Russia Warns US Over Providing Missiles To Ukraine

The Washington Post reports:

Russian officials said Sunday that the U.S. decision to supply Ukraine with lethal weapons to combat Russian-backed separatists will cause new bloodshed, as long-standing tensions between Washington and Moscow escalated over the four-year-old conflict.

Moscow’s admonition came shortly after the State Department announced Friday evening that the United States will provide heavy armaments to Ukraine for the first time, a step up from the support equipment and training offered so far.

“By deciding to arm Ukraine with lethal weapons, the United States is giving a clear signal to Kyiv that it will support an attempt at a military solution,” Alexei Pushkov, a member of the defense and security committee of the upper house of the Russian parliament, tweeted on Saturday.

  • margaretpoa

    Posturing. See? There can’t be any collusion! We disagree over Ukraine!

    • Todd20036

      Trump couldn’t even spell “Ukraine”.

      • margaretpoa

        Sure he can! Yoo, Yuke You Crane.

      • Bluto

        All Ukrainians are aids infested terrorists living in huts.

        • margaretpoa

          Not to mention snowflakes and fake Jews.

          • HanyBaal

            No they addressed the Jewish question them at Babi Yar

        • bzrd

          and You-kkkrain is the capital of Nambia

      • kanehau

        “Urine”

      • TuuxKabin

        Or theater, or theatre.

      • JWC

        or point it out on a large colorful mao with his stubby little fingers

    • crewman

      That’s what I think too. This has the appearance of orchestrated theater.

      • margaretpoa

        Theater of the absurd.

      • Ninja0980

        Too bad so many media pundits have fallen for it already.

  • Bambino

    So twitter is consider as official response now? How about a down vote on Facebook?

    • margaretpoa

      That’s now on par with UN action.

      • Bambino

        Next up, emoji only response.

    • killreligion

      It’s disgusting what has become of our society and discourse

      I just received a cover letter for an applicant to a role that involves writing copy. There is one typo and one comma abuse in the cover letter!

      • TuuxKabin

        Make the corrections in red ink. Return with appropriate grade rating.

        • Steverino

          And “see me.”

          • TuuxKabin

            “See my agent.” /s

          • MaryJOGrady

            I did that once when working for the Lesbian/Gay Rights Lobby of Texas, in 1994. We got a hate-filled fax from one of the several Texas factions of the KKK. I corrected all the spelling and grammatical errors, graded it, wrote “See me after class,” and faxed it right back to them. (We did not hear from them again.)

          • lattebud

            I’ve seen that DVD

      • SelectFromWhere

        Makes your decision a little easier!

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        LOL. My boss started asking applicants to write a paragraph on anything at all during interviews. He’s extremely concerned with how bad the writing skills of recent grads are, and seemingly getting worse every year.

    • Dramphooey

      It’s a brave, new world. The State Department tweets they’re giving missiles to Ukraine and Russia tweets https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9eea7d0ab7484d8cd920fc9ba51aed9eaed828a069f1475dc70b32cf66c3c7ed.jpg

  • Bluto

    Spare us your feigned innocence & outrage, putie. If you’re so pissed off then release the peepee tape.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b11fc56900f929fd2c6be2ec552c34caf5476e59053021f2d8fa79c364b358a4.jpg

  • margaretpoa
  • shellback
    • Tomcat

      Some of the best.

    • TuuxKabin

      Rather plush, yeah.

    • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

      Ah yes, the Moscow, theatre massacre. Good times!

    • What theater is this? (Addendum – Fox Theater, Detroit Michigan — I looked it up in Google Images). Gorgeous !

      • TuuxKabin

        Fox, Detroit.

      • shellback

        Back in the day, they truly were palaces.

    • Steverino

      Without a gay lobby.

      • Ray Taylor

        I’m sure there were gays in the lobby most every performance.

  • bkmn

    Donnie always listens to Vlad. ALWAYS, or he gets some polonium in his diet coke.

  • Tomcat

    Shit Putin, lets just get it on if you actually think you can beat us.

    • margaretpoa

      No. Don’t be absurd. We couldn’t even beat Iraq and they had one 20th the population of Russia, had been under military sanction for a decade and didn’t have nuclear weapons.

      • Tomcat

        I for one am tired of being consumed with the though that another country is going to destroy us. My first 20 years were lived in fear of Russia, NO MORE. Bring it. I believe in good Americans.

        • margaretpoa

          And I believe in reality.

          • Tomcat

            Then live in fear from now on, that is the reality that THEY want you to believe.

          • margaretpoa

            Who said anything about living in fear? That’s your schtick. I’m not afraid of Russia but that doesn’t mean I’m ready to tempt nuclear annihilation. I served in the Navy during the Cold War so don’t give me that shit.

        • BobSF_94117

          I don’t quite see the reassurance you get from knowing we could nuke them.

          • margaretpoa

            Right wingers seem to relish the idea of blowing shit up. Including innocent people. Now this person may claim to not be a right winger but he just openly admitted to being willing to fry countless children in Russia because HE is afraid. Sounds pretty Republican to me…

          • Tomcat

            Screw you, I am born and breed Democrat.
            And I too served in the Navy during the cold war.
            If a Democrat cannot have a different opinion from yours you call them a republican. Feel free to block me. we won’t miss each other I am sure.

          • margaretpoa

            Have it your way. Democrats can live in fear too, I concede. Still it’s more of a right wing trait to advocate for genocide to assuage one’s fear of dying.
            And I’m not going to block you. I’m not the one who lacks courage.

          • geoffalnutt

            Gets their money blown up, too. Not to mention the “things”…if they survive. Have fun Republicans!!

          • Tomcat

            WHO mentioned Nukes????

          • margaretpoa

            Oh, please: Nuclear power + nuclear power =?

          • BobSF_94117

            Well, in what other scenario do you see us “winning”? A ground war? Cyber war? I think we’d actually lose both. In the long run, the Russian people have the benefit of knowing how to survive without a functioning society. We have our traditional advantage of being far from the site of conflict. In the end, which would allow the largest number of civilians to survive? I’m not at all sure.

          • margaretpoa

            Not to mention that their territory is way too large to occupy even a tiny fraction of. The ONLY way to defeat Russia would be with nukes. And of course our nukes will be answered with theirs and before we know it, the conflagration we thought we’d put behind us renders this entire conversation moot.

