BREAKING: Australia Legalizes Same-Sex Marriage!

The Guardian reports:

Australia’s parliament has legislated for marriage equality, passing a bill almost unanimously to allow two people, regardless of sex, to marry. On Thursday the House of Representatives passed a cross-party bill after an unprecedented national postal survey gave unstoppable momentum to legislate the historic social reform. Australia, which changed the law in 2004 to say that marriage is only between a man and a woman, now joins 24 countries which recognise same-sex marriage.

The lower house passed marriage equality with almost all members of the governing Liberal-National Coalition joining Labor, the Greens, and crossbench MPs in a free vote to pass the bill which cleared the Senate last week without amendment. The only no votes were Coalition MPs Russell Broadbent, Keith Pitt, David Littleproud and independent MP Bob Katter. Tony Smith declared the vote carried, since fewer than five MPs opposed it.

SINGING!

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    I’m glad there’s civilization elsewhere even if we’re heading into the Stone Age in the States.

    • johncAtl

      There is one along our northern border. And there’s one along our southern border too.

    • billbear1961

      They cannot do it if you vigorously and relentlessly deny them your consent!

      Don’t let all the goddamned useless, defeatist ASSHOLES in this country–especially among the SPINELESS politicians and lazy or COMPLICIT “pundits”–make you believe you are helpless!!

      • AJD

        So how? We can’t control how the Supreme Court rules. And even if they rule in our favor, the Republicans have effective control over judicial appointments for the time being.

    • Ninja0980

      Bittersweet isn’t it?

    • Mihangel apYrs

      Sorry, a misplace!

  • Snownova

    First Austria now Australia, Christmas came early for the AU countries this year!

    • johncAtl

      Oh damn. ‘AU’ is the symbol for gold. I hate gold. It became a tainted metal on 11/8/16.

      • AJayne

        it’s being redeemed tonight – soon perhaps we will be as well…

  • Yay!

  • Shane Gowland

    Seeing the right-hand side of the chamber completely empty makes me very happy.

  • DaddyRay

    While the rest of the world moves forward, ours is quickly moving backward

    • billbear1961

      NOT if you vigorously–and RELENTLESSLY–DENY them your CONSENT!!

      • DaddyRay

        Reclaiming my time

  • glass
  • billbear1961
    • TampaZeke

      I became obsessed with Bach at age four. To my parents bemusement I asked for a Bach LP and a figurine, both of which I received, for Christmas. I’ve been in love with his work ever since! Thanks for sharing.

      • Mihangel apYrs

        Nice to sing to as well

        • Regan DuCasse

          Brandenburg Concertos are all that!

  • DaddyRay

    Let them eat cake!

    • johncAtl

      From a gay artisan baker.

  • MBI

    I only saw 2 who were on the ‘no’ side. Bob Katter and another guy. Who was the other guy? Tony Abbott?

  • JoeMyGod
    • DaddyRay

      Thanks for the late night thread marking this moment in LGBT history

    • David L. Caster

      Totally worth it I think.

    • billbear1961

      It’s like you were there, and so were we!

    • Ninja0980

      Thank you for the updates Joe!

    • ChrisMorley

      It’s taken an embarrassingly long time to get marriage equality, but finally it’s done
      – Future governments may apologise for how the LGBTI community was
      treated during the campaign. But at least I can now say: ‘Cool, we’re
      married here’
      https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/2017/dec/07/its-taken-an-embarrassingly-long-time-to-get-marriage-equality-but-finally-its-done

      Ivan Hinton-Teoh is founder of just.equal and former deputy director of Australian Marriage Equality
      Ivan and Chris Hinton-Yeoh married in Australia in 2004, but it was annulled a week later by the high court.

  • Tom G

    So glad I waited and watched the vote! I’m so happy for our brothers and sisters who can now marry. What kind of a shit stain must you be to sit opposite those voting yes? About two of them.

  • JAKvirginia

    Oh, crap. Another good reason to emigrate.

    G’day, Australia.

  • billbear1961
  • David L. Caster

    The law they are discussing now is actually important.

    • DaddyRay

      A law our own Congress should be debating but we know they won’t

      • David L. Caster

        Indeed. Our related laws are very porous.

  • JoeMyGod

    Refresh for new items. That video!

    • DaddyRay

      Great video – one for the history books

  • Blake J Butler
  • Blake J Butler
  • JoeMyGod
  • Blake J Butler
  • TJ Pierce

    Well said, Joe.

