Queen Elizabeth Issues 2017 Xmas Message [VIDEO]

The BBC reports:

The Queen has paid tribute to London and Manchester in her Christmas Day message for their handling of this year’s terror attacks. She said it was a “privilege” to meet the concert attack survivors in May and stressed both cities’ “powerful identities”. The monarch also remembered the victims of the Grenfell Tower fire.

In the year of her 70th wedding anniversary she praised the Duke of Edinburgh’s support. She said: “I don’t know that anyone had invented the term ‘platinum’ for a 70th wedding anniversary when I was born. You weren’t expected to be around that long.”

Surrounded by family photographs and a picture of newly engaged Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, the Queen said her family “look forward to welcoming new members into it next year”. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are expecting their third child in April. while the prince and Ms Markle will wed in May.

  • Blake J Butler
  • gaycuckhubby

    This queen has a message too… “Merry Fucking Christmas!!!”
    🎅🎄🎅🎄🎅🎄

  • Score on thie outfit, Bess. srsly, nice job. that is regal, comfortable, sparkly, and holiday. damn skippy xmas, your majesty.

    • i mean, she’s an audle lady, too. but i still want those beads.

      • stuckinthewoods

        She is looking good. She’s wearing the Jardine Star brooch and the link is about those “beads”, which I’m certain will look good on you too.
        http://queensjewelvault.blogspot.com/2012/01/three-strand-pearl-necklaces.html

        • well, fuck. i’m not the Empress. it would be fun tho. my mom taught me that in private? Bess eats fried chicken with her bare hands and swears. she only sits up straight when on camera.

          • stuckinthewoods

            The only personal thing I know about Lilibet was through my deceased partner whose friend Michael had been invited to dinner at the palace after some major event. At that event she was wearing a crown and the usual major pendant gems had been switched out. Michael recognized that and commented on it during their private meeting after dinner. Elizabeth said she’d had the jeweler do it specially for the event. Phillip was surprised at the trouble she’d gone to. She said to Phillip, “you don’t know the half of what I go through to be got up like this.”

          • Amanda B. Rekendwith

            It must have been the Grand Duchess Vladimir Tiara that she was wearing. Constructed in 1880 with pearl pendants by the Russian court jeweler, Bolin, the tiara was purchased in 1921 by Queen Mary from Prince Phillip’s aunt (who was the daughter of Grand Duchess Vladimir), following the Grand Duchess’ (and the jewels’) escape from Russia after the 1917 revolution.
            Queen Mary had the tiara adjusted in 1924 allowing for the pearls to be switched out for a spectacular set of emeralds (part of a much larger set known as The Cambridge Emeralds).
            The Queen has worn the tiara with the pearl pendants, the emerald pendants, and with no pendants, too.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b624a17233ee7d9420a9d64e4fd84b7931777de90819819725b26baae5dd5d70.png

          • stuckinthewoods

            amazing pearls, prior to culturing.

          • Prost Seattle

            She loves animals. Anybody who loves animals as much as she does is good in my book. Of course, she’s met a lot of people. My theory is the more people you meet, the more you like animals.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Merry Christmas – Happy Holidays everyone!!

    Prime rib is done. Headed north to the fam.

    It is 7 degrees here !

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9c6d74cf7c9c1a1198c35c0ec7a8948cb123eade5ad9b9baf0b10da2b54198c6.jpg

    • AJ Drew

      Wait, you pre-cooked prime rib!?

    • pj

      hello from Tucson and merry happy day josies. turkey in the oven, fam coming later should be 71 and warm enough for a dip in the pool. enjoy the day kittens!!

      • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

        Roasting a Thai style Chicken and Gravy to go with a Lee Lee’s duck here in the Old Pueblo.

        Happy Holidays to you pj, and to all here on JMG!

    • clay
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  • bkmn

    Our goal for the upcoming year is to not allow Trump to become a king.

    • Tomcat

      Or a dictator!

    • Harveyrabbit

      “Or ever allow him into the royal coach. Or Buckingham Palace. Or the country.”

      • Bambino

        It will be a million mice dragging a fermented pumpkin ride for the dotard.

        • Karl Dubhe 2

          Rats, not mice. 🙂

    • RobynWatts

      But he is welcome to be locked away and left to rot in a dungeon somewhere.

