PolitiFact Awards Trump “2017 Lie Of The Year” Over His Claim That Russia Didn’t Interfere In 2016 Election

PolitiFact reports:

A mountain of evidence points to a single fact: Russia meddled in the U.S. presidential election of 2016. In both classified and public reports, U.S. intelligence agencies have said Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered actions to interfere with the election. Those actions included the cyber-theft of private data, the placement of propaganda against particular candidates, and an overall effort to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process.

Trump continually asserts that Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election is fake news, a hoax or a made-up story, even though there is widespread, bipartisan evidence to the contrary. When the nation’s commander-in-chief refuses to acknowledge a threat to U.S. democracy, it makes it all the more difficult to address the problem. For this reason, we name Trump’s claim that the Russia interference is a hoax as our Lie of the Year for 2017.

  • safari

    Trump’s lawyers are now demanding a special council to investigate the special council.

    • DaddyRay

      Mueller must be getting too close

      • Karl Dubhe 2

        Mueller is about to be fired.

        Constitutional crisis to follow soon afters.

        • DaddyRay

          But what does a Constitutional crisis mean if Congress won’t do their job and start impeachment hearings

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            Congressional crisis

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            Exactly that. 🙂

        • Tawreos

          The way the congress has been going Trump will Fire Mueller and congress will do nothing about it and find some bullshit reason why it is ok.

        • medaka

          This is why I loves me some Seth. He had a long “What if Mueller is fired?” thread a few days ago. I think the answer was “bedlam” and all scenarios were described in beautiful detail.

          https://twitter.com/SethAbramson

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Yeah but who is going to investigate the investigators investigating the original investigators ?

      • The lawyers who are the lawyers for the lawyers?

    • JCF

      For a second, I read that as “They’re demanding a Politifact to investigate Politifact”!

  • bkmn
    • kareemachan

      You forgot “Hillary” and “Benghazi”.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    He finally won something he didn’t have to buy.

    • Tawreos

      Russian hackers don’t work for free and we don’t know who ultimately supplied the money.

  • Rebecca Gardner
    • Todd20036

      You need to stop holding back your feelings. It could lead to unwanted stress.

    • thatotherjean

      Go, Becca! No, he doesn’t have the slightest idea. That’s his standard rant–one size fits all.

      • Maybe he copy/pastes the body of the tweet, and just adds on stuff for the person he is currently smearing?

        • thatotherjean

          I’m reasonably sure that copy/paste is beyond his expertise.

  • bkmn

    Thank you politifact. Dear rest of the media, you can call a lie a lie.

  • Tawreos

    Even if Putin signs an affidavit stating that he influenced the election to get Trump the win Trump will deny it because he has to believe everyone loves him so much that they just had to have him as president.

    • clay

      He has (like most Americans) forgotten that he lost by nearly 3,000,000.

  • Kevin Andrews
    • Jared has that “first time anal sex look” and “not sure I mind it” doesn’t he? He is getting ready for prison. Steve, what do you think?

      • agcons

        I think he looks like he just smelled the dog shit he stepped in.

  • bkmn

    Trump has been getting awfully defensive lately, we must be due for more indictments, possibly for someone in his inner circle.

    • clay

      So far in that it can’t just be the coffee.

  • netxtown

    aw gees, not this asshole again…..

  • PickyPecker
    • Todd20036

      And a white man’s idea of an orange man

  • safari
    • That_Looks_Delicious

      Everything old is new again. Compared to Trump, though, I actually miss Nixon.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_raXzIRgsA

      • ColdCountry

        What a powerful voice that woman had!

      • TuuxKabin

        And I miss the cold war. Stolen from somebody here.

        • The_Wretched

          It was a less stressful time.

    • Karl Dubhe 2

      Let’s put it in the drinking water, what could go wrong?

      • safari

        We all become Steve Jobs.

    • Todd20036

      Does LSD have medicinal properties?

      • safari

        micro-dosing has been shown to decrease depression. It’s also being used as a performance enhancer in silicon valley.

        • iambu

          I’ve also heard that LSD and other hallucinogens can be used to treat opioid withdrawal. Also some promising info on psilocybin micro-dosing and cluster headaches which are notoriously hard to treat.

          • iambu

            Also, also, I super miss hallucinogens. What fun I had!

          • JCF

            I’ve heard this, too.

      • The_Wretched

        Ketamine trials for depression have had very good outcomes.