  • MB
  • Blake J Butler
    • DaddyRay

      I’m not crying, your crying

      • Todd20036

        I’m below frame sucking his dick. TYVM!

  • JoeMyGod

    After the last anti-gay amendment was rejected.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKmV3ZRVnMQ

  • DaddyRay

    When their side wins they celebrate Hate and Discrimination
    When our side wins we celebrate Love and Equality

    I like being on our side

    • DonnaLee

      That is the best victory. Their side has nothing but negativity.
      They try to spin it as support and being positive, and it doesn’t work.

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    • Todd20036

      In America, we just might lose equality.

  • JoeMyGod
  • MB
  • Blake J Butler
  • JoeMyGod
  • FAEN

    Congratulations to our Aussie brothers and sisters. Welcome to the club.

    Now someone send me a hot beardy Aussie already 🏳️‍🌈 🇦🇺!

  • billbear1961
  • glass

    I read that Friday they sign it into law and marriages could take place in about 30 days.

  • johncAtl

    #FakeQueers

    All those videos and pics show people outside celebrating in daylight. It’s 2:23am. Not even the supermoon made it that bright.

    Hold on, someone is telling me about this thing called time zones. They’re saying it’s mid afternoon in Australia. Well, as Gomer Pyle would say … “surprise, surprise, surprise,” and “SHAZAM.” “Shazam to times zones and shazam to marriage equality in Australia.”

  • The sun doesn’t set for another hour, so this is still timely. Music of calm rejoicing by the greatest of all gay composers!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is9vRFUgk_k

    • johncAtl

      Where are you that the sun is about to set?

      • In Sydney.

        • johncAtl

          Oh wow. I didn’t realize that Sydney was 16 hours ahead of Atlanta (even though I’ve been there – great city!). We’re two weeks away from the winter equinox when days in the northern hemisphere start getting longer. And for you they start getting shorter. I definitely suffer from seasonal affection disorder so I look forward to more hours of sunlight per day.

          • I just looked it up. Sunset today will be at 7:57. The Solstice is December 21.

          • Hue-Man

            Affection never goes out of season. Affective.

    • billbear1961

      CONGRATULATIONS, ROGER!!!!

      • It has certainly been a very long wait. Now all that remains is the formality of the Royal Assent — and I have no doubt that Sir Ninian already has his pen in hand.

        • NowAnAgnostic

          Will marriages begin immediately after the Royal Assent?

          • As the Royal Assent will not — cannot — be refused, I don’t suppose there’s any reason why people can’t marry tomorrow morning. Or even tonight, if they have a mind to.

          • NowAnAgnostic

            Good. The license/certificates and marriage ceremony officiants should be all set to go. They have had enough time to prepare. 🙂

        • billbear1961

          I was just saying to CJ tonight that YOU predicted, back in 2015 when M.E. became the law of the land in the States, that it would take another 2 years in Australia.

          • It did, didn’t it? And It has been a bumpy ride, especially over the last few months.

            I must say, though, that I’m surprised at vote being almost unanimous — I rather thought that more of the bigots would have put their money where their mouth is. I’ll be surprised if we have heard the last of them, though — even if most of the noise will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

  • MB
  • DaddyRay

    OK – I must get to bed. What a beautiful way to end the day

    Congratulations Australia!!!

  • Rocco

    It’s about time…although we seem to be headed the other direction…

  • Lazycrockett
  • Blake J Butler
  • William

    Once you Aussies put your minds to something, you make it happen.
    Congratulations!

  • Blake J Butler

    I’ve gotten a little GIF happy the past few minutes but i think this’ll be it for awhile till later today.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/123smJZaTvxHhK/giphy.gif

  • William

    Hey Northern Ireland, we’re all looking at you.

    • billbear1961

      Yes, and among the advanced western democracies, there’s still Switzerland and, of course, Italy, without M.E.

      • William

        Italy will happen over the Pope’s dead body.

        • greenmanTN

          I’m OK with that…

        • billbear1961

          Yes, the Church sits on their chests like a DEMON.

        • Reality.Bites

          double win then

        • TampaZeke

          Two glorious birds with one stone?

      • scream4ever

        Switzerland has begun the process, and will likely have it in 2019. Italy I predict won’t happen for another 10 years at least, since they just legalized civil unions.

        Of course, if the European Court of Human Rights rules in our favor, it would force all EU nations to recognize same-sex marriages (though not to perform them necessarily).