            The most stupid fucking idea ever to be uttered is the belief that a full scale nuclear war is survivable.

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          Seriously, we can’t even get a reasonable amount of consensus here on JMG.

  • BlackGayVeganAtheist

    Yeah, right!!

    Every rocket fired at Ukrainian soldiers and civilians is food taken from the mouths of 30-40 Russians.

    And heaven forbid that the Ukrainians actually get the firepower to respond in kind.

  • BlackGayVeganAtheist

    The United States has never been more divided along socio-economic lines, our internal and external policies breed nothing but divisiveness and death while the rest of the world grows to have a pathological hatred of us.

    Ukraine is the least of our problems.

    FUCK RUSSIA and PUTIN let them PAY for their warmongering ways

    • BobSF_94117

      Ya know, when I think of the worst times, well, the Civil War comes to mind. The lead up to the Depression was pretty bad, too. Then there was all the labor turmoil in the 30s. The 70s riots and demonstrations were pretty intense too.

      We are not more divided than ever. That isn’t the problem. The problem is we have a madman in the WH, a stooge/agent of Putin.

      • BlackGayVeganAtheist

        We are DEEPLY DIVIDED along soci-economic lines when THREE Americans (Bezos, Buffet and Gates) have more money than the bottom half of Americans…that is FUCKED UP…and wage stagnation is a REAL thing…that has been going on regardless of Trump for the past 20+ years

        Lastly most people are NOT funding their retirements because they need the money now and heaven knows what the FUCK is going to happen to Social Security that people are automatically paying into….

        I am NOT going to place all the blame of Drumpf the government and cooperations have instituted some policies that are NOT by and for the people but they are CRUSHING many Americans on a daily basis

        • margaretpoa

          Jimmy Buffet is that rich? Wow! I knew “Volcano” was popular but gee…

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            Joke all you want but Warren Buffet is worth 80+ Billion

          • margaretpoa

            I know. Chill.

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            Whatever DUDE

          • margaretpoa

            Why are you angry with me? Lighten up, Francis. I’ve been working to elect progressives for decades AND I work in manufacturing. Don’t preach to me about stagnate wages and filthy rich CEOs. I live it dailly.

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            Your attitude at attempting to bring levity to what is NOT funny and when it is not taken as such you want to throw down the hammer of “chill”…well sorry if I do not aspire to your methods

          • JT

            Perhaps it’s because you said something stupid after saying something impertinent.

          • JT

            Sometimes jokes not only fall flat but are also imprudent.

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            You can also add ignorant and self-serving…because that is what I read

        • BobSF_94117

          I understand all that. My only quibble is with the idea that it’s never been worse. It’s been worse. It’s been a lot worse. That doesn’t/shouldn’t detract from criticism that we are most certainly headed in the wrong direction. I don’t like the claim that it’s so bad because, among other things, it gives people a very, very wrong impression of how bad thinks could/will get.

          • JT

            He didn’t say it’s never been worse. He said “The United States has never been more divided along socio-economic lines”. You need to read what’s written and not attack a straw man. In fact, your own position seems more off the mark. Your “headed in the wrong direction” is hardly sufficient to cover the tyrannical figure in the WH now.

          • BobSF_94117

            As you quoted “has never been more divided along socio-economic lines”. Do you think today is worse than the age of the Robber Barons, the lead-up to the Depression, the inequality of the Dust Bowl years?

          • JT

            Check the figures. Also, note that’s not what you originally said.

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            Considering the population of then to now barely 120 million to almost three times as many people…HELL YES…also if you have to go back almost 100 years to make a point I dare say you are being far more romantic than realistic about things…because they are about the same…it is just WRONG…

            Germany and Japan are doing just fine and so could we…but we as a populace have become “star fuckers” to the rich and they are doing NOTHING but “fucking us over a barrel” now if it were Chris Meloni I might be willing and ready to take it but from these jokers I will pass and say it is WRONG…

            YES, I have read, The Worst Hard Time…one of my favorite books!!!

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/940e693f59513f8501e012d88796b471fb2baf1841f02c1f3a40880a392d732d.png

          • BobSF_94117

            When people say “it’s never been worse” and it has been worse, I have to point that out. Maybe it’s a character flaw, but I don’t see the value in dishonest hyperbole.

            Why anyone would think, as a result, that I don’t think things are bad now and headed toward terrible, I cannot fathom.

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            Look first of all your intentions and words are muddled here on the internet due to the static that divides us…

            I sincerely do not believe that any rational and sane person believes that it can not get worse

          • Sporkfighter

            Worse now or not worse now, does that matter now? We can’t fix the past. Which way are we headed now? How many people will die in the future because of the direction we are headed now?

          • JD

            Thinking it is worse…the issues you raise had something that is gone today: clarity. Whatever side one was on, one could “see” he perspectives. The manipulation of what-people-can-know means that there is no clarity–all is shifting quicksand, with almost everybody easily hyped and manipulated by the use of advertising techniques in place of infomration. And it is going to get worse.

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            Considering the SHEER AMOUNT OF MONEY floating around the USA right now in the hands of a select few…NO IT REALLY HAS NOT BEEN worse

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist
        • HaHaHa

          So what do you propose to fix the issue?

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            What the fuck are you proposing, comrade?

          • HaHaHa

            Comrade? Ok. I don’t have a proposed solution. Everyone bitches but doesn’t offer up a solution. Perhaps we should offer a solution before bitching about everything.

            Comrade? Really? For asking a question. You’re a little fuck stick aren’t you.

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            I already offered solutions. America is full of cowards. As for your bullshit attack, I ain’t buying.

          • HaHaHa

            I didn’t ask you, I asked BVGA. You attacked first, don’t dish it if you can’t take it.

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            First thing cooperations like Amazon and Microsoft and Walmart should be paying HIGHER wages and providing many of their employees with a guaranteed pension fund!!

            I mean Apple has over close to 200 Billion Dollars in cash reserves…that is insane

          • canoebum

            The US economy produces more than enough wealth to provide a minimum guaranteed income to all citizens. Wealth redistribution is viewed as a horror, but to my eyes, it looks more like justice.

          • BobSF_94117

            Not only just but truly the only practical way to survive.

