Google To Block YouTube From Amazon Devices

Reuters reports:

A rare public spat in the technology industry escalated on Tuesday when Google said it would block its video streaming application YouTube from two Amazon.com Inc devices and criticized the online retailer for not selling Google hardware.

The feud is the latest in Silicon Valley to put customers in the crossfire of major competitors. Amazon and Google, which is owned by Alphabet Inc, square off in many areas, from cloud computing and online search, to selling voice-controlled gadgets like the Google Home and Amazon Echo Show.

The stakes are high: many in the technology industry expect that interacting with computers by voice will become widespread, and it is unclear if Amazon, Google or another company will dominate the space. Amazon’s suite of voice-controlled devices has outsold Google’s so far, according to a study by research firm eMarketer from earlier this year.

  • Bluto
    • Scott Carpenter

      Oh, it’s better than that. Most of us carry the new mobile wiretap with us, where ever we go. And we kindly recharge it for them every night, so we can be sure to carry it the next day.

    • David Walker

      And the ultimate question in the ’80s: VHS or Beta?

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  • crewman

    These are two companies I normally like, but I have to go with Google on this one. If Amazon is going to put retailers out of business and be such a giant gorilla, it needs to be a neutral platform. Just like Google shouldn’t remove Amazon from search results. (Google does not do this, but Amazon, you sure you want to pick this fight with Google?) Bad call Amazon.

  • Brett Gilbert

    Amazon should sell Apple TV and Google Home products, and they should all carry each other’s content. Done. What is so fucking difficult?

    • Todd20036

      Oh, you and your logic.

    • Gustav2

      Now, now. you think all those little Trumps on the interwebs want to share?

    • Reality.Bites

      Content always sorts itself out in the end, but when it comes to technology for our everyday lives, two competing standards seem to be the most the marketplace will support.

      In phones it’s iPhone and Android.

      In computers it’s PC and Mac.

      In home automation we have three, with Apple set to release its HomePod shortly.

      We won’t have three five years from now and the fight will likely be brutal.

      • Rambie

        Four really if you count them all: Alexa, Cortana, OK Google, and Siri

        Microsoft is small time in the space but they want to be in it more and re-enabling Cortana nearly every update to Windows 10.

        • Reality.Bites

          They wanted to be in phones too, but that didn’t happen. They did make a concerted effort in the tablet/laptop replacement area and have had some success.

          Apple has a big advantage going into any field because of its image as a premium brand. Easy enough to lose it though – remember when everyone who was upper middle class or higher had a Sony TV and an awful lot of people with lower incomes also paid the “Sony tax?”

          They’re also the company with the longest history of integrating hardware and software with a good user interface, but the others are certainly no slouches.

  • Gustav2

    But remember folks, we don’t have to worry about “Net Neutrality” because the little boys in Silicon Valley will take care of it.

  • David L. Caster

    “Amazon’s suite of voice-controlled devices has outsold Google’s so far, according to a study by research firm eMarketer from earlier this year.”

    Apple created the modern smartphone. Now the vast majority of phones run the Android OS.

    • Reality.Bites

      And Apple has to settle for being the only company actually making money selling them.

      LOTS of money.

      • David L. Caster

        With something north of 200% margins what would you expect? Given the general death of class everywhere else it appears to still sell well.

    • Matt G, Rochester

      No, Blackberry and Palm smart phones predate the iPhone by several years. Palm screwed up in that their smart phones didn’t operate like their PDAs, or run the same apps. And they didn’t call Blackberry ‘Crackberry’ for nothing. Apple just put together the ease of Palm’s PDAs with the abilities of the Crackberry.

      • David L. Caster

        True. I really wasn’t trying to be historically accurate, just snark that Google came from way behind to dominate the phone OS market.

  • Michael R
    • Tawreos

      Can’t we just get beyond Thunderdome?

      • Rambie

        Humanities path forward has always been in a circle

      • crewman

        Alright you. We don’t need another hero.