    • scream4ever

      They will likely have it soon, as it will be part of the coalition agreement with the formation of the new parliament.

      • William

        It will take dumping the DUP.

        • ChrisMorley

          PM Theresa May’s Conservative government depends on the DUP’s 10 votes to survive in the Westminster Parliament.

          She dumps them would mean her government has to resign. It would lose the inevitable Vote of Confidence.

          • Hue-Man

            Something has to give – the DUP is also against an Ireland/North Ireland Brexit solution (borderless Ireland with an internal border between N.I. and rest of UK). No Irish solution, no agreement with the EU.

            My guess: new elections which Conservatives lose.

          • ChrisMorley

            There’s really no time for elections. The deadline is already upon us.

            ‘Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, has told member states that the British government has just 48 hours to agree a text on a potential deal or it will be told that negotiations will not move on to the next stage.’
            The EU needs Britain’s text on Friday. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/06/uk-has-48-hours-to-agree-potential-deal-or-brexit-talks-cannot-progress

            The political situation in London, Belfast and Dublin is too complicated and fragile to predict what will happen on either Brexit or marriage equality.

      • ChrisMorley

        Unfortunately in N Ireland marriage equality isn’t going to happen anytime soon.
        The Power-Sharing Executive (Democratic Unionists + Sinn Fein) collapsed many months ago, so there is no government administration in Northern Ireland and the NI Assembly cannot even meet without a Power-Sharing Executive. It’s a legal requirement. Westminster had to step in to approve/impose an annual budget for the province by Direct Rule.

        The Democratic Unionist Party controls PM Theresa May’s Conservatives, because her UK minority government depends on the DUP’s 10 votes for its survival. The DUP have just demonstrated this week that they hold the whip hand over the Conservatives by blocking the draft Brexit deal between the UK and the European Union.

        Amnesty International UK runs one of the marriage equality campaigns. They are now calling on the Westminster Parliament to impose marriage equality on NI. That would really piss off the DUP and this would likely be enough to cause the Conservative government’s collapse.

        Northern Ireland: Westminster must now legislate for marriage equality – campaigners https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/northern-ireland-westminster-must-now-legislate-marriage-equality-campaigners

  • greenmanTN

    Bravo Joe for calling out the “Christian” on his lies about the Masterpiece Bakery couple. I bet he wasn’t expecting to be called on it so quickly!

  • Max_1
  • Max_1

    sry… meant to post that o/t in the Moore thread

    • johncAtl

      It’s okay. There are only a few assholes purists here that get upset about comments posted in the wrong thread.

  • Secure

    Congrats to Australia!!

  • MB
  • Blake J Butler

    Did this get mentioned that NYC passed a ban on conversion therapy the 1st of this month ?

    https://www.metro.us/news/local-news/new-york/new-york-city-council-bans-conversion-therapy

  • MB
  • Dayglo

    We knew you could do it, Oz … and all my best to Lizzie Birdsworth!

  • Phil in Colorado

    Congratulations, Australia !!!

  • e jerry powell

    And Margaret Court’s head won’t stop spinning.

    • billbear1961

      Livia to Claudius, in “I, Claudius”: “If that head of yours doesn’t stop twitching, I’ll have it off and stuck on a pole. THAT will fix it!”

    • Cackalaquiano

      Meh, that’s because she’s a demon…

  • Blake J Butler
    • billbear1961

      If he resigns, it’s an admission of guilt.

      If he’s innocent and wishes to protest his innocence, he has every RIGHT to insist on waiting for the findings of the ethics inquiry.

      • Blake J Butler

        Problem is though, his popularity NOW is tanking as we speak. Nate silver talked like he would face a tough re-election in 2020 if he stayed on.

        • billbear1961

          It matters whether he’s guilty or innocent.

          And, all I can say is that those in his own party who have called for his head, BEFORE the findings of an ethics committee, had better DAMNED well DEMAND the resignation of that goddamned MONSTER, Moore, if he’s elected!! He resigns, or they SHUT DOWN proceedings in the Senate!

          And we’d better also hear their DEMANDS that Trump make a deposition in the Zervos defamation case against him. It’s TIME the allegations against that PIG were examined again and the TRUTH unearthed, once and for all, that HE be held ACCOUNTABLE!!

          • Blake J Butler

            I’m not asking for him to resign, I am saying that mob rule is hard to come around especially when your own party is calling for your resignation before proceedings begin.