      • bkmn

        But of course

  • Karl Dubhe 2

    Yay! Queen.

    Wait, that’s not the band! /s 🙂

    • Bambino

      Nor Rupaul’s roster of winning Queens either.

  • Blake J Butler
    • gaycuckhubby

      Lol

  • houstonray

    Speaking of things “Royal family”, we watched “Victoria and Abdul” last night, with Dame Judi Dench playing the elderly queen.

    Great movie. “Abdul” is easy on the eyes too, ha.

  • JT

    “And we sincerely apologize for any connection we may have with the current occupant of the White House.”

    • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

      There has to be a clause somewhere requiring our government to temporarily surrender its powers to England when we somehow elect an idiot toddler as president.

  • tomfromthenews

    I know the royals personify classism at its most extreme, but I was strangely comforted by her message, poise, decency and humanity. The music was lovely, too. And for 9 minutes, I didn’t have to think about DT.

    • Igby

      Wonderful message from the Queen.
      What will our piece of crud come up with?

      • Chucktech

        Assuming he comes up with anything approaching civility, I’m certain he will go out of his way to explicitly exclude the fake news media and the Democrats.

      • Nychta

        He and Melania tweeted a holiday message three hours ago. I’m not going to post a link here ’cause I don’t want to defile this thread. Suffice it to say Trump’s delivery was uninspiring, and toward the end the message was riddled with Biblical references.

        • AJ Drew

          “riddled” indeed.

        • Igby

          And then he went golfing?

    • Tony Anderson

      Speaking as an Englishman, I swear no fealty to my liege, but as a person… RESPECT. Whatever your feelings about the institution she represents, most English people admire her as an individual.

      • Strepsi

        She put service above self for over SIXTY years – there’s not an elected official in the world who can say the same. Love her.

        • Tony Anderson

          And apparently has quite a dry sense of humour. When Normal Hartnell was appointed as her coutourier she invited him to lunch at the Palace. Slightly overwhelmed at the thought of the protocol he decided to follow her lead, so when she selected six breadsticks at the start he did the same. They remained untouched through the meal, until after the last course a footman opened the door and six corgis came yapping in. Handing a stick to each dog she turned to the designer and said “Well, Mr Hartnell, and what are you going to do with yours?”

      • MaryJOGrady

        She always struck me as a kind of national silent therapist. People look at her and somehow feel better.

      • jixter

        She’s had a job to do and she’s done it well. Charles, somehow, just can’t rise to her level of dignity and grace – but I’ll keep an open mind and hope for the best (when the time comes).

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          At least he isn’t the current ruler of Thailand.

          Yeah, I went there.

        • Tony Anderson

          There’s a lot of speculation that when the time comes he’ll abdicate in favour of William.

          • Ivan T. Errible

            And this is relevant to anyone in the 21st century-how?

          • Piet

            I can’t see that. There’s too much out there about how he enjoys the formalities of protocol even when it’s just family. I think he’s going to hang on until he can’t hang on any longer, and only give up to William when the lid’s being screwed down.

        • Allan_in_SF

          Charles seems a throwback to the graceless and unloved Hanoverians who reigned before Victoria.

    • jixter

      Me, too, tom. I was also busy enjoying the furniture, family pictures and decorations, while I watched. The Queen of England conveys more class and more actual American values than anyone, outside of the Obamas, that I can think of.

      • tomfromthenews

        I agree!

  • AJ Drew

    lolz… corporate Kroger grocery store PR employee tasked with sending out a holiday email is apparently just over it…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6a82b1d150224d48e1bcb5535054b9423b6299146c7717b337b673ee22d0cad5.jpg

  • shellback

    Class and dignity. Something we may never again see in this country. We certainly don’t have it now.

  • Slippy_World
  • TuuxKabin

    Something the Queen sings everyday, I suspect.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Sb7PpLoS0

    • CanuckDon

      And at 91, she does!

      • TuuxKabin

        My point eggzxactly!