  • OT- Is everyone having as good a breakfast as these two funsters this morning? Someone cut up a banana in their bowls of Kix!
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/38c1eb78bd35cc1b96b3cdd7288974f73e0d274a1c106de9e83a5c6453aa51e1.gif

    • safari

      Lizard looks like they’re having a good breakfast.

    • DaddyRay

      Is that breakfast at the Conway house

      • This is a perfect comment and I know someone who works at her husband’s law firm – close to George – who is going to see it. Promise!

      • pj

        kelly hasent slipped on her human suit yet.

        • Tawreos

          She looks warmer and fuzzier like this.

    • AmeriCanadian

      Kix…kid tested, lizard approved!

    • jerry

      “Kix–Breakfast of Chameleons”…and iguanas apparently, too.

  • Mark Née Fuzz

    Good for him. Winning something at last.

  • blackstar
    • Joe in PA

      and not just his lawyers…a bunch of congress critters were setting that up as well.

      • Gustav2

        Rep Jim Jordan (OH-Teavangelical) has been screaming on TV for a least a week.

    • Friday’s_cat

      Be on the alert, if there are demonstrations, that republicans don’t infiltrate to incite violence.

    • clay

      During final exams and the holidays, to keep the distractions distracting.

    • yes b’y
      • JCF

        I note that my local (Sacramento CA) protest (would) meet at the State Capitol. I really hope they (would) then proceed up Capitol Blvd to the Federal bldg: need to Shut That Fucker Down!

  • Friday’s_cat

    Does Trump get a gold plated plastic trophy?

    • safari

      Filled with diet coke, even.

      • iambu

        Gold plated plastic beer (Diet Coke) helmet-crown?

  • IAMBOWLINGQUEEN
    • ColdCountry

      She got fired for that. What bullshit!

  • Rex

    Does it come with a crown and a sash?

    • DaddyRay

      Hopefully an orange jumpsuit and straight jacket

      • Tawreos

        Don’t forget the gag

    • lymis

      And enough lube to shove them where they belong?

    • JCF

      How ’bout a noose?

      [NB to the Secret Service: ONLY kidding!]

  • Frostbite

    #fakenews #sad

  • Michael R
  • Macbill
    • KnownDonorDad

      Here’s hoping his fundraising page is up soon.

      • kareemachan

        YES!

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      I’m surprised Trump hasn’t nominated her to run NASA or the Federal Reserve or something.

  • Bluto
    • Friday’s_cat

      A lie can travel half way round the world before Bill Clinton can pull his pants up.
      Yes, I stole this.

    • The_Wretched

      Trump is a real life walking Gish-Gallop. It’s a type of asymmetric warfare.

  • mikeinftl

    Poor little Donald, had no actual idea what being president actually entailed, he thought he was going to be king. Can’t understand why people despise him, keep living in the bubble Donnie.

  • JAKvirginia

    “How, from where we started, did we ever reach this Christmas?”
    — The Lion in Winter

  • BearEyes

    T’was an embarrassment of riches from which to choose.

  • 2017: Russia Didn’t Interfere in the 2016 Election
    2016: Fake news
    2015: The campaign misstatements of Donald Trump

    Now that he’s won the triple crown, does this mean he will be sent off to the glue factory into retirement?

    • ColdCountry

      Oh, please, not to stud! But I guess it’s too late for that….

  • billbear1961
    • Tawreos

      He could look like the world’s biggest drama queen if you didn’t know about all the world domination and genocide he was advocating.

      • safari

        There is only one tape that I know of him in which he was using his regular voice. He apparently didn’t like being recorded when he wasn’t screaming, and the tape’s creation was an accident.

  • billbear1961
  • Sorry guys but Dems need to drop the Russia bullshit and focus on fixing the party that is a total mess right now. Focus on things like getting constituents to actually vote by building a solid left platform that includes $15 min wage and universal health care. Making them care again and not just being “the other guys who aren’t as bad.” Plus this meddling is very nebulous – what did they do exactly? Did it have any real effect? Probably not. Not to mention the US has intervened in countless election processes that have had a MUCH bigger impact than what Russia may or may not have done. It’s just a waste of energy and time IMHO.

    • Tread

      Go back to Breitbart and 4chan, troll.

