REPORT: Trump Didn’t Understand Jerusalem Issue, Just Wanted To “Make A Deal” To Please Supporters

The Washington Post reports:

An important outside voice advising Trump to make the leap was Adelson’s, according to several people familiar with the two men’s conversations. At a White House dinner earlier this year, Adelson made the issue a main topic, one person said. In the months that followed, Adelson periodically asked others close to Trump what was causing the delay and expressed frustration, these people said.

At the same time, other Trump advisers were making their case against the move. Most prominent among them were Tillerson and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis. Tillerson, mindful of the death of four Americans in militant attacks in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012, “pushed back vocally,” one White House official said. Already at odds with Trump over other aspects of the president’s approach to the Middle East, Tillerson argued that the move could unleash a dangerous chain reaction across the region.

Several advisers said he did not seem to have a full understanding of the issue and instead appeared to be focused on “seeming pro-Israel,” in the words of one, and “making a deal,” in the words of another. Once Trump indicated 10 days ago that he would not sign a second waiver, national security adviser H.R. McMaster began putting together options that officials assessed would result in the least damage.

  • Christopher
    • lymis

      I don’t think that’s fair, just because Trump is an idiot.

      Clearly, he’s running an Narcisocracy on a for-cash basis.

    • Canucky Yank

      Idiocracy was utopian compared to the mess we’re in. At least in that movie, President Camacho was the smartest person around.

    • UrsusArctos 🐻

      Who knew it was a documentary? I re-watched it the other evening, needing hope for the future. *grin*

      • Christopher

        I rewatched it a couple of months ago so I would know what to expect in the future.

        I don’t think reality will be as pleasant.

  • tbj5

    He wanted to make chaos

    • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

      Yup. And if there are terrorist incidents, he feels it will strengthen his Presidency, distract from Russia and justify his Muslim ban.

      I wouldn’t put it past him to ask his Glowing Orb buddies to blow up a US bldg (please god a vacant warehouse) or shoot down a few drones to help justify his stupid decision.

      • olandp

        I don’t think he has the intelligence to plan that far ahead. Now, it they blow up a Trump building…

    • Puck

      Exactly!

    • Hunter M

      That’s why I think Bannon is behind this.

  • So you could say he’s….
    INCOMPETENT.
    But hey, her emails….

    • Frostbite

      i know. why do people seem to be forgetting about her emails? why isn’t the media looking into her emails? why isn’t there a government investigation going on right now about her emails? it’s not like we have more important matters going on.

      • Tawreos

        I thought they had promised to reopen that investigation already.

        • Todd20036

          LOCK HER UP!!! Wasn’t that a meme in the Trump rallies?

    • cleos_mom

      I Googled “but her emails” and got a long string of links re those memes being so infuriating and repetitive.

      So I went looking for more. This one is especially relevant during cookie-baking season.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4151fb464be023e0987d74b6d755c4f15b4f7345dc829357f1abb0498ca430cc.jpg

      • Duh-David

        Buttery males!

  • Ninja0980

    WWIII is going to start one way or another and all because of this idiot’s need for people to love him.

  • DaddyRay

    Puppet Donald

  • Tom Mears

    Oh joy! We are at the point now where aides and advisors are trying to make sure when Donny pulls out his sigin’ sharpie it will “result in the least damage”.

    • Tawreos

      Well they have caused most of the damage they wanted to cause so now they are worried about unintended damage, and to make sure he doesn’t make to many waves before the next election.

  • Tawreos

    When the next embassy attack happens because of this I wonder how they weird and twisted the line connecting it to Hillary will have to be.

    • Puck

      They just have to say “Her E-mails” that simple. That’s what they do now and the idiots of trump nod their heads in agreement.

    • Michael White

      Or the next attack on an American city. The santorum that follows the orange turd will cause war in our streets.

      • Harley

        LOL. Santorum. Love it.

    • lymis

      It’s easy. The Benghazi attack was Hillary’s fault because she’s evil and all-powerful and could simply have prevented it by deciding not to allow it.

      The next embassy attack will be because Trump is wonderful and benevolent and the bad guys are evil and can’t stand to see him succeed, and because they hate America, freedom, and, presumably, puppies.

      • Chicago joe

        You nailed the formula……

    • FancyThat

      Did He put all of his Trump-branded properties at risk with such an ill-advised, gasoline-onto-fire move.

      Regardless of one’s nationality, wouldn’t people now have second thoughts about about staying at a Trump property, regardless of location?

      Will Americans now foot the bill for added security for Trump property guests?

      • Tawreos

        I am sure he will just send army units to protect all of them and issue a tax break for anyone that stays in one to make them feel better.

