REPORT: Trump Is Pleased With His Loony New York Times Interview Because It Dominated Today’s News

The Washington Post reports:

When President Trump sat down with a reporter for a wide-ranging, 30-minute interview at his private golf club here Thursday, not a single aide or adviser was present at the table — and not a single aide or adviser knew about it in advance.

As word trickled back to the White House, advisers worked to reach the president, with Trump’s personal aide interrupting at one point to hand him a cellphone with White House communicators director Hope Hicks on the line, who checked in on the interview from afar.

But others were out of the loop even after The Times story posted online Thursday evening. One White House official, when asked about the president’s impromptu interview, was perplexed, wondering aloud, “What interview? Today?” Another frustrated aide called it “embarrassing.”

But the president himself had no such qualms. Trump was enthusiastic about the interview and liked that the New York Times was at his golf course, people briefed on the interview said. The president, they added, enjoyed the coverage afterward and noted that it dominated TV most of Friday.

There’s SO much more at the link.

  • Oscarlating Wildely
    • Jonathan Smith

      so, dRumph?

      • lattebud

        Ann. Milo. Hannity. Etc

  • Jonathan Smith
  • Chucktech

    Another frustrated aide called it “embarrassing.”

    Embarrassing really is too high a plane. It’s really more down on the “mortifying” level.

  • DaddyRay

    And the media eat it up every single time

  • gaycuckhubby

    Imagine how his impeachment or indictment would dominate the headlines. For a LONG time!

    • Chucktech

      Can’t wait to see…

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      It’ll get the bigliest ratings ever!

    • JCF

      Donnie, when they haul you off to prison, we PROMISE to hold the Biggest Fucking Parade EVER!!!!

  • Chucktech

    He should have used the phrase “no collusion” more frequently than he did. You know, to really get the point across as to how much collusion he knows there really was.

    • Jonathan Smith

      more than 38 times in a half hour?
      the entire interview would have been:
      “Democrat, Hillary, Collusion,Democrat, Hillary, Collusion,Democrat, Hillary, Collusion,Democrat, Hillary, Collusion,Democrat, Hillary, Collusion,Democrat, Hillary, Collusion,Democrat, Hillary, Collusion,Democrat, Hillary, Collusion,Democrat, Hillary, Collusion,Democrat, Hillary, Collusion,Democrat, Hillary, Collusion,Democrat, Hillary, Collusion,Democrat, Hillary, Collusion,Democrat, Hillary, Collusion,Democrat, Hillary, Collusion,Democrat, Hillary, Collusion, see it was not me!”

      • Chucktech

        See what I mean? I’m not quite sure what he’s trying to say…

        • Jonathan Smith

          that’s OK.
          neither does he.

    • Bob Conti

      New cocktail at Mar a Leggo: Pina Collusiona. I hear Trump’s going to make a song about it.

      Sorry. It’s been a long week.

      • Lars Littlefield

        Instead of coconut milk the bartenders use elephant cum.

        • MT YVR

          “The drink you’ll never forget…”

      • lymis

        I prefer the Collusionpolitan. But to each their own.

        • Bob Conti

          Well. Done.

    • another_steve

      If Trump truly had nothing to hide, he could have proved it with one simple act:

      Make. Public. His. Tax. Returns.

      • Chucktech

        Instead, Mueller’s just gonna have to pry them out if the IRS himself.

        I’m sure that will just annoy the bejesus out of Trump.

        • lattebud

          But if Deutsche Bank had copies of Teump’s loan files and the records were subpoenaed, they could get them without dealing with the IRS. Right?

          • Chucktech

            Unless the Russians are using Deutche Bank in a money laundering scheme and funneling money to Trump. I don’t know, but I do trust Mueller to get the goods on Trump.

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          I thought he already had the returns or a copy of them.

          • another_steve

            That’s the current understanding.

            Assuming Mueller has Trump’s tax returns, that surely affects the Republican establishment’s reaction to the Mueller investigation. They know what Mueller and his people know. That’s why the entire Republican establishment is now dedicated to devaluing and discrediting Mueller and his investigation.

            This will be lovely.

            Not enough quality gin in the world.

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            If I was Mueller and I was as honest as people seem to think I am, if they were going to completely shut down my investigation and try to shove everything into a furnace, copies of everything I had would be going to all the state attorneys I trusted & WaPo (the NYT has gotten too iffy for my tastes with its constant fellating of the angry Dump voter demo).

          • another_steve

            Lol. Love to you for “its constant fellating of the angry Dump voter demo.”

            Look, we all have to earn a living.

            Scum Corporate America included.

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            I don’t see the point of courting a demo that already thinks you’re evil and will never touch you while making the demo that does buy you vomit. On that point, the NYT is breaking some very basic rules of capitalism.

          • another_steve

            Thirty-two to 40% of Americans are deplorable Trump supporters, babe. That’s a pretty substantial demographic.

            Capitalism 101.

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            Yeah but they get stuff that REALLY panders to them like Breitbart, WND and creepy Jeebus preachers online. Lukewarm stuff by NYT has no flavor for them when they can get 100% lava from sites even crazier and to the right of Faux News.

            There’s also the whole story about a bird in hand being worth two in the bush.

          • Prost Seattle

            Reminds me, time for a waxing appointment.

          • another_steve

            You and I are talking about the paper, babe. For whatever reason. Doesn’t matter what reason. As are a million other people.

            The New York Times is a business. They don’t get publicity, they don’t sell copies. They don’t sell copies, the corporate sponsors pull their ads. The corporate sponsors pull their ads, the paper dies.

            All publicity is good publicity.

          • David L. Caster

            I would divide things up this way: ~30% are hardcore Trumpists. Another good 5% are going to significantly benefit from the new tax law and are kind of looking the other way. A good 15% are generally disinterested and uninterested in all things Trump and politics in general. Another ~30% are convinced that Trump is a crook, con man, bigot, and all-around trashy, overprivileged, classless narcissistic sociopath. The remaining ~20% have just tuned out, preferring to avoid the stress induced by seeing the whole Trump mess unfold as it has.

          • another_steve

            I agree with your 30% figure for hardcore Trumpists. That figure roughly meshes with the percentage of Americans who identify as Born Again or fundamentalist Christians. They’re Trump’s solid base. They like him because he hates the gayz, the blackies, the Jews, etc.

            The remainder of Trump’s deplorables are just mindless idiots going along for the ride.

          • David L. Caster

            Schmucks will always be with us. ~20 of human beings are born followers and will take most any kind of bait that promises to keep their stomachs full.

          • Charles Nelson

            A significant number of Germans were still Nazis even after the end of the war and they knew what Hitler had done and their country was in ruins.

          • David L. Caster

            That’s the nature of political cults. Republicanism has turned into a cult of mindless followers that will support anyone with an R after their name on a ballot. Denial of clearly observable facts is an indication that the GOP base has turned its back on reason and will follow demagogues without question even when it is against their best interests.

        • bkmn

          I think he had access to his tax returns months ago. Probably one of the first things he did.

          • Todd20036

            He probably does. But that doesn’t mean WE get to see them

    • BlackGayVeganAtheist
      • Jonathan Smith

        oh, so we don’t need to take away anything?
        tax-returns anyone?

      • FAEN

        It’s so tiny there isn’t enough to hold.

      • JCF

        In my years in NYC, never saw that on a bus. On the subway, repeatedly! }-p

        • Dazzer

          LOL

        • Miji

          I think they wanted it to be relatable for those everywhere and not just implicate NYC with talk of pervy crazy people. Everyone has them.

        • gothambear

          well there’s the guy who for years now has screamed and preached in French while wheeling his rusty cart up and down 6th Ave in the 40’s outside of our offices – you definitely move away when walking by. i think trump would be that guy but in broken English. plus i don’t want to think about him with shit on his dick… ;(

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    For someone who claims to hate the NYT, he loves being featured there.

  • Henry Auvil
    • Dayglo

      A 40-year-old classic! “Warm …Leatherette …”

  • Michael White

    For a paper that did the “Hillary is just as bad” what can one expect?

    • Jonathan Smith

      honesty? integrity?

  • coram nobis

    From the WaPo story linked:

    “At Mar-a-Lago, anyone who can get within eyesight changes the game,” said a former White House official, speaking anonymously to candidly discuss a sensitive subject, and referring to the club members and guests who sometimes try the influence the president on policy, share an opinion on his administration or simply say hello. “Everyone who is angling for something knows to be there.”

    So that’s why they pay the initiation fees and the marked-up holidays charges?

    • DaddyRay

      I wonder if they get to write off the fees on their taxes as a business expense

      • coram nobis

        Certainly they have views on the subject, and reasons to want to get His Greatness’ ear.

        Instead, Trump now sets up “a virtual rope line,” said Ruddy — the chief executive of Newsmax, a conservative media company — where friends like he, Marvel chairman Ike Perlmutter and local restaurant owner Lee Lipton come to say hello.

        Trump, for instance, recently chatted with Blackstone CEO Steve Schwarzman for 30 minutes after dining with son-in-law Jared Kushner and daughter Ivanka Trump, according to people familiar with the meeting.

        I believe this Steve Schwarzman was the one who compared the carried-interest tax to the Nazi invasion of Poland. Worth the expense to talk to His Nobility.

      • Jonathan Smith

        “IF”?
        Try How Often

    • Jonathan Smith

      can you find any other reason to join https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/72d82f6d739cacb5d37600ba849edea7afe0a27011ab278f78526627b46e8d46.jpg
      someplace where you might have to eat lunch in the golden palace?

    • peacfulseas inWA

      ” So that’s why they pay the initiation fees and the marked-up holidays charges? ” The only reason.

    • clay

      Why am I not seeing anywhere WHO invited in the NYT reporter? He’s not a member and his interview with RMaddow last night included that he was “taken” there.

      • coram nobis

        Probably lurking there and caught Donald’s eye. I wonder if the Blowhard in Chief knew who he was talking to at first.

        • clay

          He doesn’t get past the front door, unless he’s on someone’s guest list.

    • lymis

      Given that anyone with money can join, does ANYONE actually think that the membership doesn’t include more than a few Russian operatives and those recruited by them?

  • pj

    it was just more stupid don. weve heard it all before. if you want to dominate the news cycle shut up. that would be news.

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    LOL. The White House staff cited in that article sound like zookeepers talking about a drunk bear they constantly have to keep an eye on.

