Lindsey Graham: If North Korea Tests Another Nuke, There’s A 70% Chance Trump Will Order An Attack

The Atlantic reports:

It’s become a grim ritual in Washington foreign-policy circles to assess the chances that the United States and North Korea stumble into war. But on Wednesday Lindsey Graham did something different: He estimated the odds that the Trump administration deliberately strikes North Korea first, to stop it from acquiring the capability to target the U.S. mainland with a long-range, nuclear-tipped missile. And the senator’s numbers were remarkably high.

“I would say there’s a three in 10 chance we use the military option,” Graham predicted in an interview. If the North Koreans conduct an additional test of a nuclear bomb—their seventh—“I would say 70 percent.” Graham said that the issue of North Korea came up during a round of golf he played with the president on Sunday. “It comes up all the time,” he said.

  • Treant

    Ham biscuits over there, darlin’. By which I mean “naked erect penises.”

    But you knew that.

    Regardless of all that, honey, nobody can predict what Dumpster will do. Not even Dumpster. And I think even Dumpy McFuckwad is a little scared of China.

    • David Walker

      If he bothers to think about it. Thinking is not his strong suit. To paraphrase the old DuPont line: Better living through lies.

  • thom

    Shut up Lindsey. You don’t have Insider information, Trump spouts off all kinds of crazy shit to everybody.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      … and thank gawd that war-monger Crooked Hillary was not elected!
      /s

      • thom

        Thank you Jill Stein!!!!
        You really saved us!

    • Robincho

      Lindsey loves war, ‘cept that it takes all her menfolks away…

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        Lindsey: I have girlfriends in many cities more than happy to keep me company. In Canada.

        • clay

          Yeah, named Georgina Glass?

  • Michael White

    Lindseybelle loves the thought of the long steele rockets going off.

  • bkmn

    Swish diplomacy?

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    If an anchor on CNN repeats his own lying words verbatim, there’s a ___% chance that Trump will order a nuclear attack. (greater than zero)

    • Lazycrockett

      Well Fox and Friends has their lead tomorrow.

  • JWC

    Now there Lindsay Belle don you go be givin that man any goldurn idees

  • AtticusP

    And there is a 100 percent chance that little Lindsey Graham’s head is so far up Trump’s ass that he can tell you what he ate for breakfast this morning.

  • safari

    Well smother him in gravy and call him breakfast.

  • Dana Chilton

    If congress spends 1 trillion dollars on corporate tax cuts it may not have the money to fund a war

    • William

      Trump will only have to fire a few missiles.

      • coram nobis

        And then Seoul gets the biggest artillery bombardment since Verdun, and that’s assuming no nerve gas or tactical nukes in the mix. What does that do to the world economy, Donald?

        • William

          The Korean peninsula will be obliterated in a matter of minutes. After that, there will be nothing to fight about.

          • coram nobis

            Well, yes, except for the fallout. And the no Samsung HDTV sets. And whether Korea’s neighbors think that Donald should have asked them first.

            Too bad the PDB doesn’t include a copy of The Guns of August. Donald’s gov’t is beginning to look a lot like Austria-Hungary’s ca. summer 1914.

          • TimCA

            “And whether Korea’s neighbors think that Donald should have asked them first”

            Heck, we might not even consult South Korea. Last I heard the Trump administration STILL hasn’t bothered to appoint an ambassador to Seoul.

          • thatotherjean

            Well, if Trump fires so much as one rocket, nuclear or not, at North Korea, South Korea won’t be around to ask at all; so I guess it’s OK. /s

          • Friday

            Frankly, it’s not just finished products with Korean names. They make so many of the chips and components and *parts,* for everyone worldwide, including ‘made in USA’ stuff, that a lot of stuff from cars to even basic phones suddenly gets hung up on the supply chain drying up. (WHich would also mean any of those corporations that make actual things, or trade stock in those that do, probably don’t get to enjoy most of that tax-ripoff.)

          • canoebum

            China said it would not intervene as long as the US did not use a first strike option. If we send bombers or cruise missiles into North Korea absent a strike by them on us, we’re at war with China. A golf game is always the best place to discuss such things. It’s where all the serious people hang out.

      • clay

        And they’re already there– use them or the money’s wasted.

        /s

        • William

          We don’t have those subs parked off the coast to listen to whales.

          • Friday

            Shh, Trump doesn’t know what the ‘Nuclear Triad’ is. 🙂

      • pj

        more pertinent …what will china fire back.

    • safari

      Silly. There’s always money for war.

      • David Walker

        Nothing says “butch” like starting a war.

  • Boreal

    Then he should be removed from office, you closeted little freak.

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      Total lie! How dare you! Lindseybelle is no closeted little freak.

      Gurl’s a big freak. Seriously, she’s got an ass that made for movie projection. Too many ham biscuits. That and that she’s so far in the closet she’s hanging out with Mr. Tumnus. In fact, I think that she did Mr. Tumnus.

      • Nic Peterson

        LindseyBelle Graham (R) Narnia. Doesn’t look right. Does Narnia even get a senator? Should Wyoming for that matter? I hope that lion thing shows up and eats her.

    • Rambie

      How dare you! Now Senator Graham is going to have to console himself with his associate Benj. 😉

    • Ian

      Yea, where’s all the damn rent boys and staffers with his sex scandal? He looks like he has busy hands.

  • safari
    • Treant

      Also the repetition and tendency to say the same thing more than once, or even to say the same thing twice.

      • edrex

        over and over. again and again.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Wut?

        (he he he)

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      The replies to that tweet are hilarious.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada
      • JT

        That’s the right motion. But there should be something sticking up from under the cushions.

    • JT

      Redunce and dunce again.

    • Cattleya1

      Not written by 45 – there are a subject, verb, and object here. Besides, he doesn’t use words like duplication – let alone ‘redundancy’.

    • greenmanTN

      Trump being stupid is like deja vu all over again!

  • WNY

    That is illegal and the U.N. would condemn that move bigley

  • Cuberly Deux
  • Lazycrockett
    • SoCalGal20

      Who needs seatbelts and airbags and food safety and drug safety and OSHA and shit like that?

      • lymis

        The market will take care of all that. Everyone knows that corporations always do the right things because customers care.

        /s

        • When I was a rep for a pet food company I would remind customers as often as I could that regulations keep their pet’s food safe and healthy. Even with regulations companies knew they could use things like saw dust and unidentified animal parts.

    • Ninja0980

      Don;t you know the corporations will do the right thing even without the government watching over them?

  • R W C

    Someone told Trump Korean BBQ is delish!

  • Clive Johnson

    Graham’s always been an eager war hawk.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Dear Murika,

    Please advised that, while it is indeed a concern that NK possibly has nukes and missiles in which to launch, please note the incredible irony of the only nation on Earth to nuke another country actually wagging it’s finger at a nation who is only testing rockets and further, basically saying “only we get decide who can have what.” Seriously, if another country said that to you you’d rightly tell them to fuck off…so yeah, fuck off.

    Signed,

    People who are concerned with NK having nukes but have no time to listen to pontificating hypocrites.

    • safari

      But you see, Donald and his cabal believe that NK i going to hold SK hostage until they reunite under the banner of NK’s leadership.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    O/T Meanwhile….DaFuq!!!…but am I totally shocked anymore….

    https://twitter.com/DailyMailCeleb/status/941447772078780416

    • safari

      I never understood dad humor.

    • coram nobis

      Well, it is the Daily Mail. Let’s see what other media come up with.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        True…but still…Oy!

    • Treant

      Allegedly.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Agreed, but it’s like “REALLY?”

        • Treant

          And he was so demure as Tootsie.

          • coram nobis

            And so phony in Wag the Dog. And clueless.

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      One minute to Wapner!

    • Max_1

      The shorter list appears to be one of who isn’t a perv…

  • Lazycrockett
    • safari

      ‘murkia

      • djcoastermark

        Murika, where we show what christain luv is all about.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Unbelievable!

    • RobynWatts

      Fucking heartbreaking.

    • clay

      In many states that would be illegal. However, many states also have a loop-hole for “transitional shelters” which can evict people with no notice for minor infractions of even discriminatory rules.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada
      • HozillaSmallpox

        I love your tweets they totally make my day.

    • bzrd

      Did everyone read the article?

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        OT: There have been more reports about human feet washing ashore in BC. You wouldn’t know anything about that? Hmm, ….

        • bzrd

          human feet washing
          they taste good
          with salt water

        • Acronym Jim

          Off to the BC coast! I love to have my feet washed…erm, that’s not what you meant, is it?

          Never mind.

      • jmax

        Yes, and as usual, not as simple as Twitter makes it look.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        I just did, and it’s no less tragic.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Yes, but that still doesn’t mitigate how she’s been treated. It’s clear she has some cognitive issues and while they are a problem, this seems overly litigious and is, frankly, unseemly. As I noted in one of my responses….

        https://twitter.com/sirlthr69/status/941458139211337728

        NOTE: I am not saying everyone is perfect on this issue, people tragically do fall through the cracks, but subsidies and other financial aid and care is offered precisely because we believe people shouldn’t go bankrupt or be evicted because of circumstance.

        • bzrd

          It is possible she needs mental health care and the home could not provide it
          but off to jail
          no way

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            Exactly. It’s not that she didn’t contribute to the problem, it’s that it’s being handled in such a, for lack of a better term, brutish manner.

        • Michael R

          Universal healthcare might create jobs , money that billionaires need to destroy Democracy .

      • Natty Enquirer

        So she’s kind of an asshole who refused to pay rent because she thought she was going to die, then refused assistance finding another place to live, then went limp when the sheriff came to pry her out. Oh, and a god-botherer, too. Being 93 years old doesn’t automatically make you a good person.

        • clay

          It (and all that other stuff) also doesn’t automatically make her a competent person.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      A few good Christians could raise some money to help her out, but they’re all tapped out after donating hundreds of thousands to florists, bakers and County clerks.

    • canoebum

      As I have previously posted; living in Trump’s America is a daily humiliation.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Does Senator Marco Rubio know about this!?!?!

      • David Walker

        Would he care?

      • Jefe5084

        he signed the summons.

    • Jefe5084

      why the hell do they need to use handcuffs on an elderly person in a wheelchair? JFC!

  • coram nobis

    “What you MEAN, Miz Scarlett?”

  • Brian

    He says his name is Lindsey, but he’s really just another Dick from Dixie.

    • djcoastermark

      Well butter my biscuits, I think you nailed it.

  • JT

    If that’s the case, then there should be a lot of chatter among the inner circle as to immediate removal.

  • Kevin Andrews

    Sister Lindsey Thundercunt Graham is a legend in his own mind. This ill creature is miserably inaccurate at the odds. The Shitgibbon will nuke North Korea just to start WW3 that is the MIC’s wet dream.

  • Henry Auvil

    After blithely predicting imminent nuclear war, Lindseybelle went home, mixed a julep and logged onto whatever replaced rentboy.com.

    • Treant

      BuckFuckers.gov

    • edrex

      that’s patently untrue. julep season ended months ago.

    • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

      I bet she’s too cheap. I say Craigslist. MASC ONLY!!

      Sad….

  • JWC

    Thot Tillerson was on his way there?

    • clay

      Rex(xon) had lunch with Turmp just today. Also there: General Mattis.

      • JWC

        hehehe at least make it Rexxon

        • clay

          Your wish . . .

          • JWC

            as Jeffy Beauregaurd should be Jeffy Noreguard

  • RobynWatts

    Lindsey, feel free to head to North Korea, then. And, don’t forget to take you bestest buddy, John McShame along with Trumpy and the entire GOP with you.

  • William

    Here’s some good news, the US Postal Service is issuing a stamp to honor Sally Ride.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bac9f787e1e360598530901cf610642450b55f81c624ea6ccc6e3d84ce8982d3.png

    • RobynWatts

      An honor well deserved!

    • Treant

      Cool! But why is Forever struck through? Is that only for the image release to keep it from being used?

      • coram nobis

        Most likely.