        • Tawreos

          But do you need to know the way home?

          • BJORN RAGNVALDR

            No, just ask Google, map will pop up, follow route…..

          • crewman

            …to Thunderdome?

          • Tawreos

            I want directions to the home of the blonde that was hanging out in the loincloth at the camp with all the kids

          • Guess?

            Jesus?

          • Menergy

            Hahahah”. Made my day!

          • Reality.Bites

            I asked Alexa.

            Question: of those of you with iPhones and Siri, how many of you have the male Australian voice?

            And of those who don’t, what’s wrong with you???

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIocT5N090c

        • Joe in PA

          I will hunt you down crewman…if that song get stuck in my head. ;(

    • Rambie

      Tina looked fierce in that dress! Who’d play the roll today in real life Thunderdome? Certainly not Kellyanne

  • Tawreos

    It is good to see the president is rubbing off on companies. If anyone needs me I will begetting drunk and quietly crying under my desk.

    • Steve

      Is there room for two? I will bring the Black Bush (that is whisky BTW).

      • Tawreos

        I have 4 desks in my office so there is always room for more.

  • AlternativeQuacks

    Siri, how do I get rid of a dead body?

  • Dazzer

    Anyone who gets one of those devices deserves whatever they get.

    It’s one of the most useless pieces of modern technology that I can think of.

    • Hunter M

      I was curious and I looked a these things a few months ago. I still can’t figure out a real use for them.

  • DaddyRay

    They didn’t have to worry about any of this on Star Trek

    • Gustav2

      And we were promised that utopia!!!!!!!!!!

      • DaddyRay

        I am still waiting for my flying car and floating hoverboard

        • Gustav2

          You really need to stop watching cartoons.

          • DaddyRay

            Can I at least get a food replicator, i’m hungry

          • Gustav2

            Senator Gassbag will take away your microwave if you are not careful.

          • Tawreos

            I think you need to be more specific as this could be applied to many senators.

          • Gustav2

            (R)

          • Tawreos

            That was a given =)

          • Hunter M

            Thanks to Senator Gassbag, I won’t be able to afford a microwave.

          • Gustav2
          • Jay George

            I would like some tea but I’m still too sleepy to get up and get it.

          • Tawreos

            For as many times as he ordered that you would think after a while all he would have gotten pissed that it didn’t know what he wanted and all he should have to say is Tea.

          • Gustav2

            Now. now. it depends on the time of day which tea blend we drink.

            We are not animals!

          • Tawreos

            This is why I prefer coffee, it is much less complicated.

          • Reality.Bites

            My first dog could read my body language well enough to know when I was picking up the phone to order food (it was the 80s and 90s) and when I was picking it up to make a social or business call.

            I’m not talking about recognizing words or tone of voice, or even the tones that made up the phone number. This would be as I was reaching for the phone without even picking it up.

            It would be nice to think that by Next Generation time they’d have computers as capable as a Lab/terrier cross. Considering what else they’re relying on them for.

        • djcoastermark

          And all we got was hover-rounds. 🙁

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            Some got those, most got the run-around.

      • Tawreos

        I am not sure that so many people wearing spandex would be called a utopia.

        • DaddyRay

          Have you seen how many people who shouldn’t be wearing spanks go out in public

          • Tawreos

            Well, some of us have pride, self respect and a thought towards the feeling of others. Personally I would never leave the house again if spandex was the only choice.

        • Gustav2

          That is why we will always have football on Sunday…the holy day of the week.

        • Natty Enquirer

          They wore groovy velour in the first pilot.

        • Karl Dubhe 2

          That’s the fantasy, the reality is on display at WalMart.

          Just like in the days of Ancient Egypt. They drew their people hot, but they were as fat as we are IRL.

      • Christopher

        We will never see a Star Trek like environment on our planet.

        Humans are so in love with killing each other to pull their collective heads out of their asses to work for the common good of all.

