Democrats +10 In Generic 2018 Midterms Poll

Politico reports:

Democrats will enter 2018 with a substantial lead in next year’s congressional elections, with President Donald Trump and the GOP congressional leadership serving as anchors on Republicans’ poll numbers.

The midterm election is more than 10 months away, but polls this month — including a new POLITICO/Morning Consult survey — show Democrats opening up a double-digit lead on the generic ballot, a test of whether voters nationwide prefer to be represented in Congress by a Democrat or a Republican.

Democrats’ advantage in the new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll stands at 10 percentage points, 44 percent to 34 percent — the party’s largest lead of the year.

Democrats and liberals are as motivated as Republicans and conservatives to vote in next year’s elections, the POLITICO/Morning Consult poll shows, in a reversal from recent midterms, when conservatives were more energized.

  • Tomcat

    By the next election the Russian bots will have found out how to vote.

    • canoebum

      Bots will be exempt from showing photo ID.

      • lymis

        Only if they’re white.

    • SelectFromWhere

      I’m not sure they weren’t already

  • Sam

    Give it some time. Next year, Republicans are going to have to pass some bills that will be very unpopular with their base (Healthcare Market Stabilization, DACA Restoration, etc). It will mellow out their enthusiasm to vote in November.

    Add to the fact that one, this is just one poll, and two, Independents are leaning Democratic currently.

    • thatotherjean

      What on earth makes you think they would have to pass any of those? They want to go after Medicare and Social Security and other shredding of the safety net, not shoring it up. Voters be damned.

  • Ranger One

    Hope is eternal for evangelicals to find another pedo to run for office.

  • Butch

    Now just don’t blow it with infighting and a muddled middle-of-the-road message.

    • Todd20036

      I like blowing it with lots of tongue.

      Oh, you meant something else.

      • Archipelagos

        You hussy! 😉

      • Butch

        I can multitask, my friend.

        • Dazzer

          Definition of multitasking for men: watching porn and wanking while still keeping an eye on the door.

      • FAEN

        An appropriate amount of tongue is always welcome.

    • Tom Furgas

      A-fucking MEN, Butch!

    • JCF

      “Now just don’t blow it with infighting”

      You can stop there. OF COURSE, I hope (and would vote in the primary) for a progressive, inspirational message. But we need to change the personnel of the Congress, R to D, more than ANYTHING else. Don’t forget that.

      Democrats, UNITED.

      democrats.org

  • canoebum

    I have seen some analyses that say, in some states, the gerrymandering by the GOP is so bad that Democrats need to win by more than 20% to take a majority. Let’s hope it’s not that bad, but the playing field is by no means a level one.

    • SelectFromWhere

      My state is one of those…more registered Dems than Reps and more overall Dem VOTES, and yet over 3x as many Rep congressmembers as Dems.

    • Taylor Bixler

      Yes. This

      VA elections showed how hard the climb will be in any state controlled by Rs since 2010. Ds won like 53% of House of Delegate votes compared to Rs at 44% of total votes cast. And yet the House of Delegates is still perhaps going to be 51-49 Rs split pending a coin toss, er drawing a film canister out of a bowl.

      Because of how districts have been gerrymandered.

    • thatotherjean

      Wasn’t President Obama supposed to be teaming up with someone to take on the GOP gerrymandering problem? Is he done vacationing yet (not that I blame him, but Democratic voters could certainly use the help)?

      • Taylor Bixler

        Holder.
        But they can’t just wave a magic wand. Have to do ballot initiatives, and things in line with state law.

        • thatotherjean

          I know such things take time, but I do wish they could be somewhat more visible about their efforts. It would be nice to have something positive to rally around.

      • canoebum

        From what I heard, he is working on that. I expect we will see results in the months ahead.

        • thatotherjean

          Speed the day!

  • Michael R
    • GayOldLady

      Historic for Ivanka means she just sold a bunch of knock off heels and wasn’t sued.

    • William

      Skank.