      • William

        So you don’t start printing them on your personal color laser printer.

        • Treant

          Give me ten minutes and an image editing program. 🙂

          • houstonray

            LOL it would be pretty easy, though I think faking stamps is on the same level with counterfeiting money (crime wise) as far as the government is concerned.

          • Tom Furgas

            Moreover, it would be like forging $1 bills. Not really worth the effort considering the severe penalties that go with it.

        • Tomcat

          Not that you could not un-pixel the line right off of it.

          • Tomcat

            You beat me Trent.

        • another_steve

          That’s exactly it, William. Love to you.

          Anything on the web can be digitally manipulated and printed out – with the right equipment – in such a way that it’s indistinguishable from the “real thing.” Anything.

          Even with the “strike-out” here, the stamp could be digitally manipulated and mass-printed out, and the postal service could lose hundreds of thousands of dollars.

      • TimCA

        We’re heading for nuclear war. No need for the word ‘forever’ at this point.
        🙁

        • Treant

          “Until the events of The Postman come to pass, then once Costner starts it up again” is a bit long for a stamp. 🙂

          • FAEN

            I hated that movie. Almost as much as I hated Titanic

          • Treant

            The book was much better.

          • FAEN

            It would have to be. The movie really sucked ass and not in the good way 😉.

      • Tom Furgas

        Yes, all postage issue images that are presented to the media have a cancellation mark to prevent them from being used for postage.

    • Mickey Bitsko
  • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

    The thought of nukes makes Miss Lindsaybelle soil her knickers in excitement. How’s trump’s hole smell, gurl?

    • JAKvirginia

      That’s nutty. Oh, wait…..

      • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

        That’s what Lindsay said, delighting in the aroma ….

        (Sorry that’s really fucking gross)

  • Tomcat

    Bet you have splinters in your ass from changing positions on that fence.

  • coram nobis
    • Karl Dubhe 2

      I’m sure they don’t have smallpox.

      Ummm, well…

      • coram nobis

        Err, yes. Incidentally, some years ago, mid-2001, the gov’t war-gamed a smallpox scenario, calling it Dark Winter.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Dark_Winter

        Dignitaries included Sam Nunn in the role of President and David Gergen as nat’l security adviser.

        • Karl Dubhe 2

          Yep, actually I worry about what else they’ve developed. Some of us were vaccinated against that, I’m sure those immunizations will work against a weaponized…

          Oh, fuck me sideways.

          • coram nobis

            Yes, and Dark Winter suggested someone just needed to sprinkle a little bit about. No fancy ICBMs.

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            Oh, hell. Either is enough to kill us all. Both???

            The only good thing about the current US government is that anyone who wants to kill themselves need only wait a while; your president is nearly certain to kill us all. No need for suicide.

  • Tomcat

    Trump actually thinks his poll numbers will climb after he gets us in another war.
    They will for a short while, then the newness wears off.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    Quit playing golf with the fuckwad then getting all Senatorial on TV and shit.

  • justmeeeee

    And how did you calculate that, Miss Graham? Either he will (100%) or he won’t (0%). Are we looking for a little attention, perhaps?

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Takeaway: “Lindsey plays golf with the Preznint!”

  • Tomcat

    The blood of war will be on the hands of the GOP since they allow the shitweasel to do whatever he wants.

  • Tomcat

    100% sure if he does South Korea loses big.

  • Natty Enquirer

    This is just a thought—maybe we should win the 16-year-old war in Afghanistan before we start another one?

    • canoebum

      Following on your thought, maybe we should leave Afghanistan altogether as there’s no winning to be found. The country hasn’t changed much since the 10th century. Our hanging around isn’t going to accomplish a thing.

      • Karl Dubhe 2

        Declare victory and GTFO, it’s what all the smart invaders have done since Alexander the Great. 🙂

  • Megrim Twist

    Oh no, Miss Lindseybelle has an erection.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Tomcat

      Soooo, everyone is gay?

      • Ben in Oakland

        As far as I can tell, yes.

      • m_lp_ql_m

        No, only Mormons who masturbate are gay.

    • clay

      Is this like that Seattle hyper-masculine preacher who said masturbation was sex with a man, and couldn’t even have sex with his wife if there was a mirror in the room? Or was it that he couldn’t have sex UNLESS there was a mirror in the room?

    • R W C

      …and magic underwear makes you want to masturbate.

    • gaycuckhubby

      Nice pic 😉 Daddy is fine af

  • Jay George

    OT: heh heh Looks like Google won the pissing match. Good.
    https://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-to-start-selling-apple-tv-and-google-chromecast/

  • Ben in Oakland

    And what will YOU do, miss lindseybelle, to avoid a world wide catastrophe?

  • Michael R
    • Mickey Bitsko

      Excellent!

      • carrot festival

        Down to the tiny hands.

        • OdieDenCO

          and off color rimmed eyes

    • Halou

      I guess stuff like this is why Rupert Murdoch jettisoned 21st Century Fox for Disney to deal with.

    • Treant

      It was probably correct up until Mueller resisted meeting Trump and accepting the bribes.

  • thom
  • AJ Drew

    OT: WH staffers horrified when they realized that stack of regulations was actually a leaked copy of DT’s pending indictment. 😉 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5f3e445a1a5f6690a34e391dd2ce8a60572300ae69e1efb6fe1ae1be00a9d639.jpg

    • Tomcat

      That would be wonderful if it was.

    • Halou

      What is that all about? It is a lot of paper.

      • AJ Drew

        That would be our fearless dotard bragging about how he’s going to undo all public safety regulations enacted since 1960.

        https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/941406242785955841

        • David Walker

          I will be especially happy to see the fucking moron gag on his Big Macs with rat shit and meat from cattle fed any kind of unregulated drugs and Fish Fillets from an even more polluted ocean. That is, of course, assuming his chauffeur can find his way to Mickey D’s through the smog in the limo that used to be black, before the acid rain got to it. The big question, though, was the fucking moron able to unload Mar-a-Lago before it flooded from the rising sea level. Yeah, shit-for-brains. Setting free the dreams of your billionaire friends is just what we need, because they’re all so socially responsible, just like you.

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    Understandable, but we really need to pawn him off on somebody else for a few days. And we’re running out of babysitters.

    https://twitter.com/EsquireUK/status/940968327492587520

    • bzrd

      more than half the people in the US want him to go and never return

      • pj

        a lot more than half,

        • That_Looks_Delicious

          I think we’re up to 80% on the West Coast.

          • pj

            i think thats bottom line across the country.

    • David Walker

      Maybe book him on a flight to Nambia. I’m sure they’d love to see him.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      That’s about the same here who don’t want to see him come here either.

    • greenmanTN

      Less than half? I thought it would be higher.

    • Mickey Bitsko

      To stay in power, one of these people has a pact with homophobic racists. The other is Donald Trump.

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      I think more US people want America to be returned to England instead of living under Trump. I mean, I could live under Prince Harry any day of the week.

    • ChrisMorley

      Trump visit to UK expected in new year, says US ambassador

      – US president expected to visit Britain in early 2018 when he may formally open the new American embassy, says Woody Johnson

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/12/donald-trump-visit-to-uk-expected-in-new-year-says-us-ambassador

      • David Walker

        The fucking moron has to hit the streets at some point. Unless it’s freeze-the-skin-off cold, I hope his parade will be by “moon light” and the signs wonderfully biting.

        • ChrisMorley

          The US embassy opening in Battersea will be the anti-social event of the London 2018 season.
          The building and landscaping are designed to repel boarders, there’s even a protective moat. Prepare to be ingenious.

          • David Walker

            Oh, I do hope “Have I Got News For You” won’t be on hiatus for his visit or the grand opening. Both sound so typically boorishly Murkin. I mean, a moat? Seriously? I’m afraid to google it.

          • ChrisMorley

            You can safely google for new US London embassy ‘news’ because it has just been shown off to the world’s media.

            You should find a safe landing on the Embassy’s own pages https://uk.usembassy.gov/our-relationship/new-embassy/

          • David Walker

            Thank you. It’s not awful, I guess. We’ve done worse.

      • Henry Auvil

        Wait. Woody Johnson??!

    • Robincho

      #10 Downing is on seriously thin ice at Buckingham Palace on this issue, and if Dumpy ever puts his bloated orange ass on UK soil, Theresa has seen the last of Buck House. And I don’t think even Theresa is stupid enough to risk that eventuality…

    • William

      Shut down the airports the day he is scheduled to arrive.

  • -M-

    You’re not helping. 🙄

  • Pip

    Good to know that the fate of the world is being decided between holes of golf.

    • leastyebejudged

      It’s always that way, don’t kid yourself.

      • Pip

        Figured most of the time it was decided while they enjoyed a delicious piece of chocolate cake.

  • Lazycrockett
  • Adam Stevens

    So, like, cloudy with a chance of radiation poisoning, Miss Lindsey?

  • thom
  • thom
  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Yeah, I went there….no, I don’t care LOL

    https://twitter.com/sirlthr69/status/941467811381202944

    • Mickey Bitsko

      you know what they say…..

      Once you go hack you can’t go back?

    • JT

      She had to have a magnifying glass to see the most disgusting one, and she wasn’t that upset because she thought it was a cheeto.

  • thom
  • Michael

    This is total complete madness. Madness.

  • Halou

    Is that before or after Putin calls Trump to tell him how “tremendous” he is?

  • Friday’s_cat

    If war breaks out with the DPRK draft registered republicans first.

    • clay

      According to Kris Kobach and Wilbur Ross, registered and voting republicans are the only real citizens for districting or drafting.

    • OdieDenCO

      and call up the militia. put those guns to work

  • Lazycrockett
    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Proving once again, that Eric is actually the smart one.

    • MikeBx2
      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        No, he is not.
        The coward will simply delete the tweet once enough people notice what an idiot he is.

      • OdieDenCO

        what are the odds on not?

    • R W C

      Project much, Jr?

    • safari

      He’s like the guy from American Psycho but without the talent.

    • whollyfool

      Obama appointed him: Trump made him chairman.

      John Oliver took care of educating people on net neutrality.

  • j.martindale

    Brinkmanship. Such a wise course of action with a toddler as presidunt.

  • Lazycrockett

    People telling Chris Matthews that “he keeps them sane everynight.”?????

    • Jefe5084

      WHA? They must already be insane to come up with that. I can not stand the bloviating motor mouth.

  • thom
    • clay

      Can you imagine a Mercer being jailed for treason?

      • thom

        Yes! Yes I can. Vividly!

      • Cuberly Deux

        Lordy that would be awesome!

      • David Walker

        “Daddums would be so very upset. Think of what it might do to our reputation in the Hamptons. We were just participating in our democracy. Would you like honey in that daiquiri?”

      • JT

        I prefer execution.

        • clay

          well, chronologically . . .

        • Karl Dubhe 2

          Thou art too merciful.

          I want them in a cage for a few decades, before they ‘move on’…

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Very good news! They (and the Mercers) are at the center of everything!
      (Including Brexit and the stolen American election).

    • SoCalGal20

      Tick tock motherfuckers.

    • Treant

      And the investigation once again expands without any sign of completion in the reasonable future.

      (Yes, yes, I’m cynical and think he’s collecting both his paychecks and his bribes).

    • JCF
  • Michael R

    It seems like a few weeks ago I was trying to
    get in extra river time before summer ended

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c35f2c774f646e1b3c80282cf97aad6e4ae666a089ed6d1249736717b321e278.gif

    • Cuberly Deux

      There she is. 😉 !!!

    • BobSF_94117

      OK, for one brief second I thought she was water skiing on her paws backwards. It’s been a long day…

  • safari

    I watched a lady spend ten minutes haggling over postage at the grocery store only to huff off to argue at the post office tomorrow. I thought someone should know.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      You can haggle over postage?

      • safari

        Computer says no. Apparently that doesn’t stop some people.

  • JRDC

    And this is what Dominionists want. But, let’s all laugh and chortle, shall we. #thanks

  • OdieDenCO

    the subject of NK comes up all the time? tsar putin the puny must have given orders to attack at all cost.

