US House Impeachment Bill Fails In 364-58 Vote

Politico reports:

House Democrats overwhelmingly joined Republicans on Wednesday to defeat an attempt to impeach President Donald Trump. But 58 Democrats supported the bid to consider impeachment over the objections of House Democratic leaders, who viewed the measure as a distraction in a Republican-controlled Congress.

The motion to sideline the measure — killing the effort — was approved 364-58, with four Democrats voting present. The vote was forced by Rep. Al Green (D-Texas), who introduced articles of impeachment describing Trump as a bigot who incites hate and has demeaned the presidency.

  • pj

    i prefer trump taken out of the white house in handcuffs.

    • Christopher

      I think he has to be impeached first. But I could be wrong.

      • Todd20036

        Impeached by the House, then convicted by the Senate.

        But I’m not sure if you can be arrested directly for breaking the law too.

        Mueller may be able to take him out in handcuffs.

        • boatboy_srq

          Leg irons. Straight to the pillory. Which will be welded shut once he’s in it.

      • pj

        obstruction of justice, tax fraud, racketeering, mail fraud. money laundering, …..

        • Christopher

          All of that would be laid out in an impeachment trial. So, not gonna happen anytime soon.

        • Tawreos

          And that was just yesterday

        • Rocco

          Very nice summary…

    • gaycuckhubby

      VERY unlikely to happen

    • peacfulseas inWA

      I would prefer and most likely scenario would be taken out in a straight jacket and gagged.

      • Tawreos

        Gagged with Chinese finger traps on to keep the twitterbating to a minimum

    • Rocco

      If there’s any justice…

  • Kelly Lape

    I picked a great day to leave the Democratic Party.

    • Beth Sanders

      you mean democRAT party?

    • JT

      When was that?

      • Kelly Lape

        Today. I phoned both WA Senators to express my disgust at their call for Franken to resign. I’m done. I won’t support cowards.

  • melllt

    How can this not be a no brainer yes vote for every Democrat? And at least the few republicans that have brains. FFS.

    • gaycuckhubby

      Because if you impeach a president with no actual proven evidence yet. I emphasize yet. Then you’ve opened the door to every single president getting impeached if their party is not in power

      • The_Wretched

        What do you think happened to Clinton?

  • Lazycrockett

    I’m surprised it got to the floor.

    • band

      “Green offered the proposal as a so-called privileged motion, a procedural tactic that allows a single member to force a vote. He had flirted with forcing a vote on articles of impeachment in October but backed away amid pressure from Democratic leaders at the time. Republican leaders then moved to “table” the motion, a procedural step to bottle it up indefinitely.”

  • Publius

    It’s whatever. The process was too hasty and sloppy. These things happen in due course, and in this case, for example, when Mueller’s investigation is finished. Democrats shouldn’t get ahead of themselves, and instead should build a solid case.

    • The_Wretched

      Yes, now’s not the time to talk about it. Let’s not talk about it next time too.

      • Publius

        Is that what I said? Identify where I said that.

        What I said is Democrats need to wait until Mueller is done.

        • The_Wretched

          I’m making an allusion to that argument as used in the gun control debate and a firm prediction about what’ll be said the next time impeachment comes up….likely with some regularity over the next 3 years.

          • Publius

            So in other words, that’s not what I said.

            The difference between gun control and this, is the gun control debate will last forever because it hinges on philosophical arguments. Impeachment, if it happens at all, will hinge upon a successful Mueller investigation. Trump will not be impeached without one.

          • The_Wretched

            “will hinge upon a successful Mueller investigation”

            Oddly enough, I think it hinges on political will. Mueller investigation is only part of it. It’s reductionist to tag all hopes to Obi-Wan him.

  • Frostbite

    One attempt down, how many dozens to go to catch up to their ACA repeals?

    • Lindoro Almaviva

      and how stupid those looked then and now?

      • melllt

        Trying to repeal a healthcare bill that provided millions of Americans with healthcare is not the same as trying to impeach the shitbag that is Trump.

        • Lindoro Almaviva

          an yet, both attempts look just as foolish.

          • kareemachan

            Nope. No comparison whatsoever.

  • Kruhn

    A little bit of history, boys and girls, it took four times for Thaddeus Stevens (who was a bit like Congressman Green) to get an impeachment resolution through against Andrew Johnson.