          • billbear1961

            I didn’t mean to suggest YOU were calling on him to resign, Blake.

            They’re very “brave” going after Franken. Let’s see how courageous and determined they’ll be going after the MONSTERS in the GOP, who’ll probably tell them to fuck off!

          • RJ Bone

            Hey billbear? Would you run for office? We’d move to your district to vote for you.

      • leastyebejudged

        How many women need to come froward for you to believe them ?

        • clay

          If it were simply the number of accusations/accusers there would be a new right-wing, church-house political action opportunity for their stay-at-home moms contingent.

      • clay

        Same trap the GOP put themselves in with Moore.

        I suspect that Conyers resigned (from the hospital) more for physical health reasons then for guilt. Even with a settlement, sometimes one settles with the crazy person to simply make the problem go away.

    • netxtown

      Franken needs to take McConnell’s advice: let the people of Minnesota decide.

  • greenmanTN
  • ozbrad
  • Phil in Colorado

    This is truly beautiful…. With all of the insanity in our own country right now, it’s wonderful to know that progress is always being made! You deserve this happiness, Australia!

    • billbear1961

      The Light of Freedom and JUSTICE is kept lit in the world’s TRUE democracies.

      It can be relit HERE if people refuse to give their consent to GANGSTER government, if they launch massive and relentless protests to STOP the criminals who have captured control of our government in their tracks!

  • Blake J Butler

    Murdoch’s house in LA burned down.

    one good thing came out of the ongoing wildfires.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/media/363573-report-rupert-murdochs-la-home-burning-down-in-wildfire

    • Reality.Bites

      doesn’t count unless he was in it

      • clay

        It’d be the only way to change his mind regarding global climate change.

  • Oh, Parker

    Wonderful news!

  • billbear1961

    It says, in Wiki, that “the law will come into effect no later than 28 days after royal assent is provided.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recognition_of_same-sex_unions_in_Australia

    I was under the impression they wanted weddings to begin by Christmas, at the latest.

    • Shane Gowland

      Royal assent will likely happen tomorrow. Marriages will not commence until the new year, however, as one must give the state 30 days notice of intention to marry.

      • billbear1961

        Oh, I’m sorry they’ll have to wait that long (but after waiting YEARS, another 30 days is bearable, I suppose).

        I wonder if some already HAVE given notice that they intend to marry, in anticipation of the vote.

        I still hold out hope of some Christmas weddings, Shane!

        • ChrisMorley

          It’s unlikely that any couples have been allowed to give notice of marriage while such a marriage was illegal. People can start now.

          • Reality.Bites

            From the website of an Australian wedding officiant:


            In exceptional cases, this waiting time may be waived (called a Shortening of Time) by the ‘prescribed authority’ (usually the state Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages or a local Court Registrar) for a fee. If you need a Shortening of Time, I can assist you with this.

            I’d expect that in some states they’ll be waiving it perhaps for older couples, or where one is in poor health, etc.

            Assuming Australia is like other countries (except upside down, of course. Still don’t understand why they don’t fall off) the first rush of couples marrying will be those in their 70s and 80s who’ve been together longer than Margaret Court’s turkey wattle.

    • clay

      I was under the impression that the law would change by Christmas– a lot (to many) legislators ignore actual implementation and administration. I can’t tell if that’s a strength (by pushing against that) or a weakness (by rewarding it) of parliamentary systems.

      Still a whole lot better than Austria’s 1 year.

  • Salton

    Congrats Australia!

  • RJ Bone

    Excellent!!!

    (now please pay attention, Australia, and avoid chasing this accomplishment with the election of that huge pile of evil in your country that will attempt to dismantle this. Please don’t be like us and continue heading the good and proper direction :):):) )

    • Reality.Bites

      The anti-gay bigots are currently the ones in power. There is no danger to the law from Australian politicians.

  • Robincho

    Good ON ya, mates!…

  • ChrisMorley

    REPORTED and FLAGGED

    Fake Name Job Scammers Today:
    – “Carissa”
    – “Linda”
    Extra Fake Name Job Scammer:
    – “Monica”

    http://www.hrinasia.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/job_scams.jpg

  • Tawreos

    It is so weird to see people in a government do things the proper way. Those that opposed it tried everything they could to let their opposition be known, but when their defeat was inevitable most of them bowed to the will of the people and supported the measure. Nicely done, Australia.

  • j.martindale

    And amazingly, they did it while refusing to empower religious based discrimination.