  • another_steve

    Who cares what the sexual predator says.

    We are currently fucked, fellow sane Americans.

    Fucked.

  • So…he doesn’t realize most of the news about his interview is a renewed and ongoing debate about whether he’s exhibiting signs of cognitive decay and rapidly advancing dementia?

      • Judas Peckerwood

        “…he can be taken advantage of – by Republicans, yes, but also by powers who wish us ill.”

        Um, Joy…

        • She’s trying for subtlety. Ain’t exactly working here, I agree.

          • That_Looks_Delicious

            There are still people trying to reason with Trump supporters. It would almost be cute if it wasn’t so sad.

          • Yeah, and it’d almost be amusing if every interview didn’t eventually circle back around to the unavoidable realization, “Oh, you voted for Trump and still support him because you’re an ignorant racist, xenophobic and/or misogynistic bigot.”

            Every damned time.

          • MT YVR

            As we used to say when one of us was trying to “flirt” with some new guy in the bar… “Subtle. Like brick.”

        • lymis

          Just because the Venn diagram has a huge overlap, it doesn’t mean the sets are identical. Somewhere there’s a Republican who means well. They don’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of being listened to, much less elected, but they probably exist, if only in some sort of Schrödinger sense.

    • Chucktech

      As long as they spell his name right.

      • Jonathan Smith

        Fucknuts?
        25th-in-chief?
        Inmate # 749752?

    • Jonathan Smith

      well, No.
      “look how presidential i came across…….
      where’d you hide my crayons?”

      • Friday

        “Madness in “great ones” must not unwatch’ed go.”

        • JCF

          Lear?

          • Friday

            Hamlet, I think.

        • lymis

          Oh, it’s being watched.

          The problem is that how few people in a position to actually do anything about it seem willing to do so.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      He just likes seeing his name in print and hearing it. It’s the P.T. Barnum philosophy of public relations.

  • Michael R

    Reality TV is a shitty form of government .

    • MT YVR

      I feel like if this were reality tv there’d be more votes…

      I MIGHT be slightly cynical. Mayhaps.

      • Jonathan Smith

        welcome to 2017 🙂

        • MT YVR

          I wish I could say : I just got here, whaddid I miss…

          Sadly… (sigh) I was here the whole @#[email protected]$ing time.

      • David Walker

        Really. I mean, I thought Jerry Springer was getting into politics.

        • Jonathan Smith

          again?

        • Nychta

          One of my favorite campaign era quips was by Jerry Springer: “Hillary Clinton belongs in the White House. Donald Trump belongs on my show.”

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    • Friday

      It’s a shitty form of TV and a sub-shitty version of reality, so why should government from it be any different? 🙂

    • Bob Conti

      With the low ratings Hair Furor has, he’d be cancelled.

    • DaveMiller135

      I hate the format, but in this instance I’d be glad to vote Trump off the island.

  • coram nobis

    I wonder if Gen. Kelly has read enough history to remember another off-the-cuff interview? The Kaiser’s 1908 interview to the Daily Telegraph may have been one of the proximate causes of WWI.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Telegraph_Affair

    [Prince] Bulow recalled in his Memoirs that:

    A dark foreboding ran through many Germans that such … stupid, even puerile speech and action on the part of the Supreme Head of State could lead to only one thing – catastrophe.

  • When is anyone in our news media going to figure this out. Trump knows how to get the press talking about him. He only cares about the attention. It’s how he dominated the news all over 2016. Other Republicans could barely get a sound bite on air during the primaries. He played them and he’s playing them now and his base LOVES every minute of it.

    • Friday

      If the press would do their job otherwise, his motor-mouthing would be damn useful, though. His constant lying just gets normalized, though while they still try to play ‘neutral’ about obvious lies from the rest of the party in power.

      • Bambino

        If shit sells the media will interview shit. That’s what the media business these days.

  • Jonathan Smith
    • djcoastermark

      Snark is fine, but, anything golf cap red twumpy thingies make me want to hurl. Violently.

      • Jonathan Smith
      • Cuberly Deux

        I can’t imagine putting ANY red cap on, EVER! Even if it’s mocking the MAGA bs….just couldn’t do it.

        • Jonathan Smith

          HELLO!?!?!?!?
          Do you have ANY idea HOW much time i spend on getting my hair JUST right?!?!?!?!?
          baseball cap……… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6548d412ce4852134be72eab10aac5d9b7bac104a0b2a916fd32adb03fd54d98.gif
          🙂

          • Cuberly Deux

            lol….those pink foam curlers just don’t fit under no hat!

        • Friday

          Yeah, I wouldn’t want to be mistaken for a Trumper even at a distance, and frankly, ‘Garments with writing on them’ tend to give me fits to wear them. My ex went out of her way to find me a black-on-dark color Obama top once, even. 🙂

          • Cuberly Deux

            HA! I hear ya though.

            I’m the same way. Maybe it’s because I worked for a short period of time in a custom t-shirt shop in the summer, a long long long time ago, we’re talking Keep on Truckin t-shirt times.

            When I see t-shirts with stuff on them I PTSD the smell, the plasticy burning smell, from the large t-shirt transfer iron. Gah!

  • Ninja0980

    They know Trump is leading them by the nose, but if they get clicks, they don’t give a damn.
    Don’t forget the NY Times help cheer lead us into the Iraq War.
    Coupled that with their need to do their both sides crap on everything and you’ll understand why I haven’t given them a dime since Trump became President and never will.

  • Davester

    It’s what I’m always saying about him. Would would really cause him to implode would be for people to start ignoring him. Of course, that will not and cannot happen.

    • Chucktech

      Not until he goes to prison…

  • jeffg166

    Your dropping dead would as well. Go for it.

  • Keith D Plane

    If you read the interview or parts of it it frankly scares the crap out of me. We have someone in the WH making decisions who is most likely in early stage dementia/Alzheimer’s. This as far as I’m concerned is serious folks

    • Sporkfighter

      Early? My dad died of Alzheimer’s, and he was diagnosed when he was far more coherent, far more consistent than Trump is now. (If I were Trump’s caregiver, I wouldn’t let him drive.)

      • Jonathan Smith

        except to change his diapers, i wouldn’t let him out of bed.

        • MBear

          “Let him fester and die in his own shit soiled depends” has an interesting ring.

      • April

        But didn’t you see how well he did with that fire truck they had on display on the White House lawn. They even let him turn on the lights and siren.

        • clay

          And that 18 wheeler!

          • April

            Big boy got to honk the horn too!!

        • Friday

          Seriously, I’ve seen him pose sitting in a Lambo it’s implied he owned. This was back when Lambos would *kill you* for being an ignorant narcissist. I doubt he had any idea what it was.

      • clay

        Uh, there’s no evidence that they do let Trump drive.

  • Dagoril

    I’m currently reading a book on French history. The similarities between the Drumpf regime and the reign of Charles X (1824-1830) are truly stunning. Forcing conservative ideologues into all levels of government, being tone-deaf to how increasingly despised he was… Let’s hope the trends continue ; Charles was forced to abdicate and basically fled the country, dying in exile a few years later.

    • coram nobis

      Yes, although it took the 1830 revolution to get rid of him — and France wound up with Louis-Philippe as King instead.

      As I posted below, this interview reminds me of a tone-deaf, even loony, interview Kaiser Wilhelm II gave to the Daily Telegraph in 1908, just as the Dreadnought arms race was getting under way.

    • Snarkaholic

      Instead of the Tennis Court Oath, we have the Golf Course Oaf.

  • Henry Auvil

    Ratings! RATINGS!! Credibility or dignity don’t mean shit! IT’S ALL ABOUT THE RATINGS!!!!

  • Lazycrockett
    • Henry Auvil

      Uh oh. Somebody’s gonna wake up on the wrong side of the twitter machine.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        I suspect, like others on JMG, that almost all the anti-LGBT stuff that comes out of this administration is actually the doing of Mike Pence (perhaps along with Jeff Sessions). They always seem to come out of nowhere and be snuck in quietly with no fanfare, only discovered by sharp-eyed LGBT & allied reporters scanning minor news stories. This is not Trump’s M.O. at all. Not that I think Trump is an ally; he just doesn’t care about us. Pence cares about us deeply, in the most negative way (as does Sessions).

        • JCF

          “Not that I think Trump is an ally; he just doesn’t care about us.”

          He doesn’t care about anybody not named Donald J Trump (Sr!).

    • JCF

      Whaddaya bet Drumpf is already denying that he ever ordered a Trans ban?

  • Dayglo

    My goal is to live long enough to see this asshole IGNORED.

  • GanymedeRenard

    Just luck him up already.

  • gaycuckhubby
  • FAEN
  • JT

    Dumb, demented shithead.

    • Jonathan Smith

      so, our president?

  • ClevelandJim

    wtf, thought the shitgibbon HATED the NYT?

    • Jonathan Smith

      well, only when they directly quote him………

      • David Walker

        …without editing, not that he’d remember what he said…

  • Henry Auvil

    This must mean the NYT isn’t “failing” after all.

    • David Walker

      He alone can boost sales and readership.

  • Slippy_World
  • Lazycrockett
  • j.martindale
    • dogdadny

      Thank you! Damn reading that made me feel good.

      Here it is:

      Thanks to Paul Waldman at the Washington Post, we now know what it looks like if you delete everything Trump said in his recent interview with the New York Times except for his references to collusion.

      “Frankly there is absolutely no collusion…Virtually every Democrat has said there is no collusion. There is no collusion…I think it’s been proven that there is no collusion…I can only tell you that there is absolutely no collusion…There’s been no collusion…There was no collusion. None whatsoever…everybody knows that there was no collusion. I saw Dianne Feinstein the other day on television saying there is no collusion [note: not true]…The Republicans, in terms of the House committees, they come out, they’re so angry because there is no collusion…there was collusion on behalf of the Democrats. There was collusion with the Russians and the Democrats. A lot of collusion…There was tremendous collusion on behalf of the Russians and the Democrats. There was no collusion with respect to my campaign…But there is tremendous collusion with the Russians and with the Democratic Party…I watched Alan Dershowitz the other day, he said, No. 1, there is no collusion, No. 2, collusion is not a crime, but even if it was a crime, there was no collusion. And he said that very strongly. He said there was no collusion…There is no collusion, and even if there was, it’s not a crime. But there’s no collusion…when you look at all of the tremendous, ah, real problems [Democrats] had, not made-up problems like Russian collusion.“

      If you’re counting, that’s 23 mentions of collusion in thirty minutes. That number is almost as big as the total number of lies he told. Why did the president spend so much time trying to debunk the idea that there is evidence of collusion?