      • See? That’s the typical response I get. I voted for Bernie then HRC and I am skeptical of Russia intervention and I get lumped in with Bretibart readers because I’m skeptical and see a better future for the Dems who embrace a progressive platform.

        • Tread

          It’s the response you deserve.

          • Boreal

            Actually the response he deserves is blocking. Thankfully I can’t read any of his bullshit, trump fellating posts.

        • whollyfool

          You’re not wrong about cleaning up the party.

          I think there is evidence that Russia used a propaganda campaign under false pretenses (Facebook) to sway public opinion in the US election.

          It matters because I think there is fair chance they are blackmailing people in the Trump administration, very likely Trump himself.

          I also think it’s part of Putin’s master plan. Have you read Red Notice?

          • I think this sounds like paranoia and the US has a long history of making Russia its scapegoat when it has no one else to blame. I saw the Facebook ads and they were a bit ridiculous – and its hard to believe they had any impact at all. The reason she lost is because she didn’t go to the right states to campaign – it’s not rocket science. Also making Putin out to be this master villain just gives him more power than the asshole needs.

          • whollyfool

            Seriously, read the book and let me know what you think. The Magnitsky acts are the way to stop Putin who is making a very big power play and has for years.

        • -M-

          Russia interfered with the election. Being ‘skeptical’ of that at this point is just denial.

          Separately and more importantly, Trump is interfering with US government and policy to the obvious benefit of Putin and other despots.

          Bernie is not the arbiter of what or who is progressive enough. People get angry when he’s brought up because he seems more and more like a ‘leftist’ version of Trump-like narcissism and cult of personality rather than someone who advocates and works toward goals or strategies.

          • I never said Bernie is the arbiter of who is progressive enough. If Bernie is a cult – it’s bigger than HRC’s was as, again, he’s the most popular politician which may be because he actually stands for something other than “not being a Republican.”

        • Priya Lynn

          When I read your first post I immediately thought “concern troll”.

          • Not sure what a concern troll is.

    • kareemachan

      You know, I despise people who are all “don’t do this, do that.” Mature, smart people can do BOTH.

      Of course, considering you are tacitly saying Russia didn’t do anything makes you, in my mind, either a really stupid trollette or a moran of a trollette. You choose.

      • Tread

        Moran troll included a link to his tumblr, filled with dumbass 4chan shit.

        • iambu

          lol

      • What did they do?

      • TuuxKabin

        all that and more.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      Says you. Meanwhile 17 different intelligence agencies (including our own and those of our allies) confirm that there was interference. But Bernie or Bust for 2020, right? Maybe a Sanders/Stein ticket or Sanders/Sarandon ticket?

    • BeaverTales

      Bernie Sanders said much the same thing you did about priorities, and he is hated here. Apparently believing those things makes you “not a real Democrat”.

      The Russia thing is good to expose how deeply corrupted and flawed our election systems are. Better to avoid talking about it than talk about corruption in the DNC itself and the South, and stay focused on Russia instead of the voting reform needed here in the USA.

      Scapegoats are good.

      • Our election systems are corrupt and need reform – I just don’t think Russia is the way to go to expose this problem. It’s also hard for me to understand why there is still so much hate for Bernie in the gay community these days. He’s the most popular politician among Democrats right now and he’s out there calling for Trump to resign over sexual misconduct allegations and tried to get an amendment tied to the tax bill that would prevent the Feds from gutting medicare and medicaid but 3 dems voted against it.

        • BeaverTales

          1. Russia shouldn’t be the basket all our eggs go into, but I think exploring the depth of the rabbit hole is important.

          2. Scapegoats are important….just like in the old testament/Talmud, it deflects anger away from the people an/or person at fault. So that is why Bernie Derangement syndrome will keep our party endlessy divided.

          3. The Republicans are benefiting from their scandals because their electorate doesn’t care, but Democrats are embracing new scandals every day, and our electorate cares….except for the one scandal caused by the DNC itself

        • Refugay

          He’s never been the most popular politician among Democrats. Just like Trump didn’t win the popular vote. Repeating falsehoods does not make them true.

        • netxtown

          Bernie burned some bridges after the DNC – and he still hangs the “Independent” shingle yet wants to play with the Dems. In other words – he ain’t committed.

          • OK . I think the more Democrats make this an exclusive club the more they’ll lose. 75% of the country are not Democrats – they need votes outside their party. They’re having some issues – maybe they could learn from Bernie, given how popular he is and given how he always caucuses with them.