    • SelectFromWhere

      “For Christmas”–as if they even take effect for at least a year and won’t those West Virginia coal miners be surprised when their taxes go UP then…

    • greenmanTN

      WTF is up with SHS, Kellyanne, and Ivanka’s hair. Are they trying to bring the Farrah ‘do back?

    • thatotherjean

      Didn’t she move them to Ethiopia, because it’s cheaper to hire workers there?

  • Patrick NJ

    To the Administrator: wrong link.

  • Ninja0980

    A lot can happen between now and then.
    I’ll celebrate if we take the House and Senate back and not before.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Here we go. Constant polls for the next 11 months saying Dems will KICK ass.
    Leaving everyone to stay home since it’s such an obvious victory.

    • Ninja0980

      Yup, just like with Clinton…

    • Todd20036

      I like lots of.. oh, Poll, not Pole.

      My mistake.

    • jeffg166

      It ain’t over until they count the votes. Assume nothing. Drive people to the polls.

    • Tom Furgas

      I almost (ALMOST) sat out the election in 2016, thinking that Trump had very little chance. Then I thought “NO! I MUST cast my ballot!” I am SO glad I did. Otherwise I’d be feeling like a TOTAL DICK for letting him win because I DIDN’T VOTE! So, don’t let the polls fool you folks; get out there during the midterms and VOTE your asses off!!!

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    • MichaelJ

      Don’t blame the polls, or even the people who continually make posts that celebrate how the Democrats are leading in the polls. Blame the “stay at home” voters.

      • Galvestonian

        … or the desperate Republicans blocking votes at every turn including ” you can vote from home “.

    • Chuck in NYC

      The presidency is one thing, but no lasting change will reverse the damage the GOP has done the last 35 years until the majority starts voting out their existing Republican representatives and senators.

  • Todd20036

    Meh. We’re 11 months away.

    Ask me again in 10 months.

    • Mark Née Fuzz

      By then Trump may have declared martial law and cancelled all elections, naming Junior as heir and successor.

      • Jeffrey

        A lot will happen in 11 months but polls won’t have anything to do with any of it.

      • Galvestonian

        …time to call out the second amendment crowd that are fervent Democrats.

        “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
        time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
        It is its natural manure.” Thomas Jefferson

    • Uncle Mark

      So very true; so much can happen in 10 months…especially with this relentless shitshow of a regime:

      Trump’s economy may very well come crashing, starting when the housing market slumps when people realize that they can no longer get a tax break on their mortgages, and when corporations aren’t hiring more people…preferring to outsource, as there are no longer penalties.

      The Russia Collusion trials start this spring…and will continue all through the 2018 campaign year. Trump is the GOP’s tar baby. There is little they can do to separate themselves from him now. The investigation may reveal how deeply involved the GOP is in the collusion.

      Trump may try to fire Mueller…igniting a firestorm, and all bets are off the table.

      Il Duce may nuke N Korea, using that as a distraction from the trials or Mueller firing. He may even pull a Dick Cheney by trying to argue that we can’t have the chaos of elections or Russia investigations.

    • Ore Carmi

      Ask me on the day after the election.

  • Ninja0980

    Polls don’t vote, people do.
    These mean nothing if we don’t show up.

    • Ore Carmi

      And polls today say nothing about an election 11 months from now.

  • Mark Née Fuzz

    That margin is still too small. Americans are just too damn stupid.

    • SelectFromWhere

      Gerrymandering is the real problem. My state has had more Dem votes for Congress in the past few elections than Rep votes (overall), but we are so gerrymandered, our ratio in Congress is 10R-3D

      • johncAtl
      • Tom Furgas

        Plus, of course voter supression in the guise of fighting “voter fraud”, which is next to non-existent.

        • lymis

          And so is quietly apportioning all the voting equipment to white, conservative districts, leaving huge lines in the districts where Democrats vote.

      • North Carolina?

        With a +10 wave (and I think it may be higher), 6 to 7 of those Republicans may be vulnerable. And if the same happens with the legislature, you could be in good shape heading into the 2022 redistricting.