      To me, there is abundant evidence already in the record that the Trump campaign sought to gain information from the Russians that would be damaging to Hillary Clinton. Trump actually asked the Russians to hack into Clinton’s private server, which would be a crime, and retrieve the 33,000 emails she failed to turn over because, she says, they were not work-related. Trump Jr., Manafort, and Kushner had a meeting with the Russians where they were promised dirt on Clinton. The head of Cambridge Analytica, a contractor for the Trump campaign, actually contacted WikiLeaks and requested access to Clinton’s deleted mails. Roger Stone and Randy Credico actually communicated with Guccifer 2.0 and Julian Assange to get advanced warning about what kinds of information would be forthcoming in each batch of leaks.

      Let’s start with the essential point that hacking into the computer systems of the DNC and the DCCC are crimes. Using a phishing attack to steal John Podesta’s email password is a crime. Seeking to gain access stolen goods makes you an accessory to the crime and perhaps also a co-conspirator or conspirator after the fact. I’ll leave it to lawyers and prosecutors to define the exact statutes that might be implicated, but if what the Russians did was criminal, and it was, then what Trump’s team was doing was also criminal.

      We don’t need to establish that any particular outcome was changed by this behavior. I’ve never met anyone who thinks that George McGovern would have won the 1972 presidential election, if only the Nixon administration hadn’t bugged a couple of phones in the DNC’s Watergate headquarters.

      Now, it’s true that nation-states spy on each other and hack into each other’s computer networks. It’s still criminal behavior. And if you work with a foreign power that has hacked into your own nation’s government computers, that could violate additional statutes. If you offer things of value (like a relaxation in sanctions, for example) for stolen goods, that’s another crime.

      It’s also wrong, by the way. The president has said that collusion isn’t a crime, and what he means is that it could be wrong and still not a prosecutable offense. But even he is conceding there that the behavior is wrong. It’s just that he’s incorrect in thinking that you can negotiate with a thief for access to their stolen goods and say that this is not a crime. If you know the goods are stolen, you’re breaking the law.

      So, yes, there’s a big theory of the case that seeks to explain why Trump is so friendly with Vladimir Putin and eager to lift the sanctions on Russia. There’s also a big theory of Watergate that the break-in was done to protect against the revelation that Howard Hughes made a big pay-off to Richard Nixon’s best friend Bebe Rebozo. Neither of those theories needs or needed to be proven for dozens of people to go to jail for various crimes related to the underlying crimes and the cover-ups.

      There’s a big collusion story and there’s a small one, too. The small one is already proven. Team Trump asked for stolen documents while knowing they were stolen. They made good faith offerings (a change in the Republican Party platform, for example) and dangled sanctions relief in order to entice the Russians to share illegally obtained dirt on Hillary Clinton. These are crimes. That’s collusion.

      Trump knows that Michael Flynn is talking to the Feds. He knows that Sam Clovis is talking to the Feds. He knows George Papadapolous is talking to the Feds. But even without all that, he should know that he can’t beat a collusion case just by repeating his dishonest and misleading denials over and over again.

    • Max_1

      Best comment there was from lessbread
      http://disq.us/p/1ox99mu

      When a foreign power hacks into your own nation’s government computers, it’s called espionage. And if you knowingly work with them in that effort, you are guilty of espionage, possibly treason. And like treason, espionage is a crime punishable by death. Remember, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed for espionage during the Cold War.

      For reference.

      52 U.S.C.A. § 30121 – Federal Elections Campaign Finance Law
      https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30121

      18 U.S.C.A. § 1030 – Computer Fraud and Abuse Act
      https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1030

      18 U.S.C. § 371 – Conspiracy to Defraud the United States
      https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/371

      18 U.S. Code § 793 – Espionage Act
      https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793

      18 U.S. Code § 2381 – Treason
      https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381

  • bkmn

    Dear White House staffers – when push comes to shove, he will shove you under the bus without a thought.

  • GanymedeRenard

    OT/ Generalísimo Francisco Franco’s only daughter is dead (aged 91):

    https://www.thelocal.es/20171229/spanish-dictator-franco-only-daughter-dies-carmen-polo

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      Still? Again? Just kidding. I’m not one of those people who think people should be blamed (or credited) for what their parents did.

      That includes the Trump spawn – they seem to have committed plenty of their own crimes and needn’t be prosecuted for their dad’s crimes on top of it.

      Also OT, for mystery/thriller fans, Sue Grafton died.

      • William

        Sue Grafton’s name was on the ‘In Memoriam’ reel at the end of the CBS News today. I never heard anything when she died.

        • That_Looks_Delicious

          I just saw it yesterday.

      • GanymedeRenard

        I agree to a certain extent. In the particular case of Doña María del Carmen Ramona Felipa de la Cruz Franco y Polo (her full name, let me breath), 1st Duchess of Franco and Dowager Marquise of Villaverde, I won’t hold against her the fact that she was raised in the Royal Palace of El Pardo in Madrid, or that she left a fortune of 500 million euros.

        I will, however, hold against her that she was the perpetual honorary president of the Francisco Franco National Foundation, an entity dedicated to preserve the fascist heritage of the homophobic, xenophobic, evil ultra-Catholic tyrant. She once even said that the word ‘dictator’ when referred to his father didn’t sound that bad to her. And she was greeted with the fascist salute every time there was a Catholic mass in honor of his goddamned father.

        _______

        Fun fact: One of her grandchildren, Luis Alfonso de Borbón, is the current Duke of Anjou, cousin of King Philip VI (the current monarch of Spain), and a direct descendant of both King Louis XIV of France and Queen Victoria of the UK, as well as one of the legitimate pretenders of the French crown (obviously, a moot claim since France is now a republic). If the French monarchy were resurrected, he would probably be King Louis XX.

        Dude’s kinda hot, actually. He was better looking when he was younger:
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e7b9a55624a37b3a65d7579c638c36e353c96236e80caa4e483dcc8d0048a61d.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/58ef2087971959ca24c52ea80767361a4bafef650bb9106941aad634a1e44e2b.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/06c3ea2dbf6fb8f6a1888eda834dfdbd8e88ef9e1ad32a6017ba90486e010979.jpg

        • That_Looks_Delicious

          Yeah, he is/was a hotty. My
          There is still a small party in France who wants to restore the monarchy, but they never get enough votes to advance to the second round.

          • GanymedeRenard

            Let it stay that way.

    • William

      Film at 11.

  • Bluto
  • Slippy_World

    I remember a Mill Maher statement early in the year.He stated to the effect that with Trump it’s like watching the rodeo clown screw the donkey while they’re outside stealing your truck .That has stuck -all these diversions and planned verbal bombs that he knows will get attention all the while ,they are packing the Judiciary, passing a tax bill that will totally reshape our government,gutting the State Department, as well as gutting the EPA,etc. Hes a master manipulator -the ultimate fraud and con man. Look behind the curtain to what’s REALLY going on

    • Natty Enquirer

      Yeah, he’s a con man, but he’s losing it. Let’s not give him more credit than is due. Everything you cited is on the agenda of the Right, which uses Trump’s antics as cover.

      • Lars Littlefield

        Precisely. I don’t see him as a master of anything. He’s rather mediocre, actually.

  • Michael R

    Russian tankers fueled North Korea via transfers at sea – sources

    The sales of oil or oil products from Russia, the world’s second biggest oil exporter and a veto-wielding member of the United Nations Security Council, breach U.N. sanctions, the security sources said.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-russia-oil-exclus/exclusive-russian-tankers-fueled-north-korea-via-transfers-at-sea-sources-idUSKBN1EN1OJ

    • Bluto

      & Jina is doing the exact same thing too. 45 has turned murica into an international joke.

    • clay

      . . . and Nicki Haley knew this before the latest sanctions votes.

      • JCF

        But hey, there were non-U.S.-under-Drumpf-sycophants for a Mean Girl to punish, doncha know?

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    OT? – Soooo…. when exactly is Melania going to get around to doing something about online bullying?

    https://www.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/946401576381505536

    • Michael R

      People should reply to him with a yawn , this shit again ?

      • Natty Enquirer

        Different day, same President Asshole.

  • liondon#iamnotatraitor
    • Phil2u

      …. should be a billboard on every interstate highway.

    • skyhawk

      Meh. Oddly, the Looney Tunes were quite brilliant.

  • That_Looks_Delicious
    • Lazycrockett

      Youd think a rich white man would have better things to do on a Friday night.

      • Jonathan Smith

        besides his bottle of Scotch?

        • jimbo65

          If only. He’s famous for being a vehement non drinker and nonsmoker. His amphetamine habit, now that’s a different story.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        Melania Ivanka Hope Hicks flushed his Viagra down the toilet.

        • Snarkaholic

          {Sung to the tune Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer}:
          Con the Chump and Hopeless Hick are fucking
          If his wife found out, she’d be in shock
          Not because the creep is cheating on her
          But why anyone would want his tiny cock!
          Hopeless Hick is so damned lazy
          All she does all day is sit around
          If I didn’t know her better
          I’d go looking for her brain in ‘Lost & Found’
          Chump’s always lying to protect her
          Just so he can have an easy screw
          And he tries to act real macho
          To hide the fact his I.Q.’s twenty-two
          TWENTY-TWO!
          {Repeat Chorus}
          Melania is now suspicious
          She found a pair of stockings in Chump’s bag
          But he managed to convince her
          That he hangs out at gay dive bars in full drag
          {Repeat Chorus}
          Con the Chump will soon be ousted
          That no-good lazy golfing slut
          And his name is now so ruined
          He won’t even get a job at Pizza Hut
          But he’ll still owe Pukin millions
          Which he’ll have to pay, or he’ll be “through”
          So if you should ever need to find him
          He’ll be turning tricks for just a buck or two
          BUCK OR TWO!
          {Repeat Chorus}

          • JCF

            “Hopeless Hick”: good one!

  • JAKvirginia

    Question: Why wouldd he do an interview with the, in his words, “failing” New York Times?