  • Blake J Butler

    Oh here’s one of the Mar-lago ghosts right now.

    https://twitter.com/JesseRikart/status/945323010210385920

    • Acronym Jim

      Actually, I was very pleased with the job an official White House photographer did on the Christmas portrait of the current occupants of the house. She made them look like tourists pretending to be the first family who got their picture taken on roll of Kodachrome film that had been sitting around since the 1970s.

  • Reality.Bites
  • BlackGayVeganAtheist

    HERE IS OUR DINNER TONIGHT!!!

    Vegetable Wellington

    Christmas usually means a large turkey taking centre stage with lots of trimmings around the edges. Being vegan can sometimes feel like you’ll never eat anything besides a nut loaf at Christmas again, so we think you’ll love this vegetable Wellington. It’s packed full of vegetables, pulses and protein rich cashew nuts.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5ec01522742d17db48df1da44411334ec1fc126c430b10bd4ec7b48eefc5838d.jpg

    Sumac Tofu Steaks

    This is a fabulous meat replacement because the thick tofu ‘steak like’ appearance will also give you a hearty, meaty texture that serves as a filling main dish, whilst keeping it vegan this Christmas. The sumac really brings this dish to life giving the steaks their gorgeous colour.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f56476b97e7a566bebdb74ffef8ec235b271d400b3a07a51e2ab423f24822209.jpg

    Stuffed Sweet Potato

    Another twice baked recipe, this time with sweet potato, rosemary and sautéed balsamic onions. This recipe does call for cheese, but it’s perfectly easy to replicate for a vegan by finding vegan cheeses from brands such as Tofutti. Serve a plate of these up on your table and not only are they going to bring a pop of colour, they’re delicious, too! Definitely a snazzier take on the roast potato.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7ee0c6719043f229caff23af6a88af5b058c9406f3746197e5b550ade897f9fc.jpg

    • Bambino

      I’ll bring the wine.

      • BlackGayVeganAtheist

        Two bottles please…as my husband is a Merlot man and I am a Côtes du Rhône man myself…

        • TuuxKabin

          That is so appetizing. Thanks.

          Would like to turn you on to a Tempranillo, or cabernet franc.

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            I do love a good wine from Spain…has to be full bodied with a good amount of grenache and carignan

          • TuuxKabin

            Uh huh. A good Sangiovese from Italy or Sicily as well.

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist
          • MaryJOGrady

            A Primitivo from Sicily can be very good, too.

          • TuuxKabin

            Ah, yes. Thank you for the reminder. It’s on our list and if we can’t find it go to the restaurant we’ve been going to for 40 years, they stock it. Order Eggplant rollatini and a bottle.

        • Dayglo

          Remember, Moët & Chandon Champagne is a straight-up legit vegan beverage. Serve it at every meal.

      • AJ Drew

        I’ll bring my appetite!

    • Reality.Bites

      My sister and nieces are vegan. Are there links to those recipes?

      And I assume you’ve tried it – just how bad is Tofurkey?

    • clay

      I had some excellent sumac roasted Brussels sprouts with pearl onions the other day.

    • Steve Smith

      Looks good, sounds good. I have vegan guests with various allergies so today I cooked Indian vegan curries with basmati rice. Nice enough.

    • TominDC

      That SeriousEats wellington sure does look good.

      But every time I think about doing it… I read the instructions, and realize that I can do a decent beef-based version with far less effort. Laziness FTW!

    • Dayglo

      Turkey is overrated. There, I’ve said it. Anyone who thinks vegetarian or vegan food is crap should try Indian cuisine. True, they use tons of ghee but not every dish requires it. It’s all about the spices, people.

      • Reality.Bites

        Roasting large birds just isn’t a good way to go. Nor is roasting breast meat. Breast meat does very nicely when it’s in small, quick-cooking pieces, like a stir fry.

        During the year I often buy fresh turkey thighs and roast them. One hour in the oven at 350, doesn’t dry out.

        Many traditional Italian dishes taste just fine without meat – lasagna, spagbol (with veggie bolognese sauce) and cheese if you’re lacto-ovo or non-dairy if you’re not.

      • Reality.Bites

        I recently made a nice batch of weed brownies. I’ve already replaced half the butter with avocado, and of course can easily use a vegan fat for the rest. There are also 3 eggs in the recipe though, so I need to do more research so I can share with my sister and nieces.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dd28597f6ef3a98c317dfb70cc95f9ec8b9bdd651369e0ffca9a1fd2f27e725d.jpg

  • Brian Trumm

    She didn’t mention binge watching The Crown.