    • worstcultever

      The “Russia bullshit” isn’t a Dem thing. Mueller isn’t a Dem. Nor is Rosenstein who appointed him.

      Btw have you noticed the house is on fire? That Social Security is on the chopping block? That old people dying on the street in droves is about to be a systematically created reality? Because Hill’s $12 minimum wage was so unacceptably un-leftist?

      Oh, fuck it. Gah. Btw, have you noticed that the house is on fire?

    • Zachary Adams

      There is clear evidence Russia used social media (Facebook, Twitter) to message against Hillary and for Trump. Given that an alarming number of people only get their news through social media, it is certain this swayed public opinion even though I cannot quantify the effect. It is also certain that Russian bots were extremely active on blogs and comment sections of certain specific news sites (Fox, OANN, Brietbart), which helped to solidify people’s opinions. Again, I can’t quantify the effect, but it was almost certain to have a major influence. And the investigation is showing that the upper leadership of our country was influenced by, and is perhaps indebted to, the Russians. Their interference is NOT bullshit. It is a hostile nation interfering in our democracy. Any chaos they can create is to their benefit and our detriment.

      Yes, we need to fix our party. Yes, we need to work on messaging. All that is important, but it pales in priority to uprooting the slime that is in charge of our country!

      • billbear1961

        Hear, hear!

        As a supposedly organized political party, Democrats should be able to do more than one thing at a time; and protecting Mueller and his investigation and freeing this country from a fascist conspiracy–cooked up by gangster oligarchs in Russia and the States–is of PARAMOUNT importance!

        On it depends the very survival of our democratic republic!

      • clay

        And the Russians attempted (successful?) hacking of state voter lists. Is that the cause of 1000s of votes from urban SE Michigan getting tossed?

    • billbear1961

      Treason MATTERS–you don’t leave a poisonous and relentless pathological LIAR and demented fascist hatemonger and TRAITOR, who, with the help of his criminal party, is DESTROYING this democracy, in office!

      • He’s awful, I agree. But just not convinced Russia is the way to get him.

        • billbear1961

          The investigation is gaining steam, and the Trump regime’s increasing PANIC–their desperation to interfere with it, ball it up or stop it–is the proof we have that the walls are closing in on them, heimaey.

          It is the single best way to bring them crashing down and their goddamned sellout party WITH them!

          I believe Americans should be helping by launching massive and relentless protests to DEMAND the regime’s OUSTER, to make it clear we will NOT bow down to GANGSTER government.

        • billbear1961

          What the protests should be demanding: Trump’s tax returns and other financial records, secure elections, moderates only appointed to the courts (no fanatics), the defeat of this “tax cut” bill, the protection of the ACA and of laws and regulations which protect the environment.

          These are the MINIMUM demands.

          • I agree with all of this – plus his sexual misconduct. All of this is a lot more solid than nebulous FB Russian ads.

          • billbear1961

            Heimaey, his financial records will likely reveal Russian connections (he has depended on them, directly or through Deutsche Bank, to keep his business empire afloat since his last major bankruptcy in 2004, when all other western banks stopped lending to him), very probably money-laundering for the Russian oligarchs.

            Of course, you are RIGHT about the sexual misconduct charges. It’s difficult to remember ALL his outrages at the same time (there’s also his refusal to divest from his businesses, his violations of the Emoluments Clause). The first three things I list I’ve been caring on about for MONTHS.

          • I’m all for a Russian investigation – I just don’t think there was this mastermind collusion with Putin. That sounds more like a spy novel than reality. Were there shady business deals? Probably. Will this bring him down – almost certainly not.

    • The_Wretched

      You’re running the same argument as the rightwing bots.

      • I’m not but you sound an awful lot like anyone who disagrees with the Russia theory is a right-winger.

  • Hue-Man

    O/T Just when you thought your day couldn’t get any worse.
    Announcing Launch of ‘Christian Civil Rights Watch’
    Co-founders – Matt Barber and Gordon Klingenschmitt. Check out link with a bucket within arm’s-reach.
    http://canadafreepress.com/article/announcing-launch-of-christian-civil-rights-watch

    • Bj Lincoln

      “Canada Free Press Because without America, there is no free world.” I’m confused. The article confuses me too. I can’t speak or read ‘christian twist speak’.

      • Hue-Man

        Now you understand why I recommended a bucket!