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            EXACTLY…thank you for this…as this was the way of the United States not that long along…how did my father who is 73 work for a moderately sized (a total of 36 years) company get a pension for the reminder of his life and make things happen for a family of 4 and NOW it is so foreign to aspire to this in just ONE generation of time…that is messed up

          • Reality.Bites

            Traditional pensions are no longer practical, since few people stay with a company long enough…

            But there are ways around that, that at least empower employees, such as matching contributions to RRSPs or the US equivalent. Decent companies do that, as do those that want to attract good employees.

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            Many people would stay if they were MORE secure in their futures…but alas I acknowledge your point of mobility…

            Why are pensions disappearing?

            Private companies want to take on less risk when helping to provide for their employees’ retirement. It’s why these companies are ever more frequently turning to defined contribution plans — such as 401(k) plans — in which employees typically fund most of their own retirement by automatically setting aside money from each paycheck. However sadly many people DO NOT and CAN NOT afford to do so.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/68a622918f706623aa95631f9a7a74e7c191e6468c363aa75ba6d24edb3e728b.jpg

          • Reality.Bites

            I was fortunate enough, from 30-55, to work for companies that were pretty generous in what they contributed *AND* gave a fair degree of investment control that became complete when you left.

            But obviously many people aren’t in that position.

          • HaHaHa

            You can’t take from the rich to pay he poor. What you’re talking about would instantly destroy this country and everything it it was founded upon.

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            The rich don’t NEED all of it…you can only shit on one toilet at a time so why have a home with 10 of them…something my grandfather used to say and it remains true today

          • HaHaHa

            Higher wages, yes
            Pensions, yes
            Better benefits, yes

            Radical redistribution of wealth to pay non workers (minimum guaranteed income), absolutely not.

            If I owned a company and a minimum income was mandated I would shut it down and move overseas. It would spark a mass exodus of business that provide us jobs.

            Those of us who work should not have to subsidize the non-workers, unless they are unfit to work.

          • Reality.Bites

            So?

            The United States of America is a glaring example of first to market not being best.

            No industrialized democracy has gotten it so consistently wrong on so many issues for so long.

            Your democracy and “freedom” are an international joke.

          • canoebum

            We can’t? Says who? This is a democratic republic, fella. If enough people vote for a confiscatory tax on the uber-wealthy (nobody needs billions in wealth) so those economic gains may be more fairly distributed to the people, we damn well can. The top tax bracket used to be north of 90%. All income above a certain level should be viewed as a common good to be shared with society at large. We fought a revolution to be rid of aristocracy, we can do it again. Sure, the clever, the inventive and the hard-working should be rewarded for their efforts. But those rewards should benefit all of us, not just a very few elites. They didn’t earn that wealth in a vacuum. They earned it with the resources We the People provided.

          • HaHaHa

            I’ve seen a lot of stupid comments on the internet but that trumps them all. Wow, just wow. Holy hell the mind numbing ignorance. I just can’t.

          • canoebum

            What the hell are you doing at this site? You are obviously lost.

          • HaHaHa

            Advocating for stealing from people, you are a pathetic schmuck.

          • canoebum

            When a society determines that the personal accumulation of wealth beyond a certain limit is a detriment to the public good, and enacts laws to curtail that detriment, it ain’t stealing. It’s justice. You may believe that unbridled capitalism and the accumulation of vast personal fortunes are a good thing, but I assure, there are many people who do not share your view. After the first $500 million in personal wealth, how is having more going to improve a persons life? You still have to put your pants on one leg at time.

            I’m done with you now.

          • HaHaHa

            FUCK YOU PIECE OF HUMAN EXCREMENT

          • HaHaHa

            I agree 100%, thank you.

          • TuuxKabin

            You be blocked for one.

          • HaHaHa

            Good for you. I know reasonable/rational questions are scary for some. Enjoy your black hole of online validation.

          • MaryJOGrady

            Great idea.

          • TuuxKabin

            Ain’t nobody got time for BS HaHaHa.

        • canoebum

          Real wages are just about the same as in 1970. Almost all the gains in productivity in the economy has gone to the top 2%. The workforce has not shared in the benefits of their increased productivity.

          • BlackGayVeganAtheist

            That is what I am sharing here…STAGNATION while the price of EVERYTHING is thru the roof

          • canoebum

            And yet, scum like Mnuchin prosper. The division in society is deliberate. Racism and anti-immigrant passions serve to distract the working class from the governmental and corporate polices which keep them poor. The political class have rigged the game to benefit those with capital and allowed them to pull the ladder up out of reach for the rest.

    • margaretpoa

      The voice of reason. This is a show, put on by the Putin Kabuki theater group.

      • BlackGayVeganAtheist

        Exactly, why the fuck would I care about their conflict…this is about Putin and his need to claim and MUCH as possible nothing more…

        In perspective, Russia has a GDP that is around 14th in the world, smaller than countries like Brazil and Italy. Its economy is trashed, and the ruble is rubble

    • Joe in PA

      Even PornoPete thinks so…LOL…he WISHES Obama would get “timid” with him.

      https://twitter.com/PeterLaBarbera/status/944920703387815936

      • Reality.Bites

        AKA The religious right nut bar the religious right won’t touch.

      • jerry

        Considering that the defensive weapons provided to the Ukraine are basically worthless against Russia, I think it was meant to provide cover to Trump and was probably cleared with Putin ahead of time. When we were arming Afghanistan against the Soviets, it was mostly stinger missiles to be used against helicopter gunships because that’s their main weapons…they don’t invade with tanks any more.

  • Rocco

    A good old fashioned hair pull is a brewin…

  • Friday’s_cat

    Falling out of thieves?
    Putin losing patience with Trump not delivering the names of operatives spying on Russia?

  • Uncle Mark

    So upending the US voting process, while installing a “useful idiot,” and aiding in N Korea’s missile development is NOT a provocative move (to say the least) on Russia’s part? Fuck you, Putin. Once we remove your puppet and your collaborators, we’ll REALLY give you something to bitch about !!

  • Bambino

    Putin:🤔
    Dotard : 🤗
    Putin:😑
    Dotard:😥
    Putin:🤨
    Dotard:😘😍

  • ohbear1957

    Another sham. If Putin was seriously displeased with his stooge, he’d allow the pee tapes to leak out.