  • Bambino

    Seasons greetings from a legitimate head of state.
    https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/945324527520804866

    • AJ Drew

      yo, Dotard, Obama said Merry Christmas… again!

      https://youtu.be/6d7mTRaUmaE

      • Librarykid

        Amazing how swiftly those two words become meaningless sounds after the third repetition. I don’t care who’s saying them.

    • gaycuckhubby

      The Deep State, maybe! /s

    • Reality.Bites

      5 grandkids already? Damn those girls work fast! 😉

      • clay

        Alien Lizard-People, doncha know?

  • clay

    Oldest brother just called. All the siblings back in Kansas are meeting up a the strip bar this afternoon for crock-pot orange (stewed) chicken.

    Meanwhile, in Philly, I’m headed to dinner and a movie, after making a pear-walnut torte and pear-ginger-almond chutney out of the Hickory Farms box my sister sent. Middle brother(‘s wife) always sends the best– “pussy power”, “greetings from Resistance”, and “Putin voted, did you?” postcards.

    • AJ Drew

      Hmm… crock pot food at a strip bar… I thought my bio-family was odd… huh!

      • clay

        It’s become a tradition, since my mother died. First year, one of the dancers fell off the bar and landed on brother-in-law’s neck, so they spent that Christmas Day in the ER waiting for his MRI results.

        • AJ Drew

          lolz, um, I mean, how awful. ahem.

          Clay, you should turn these precious memories into a book, and screenplay, and then silently attend the screening of the movie with a well-deserved smirk.

        • Chucktech

          Ah, Christmas memories…

    • TuuxKabin

      Fun family there. What movie are you going to see?

      • clay

        I thought “I, Tonya” would be appropriately winter-themed and irreverent, but boyfriend is edging towards something more romantic (WTF!) like “The Shape of Water”. Sadly, “Star Wars’ Last Jedi” would infringe on the dinner reservations (YES!).

        • Bambino

          What about Call Me By Your Name? There is one groping scene I really wanted to watch 😛

          • clay

            MUCH too summery– would just put us in a bad mood.

          • TuuxKabin

            Oh I wanna double date with the two you. Especially if you go to the strip bar.

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            Call Me By Your Name has three stars: Armie (oh my goodness)…Timothee and the Italian landscape which is so lush and essential to the story…

        • TuuxKabin

          “Shape of Water” is quite a combination of romance, science fiction and just a lil’ bit of tension.

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            I enjoyed it VERY much…however, I was hoping for more of a back story of the “creature”….to illicit more imaginative imaginary…the gay character was a nice touch…damn good actor…

          • TuuxKabin

            Did you see “Pan’s Labyrinth?” Imagination went amok in that one.

            https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMfDtNnxuh8_GQdy_SrsWc_bJfnQaIQ3HT05fJIQkJ8Bwzc3lM

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            I LOVE that movie…LOVE it…

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            Have you seen his BEST work…”The Devil’s Backbone”

          • TuuxKabin

            The Spanish orphanage? If that’s the one. Yes. A friend couldn’t sit thru it. I wanted to watch it again.

      • coram nobis

        From my DVD collection, maybe get around to Star Wars: The Force Awakens. My go-to Christmas movie, however, is “The Apartment”.

        • TuuxKabin

          I remember enjoying the theme/musical score.

    • AJ Drew

      Whoa, wait… you made a pear-walnut torte and chutney from ingredients in a Hickory Farms box? I bow before you, sir, well done!

    • Acronym Jim

      While working a previous job in Portland, the restaurant on the same block as the infamous yet venerable Mary’s Club became very popular among the corporate set from the high-rise next door for their great food. That lasted until someone pointed out that, even though the restaurant everybody was so gaga for had its own entrance, it also provided the food that was served in Mary’s (in Oregon, bars and nightclubs must also serve food).

      Just as well…I was getting sooo sick of hearing people bragging about their stock indexes while I was eating.

  • Blake J Butler
    • JohnJay

      Trouble is, when Drumpf sees tweets like this, he likely thinks he is actually being praised. He can’t see the sarcasm through his ego.