    • clay

      I suspect not. Rather, Turmp’s just easily inflamed.

  • stuckinthewoods

    O/T Today in Charlottesville court the charges against Fields (the man who ran over Heather Heyer, killing her) were upgraded to first degree murder.

    • safari

      From second, I hope. But first means they have to prove he planned it.

      • stuckinthewoods

        It was second degree (5 – 40 years) when initially charged because it was thought 19 people were injured (besides Heyer) but now it’s gone to first (20 – life) because it’s actually 35 people, and aggravated malicious wounding of eight with “permanent and significant” injuries. They’re counting on the video of him backing up and ramming the crowd as evidence of pre-meditation.

  • greenmanTN

    Lindsey is safe so long as North Korea hasn’t developed intercontinental ballistic houses.

    https://memegenerator.net/img/images/600×600/11443067/wicked-witch-feet.jpg

  • Karl Dubhe 2

    O/T: Cats!

    For the last few months I’ve been hearing this tapping on the wall/door, today I found the source of that noise. My cat, Teddy, has been whacking the wall next to his litter box. I can’t see the reason for it, but it was funny to watch.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/834494e79e1f9cbc0cfb0c3fea793ff33592d7e6b4ab713b6ad71f9786ab6384.jpg

    • safari

      Kitties are amazing.

      • Karl Dubhe 2

        ‘Specially ones that are nearly 20.

        He’s too old for Roy Moore.

    • houstonray

      Was he using the litter box? Ours is tucked into a corner of the laundry room and so two sides have walls. One of our kitties (we have two) does his business and then starts to cover it and about halfway through he starts tapping the wall to cover it up. ;-P

      • safari

        While I’m thinking about it, how is Houston doing these days?

      • Karl Dubhe 2

        Nope, he was fully outside of it. it’s in the closet in the front hall, an unusual place, but it works. 🙂

  • Ginger Snap

    Fuck yeah! Let’s start another war I think the big corporate war companies are getting poor we need to fill their coffiers. /s

    • safari

      That reminds me to watch the end of the last season of Dark Matter.

      It’s a future space drama set in a time when humans have “warp drive” and the corporations have fleets to impose their will. My favorite character is a commander in one of the company fleets because she is delightfully corporate.

  • Lazycrockett
    • SoCalGal20

      Does that explain why Farenthold is still creeping around? Do your fucking job.

    • greenmanTN
    • coram nobis

      Slitting throats?

      Red states and Red Weddings go together, don’t they?

    • greenmanTN

      Firing a sexual predator: “slitting throats,” a tragedy
      Passing a tax bill that will result in many people being unable to support themselves: collateral damage

    • Lars Littlefield

      He’s not running for reelection. By the time his tax repeal starts to show obvious problems he will no longer be in office to answer for any responsibility. I suspect there are many Repub senators who are not happy about left holding the bag. I also suspect the tax repeal bill will not pass.

  • thom
    • Treant

      Yeah, but Republicans. Until proven otherwise, they’re already bribed or bribeable. In Collins’ case, she already got bribed and she’s not going to fold now, she might have to pay it back. 🙂

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I also heard 2 Senators may or may not be in the hospital.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Ok, the water works have started…..

    I hate fucking republicans.

    • coram nobis

      We all should avoid fucking republicans. Not nice.

      Especially Miz Lindseybelle.

      • safari

        We’re holding Christmas Eve in the neutral territory of my 86-year old grandparent’s house.

        • coram nobis

          Good luck.

          • safari

            This year we’re probably going to break from party lines and ask my cousin and her pastor-wanna-be-unemployed-husband if they are deliberately trying to kill their infant or if it is just because they are selfish. I mean. Selfish in a we-give-all-to-the-lord-oops-she-is-starving kind of way.

          • Treant

            Let me guess, they’re anti-vax too?

          • safari

            How’d you guess?

          • Treant

            It seemed to mesh with their complete laziness and inability to consider anybody else. You’ve described them well.

          • safari

            I wouldn’t call my cousin lazy. She works 10 hour days, prays for 2 hours before work, cooks, cleans, and goes to church to church with her lazy husband. I mean… “pastor student”. I would call her brainwashed, though… after all, she is part of the weaker sex and he is the man of the house… and she apparently agrees.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Oh you….

    • E.J.

      Is fucking being used as a adverb or an adjective……..that last line is open to interpretation.

      • Cuberly Deux

        lol….yeah after revisiting that.

        I hate the fucking republicans.

        That better. 😉

        • E.J.

          You could say: “I dislike hate fucking republicans”…….but that’s something completely different

          • Cuberly Deux

            The whole concept of hate fucking freaks me out, bad, big big big bad. The first time I heard the saying I went, Wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut?????

  • AJ Drew

    Isn’t #paycheckPresident a tad too on the nose? They might want to rethink that hashtag.

    https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/941436323549863936

  • thom
  • JCF

    OT: Eyes wet here. Chris Hayes just had activist Ady Barkan denouncing the Rethug Tax Scam (which will result in an estimated 13 million fewer w/ health insurance). Ady has ALS (point of personal privilege, my mom died from ALS/Lou Gehrig’s Disease). He and his group are demonstrating at the Capitol on Monday. “Monday is my birthday; I don’t know how many birthdays I have left.” }-(..

    Go here to learn about activism in your area: https://stopgoptaxscam.com/

  • Lazycrockett
    • McSwagg

      Sadly, this is untrue in the states that didn’t expand Medicaid coverage. I know first hand. It’s been several years since I last had health insurance.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • safari

      I was once taken aback when a female colleague of mine responded “Teach boys not to rape.” when asked what we should do about college sexual misconduct.

      She’s right.

      • Treant

        Unfortunately, that’s viciously oversimplified (and also tells me she wouldn’t’ve done jack shit about my worst situation since it doesn’t seem to cross her mind).

        • safari

          In the context of the conversation, it was spot on. But I do take some of your point.

    • David Walker

      OK, I get it. But what I don’t get is if I’m now not supposed to watch any of his movies? Or listen to recordings James Levine conducted? Or watch any Hitchcock movies? Why do I feel I must boycott these famous talents because of their sexual assaults? Is that supposed to show support for women who’ve been assaulted? It’s like the whole Susan Sarandon thing. Yes, I understand the political anger, but does that mean no more “Thelma and Louise” or “Cradle Will Rock” or “Rocky Horror” because she’s in them? Can I watch “Midnight Cowboy” and “The Graduate” but not Hoffman’s later work? How does one separate a person from her/his art? And why should I give up on said accomplishments because the person is disgusting?

      • safari

        It’s okay.

        People can do bad things and also good things.

        • JCF

          On that note: this is a good article.

          https://intomore.com/culture/Its-OK-to-Be-a-Mess-Over-George-Takeis-Sexual-Assault-Allegations/7326691552414a8a

          This was the thing for me about the Takei story:

          “Stern asks Takei if he’s tried to “grab anybody” against their will. Takei paused for a telling amount of time before saying that he’d previously tried to “persuade” men who were “skittish” or “afraid” by giving them “more than a gentle” squeeze. That description is nearly identical to what Brunton said Takei did to him.”

          If you believe someone is “skittish” or “afraid”, then do NOT sexually touch them! This isn’t brain surgery, people. [Not saying I would never see Takei’s work again. But I did delete my all my “Oh My!” Takei memes. Because now I can’t look at him w/o thinking “Oh No!”]

      • Lazycrockett

        You can enjoy the art without having to respect or love the artist.

      • gaycuckhubby

        I’ve given up on trying to do the ethically right thing 100% of the time.

        Instead I follow my own doctorine… humanism as expressed through Walt Whitman
        “Dismiss whatever insults your own soul”

        • safari

          I should poetry more

        • David Walker

          It’s owing to never having been faced by so many accusations against people whose talents I like, even deeply respect. Their creative forces have been dynamic; their sexual assaults are both surprising and something I, at 71, haven’t had to think about much. I’m also unsure how to balance the outrage with the respect for their talents. And maybe it’s as much disappointment in the artist as it is outrage. I think you’re on the right track; I may ask to hitch a ride.

      • Mikey

        I’m curious David, please don’t take this as an attack, but as a sincere question:
        were you one of those who found the accusations against Woody Allen enough to stop watching his films?

        I’m curious because of how all these new accusations against other people put the scurrilous accusations against Allen in a new light, at least as far as I’m concerned.

        • David Walker

          I understand what you’re asking and it’s no attack. I was surprised by the Woody Allen story, but I stopped going to his movies because I was getting tired of his shtick. It wasn’t “if you’ve seen one Woody Allen movie, you’ve seen them all,” for that’s certainly not the case, but his approach and viewpoint were repeating themselves. So, yes…the accusations were startling but they weren’t why I stopped going to see his movies.

          • Mikey

            thank-you. 🙂
            I’ve seen so many people ignore the mountains of evidence pointing to his innocence (and to the absolute lunacy of his ex-girlfriend) and continue to lump him in with actual sexual predators.

            The difference between Woody Allen and Roman Polanski is one of the things that makes me uncomfortable with the sheer number of accusations suddenly coming out.

            I want to respect those who profess to having been molested or mistreated, but the sheer numbers give me a scary “me too” bandwagon feeling, almost like the McCarthy-era commie witch hunts.

      • JCF

        Everyone will have to make their own decision: that’s the way it should be.

        • -M-

          This.

          For myself I don’t want to put money in Sarandon’s pockets or help her get new work so, although I’m not throwing ‘Rocky Horror’ or ‘Bull Durham’ out, I’m not watching anything new with her in it.

        • David Walker

          It’s just that I find it troubling…obviously, I have one reaction when it comes to Moore or the fucking moron or the preacher in the story posted earlier today. I view them as scum and the accusations are verifiable and despicable. So are the accusations against Hoffman, Levine, Hitchcock, Roman Polanski, and others, but the art they’ve created is astounding. As I told gaycuckhubby, I think part of my problem is the sheer number of men whose work I admire who’ve been accused. I suspect I wasn’t prepared for the scope of it all.

          • JCF

            I’m not surprised at all. Powerful men TAKING what they want has been the defacto situation for 3000 years (or time immemorial). Women (and low status men) have just been TAKING IT it for all that time.

            No more!

            Will there be false accusations, disproportionality, and simple good faith misunderstandings? Of course. And where those hurt the (comparitively) innocent, that’s tragic.

            But the broom MUST SWEEP CLEAN. It’s mother- brother-fucking RECKONING time.

            http://orig09.deviantart.net/e702/f/2008/322/6/9/wonder_woman_chain_break_by_musclebabe26.jpg

    • Treant

      I’ll get the torches and pitchforks and signs reading, “Burn the Witch.”

    • JCF
      • NowAnAgnostic

        Reminds me of 2 druggies I observed trying to clean a kitchen floor.

  • Bambino
    • coram nobis

      They’re wrong! It’s “whose dicks he sucks for money,” not “who’s”.

      • safari

        Also, I’m sure he’s not the first Indian American to abuse his office. What about what’s his face? The Felon?

        • coram nobis

          Dinesh d’Souza?

          • Mikey

            ah, yes, d’Felon.

      • Karl Dubhe 2

        It should be easy to remember, we use the apostrophe in that situation because it’s a shortened thing in the language.

        We cheat, because we’re English and don’t want to use every goddamn letter and then some; like the Germans do.

        Who’s is who is. Whose is a different thing. 🙂 *yes, I’ve been drinking.

        Joe’s fucking a whore, is totally different from Joe is fucking a whore. Wait. No, they’re the same thing. I need more rum if I’m going to try to teach Anglish.

        • David Walker

          You need to read “Anguished English.” That’ll help.

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            What will really help is more rum. 🙂

            Where’s Edward Teach when I need him? Oh, right. He’s dead.

          • whollyfool

            I had that book!

      • Natty Enquirer

        Should also be “bought-and-paid-for.”