    • Reality.Bites

      That… wait for it… DEPENDS.

  • Reality.Bites

    OT:

    No thanks, woefully mistargeted JMG ad. That photo pretty much defines my boundary.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6b5e98c84ba40d649823a6df6f6e16fa6bea6fc0c6e5060363a4d0525bd212ca.jpg

  • BlackGayVeganAtheist

    From the Washington Post Comments…something to think about and consider

    Oleg Deripaska’s private jet — M-SAWO — on December 22 flew Moscow-Miami — landed at Miami approximately 4am local time 12/23.

    Dmitry Rybolovlev’s private jet — M-KATE — flew on December 22 San Jose, Costa Rica to Miami.

    So — as of December 23 we have Deripaska’s plane and Rybolovlev’s plane in Miami and Trump in Mar-a-Lago.

    Oleg Vladimirovich Deripaska (Russian: Оле́г Влади́мирович Дерипа́ска; born January 2, 1968) is a Russian oligarch and philanthropist. He is the founder and owner of one of the largest Russian industrial groups Basic Element. He is the president of En+ Group and United Company Rusal, the second largest aluminum company in the world. He also is a close associate of Vladimir Putin and Paul Manafort.

    Dmitry Yevgenyevich Rybolovlev (Russian: Дмитрий Евгеньевич Рыболовлев; born 22 November 1966) is a Russian businessman, investor, and philanthropist. Rybolovlev owned the potash producer Uralkali. He is noted for his 2008 purchase of a Palm Beach, FL, mansion for $95 million from Donald Trump. Trump had paid $40 million for the mansion and was deeply in debt. The profit on the mansion allowed Trump to pay off some of his debt. Rybolovlev’s private jet also was seen during the 2016 US presidential campaign at several locations where Trump was campaigning. As with all the Russian oligarch’s, Rybolovlev is closely tied to Vladimir Putin.

    Meanwhile, according the boat traffic sites, the yacht “Sea Owl” — that belongs to Robert Mercer, Steve Bannon’s financier — is now in Palm Beach.

    • Natty Enquirer
    • Joe in PA

      But I’m sure we’ll be able to see the visitor logs at Mar-A-Lago, right?

      Sigh.

    • JohnJay

      Didn’t Manafort get some waver to go to his home in south FL for the holidays? Back then, I thought he’d pay a visit to the Russian billionaire who has his yacht berthed in Palm Beach, and they’d just sail away. But that’s too risky. The Coast Guard might intercept them; it’s not a Russian government yacht, so no diplomatic immunity. Instead, now I think Manafort will slip onto one of those Russian planes, and be halfway across the Atlantic before anyone realizes.

      • BlackGayVeganAtheist

        YEP…

    • Acronym Jim

      Not only did Rybolov pay nearly three times the mansion’s worth, his first action was to raze it to the ground.

    • Cattleya1

      Come on – there are lots of coincidences in life… right? Besides, it is a lot less obvious if they fly into MIA than if they were to go into West Palm or Ft. Lauderdale. It is a 75 mile limousine ride.

  • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

    As if this isn’t exactly what all has been planned by PuTrump for the past 5 years, a Soviet-American arms buildup for profit. Please. The plan is working flawlessy.

  • geoffalnutt

    Hmm. Do you think it’s time for his sonic weapon?

  • ohbear1957
    • JT

      It is now.

  • gaycuckhubby

    Ugghh… I hate when I agree with Ben Shapiro

    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/944944014960324608

    • safari

      His twink days are coming to an end.

      • gaycuckhubby

        They been gone

      • I cannot see how anyone could find him remotely twinkable. I could see wanting to hold his head down in a toilet and flushing it (I was in the jock dorm at Maryland – they did this to racist guys like this as I remember).

        • gaycuckhubby

          Sounds like you’ve been watching kinky bdsm porn again 😉

    • Shapiro is a stupid jackass. He was shocked to find out the alt right hates Jews? He is more of a moron that those Log Cabin Club members who still consider Trump their savior. “Quote from Wiki: “In May 2016 New York Magazine reported: “Shapiro…has increasingly found himself targeted by the so-called alt-right movement, a loose conglomeration of online personalities—many if not most of them anonymous—currently devoted to tweeting and posting their support for Donald Trump and attacking those who disagree, often in racist and anti-Semitic ways. They have been denigrating Shapiro as a ‘pussy,’ a ‘cuck,’ and — inevitably, given the nature of this movement — a ‘Jew’ and a ‘kike.”. “

      • gaycuckhubby

        He’s a complete moron

      • Steverino

        File him under “chickens for Colonel Sanders.”

      • EdA

        Yes, the “good people” among the neo-Nazis and plain ordinary Nazis being particularly subtle.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada
      • gaycuckhubby

        To be clear, Shapiro does not want her banned or suspended from Twitter is just pointing out the hypocrisy.

        • Jean-Marc in Canada

          And yet, he himself is a vapid hypocrite on so many issues. I don’t see him as credible, especially when he uses the #MeToo hashtag, it beyond repugnant.

          • gaycuckhubby

            I agree that he’s an idiot. And the use of #metoo was rediculous and offensive.
            I agree with his overall point

          • Ninja0980

            He negated whatever point he was trying to make with the other crap sorry.

          • gaycuckhubby

            Ok

      • gaycuckhubby

        In the reverse, we call Trump and his group of people thin skinned and snowflakes as well but demand people we dont like to be removed from Twitter.

  • SoCalGal20
  • Harveyrabbit

    Have they actually opened the shipping crates yet? On the plus side no caps or batteries are needed.

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  • OT- The next potential special election Democratic House Pickup is in Pennsylvania’s 18th, a usually reliably Republican district bordering Ohio that Dems have not bothered contesting since 2012. Conor Lamb is a charismatic 33 year old former Marine with a local political pedigree who has a chance. Read here. The election is March 13. https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/23/republicans-brace-for-competitive-pennsylvania-house-race-316206?lo=ap_c1 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a9fbb439cf668c76c995a614fd398232ea96be8fc7d7f5d54f7a9734ed413c4c.jpg

    • Leo

      I do think he’ll make an enormous point gain in a solidly red area but I fear it won’t be enough to make up the gap – Jon Ossoff all over again.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        Still, I think Dems should try anyway. If anything, force the GOP to spend tons of money in a contest they usually wouldn’t spend a penny for.