      • RoFaWh

        It’s bad to think it, but I’d love to see the first attack by terrorists on Trump properties be a successful one against the NYC tower.

        Take that, gilded asshole!

    • John Kusters

      He might blame Hillary, but he’ll definitely blame all of Islam, and I could easily see him using the attack to justify more invasions in the name of “The War On Terror!!!!1!”

  • Boreal
    • Todd20036

      God I hate that smirk. People have gotten shot for less.

      • Stephen Elliot Phillips

        My late best girlfriend, rest her soul, her ex husband acted and smirked just like cheeto……
        Arg

    • Anastasia Beaverhousen

      I can’t stand all the winning… for the democrats.

    • Gerry Fisher

      Only the BEST convicted felons.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    Occasionally his advisers suggest something sane and he still does whatever.

  • SoCalGal20

    Sheldon Adelson. Because, yes, you should be doing foreign policy abd diplomacy based on what some Las Vegas-based casino owner wants. That makes sense. /s

    (I’ll be happy when all these 80+ year old Republican billionaires can no longer outrun father time).

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      What makes me furious is that people like Sheldon Adelson never suffer any harm from this.

      • SoCalGal20

        Of course not! None of these billionaires give a shit about what the rest of us have to deal with because of their sociopathic narcissism.

        • Stephen Elliot Phillips

          Theyre Job Creators!!

    • GayOldLady

      And don’t forget Trump’s special envoy to the Middle East, Jared. Who knows less about the historical issues of the region than Trump. His only qualification, he’s Jewish.

      • Palmer

        No, he has another qualification. He’s married to 45’s favorite piece of incestuous tail.

        I wonder who is really the father of her children?

      • William

        I bet Jared picked up an Israeli passport during his recent travels.

    • ColdCountry

      If Junior is any example, the next generation won’t be any better.

      • William

        Junior isn’t smart enough to function outside Daddy’s world. Eric must a have a servant who reminds him to breathe.

    • jerry

      No one should ever stay at the Palazzo/Venetian when in Vegas, nor patronize the Sands Casino in Bethlehem, PA…all owned by Adelson.

    • HaHaHa

      New ones will take their place, money replaces brain cells as it piles up.

    • JCF

      Then we’ll be dealing w/ their “death tax”-free *snort* heirs, Le Sigh…

    • prixator

      I’ll bet the fact that Obama would never do this factored into his decision. He is just obsessed with Obama (and Clinton, too).

  • Mike Solo

    At least this is making Brexit negotiations seem somewhat sane and normal….

    • Gustav2

      How is that even possible? lol

    • Dazzer

      Nope.

      The UK government is still totally fucking nuts.

    • Steve Smith

      There aren’t actually any negotiations at the moment, after Monday’s unbelievable display of incompetence. Turns out that the Brexit Impact Assessments haven’t actually been assessed yet, either. The Trump school of government seems to be widespread nowadays.

      • I saw that and couldn’t believe he f’kn giggled while admitting they didn’t check to see what the ramifications would be for literally anyone or anything in their country. 😳

  • Christopher

    “Donald Trump didn’t understand ____________”

    Fill in the blank with anything and you’d be correct.

    • Michael R

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    • lymis

      You don’t need to even include the blank. Just put the period at the end.

      Donald Trump doesn’t understand.

    • Kevin Perez

      ..how Fixodent works

    • Nick in Pasadena

      I’m always shocked he fully understands the rules of golf. Or rather, how to cheat at golf.

      • ChrisInKansas

        Do we know for sure that he does (understand the rules, not cheat. I’m confident he does that)?

        • JCF

          He’s KNOWN to cheat at golf.

  • Oscarlating Wildely

    “But the base loves me, loves me!”

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wUqMmxf-yqM/hqdefault.jpg

  • Todd20036

    Duh! This was a give away to the evangelical base. Nothing else.

    Israel isn’t getting anything from this.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I’m so bitter that they are OK with sacrificing millions of lives just to goad Jesus into coming back and that politicians pander to this nonsense.

      • cleos_mom

        They have something in common with the last people in the Second Temple to die at the hands of the Romans in 70 CE. It was supposedly a group of people who were convinced that their god was going to save them at the last minute second.

    • Bluto

      Sure they will. This will inspire terrorist attacks against them as well. They’ll retaliate & then the Palestinians can revel in death & destruction too. Making the middle east great again.

    • David L. Caster

      Nettle Yahoo is just fine with it. Both he and trump are alone in the world in being very satisfied with this boneheaded move.

  • Glenn E Ross

    Of course Trump listened to Adelson. Adelson successfully makes a profit owning casinos, something Trump failed to do.