    • Friday

      Cause “Only Trump can Save Them, And Hates Them, and Oooh, Attention?”

  • jimbo65

    Alright Y’all. This trip through the mirror universe has been fun. Now will somebody kindly let me out. Anyone? Anyone?

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: I’ve been looking up ice skating vids after seeing the movie I, Tonya and this came up. It’s pretty funny and I’m scratching my head about how it was allowed.

    https://youtu.be/VHR0qjr79fQ

    • Natty Enquirer

      6.0

    • Lars Littlefield

      Needs more butt crack.

    • clay

      From the still, I thought it was bad computer animation.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        The footage does show its age.

    • Sam_Handwich
      • Nychta

        Dang, that was gorgeous!

    • TampaDink

      Gives a new meaning to “muscle shirt”.

    • JCF

      The final shot! ROFL

  • Lars Littlefield

    “I didn’t take any money from Russia! If that’s what you’re asking!!” — Flynn
    I’m enjoying Rachel’s summary THE DOSSIER A TRMX Special Report on MXNBC right now. I really appreciate the refresher course about who is on first . . . . .etc.

  • Friday

    Hey, Donnie, …you are verbally incontinent and your remaining hair is attached in a strange manner. Enjoy.

  • Henry Auvil

    My New Year’s prayer is to see Mueller fitting this obnoxious barking wig stand with a straight jacket and escorting him off to the looney bin.

    • David L. Caster

      I would say a few amens to that.

  • billbear1961

    The ever-so-valiant Democrats versus the tyrannical Dotard the RAT and his henchmen. Truly, um, EPIC battle ensues. (Good thing Mueller the Nutcracker is there. Not sure who Clara is–the women’s vote in 2018?)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDVZTFcAoUQ&feature=youtu.be&t=56s

    • Cuberly Deux

      There’s a German produced version of Die Fledermaus I’ve been searching for for decades. It was broadcast on PBS in the late 70s early 80s and it was wonderful. It didn’t shy away from the comic elements, it was so much fun and so funny. The performances were top notch and like I said, very funny. I wish I had the details about the performers and the orchestra.

      Do you recall this?

      • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

        The Bear is eating toast and honey right now, but he tells me he remembers it. He used to watch it. We’ll look around and try to find it.

        • Cuberly Deux

          lol….tip toes around…

          Actually, surprise surprise, I think I’ve found it. No joke. It was part of the PBS series of operas filmed as if they were tv shows or movies. Or, at least parts of them were.

          This was posted on Youtube in 2014.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY2Mw0LMz-E

          • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

            Tip toeing around while the Bear eats is sensible. We’re taking a look, while the bear is asking for more toast and honey. COMING!!!! 🤪

          • David L. Caster

            Perhaps you two might like to settle into this a little later:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvdVuQnuj20

          • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

            The Bear thinks that, generally speaking, Mahler exists on an altogether different philosophical plane. ☺️

          • David L. Caster

            I don’t disagree with that assessment, particularly regarding this work. It is one of the most significant symphonic works of all time and goes from the pagan to the spiritually ecstatic. It was designed to challenge one to hear all of nature.

        • William

          Make sure he washes his paws before getting back to the keyboard. Sticky is icky.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    Any worthwhile historian can’t just look at Trump and say he’s a bad President. The historian has to point at the people who voted for him and say they’re bad citizens.

    Also when a Jersey Shore reality star is smarter than the President, it’s sad.

    https://www.avclub.com/vinny-from-jersey-shore-knows-more-about-climate-change-1821652663

    • William

      I’m not watching that. Enough of my brain cells have jumped off a cliff this last year.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • safari

      But Donald is best experienced in written form.

      • TampaDink

        He’d be best if not at all experienced by anyone, ever again.

      • billbear1961

        When I actually listen to him, I can’t stop telling him, every ten seconds or so, to go FUCK himself, and, frankly, how I hope he’ll DIE soon.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: I have a massive hatred for Rubio because he’s trying to have it both ways.

    http://www.news-press.com/story/news/politics/2017/12/28/q-marco-rubio-recalls-fights-child-tax-credit-expansion-win/987296001/

    “Q: You voted for the tax bill after winning a key concession on the Child Tax Credit. Your view of the overall bill the president just signed into law?

    A: If I were king for a day, this tax bill would have looked different. I thought we probably went too far on (helping) corporations. By and large, you’re going to see a lot of these multinationals buy back shares to drive up the price. Some of them will be forced, because they’re sitting on historic levels of cash, to pay out dividends to shareholders. That isn’t going to create dramatic economic growth. (But) there’s a lot of things in the bill that I have supported for a long time (such as) doubling the Child Tax Credit. And it is better – significantly better – than the current code.

    Q: Was the Child Tax Credit a tough sell to your own party?

    A: I had numerous people in the think tank world, and the donor world and even in the member world who said to me, “This is welfare. It’s for people who don’t pay taxes.” So, we had to spend a lot of time educating people on the reality about the Child Tax Credit. It isn’t welfare. It’s directly tied to work. You can’t get it if you don’t have a tax return. You can’t get it if you don’t have earned income.”

    • TampaDink

      He’s a vile piece of shit. When he announced that he wasn’t going to seek reelection because he just didn’t like his job in the U.S. Senate, I was overjoyed. Then, of course, soon after he dropped out of the primaries, he changed his mind.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I’m hoping that his vote on the tax bill and an influx of very angry Puerto Ricans kicks his ass out.

        • TampaDink

          I feel certain that will definitely affect the outcome of the midterms. Too bad little Marco is set in his position until 2022.

      • Ninja0980

        I just wish the Democrats had a better candidate.
        Once the stuff about Murphy’s past came out and how he lied about parts of his resume, I knew Rubio had won.

        • TampaDink

          True….that was very disappointing but at the same time, Grayson had plenty of his own baggage too.

          • Ninja0980

            Yup.
            And that was the reality facing Democrats in Florida and elsewhere after having their local and state bench wiped out.
            We were facing beatable candidates but didn’t have anyone good to run against them.

    • Lazycrockett

      Has anyone even read this law yet?

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I bet more Dems have read it more thoroughly for campaign material for 2018 than the GOP who just stamped it without looking.

    • Max_1

      Rubio: that tax bill I voted for is gonna hurt a lot of people

    • JCF
  • John Clerkin-Whitcomb

    I absolutely LOVE what the reaction from Kelly must have been…

  • Treant

    I absolutely refuse to read the interview because I dislike vomiting. Also, it reflects the fact that we have a “government” in place that cannot police itself well enough to control a toddler.

    • Sam_Handwich

      i hope your home’s atmosphere has returned to normal!!!

      • Treant

        Post a frontal boundary and minor thunderstorm in the vaulted foyer, the temperature is back to a very comfortable 64.

        I’m still warm, but at least I’m not overheating.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Thoroughly Modern Millie is on TCM later tonite. An homage to Mary Tyler Moore. The movie ain’t particularly great, but, it does have an odd appeal….

    …and yes, I have on occasion performed a soft shoe version of a tap dance when when experiencing scary elevator thingys……

    • Lazycrockett

      Its enjoyable, plus anything with Julia is worth a casual watch.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Totally agree.

    • Treant

      I actually like TMM. It’s pleasantly zany. It’s not anything you’d watch if you want depth, but it’s a perfectly good popcorn flick.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Well, I have some Chex mix left over. So yeah, I’m all in for it.

        Then there’s John Gavin…..(swoon!)

    • Dayglo

      The movie’s worth a look. It has it’s moments but also some pretty crappy Asian stereotypes.

  • gaycuckhubby
  • Friday

    Why I never liked anyone calling this guy ’45.’ He’s *not* a President. Just someone lying about being one. Incessantly.

    • -M-

      Yes. The presidency is a job, which he is not doing and as an office has legal requirements that he hasn’t met.

    • Snarkaholic

      How about calling him ’86’? In the restaurant biz, that’s when there’s no more of something on hand.

    • billbear1961

      He’s the second president of the Confederacy.

  • Ninja0980

    Brrr..have a crack in one of our windows that has to be fixed.
    Until it can be (next week) lots of blankets for the hubby and I.

    • David L. Caster

      If you happen to have a plastic drop cloth, you can tape that to the window frame to keep out most of the cold. Use masking tape to seal the plastic around the window. Or just mask the crack.

      • Sam_Handwich

        i’m gonna get #MaskTheCrack trending on twitter

      • Ninja0980

        Have to try the plastic idea, thanks!

    • Treant

      I like a good crack.

      But yes, plastic, or just use packing or masking tape over the crack.

      In a pinch? Plastic sandwich or freezer bags, or even newspaper can be taped over the crack. Either will slow a draft.

    • gaycuckhubby

      Best part about winter is spooning with the husband for body heat
      #happylittlespoon

      • Ninja0980

        Yup.

    • Snarkaholic

      Can you stabilize it temporarily with sturdy tape?

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    In his next interview, he’ll probably declare himself king and Ivanka his heir then crown himself with the tackiest circlet ever..

  • Grant

    This behavior is precisely why I think those obsessed with the pee-pee tape are foolish. Even if such a tape existed, Trump wouldn’t give a shitstained fuck about other people seeing it.

    • Lazycrockett

      The pee tapes are basically whores pissing on the mattress that the Obama’s sleep in when they were on a Russia visit.

      • gaycuckhubby

        Not sure how much that would hurt him. Seriously.

        There would be initial outrage but I’m not sure it would sustain itself beyond a month

        • Lazycrockett

          It shows what a revengeful person he is, but its not as perverse as people are hoping. His base wouldn’t be bothered.

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            I think it’s less about the perversity but more about making the dossier hard to assail.

          • gaycuckhubby

            True… and people would be more upset that he hired sex workers than the fact that he hated Michelle Obama so much that he wanted them to urinate on the bed that she had slept in

        • William

          It depends if Trump had any clothing on and also if he was engaged in any sexual activity. Sex with a Russian whore, no matter who paid for it, is cheating on the sweet wife back home.

    • Max_1

      Not if Baron saw it… Tiffany, sure.

    • JCF

      Hmmm. Call me old-fashioned, but I think a physical pee tape (must have Drumpf, and the pee in question, in the same frame) would look pretty damn perverse in Middle America’s Minds (much moreso than a mere sex tape, Drumpf and a Russian whore {barf} Doin’ It. See re Anthony Weiner. It was the constant sexting, not sex, that did him in.)