  • Hue-Man

    Tony Abbott, Andrew Hastie, Michael Sukkar, Kevin Andrews, Scott Morrison, Alex Hawke and George Christensen all effectively abstained for the final vote.

    The MPs all left the House of Representatives when the second reading of
    the bill passed on voices, so were absent during the final division,
    when all present voted in favour except Coalition MPs David Littleproud,
    Russell Broadbent and Keith Pitt and crossbencher Bob Katter
    .

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/politicsnow-ssm-bill-decided-today-citizenship-saga-continues/news-story/642ba787fcb52a24f08d61be8ac650d7

    • greenmanTN

      So Abbott’s make-nice claim that this was a good move for Australia was bullshit, as we all suspected it to be. He also said something about celebrating his lesbian sister’s engagement(?), but if she has any sense whatsoever she will tell him to stay the hell away.

      • Reality.Bites

        While yes, he’s generally a piece of shit, it’s quite common for many members to be absent when there’s a voice vote and no doubt of passage.

        He’s also, frankly, no longer relevant in any way. There is no politician more powerless than one who is persona non grata in his own party and even more so in its rival.

      • Hue-Man

        It’s a sign of the progress that has been made since 2000 that only 4 MPs voted against marriage equality and a handful abstained. The June 2005 vote in Canada was much closer – 158 for, 133 against, and 16 abstentions. Legislators have changed their minds – because they want to get re-elected and voters have changed their minds.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Members_of_the_38th_Canadian_Parliament_and_same-sex_marriage

  • AlternativeQuacks

    OT – Some brilliant artists (Fantich & Young) have come up with the perfect depiction for this kleptocratic 1%-er Trump-Ryan-McConnell banana republic we’re living in. Their works are supposedly made with real human hair and teeth.

    http://s03.s3c.es/imag/_v0/640×450/a/0/2/alex-predator-efe-2.jpg

    • greenmanTN

      Apex Predator is a good description.

  • Ninja0980

    Congrats to Australia!

  • Robin Bailey
  • JT

    Yay! G’day, Australia!
    https://i.imgur.com/lVXBqbY.gif

  • Gustav2
  • HZ81

    Yaay, congrats Aussie bros and sistas! What a wonderful way to begin the day.

  • ByronK

    Congratulations Australia! Welcome to the 21st century!

  • Boreal
  • SoCalGal20

    Congratulations Australia!!!!!

  • SoCalGal20
    • Treant

      O noz! What’s she going to do if she AND her son are out of a good grifting job?

      (Probably lobby to have the wages cut since she no longer has to sign marriage certificates).

    • IDavid

      Gonna love to watch this one, thx for posting

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      Still pissing off the gays. Still can’t dress. Still has shitty hair.

      Cause or coincidence, you decide.

      • Reality.Bites

        Neither. Weird-ass pentecostal. They’re not allowed to cut their hair, wear make-up and have to dress “modestly.”

        • clay

          so . . . Effects.

    • canoebum

      That is delicious!

  • BearEyes

    So nice to wake up to good news.
    Congrats Australia!

  • Reality.Bites

    OT:

    Call me a curmudgeon and hyper-critical, but can we all just agree from now on that headstands need to be done barefoot or with cute shoes?

    https://78.media.tumblr.com/1542ba1d47a9d859a64b4fe01fc68a46/tumblr_p02lr2PAzd1u5u0kro1_500.jpg

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      Wait– is someone wearing shoes?

    • Ninja0980

      In this guy’s case, the shoes aren’t the only thing that need to go.

      • Reality.Bites

        Poor guy. The photographer asked him to take down his shorts and he’s been mired in indecision ever since.

    • greenmanTN

      Fine. You threw him back, so I’ll take him!

      • Reality.Bites

        I threw back the shoes. Have at ’em!

  • this is a wonderful bit of news that balances out my morning wtf moment. which is to say, my city’s govt was just raided by the FBI, HUD and IRS. no one, including our usually good alt-media, has any clue why. this is a democratic town with a dem major and majority council. some people are suggesting the traitor’s flunkies are trying to gin up news to distract from the fact that he’s a traitor. but it’s really complicated, given the fact that our ‘democratic’ mayor raises the majority of his money in the almost all white, republican voting ‘burbs and has no actual support from residents in the city, who also just happen to vote with machines controlled by a republican owned firm.

    srsly, my head is spinning like linda blair’s right now. gah.

    • adding, despite my moniker, i live in Cleveland right now.