    • jerry

      With gerrymandering, Dems need to win by 12-15% nationwide in order to win the House.

      • Ore Carmi

        And with voter suppression added?

  • GeneInSJ

    We have to get our government back. My 2018 resolution is to get involved in protests and be more vocal. It’s now or never.

  • MBear

    LOL – as if.
    The nazi party will just increase their vote suppression techniques and propaganda.

    No worries.
    It’s still all lost

    • SelectFromWhere

      I’m just glad I’m old enough that I don’t have to live in this world but a few more decades–I am terrified for the kids being born now and what they will have to contend with.

      • thatotherjean

        I don’t want my grandson to grow up to live in the county the Trump administration seems bent on creating. I hope we can at least start to fix it in my lifetime.

      • MBear

        Best thing to offer kids is dyal citizenship

  • Scott Fitler

    I cringe every time I see news about Democrats having an advantage. It always feels like foreshadowing to “cue ball drop.” Dear Santa all I want for Christmas is for this not to happen.

  • William

    Time to start fighting and overturn Citizens United.

    • Archipelagos

      You’d be looking at the fight of your life if you went after Citizens United. Billions would go into defending it.

      • Uncle Mark

        After the way the GOP decided to rape the Middle Class, so they would be assured of their continued campaign funding, it shouldn’t be too hard to convince the average American to scream bloody murder over this. 2018 may also show the GOP that deep campaign chests cannot make up for their blatant fucking over of their constituents.

        • thatotherjean

          I wish that were so. Unfortunately, people who don’t pay attention to politics are more likely to believe the Republicans when they blame the Democrats than to believe Democrats when they say Republicans are at fault for their problems. They’ve been conditioned to hate Democrats for the last 40 years or so, so it’s hard to blame them, but it’s also hard to get them to listen. Maybe this time. . .

          • Uncle Mark

            There will always be those intractable, willfully ignorant voters…but have you noticed how many voters have been falling away from calling themselves Republican? When this economy/tax scam begins hurting the average voter there will be a backlash. Remember how many Republicans cancelled their hometown meetings, when they were trying to repeal the ACA…fearing the wrath of their own constituency and the bad press? (Even those unrepentant Republican voters saw how beneficial the ACA was to them.). When these same Republicans find that they can no longer afford their homes, because they can no longer take deductions for their mortgage, or can no longer afford health insurance, college, or find the economy crashing around their knees…it will be obvious to most of them who’s at fault.

          • thatotherjean

            I hope that those voters have enough sense to vote their Congresscritters out before the economy crashes altogether; but apart from that, I hope you’re right. The right people need to be blamed for the mess we’re in.

          • edrex

            that really is the maddening part. the absolute lack of attention paid by the average american voter. it is a complete abdication of democratic responsibility.

        • lymis

          Part of the problem there is that while the new tax laws go into effect immediately some of the most pernicious elements kick in over time. Anyone who isn’t burned in April 2018 may not be paying enough attention in November, only to be shocked in subsequent years.

          And, you know damn well that if the Democrats DO win and people start seriously hurting on their 2019 and 2020 tax filings, the GOP will blame the Democratic majority. They’ve done it before.

      • William

        It will be an epic battle, on the lines of the right right wing against Roe v. Wade.

  • j.martindale

    It only matters if people vote.

  • Stephen Elliot Phillips

    Yeah wasnt Hillary up by 10+ points 11 months out from the presidential election?

    • SelectFromWhere

      And 71% chance of winning even as of *Election Day*.
      Don’t let polls get you complacent–presume you’re trailing at all times and fight accordi9ngly.

      • edrex

        and um… keep the russians out of it.

        • fuow

          And don’t forget that the rethugs are going to be doing their utmost to prevent our voters from voting.

  • Jeffrey

    Please don’t start this now it’s a nonsense number. Completely unimportant poll number one year in advance. Fucking stop it.