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Lazycrockett

      Sessions is evil.

      • Sam_Handwich

        you’d be ornery too if you had to spend every day baking cookies in a hollowed out tree

        • johncAtl

          He’s also ornery because he could have stayed in the Senate and been easily reelected to another term. Now he sits in his office wondering when he’s going to be fired, or when Bob Mueller might come knocking.

          • Treant

            And watching a (stars and garters, get me the fainting couch!) Democrat take his old seat.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I’m hoping the ACLU get on this.

    • billbear1961

      Every effort should be made by every decent citizen of this country to SABOTAGE this VILE regime.

  • GanymedeRenard

    OT 2/ For those of you who are interested in languages, the Spanish-language word of the year, according to a prestigious Spanish institution (Fundéu), is aporofobia, i.e., the fear, rejection, aversion, hostility or even hatred towards poor people (including the homeless):

    https://www.thelocal.es/20171229/spanish-word-of-the-year-highlights-hatred-of-poor-people-aporofobia

    Welcome to the age of Trump and the plutocrats.

    • Lars Littlefield

      Eso no augura nada bueno.

      • GanymedeRenard

        Estoy de acuerdo.

  • Lazycrockett

    Im half way thru Call Me by Your Name and I’m finding it extremely amateurish.

    • Lazycrockett

      Upgrading to Hot Mess.

      • JCF

        Huh. Guardian had it as Best Pic o’ the Year.

        • Lazycrockett

          Ivory seems to still be writing, he did the screenplay, like its the 1900’s Maurice, which is odd when the story takes place in .

  • JCF

    Drumpf *literally* takes “there’s no such thing as bad publicity” as the sole agenda of his administration. [But since it’s easier to get publicity—any kind—from acts of EVIL, guess what he does?]

    • Juvela Bumblebee

      Well, I suppose there is no point in explaining “infamy” to him.

      • billbear1961

        nope

    • Cuberly Deux

      Well, my guess is he’s on such a steep precipitous mental decline that he grasps attention out of desperation.

      Today’s GOP!

  • Sam_Handwich
    • billbear1961

      BINGO!!

    • Karl Dubhe 2

      I always remember thinking, WTH did people buy into garbage like that.

      Now I know. Wish I didn’t.

  • DaddyRay

    OT: First episode of Black Mirror was ok, the second episode was good (interesting to note that this episode was directed by Jodie Foster)

    • Lazycrockett

      I haven’t watched and I have no clue what its about, but why are they in space this season????

      • DaddyRay

        That is just one of the episodes, they are all completely different stories (a futuristic Twilight Zone)

        • Lazycrockett

          oh.

          • DaddyRay

            They are also directed by different people

          • Lazycrockett

            I thought it was a serialized program not one off episodes.

          • DaddyRay

            They all kind of share the same theme, here is the IMDB description:
            An anthology series exploring a twisted, high-tech world where humanity’s greatest innovations and darkest instincts collide.

            Some of them don’t hit the mark but many of them are really good. One of my favorites is Season 3, episode 4: “San Junipero”

          • Dayglo

            “San Junipero” was a knockout. Sci-fi and importantly gay sci-fi. There were so many layers to that episode.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Um, TCM is following up Thoroughly Modern Millie with,Night of the Living Dead.

    Uh, Moore died this year and they couldn’t schedule something a little less…uh…well…

    • DaddyRay

      I was watching Mildred Pierce earlier on TCM – had been a while since I last saw it

  • billbear1961

    I wanted to post something here I’ve put on Political Wire (I’m sorry it’s so goddamned long, but I wanted to include all the arguments I could to make my point):

    Recently, I reminded PW posters that it is a reporter’s JOB to defend the truth, to call out liars to their faces with the facts that will prove they’re lying, and that to fail to do this is an abdication of a reporter’s MOST important DUTY. (I also said that to report on Bannon’s fascist techniques to mislead and deceive people without pointing out that such techniques imperil genuine democracy is ALSO an abdication of a reporter’s duty to protect democracy from irrational and hateful extremists out to destroy it. I also said that to report on Trump’s and the GOP’s and their right-wing media LIE machine’s efforts to destroy Mueller’s and the FBI’s reputation and to fail to report that they are doing this without concrete evidence, with nothing but innuendo [just as they did to Hillary, aided and abetted by the MSM!], and that there is every sign that the GOP is doing this to protect a very frightened president and probably themselves from the consequences of their very likely CRIMES [their obvious fear and panic, Trump’s henchmen’s constantly changing stories, the guilty pleas of Papadopoulos and Flynn and their cooperation with Mueller, the fact Trump knew Flynn had lied to the FBI before he asked Comey to stop investigating him and his firing of Comey when he refused to stop, Junior’s meeting with the Russians, with Kushner and Manafort present—ALL these things, and more, point to their guilt] and that these actions–these smears–threaten the rule of law in this country–are an unsubtle effort to obstruct an investigation and, with it, justice–is yet another FAILURE of reporters to do their jobs!) Two posters immediately challenged me—one saying that I was calling for the creation of a “left-wing Fox,” in effect, a counter-propaganda network. Another accused me of advocating censorship!

    Think about that for a moment, because it is tantamount to the following: someone is slandering you, and you have the facts to prove that they’re lying, but you say nothing—you let the lying go on because you’ve come to believe that to call the liar out, to let the truth be known, is no better than an act of counter-propaganda, or that to shut his lying mouth with the TRUTH is an act of censorship: he must be allowed to lie even though you can PROVE he’s lying! To call a liar out with PROOF he’s lying is no better than an act of counter-propaganda or an attempt at censorship!!

    Truly, this is the world turned upside-down. This plays right into the fascists’ hands: it is an “alternate reality” where the objective truth no longer exists, and is whatever you want it to be, whatever you say it is, no matter how FALSE! This is what some posters even here on Political Wire have come to believe, that standing up for the truth, displaying FACTS to stand up for the truth and expose propagandists for the liars they are, is nothing but a biased, prejudiced, partisan act. Defending the truth, which is as far from a biased act as one can get, has become a biased act (in the minds of fools and scoundrels). This is exactly what the right has browbeaten the serious press into pretending they believe, and it’s how more and more in the press are behaving. You need look no further to find the MAIN reason democracy hangs by a thread in this country!

    • billbear1961

      Someone replied to me that true journalism was the only antidote to propaganda. I replied that this was so, true journalism AND an effective opposition that still BELIEVES in genuine democracy; but that, all too often, indeed, more often than not, that is NOT what we’re getting, and that when reporters behave like nothing but tape recorders or stenographers, they are aiding and abetting those who are trying to destroy this republic!

      I went on:

      TRUE journalists would go after, and expose without mercy, the right’s media LIE machine. They would SAVAGE it with the FACTS–with the more than ample evidence–that PROVE they are relentless LIARS. Can you imagine true journalists from the past, like Walter Cronkite, saying nothing–doing nothing–about liars like Sean Hannity, Jeanine Pirro, Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, and the like? Of course, they would speak out against them, and against the equivalent on the left (if such an equivalent existed). They would also expose any politician guilty of relentless and baldfaced LYING! Can you imagine what Cronkite and his colleagues from the past would have to say about TRUMP?!

      To stand up for and disseminate the truth, to call out liars with the facts that prove they are liars, is THE primary task of ANY true journalist. Defending the truth is as far from a biased act as one can get: indeed, it is the exact OPPOSITE of a biased act! To call it counter-propaganda or an attempt at censorship is perhaps the most pathetic display of stupidity–or twisted attempt at deception–I’ve ever witnessed on a political site or blog!

    • Max_1

      In order to continue propagating the lie, it must be allowed to begin with…
      … And what better way to manipulate that allowance, but through guilt.

      edit: I grew up Catholic. I know guilt.

  • billbear1961

    Hey, my thanks to some of you guys for taking the time to read some of my long-winded posts!

    • Bryan

      Those last few to PW were amazingly well-put!

      • billbear1961

        I wish I could be more concise, but it’s a gift I just don’t possess.

        I could never tweet!

    • johncAtl

      Ramble on Bill. Your passion is why I read your posts. I do worry about your blood pressure though. I hope CJ knows how to calm you down. 🙂

      • billbear1961

        They’re consolidating power and are determined to obstruct the Russia investigation, and NO ONE is making a determined effort–one to match THEIRS–to stop them, John.

        Unless Americans who can protest–who are physically and emotionally able to protest and who don’t have pressing concerns that prevent them from protesting–get out there soon to make it CLEAR they will not countenance a FASCIST banana republic replacing their democracy, I think you’re in REAL trouble.

        • JCF

          Thank you, Bill. <3

          Just sayin', though: recently read (on Wiki) that between 30,000 and 50,000 Canadians ("British North Americans") fought for the Union in the (U.S.) Civil War. A heroic history to consider, no?

  • Lazycrockett

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/947000937528332288

    I remember back in the day when the police didn’t show up in swat gear.

    • Bryan

      I read about that, I still can’t believe swatting is a thing. It’s fucking infuriating as a nonviolent gamer. And as a human being. I mean for fucks sake what the hell is wrong with people. I kinda want to see some of these swatters made an example of. Like something SUPER bad, life in prison or death by firing squad, its gotta be something that’ll ensure that sick little fucks like that stop pulling their childish infantile drama into the real world. Stupid insecure fuckers so afraid of losing they have to cheat at a game by calling the cops/swat on someone? Only the most sociopathic and out of touch idiot would even come up with something like that. There aren’t enough words complex enough to express the full range of my outrage. I haven’t even gotten into the swat guy going in full Leroy Jenkins (we’re on video games, may as well) and zerg rush/Rambo the entrance before scoping the area and using a bit of restraint.

      • Bryan

        I’ve considered it some more, I think an apt and fitting punishment on top of prison and possibly the firing squad is to (while keeping records) destroy his online profile completely, every game thing he’s a part of, every membership he’s got, take away his digital penis avatar substitute and it’ll hurt his fragile snowflake ego. Then destroy every system he owns in front of him (after backing the data – without his knowledge). Then arrest him with the additional punishment being he’s forbidden access to the internet or any form of electronic communication or entertainment. If it’s got much more functionality than a toaster, he’s forbidden to use it. And then we give him life in solitary with no parole.

      • JCF

        “Stupid insecure fuckers so afraid of losing they have to cheat at a game by calling the cops/swat on someone?”