  • billbear1961

    Listen to Bloomberg praise Bannon as a “master strategist” instead of pointing out that the man is a poisonous, lying fascist propagandist. Nowhere do they criticize him for what he did–this article amounts to PRAISE. He’s not a lying propagandist; no, he created a “new narrative.” He’s a LIAR, Bloomberg, and you aid and abet him with an article like this. THIS is how the media are helping the fascists to DESTROY this republic!

    How Bannon Rescued Roy Moore

    Bloomberg: “Bannon worked to create a counter-narrative that ultimately would change many Republicans’ perception of the Roy Moore scandal. A former filmmaker, he’s long been captivated by the propaganda films of Leni Riefenstahl, the Nazi filmmaker, and the Soviet director Sergei Eisenstein for their power to shape public sentiment.”

    “Earlier this year, Bannon told the New Yorker’s Jane Mayer his 2012 anti-Obama film The Hope and the Change, had consciously mimicked Riefenstahl’s infamous, Triumph of the Will. Her film, he added, ‘seared into me’ that unhappy voters could be influenced if they felt they were being conned.”

    https://politicalwire.com/2017/12/12/bannon-rescued-roy-moore/

    Infamous film, propaganda, Nazi filmmaker–they mention all these things but behave as though they ADMIRE him for imitating this democracy-destroying behaviour! They don’t condemn him for it, or express fear for the Republic’s future because of the work–the LIES–the propaganda–of this neo-NAZI!

    “New narrative,” like “alternative facts,” is another lazy and evil euphemism for the deliberate distortions and LIES of fascist propaganda!

  • Jay Silversmith

    Don the con screaming “fake news” and “deep state” and “rigged” and “I’m not a puppet” are all from the Cambridge Analytica/Robert Mercer playbook, using artificial intelligence to data mine and target weak-minded voters. It’s the same playbook they used for Brexit and to interfere in other countries’ elections.

  • safari
    • clay

      I’d think he could do that much easier with sworn testimony.

      • whollyfool

        I like how you think

      • JCF

        I think he already has?

    • Robincho

      Soon to be found in the remainder bin at your local carwash…

  • lymis

    Well, I won’t argue that. And if they have to point to a single individual and a whopper they told, then it certainly works.

    But honestly, I think the bigger lie is “Donald Trump is qualified to be President.”

    • clay

      “Donald Trump is qualified to be President.” is sooo 2016.

    • I don’t think anyone ever has said that, including cheatin’ shit gibbon. He says he hires the best people, accomplished more in ___, has the biglyist words, the best voters, etc. But hasn’t ever said he’s qualified.

      • Tawreos

        We may have found a lie that is too big for even him to tell.

  • ChrisMorley

    Robert Mueller is closing in on Trump. Congress must protect his investigation

    – The closer Mueller gets to Trump, the likelier it is that Trump will act to try to end his investigation. That’s why he must be protected now

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/12/robert-mueller-trump-congress-protect-investigation

  • worstcultever

    Btw – has everybody seen the movie GET OUT? (Yes the title is all caps, as in shouting and immediacy.)

    Best cinematic experience in eons. Run do not walk. Ingenious and so perfectly done – conceived, written, acted. Will stay with you long after viewing, provoking thought on many levels even beyond what’s presented. Get the DVD – it has the director’s commentary which adds lots of interesting points.

    All that said – all I have to say about Dump anymore is – GET HIM OUT.

    • Refugay

      I loved it.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      It was good. I liked it a lot. I didn’t love it, but I haven’t really loved any movie in the last 10 years.

    • iambu

      Jordan Peele is brilliant! I would love to hear his commentary! The movie is a modern classic.

    • Priya Lynn

      I’ve got it on the DVR, waiting to see it with my husband (he doesn’t know he’s going to watch it).

  • calvin

    Go back to Breitbart and 4chan, troll.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    I notice Putin is trying to go “I couldn’t have possiblydone something so devastating. Really, little old mwah?”

  • Gretchen

    More or less on topic:

    This was posted by the station without comment on the local NBC news affiliate in my area (East Tennessee).

    http://www.wbir.com/gallery/news/nation-now/fake-white-house-apologies-for-real-trump-lies/465-e7567cef-78f4-4c39-b793-5872b6bfbacd

  • JCF
  • Gianni

    I so wish we would discover that his presidency is a ruse, a hoax, fake news.