  • greenmanTN

    C’mon, Democrats, how can we fuck it up this time? We’ve snatched defeat from the jaws of victory before and we can do it again this time. Go team! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/59f983c8e6b7b260a2eb52df6c1094b4665f8e5f90c0decc2437eb419c326960.jpg

    • JCF

      Not laughing, greenman. No cynical fatalism—we CANNOT afford it.

  • Boreal

    Energized to vote doesn’t mean shit if you don’t vote.

  • joe ho

    lol. Won’t happen. The far-left is too easily confused and prefers to virtue signal and sabotage. Too many mainstream Dems are too lazy to turn off the TV. Dems terrible at messaging.

    • lymis

      Dems are terrible at being messaged to. A lot of Dems are pretty damn good at messaging. The media doesn’t help. Clinton had a wealth of good solid policy and actually expressed a lot of it on the campaign trail, but the media was too busy slavering around behind Trump.

  • Harveyrabbit

    OT: meanwhile here’s something for those starving for some real news…

    “sandwich shop worker claims to have fathered dozens of extraterrestrial babies”

    https://nypost.com/2017/12/19/artist-72-claims-hes-fathered-dozens-of-alien-babies-and-paints-his-e-t-romps/

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5682f94e2f8dd94fe2e88745d669da8912086c03187fbb78c67de2d828ce963d.jpg

    And as far as a lead in generic polls goes… doesn’t mean a fucking thing unless everyone actually fucking votes!

  • Gustav2

    CNN D+18
    Quinnipiac D+15
    Monmouth D+15
    Marist D+13
    POS (R) D+12
    NBC/WSJ D+11

    The Trumpster will call all this fake news.

    • lymis

      Yes but what will Putin’s minions spin it as on Facebook?

    • Longpole

      I hope he keeps saying this, maybe the Dems will show up to prove he is wrong and the trumpsters will believe him and get complacent.

  • kladinvt

    Is this just another ploy to make Dems complacent?

  • FAEN

    Doesn’t matter-can’t let our guard down.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Sadly, many will. Worse still, the usual suspects will do their best to split the vote because “PURITY!”

      • FAEN

        I am sick and tired of the purity voters already. Sick and fucking tired.

  • lymis

    +10 is not enough.

    • JCF

      So give! Work! Volunteer! It’s up to us.

  • fuow

    If this remains true, great! Sadly, though, there will be people running for our party who are less than perfect. Ditto the rethugs.
    Difference?
    The rethug voters will vote for them anyway while our people will weigh the merely good against the perfect and either stay home of ‘teach’ us another lesson.
    Nose, meet knife. That’ll spite you, you face, you!

    • Halou

      There is nothing like the “Bernie or bust” lot in the GOP that would refuse to vote for the chosen candidate out of spite, even Ted Cruz voted for Trump and that was after his own father was accused of being involved in the JFK assassination by Trump himself. Ted Cruz’s voters likewise followed the party line without remorse or apology.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada
      • Dayglo

        Let’s add to that candidate list:

        6) Might not be of your race and/or sex
        7) Might be “old”
        8) Might not want to “have a beer” with them
        9) Might be “uncool”

        Put down your phones and save our lives.

        • JCF

          10) Might have taken a “corporate” meeting or 3.

  • Bambino

    As far as I’m concern, it’s pure fantasy until the votes are counted in with no legal challenge or the court decide after the election.

  • Kevin Andrews

    The reality of this two-party Kabuki and fraud on America is that we never have a real choice.
    I will vote but have absolutely no faith in the election system with the Democrat’s election-rigging of 2016 and their Neoliberal Wholly Owned and Operated by AIPAC fascist acts.
    Unless and until We The People force change to “ranked choice ballots” and a secure voting process the elections here are pure fraud on the voter. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/377d525beda6ba9356af33ae1a16508dfaf224bbff07bbb1c6086b1f56074063.png

    • danolgb

      Now tell us. What exactly did the Dems do that “rigged” the election. Be specific. It’s idiots like you and your “no difference” bullshit that helped put Trump into office.

    • KarenAtFOH

      Glad you are voting because people who are waiting for the perfect progressive state are going to let the crooks and scam artists plow this crippled ship of state right into the seabed.