      • Blake J Butler

        He’s a fascist, demented, demagogue he thinks that every single second of every day.

        And he has 63 million brain dead zombies to do that for him. not including the troll bots from eastern europe.

      • Bambino

        What ever fuel his ego is meaningless. Deep down he is a miserable s.o.b. that continues to express his unhappiness via his tweeter rants.

    • Bambino

      Cue Sarah McLachlan’s Angel…….

    • Tomcat

      Sarcasm or ignorance you choose.

  • Michael R
  • TuuxKabin

    Dog bless her. But, where’s the handbag?

    Ha. Prince Phillip has “done his bit.”

  • Harveyrabbit
    • Bambino

      The drawing is way too toned for that lump of fermented pumpkin.

    • JohnJay

      Of course, what she’s really thinking is, “Thank God”. Then again, she’s probably spiking his diet coke with something to help keep things down.

      • Reality.Bites

        Mirrors?

    • Michael R

      Why are they in the same building ?

      • Harveyrabbit

        Her contractual obligation.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      “Mellie, how come you never tell me when you’re having an orgasm?”

      “Oh, Dahnald, you’re never around.”

      • clay

        Donald– “So, did you, you know.”
        Mel– “Do not worry; I did . . . earlier.”

  • liondon#iamnotatraitor
  • clay

    Did y’all get your Seasons Greetings from this beautiful queen, as well? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b591f16463c77b9cf65c921f75ba44f87bd8b6afe94e057a609f237a10457055.png

  • Robin Prins

    I’ll bring the wine.

  • Hue-Man

    Something to look forward to…
    A H3N2 – in RED – is the strain of influenza that was deadly in Australia during their winter 2017. Do as your mother told you and wash your hands frequently.
    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fc212f9970a92d4de4dbcb36f43a64be1f048c25184192677edfedc820230a3c.gif

    • Dazzer

      I can promise you, the Australian flu strain has already mutated.

      I was inoculated against Australian flu a couple of months ago. But I’m just coming through one of the worst bouts of flu I’ve ever had. At least twice in the last ten days, I felt so awful that I was convinced I was going to die.

  • houstonray

    Not sure if anyone posted this but sad news…we need all our activists, we are all stronger as one.

    Erica Garner in ‘grave condition’ after suffering heart attack

    US news

    The activist and oldest daughter of Eric Garner, the Staten Island man who died after an NYPD officer put him in a chokehold in 2014, is on life support in ICU in a Brooklyn hospital, according to her family.

    • Blake J Butler

      Im sad and do not wish this on someone especially a mother to a child.

      Her activism and the tactics she approves of is less than to be desired that’s all I’m going to say.

      I say this because it was only weeks ago that I criticized her activism on those merits and didn’t until I saw that in my feed that she was gravely and the outlook grim. A shitty thing to happen especially on Christmas Eve.

  • jeffg166

    That reminded me to get the tenth season of Doctor who from the library. The Christmas special will be on tonight.

    • houstonray

      Is tonight “the big episode”?

      • AJ Drew

        Jodie! May 13 be a lucky iteration… we’ll see…

      • jeffg166

        At the end he will regenerate and become a woman.

      • Reality.Bites

        Yes, it was surprisingly emotional.

        If it were up to me, however, instead of the new Doctor getting a minute or two at most, I’d like regenerations to be followed by a new episode with the new Doctor, instead of having to wait months.

        The new Doctor will make for interesting pronoun use. She isn’t trans (or human for that matter). This Doctor is a woman. The previous ones were male.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: Are you surprised? I’m not.

    https://www.gq.com/story/ivanka-trump-jewelry-business

    “Thanks to an overlooked filing made in federal court this past summer, we can now add a jewelry business to the list of Trump family enterprises that allegedly served as vehicles to fraudulently hide the assets of ultra-rich foreigners with checkered backgrounds. In late June, the Commercial Bank of Dubai sought—and later received—permission to subpoena Ivanka Trump’s now-defunct fine jewelry line, claiming its diamonds were used in a massive scheme to hide roughly $100 million that was owed to the bank, according to filings at the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York.”

    • TuuxKabin

      ‘Madame of the house, wonderin’ when it’s gonna stop.’