      • fuow

        Oh, well, that explains the confusion. I was having a very hard time of it figuring out why anyone should be surprised by the feds inquiring after Chicago politics….

    • clay

      HUD, IRS, and Cleveland?
      City politicians have been embezzling housing funds (as Cleveland seems under-served)?

  • AdamTh

    When are the Christian fundies going to take note of the date – Dec 7 – and start referring to it as a “second day of infamy”?

    • Reality.Bites

      The American ones? Never. Happened in another country. They couldn’t care less once it’s over.

      The Australian ones? If Canada and the UK are models, no one’s going to care what they think. Our media only cares about them when there’s a legitimate news story on one of “their” issues – us and abortion, generally.

      And if our Conservative parties are any indication, the Australian “Liberals” will make sure this is never a legitimate news story again. It’s a loser issue for them because it divides them and unites their opposition even across parties.

  • -M-

    It’s a good morning. 😊

  • Baltimatt

    And why did this take so long, again?

    • Ninja0980

      Bigots and politics, that’s why.

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      Because Jesus left the tomb too soon?

    • Ross

      Assholism.

  • Christopher
  • Gerry Fisher

    YayYayYay!!!

  • gaycuckhubby

    Yes!!!
    Call me heteronormative if you must, but being married has been one of the greatest joys of my life. the stability and safety and protection and love I have in my marriage and the sense of belonging and purpose that I have as a husband blows me away. It’s a bigger deal than I thought it would be
    Congratulations Australia!

    • it’s not that we want to call you “heteronormative,” those of us who remain partnered but unmarried. it’s more about focusing on the fact that true equality involved much, much more than just marriage. that’s the queer part of my comment.

      also, i am very resentful of the many benefits married people enjoy that we do not, simply because we choose not to register and pay for our union in the eyes of the state. marriage is… honestly? just words and a ceremony. real commitment is its own thing, and no piece of paper can guarantee it will last. i am the child of a divorced couple and divorced myself, so i guess that colors my understanding of it. another thing i resent is the amount of money our community raised so people could get married, and how much of that money did not go to the efforts to make it also a law that we cannot be fired for who we are. i recently experienced some of that and i’m still quite bitter.

      • leastyebejudged

        And that’s why your voice is rightfully IGNORED.

        You only perceive the rights, and none of the responsibilities that come with it. You’re really quite a sickening person.

        It’s fucking LAUGHABLE for you to speak of “real commitment”.

        • wow. harsh much? um, dood. i was just talking about things like employment equality and taxes. i don’t hate anyone who marries nor am i mad that some people are happy to be in that state. are you a russian?

          • leastyebejudged

            I’m not the bitter one about everybody else’s marriage.

            At least try to be honest for a moment, do you do anything BUT lie ?

          • this is where i begin to get nasty. go take your meds, Troll.

          • yup. troll. thank you discuss.

          • leastyebejudged

            Begin? Yeah, right.

          • you are working really hard at being banned from this place, aren’t you? well, i guess i can send Joe notification of your abuse. see ya, Felicia.

          • leastyebejudged

            I would expect nothing less from a hypocrite and a bully such as yourself.

          • fuow

            I’m not sure what it is, but that’s my second block in all the time Joe’s offered the option, here.
            I don’t agree with you on a whole slew of things, but I truly value your commitment to our queer community.

        • gaycuckhubby

          Woah! Let’s cut back on the rhetoric there. Chicago Dyke did not insult anyone personally. I respect her viewpoint.

          • leastyebejudged

            Bullshit, are you illiterate?

          • gaycuckhubby

            Lol. You’re cute

          • fuow

            While I disagree with her on this (and many issues and problems) I very much respect her honesty and commitment to working with the rest of us even when she doesn’t support our views 100%. Something a lot of us gay men could learn from.

          • gaycuckhubby

            Amen!

        • fuow

          OK, that does it. Your attack on chicago dyke just got you on my extremely short ‘block’ list.
          Unpardonable.

          • John30013

            I thought I had blocked this one a whole ago, but I guess not. In any case, I’ve rectified that now.

      • Friday

        Frankly, the legal rights and responsibilities of civil marriage can have a great deal to *do* with keeping one’s commitments: I’ve more than once been separated from partners by mundane circumstance, like health care, or our ability to secure housing, or, emigrate to Canada, for that matter. It’s not a *substitute* for real commitment but in many circumstances it can have a lot to *do* with enabling people to keep those commitments in the real world.
        And frankly, no relationship needs the stress of having one or both partners terrified of being completely destitute if something really bad were to happen, being legal strangers to your own family, maybe stepkid/s, potentially hostile relatives having more rights in your life and joint property than you do, whatnot.