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Well, … there is no need to spell “invertebrate” correctly. I won’t knock them for that. The spineless little devils deserve the humiliation.

  • Refugay

    O/T I wish Zillow would add a filter for “caves,” because I’m in the market.

    • RaygunsGoZap

      Bat or Nick?

      • Refugay

        Splendid spelunking realness.

  • RaygunsGoZap

    What’s the percentage he’ll nuke North Korea of Jared or Jr is indicted

  • another_steve

    Girl Lindsey has cum stains on her teeth.

    Out her.

    She’s evil.

  • safari

    O/T: Naturally. He was a con man and she wants more gravy.
    https://twitter.com/latimesnational/status/941468782429478912

    • Lazycrockett

      They are all grifters.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I’m mean enough to suspect she knew he was doing this kind of shit but turned her head to keep the money coming in. After all, Sandusky’s wife totally knew even if she wont’ admit it.

      • safari

        He called himself “Pope”, got caught trying to burn his caddy in the ’80s by hiring members of his flock, said he was at ground zero for two weeks running his homemade morgue, was an ambassador to the UN, and served as chaplain to the white house through both bushes and Clinton.

        Oh, she’s vile.

    • Bryan

      That was fast.

  • Michael R
    • Lazycrockett

      That woman on the right of him isn’t the actress that plays Darcy on the Thor movies is it?

      • Mikey

        no this is Martina Markota.
        the actress in Thor, playing Darcy, is Kat Dennings.
        I did a double-take as well, in that photo she looks very much like the actress. But in other photos, meh, not so much.

        • Lazycrockett

          Thank you.

    • safari

      He might literally get his house burned down.

    • Sam_Handwich

      Idiocracy

  • Lazycrockett
    • another_steve

      Shame that these cute boys engage in sexual misconduct.

      I would give it away to him free, any day of the week.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Sam_Handwich

      the video doesn’t play here in the comments (for me anyway) so you might want to click the tweet and watch it

    • safari

      Matthew Spencer Petersen (born 1970) is a member and current Chairman of the United States Federal Election Commission and a nominee to be a United States District Judge of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia.

      FEC chair. Huh. That’d explain a lot.

    • Refugay

      Jesus fucking christ.

    • MikeBx2

      Plays for me and I agree, hoo-boy! smh

    • Karl Dubhe 2

      Man, I’ve gone to some bad interviews. But never, never ever, have I ever done something like that…

      Holy moldy…

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      I couldn’t watch that all.
      Just too cringe-worthy.

  • Mike

    A weasel-worded hollow sort-of threat from Miss South Carolina, that should fill Kim Jong-Un with fear and dread. Disaster averted!

    • Friday

      Considering Drumph is actually nucking futz and never had any competence, there could actually be something to be said for playing the ‘crazier than thou’ card, but he has no clue how to brinksmanship either. (Cause you can’t just tie it up in lawsuits or move onto the next scam when you push too far.)

  • safari

    Programming note (since I always forget): It is 9PM ET and time for Rachael.

    • another_steve

      Tell me when her 10-minute dissertation on the Taft Administration’s Secretary of State’s poodle, “Ethel,” is over.

      • safari

        Okay. But why are you hating on her Ethel story? (Loves me her A-block story telling.)

        • another_steve

          I prefer Lawrence O, to tell ya the truth.

          The typical first few words out of boy’s mouth, come his 10:00 segment, are:

          “Donald Trump, immoral scum bucket monster, reached a new low today….”

          • JCF

            How nice they’re not on at the same time. ;-/

    • McSwagg

      If you ever miss her show, you can listen to the podcast on Stitcher.
      https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/msnbc-rachel-maddow-audio

  • Leo

    So Slate dragged The Hallmark Channel’s Christmas line-up (Nazi’s favorite holiday marathon) to hell and back and it’s beyond amazing: https://slate.com/arts/2017/12/hallmarks-21-movie-christmas-countdown-reviewed.html

    • safari

      But… they air Golden Girls

      • safari
        • Sam_Handwich

          White Christmas!

          • Silver Badger

            Why is that a bad thing? There are Black channels and Hispanic. Asia and India are mostly racially specific. Why not white?

          • Treant

            I’m kind of neutral on that point myself. Hallmark shows white heterosexual people in highly diabetic movies that lack conflict or anybody with real acting chops.

            Therefore, I exercise my right as a viewer and don’t watch it.

            OK, except for the Good Witch series around Hallowe’en. I confess a weakness for those and also that I like Catherine Bell. My bad.

          • Sam_Handwich

            does Hallmark bill itself as a “white channel”?

          • Silver Badger

            Don’t know. Don’t have cable or broadcast. I don’t quite understand why what’s wrong for white people is acceptable for not white people. BTW, I’m not white, more of a beige.

          • Leo

            My understanding was BET’s inception was because mainstream TV didn’t have enough black people to begin with.

        • Silver Badger

          Looks like the covers of a bunch of romance novels. Except the men have more clothes on.

        • William

          All those movies with perfect Canadian hunks.

    • another_steve

      I go to Bel Ami for my holiday programming.

      “Czech Twinks Do Santa, Up and Down.”

    • Leo

      Apparently there’s a lot of JMG readers, etc. trolling the comments on Todd Starnes’ Fox News opinion piece on the Slate opinion piece. Something about S&M and whips: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/12/14/hallmark-christmas-movies-under-fire-for-spreading-caucasian-cheer.html

      • Reality.Bites

        Why accuse us when it’s even more likely to be people who’ve met him, like immediate family members and colleagues?

        • Leo

          lmfao

    • Treant

      I can’t see the image that well, not well enough to read it. Did they include Annie Claus is Coming To Town? Because my slightly hard of hearing mother made me sit through that piece of tripe on Hallmark.

      By the end, I think I had diabetes just from the treacle.

      • safari

        I sometimes listen to audiobooks written by women about gay men. It makes my teeth hurt, but I like it.

    • Lazycrockett

      “Also, in every Hallmark Christmas movie, the opioid epidemic has given way to Christmas Fever. This malady is unnamed and treated as joyful in Hallmarkland, but it culminates in a contagious psychosis in which everyone sees Christmas as the lifeblood of human existence. “

      • Lazycrockett

        “In Christmas Festival of Ice, a minor spinoff of 2015’s Ice Sculpture Christmas, hotshot lawyer Emma (Taylor Cole) meets a 40-year-old, painstakingly swoop-haired, monosyllabic Christmas tree farmer (Damon Runyan). In less than a week, not only does he become her soul mate (sharing a few Yuletide platitudes over peppermint lattes will do that), he also convinces Emma to abandon the law and become a full-time ice sculptor. ”

        wha?

      • safari

        I see Christmas with family as a play in which deviation is not recommended.

      • Treant

        “Ben (Eric Winter) is estranged from his father solely because he refuses to inherit his father’s role as Santa in the annual Christmas parade.”

        It’s good Ben wasn’t gay, his dad would have exsanguinated him and chopped up the body for the dogs.

        • safari

          Nah. We just don’t talk about the gay stuff.

          • Bryan

            -tailswish- Feel free to talk about gay guys named Ben whenever you’d like. But post pics so I can nyaa at them too.

      • Lazycrockett

        OMG!

        “Take The Mistletoe Inn as a typical example. Kim (Alicia Witt), a 40-year-old car dealer, attends a Christmas-themed romance writer’s conference in Vermont, as you do when Garth (Casey Manderson), a pompous yet unpublished romance writer himself, dumps you by saying, “I just need to be with a serious writer right now.” “

      • Treant

        “While G-rated, every Hallmark movie contains many shots that lovingly capture the burning eroticism the birth of our savior ignites—a tongue quivering for eggnog, lips biting at the sight of a man setting an angel atop the tree, orgasm at the assemblage of a train set.”

        This article is epic.

    • Lazycrockett

      Thank you that was fun.

    • safari

      I can’t be too critical.

      It’s better than heroin.

    • Reality.Bites

      Interesting that pretty much NONE of those movies depicting a fantasy America were filmed in the United States.

      The white rural dream is being filmed in suburbs of REALLY big Canadian cities. Cities where most people aren’t white. Suburbs where even more people aren’t white. And suburbs that are largish cities of half a million people each.

      Toronto is 51.6% visible minority. Suburb of Markham is 78% and Brampton is 73%. These are cities

      It’s similar in Vancouver – http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/visible-minorities-now-the-majority-in-5-b-c-cities-1.4375858

      So these movies really do portray unreality upon unreality.

      • William

        You rarely find such wholesome and smoking hot actors in the US. That’s the only reason we watch the Hallmark movies.

  • MarkBuster

    You know… I’m kinda getting into it. i mean, one good ice age and we are wiped out, let the earth start fresh… hopefully with smarter creatures next time. Or Dumber ones that can get past throwing rocks.

    • Friday

      This biosphere was expensive, as was this civilization. There is no such thing as ‘starting fresh’ as things stand.

      • MarkBuster

        well, actually there is. short of total wipe out, a nuclear ice age will just leave lots of dead things and space. eventually the same process will probably create a similar result.

        • Friday

          Not really. The anthropocene era has expended things that can’t be put back, and put in things that won’t just ‘become fresh.’ And when people fuck up the world and civilization, it’s never that tidy anyway. Never. It just sucks more than anyone wants to think about when they think it’s as easy as writing everything off or saying, ‘I’ll be dead so who cares.’

  • Paula

    Oh, Lindseybelle. No missiles for you. You and Trump need to be in the cockpit of a remote controlled bomber, leading the way. What could possibly go wrong?

    • Bryan

      I say suicide you say bomber!

  • Rocco

    Miss Thing has a new boyfriend and the old one isn’t even in the grave yet. Shameless hussy…and the rest of us are all gonna pay. Hopefully, they won’t last too long, I hear the new BF can’t keep it in his pants, and is way cray cray. Here’s hoping….

    • another_steve

      So I tell this same old tired story every couple of months here on JMG. ‘Cause I like telling it.

      Man and I are sitting in a local diner here in Maryland, and in the next booth over are two rednecks. (Yes… we have rednecks here in Maryland.)

      So the two of them are talkin’ politics (you can only imagine), and the one of them says to the other, “You know that Graham guy’s a fag, don’t ya?”

      I swear, that’s what he said.

      They all know.

      May Zeus strike me down dead if every word of the above isn’t 100 percent accurate.

      • safari

        …forget Zeus. What of your cat striking you dead in your sleep?

        • another_steve

          She’s tried.

          I’ve awoken on more than one morning with her on top of my throat, near the point where my windpipe is.

          • safari

            Hugging.

      • Lazycrockett

        Is he though? I mean I wouldn’t be surprised but I have never heard any newsie story bout him in any social setting where a possible suitor could be would be mentioned. Not even DC gossip.

        • safari

          Perhaps he’s asexual.

          Including that, there is something about Lindsey that is queer.

          • Reality.Bites

            It’s possible. Also possible the Ed Koch was (or is, don’t remember or care if he’s dead).

            I don’t know what the percentage of asexual men is, but it’s a safe bet that it’s incredibly lower than than the percentage of sexual men.

            I do think though, that it’s probably possible to conduct a discreet sex life even as a public figure – much more so in Koch or Graham’s youth, when people didn’t walk around with cameras.

            It’s so unusual for a politician to be unmarried that people won’t need evidence to conclude one is gay. When enough people say it, it becomes relatively common knowledge

        • another_steve

          Mike Rogers – Outer-of-Hypocrites Supreme – was said to be on the verge of outing someone really really big. And then Mike retired from the outing-of-hypocrites business. Most regrettably imo.

          I sensed at the time that it was Lindsey Graham.

          Quite possibly wrong, but that was my sense at the time.

  • gaycuckhubby

    Yes!!! Repeal of the Johnson Amendment is out of the final tax bill!

    • safari

      Evidently so are graduate tuition waiver taxes and student loan interest tax deductions. It’s almost like there’s a plan here…

      • Treant

        …there is. But the less it sucks, the less there is to repeal later, and the larger the deficit hole will be.