        Dafuq????

        But what LC said: the primary responsibility for a shooting, is the *shooter* (with or w/o a badge).

        • Bryan

          (I’m just questioning the logic behind it itself, the act just makes me wanna introduce some heads to Lucille)

          I heard it usually happens with CoD type games or MMOs, they start losing the game, so they SWAT the other person (possibly by hacking somehow to get their location). I don’t see how someone could…make that leap in logic, that this is somehow an acceptable way to go “I’m losing a game so I’ma call the cops on my opponent so they lose and I win” what the fuck does that goddamn prove? What’s it gain?! Even if you “win” you know in your gut you did it by cheating, it’s not like you’re “actually” better than whoever you swatted. There’s no pride in a win like that, what’s the point? I can’t see reaching that action and being satisfied with it, the step is missing, that “SWAT” is somehow the funny/cool thing, I can’t wrap my mind around someone even thinking of trying it, that it’d even occur to them to do.

          But then again I wouldn’t try to get drunk by injecting alcohol into by veins or up my ass either so maybe I’m just not infected with whatever makes these dumbfucks be dumbfucks.

  • billbear1961
  • Max_1
  • billbear1961

    Liberty STRICKEN! Only the intercession of Justice transforms certain death into sleep! Who will rescue Liberty from captivity? Not the godforsaken corporate press! Not a single cowardly politician! Only her prince–the PEOPLE of this nation!

    Awake–AWAKE and rise UP, before it is too late!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMR3iD4mQ98

    • Dazzer

      Bill, should you ever forget, I am constantly and consistently grateful for the beauty you bring to my life. Thank you.

      • billbear1961

        If I EVER forget you or your kind friendship, Dazzer, it will only be because my mind has begun to desert me!

        XOXO

        • Dazzer

          Dearest Bill, it’s very difficult to explain you to you.

          I read every word you ever write. I love your passion and I love your erudition.

          You put into words all the anger I can’t express for myself. I tend to bottle up all my frustration and you put it all there on the page. It’s a remarkable and admirable talent you have. You say stuff that I’m too inchoate to express.

          Thank you for that.

          But then you throw music into the mix. You and I will never agree on Wagner, but that’s the only point of disagreement we have.

          It’s a time difference thing, but because of you, I frequently go to bed a calmer and happier person because you’ve posted a piece of music I’ve loved and forgotten or I’ve heard something new that is a delight.

          And then I wake up in the morning and there’s something new – a treasure. An unexpected Faberge gift on a pillow.

          I can wake up, click on your music, make a cup of tea, eat a piece of toast and stare out a window while listening to something sublime, and all the time, the kinks leave my neck.

          You’re a rare, special and gorgeous member of the human race, Bill. Please, never forget that.

          • billbear1961

            You’re very kind, Dazzer–it’s important to me that what I say is understood, that it’s clear. I’m not always sure, and that’s sometimes why I go on and on at such length.

            I don’t think they’re going to protest, and you can SEE what Trump, the GOP, and their media LIE machine have in store for them, what’s coming. Their institutions are rotten. The Democrats are incompetent; it’s hard to believe that many of them aren’t passively complicit. A competent and determined opposition would make MINCEMEAT of Trump with all the ammunition he’s handed them; so would a competent and truly FREE press. Democrats and the press would HAMMER away, ceaselessly, about his business scams of the past and the OBVIOUS corruption–violations of the Emoluments Clause–now, about his proven and relentless pathological LYING, about the obvious efforts at obstruction–that, now, his party has thoroughly joined him in. (Despite the passage of this outrageously corrupt tax cut bill, from which he will profit immensely, there are STILL no relentless cries, from any quarter, for access to his TAX RETURNS and other financial records!) And they would confront the right’s LIE machine with all the PROOF that they are flagrant LIARS! That they haven’t done this for the past QUARTER CENTURY again makes it so hard to believe that they–many of them–certainly their BOSSES–aren’t COMPLICIT, that they don’t want to see the U.S. become a banana republic totally controlled by the gangster oligarchs. They are THAT close to achieving their goal.

            I can’t just sit here and watch Americans ALLOW themselves to be DESTROYED; but as a society, they SEEM to have forgotten that for a democracy to survive, they must defend the TRUTH! They do not insist of the Democrats or of the media that LIARS be confronted with their LIES, with the FACTS that prove they are liars and advocates of inexcusably callous CRUELTY in the service of the wealthy FEW against the MANY. They will recognize the authority of these moral MONSTERS and let CHILDREN die so that the rich may become richer. For this there can be no forgiveness, neither on earth, nor in heaven. (I forget where I’ve heard that formulation.)

            Americans can’t face the fact that, to save their democracy, they must REJECT the authority of a party which has PROVEN it is no longer loyal to genuine democracy and the American people, a party which serves only ITSELF and the gangster oligarchs. Too many Americans continue to treat a party of callous, grossly corrupt, criminal SELLOUTS–a party aligning itself with racists and other fascists–a party which is threatening the rule of law–which is placing fascists on the courts who will strip MILLIONS of their rights and place the rich and their lackeys effectively ABOVE THE LAW–as a party still worthy of wielding legitimate authority in a genuine democracy. IT IS NOT, and American must FACE THAT, unless the GOP undergoes radical changes soon and becomes a truly democratic party. For that to happen it must REJECT many of its current policies–particularly those which would condemn millions to needless suffering and misery and tens of thousands yearly to premature death–turn the criminals in its ranks over to the authorities, and purge itself of racists and other fascists who refuse to recognize the established and accepted tenets of modern democracy.

          • billbear1961

            I’m a pretty marginal member of the human race, too emotionally damaged–I can’t think of another way to put it–to ever be able to take FULL part in most things most people take part in and enjoy. I don’t try, anymore. I enjoy most things rather vicariously, at a distance. Every 5 years I become more reclusive than I was in the previous 5. I’ve told the few friends who want to–or try to–understand me that maybe the best way to think of me would be to think of me as they would a GHOST. I think that’s the most accurate way to describe myself.

            I’m really glad the music helps–it helps me, too.

            I think you’ve already heard this–but it, the first movement, is the piece that, at the movement, gives me the most JOY. It makes me forget momentarily my profound pessimism and the fact that people frighten the HELL out of me.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACI71gtbIek

          • billbear1961

            I hope maybe you keep a list of the music somewhere, Dazzer, because it would be dishonest of me to pretend that I can stomach much more of what I’m seeing happen in the States.

      • billbear1961

        If they don’t protest, they’re going to go under, Dazzer. The Democratic party is spineless, and the corporate press will do NOTHING but take snapshots of the right’s ongoing coup, repeat their wild accusations against ALL who try to stop them without making it CLEAR that there’s no foundation for their charges, that they’re deliberately undermining the elections with LIES in an effort to cling to power, that they’re obstructing justice and undermining the rule of law to replace democracy with a banana republic, a callous one-party dictatorship.

        Their coup is accelerating. They’re going to get rid of Mueller, or replace Rosenstein with someone who’ll block everything he tries to do, just as they’ve suddenly reassigned the top lawyer at the FBI. They’re already “looking into” the PHONY Uranium “scandal” again, and will appoint a LACKEY “special prosecutor” for that total, made-up FARCE. Their lackeys, who will soon have TOTAL control of the DoJ and the FBI, will invent more “crimes” to accuse their opposition of, in order to undermine the midterms. They’re only getting STARTED. Their goal is to cause total confusion to distract from Trump’s dementia and CRIMES, as well as their OWN galloping CORRUPTION. The corporate press will just breathlessly repeat all their FALSE accusations and never point out they’re full of SHIT, and that this is an OBVIOUS ongoing and accelerating COUP. The majority of the people will carry on in stunned denial, pretending everything’s okay and an election will save them–an election which will be stolen AGAIN–OR they will be persuaded by the right’s LIES and keep them in power.

        Those who WANT to fight this will do so with NO leadership, and will be denounced by the corporate media, all Republicans, and even by many Democrats, who are invested in pretending that the system has not been–is not being–totally compromised.

        Soon Britain and her oldest Dominions, the oldest democracies of western and northern Europe, and a handful of others around the globe will be the ONLY fortress against a FASCIST world, totally under the thumb of the world’s GANGSTER OLIGARCHS.

    • billbear1961

      They are consolidating power. The people–all who can–must RISE UP and force them to change course or force them to give up their increasingly illegitimate power, force them to resign, just as Icelanders rose up peacefully in 2008, after the financial meltdown, and forced OUT the government which had betrayed THEM!! Icelanders didn’t wait for elections to STOP the subversion of THEIR democracy–they exercised their Sovereign Authority as a FREE people to effect IMMEDIATE change!

      To believe that the Trump regime and the GOP will not do everything in their power to STEAL the 2018 midterms, after what you, as a people, saw happen in 2016 and after you’ve watched their ongoing and accelerating efforts to sabotage the Russia investigation, by smearing Mueller and the FBI, is pure FOLLY! They will suppress the vote. They will continue to stack the courts with their henchmen. They will receive help AGAIN from their Russian allies. Trump’s lackeys, who will slowly gain total control of the DoJ and the FBI, purging them of all honest employees still loyal to the Constitution instead of HIM, will invent LIES that will falsely implicate Democrats in “crimes,” just as Putin’s stooges in HIS regime manufacture lies about HIS opposition!

  • BeaverTales

    OT:Apparently, Mark Hamill got both accolades and criticism for his performance in the Last Jedi, but stated he didn’t like the direction the character took under young director Rian Johnson (Breaking Bad).

    **SPOILER ALERT** Do not read what follows if you haven’t seen it yet, but want to watch it and form your own opinion.

    Young Rian brought new life to the franchise, but didn’t seem to understand that a lot of Luke’s charm was in his mix of power and relatability….having him give up was not a Luke the audience was willing to bond with. Luke was bitter, unpredictable, manipulative, religious and just plain weird. Weird as in “grandp/ma is having another bad medication day” weird…the Jedi were always way cooler when they weren’t yellow-bellied chickenshits fighting their battles with holograms.

    Who says getting old isn’t for sissies???

    Instead of having Rey date the black storm trooper, he finds a new Asian girlfriend and they save each others lives running interference for Rey… Conveniently, the Sith guy winds up saying that he knows that he and Rey are definitely not related, and umm…is she busy tonight? is she DTF or what??? She already saw him with his shirt off….what more does she need? Doesn’t she know what a bad case of blue balls fucking feels like? Damn!