    • OdieDenCO

      donny always makes a profit. it’s the business and workers that get screwed

      • clay

        (and the other investors, you know, the ones without insider knowledge that he’s fucking it all up)

    • AJ Drew

      [made] a profit owning casinos, something ONLY Trump failed to do.

  • Bluto

    “Fucking moron.” But hey, sheldon got what he & his money wanted, to hell with the rest of the world.

  • GayOldLady

    The Bastard is Going To Kill Us All.

    #TBIGTKUA

  • Karl Dubhe 2

    Sheldon Anderson? Isn’t he the nutter that advocated dropping nukes in the Iranian desert a few years ago?

    This isn’t going to work out well, for any of us.

  • Rex

    There will be bloodshed, and Trump will blame Obama and Clinton.

    • William

      Jerusaghazi!!

  • RepublicansRNotConservative

    Everything he does is always about Trump. He’s incapable of any other motivation. NPD is disabling, never forget that.

  • kladinvt

    How much did Adelson pay Comrade Cheetos for this?

    • SoCalGal20

      $25M (that’s what he donated to the Trump campaign in 2016)

      • William

        That’s all? Trump is a cheap whore.

        • Reality.Bites

          Hey, it may not seem like much to you, but to Trump that represents unimaginable profits.

          • William

            Not to worry, Trump will earn much more in kickbacks from no bid contracts,

    • BobSF_94117

      A more pertinent question is how much will Adelson pay as a result of this reckless move? My guess, not much. His businesses won’t be burned. His houses won’t be bombed. His kids won’t die in the streets.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
    • Treant

      $$$. Actually, quite a bit of $$$. And also, it’s been a while since he’s done anything at all and you gotta keep the rubes happy. This appeals to the part of the deplorables that are anxiously awaiting the Rapture (since they can’t imagine that the world would go on without them and they’re getting kind of old). And nobody else.

  • fkevin

    Guess who also recently recognized Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel? Russia this past April: http://www.mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/2717182

    “We reaffirm our commitment to the UN-approved principles for a Palestinian-Israeli settlement, which include the status of East Jerusalem as the capital of the future Palestinian state. At the same time, we must state that in this context we view West Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.”

    The only other country to do so.

    • zhera

      Wow, what a coincidence!!

    • Acronym Jim

      The Russians have plenty of experience dividing a capital city in half.

      • Dazzer

        Yep. I used to go to pre-unified Berlin a lot.

        • William

          The folks working at Checkpoint Charlie were so warm and friendly.

      • fkevin

        There’s always a catch:

        “At this point it is unclear whether the Israeli government would welcome the recognition of West Jerusalem as its capital, since Israel claims the entire city as its eternal united capital.

        Recognizing only the Western part of it would appear to deny Israel’s claims to the eastern part, including the Old City, which it captured in 1967 and subsequently annexed. The Russian statement specifically said that Moscow views “East Jerusalem as the capital of the future Palestinian state.”

        https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-historic-first-russia-recognizes-west-jerusalem-as-israels-capital/

  • GeneInSJ

    Trump was played by Dominionists.

  • clay

    “seeming pro-Israel,” is not an appropriate stance for the mediator.

    The US will now be removed from the bargaining table. There will now be no deal brokered by the US. I doubt Norway has enough clout to take over, so that leaves . . . no deal.

  • Last night I heard even Trump supporters in dismay at this announcement. WTF? If we survive to 2021 it will be a miracle.

    • Taylor Bixler

      Not all of them are dismayed. Little Benji Shapiro is thrilled.
      https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/938537986320453632

      • Of course he is. Obviously Benji was not at least night’s rehearsal and I don’t follow him on twitter (why would I?) He’s a loon, but we all already knew that. No doubt the support Israel no matter what crowd is elated. The rest, even people who support Israel most of the time, are nervous about how many Americans are going to be killed over this.

  • -M-

    Hey moron, the point of a ‘deal’ is to get a good one, not fucking everything up for no reason at all.

    • Yeaaaah, you pretty much described his business style for his entire life. Do whatever you want, just make sure you’re set up to profit off the resultant mess. 😒

      • -M-

        But he’s stupid about it, even by the narrow standard of only caring how it benefits himself. Cheating everyone involved for short-term gain, means no one trusts or likes him.

        • Oh yeah. To quote our SOS, he’s a fucking moron. About literally everything. However, he has had enough soulless vultures propping him up simple to keep the money flowing to have made it this long.

          The problem is those vultures have continually gotten worse because of what you said, that no one trusts or likes him. The pool of people willing to work, and eventually get thrown under the bus, for and by him has dwindled every year until we get Bannon, Manafort, Conway, etc…… 😒

          The people get more deplorable and incompetent, so the duration of time the con stays afloat gets shorter and shorter. Every business of his has ended with court proceedings of some nature. I see no difference now.