  • Boreal

    Keep bringing it up for a vote. Attach it to every fucking piece of legislation.

    • Natty Enquirer

      All that will do is make them look like fools and the MSM will stop covering it.

      • Christopher

        Yeah, but it’s a nice thought. 😉

      • Boreal

        Republicans control all 3 branches of govt because they excited their rube followers by attempting to repeal the ACA. The MSM didn’t stop covering that.

        • NZArtist

          So now you know who controls the news cycles.

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    • Adam Schmidt

      While we need to remove Trump (and the rest of his band of looters), we also need to avoid making the GOP’s mistake… becoming the party of “NO”. If all we stand for is removing Trump, what will we do once we get rid of him? I think this is why most of the Democrat leadership is saying that we need to avoid focusing on impeaching him.

      • CottonBlimp

        I’m sick of people talking about the “mistakes” of the party that now controls our country.

        • Adam Schmidt

          Right now we have one party that doesn’t know how to govern even with control of all three branches of government. I’d rather not have two parties that are that short-sighted and idiotic.

        • DJD562

          You are correct… the criminals, pedophiles, and white supremacists of this republican administration and congress are not making “mistakes”. Their anti-American behavior is intentional and well orchestrated.

  • Lindoro Almaviva

    Stupid. they are looking exactly like Republicans looked around the same time during Obama’s first years. They need to stop acting the fool with the screaming IMPEACH and start working on winning the house and the senate so when it is time he CAN be impeached

    • Tread

      Exactly. Please don’t make ads for the Republicans to run with, idiots.

    • TK

      Not only that, it give the MSM a chance to make lazy clickbait headlines that the average American will look at and assume they mean that Trump hasn’t done anything wrong, so the attempt failed.

    • I agree. I wish it could happen NOW, but they are a bit premature. Mueller isn’t even finished with his investigation yet, and from what I’ve read, that has the promise to make the case for taking BOTH Trump and Pence out at the same time.

    • another_steve

      Assuming he doesn’t bring about global nuclear holocaust, Trump in the White House is the Democrats’ dream come true leading up to next year’s elections. Who knows what ruin he’s yet to bring to his party. Best case scenario is that he tarnishes the Republican brand for years and years to come.

      Let’s win back the House and the Senate in 2018!

    • The_Wretched

      Drive by.

    • CottonBlimp

      He can be impeached right now. Impeachment is a democratic process, not a legal one. FFS, did you forget that the last President impeached was guilty of lying? Something Trump does on an hourly basis?

      • Lindoro Almaviva

        Lying on Twitter and lying to congress… one is a crime and the other one a bad habit. I’ll let you figure out the rest

  • Lantor

    Gods, it feels like a Friday…

  • pj

    if at first you dont succeed …..

    • Lindoro Almaviva

      try 87 more times, like the republicans and the ACA?

      • pj

        today will bruise his ego. and im for anything that does that.

        • gaycuckhubby

          No it won’t, ever will inflate his ego

          • Lantor

            I’m shocked I’ve not heard the rumblings of a twitter storm yet. Although, I’ve not refreshed my browser.

      • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

        You joke, but that’s a very logical retort when the right uses the failure of this vote to claim President Dollhands McPussyGrab has some sort of mandate to continue his reign of terror.

  • Natty Enquirer

    What a surprise. Maybe they can introduce an impeachment bill every month.

    • Lindoro Almaviva

      Mr Speaker, i would like to take my turn to introduce our monthly impeachment articles on Trump

      Senator, are you OK if we attach your bill to the monthly attempt to repeal the ACA?

      (from the back of the house) I second that motion, they are both as useless as a zero before the decimal point. can we just kill them with a voice vote?

      House parliamentarian: I am Ok with that.

    • Longpole

      Didn’t the gop vote 50 times to repeal Obamacare while Obama was pres.
      Didn’t work did it?

  • Only 58. Well, at least we now know where the weak links are.

    Edit: On second thought, the summary of the impeachment articles are missing anything related to collusion Russia, the Emoluments Clause, and obstruction of justice: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000160-2860-d9e9-a365-ef7f27540000. Those details really need to be in there.

    Granted, I think inciting hatred is an impeachable offense given the vague language of the Constitution if Congress wanted to go there.

  • gaycuckhubby

    Ugghh. This seems stupid. Makes Dems look weak and Trump look invincible

  • S1AMER

    Quixotic gestures generally make a few people feel good but are of no benefit to (and may actually harm) everyone else.