        Are mortgage deduction cancellations off the table yet?

        • safari

          I mean, we might have to go to 22% corporate rates…

          • Lazycrockett

            Which with the loop holes is actually around 15%.

          • William

            That’s downright cruel!

      • Friday

        It’s almost normalcy if the Repugs are throwing in completely outrageous things just to ‘bargain’ around removing, though. Messed up as that ‘normal’ already was.

      • clay

        Yeah, that “remove all deductions” ended up being bullshit, too.
        This, in no way, is tax reform. It is simply tax cuts, aimed mostly at business owners and money managers.

    • Jay Mills

      you’re easily appeased

    • JohnJay

      Not that it has prevented churches from being political in the past. For years there have been many flagrant abuses… and the IRS and other authorities just will not charge them.

      • safari

        I remember driving to *redacted* because I wanted to *redacted* many patrons as I listened to a Bush-era Sunday era preacher-law thing and was upset because *redacted*.

    • William

      Until tomorrow.

      • gaycuckhubby

        Actually, I think it was taken out because it’s not allowed to be included for parliamentary reasons. I was a little confused but it has something to do with Robert Byrd.

        • clay

          Yeah, the NAWR oil drilling should also show as excised.

  • Leo

    Apparently Reddit now thinks that Harvey Weinstein killed Brittany Murphy.

    I’m think I’m done for the evening.

    • Sam_Handwich

      Leave Brittany alone!!!

    • Silver Badger

      Have a great evening!

    • safari

      I deleted my Reddit account years ago.

      Yes, one can choose their subreddits. The muck will eventually flow into them all.

    • Reality.Bites

      Any new leads on who killed the radio star?

      • safari

        Video. Now with the actual video.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwuy4hHO3YQ

        • greenmanTN

          Unfortunately the only witness was blinded with science so a conviction is unlikely.

          • safari

            I only have third-hand knowledge of such activities.

          • Lazycrockett

            Its really weird that youtube doesn’t have a lot of the official videos from the early 80’s stuff.

          • MUELLER KNOWS

            I wish I was in Tiajuana eating barbecued iguana.

          • Lazycrockett

            Radio.

          • E.J.

            there may be a reason…
            https://youtu.be/iIpfWORQWhU

          • Lazycrockett

            That is manna from heaven.

          • safari

            Lawyers came and killed the video stars…

          • William

            Before MTV, the USA channel had a program called ‘Video Jukebox’. These two videos were in regular rotation.

            https://youtu.be/Ldyx3KHOFXw

            https://youtu.be/6X9tBHX_Fl4

        • Lazycrockett

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPEwluSNzgc

          Few people realize that is Trevor Horn.

          • Lazycrockett
          • Bryan

            OMG YES.
            I see her in my neighborhood from time to time. Just walkin’ the dogs…

          • William

            That brings us to this:
            https://youtu.be/-QUagJo72c8

          • Lumpy Gaga

            Didn’t know there was an official vid for “What the Hell is it this Time?”. TY!

          • Lumpy Gaga

            LOL YT comment on official “Beat the Clock” video:

            Pet Shop Boys heard this and thought… Hey, I’ve got a good idea…

        • Treant

          It wasn’t video, the star was shot at the Copacabana.

          • greenmanTN

            Did the shooter have feathers in her hair and a dress cut down to there?

          • Treant

            She did sit there so refined, as well.

          • Reality.Bites

            I was always puzzled by “there was blood and a single gunshot but just who shot who.”

            In any situation it’s pretty easy to tell who got shot. You may not know who did it, but who got shot? No mystery.

          • Treant

            It was the Seventies, it was a (sexually) confusing time for all of us. But mostly for Barry Manilow.

        • whollyfool

          The Radiohead version of this is fantastic too.

        • greenmanTN
        • William

          I was watching.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Lazycrockett

      #Metoo.

    • SoCalGal20

      Well, if true that sucks, but that investigation is a hot mess anyway with Devin Nunes’ sabotage and meddling. Schiff and Swalwell have have done a great job but thry’re so limited.

      • Lazycrockett

        Can’t go after Mueller when both houses have an investigation going on.

  • Lazycrockett
    • safari

      Everyone knows the House is the stupid chamber.

      Let them fail hard.

    • gaycuckhubby

      I don’t buy it. I don’t know who keeps feeding people reports on Paul Ryan but it seems like there’s a new explosive claim every month or two that never comes to fruition

    • Treant

      Well, if they’re looking for Intelligence in the House, they should probably just shut down permanently.

      • William

        Send Louie Gohmert to look for intelligence.

        • -M-

          Send out…a search party.

        • Treant

          Would he know it if he found it?

          • William

            He’d be afeard of it.

    • Sam_Handwich

      i think the house intel comm investigation is probably the most useless of them all

      • gaycuckhubby

        Yep. They’re a joke. But a move like they’re suggesting might make Mueller pick up the pace. Which is not necessarily a good thing.

        • Cuberly Deux

          Just a guess but I imagine Mueller moves at his own pace.

    • DaddyRay
    • Leo

      Nunes has practically done that already, or am I getting my committee’s mixed up.

    • gaycuckhubby

      Anyone other than this tweeter reporting on this? I’m dubious

    • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

      Ultimately any shutdown will be temporary until a big blue wave crashes down on this dirty pigs after the next congress is seated.

    • SoCalGal20

      Lawrence is talking right now about Ryan wanting to run for president in six years.

      Also, I’m sure Ryan and other Rs are dirty.

      Having said that, the House Intel Committee investigation is a mess. I think Schiff and Swalwell are doing a great job but with Nunes doing everything he can to sabotage it, it’s already compromised.

      • William

        Speaker of the House is a dead end position.

    • clay

      Ryan fed foreign funds to R’s running for House seats.
      He’s dirty.

  • gaycuckhubby

    My political boyfriend McMuffin is on Lawrence tonight!

  • safari

    Lawrence reminds us: should Paul Ryan leave now, he can avoid all blame and come back to champion the fixes he wants for his failures.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I hope so. Because you can’t just get rid of the Dump family. We have to dig out all the crapola behind him.

  • Treant

    In tonight’s online Bible story, the angel came upon them and grunted, “Use more lube,” for they were sore after getting laid.

    Or I think that was what the guy was saying.

  • Reality.Bites

    OT: Ivanka opens store in Trump tower as no one wants to carry her line.

    Washington Post story – no paywall

    https://www.thestar.com/business/2017/12/14/ivanka-trump-opens-her-own-store-in-trump-tower-after-retailers-dropped-her-brand.html

    • safari

      American Girl for unloved adults.

    • Jefe5084

      no one wants to wear the clothing with the tear stains from little children in sweat shops? Not even to support Princess Ivanka’s entitlement and arrogance? Well, I’ll be.

      • Reality.Bites

        I imagine plenty of people who don’t have a problem wearing sweatshop couture still wouldn’t be caught dead in Ivankawear.

    • William

      Putin is buying her crap by the cargo plane load and airdropping over Siberia.

  • gaycuckhubby

    Ughh.. i’m bored. Bring on the beautiful bald man.*

    * yes, I might be a tad tipsy

  • houstonray

    OT: More women coming out against Dustin Hoffman, and new reports include him exposing himself to a minor.

    Then Morgan Spurlock has been dropped by his production company on his latest documentary after he admitted he “is part of the problem” and has at least one woman accusing him of rape.

    The cooking competition “Great American Holiday Bake Off” has been pulled after celebrity judge Johnny Iuzzini was accused by multiple women.

    Now Mario Batali has been fired from The Chew.

    Music mogul Russell Simmons accused of multiple rapes.

    THE HELL?!?!? Come on men (straight and gay), we can do better than this.

    • Reality.Bites

      Perhaps going forward but we can’t change the past.

    • Sam_Handwich

      i’m feeling a little gropey

      • Cuberly Deux

        Finger sandwiches eh?

      • Treant

        (Raises Hand) I give you full pre-emptive permission to grope me anywhere you want in whatever manner pleases you. You may expose yourself and request any sexual activity you wish, and you’ll most likely get it, too.

        Honestly, if you’re a famous man? Get them to sign a fuckin’ contract.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      It’s depressing, isn’t it? I’m glad none of my regular Youtube channels have been affected yet.

    • greenmanTN

      I couldn’t remember what Batali looked like so googled him. I’m still shuddering at the thought.

      • AJ Drew

        Aw, you just haven’t seen him in formal wear: nothing elicits lusts like a man who completes an outfit with a pair of orange crocs.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/86f812beb6d56b5e76d47d42a1aa8114ae2f222dd39413e024db129dbc180adc.jpg

        • Snarkaholic

          Where did he get those items…from Value Shitty’s Desperation Sale rack?

        • Jerry Kott

          Too fat to tie his shoes?

          • AJ Drew

            Maybe so! But I’m a bit color-blind and even I would know *that* entire ensemble is a hot mess.

          • Jerry Kott

            If he put that color combination on a plate, he wouldn’t eat it. There seems to be this concept of “if you don’t attract, just attack”with these zany heterosexual men who don’t know boundaries.

        • safari

          “Band Teacher-chic”

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          I just know that if a woman he found extremely unattractive began grabbing his crotch and rubbing her naked bosom on him, he would be screaming for security.

        • coram nobis

          Yuk. If he wanted to commit a fashion shoe crime then he should have at least worn Uggs.

    • JCF
  • MaryJOGrady

    All military personnel have a duty to refuse illegal orders. First use of nuclear weapons is a war crime by definition.

    • safari

      Except the only airforce officer I’ve heard of (and was on the radio) was released when he asked what would happen if an illegal fire order was commanded.

      • Karl Dubhe 2

        There’s got to be more to that story. Everyone in every military has heard of the Nuremberg defence by now. Well, maybe not in the totalitarian nations…

      • MaryJOGrady

        I’ve read about high-level officers recently saying that they know they must not obey illegal orders.
        I hope there is a gentlemen’s agreement right now among the Joint Chiefs of Staff like the one concocted while Nixon was getting sloppy drunk every night and talking to the portraits on the White House walls, that the Chief Executive does not get to order a nuclear strike on *anywhere*.

    • Karl Dubhe 2

      Mass murder suicide is a war crime now?

      Dang libtards!

      /s

  • Sam_Handwich

    Eggan McMuffin on msnbc

    • gaycuckhubby

      😍😍😍

  • Lazycrockett
    • William

      I can’t understand Bernie Sanders because of his Southern accent.

    • safari

      I have a perverse fantasy.

      Bernie gets hit by a bus after stepping out of his car.

    • greenmanTN
      • safari

        The upper lip scares me. A lot.

      • HozillaSmallpox

        Bernie is not the Kwisatz Haderach

    • Snarkaholic

      So glad he’s here to Bernsplain it to us!

    • Treant

      I’m not going to watch, of course, but I do appreciate anything that snarks on ol’ BS.

    • Cuberly Deux

      OMG…….wut the…..

    • SoCalGal20

      Why is Bernie considered an authority on anything except angry old man?

    • Friday

      *facepalm.* There’s a reason I was screaming at the Bernie people that he had done *zero* to connect with Southern black people, if Super Tuesday wasn’t demonstration enough.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Even if you like Bernie, there are tons of people WAY MORE connected with the win in Alabama than he is. Why are they not interviewing the various orgs that helped get people to the voting booths?

      • Lazycrockett

        Im sure the Head of the Alabama NAACP would be more than happy to talk.

    • JCF

      Points!

  • gaycuckhubby

    I find Lawrence to be pretentious and patronizing and boring. but I won’t say that out loud. I don’t want to be a Russian / Trump / Koch brother troll.

  • gaycuckhubby
    • Lars Littlefield

      Malcontents all.

    • JCF

      It seems like they were {gasp!} human. With normal human emotions of inclinations and disinclinations. Investigation-ruining bias? Hardly.

    • JCF

      Heh-heh.

      “Ms. Page … said a Republican presidential candidate has “long been suspected of being gay.”

      http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/lindsey-graham.jpg

      • William

        Was he a Basset Hound in a previous life?