      There’s no end to their deception.

      Come on Mueller, come on.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        Is it too much to hope she gets jail time too and that people stop having “Rose Armitage” syndrome for once?

        • TuuxKabin

          It’s the least we could hope for. The jail time. The Rose thing, I’m too tired to Google, but I take it to be an orthodontic condition? I’m sleepy.

    • stuckinthewoods

      Makes perfect sense. Large gems would be a good place to launder money. High value, portable, most aren’t recognizably unique like a Leonardo, you could alter the shape to disguise the stone.
      I was a gem cutter and recently tried to buy some gold at a major refiner nearby, just to make some trinkets, maybe sell my scrap metal. I used to just walk up to their window and get what I needed, and did stone work for some of their employees, but was told I could no longer buy without a business license due to money laundering issues. Haven’t read of that in the gem market so this sounds like Trump’s exploiting a flaw.

  • Blake J Butler
    • Friday

      Guess they weren’t feeling so ‘assaulted.’ Since the only people ‘assaulting a phrase’ have been Christian Righties trying to turn something cheerful into a way to be nasty to non-Christians and demand everyone pretend simple holiday greetings are some political litmus test of religious conformity.

  • Reality.Bites
    • AJ Drew

      I hate Alexa eavesdropping all the time, but “she” is never wrong about what time it is anywhere. So, there’s that. Aw crap, the echo device just woke up… can it know the sound of me even typing “Alexa” ? Hmm. /s (maybe)

      • Reality.Bites

        Siri isn’t wrong. He just assumes I want the London that’s a 2-hour-drive away. However if he was smarter, he’d also realize I’m unlikely to ask the time in a place in the same time zone as me!

    • Hue-Man

      Dr. Who Christmas is on Space Channel in Canada tonight at 9 EST/6 PST. I assume it will also be available shortly after on their website.
      https://www.space.ca/show/doctor-who/

      Is Siri bilingue? If so, you could ask the time in Londres without ambiguity.
      “Quelle heure est-il à Londres?”

    • Canadian Observer

      London, Ontario, been there, done that, didn’t bother with the Tshirt.

    • coram nobis

      Rick: If it’s December 1941 in Casablanca, what time is it in New York?

      Sam: What? My watch stopped.

      Rick: I’d bet they’re asleep in New York. I’d bet they’re asleep all over America.
      — “Casablanca”

  • bkmn

    Puerto Rico’s governor is gunning to boot Republicans out of office.

    https://twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/status/945337108528615424

    • Blake J Butler

      He should mobilize Puerto Rican’s to move to the swing states and get the rights they rightfully deserve and also to reject the legislative assholes that put them in the hellish nightmare they live in in the aftermath of Maria.

      • bkmn

        Hundreds of thousands have already moved, many to Florida, Georgia and Texas. Those three states could turn blue a lot faster because of this migration.

        • Blake J Butler

          I know i’ve heard about Florida but not from Texas or Georgia, what are the sources for their most current numbers ?

          • Librarykid

            Sort of bites the GOP in the ass for discriminating in hurricane aid, no?

          • bkmn

            Per this LATimes article the states with the largest PR populations before the hurricanes were FL, IL, PA and NY and many are likely to resettle near relatives or in adjacent states. I had included TX just because both Houston and Dallas are magnets for immigration. From the article New Orleans could also see a significant number.

            http://beta.latimes.com/nation/la-na-puerto-rico-orlando-20171010-story.html

      • Reality.Bites

        As important as voting is, I expect Puerto Ricans will move to places where they already have friends or relatives where possible.

    • Allan_in_SF

      And can we please have Carmen Yulin Cruz as President? I’ve been wanting her for a while now.

  • Rebecca Gardner
    • clay

      But are they drinking our milkshake?

      • Halou

        Our milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.

    • Reality.Bites

      OK, but manufacturing is dying in the US. Most western countries, including the US, have been transitioning to a service and resource based economy for quite some time.

      It’s silly of the writer to pretend there’s a damn thing Trump or anyone else can do to reverse the trend.