    Unless and until we have actual, actionable information on which to base impeachment, arguing for impeachment is, well, ridiculous.

    What matters now, more than anything, is for Democrats to displace Republicans in the majorities in at least one house of Congress, and throughout state governments. THAT is how we save the country (and move toward impeachment, if defensible grounds exist).

  • bkmn
    • Tread

      YESSSSS!!!! Fucking poetic justice.

    • gaycuckhubby

      Love this!

  • Elsewhere1010

    You don’t hold a vote unless you have the votes. If not, it’s just political theater and a waste of time.

    Trump’s next message? “I’m so awesome even the Democrats don’t want to vote to impeach me.”

    • Hank

      True, but is it any different than having Ted Cruz read Dr. Seuss as a filibuster???

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  • bkmn

    So now the sitting Republicans are on record supporting Hair Furor. Next…

  • PickyPecker
    • Christopher

      I have no sympathy for her.

      She knew what he was like when she married him. Birds of a feather. (No pun intended Mr. Pecker.)

      • vorpal

        She’s just an opportunistic whore that was hoping for a sugar daddy that would die off quickly.

        I don’t think there’s any amount of money that could make me stomach lying under an amorphous, grunting, gyrating blob of rancid orange flesh with a rabid badger crazy glued to its forehead.

        • Randy Ellicott

          Please! He doesn’t get on top he is far too lazy…

          • vorpal

            I’m imagining his golf cart is involved in the process.

          • Randy Ellicott

            Thank you! Have to clean the beer off my floor after it came out my nose!

    • The_Wretched

      She may not like where she is but I’m far from certain her hands are clean.

  • andrew

    I agree with the Democratic House leadership. The time to move against Trump will come after the Mueller investigation completes it’s work.

    • The_Wretched

      Dem House leadership has a fraction of the blame for the current circumstances. I’m not deferring to their judgment absent them making public their reasoning.

  • SLK in SF

    I want Trump GONE — but this was premature. Let Mueller continue his work.

  • gaycuckhubby

    Remind me again why we’re pissed at Pelosi and Dianne Feinstein for saying impeachment shouldn’t be on the table? This is why.

    • Lawerence Collins

      Here’s hoping that those two career, establishment, corporate Democrats get voted out by their much more progressive primary challengers. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bd08fb6cdfa8fc0309f0f5a1bd2b6e68059128975147252e2c75a0be6b580998.jpg

    • Treant

      To some extent. P-DiFi was disallowing that and opening any investigations. That I totally disagreed with; we should have demanded independent prosecution just as we have today.

      Once the data is in from Mueller? Then the votes will tell you who supports the treason I’m 99.999% sure is there.

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  • gaycuckhubby

    If this will succeed then every single president from now on out will be impeached within 6 months of office.

    • boatboy_srq

      Sets the record straight immediately, where closed-door planning for a one-term Presidency could not.

    • -M-

      He’s blatantly guilty of multiple impeachment worthy offenses. Taking emoluments, using the office for profit, incompetence/dereliction of duty…

  • JT

    US House Impeachment Bill Fails In 364-58 Vote

    While there’s a criminal traitor in the White House and Democrats self-immolate over purity issues.

  • Treant

    As it should have failed, badly. The evidence is not there yet, and therefore can’t have been presented to the members of Congress or the American people.

    Now if somebody found a stain on a dress…

    • Anthony_Central_IL

      Bill Clinton’s impeachment was a self-defeating circus on the part of Newt Gingrich’s Republicans. The congressional elections of 1998 were in the sixth year of a two-term president’s tenure, which is the so-called six year itch (link here). Every historical trend would indicate that the president’s party loses seats in Congress in this scenario. Instead, the Republicans lost seats in Congress in 1998 because of the backlash against their impeachment of Clinton when the Republicans knew perfectly well that there wasn’t a chance that the Senate would convict and remove Clinton from office.

      Fast-forward to 2018 in the unlikely event that the Democrats win the House. As in 1998 there would be zero chance that the Senate would convict and remove Trump. Impeachment proceedings in the House between 2019 and 2020 would result in a Newt-Gingrich-style disaster for the Democrats in the 2020 elections.

      • Tomcat

        Says who?