      • Duh-David

        I was promised a robot maid and a flying car, but I will settle for a pocket supercomputer and internet porn.

        • Reality.Bites

          I do have a robot vacuum. It’s made a big difference in my life, not in terms of labour, but in health.

          I have allergies and asthma. Having my place vacuumed daily, including under beds and other furniture, is something I simply was never going to do.

    • Harveyrabbit
      • DaddyRay

        Ferengi President with the religious right Borg supporting him

      • William

        Louie Gohmert makes sense now.

        • Tawreos

          That is phrase that has never been uttered in all of recorded history. Well done!

        • BobSF_94117

          The existence of Louie Gohmert has been explained. That’s as far as I’ll go.

      • Reality.Bites

        They don’t now.

        Ferengi saw the universe as having “millions of worlds, all with too much of one, and not enough of the other”, with the Great Continuum flowing through them all like a mighty river, from have to want and back again. As such, it was the force that bound the universe together. To get everything you desire in life, you had to have your ship navigate the Continuum with entrepreneural skill and grace. In practice, this meant that material taken from one area had to be replaced or paid for through another means, while avoiding obstacles and pitfalls. Rom noted that the river could be very treacherous.

        The Nagus in particular was responsible for standing “at the bow of the Ferengi ship of state”, navigating the waters of the Great Material Continuum, avoiding the shoals of bankruptcy and seeking the strong winds of prosperity.

    • William

      Janeway’s replicator carried a grudge against her.

  • drtrmiller

    Google should block all its services and integrations from working with Amazon devices. Amazon started this petty mess by banning Google’s hardware from their storefront for strictly competitive reasons, a move which even made it impossible for third-party sellers to offer the device, new or used, on the world’s largest online marketplace.

    I have no doubt Google has been working in good faith to try and seek some kind of compromise with Amazon, but Amazon is the one refusing all advances, resulting in two separate, incompatible ecosystems of hardware and media offerings.

    As an Amazon seller for the past 4 years, I know how infuriating it is to deal with Amazon on even trivial matters, so I can imagine how poorly Amazon must treat anyone they feel poses a threat to even $5 worth of their business.

  • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

    So do these companies understand that people generally live in homes or apartments with more than one room? I should get up and walk downstairs to be in the same room as my device so I can ask Alexa what the weather is? I’m guessing their long term goal will be to have these listening devices in every room like we once had telephone jacks?

    And no – I will never own one.

    • Tawreos

      ah, but they also sell remote attachments so you can be spied..I mean connected in every room.

    • Gustav2

      We are already listening to you in every room in your home. But we need you to think you need to buy a device for every room…

      Becky needs braces.

    • Butch

      I know there’s a certain “get off my lawn” aspect to my response but I also will never own one. I feel like your deranged aunt babbling away over there in the corner when I have to respond to voice commands on the telephone; there is no way I am going to chat with a device like this.

      • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

        Not at all ‘get off my lawn’ at all. You don’t want a large corporation having the ability to listen to everything that goes on in your home. Perfectly reasonable.

        • Jay George

          Yep. One executive order away from turning over data…

      • Jay George

        I go into auto-rage when someone tells me what to do. No way am I gonna take that off a robot voice. 😉

      • Butch

        (And for the record I actually did have an Aunt Emma who would sit in the corner and have conversations that would last for hours with people that no one else could see.)

        • William

          She was a woman ahead of her time.

        • Jay George

          Now people do that all the time. I still do a double take when I see someone walking down the street having an animated conversation with no one because ear phones.

          • Reality.Bites

            Back in Lily Tomlin’s stand-up days one of her one-liners was that they should pair up all those people who talk to themselves so they’d at least look like they’re having a conversation.

          • danolgb

            Is this the Alexa to whom I am speaking?