    • Karl Dubhe 2

      Hated them all, equally?

      Really shouldn’t be a cop, if that’s the attitude.

  • safari
  • Lazycrockett
  • Sam_Handwich

    George Will:

    “By joining Stephen K. Bannon’s buffoonery on Moore’s behalf, the 45th president planted an exclamation point punctuating a year of hitherto unplumbed presidential depths”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-moore-endorsement-sunk-the-presidency-to-unplumbed-depths/2017/12/13/3c245482-e036-11e7-bbd0-9dfb2e37492a_story.html?utm_term=.c79264d28466

    • safari

      George Will’s prose taxes me. He writes well, but often, it seems, to pleasure his own groin over simplicity.

      • safari

        Even Scalia knew when to calm it down.

      • edrex

        i refuse to believe that george will has a groin. he’s like a g.i. joe. no bulge. just smooth emptiness from navel to taint.

        • William

          I have never thought about George Will’s groinal region until now.

          Damn you.

      • greenmanTN

        That was my beef with Olbermann on MSNBC. I agreed with what he said but he overwrote his pieces, was in love with his own vocabulary. He wrote like Edward R Murrow, which was ineffective in a sound byte age.

  • SoCalGal20
  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: A baby penguin being fed.

    https://youtu.be/_a9t-UQi0T4

    • safari

      Some of the first English scientists studying them had to switch to Latin in their logs… because they were disturbing in their habits.

    • Lazycrockett

      I’ll pass on regurgitation.

      • safari

        Why? Lazy eat.

      • Treant

        A guy once threw up on me while he was…

        But maybe I should just let that one fester in the recesses of my subconscious.

        • Natty Enquirer

          Occupational hazard.

          • Lumpy Gaga

            Of the two ends possible, I think you got the better deal.

        • William

          It happens.

        • Karl Dubhe 2

          It could be worse, very very much worse…

          Dear god in heaven, if I never think of that again it’ll be too soon.

  • MikeBx2
    • Treant

      I do, too, but once my underwear is thoroughly soaked, I expect you to take it off me and get down to business.

    • bkmn

      Well, Democratic members of the Senate Intel committee have been issuing requests for material from several Trump staffers/transition team members. The last few times this has happened Mueller has issued indictments within days.

    • Leo

      Kushner. It’s Kushner.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      With that kind of teasing, I’ll be disappointed if it’s not Kushner level.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer
    • safari

      Donald fell down the stairs in search of Diet Coke?

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        He was pushed. By Melania.

    • safari
      • MikeBx2

        Of course they are.

      • Lazycrockett

        Jesus Fucking Christ.

        • Cuberly Deux

          To clarify, WE’LL be getting fucked.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        It’s like they WANT their houses to be egged.

        • Lazycrockett

          I guess the plan is fuck america, get voted out and then when the DEMS raise taxes back to normal levels, run on that and retake the Congress and Presidency.

      • William

        Hooray!

      • William

        Damn his face is swole up.

      • clay

        But the corporate, money manager, and business owner tax cuts are permanent.

    • safari

      Donald found the destruct codes for the nation and wants Pence and Tillerson to tell theirs to the computer?

  • Treant

    OT: This one is a little too strange not to post. Trading sex for leftover chicken alfredo and Sprite? I mean, I’ve had worse evenings, I suppose, but…

    https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/12/guy-busted-trying-trade-chicken-alfredo-sprite-sex-underage-boy/

    • Lazycrockett

      Now if it was shrimp instead of chicken……………………

      • Treant

        A nice vegetable medley with light spices. And throw out the Sprite, I demand a blended kale.

        • Lumpy Gaga

          In Youngstown, Sprite is a salad.

    • AJ Drew

      That actual story is rather awful, but I’ll credit the writer for some decent snark:

      (Fun fact: “Importuning” means to pressure someone into something; it does not mean being too cheap to pick up Olive Garden.)

    • another_steve

      The real crime there was leftover chicken alfredo. Everyone knows that chicken alfredo doesn’t over-night well.

      Or “should know,” that is.

      • Rob NYNY

        Save some of the pasta water. The little bit of the starch in the pasta water stabilizes the alfredo sauce. It also works for carbonara, another sauce that does not keep well.

    • greenmanTN

      Like there aren’t rent boys in your town carrying sacks of artisanal soap? 😉

    • William

      There is leftover pasta in my fridge, if anyone wants to drop in.

  • bkmn

    For those looking for the Great American Baking Show it has been pulled because judge Johnny Iuzzini has been accused of being too hands on with some of his female staff. The entire rest of the series has been pulled. The winner will be announced at some later time.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2017/12/14/abc-severs-ties-johnny-iuzzini-pulls-great-american-baking-show-amid-sexual-harassment-alleg/951201001/

  • Treant

    Does anybody have any DRUGS? I’m LOOKING TO SCORE SOME DRUGS!

    (On Family Guy right now and it hit me funny).

    • safari

      A memory. Freshman year. As I sit at my desk in my dorm room:

      Someone shouts: “Ahhh. Does anybody have some weed? I need some weed!”

      Response shout: “Yeah. Stop by.”

      • Treant

        BTDT. I kind of remember my Freshman year, but honestly, mostly it’s a blur of the back of guy’s heads.

        • another_steve

          Well that’s because you’re a hedonistic slut, Treant.

          I went through a period in university when I felt I was there for an education.

          I quickly got over it.

          • Bryan

            Over it because you were over it?…. Or because it was hidden in your basement? What’d you do with Scholar Steve, Slut Steve? Where is he? Why are there screams of pain and joy coming from underneath your house. You know Sexatoriums are illegal…..without a permit.

          • another_steve

            I had a sexatorium constructed in my basement, yes. Semicircular seating for 60. Reclining seats, drink trays attached. Cost me a bundle.

            Then the Mueller investigation started creeping closer and closer to Jared Kushner, my planned attraction. Interest in the enterprise dropped. Shareholders pulled out.

            I’m in negotiations now with Martin Shkreli.

            Beggars can’t be choosers.

          • Bryan

            I can’t hear you or your naked fey victim, tell him to speak louder into the rag full of refreshing healthy chloroform, it’s good for what ails ya.

  • Lars Littlefield
    • bkmn

      That’s the big problem with the right wing mindset. You manufacture all these problems that aren’t really problems while you ignore real problems all around you.

      • Lars Littlefield

        But chem trails are causing frogs to grow three legs and turning them gay!

        • Sam_Handwich

          soon they will be demanding cakes from America’s persecuted Christian bakers

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a6986bf8112a3e68c0237ee92fd60cbd8cf43784221521b3cf1f43faf0246d3d.jpg

        • Bryan

          YOU FOOL! You know that’s itself part of the cover-up! The chem-trails to make the frogs gayfictize and what grow dat third leg out they breathe-sac is all part of a distraction! It’s aliens, you know it, I know it, the reynolds wrap in your kitchen whut be the only way to save y’all all definitely knows it. They coverin’ it up but you ain’t know that because they covered up the cover up with another coverup it was all agencies but nobody is talkin’, cept’ this one person but they aren’t oh but they look like they cook in they garage and have a Ph.D from an unaccredited university – unaccredited because the government doesn’t want YOU knowing the truth.

          That really really hurt to fabricate. I need to go nurse my tender synapses and neurotransmitters. Made my dendrites ache.

        • clay

          too late, frogs are now up to four legs, and they can switch sex.

          • Lars Littlefield

            Ahhgggg!

    • Lazycrockett

      We are heading towards another terrorist attack. A big one. Its like watching the Bush administration bungle things all over again.

      • Rob NYNY

        Reichstag fire.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • DaddyRay

      I hope Mueller has some surprises of he own tomorrow

    • safari
      • Cuberly Deux

        Ok, Kate McKinnon is a treasure, but that gif HURTS to watch.

        • Bryan

          All shall die before the inhuman nightmare that is Kellywise the Psychotic Elder Godlown.

          • Cuberly Deux

            Noooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • William

        Is this a sign of the End Times?

      • Sam_Handwich

        i think that is perfect parody

    • Cuberly Deux

      Posted it earlier but Chuck Todd and Bill Kristol were insinuating that something was going down, from the chatter they’ve been hearing.

      Kristol in particular was almost about to burst, from the look on his face.

      • safari

        But burst over what? Donald? The GOP? Tax bill? Ryan? Melania’s blood forest?

        • Cuberly Deux

          Yeah both Todd and Kristol sort of locked eyes for a quick second and Kristol just sort of super grinned his grinny grin. …..along with Todd. In fact, Todd was almost fighting back springing some sort of news. It was more than intriguing.

          ?????????

      • Sam_Handwich

        well it IS friday tomorrow

        and whatever the fuck it is, i hope it puts the brakes on the #GOPTaxScam

        • Cuberly Deux

          Ramen!

        • William

          Maybe something about those four sealed indictments?

          • clay

            Will there be trumpet sounds as they break the seals?

        • TonberryPi

          Don’t forget it’s also Hanukkah!

    • KnownDonorDad
  • Blake J Butler
  • That_Looks_Delicious

    OT – Ummmm, isn’t this what Trent Franks was trying to do?
    Totally in Handmaiden territory now. This has been the weirdest year (politically and in other ways) that I can remember.

    https://twitter.com/thinkprogress/status/941491775558037504

    • Sam_Handwich

      there is this contingent of white male religious conservatives who are absolutely obsessed with reproduction. over the years i’ve determined that it must be a fetish with them

      • Cuberly Deux

        The fact they sort of randomly decided that birth control in general was abortion. Wow, did that come out of left field.

        Destruction of modernity seems to be a compulsion now.

    • Cuberly Deux

      Don’t we elect THEM to work for US. Not sit on their velvet couches and lecture us?

      Can I take one of his photo-op double washed skillets and land it up side his entitled egg head?

      Today’s GOP, more than willing to lecture you. FUCK THEM SIDEWAYS!

    • Refugay

      I swear I was just telling my husband that the raise more babies is missing from this fascist movement. We see it in religion these days, and of course in Israel but I here it is. MAGA Scouts?!

      • greenmanTN

        MAGA Youth, please.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      The ironic thing is that women would have more kids if there was free prenatal care, guaranteed maternity leave and low-cost childcare. But no, they want women to spew out babies out one end while typing & cooking at a frenzied pace at the other.

      Meanwhile, America has one of the shittiest maternal death rates for a developed country.

      • zhera

        Exactly!

        And notice how Ryan puts the responsibility of children on women. Are they to have these kids without men’s involvement?

        It’s a blame game, and Ryan is setting the scene for when he gets to fulfill his wettest dream of all: Destroying Medicare, Medicaid, and all programs that help people.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Someone needs to tell this asshole he’s pushing an idea close to the Nazi’s Lebensborn.

      http://www.spiegel.de/international/nazi-program-to-breed-master-race-lebensborn-children-break-silence-a-446978.html

      “Some 8,000 children were born in Germany and around 12,000 in Norway as part of Lebensborn, formed by SS leader Heinrich Himmler to encourage women of “pure blood” to bear blond, blue-eyed children.

      Historians have refuted the public’s perception that it was a system of Nazi stud farms where SS zealots mated with each other. But it was an integral part of a murderous racial policy that stretched from the forced sterilization of people with hereditary diseases to the killing of 6 million Jews.”

      • I had no idea more there were more lebensborn in Norway than Germany. I just read that A famous survivor is Anni-Frid Lyngstad, a member of the music group ABBA on wiki. Finding out that you are a lebensborn must be extremely traumatic for many people.

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          From the article, it’s even more traumatic if other people know you are one.

    • Lazycrockett

      He means white women.

    • Max_1

      More babies… More soldiers.
      More money for war… Ca-ching!

    • KnownDonorDad

      Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.

    • SoCalGal20

      Uh, your immoral and unethical tax cuts (also RENEW CHIP asshole) make it even more difficult to afford having children. Also, fuck you. You don’t get to tell me what I should do with my body.