        • Anthony_Central_IL

          You’re suggesting an impeachment in the House with no chance of conviction in the Senate. That is the very definition of a political circus, which usually doesn’t play well among voters.

      • The_Wretched

        Bill Clinton’s impeachment derailed his presidency for more than an year. That’s extremely far from nothing my dear LCC.

      • Treant

        Possibly. This one would have the advantage of having actual data behind it, and against a President that two thirds of the nation either disapproves of or openly hates.

    • Reality.Bites

      Regardless of evidence, you don’t do it till every Democrat (give or take) can and will stand up and say why they are voting for impeachment. The only reason for pushing impeachment is to draw a line in the sand between the Democrats and Republicans.

      • Bunter

        How many democrats are there, and how many are needed? (not from the US)

        • -M-

          They’re a minority and it takes a supermajority to impeach.

        • TominDC

          The process starts in the house of representatives, where only a simple majority in required (194 democrats out of 435). Then two-thirds of the 100 senators (46 democrats, 2 independents) need to find him guilty.

          • Bunter

            Can you explain to me why the Democrates voted against the impeachment? It’s all pretty confusing from the outside–

          • TominDC

            I’m not an insider and can only speculate.

            Impeachment proceedings are very partisan, so no republican is going to vote for it unless there’s very clear evidence of wrongdoing. (For example, all democratic senators voted “not guilty” on Bill Clinton’s perjury charge in his senate trial.)

            Since no republican is voting for it, the bill is doomed from the start.
            So it becomes a balancing act for the democrats:

            – If too many democrats voted for impeachment, the press will report on it incessantly. There are important things they want to public to focus on right now: the $1.5 trillion tax cut, Roy Moore, etc.

            – At the same time, they want enough votes so the democratic base don’t feel as if impeachment is totally off the table. I suspect all the votes for impeachment came from very safe seats.

            In other words: a political circus.

  • Rex

    At least 58 people want to be on the right side of history.

    • Nathaniel

      At least 58 people comes from very liberal districts.

  • Chuck in NYC

    Jerusalem is a distraction from Russia, sexual harassment, you name it.

    • The_Wretched

      Yeah, seemed like a checkbox on the list of distractions to run to control the news cycle / force everyone to react bs that he likes to do. I don’t think he counted on the level of pushback the Jerusalem thing is getting. My dear LCC.

  • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

    Why couldn’t the articles of impeachment been things like the emoluments clause, not divesting, endangering the safety of our country by disclosing classified secrets, demonstrating a profound lack of knowledge of foreign affairs making him unfit to lead and obstruction of justice?

    Being a racist asshole doesn’t seem like a compelling enough reason.

    • Tread

      Because those are big words most “real” Americans don’t understand.

  • Jmdintpa

    If you have not decided what you and your family will do as we move to theocratic rule then start thinking. The Dems are not going to stop this train. Its left the station and were not stopping. Full on fascism is coming in the next 7 years with Trump, Bannon, Sessions and their religious minions in control. I think you know what that means for us.

  • Boreal

    OT: When can we expect NALT xtians to get off their asses and do something?

    Minister encourages his flock to slaughter all gays by Christmas

    https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/12/minister-encourages-flock-slaughter-gays-christmas/

    • Karl Dubhe 2

      Well, t’is the reason for the season.

      How can you celebrate the Holy Days if you’re not slaughtering other humans?

      /s

      • Tomcat

        Calling for people to kill other people is NOT considered a crime in our country under trump. What have we done?

        • ETownCanuck

          Free Speech and all that rot….never let common sense ruin an American’s chance to say whatever asinine thing pops into their heads at any given moment.

    • Karl Dubhe 2

      oh, and bad link. you’ve got to cut the Christmas out of the addy to load it.

    • Tomcat

      Yeah, put a period after christmas and then a space.

      • Boreal

        I’m on a mobile device. Learn some fucking manners or be blocked.

        • netxtown

          🙂 there are days I hate my thumbs!

    • ETownCanuck

      Oh THIS idiot again….well, if any of them get the balls to try it, I hope they have their asses handed to them by whatever poor gay they pick on. If they are (heaven forbid) successful, they’ll find out how lame a defence Leviticus 20:13 will be in a court of law.

  • Robin Bailey
  • Tomcat

    Honor and lawfulness in the House is an oxymoron. They only know loyalty to party, not country.

  • whollyfool
    • The_Wretched

      Who would have thought a man with 10+ cases against the EPA (and the EPA against him) would be running with an industry group’s line?