  • Jake GG

    Obviously generic candidate polling doesn’t reflect actual candidate polling, and things often tighten as elections get closer. So we can’t count or chickens before they hatch.

    But for the next 3 months this kind of polling actually needs to be shared far and wide without trashing it constantly, because it will help with candidate recruitment in places where it’s really needed to change things. So don’t be so down on the polls just yet.

  • Halou

    Is it enough to nullify enemy electoral meddling?

  • Michael White

    Remember Hillary was way up in the polls. It will depend on turnout of our base and their base. We can not get self confident and have people stay home because “it is in the bag”.

  • Richard

    ALL Democrats need to get out and VOTE in November, regardless of what the polls are saying. As we saw in VA, every vote counts and when Democrats come out to vote, Democrats win ! We need to stop trump and the Republican madness from destroying our Democracy !

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    And he we go. The polls will show Dems leading and, if 2016 is any indicator, Dems/Liberals/et al will again be lulled into apathy or complacency; worse still, the left will see this as once again an opportunity to push the purity tests and split the vote. Sorry, but my confidence in liberal America is not what it used to be. The far left still insists on playing the purity games while eschewing any pragmatic or reasonable compromise. While it is important to push the Dems to the left, it is also important not to be so rigid as to become intransigent.

    “If the reed is to rigid, it will break in the storm…only the reed that is flexible and bends, shall survive it.” Heed this lesson of nature and remember….

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f76f44dda9f18f6637078605b06622feb259781b1129aef9850c67109273a46a.jpg

  • Mike C

    Great but the financial damage from this tax scam is going to haunt us for decades. Forget any movement toward tuition-free college and single-payer. They broke the bank. It took them 11 months and it’s going to take decades to reverse it.

  • ted-

    Can we vote to hang the treasonous fucktards in office too?

    • JCF

      Well, not in office. That could ruin the rugs. ;-/

      • ted-

        I’ll have it any way I can at this point. I’ll even clean the rugs after. “Believe me…”

  • juanjo54

    Generic polls don’t mean squat. Never really have indicated anything other than very general trends. It is the dynamics of each individual race which matter.

  • Steve Smith

    Well that gives the DNC a whole 10 months to screw things up.

  • GanymedeRenard

    May the tendency continue, oh, god(dess)es!

  • I love dim sum

    The polls also said Hillary had a 98 percent chance of winning. I remember laughing at how wrong supposedly infallible Nate Silver was, with him claiming that she had an 80 percent chance of winning. His career should have ended election night.

  • Galvestonian

    CANNOT and I say CANNOT ( as a Southern Vietnam Veteran ) come too soon.

  • JCF

    Very encouraging…but don’t count on polls! GIVE!!!

    House: dccc.org
    Senate: dscc.org

    Kick the Rethugs OUT!!!!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/af65b4c4cf1907a0c9a8528dc906b8c5570917dbe38b03bbbd854d6fb8ac8f96.png

  • Oh, Parker

    We’ll need double digit poll leads to squeak out a thin victory due to all of the right-wing and corporate fuckery they’re planning.

  • gregnsf

    Just a thought…wouldn’t it be great if the Democrats had a plan or at least a few ideas besides”We aren’t Trump”?

  • Ore Carmi

    I absolutely refuse to be confident about this. What about all the voter suppression and gerrymandering? What about all the weaselly Republican demagoguery and the short memory, stupidity and gullibility of so many voters in this country? What about the Democrats’ flare for bungling electoral strategy? What about the disparity between all the money available on the Republican side compared with the Democratic side?

  • Terry

    We need to come out and vote regardless of polling. Further, do you really think Democrats would’ve made those kinds of numbers with Clinton in office? Dems would’ve been complacent as they were with Obama in office.

    I hope Dems will be as motivated when there is one of our party in the WH

  • Terry

    I hope to see some Progressives make their Primaries in blue districts and topple some Repukes. I’ve been watching Justice Democrats and I am hoping for that wave to catch on!