        When it comes to the marriage equality battle, it wasn’t *our* side that chose that ground, if you recall. The Christian Right chose to attack there because they thought it would be an easy win and a way to reinforce claims that LGBT people were some kind of aliens for *not,* according to their propaganda, ever wanting to get married and all. The fact is, till they really took their ‘culture war’ on us primetime, we didn’t think we’d *get* to even talking about civil marriage for decades, but they had a fight on their hands when they wanted to reduce us to sub-citizens with *Constitutional* amendments.

  • Sam

    If, like me, anyone who was sleeping last night and wants to watch the vote in action this morning, here is the video. The vote starts at 17:53.

    http://parlview.aph.gov.au/mediaPlayer.php?videoID=378290&operation_mode=parlview

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • misterjack

    Thanks, Joe, for clocking that lying christianist!

  • Karl Dubhe 2

    Congrats to everyone in Aus who wants go get hitched. Mad buggers, the lot of you. 🙂 I dunno if the pic fits the news, but I liked the pic.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e1e24920790e83373cd92e4dd6a66a42960ee7548641922c20198667337346da.jpg

  • Cackalaquiano

    How do you say “congratulations!!” in Australian?

    • The New Paige Turner™

      “Bend over”

  • Reality.Bites

    Gosh I’m confused this morning. Reading about this while watching the Russell Howard Hour. He introduces a comedian who appears to be of African descent. I’m curious right away about where he might be from, since Australia has such a small population of African descent. So I’m wondering is he an immigrant from Africa, the US, Britain, the Caribbean, etc.

    Then he starts to talk with an ordinary English accent and I remember that reading about Australia doesn’t suddenly mean I’m watching an Australian show.

  • Frommer_Gast

    This is SO unfair!
    215 comments within a few minutes for Australia opening marriage –
    and only lousy 25 comments (22 without mine) in two days for Austria!
    Whence this imbalance???
    Size or what???

    • zhera

      Way to focus on what’s important! How about being happy for both Austria and Australia, and perhaps recognize that Australia has been through a really ugly campaign?

      Geez.

      • Frommer_Gast

        You´re much too constructive for this forum …
        🙂

    • clay

      Size matters.

      Seriously? The US has a lot more in common with Australia, culturally, than Austria, unless you count our recent Nazi slide.

      • Frommer_Gast

        But we in Austria invented mountains!
        A geographer should know this!
        The US would be pretty dreary without mountains!

        • clay

          Meh, they get in the way of the view.

          • Frommer_Gast

            This is the bottom view (no pun intended).
            On top you can see much farther than you could without them. (At least the Austrian mountains work this way.)

          • clay

            (but not what’s behind them)

        • MBear

          Oh…the US is quite dreary even with mountains. 😉

        • Canadian Observer

          I thought the Tibetans invented mountains. Or do they just do it better than the Austrians?

          • Frommer_Gast

            They need higher mountains to elevate their Dalai Lama.
            Apart from this their mountains are average.
            Lowe average, I would say.

    • gaycuckhubby

      Americans are much more familiar with Australian pop culture than we are Austria. That’s my guess

    • fuow

      I suspect part of it may be that a very large contingent of commentators here (inklusive ich) are German….
      (Better add /s to that one, this being the Internet.)
      Actually, most Americans neither knew that Austria didn’t already treat us gays like humans and, sadly, neither did they know how far to the Nazi Right that country’s government has drifted.

      • Frommer_Gast

        Hier im Fourm gibt´s eine Deutschsprachige Minderheit?
        War mir nicht bewusst!
        Schade übrigens, dass es kein vergleichbares Deutschsprachiges Forum gibt … zumindest mir ist keins bekannt.

        • fuow

          Mir auch nicht.
          JoeMyGod ist wirklich einmalig!

        • Fritz Keppler

          Aber freilich.

          • Frommer_Gast

            Hej – das klingt schon sehr Ostösterreichisch …
            Immer nett, Landsleute im Ausland zu treffen!
            (Außer natürlich die Landsleute sind Krätzn.
            Aber die findet man sicher nicht in diesem Forum!)

          • Fritz Keppler

            Bin eigentlich Amerikaner, aus New Orleans, hab aber vor 50 Jahren in Österreich studiert, in Innsbruck. Auch für die Bundeswehr gearbeitet.