        We have to think long-term. It’s how the fundajelicals got the crap they want, persistence is key.

    • never say “former” Marine. just sayin.

      • 2guysnamedjoe

        FDNY is like that, too. My dad was retired, not former, FDNY.

    • Hank
  • BeaverTales

    Ukraine is a mess. The Ukrainians are depicted in a lot of media as nationalist, having just separated from the USSR only 30 years ago, and having backlash to ethnic Russians and other former USSR ethnicities, who are seen by some Ukrainians as hated images of an unwanted diversity. Diversity with ethnic Russian dominance that began with the creation of the USSR 100 years ago..

    I’m getting old and there are getting to be too many human conflicts to read about. Does anyone have a good news source to recommend? I kinda stopped following it closely when I started seeing horrific pictures of purported ethnic cleansing reminiscent of images coming out of Rwanda in the 90s. It was terrible, but probably we should be watching it closely so that we know the truth, however complicated and awful.

    • rest easy, my aging friend. the wonderful thing about Today is that there is this thing called the interwebs. it does most of the work for you. somewhere, someone, probably someone younger than you and i, is writing a fact based, highly detailed, properly neutral document about what is going on there. it will last Forever and with just a little bit of effort anyone will be able to find it.

      TPTB are so afraid of this they are trying to kill the internet in America. more than their tax cuts, they want that. fight it.

      • BeaverTales

        I don’t know if all the news I consume is truthful. I would argue that nobody actually does.

        I start most of my news searches on Google news, then pick a source that looks reliable. If I want news from a more local source, it’s easier to sleuth which news sources are reliable…. but whilst sleuthing from sources on the other side of the planet, I find that reliability is relative term, especially when getting news out of a conflict zone.

        I try to read a variety of things, but age makes me lazier about it. I need more sleep time and nappies than I used to….my doctor advised against staying up all night reading all the stuff I think I need to read. That is a younger man’s game.

        TPTB can put direct pressure not just on ISPs and other regulated content providers, but indirectly on PageRank&#8482 itself to filter my news any way they deem “necessary”, and they’ll most likely start with Google News.

  • Rebecca Gardner
  • Halou

    Russia is already convincing it’s proxies that a military solution is preferable by supplying them with money, munitions and manpower? Oh, but that’s different.. /s

  • Mrs. Councillor Nugent
  • Rebecca Gardner
    • billbear1961

      Baby Jesus deported.

      • greenmanTN

        Anchor baby!

      • Rebecca Gardner

        Mary died during childbirth because they had no health insurance and all the women’s health clinics were shut down.

      • SelectFromWhere

        Three wise men didn’t bring gifts because “that would be welfare” and M&J would just cash it in to buy drugs and cell phones.

  • Elliott

    Kabuki theater.

  • whollyfool

    I’m pretty sure this is theatre and was planned by Putin. But we shall see.

    • Elliott

      Agreed-the most disgusting part of it is that most people will recognize this as such; in order for Putin/Trump to refute their (correct) instincts, people will lose their lives.

  • JWC

    Its getting hot in Donny’s world so he has to stike out at dear Vlad for Brownie Points

  • whollyfool

    OT:
    So I just saw this: https://twitter.com/SeanMcElwee/status/944737581404770309

    Did anyone else hear about this? It really disturbs me that I am missing a lot of news.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I think I heard about it but then I go to the dailybeast regularly. The problem is not with you but with the fact that there are tons of shooting a day.

      • Tomcat

        Sorry but any shooting of an innocent child needs news coverage.

        • SelectFromWhere

          Shooting an innocent PERSON needs coverage–a child’s life is not worth more than adult’s, despite the media’s making it seem so.

    • Tomcat

      Same here, very upsetting the MSM refuses to cover this type of austerity.

      • Natty Enquirer

        Did you mean “atrocity”?

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Well, he only took two.

          • Ray Taylor

            Sick, sick joke.

    • Treant

      He only got two, so the numbers weren’t shocking enough to bother.

      Similarly, we just don’t hear about most one or two person shootings unless they’re very flashy or have some weird quirky thing about them that might be of interest.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Unless Trump tweets about it, much of the media won’t cover it. (Fox, BB, ..) And despite how quickly Trump tweets about any crime that he can exploit as red meat for his base, I doubt he tweeted about THIS story.

    • Tomcat

      When I hear of these things I always wonder WHAT these children could have grown up to accomplish if allowed. We may have lost our chance of world peace with any one of their losses.

    • MaryJOGrady

      It was big news here in New Mexico.

      • stuckinthewoods

        There are so many mass shootings in the US only local or extreme ones get covered. They’ve just become unremarkable, it appears. Here’s an interesting mass shooting tracker. https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data

        • MaryJOGrady

          That is so sad.

    • KevInPDX

      I took a media free weekend 2 weekends ago so that’s how I missed a lot apparently. This is terribly disturbing that this dude what he did and no continued coverage?! Not even an echo!

    • billbear1961

      If a MUSLIM fanatic rather than a NAZI had done this, you KNOW the Trump-and-Nazi-normalizing media would have covered it!

    • Lumpy Gaga

      How polite of you to frame it as “I must have missed that.”

      Excellent holiday manners!!!

      • whollyfool

        Lol, it saves me a lot of time to assume things are my fault.

    • Cattleya1

      No – and that is scary. I read a bunch of news sites every day… supposedly good ones.

  • Rebecca Gardner
  • Treant

    OT: Five hours until I have to deal with family. Should I develop quadrirrhea* now and save some trouble?

    * It’s like diarrhea, but twice as bad. And yes, I know where the word comes from, thank you.

    • Karl Dubhe 2

      If you don’t like them, and have gone at least once as an adult, fuck it. 🙂

      Life’s too short, unless by not going it’ll cause even more grief than going will. Life’s too fun…

    • TuuxKabin

      Why bother?

    • stuckinthewoods

      Tell them your doctor just discovered you have a bone in your leg. Your family will have to excuse you.

  • billbear1961
    • bzrd

      Festivus, Mr. Bear
      Hoping next year we’ll have less grievances

      • billbear1961

        Our best to you, sweetheart!