      • Friday

        I’ve always thought it was foolish to outsource manufacturing just because someone else could ostensibly do it cheaper and better. We should have gone back to making things to *last* and stopped insisting we couldn’t be beat at overconsumption, notably in things like the automotive and appliance industries. Textiles and garments, etc, If labor costs more, use the labor for higher end stuff instead of planned obsolescence and stuff. Now consumers pay full price for junk because there isn’t domestic stuff for *China* to have to to compete with, and China just charges what the market can bear, while *our* real wages go to paying the same or more to get less.

        ie, adding value and paying your workers, instead of some company selling off resources and people getting paid little to sell someone else’s products back to us. That’s what colonialism used to do to *colonies.*

        • Reality.Bites

          Regardless of what the US could have chosen to do in the past, it still wouldn’t make South America buy from them.

          Pretending the rest of the world doesn’t exist, or pretending that only the part you like exist, is not a realistic way to run an economy.

          Zenith was (I think) the last US TV maker, but most people considered Japanese TVs better (and they were.) Even if you raised tariffs to stop it, you sure couldn’t make the rest of the world buy your crap. But you could encourage smuggling.

          What you do – what every other country BUT you does – is prepare your people for the changes. You don’t go out of your way to create the most ill-educated, violent, drugged, armed, racist population you possibly can.

          You needed 20 more years of Obama-type policies. And you needed them starting in the 1960s and 70s when everyone else had them.

          • Friday

            What I’m saying is that in fact, facets of the ‘service’ economy, like *advertising* don’t make up for just plain not making as good of stuff in the first place. (There you spend lots of money on trying to drive up demand for things that *aren’t* as good, and that just can’t work long.) If we couldn’t do better *cheaper,* we should have done better *better,* kept our own wages up, and maintained/improved our manufacturing infrastructure as well as domestic *real* economy.

            My claims there have nothing to do with what you’re yelling at done by multinationals owing American companies while blaming the unions when the rising productivity wasn’t translating to sales. And I’m not being isolationist here, but you *do* need a balance of self-sufficiency *in* a global economy if you don’t want to end up trying to base an economy on selling things to each other that you’re exporting resources to buy back from someone else’s cut-rate labor forces. If we’d maintaned our own manufacturing base, yes, back when I was saying this twenty five years ago, instead of union-busting and selling gas-guzzlers based on finance arms in an economic bubble like under Dubya, we’d have more to work *with* and be less beholden to the kinds of Fundie/greedy resource magnates that fund all this social anger and destabilization, eventually giving us the Trumpublicans trying to loot the remains.

        • William

          Germany has managed to keep a strong manufacturing sextot in a changing economy. They also have universal health care and unions. The US should look o them as an example.

          By the way, I still have my ‘Made in West Germany’ toaster. It is at least 27 years old.

          • Friday

            They’re an example of just going higher-end on quality and not worrying too much if they couldn’t outsell cheaper products in say, the American market. (And when they did they ended up cheating on diesel emissions testing and nearly going bust.)

    • Halou

      Naturally.

  • greenmanTN

    In honor of the season and Joe’s heartwarming message of yesterday, I thought I would share some of my cherished Christmas memories…

    As a small child my parents gave me a beautiful painted roller coaster made out of tin. It sat on a folded tin box. My brother rolled his new bowling ball into it while I was holding it, the bottom of the folded tin base didn’t have rolled bottom edges so it sliced deep into my fingers. My dad stomped on it, spanked my brother, and rushed me to the emergency room for stitches. If you look closely you can still see the scars.

    Christmas Eve was always held at my aunt and uncle’s house. After a potluck dinner gifts would be exchanged, then the kids would go downstairs to the finished basement. The door to the basement was flush with the top step, so a short (young) person was standing 6 or 7 inches below the bottom of the door reaching up for the handle if they wanted to go upstairs. The door also opened out over the stairs, so you had to hope no one opened the door while you were standing there or you would get knocked down the stairs. I got knocked down the stair three Christmases in a row.

    On the way home from Xmas eve, when I was 9, I told my parents I didn’t believe in Santa Claus anymore. They said fine, then I wouldn’t get my “Santa presents” then and they could take them back. I pitched a fit, told them that wasn’t fair, I hated them, and I was never going to tell them the truth about anything ever again. They were joking of course, and I got my presents anyway, despite being a little asshole.