  • Acronym Jim

    I have no doubt that Trump doesn’t understand the issue; however, I also have no doubt that Trump did not write that speech.

  • Octoberfurst

    Oh sure his idiotic move could set the stage for another huge war in the Middle east and maybe the world but hey, he made the loony evangelicals happy so it’s all good.

  • Palmer

    Fucking moron.

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    Why does his base literally cheer this? Why do Red State rabble give a shit about which city the US recognizes as the capitol of Israel?

    • William

      The Fundies want Armageddon. The rest of the Trumpeteers would cheer as he haltingly red ‘Fun with Dick and Jane’.

    • Stev84

      This has been a hobby horse of radical evangelicals for a long time. They need control of the Temple Mount so that Jesus returns and ends the world. They don’t give a shit about people and just want to the world to end. That’s also why they don’t care how this affects the region.

  • Taylor Bixler

    All about the $$. As it always is.
    “Adelson, the Las Vegas casino mogul, has privately complained about Trump’s failure to fulfill his campaign promise to move the U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem… Adelson is also rankled that some people he recommended for administration posts haven’t yet been tapped…
    Adelson has yet to give money to any of the pro-Trump outside groups set up to boost the president’s agenda.”
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/24/trump-congress-midterms-2018-237505

  • netxtown

    I wonder how many Americans will end up dead over this? There’s no way any of the secret service guys/gals should have to take a foreign bullet or bomb for his dumbass. He ain’t fucking with honey bees. Them be killer bees.

  • sfjohn

    fucking moron…

  • Carrie Scott

    The unintended consequence of citizens United?

    • -M-

      No, this is pretty much what they intended.

  • cleos_mom

    Everything is a “deal” to this jerk.

  • Yikes! cheeto dust doesn’t understand that his actions have life and death consequences. Life is not a “deal”!😡

  • SFBruce

    This is news? Little Donnie has consistently exhibited is a staggeringly shallow understanding of everything. The only thing he cares about is protecting his base: that narrow 35% of voters who remain willing to buy the nonsense he sells. He’ll say or do anything he thinks will achieve that goal.

  • Kevin Andrews

    The Shitgibbon’s ignorance is not only a national disgrace it is a clear and present danger to the United States and demonstrates a complete incompetence.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8f6c2ac98fc1f60da04cdd60143df7d63046de6ef34b87bfb0fcd150bb2874d0.png

  • Rocco

    Nothing about this pathetic old fool surprises or shocks me anymore.

  • MarkBuster

    This is the problem with not having a thoughtful person in that position. I’m pro-Israel. This benefits no one except the makers of bullets.

  • CJAS

    This all would be funny if he weren’t destabilizing the world playing at being president.

  • Gregory In Seattle

    Only a Republican would say that “Too ignorant to know any better” was a valid excuse.

  • Pip

    So, yet again, a personal favor to a friend has put us all in jeopardy. Got it.

  • M Jackson

    Ahead : More dead Americans and their families for trump to insult.

  • Edmund Allin

    I pity the presidents who’ll have to clean up after him.

    • R W C

      I am thankful Democrat presidents have demonstrated the ability to do the hard work of cleaning up after Republican malfeasance.

  • Friday

    Stupid foreign policy that gains nothing. It’s just red meat for the apocalyptic Christians who think it’ll bring about their God ending the world. (and of course killing or converting all the Jews they pretend to give a crap about.)

  • Nowhereman

    So now he’s basing life and death decisions for the real world on a casino owner’s religious fantasies about the paranormal. Why not just base our national world view on Game of Thrones? But no fear–winter is coming for all of these traitors. Even Netanyahu is under investigation for fraud along with his wife.

  • Lindoro Almaviva

    and that is what happens when we elect a man that says he doesn’t care but deep down all he does is CARE about what people think of him and desires to be liked.

  • coram nobis

    So, the F*cking Moron of the United States (FMUS) valued Adelson’s input over the secretaries of state and defense. To be expected given his progress so far.

  • John Kusters

    He says he wanted to make a deal. Okay, then what did we get for the declaration? This is the one thing, the ONE THING, that Israel has wanted from the US for something like 70 years, so it must be incredibly valuable to them. What did we get in exchange for that one thing they’ve wanted for 70 years?

  • FelineMama

    Is there any more proof needed to prove this Idiot’s incompetence? Seriously. He needs to be removed from office, NOW!! If congress wants to keep “IT” around, keep him locked up, take away his smartphone & gag his ass!! Or prepare for war.

  • Ann Kah

    Never was an administration more succinctly or more accurately described than in that headline:
    “Trump didn’t understand”.

  • JCF
  • SilasMarner

    Once again he’s proven that he has no grasp of international issues and their implications. In other words…he’s a moron.