  • bkmn

    This is fucking incredible. Sen. Kennedy (R-LA) asks basic questions of Trump judge nominees, who can’t answer one of them. Guessing these people are being nominated because they are good Christians who promise to rule the way Fraudlin and friends want them to.

    https://twitter.com/SenWhitehouse/status/941484131757838337

    • Sam_Handwich

      i’m guessing his nomination will be withdrawn around 4:45pm tomorrow.

      • bkmn

        Yup, just late enough not to make the evening news.

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          As long as it’s withdrawn, I’m good with it at the moment.

    • safari

      He’s the chair of the Federal Election Commission.

      • Sam_Handwich

        he should probably get a nose job and move to Argentina

    • another_steve

      I watched one minute of it and started to cry.

      I had to turn it off.

    • gaycuckhubby

      I missed that it was a Republican doing the questioning. Wow

    • Max_1

      KAKISTOCRACY…
      [kak-uh-stok-ruh-see]

      noun, plural kakistocracies.
      1. government by the worst persons; a form of government in which the worst persons are in power.

    • Max_1

      LOL… O.M.G. The ending is worth the wait!!!
      “Let the record reflect everybody said, “No”.

      “We’ll see, my pretties…”
      https://rasica.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/wicked-witch.gif

    • KnownDonorDad

      Chuck Grassley is defending us from incompetent nominees at this point. Chuck. Grassley.

      • clay

        Sort of– his committee did approve two of them, but then called for a do-over.

  • safari
    • Sam_Handwich

      sumpin’s up! which reminds me to plug in my phone right now, because i’m off on an organ tuning job tomorrow

      • DaddyRay

        Organ Tuning – is that what the kids are calling it these days

        • safari

          With bigly blowers.

        • another_steve

          That, and “starbucking.”

          Ooh, big boy. How’d ya like me to starbuck you tonight?

          • Sam_Handwich

            an assfuck and a complimentary espresso bean?

          • another_steve

            Light on the foam, please.

          • Lumpy Gaga

            Oh, which you pass through your… oh, never mind. Too gross for me.

          • DaddyRay

            Seaman Latte

          • JCF

            Mmmmm, Starbuck! [Probably not who you were thinking of, a_s. ;-)]

            http://thumbs.modthesims2.com/img/3/1/3/3/7/MTS_HystericalParoxysm-478303-Starbuck-5.jpg

          • KnownDonorDad

            I approve.

          • another_steve

            Lol. Yes, Katee Sackhoff is drop-dead gorgeous.

            You have good taste in women, JCF. 😉

          • JCF

            Thanks! I recently rewatched the BSG pilot: KS’s introduction as Starbuck is one of the GREAT character debuts of the last 20 years, IMO. The cigar! The poker hand! Punching out Saul! 😀 Adama: “What do you hear?” Starbuck: “Nuthin’ but the rain.” Adama: “Go bring in the cat.”

          • JCF

            OK, let me share another image. You know how you say “lesbians are always going on and on about Xena”? There’s SO much reason! I just finished an episode of “Xena Warrior Podcast” reviewing a fave episode, “Adventures in the Sin Trade” (P1—ignore the rather silly ep title). The story: believing her dead, Xena has gone to the Amazon Land of the Dead (hence the shaman outfit), to look for Gabrielle. But her past has (per always) caught up to her, and she decides she must right one of her many wrong, in the land of the living. So—speaking in the direction of Eternity, where she believes Gabrielle to be—she tells Gabrielle why she can’t come after her. This whole stunning sequence of shots is GIF’d here: http://fallenandrogyne.tumblr.com/post/127550353772/hyxenagabrielle-xena-puts-others-before But I’ll include just one below. As I recently commented the XWPodcast site, the broad planes of Lucy Lawless’s face, illuminated in a wintry New Zealand light, is like a canvas of GORGEOUSNESS. *Thud!*

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6f9e67863c8fa87ccf962e10476151864accf62b6c0bdb4592df8b79adf75ce4.gif

          • another_steve

            I can easily see why queer women are gaga over Lucy Lawless’s Xena. A strong beautiful woman.

            I like her strong facial features. I’m not into the “super-fem” stereotypical look, which is why I semi-freaked out when I saw that Caitlyn Jenner Vanity Fair cover.

            That’s just me however. Lots of folks feel differently and have different tastes when it comes to physical appearance.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/22153b98eecad5b1fe9f8982df5279383159a3e4863b92a9139353172b1e138a.jpg

          • JCF

            [Sorry I’m so late to respond here, a_s.]

            Ah, the ambivalence (to the image posted above). Fierce, gorgeous? Absolutely! But the pic above is from the series finale “A Friend in Need” (P2). Aka “FIN” (in the French sense!). The Xena series finale was WIDELY condemned for, well

            the fact that Xena dies. And, unlike previous eps, STAYS dead. Leaving Gabrielle alone (except, perhaps, as a ghost. Or is she just Gabrielle’s memory? Delusion?).

            At the time, I thought it was a beautifully tragic finale (and not out of character, for our tragically-conflicted Anti-Hero/Hero). But then again, I EXPECTED a movie: sooner, rather than later!

            And that never happened. And likely never will. 🙁

          • another_steve

            Gay women – female-loving women in general – have so much to contribute to the world of popular culture. I think this is an undervalued asset, overall.

            Woman-loving-woman culture is different from gay male culture.

            We need to see and hear more of it on the small and big screen.

        • clay

          Better than where my mind went– I was thinking liver, pancreas, hypothalamus.

      • bkmn

        need some chap stik?

    • Cuberly Deux

      Is this why Donnie has been tripping over his words, more than usual?

      • safari

        One can dream.

    • MikeBx2

      whoa!

    • greenmanTN
    • gaycuckhubby

      I mean, I hope so!
      You know what they say, when you’ve lost another_steve…..

    • JCF

      Jared going down? Or per his (and my) book’s Ecclesiastes 3, could Jared be gettin’ ready to???

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCcFyR0MITQ

      • Lumpy Gaga
        • Max_1

          Don’t say, “Jared going down” around another_steve…

        • JCF

          I said this at the time of Our Edie’s passing: for the bio pic, Lea Michele? [And I suggested Kristen Stewart as Thea: I know I might get some blowback on that one, but physical presence: taller, younger, butch-er, swagger. All lines up w/ Thea—at least as I’ve seen young Thea in pictures!]

          And gf knows what she’s doing. 😉

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4kpVO56OBU

  • DaddyRay
    • DaddyRay

      All of Dems in Congress should learn this before next months State of the Union

      • MikeBx2

        I’d tune in for that.

        • DaddyRay

          The press could practice every day at the White House Press Briefings

    • Max_1

      I would like to see a Democrat stand up and scream… “YOU LIE”.

  • gaycuckhubby
    • Lazycrockett

      Over course they investigate the black man , while Harvey gets a pass after being wire tapped.

      • gaycuckhubby

        The police have confirmed they opened up a criminal investigation into Weinstein. Unless something changed.

        Also statute of limitation might be different because Simmons is being accused of violent rape.

        Or it might be racism

        • Lazycrockett

          The woman who was assaulted by Harvey went to the police, reported the incident and then wore a wire, went back to Harvey got him admitting it on tape, and went back to the cops. Nothing was done.

          • gaycuckhubby

            Shit. I hadn’t seen that.
            I haven’t followed up on Weinsteins accusations much.
            I know they opened up another investigation. I hope the victim you’re talking about ends up with some kind of justice

    • EdA

      RUSSELL Simmons?? I thought it was RICHARD Simmons. /snark/

  • kareemachan

    Milksop.

  • MikeBx2
    • safari

      Beautiful creatures.

    • DaddyRay

      Cute but I am over giving Russians any clicks

    • another_steve

      This morning we witnessed a female red fox trying to evade an amorous male red fox.

      The girl ran down our driveway and apparently left her scent along the way, which the male detected and tried to follow – but she somehow evaded him and left him standing there, wondering where the hell she went.

      • JCF

        Heh-heh. For this lil’ drama, I’m hearing a foxy Phil Collins:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ns91024Gz8

        • another_steve

          Thanks for posting that, JCF. I’ve always loved that song.

          The combination of Phil Collins’ exquisite voice and a drop-dead gorgeous song is quite the treat.

          • JCF

            The arrangement is really something, isn’t it? I’m remembering myself harmonizing in my dorm shower: up top, “turn around and see me cry!” Ah, the 80s…

  • another_steve

    There’s a 70% chance that I’ll get up to urinate at least six times tonight.

    • safari

      The internet is whispering that Jared will be in the news tomorrow. You should try to sleep tonight.

      • William

        Will it involve leg irons?

      • another_steve

        I’ve more or less distanced my sexual fantasy life from him.

        I briefly considered the possibility of disguising myself as Ivanka and demanding of the prison warden conjugal visiting time with Jared, but I don’t have the strength for it.

    • Sam_Handwich

      happee holidays!

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        Merry Muellermas!

    • gaycuckhubby

      Wet dreams mean something else?

      • another_steve

        They’ve tried all the medications on me.

        Essentially what’s left is the option of having my prostate and urinary tract surgically removed and replaced with a tube connected to a bedpan.

        • gaycuckhubby

          🙁

        • Look up this. It is very new- Prostate artery embolization. Look at treatment in Israel and Mexico, very safe and non-invasive. Worth a try.
          https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/170308081100.htm

        • Sam_Handwich

          (((steve)))

          • Lumpy Gaga

            I agree with the sandwich doing seasonal mall work.

        • William

          There’s some interesting work being done with microwaves regarding prostate cancer.

          No, they do not shove an Amana Radarange up your ass.

          • Hue-Man

            Then how do you fit in the microwave on your kitchen counter? Who do you get to close the door?

          • William

            You need a bucket of lard and a circus cannon.

          • another_steve

            Hey, the idea of popping popcorn out of my ass is kinda appealing, actually.

    • Cuberly Deux

      Well, full disclosure, after 2 prostate biopsies over 3 years, and a prostate MRI last week, got the results this past tues.

      Lo and behold the MRI indicates I have a low chance for (visible?) cancer. Alas my PSA is still very high, and of course my urologist says I need yet another biopsy. Something for the younger ones to look forward to, having the equivalent of a staple gun shoved up your ass and set off. NOT fun. A bit of advice, ASK FOR THE VALIUM prior to the procedure. Won’t go into the details of the healing process. Cuz it’s super gross.

      Opted to hold off till next year. I read a heck of a lot online and read studies, theres such a penchant for over-prescribing tests. And I have yet to have a health professional spell out options, what else could be giving me such a high PSA.

      Sorry, it’s been a stressful week.

      • Max_1
        • Cuberly Deux

          🙂

      • William

        Newer treatments are better than the old traditional varieties.

        • Cuberly Deux

          Doing a fair amount of online research. There’s a fair number of people that have been asking the same questions coming from the same sort of history.

        • Cuberly Deux

          Yeah, I’m going to take some time and look at some options. Or at least look for more information.

          • William

            Surgical intervention methods twenty years ago were Medieval. There are many more less invasive techniques available now or in the works. Look for studies at clinicaltrials.gov and NIH.

          • Cuberly Deux

            Cool, thanks William.

            From what I’ve been reading there’s a definite over abundance of testing. Not that I’ll avoid testing altogether, I just want to educate myself some more.

          • William

            This is when you want a doctor who keeps up with advances in medicine. Don’t pick a 65 year old doctor who has done the same ‘one size fits all’ surgery for the last 30+ years.

      • JCF

        {{{Cuberly}}}

        • Cuberly Deux

          Thanks JCF 😉

      • canoebum

        Before you go through that again, may I suggest you get a second opinion? If it were me, and a urologist had 2 biopsies with negative results and was suggesting a 3rd, I’d be out the door looking for a new guy, preferably one without boat payments.

        • Cuberly Deux

          Actually this is the third urologist I’ve gone to. Due to changes in my insurance I’ve had to change providers, the one that I liked had to move back east to take care of his ailing father.