        Alas, as bad as 2017 was, I fear 2018 is going to be worse.

        People are putting ALL their faith in Mueller and the midterms when what they SHOULD be doing, as well, and NOW–all who are physically and emotionally able, and who are not held back by other pressing concerns–is PROTESTING.

        We see how Trump AND the Republicans are trying to turn the FBI into a Gestapo loyal NOT to the Constitution and the rule of law but to the would-be DICTATOR in the Oval Office! Trump is already using the DoJ to go after his political opponents with the debunked Uranium Deal “scandal”!

        The THIEVES are robbing the country blind, and yet STILL there are no adamant and relentless cries for Trump’s tax returns from ANY quarter, neither from the press, nor the Democrats, nor the public! Millions will suffer and many will DIE because of their BETRAYAL of this society, and the Republic itself is in mortal danger as they strive relentlessly to undermine the rule of law!

  • SoCalGal20
    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      She knew he had nothing worthwhile to say.

    • Sporkfighter

      That’s what I’d do.

      • Treant

        “No comprendo 英語, bitte. S’il te plaît, parle doucement.”

        • Sporkfighter

          “Ister-may resident-pay, ooo-day ooo-yay eak-spay ig-pay atin-lay?”

      • Paula

        トランプは愚かなオマンコです

        • bzrd

          I believe it says, “I’m not getting next to that fat man, he stinks and has gunk on his long tie.”

          • Paula

            Close enough. This is what I typed into the translator
            “trump is a stupid pussy grabbing jerk.”

            I think that I like your translation better.

          • Google translates gives me: “Trump is a foolish vagina.”

    • Bambino

      Howlow Pissident Dumb, u lurk lice!

      • -M-

        She totally should have said something like that.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      So sorry, … no speakie Trumptard.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        And “Me hate you long time”

      • ian

        Think I’ll use a variation of that on the next trumptard i encounter, maybe “No habla trumptard.” It’s getting harder to find them these days though. Fewer of them want to admit it.

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    • Lumpy Gaga

      I’d go full-on geisha – hand over mouth, girlish giggle, etc.

      • Sporkfighter

        So you say, but it’d be hard to smile and giggle while trying not to vomit. First, he’s Donald Trump, a man who can smile and push legislation killing poor children. Then there are his table manners:

        “Trump chewed with his mouth open and used vulgarities throughout the dinner,” one reliable source told The LBT. Mr. Comey, on the other hand, is used to saying grace before every meal and has the vocabulary of a choirboy, the source said.

        Pres. Trump also reportedly passed gas without excusing himself which caused Mr. Comey “great unease and consternation.”

    • Jay George

      I would pretend to be asleep.

    • Cattleya1

      Quelle surprise!

  • Mark

    Fuck you Putin

  • greenmanTN

    So, Trump gets called a Russian “asset” in major newspapers and suddenly he does something that “upsets” Russia and Putin so alt-right imbeciles can point at it and say “Would a Russian asset do this?!” Nope. That doesn’t seem staged at all!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0a4aa27fe17651b19f1614c73c9d1f1f617134e68596115ba0c1fd14b10b9645.jpg.

    • BobSF_94117

      Let’s see… would a Russian asset repeatedly fail to impose sanctions, close the sanctions office, speak favorably of Putin on a constant basis, while simultaneously closing Russian consulates (which resulted in a WAY disproportionate counter against us) and supplying weapons to defend against Russian interference in Ukraine? If the goal is to “goad” Russia into more assertive actions against Ukraine, “in reaction to U.S. provocation”, yes, I think an asset would do that.

  • Treant

    I made up a big bag of soap to dump on a table and give away at our family party tonight. That reduces me to about 70 bars or so, still far more than a year of normal usage. I’ll be giving some of it away as the year wears on as small gifts, but at least it gets rid of most of the much older stuff, except the pure Castile that doesn’t hit its stride until Year 2 at minimum anyway.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0cb4ad38c559c4e8ca7852356b9078e95ae8e88b4a1836ad4f044b03129336ab.jpg

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Very nice!
      Are those seedling trays underneath the soap bars?
      Will they be planted soon getting ready for spring?

      • Treant

        They’re dedicated; old and cracked seedling trays get scrubbed out, disinfected, dried, and dedicated to other tasks, like storing soap.

        The twelve down in the basement are sitting on the light shelves, waiting for the New Year and the first things planted (Madagascar periwinkle and Easter Egg plant).

    • Bryan

      That’s so cool, what a nice gift to your family!
      I love your soap posts.
      Maybe you could offer some assistance? How do I keep my dog shampoo from always separating?
      (it’s 1 : 1 : 1 : .25 ; water : vinegar : castille soap in the form of unscented Dr. Bronners : glycerine)
      Perhaps my alkalized-filtered water is messing it up?
      Happy New Year’s, Treant!

      • Treant

        Easy answer: you don’t keep it from separating. The vinegar is dividing the castile into a combination of soap and fatty acids, resulting in some sodium acetate in the water as well.

        Even plain castile will separate in water, it’s just the nature of the beast.

        You’d have to add an emulsifier to the mix, and it really isn’t worth doing. Just shake before use. 🙂

        • Bryan

          Thank you!

  • safari

    O/T: Family Time Day 2: Dad’s not going to the Christmas Eve party that was rearranged around him. And he fell again. I suspect it’ll be everyone’s fault shortly.

    • Treant

      I’m a little constipated and gassy. I blame you.

    • safari

      And now we’re having a family talk that’s going to end in a fight. This should end well since we’ve never had a family talk. Ever.

      • Treant

        I’m guessing you’re hovering behind your carbon copy and sending this on your phone?

        • safari

          Nope. On my laptop. I have no shame.

          • Treant

            Has there been weeping and emergency drink quaffing yet?

          • safari

            At the moment he’s pouting in the kitchen and ignoring everybody walking by.

          • Treant

            I meant you. 🙂

          • safari

            I’m not allowed to drink in front of my parents. It would concern them.

      • fuow

        I’m upvoting you (despite disqus not showing it) because it’s the only support I can offer. Been there, did that, my dearest sibling’s side of the family took the contrarian position to mine (which happened to be that of the doctors and family lawyers) from start to finish.
        So I do have reason to feel empathy for you. Keep your cool, don’t let the bastards bait you and focus on what’s important.
        Fingers crossed.