          • Menergy

            I recall when I first realized there were Bluetooth earpieces that were the cause of so many pedestrians on the street in San Francisco who were talking to themselves/had Tourette’s syndrome (I thought)….LOL

          • William

            It looks even more nuts when they are speaking Polish.

      • Gustav2
      • prixator

        Hehehe. I live in a row house, luckily on one end of the row, but I still share one wall that is pretty thin. I can hear the neighbours quite well (or I could before my hearing deteriorated), so I know that they can hear me, as well, so I avoid talking in most of the house. Fortunately, there are a couple of rooms at the back of the house that don’t share walls.

        Also, it doesn’t seem that long ago that one of the cell phone companies here was running a TV ad in which an older woman is wandering around town pulling a bundle buggy and babbling away to someone unseen. So she looks kinda coo-coo.

        When it’s revealed that she’s on a cell phone, it’s quite amusing. But, nowadays, everyone on the street is on their phone so the people actually talking to the voices in their heads just blend right in.

    • joeyj1220

      But look how cute they’re becoming
      https://www.jibo.com/

    • Natty Enquirer

      Consumers will happily walk around with a wireless microphone. Just like they carry their phones everywhere now.

    • Reality.Bites

      I use home automation primarily for lights (Apple Homekit, which has higher security than the rest) and despite being able to control it through phone, watch and iPad, it would be kind of nice to have something able to hear me more easily.

      But I really don’t get much get the point of it being an audio speaker. I arranged to have whatever audio I want where I want it to be a long time ago. I think most people do.

      • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

        Didn’t use my phone for that, but I do have (low tech by today’s standards) wireless remotes, so when I walk into my family room or bedroom I have three switches to choose from to insure things are lit like a Von Sternberg set. [I’m trying so hard with obscure cultural references. How’d I do?]

        • BJORN RAGNVALDR

          So that you have The Last Command?

          • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

            I have no idea what you’re referencing. I was referring to Marlene Dietrich’s lighting designer.

          • BJORN RAGNVALDR

            “Vienna-born, New York–raised Josef von Sternberg directed some of the most influential, stylish dramas ever to come out of Hollywood. Though best known for his star-making collaborations with Marlene Dietrich, von Sternberg began his career during the final years of the silent era, dazzling audiences and critics with his films’ dark visions and innovative cinematography. The titles in this collection, made on the cusp of the sound age, are three of von Sternberg’s greatest works, gritty evocations of gangster life (Underworld), the Russian Revolution (The Last Command), and working-class desperation (The Docks of New York) made into shadowy movie spectacle. Criterion is proud to present these long unavailable classics of American cinema, each with two musical scores.”

          • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

            OMG – You win. Well done sir.

          • Christopher

            Or is he going for a mafia-esqe Underworld vibe?

        • greenmanTN

          Just don’t overdo the poses. 😉https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e5a92bbe589e42b86f0415dfa7eb77de1260c72505d1163af25711d8057cb277.jpg

          • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

            Honey, I’m a homo, I ALWAYS overdo the poses.

          • Menergy

            “It’s tweww, its tweww”. ( just rewatched Blazing Saddles and howled at the Lily von Shtupp character of Madeline Kahn (RIP). “And I’m sooo tyahhed”

          • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

            Marlene Overpose may be my new drag name.

    • Brian Keith

      We have them in several rooms. They are all interconnected. It works out great, they control home automation functions, music, entertainment, communication, shopping lists, etc. Watching Youtube videos was okay, but it represented a small percentage of use and won’t have an impact.

  • Jay George

    I agree with Google on this. Amazon needs taking down a notch. The company is not untouchable even though they seem to think it is.

    • Certainly it treats its employees as if it’s untouchable.

  • SDG

    Now children… play nice!

  • Christopher

    I have a Roku box, and YouTube doesn’t stream very well through it. Just deleted the channel a few days ago as a matter of fact.

    So, this could be fun to watch them duke it out. We’ll all lose eventually, but at least the show could be entertaining.

