradicts what he whined and bitched about before. AND he doesn’t care even if the contradiction gets thrown in his face. Just like the low unemployment rate during Obama’s last year – those numbers were phony, lies, and useless. The same rate numbers during his first few months were now terrific. He had no problem making a joke out of that contradiction saying, “That was then. This is now.” The man treats the whole ‘being President’ thing like a joke.

      • HandsomeMrToad

        Disagree. He is faithfully keeping his most important pledge to the right-wing: to let them select the judges he appoints. He will appoint a record-setting number of judges to seats which the Republicans have kept open (Merrick Garland was only the tip of a gigantic iceberg) and he has so far dutifully obeyed the right-wingers’ every wish in this regard. By the time he leaves office we will have an extreme right-wing activist judicial branch, topped with a SCOTUS consisting of SEVEN right-wing activists with only Kagan and Sotomayor writing feeble dissents (Trump will replace Ginsburg, Kennedy, Breyer, and possibly Clarence Thomas Long Dong Silver.) And most of the judges he appoints will be around for three decades or more.

        This is many things but NOT a joke.

        • Gianni

          WE know it’s not a joke, but he treats it like one. You’re right, he does keep some promises – the ones that serve us the crap.

  • .
    That’s right, DJ — drive Pakistan even deeper into China’s orbit, just as you have already driven India into Russia’s.

    Good riddance to bad rubbish, eh, DJ? Maybe they’ll take each other out, hmmm?

    Idiot.

    https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/deeper-defence-security-cooperation-with-russia-enhances-indias-strategic-choices/articleshow/62200689.cms
    .

    • Halou

      It’s almost as if global politics is a tricky subject. Too bad a certain president fired many State Department staff and stripped the department of nearly a third of it’s budget, they could have been helpful on issues like this.
      America could have elected former Secretary of State who has a head for these things, by some accounts America did just that only Russia got offended by it and intervened.

      • .
        “Now I have to tell you, it’s an unbelievably complex subject. Nobody knew that Foreign Relations could be so complicated.”
        .

  • netxtown

    I understand his outrage. Heck, that’s 33 billion that could have been in his pocket….

  • wds

    OK … what do we get back from Israel? Very little –
    What do we get back of Pakistan? – A LOT! The two countries are very different in their response to our aid – and personally, Pakistan wins … https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ebdd69d66543027f21423030e1d27edc6c53dd01902889c733e9ef642a561722.jpg