      • yes b’y

        oh Safari, my heart goes out to you. Merry Christmas

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      His falling is rather worrying. Will he need to go to a home or does he need a live-in assistant?

      • safari

        I think he’d shoot himself before going to a home. My mom is worried about the home scenario, too, since her pension is all their retirement income… and he’d eat half of that in a home.

    • shellback

      I disowned my family (excluding my parents) and created my own family.

      The only time my natural family bothered with me was when:
      1) They needed money.
      2) They needed something heavy lifted.
      3) They needed a ride.

      I truly love my homemade family.

      • safari

        I’d setting for an emotionally mature father.

  • Clive Johnson
    • Rebecca Gardner

      This is a question I asked as a child and nobody could answer. If Christmas is Christ’s birthday, and the year we live in is the number of days since his birth, why aren’t Christmas and New Year the same day

      • bzrd

        they are for me
        I calibrate on the winter solstice

      • Lumpy Gaga

        ‘Cause when your birthday is on Christmas, you end up getting Jewed.

        (Too soon?)

      • GanymedeRenard

        I think the year we live in is the number of days since this character’s death (ca. 33 AD). In any case, he was supposed to have been killed in spring time, not on the transition from December to January. Go figure.

        Edit: Never mind. I just checked, and you’re right – our era begins with the supposed birth of this Jesus person, not his death.

      • Max_1

        It took 6 days for the wise men to arrive, marking the arrival of the New Year… Then, as the Lard is to have said, rested and reflected, “Damn, I’m good.”

        Oh, wait… That’s Genesis.

  • Joe in PA

    Way, way O/T, but seasonal. Hunky Gay Jesus approves…spoiler alert, your gaydar will go off the charts:

    https://twitter.com/HunkyGayJesus/status/944963133701058560

  • Rebecca Gardner
    • fuow

      That would be a firm ‘no.’

    • Clive Johnson

      One of Trump’s excellent people.

    • JohnJay

      He didn’t acknowledge or give credit when the FBI prevented a Christmas Day terror attack in San Francisco. Why would care about the death of some gubment worker? (Especially at the hands of one of those very, very good people).

      • Rebecca Gardner

        Wait! What? I live in SF, what was going to happen?

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-terror-attack-plot-san-francisco-20171222-story.html

          “Acting on tips from an informant, authorities said they saw that Jameson liked and loved pro-Islamic State and pro-terrorism Facebook posts. In the coming weeks, the FBI alleged, Jameson would plot a Christmas suicide terror attack on San Francisco’s Pier 39, a popular tourist
          destination.”

        • TuuxKabin

          You commented on it yesterday, about afraid to leave your home and you were having more wine. You sure must have. Had more wine.

  • fuow

    But her Emails! Her lack of full-throated support for us gays in 1920! Her husband’s full-throating!
    Yup, no doubt about it, they were both just the same and there was never going to be any other way to safely teach us thar’ dem-0-rats whatfur than by sitting out this election or voting ‘Green’.
    Yup.

    • Joe in PA

      May I add a “fuck you Susan Sarandon”?

      • fuow

        Why, yes, you may – and, may I join you?

      • Jay George

        I’ll see your “fuck you Susan Sarandon” and raise you, “with a prickly pear cactus.” 😉

    • Snarkaholic

      Those Green voters will be punished, brutally, every time Chump destroys one of their cherished environmental protections.

      • Treant

        Fun Fact: Most of them don’t really care that much about environmental protections that don’t directly impact them. In addition to being dumbasses, they’re also selfish.

        • Joe in PA

          being dumbasses, they’re also selfish….

          Hmmm, sounds just like a Trumpanzee. 🙁

          • Treant

            Identical. And like a Trumpanzee, they were never going to vote for Clinton no matter what she did. My philosophy rapidly evolved directly to, “Fuck them.”

          • Ninja0980

            I love the ones who are now angry at the Justice Democrats for not giving Cenk Uygar a pass for all the vile things he’s said and done in the past because he’s now one of them but Hillary is a lying untrustworthy bitch forever because she was a Goldwater girl in high school when she was still under her dad’s roof.

          • Treant

            That’s so cute. I hate them all. 🙂

        • bzrd

          plus dying soon, they won’t see the destruction

      • -M-

        So will the Drumpf voters. Making them pay is the one good thing he’ll do in his life.

        • SelectFromWhere

          While taking the rest of us and very likely the whole US economy down with them.

          • -M-

            That’s the downside. And also the reason I don’t feel sorry for the people who didn’t vote to prevent it.

            The obvious result that many people warned them about happened just as predicted. ‘Who knew Trump was a brazen crook; a willing asset for kleptocrats, theofascists, neonazis & Vladimir Putin; had no interest in governing for the people and was worse than Hillary Clinton at her worst?’ Everyone, everyone knew.

          • Cattleya1

            I’ve been rereading “The Republican Brain” – it is even scarier than it was when it came out in 2012. It is very well written and worth your time to read.

        • LesbianTippingHabits

          Trump voters voted. Who didn’t?

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        I’m convinced that the “Greens” in the U.S. are nothing at all like the Green parties in other countries. They’re just contrarians who demand a mythical left-wing perfection and don’t actually give a rat’s ass about the environment.

        But to be fair, they barely even managed to register in the last election. Stein got less votes than “Other” in most states, and much less than Gary Johnson or the number of spoiled ballots, and much, much less than the number of people who didn’t bother to vote.

        • Friday

          Or pretend to be. It was *supposed* to be going for more like the Greens are internationally, but that essentially went out the window after Nader spoiled the election and gave us Dubya, ….also when the Democratic Party became more where to get progressive and environmental things *done,* with the exception of maybe a few candidates in local elections.

      • Friday

        Most real Greens weren’t Green voters for some time, never mind last election. What was left of the party got taken over by trolls and looneys.

    • Ninja0980

      Green/far left voters and Trump ones are two sides of the same coin.

    • SelectFromWhere

      Jill S, can we get a comment on the record about these latest developments? Jill??

    • Jmdintpa

      Hey haven’t seen you in awhile. Always love the avatar. And comments. Happy solstice

    • LesbianTippingHabits

      As many of us know, football player Colin Kaepernick did not vote in the November 2016 General Election.