      • whollyfool

        Indeed. :/

  • The_Wretched

    Dems need to look like they have a backbone. Running the articles of impeachment over and over would be exactly that. I’ll also note the ‘low comment count posters’ are on the ‘dems are stupid to take political actions’ side.

    • Michael White

      Like the rethuliCONs and the ACA

      • The_Wretched

        It worked politically. I thought it was stupid on the substance but the politics worked. We have to set aside personal beliefs and go with empirical solutions from time to time.

  • JCF

    The way JMG is going today, awaits “I’m never voting Democratic again!” declarations… {smdh}

    • m_lp_ql_m

      Russian trolls…

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      While I think it was a pointless exercise, you’re right, the fauxtrage is deafening among some.

  • Sean Taylor

    seems like a foolish waste of time

  • John Calendo

    A foolish and pointless stunt.
    The smart hunter waits until his target is in focus.

    • CottonBlimp

      Smart isn’t what wins in politics.

  • Nathaniel

    Do you really want this to happen? In my opinion it could be easier to win in 2020 with him in the WH than with Pence (he would be portrayed by media as savior, “we have normal president again!”)

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Strategically, you’re right. It would be better to win the midterms and then run in 2020 all while forcing the GOP, Pence and Trump to run with all their baggage in tow.

    • Halou

      Easier, for sure. And the damage that can be done in the meantime…

  • Bloozmann

    Who are the 58?

  • OdieDenCO

    premature impeachment

  • Xaca

    HOLD YOUR FIRE GODDAMMIT YOU STUPID MOTHERFUKCERS!

  • margaretpoa

    That’s 364 traitors in the House of Representatives as far as I’m concerned. That being said, it was foolish to let the Republicans get you on record just to make a point. That bill had zero chance of passing this congress.

  • Kevin Andrews

    Not stupid but a clear demonstration of the purchasing power of the bribery enriching each and every one of the Treasonous Corporate Democrats. Pelosi nor Tel Aviv Chuckie will do anything to make waves as their Masters demand of them.
    Traitors, lying cowards and absolutely corrupt purchased Meat-Puppets. There is no representation with these vile geriatric creatures of the slime. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6880dc36b1b68091eb65fea58933cb2ca8f27d8da3ca46ba6da798b56aa9c0c9.png

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Anyone know who the Bernie bot is?

      • Gregory In Seattle

        Because anyone who dares point out the obvious corruption and complicity of the Democratic Party must be a Russian shill, is that it?

        • -M-

          Or maybe it’s the account’s frequently anti-Semitic or violent content.

        • Gianni

          ‘Republicant Party’ Corrected that for you.

        • Jean-Marc in Canada

          No, but in this case if you look at his history, he’s clearly just here for shits and giggles and not much more.

  • Friday’s_cat

    How many of those Democrats voting no on impeachment have released statements calling for Al Franken to quit?
    Come 2018 they will wonder why they are still the minority party.

  • Gregory In Seattle

    Tell me again how Democrats are better than Republicans.

    • Nathaniel

      5 people in SCOTUS will tell you. Not once.

  • CottonBlimp

    I’ve been getting really fucking pissed off at Bernie Bros lately, especially with their latest stunt of trying to “get” Joy Reid for her “homophobic” comments about Charlie Crist being a closet case (eyeroll), which seems virtually indistinguishable from your typical right-wing smear campaign. And yet here Democrats go being absolutely spineless in the face of the worst President in American history, creating the desire for Bernie-type alternatives in the first place.

    49% of Americans support impeachment – 41% oppose. This is an EASY call – you put it up for a vote and then you vote yes. It doesn’t matter if it doesn’t go anywhere. It matters a lot to the people under attack every fucking day from the twitter troll and the GOP that you at least PRETEND like you take this threat seriously enough to fucking go on the record against it. It matters that you give us the impression that you care enough about our rights and our country that you will actually DO something when we give you back Congress, because right now, I sure as fuck don’t get that impression.

  • Halou

    And with it dies any chance of the same vote coming up in future.

  • -M-

    Keep trying. 👍

  • Gianni

    It was a statement. They well know that with a Republicant controlled House and Senate, it won’t go anywhere. Besides, most Dems want to let the investigations, especially Mueller’s, play out. That is where serious evidence for impeachment is likely to show up.