    Ho Ho Ho, Merry Christmas!!!

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Merry Christmas, greenmanTN! (Have you ever told them the truth about anything, ever again?) 🙂

      • greenmanTN

        Not often.

        • Phillip in L.A.

          Good for you!

  • Dayglo

    M’lady’s on fleek.

  • Jay George
  • Halou

    Now if only America’s head of state could be so well spoken and kind.

    • JAKvirginia

      Didn’t you see Obama’s message? Oh, you meant the other….. nevermind.

  • Robincho

    Dear Donald Dump:

    You’re losing the Merry Christmas War here, as I do not care for the phrase. As you will note in my Message for 2017, I say “Peaceful and Happy Christmas.” Oh, and you’re still disinvited to the UK.

    Sincerely,
    E II R

  • Halou

    OT: Every christmas for the last 5 or so years I get a picture from one of my friends in Slovenia, it is a screen capture of a facebook message I sent to him in 2009 wishing him a merry christmas. It’s nice of him and I get why he does it, but every time I feel sad because my memory is not as good as it ideally could be. Can’t help but think I’ve forgotten some of the good times we’ve had together.

  • JAKvirginia

    Call me silly, but that pic of her? That’s what you call regal. England and the Commonwealth, you are so lucky to have had this person for all these years. I will weep when she departs this earth.

    • marshlc

      As a Canadian, the royal family doesn’t really have any day to day impact on my life, but, really, I’m OK with saying, “Yes, she is my queen”.

  • andrew

    Elizabeth has been the monarch for over 65 years, with rarely a misstep. That is a life well lived. She is probably the main reason that the British Monarchy survives and thrives.

  • royinhell

    Her first broadcast 60 years ago:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBRP-o6Q85s

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      This documentary on the history of the Christmas Broadcast was interesting:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9eh0Myriy4

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      On the series “The Crown”, they depict her as quite incensed at having to do it on TV.

  • GanymedeRenard

    Praising your philo-Nazi husband won’t turn your anti-monarchy ‘subjects’ into pro-monarchy ones, Ma’am – on the contrary. Sorry, but your message is just a number of waves of privileged air. BTW, the only queen I admire in your periphery is Panty Bliss, queen of Ireland.

  • Genshed

    Elizabeth II, the hardest working woman in show business. I’m glad she has had a long and happy marriage.

  • elias

    Elizabeth II, the hardest working woman in show business. I’m glad she has had a long and happy marriage.

  • Lazycrockett

    She should have told Margaret bout Tony sleeping with men when she had the chance.

  • Willys41

    Nice to hear from a leader who can actually like a leader, with thought and dignity.

  • Itsatarp

    She is so unbelievably white she’s almost translucent.

    • bzrd

      How old are you? As we age our skin thins thus it almost looks like it’s not there at times as the veins show through and other stuff. She’s 91 and puts the Resident Nazi to shame with her mental capacity and grace. Always wear a hat outside to protect from the ultra violet rays, saves the eyes, too.

      • Reality.Bites

        Do you mean the one resident in the US or the one residing with her?

        • bzrd

          the White House is the home of our President but we have the Resident Nazi instead, and hopefully Mueller will show the russkis assisted him in becoming said Resident

  • Mrs. Councillor Nugent

    “. . .and I’m still making Chuck wait.”

  • MassageBear

    Donald and Melania Trump want you to know that they WOULD have liked to wish you a Merry Christmas today. Unfortunately, they’re busy right now talking with their accountants, who are hard at work calculating how many millions of dollars the Trumps will save with the #GOPTaxScam. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b5a96645765f99e102cce2a365dc4ac4d9295d449e6640feb677c0b9cfe285f0.jpg

  • coram nobis

    BTW, on tonight’s PBS NewsHour, Harvey Srinavasan interviews Tony Perkins about the War on Christmas. I’m not kidding.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-the-war-on-christmas-became-a-political-rallying-cry

    Joe, you really have to take a swing at this one.

  • MassageBear
  • Smith_90125

    Lizardbreath STILL hasn’t keeled over yet?

    If a “king ralph” scenario or meteor hit did the same, the UK and much of the world would be better off. What a waste of time and money they are.

  • billbear1961