      He chose to suppress his own vote. No Republicans needed.

  • FAEN

    Putin and his puppet warn each other wink wink.

    • GanymedeRenard

      Tribadism?

  • JWC

    DEMOCRACY A system of Government by the whole population or all elligible members oif state Typically through elected representatives
    AUTOCRACY A system of Government by one with absolute power
    PLUTOCRACY A country or society governed by the wealthy
    Well America , Its your choice, Whats it going to be??????

  • Lazycrockett

    https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/944984886871457792

    That ruined someone’s christmas.

    • Treant

      Ugh, that’s not fun.

      Some years ago, a family friend of ours crashed his ultralight a few weeks before Christmas. He survived, sort of, but with extremely severe burns. He didn’t last that long, and that was a good thing.

  • bkmn
    • Joe in PA

      I’m stealing “Manure-chin”. 🙂

      • bkmn

        I think everyone should be using it, as often as they can.

  • Rebecca Gardner
  • Lazycrockett
  • Rebecca Gardner
    • Rebecca Gardner

      OMG! This website is hysterical.

      I love the title of this story, Roy Moore ordered to pay if he wants another go after coming in a little behind
      https://rochdaleherald.co.uk/2017/12/13/roy-moore-ordered-pay-wants-another-go-coming-little-behind/

    • GanymedeRenard

      Is this for real?

      • Rebecca Gardner

        It’s hard to tell in today’s fucked up world. It’s from the U.K.’s equivalent of The Onion.

        • Reality.Bites

          Shouldn’t they call it the Turnip then? 😉

          • bzrd

            maybe Ramps
            many people like those spring onions

        • GanymedeRenard

          Oh, ok. But again, as you well put it, it’s hard to tell fiction from reality these days.

      • J Ascher

        It took me a moment, but this is the tower from one of the Die Hard movies.

    • Tomcat

      Soon he is going to face a few travel bans of his own.

    • A is one of the few celebrities i actually mourned for real when he died. “… what a savings.”

  • Ninja0980

    Release the tapes!

  • Treant
  • Rebecca Gardner

    Fascism is spreading and the “Fake News” lie sees to be paving the way.

    https://twitter.com/chunkymark/status/944909303609266176

  • GanymedeRenard

    Puh-leeeazz!

  • SelectFromWhere

    Uh-oh…Donnie’s gone and pissed off Daddy…

    • DaddyRay

      He did that a long time ago with this daady

  • JT
  • billbear1961
  • JT
  • Jonathan Smith
    • BearEyes

      Jingle Balls!

  • OdieDenCO

    ooo. now donny gets to act all tough standing up to putin.

    worst plot twist in a situational farce ever!

  • Acronym Jim

    OT: I don’t know if I missed it, but I can’t believe Joe didn’t post the official White House Christmas portrait that seems to have used the “70s Polaroid” Instagram filter.

    https://twitter.com/FLOTUS/status/941403652010463233/photo/1

    In case you are wondering, Trump and Mel are standing in front of the doors to the Blue Room. Since previous first-family Christmas portraits are nearly always taken in front of Christmas trees, I’m guessing Trump picked this spot because it’s the only one that in the Residence has the Presidential Seal featured prominently.

    P.S.: Thanks to Matthew Rettenmund for posting this on his Boyculture website so I could freely steal and share it with my peeps here.

    • Cuberly Deux
      • Acronym Jim

        Seriously, that “official portrait” looks like something a tourist would take during a tour of the White House. I’m glad to see that even professional photographers are resisting in their own way.

        • Cuberly Deux

          It’s like bad kodachrome looky-likey. Pretty much unnecessary to add the filter.

    • Reality.Bites

      Really? You’re shocked Joe doesn’t post Eastern European soft-core lesbian porn here?

      • Acronym Jim

        No, I’m shocked that Joe didn’t post yet another failed attempt by Trump at looking “presidential.”

    • MBear

      Someone photoshopped about 80 lbs off the ferret wearing orange bloater

      • Reality.Bites

        And 20 years too. Actually the whole think looks like he made a visit to the White House at Christmas 20 years ago.

  • bkmn

    O/T Lyin’ Ryan is all psyched to take an ax to Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security when they come back after New Years but Bitch McTraitor says the Senate will not follow suit. My guess is that McTraitor is well aware that if they gut those programs they will definitely lose control of the House and Senate. It will be interesting to see how it plays out since Ryan gets his marching orders from the Koch brothers and they really want more tax cuts.

    • SoCalGal20

      Well, Donnie Two Scoops just couldn’t wait to sign his tax cut to himself so by not waiting until January to sign it the Medicare cuts related to PAYGO are going to kick in in 2018 during the midterms! 🙂

    • If the GOP dares cut Social Security and Medicare – to their biggest voting group — they will be destroyed as a political organization. McConnell knows it, he is a shrewd political operative. Period. It is that simple. As the old saying goes — https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bf3eaee276f34625254f01841b7d63331619817ed39fb7730d5b7afeab22d2e1.jpg

    • Reality.Bites

      Ryan’s out of there next year, while McConnell’s not.

  • Oh quit yer bitchin’, you’re just upset someone else is doing it, too.

  • Max_1
  • leastyebejudged
  • Charles Nelson

    Trump is a “dishonest politician”. An ‘honest politician’ is one that stays bought!

  • Tempus Fuggit

    So any second now we’ll be hearing tough talk from Sarah aHyuckabee Sanders and Nikki Haley about how the US won’t be lectured to, won’t be told what to do, won’t be pushed around, et cetera. Right?

    Any second now.

    Right?

  • wds

    As if this administration would do ANYTHING without the OK from Dolt45’s Putin-Boo. I guess Putin wants to help him pretend to be “tough” on Russia – which I expect to be the next fantasy narrative out of the bushes of the Cult45’s

  • coram nobis

    Perhaps unfortunate, perhaps related, now that Mueller’s people are tracing Manafort’s Ukraine connections, via Cyprus this weekend.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/24/fbi-investigates-russian-linked-cyprus-bank-accused-of-money-laundering

  • hudson11

    Maybe its all a sham- cooked up between Trumpers and Moscow to throw the spotlight off the Russia investigation? Why would America go against its ally Russia?

  • Mike Knife

    A few mad men are going to get us all killed.