          • Frommer_Gast

            Bundeswehr ist jetzt eher die Deutsche Armee – unsere heißt Bundesheer.
            Vor 50 Jhren war da schon ein Unterschied zwischen den beiden.
            Wenn auch nicht ideologisch.

    • Reality.Bites

      Many reasons – Australia’s received coverage for a long time, with a public campaign in an English-speaking country. It’s going to get more attention than a low-key court case in a pretty small country where the media publish in Austrian. Yes, I said Austrian just for fun. I know they speak Dutch. 😉

  • TampaZeke

    So, what kind of “religious liberty” exemptions made it through? Something did since it’s in the name of the bill announced by the Clerk.

  • Mihangel apYrs

    Finally! The fourth member of the old Commonwealth is in step with UK, Canada and NZ

    • GanymedeRenard

      (Cough cough *** Northern Ireland *** cough cough)

      • Mihangel apYrs

        Nasty cough you have there.

        • GanymedeRenard

          Not as nasty, I’m afraid, as NI’s politicians’ reticence to recognize the equality of its people. That’s beyond nasty: it’s despicable.

          • Mihangel apYrs

            I don’t need telling – I lived through the Troubles, though fortunately in Wales where the IRA didn’t come. Watching the politics in that time in Stormont was nauseating

          • GanymedeRenard

            Therefore, I’m sure you know where the nastiness really is – not in my “cough”.

          • Mihangel apYrs

            lighten up “dude”! It was a flippant remark in the face of an unpalatable fact.

            I have lived to see gay sex being decriinalised in the UK (I was 13yo) with all the manoeuvring since

          • GanymedeRenard

            Exactly what fact was unpalatable in my first reply, “dude”?

            And, would you like a monument for being 13 when gay sex was decriminalized where you were living at the time?

          • Mihangel apYrs

            You’ve got aggressive quite quickly haven’t you?
            Unpalatable fact – DUP continues to fuck with gay rights.

            At 13, fifty years ago, I realised that I wasn’t going to be “illegal”.

            I don’t know where you are, but the US is still in the grips of religious intolerance, curbing gay rights where they can – so reflect on that.

            PS
            I’m blocking you – life’s too short

          • GanymedeRenard

            “Aggressive”? Me? How so?

            Your comment has nothing to do with what I first wrote. Don’t like it? Fine, get lost.

            The U.S. is a chaos in itself. I don’t see what this has to do with anything I’ve said.

            Oh, and you’re blocking me!! I’m soooo mortified!… NOT. Bye, Felicia!! (Good riddance).

  • fuow

    Yeah, that’s what comes from voting.

  • MaryJOGrady

    Congratulations, Australia! {Sings “Advance, Australia Fair,” the little-known Australian national anthem, then “Waltzing Matilda,” the one everyone loves.]

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    🙂

  • Paula

    I am very happy for them. I hope it goes well. x-tians can be some very nasty MOFOs when it comes to their jeeby.

  • Kevin Andrews

    The Christ-O-Fascists are unable to attain any victory for their toxic causes. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3630959ba3ec6920201629aa56a42e0a4e7d1d0a4644342a7a68463985b5a9c9.png

  • GanymedeRenard

    Bravo!!!! Yes!!! Yes!!! Yaaaaassss!!! It was about time, dear Aussies!!! Congrats from another continent!!!

    Edit to add: All eyes on you now, Northern Ireland.

  • HaHaHa

    Congrats Aussies!!

  • iambu

    Ack! Super late to the party, but YAY AUSTRALIA!!! Congrats!!! *extra dorky happy dance*

  • NZArtist

    Woohoo, and about fucking time.
    So when does this come into effect? When can same-sex couples get married in Aus?

  • This vote is a great thing, but a legal decision similar to the U.S. Supreme Court ruling would have been better.

    People shouldn’t have to wait until public opinion goes so strongly in favor of marriage equality that legislators can vote the right way and then hold a party.

    I don’t recall which year the State Supreme Court in Idaho ruled in favor of marriage equality. The justices did the right thing, and it took real courage. They were voted out of office later, too.

    If I have to name marriage equality heroes, those justices in Idaho are on my list.

    • It was in 2014. Here’s the New York Times report on the Idaho ruling. I’m sorry I can’t find documentation of the justices being removed in a subsequent election, so I’m recalling that from memory. https://nyti.ms/2BNxh96