    Rian is not a Millenial director, he’s a gen-Xer like me. He shares the Millennial attitude that the Students can teach the Masters through being smarter, younger, quicker, more questioning and more risk taking. They all understand how the hardest work SHOULD ALWAYS only be saved for when your mentor is watching. While Luke was busy pity-partying, Rey was busy kicking ass and taking names.

    The kids either killed off their parents &/or were ditched by them. The parental units were bossy, short on explanations and whining incompetents. Rey’s young friends Fixed Everything&#8284 in Last Jedi by just being born supercool, the Y’s don’t need religion to fix things. They just need their dumfuk parents to either DIAF, or step aside. ….Damn!

    The generational hubris was obvious. Rey was flushing out the Sith and she didn’t need any jackshit drama queen advice from the likes of a whiny bitch like Luke Skywalker. Once Luke got the ball rolling, she could figure the force out her own damn self….easy peasy. Only old fogeys like Luke and Leia and Solo care about family ties. The young have a way of using the Force to do Vulcan mind melds, because that’s just what you do….

    Leia is in the hospital, dying and forgot to make a will. Well, the kids don’t want her money or title. They just want to torture all the oldsters and rub their success in their faces a bit before they finally head off to that big Empire in the sky…

    Scary Sith lord Snoke??? Millennials fix his wagon in about 15 minutes, accomplishing what their slow witted parents couldn’t over the first 7 episodes…

    Yoda says “who needs to save those dumb old books” and that “Rey has all the knowledge of how to be a great Jedi” after a couple or 3 lessons. The young people had far more intuition, gumption and courage than their slow-witted leaders.

    Several times they could have bumped commander Leia off, but they ended her life with a cliffhanger, suggesting she is going to play a role in the final episode. I’m a bit scared that some animatronic /CGI cyborg Leia will be used to mentor Rey in the same way that Obi Wan Kenobi mentored Luke.

    Yes, Rian, the old folks fucked everything up a long time ago, but the Millennials aren’t always as smart as they think….but dinosaurs gotta die…there’s one more episode left. Maybe they can get Patti Jenkins to do it instead??

    We’re down to one Jedi girl and one Sith boy who are clearly unrelated to each other and whose equally incredible Force wielding superpowers is inevitably going to lead to the bestest hate-fuc….evar…..even better than Charlize Theron and Will Smith setting the bar higher in having a non-rapey, super-mega buildup to their own hatefuck in “Hancock”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDv7iayBCEs

  • Rebecca Gardner

    OMG! The story dominated the news because he was completely bat shit crazy in the interview. This man is insane. No, seriously, he’s lost his mind.

    • Treant

      “Lost” his mind assumes he ever had one to lose. I am not convinced of that.

      • JCF

        I think he’s been a sociopath since childhood. But now it’s compounded by RAPIDLY advancing dementia.

        • Reality.Bites

          I’m hesitant to make a specific diagnosis (lacking all qualifications) but as an amateur i’m prepared to say there’s something wrong there beyond ordinary aging.

          • billbear1961

            One MORE thing the media–and the Democrats–could hammer away at to help bring him down, but . . . no. Miserable, irresponsible, grovelling, complicit SHITS.

            Can you IMAGINE how a Democrat exhibiting his “problems” would be treated by the press and the GOP–CAN YOU??

            There would be no rest between the ruthless attacks, and the press speculation would be relentless and breathless, the way it was when Hillary stumbled and was diagnosed with pneumonia.

    • Reality.Bites
  • Karl Dubhe 2

    O/T I’ve woken up early for a different reason today. The heat’s off in the apartment building. It’s not outside temp, but it’s well below what it needs to be to be asleep.

    So, Donald didn’t wake me up today! Yay. Someone come over for a cuddle?

    • billbear1961

      You be CAREFUL, Karl!

      🙁

      Have you spoken to anyone about this on the phone?

      Can’t you go somewhere where there’s HEAT??

      • Karl Dubhe 2

        I called the building when it woke me up at 2, the heat’s still not on. I’ve called again to leave a message just now.

        Then covered myself with fuzzy blankets, and am shivering in the light. It’s 38 below with the windchill right now. God fucking damn.

        To get somewhere with heat? It’d have to be later in the day, it’s 5:30 now, nothing’s open. I’d rather freeze to death than ask my sister for help, I’m not even sure if she lives here anymore.

        • billbear1961

          I think maybe you should phone someone for advice. It’s VERY cold, dangerously cold–AND you have the shivers!

          I think, in the circumstances, 911 isn’t out of the question.

          Karl, you need HELP!

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            911 would be way the hell too far. 🙂

            I’m on hold with the landlord again. I have a feeling that other people in the building are also on hold. Maybe we’ll get a month’s rent free. (hahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahaha)

        • Hue-Man

          Hospital ERs, police stations, fire stations are all open 24/7.

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            It’s not that bad yet. 🙂 The apartment is still above zero, water’s still liquid.

            Oh, wait. That’s the vodka. )kidding about the booze)

          • billbear1961

            But you’ve got the shivers!

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            I’m a wimp. 🙂

          • billbear1961

            No, you’re cold!

            You can use your oven, as long as you turn it off when the door is open.

            When it’s not warm enough, anymore, shut it and warm it back up again. When the light goes out (when the temperature you’ve chosen is reached), turn the stove off and open the door again.

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            I’d just woken up and gotten dressed. 🙂

            While I was wearing less than I am now, I was shivering. Now I’m not. It’s above zero in the apartment, still. And I can smoke weed here. The food’s paid for too. 🙂

            Now, let’s all imagine how someone like Trump would deal with this situation? 🙂 Would he launch nukes to try to get warm, or just light the building on fire?

            I can’t possibly leave until the bread is baked. That’s gonna take another two hours.

          • billbear1961

            Put a hat on–most heat escapes the body from a bare head.

            Are you wearing a coat? Several layers of clothing is best.

          • billbear1961

            Dump makes me so ANGRY that would warm me up!

          • TuuxKabin

            And it’s going to taste good, stoned and what not. Weed, tho, for me, lowers my body temperature, like to hypothermia, or so it feels. And that bread’ll taste good stoned, or not.

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            Damn, I couldn’t live up here if smoking weed made me feel colder.

          • TuuxKabin

            I couldn’t smoke it in the Yucatan, semi tropical. Must be a biological phenomena.

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            Some people can’t smoke it at all, some can at times but not others.

            If you don’t react well to the weed, better to find something you like. 🙂

          • TuuxKabin

            And I did. 😉

          • billbear1961

            Call a taxi and head for a hospital ER, or do you have an intercity bus terminal heated and open 24/7?

        • Treant

          Turn on all the lights; assuming they’re incandescent, they’ll generate some warmth.

          Close drapes and shades to slow heat loss to the outside and minimize drafts.

          Running the shower on hot will also help, assuming the heating being out didn’t also take out the hot water.

          Make (decaf) tea or coffee. That’ll generate some heat, plus give you some warm liquid.

          Bake something. Just don’t leave the oven unattended or try to use it as your primary heat source without very close monitoring.

          And yep, get out and head to anything open to warm up. Dunkin’ Donuts and any other open early/open 24 hours place will do fine!

          • billbear1961

            Tim Hortons!

          • TuuxKabin

            Lawd, had to Google that, I’d get in trouble in there. I just commented to someone via email, from here, the bathroom and kitchen tiles could keep BillBear cool. Skylights in each room. Brrrrrr. Good morning BillBear dollingk, and thank you for the music and arguments. Hope the two youse are warm and comfie.

            Hugs, from 2guys, Barbarella and me. They’re sawing the logs.

          • billbear1961

            Good morning, TK!

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            Ha all my bulbs are energy savers. The building claims they fixed the heat last night, I pointed out that it hadn’t been. 🙂

            I’d bake bread, I should bake a loaf anyhow. I’ll leave if it gets horrible. But really, I’m out of the wind I’ve got blankets and a kitty. I’ll be fine. Oh, and a candle.

        • Michael R

          Put a big pot of hot water on the stove .

        • billbear1961

          Oh, that’s right–no heat but you have POWER!

          Make plenty of hot drinks, and warm the oven up. When it reaches the temperature you’ve chosen, turn it off and open the door. Repeat when it’s not warm enough, anymore.

        • billbear1961

          You don’t have an electric space heater? First thing you buy tomorrow, maybe two!

          No hot water bottles, or heating pads?

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            Oh, yah. Mum’s heating pad. I should dig that out. 🙂

            Thanks.

            Electric space heaters are power hogs. I pay for the power, so I’ll not use one.

            Seriously, I’m living in luxury compared to the lives my grandparents had in this neck of the woods. They survived it, so can I.

          • billbear1961

            Well, Karl, you can get a space heater for use in emergencies like this one!

            We have a small ceramic space heater that generates quite a bit of heat for its size and doesn’t gobble up too much power:

            https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usedphotosna/45009163_614.jpg

            Get your heating pad, but be careful with it.

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            Bill, when I was younger I had a car that had an issue with the heater. Instead of getting another car, I started to ride my bike to school and work year round. Kept the car for long distance travel in summertime; winter driving in it wasn’t possible.

            I’m not getting a space heater, not when I’ve got a cat. 🙂

          • billbear1961

            Is the kitty warm?

            How is he or she doing?

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            Kitty’s fine. 🙂 Acting cute over on the couch, so he’s toasty.

          • greenmanTN

            Hmmmp! My being cute is NOT an ‘act!’ – signed, The Cat

          • Karl Dubhe 2
          • TuuxKabin

            Purdy Puddy.

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            He knows he is. 🙂

          • TuuxKabin

            You’re kidding me! =;o)

          • TuuxKabin

            Eggzxactly. Da’ noive.

          • billbear1961

            Be careful not to burn yourself on the heating pad!

            Once it’s warm, don’t leave the setting too high!

    • TuuxKabin

      If you have the ingredients, bake something, if you still have stove power. Warm up the kitchen at least, give you something warm to munch. Hope it’s sorted out, like an hour ago.

      https://www.google.com/search?q=biscuit+recipe+without+shortening&oq=biscuit+rec&aqs=chrome.3.35i39j69i57j0l4.14282j1j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    • TuuxKabin

      I’ll bring the B’s, Bob and Barbarella. El HubCap and month long now, adopted grey kitty, with target markings on her side. A gentle sweetheart. Both of them. Me, not so much.