          It sure seems like the first thing they always recommend is the biopsy. It’s rather maddening. I’m going to some investigating. This testing loop just isn’t helping, and it’s stressing me out.

      • another_steve

        I’ve been reading the studies. There’s controversy in the medical community as to whether PSA tests should be given, routinely, to asymptomatic patients. There’s a chance of false high readings that can lead to patient anxiety and, in some cases, surgery that may not be warranted and that carries unpleasant and sometimes permanent side-effects.

        There’s a saying you may be familiar with, Cuberly: “Most men die with prostate cancer, not from it.”

        I wish you peace in the years ahead, my friend.

        • Cuberly Deux

          Well, I am at risk. My brother had prostate cancer and underwent surgery to has his removed. Though after talking about it with him I’m beginning to wonder if he needed to undergo surgery.

          And, due to changes in my insurance I’ve gone through 3 separate urologists in the past 3 years. I keep having to start over with a new one and every one I go to they recommend a biopsy even though the prior two found nothing.

          I’m looking at more info. I’m just not convinced this testing loop is helping me. One thing for sure, it stresses me the fuck out.

          Thanks Another Steve 😉

          • another_steve

            Love to you, Cuberly.

            You’re one of my favorite commenters here on JMG.

          • Cuberly Deux

            Awww, thanks Steve.

            And right back attcha.

            Your interesting search results never fail to amuse. 😉

    • Max_1

      Depends… What about that mystery 30%?

      • Karl Dubhe 2

        That’s what Depends are for, right?

        It’ll suck to have to get used to wearing them when I’m old enough, I like sleeping raw.

  • Cuberly Deux
  • octobercountry
    • JCF

      🙁 Not the horsies in that radioactive dust!

      • David L. Caster

        Notice that the horses were wearing breathing apparatus—equine gas masks—or at least respirators that would filter out particulates.

        • Karl Dubhe 2

          IIRC, the nco’s mentioned that in the event of a nuclear war gas masks wouldn’t be much use. 🙂 They said we should bend over and kiss our asses goodbye if the Russians launched.

  • DaddyRay

    This is probably close to the real motive behind the Net Neutrality ruling today
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8c4720b1f3724b2e90b0e092954bf1d397e0e2f0b9ae2625ef583c41c0e2edc7.jpg

  • Did everyone catch the Quinnipiac College open-ended poll yesterday – asking people to respond with one word when they heard the word “Trump”? Out of the top 10 responses 3 were positive. https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2507

    #1 — idiot
    #2— liar
    #3— incompetent
    #4- leader
    #5 – strong
    #6 – “a**hole (note – how the polling org reported the word)
    #7 – great
    #8 – moron
    #9- arrogant
    #10 – disgusting

    • MikeBx2

      String 3, 2 and 1 together and you’ve got yourself a complete description of him.

    • Sam_Handwich

      don’t tell the “strong great leader” types that Dotard hasn’t scored a single significant legislative victory, despite his party controlling both houses, and has a job approval hovering around 35%

      • clay

        Or, rather, DO tell them, repeatedly.

    • Sam_Handwich

      “disgusting” is my #1 choice in that batch of descriptives

    • JCF

      3 out of 10 are positive (4,5, 7)

      And there you have the hardcore 30% DrumpfenKorp.

    • canoebum

      #11 – vindictive

    • Reality.Bites

      I call fake news. No way “shitgibbon” isn’t in the top ten.

  • Blake J Butler

    A certain person who refused to help in Alabama is now taking credit for things he has never done and is infact using Alabama to campaign off of for campaign money. And he is totally getting his wrinkly ass tore up for it. Much deserved.

    Thank you.

    • Reality.Bites

      I am not wishing for bad things to happen to Bernie Sanders.

      I’m just saying that when Trump keels over from that fatal heart attack he has to fall on something.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • This is very funny. The 10 Commandments does not ban necrophilia, does it? https://youtu.be/fCV8j3VSsXs

      • Mikey

        I’ve seen it before, it’s hysterical.
        do you know where it’s from?

        • There was a comedy TV show in Israel called “the Jews are coming” It was in very bad taste and funny. Here is a skit about the Eichmann trial. Can you believe they got away with broadcasting this? you can catch others on YouTube – search for “the Jews are coming”. https://youtu.be/RXasnfAF3SE

  • Blake J Butler
    • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

      When’s the good guys get in control of congress. There need to be an investigation into the PR response

    • Mikey

      awesome.

  • Max_1
  • leastyebejudged

    Sounds scientific.

  • safari
    • Lazycrockett

      good for him.

    • JCF

      Going Star Trek to Star Wars? Ooh, I bet that set a few nerds off (and that’s BEFORE they recognized who it was!)

      • Bryan

        Just got home from it, and have pretty much the same reaction as Wil. A few guys showed up in Enterprise outfits and yes, it did trigger nerds, even mom had to make a joke about it – 2 gold one blue. Or maybe three gold one blue, we’ve an AMC – MacGuffins is pure Love.

        • JCF

          But didja like the movie???? [No spoilers!]

          • Bryan

            Indeed, I did. There’s a lot to unpack. A lot of scenes that’ll become really iconic someday.

      • Reality.Bites

        Wil did that on an episode of the Big Bang Theory.

        I sometimes like to imagine that a race of space aliens watches that show and think that Wil Wheaton and Stephen Hawking are just characters made up for the show like Professor Proton and are clearly played by beloved actors like Bob Newhart.

    • clay

      That shirt, that hair (and beard), those glasses . . .
      well, this adult decides that means ‘full nerd’.

  • Max_1

    BECAUSE OF TRUMP, JESUS’S HOMETOWN, NAZARETH, IS CANCELING CHRISTMAS
    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-jesus-nazareth-christmas-cancelled-748736

    Nazareth, the mostly Muslim town in current-day Israel where Christians believe Jesus Christ was raised, canceled all Christmas celebrations this year, saying that President Donald Trump had taken the joy out of the holiday.

    The decision by Mayor Ali Salam to cancel festivities was made in protest of Trump’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, a move the Muslim mayor, who once compared himself to Trump, found offensive.

    “Our identity and faith aren’t up for debate,” Salam said during a press conference Thursday. “The decision [by Trump about Jerusalem] has taken away the joy of the holiday, and we will thus cancel the festivities this year.”

    #WINNING…
    (insert baby jesus falling asleep from all the winning gif)

  • William

    Damn it, I’m still awake. When is the news breaking????

    https://youtu.be/2zcVnNwAHys

    • JT

      “There’s gonna be a lot of garbage today.”

    • clay

      Oh, honey, switch over to BBC or AlJazeera at that time of morning.

  • Max_1

    Sorry but… I don’t do book of face so I can’t embed video because no tubes of you are available as of posting. BUT… here is the link to an excellent ambush video.

    Stephen Moore, author of the tax scam, admits the truth about …

    Our Executive Director Alex Lawson confronted Stephen Moore, author of the tax scam – and got him to admit the truth about the bill.
    https://www.facebook.com/socialsecurityworks/videos/vb.137389882951546/1752048894818962/?type=2&theater

  • Tulle Christensen

    OT it is already the 15th and I have still not got a present for my sister, I have no idea what a 67 year old woman might like. Anyone have any ideas?

    • Dazzer

      A silk scarf with interesting colours.

      If she doesn’t like it, she can give to someone else.

    • JohnJay

      Old standby… a gift card for Olive Garden (or any other restaurant chain of their choice)

    • JT

      Perfume is usually welcome. Do you know what she likes?

    • Tulle Christensen

      Thanks everyone for the good ideas

    • clay

      soap

    • TuuxKabin

      What’s the rush? /s

      A contribution to an organization she may support? In her name?

    • ZRAinSWVA

      Have you considered just asking her? (We gave up the gift exchange a long time ago and just give gifts to charity…much less stress and serves a true purpose instead of just giving people ‘stuff’)

      • Tulle Christensen

        Of course I asked her, I ask her every year, she wants some fleece lined driving gloves. but I have to keep up the tradition of not getting a family member what they ask for. What is the fun in that?

        • clay

          so, socks and underwear,
          really, really, un-sexy underwear,
          maybe fleece-lined underwear.

        • BobSF_94117

          Go Grinchy and get her driving gloves without fleece.

    • zhera

      A goat in Africa.

    • OdieDenCO

      a 27 yo man?

      • William

        I need one of those too.

    • Mikey

      one of those nice battery-operated cylindrical massage units? I hear they are wonderful for back-aches.

    • MBear

      Split crotch panties and rhinestone studded nipple clamps

    • GeneInSJ

      Maybe something like a gift certificate to a nail salon, or something like that?

  • SDG

    70, not 75, and not 65. And he knows this…. how, exactly? Asshole. What’s interesting is that now… the US is 100% open to negotiations… and Tillerson, is not fired.

  • The Professor

    Life is lonely in the closet. I wonder if he gets accused of sexual misconduct?

    • JT

      He’s all right because the military are behind him.

      • The Professor

        Hot.

  • JT
  • J Ascher

    If Washington does any more sabre-rattling toward North Korea, China should indicate it will sell off its US assets, precipitating a steep decline in the dollar’s value. That, if nothing else, will get Trump’s attention!

    • E.J.

      They could just refuse to export any iPhones. There would be riots in the streets

      • Reality.Bites

        It’s one thing to fuck with the United States and another thing entirely to fuck with Tim Cook.

  • Boreal
    • ChrisMorley

      Thanks. I normally do an early morning stable-sweep to get rid of the job scammers, but am late today.
      The Australian report on Catholic Child Abuse is just out.

      How ever did you guess?
      Catholic church dismisses key recommendations from landmark inquiry into child abuse https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/dec/15/royal-commission-final-report-australia-child-abuse

      • ChrisMorley

        PS Now REPORTED and FLAGGED the shit out of Fake “Judith” and “Lavina” anyway.

        • Ragnar Lothbrok

          Your service is commendable.

      • Marjorie

        Google is paying 97$ per hour,with weekly payouts.You can also avail this.
        On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $11752 this last four weeks..with-out any doubt it’s the most-comfortable job I have ever done .. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
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  • Boreal

    OT:
    Sought means he already has them.

    Mueller Sought Emails of Trump Campaign Data Firm
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/mueller-sought-emails-of-trump-campaign-data-firm-1513296899

    • JT

      Sharpen the guillotine!

    • SoCalGal20

      The Mueller investigation leaks are usually something that happened a while ago. It’s interesting to see how things leak from that investigation.

  • Boreal

    OT:
    ‘People who say Fox News is their most-trusted news network have been
    losing confidence in P̶r̶e̶s̶i̶d̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶Trump, according to new data from Suffolk
    University.

    Trump’s favorability rating has dropped 32 points between June and
    December among respondents who said they trust Fox over any other news
    network. In June, the number was 90 percent, and in December, just 58
    percent, according to the data first reported by The Washington Post.’
    http://thehill.com/homenews/media/364925-poll-trump-favorability-declines-among-those-who-say-fox-is-their-most-trusted

    • JT

      Sinking in even to stupid people.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I only wish that it would make them lose confidence in Faux News.

      • Boreal

        That would require some modicum of intelligence.

  • Ninja0980

    Off to NYC for the day.
    Will be sure to post photos later on!

  • JT

    The latest version of Chrome doesn’t seem to allow you to open all the bookmarks in a folder (at least the obvious “open all bookmarks” doesn’t seem to work anymore). Does anyone know how to do it?

  • Karl Dubhe 2

    O/T Daymn…

    The first chapter of “Democracy in Chains” is very interesting. Have any of you heard of this book?

  • Tom Furgas

    I imagine the Nuclear Clock has just advanced to 15 seconds before midnight.

  • Puckfair52

    I thought we already had a wait till you lunatic father gets home warning months ago

  • Charles Nelson

    Trump hated his Samsung refrigerator and his KIA. In the first couple of minutes after an American attack on North Korea, both companies will be blasted out of existence by NR retaliation.

  • JoyZeeBoy

    And I would say there’s a 100% chance that Ms. Graham is as gay as it gets!