    • Jay George

      I have a Roku fire stick and Youtube seems to do alright through it.

      • Christopher

        I have playlists on YouTube to watch music videos, almost every time it’ll play a few videos and then it freezes, and my Roku box reboots. It does that with the MSNBC channel as well. Could be caused by the uploads, but you would think that Google would have fixed that bug a long time ago.

    • Reality.Bites

      But who’ll end up with the streaming rights?

    • RJ Tremor

      I haven’t waded into Amazon or Google’s smart home tech myself. Laptop, desktop, S8+, Gear 2, Roku stick, PS4, 3DS… I think I’m good for now.

  • BearEyes

    VCR. Beta.
    Yawn.

    • Natty Enquirer

      You mean “VHS,” sleepy head.

      • Joe in PA

        I’m still trying to figure out 8-track or cassette. 🙁

        • Karl Dubhe 2

          Weren’t they the same thing?

          • Joe in PA

            hmmm, not sure how to answer…my first thought: NO THEY AREN’T YOU TROGOLDITE. But then I thought…I should be nice, you might be a clueless millennial. 🙂

            (I’m teasing)

        • Tawreos

          My what an elite modernist you are, I still haven’t made up my mind if I prefer banging rocks together or sticks. =)

          • Christopher

            Depends, do I want to listen to rock music, or country music? 😉

          • OdieDenCO

            Rolling stones over Styx any day

        • jmax

          So out of date. I’ve got a Sony MiniDisc player I can sell you for cheap if you want to upgrade 🙂

          • Joe in PA

            A friend was collecting movies on some kind of digital disk in the 80s. It was the same size as an LP. Poor thing…he chose wrong. ;(

          • Karl Dubhe 2

            I remember those. I couldn’t afford one, but a good friend was happy to show off. 🙂

        • Tawreos

          Did you prefer vinyl or wax cylinder?

          • Reality.Bites

            I used to have this roommate. I don’t want to tell you what he did with those wax cylinders.

        • David in Tucson

          CBS’ 33 versus RCA’s 45.

      • BearEyes

        Been so long I mixed up the initials.
        On to the rest of my coffee now.

    • Nintendo vs Sega.
      (yeah, so i’m late…)

  • William

    That explains why I found my toaster and microwave engaged in a battle to the death.

  • Blake Mason

    I predict a hostile takeover…

  • Puck

    Wait until net neutrality is gone, these devices eat up bandwidth so you will have to decide where you use your data.

  • Friday’s_cat

    Far as I know Amazon doesn’t monetize Hate Sites like Google, the choice is obvious if you feel the need for a Big Brother Device.

  • Michael McReavy

    I had a Google Home device for a few hours. It got old very fast. Beyond the very basics, I could find information more quickly on my own. After a short while, I also found the voice for the device to be grating. I guess it’s okay if you want to subscribe to some music service and have a voice activated jukebox. I didn’t. I saw it as a gimmick to sell you more services and more compatible devices. Packed it up and sent it back to the retailer. I assume Amazon’s devices are no better and serve the same commercial purposes.

  • Jon Doh

    We have both and my favorite is Alexa because I can communicate without being censored. She responds to “shut the fuck up” to end an alarm, or “turn on the fucking livingroom light” to turn on the fucking livingroom light. The Google assistant doesn’t respond well to me. I do like the choice of a male voice with the Google though.

  • empidonax_road

    Yes, those net neutrality fears about giant companies blocking each others’ content were definitely overblown.

  • Veylon

    Oh, Google, don’t be an idiot. You’ve practically got a monopoly with YouTube. If you don’t fill the video streaming niche on Amazon’s devices, someone else will and they’ll use it as the jumping off point to compete with you elsewhere.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    We have none of these and surprise, surprise, we survive.

  • Elsewhere1010

    I’m old. If I want to talk to something I’ll talk to my cat, or to those kids on lawn, or possibly those annoying clouds.

    My computer? Not so much…