    • Bambino

      Yikes! Toque and scarf. There’s where our body heat dissipate the fastest. Head and neck. Or likely the most ignore area when dealing cold temperature.

      • Karl Dubhe 2

        I really hate to bust that old myth, but…

        It’s not true. You’ll lose heat from any exposed part of the body, head too. I grew up in Edmonton, none of us live without hats in the winters. All of us are in versions of burkas when we go outside.

        • Bambino

          Perhaps it’s my laziness that I do not often wear scarf and toque in the winter until the last few years. Being in the central region we don’t normally experience deep freeze either.

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            If you’re under 30, you’ve never experienced a really cold winter. 🙂

            It still gets cold, but it doesn’t get as terrible as it used to.

        • whatever, dood. i am extremely temp sensitive and i know very well that hats, feet coverings, and hand coverings make all the difference. maybe it’s just perception. i don’t give a fuck. i do know, esp right now, that cold will wake me out of sleep, as will too hot. obviously nakedness is the answer to the latter, as is cold showers if you don’t have A/C. but in the cold? fuzzy warm coverings all the fuck over do help. i’m 1/2 Finnish. i know from this stuff.

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            I’m not saying they’re not important, just that that’s an old myth. You can go out without a hat, you can’t do that without a parka. 🙂 (I wear my furry hat when I go out.)

          • and i’m just saying you’re in a tiny minority of humans who feel comfortable in freezing cold without covering. good for you, you got some strong genes.

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            No! Not at all. I can survive the freezing cold. None of us are comfortable in it. 🙂

            But it’s easier to put on another layer, or throw another log on the fire than it is to cool down when it’s too hot. Summers are torture, and they’re getting worse due to climate change. 🙁

          • ice cold baths, my friend. i lived in Texass for 2 years. wow it was hot, esp at night. i would wake up, sweating and miserable, and get into the bathtub. no, i didn’t have AC.

            anyway, and i’m not sussing you out personally. everyone? get ready for a lot of new neighbors. climate change is real. i fled the south because of it, and i’m generally a ‘trend leader.’ billions of people from the hot zones will soon be your neighbors. they will be Blah and most of them won’t have much money. integrate them into our northern cool zones as best you can. tell them to open a restaurant; you’ll like their foods.

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            You’ll be welcome in my neighbourhood. 🙂 The nutters who deny global warming wouldn’t be.

            But by the time the mass migrations really start, there won’t be much time left for any of us.

          • canoebum

            I agree with you, but I’m fleeing to the south. I’ve had enough of winter. No more after this.

    • greenmanTN

      If you aren’t wearing one already, put on a knit cap or hat. A lot of body heat is lost from the head.

      • Karl Dubhe 2
        • greenmanTN

          You mean I’ve been LIED to for all these years?!

          Besides, I thought maybe you had a giant head. It could happen! 😉

        • TuuxKabin

          Ummmmm, IMHO, and poisonally? Yup. I’ve got two hats MadKniter made me, one alpaca, soft and snuggly, the other blazing red hot pussy hat on top of that. Keeps me warmer than not. But, to one and all, our own.

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            I’m not saying you shouldn’t wear hats, I’m just pointing out that that’s an old myth. 🙂

            Hats on a cold day are required, imo.

            If I go outside this week, I’ll be wearing a fur hat (that Russian style actually, with flaps that cover the ears and neck. Got it to ride in winters) a scarf, a neoprene face mask, the parka, a warm fuzzy under the parka, a shirt under that, long johns and jeans, with a set of furry boots.

            Stay warm. 🙂

          • TuuxKabin

            I’m trying. Wrapped in electric blanket. Feet off the floor – cold draft from the bathroom and kitchen skylights. Bathroom door closed, but kitchen open space adjoining living room. My favorite winter hat was, as you describe, but from Tibet. Colorful stitching, and soft fur lining. At least it’s daylight now. Still cold. But not dark and cold. Enjoy that bread!

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            Bread won’t be done for another 2 hours. It’s got to rise, then be forced to rise again, then be baked. 🙂

            I cook from scratch, whenever possible.

        • canoebum

          That article seemed a bit perfunctory. I wouldn’t discount the benefits of wearing a warm hat to improve your overall sensation of being cold or warm. I have 35 years wilderness camping experience that have proven it does.

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            As I said in other posts, I don’t. I was just mentioning that that original study, the one that said that hats prevented most heat loss, was flawed.

            IIRC, the soldier tested was wearing winter clothing, but not a hat. They concluded that most heat was lost to a soldier who didn’t wear a hat. 😀

            Not sure if that’s apocryphal.

      • whollyfool

        Wow. I thought so too.

    • Reality.Bites

      My place has a huge (wall-sized) south-facing window. If it’s sunny, as it often is on the cold, dry days, I have to run the air conditioning a few hours during the daytime to keep the temperature under 30

      • Karl Dubhe 2

        Sunrise is in another hour or two, it’ll be up for about 7 hours today.

        What you talk about doesn’t happen up here, not in the winter months. 😀

        • Reality.Bites

          I had a day here when I didn’t need the AC. Of course I could do it by opening the window, but that leads to the area near the window being brutally freezing.

          Of course I’m Canadian, which means I believe if you have to wear socks indoors you’re being discriminated against.

    • whollyfool

      That’s awful! What’s the ETA on the heat returning? It’s 13F where I am!

      • Karl Dubhe 2

        No idea. I’m out of the wind, it’s not terrible.

  • Michael R
  • Boreal
    • IDavid

      Gross pic

      • Boreal

        Well, tRump is gross.

        • IDavid

          Acourse! The pic just hit me wrong as really ugly tmi. No big.

    • Treant

      Let he who hath not petted the hamsters throw the first stone.

    • JT

      It would be more accurate if it was the other end, with them kissing his turds as they come out.

    • Renfield

      The balls are way too large.

      • OdieDenCO

        the balls aren’t big, it’s the sycophants that got small.

        • M Jackson

          Worthy of Billy Wilder!

  • this only confirms my sadly unpopular theory. just don’t look, as Lisa (Simpson) said. don’t give him attention. stop posting about him, or talking about him. unless it is in private, where you are doing the work of angels convincing regretful republican friends and neighbors that it’s OK to say they were wrong and made a horrible mistake.

    he really is the ultimate attention whore. wow i think all of us here know that one from our clubbing days. set phasers to ‘ignore.’

    i want us to have like the euro and asian press i read, here in murka. they talk about stuff like the environment, technology, biotech, interesting people making advances in all fields… i’m just fucking sick and tired of all of my fav lib political outlets going on and on about the syphilitic traitor’s blathering. i get it. he’s a morAn.

    • misterjack

      Thank you! So true!

    • Marty Pavelka

      Exactly!!The best way to deal with a narcissist is to ignore them.

  • JT
  • billbear1961
  • Gerry Fisher

    I’m getting this sinking feeling that he’ll be allowed to resign due to medical reasons and we won’t get to see him wearing his favorite color, orange. [grumble] Maybe Yvanka, Jared, Eric, or Donald Jr. in orange would satisfy me.

  • SilasMarner

    You mean he allowed the “failing” NY Times “Fake News” to interview him? I’m perplexed.

  • lymis

    ” Trump Is Pleased With His Loony New York Times Interview Because It Dominated Today’s News”

    Hey Donald, your impeachment would dominate the news for a generation. It’s be in all the history books. Go for it!

  • Galvestonian

    I understand that the interview (without handlers and unscripted) clearly shows that Cheetolini is totally bonkers – It’s not dementia because dementia is a diagnosis of a symptom. 50 to 70 % of all demantia cases are actually Alzheimers Disease per the CDC. Our Orange Hitler is most probably at Stage 4 Alzheimers Disease with:stage 4 symptoms: Moderate cognitive impairment (Mild or early-stage Alzheimer’s disease)
    At this stage, a careful medical interview detects clear-cut deficiencies in the following areas:
    1. Decreased knowledge of recent occasions or current events.
    2. Impaired ability to perform challenging mental arithmetic-for example, to count backward from 75 by 7s.
    3. Decreased capacity to perform complex tasks, such as planning dinner for guests, paying bills and managing finances.
    4. Reduced memory of personal history.
    5. The affected individual may seem subdued and withdrawn, especially in socially or mentally challenging situations.

    People with Alzheimer’s typically live an average of 8 years after diagnosis, but may survive anywhere from 3 to 20 years. No telling how long Cheetolini actually has.

  • M Jackson

    The boyfriend and I just returned stateside this morning from a 7-day cruise and out of bounds of the internet. We’re both eager to catch up on JMG and all the lovelies here.

    So, did trump say something stupid while we were gone?

    • Megrim Twist

      No, no, everything is fine. Welcome home.

    • kareemachan

      Of course he did. Nothing new….

  • Steve Teeter

    “The President’s cracking up” would be big news, yes.

    • Gianni

      Would we be able to notice any difference?

  • DaveMiller135

    He must be operating on some sort of internal “no such thing as bad publicity” drive. That interview dominated a news cycle because people were arguing that it showed how much he was losing it. Not from simple incompetence and ignorance, as much as from actual mental decline.

  • Gregory In Seattle

    So basically, he admitted that he is a troll: someone who will say or do outrageously inappropriate things in order to be the center of attention.

  • coram nobis

    A follow-up to this story. Two news outlets at Vox —

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/29/16829806/trump-interview-new-york-times

    — and Esquire —

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a14516912/donald-trump-new-york-times-michael-schmidt/

    — think this interview shows that something is seriously wrong with him. His courtiers may be abetting him, according to the latter, inasmuch as the Emperor may have clothes, but no brain.

    In Ronald Reagan’s second term, we ducked a bullet. I’ve always suspected he was propped up by a lot of people who a) didn’t trust vice-president George H.W. Bush, b) found it convenient to have a forgetful president when the subpoenas began to fly, and c) found it helpful to have a “detached” president when they started running their own agendas—like, say, selling missiles to mullahs. You’re seeing much the same thing with the congressional Republicans. They’re operating an ongoing smash-and-grab on all the policy wishes they’ve fondly cultivated since 1981.
    — Esquire article

  • kareemachan

    Didn’t dominate MY news. Just another diarrhea-esque blow-out from the shitgibbon.