Breitbart: Urban Elites Don’t Understand That Roy Moore Dating Teenagers Isn’t Against Social Norms

“The media and the Democrats are piling on with allegations about Roy Moore wanting to date teenagers—it’s not illegal and at the time it wasn’t even a violation of social norms because unless you’re an urban elite provincial who doesn’t understand that there are different societies within America, 40 years ago it was not unheard of for a 30-year-old man to look for a much younger wife. And if he was trying to date a 16- or 17-year-old, I’m uncomfortable with that—I’ll admit that—but it’s not illegal. It’s not a violation of social norms.” – Breitbart columnist John Nolte, speaking this morning on their SiriusXM channel.

  • Judas Peckerwood

    “an urban elite provincial”

    What the fuck is that even supposed to mean?

    • Frostbite

      Anyone who drinks at Starbucks I think.

      • Mikey

        in Ontario.

        • Frostbite

          There are coffee shops other than Timmy’s in Ontario? I never noticed.

          • Mikey

            well, in those urban-rural areas 🙂

      • jerry

        Especially if you order the semen lattes.

        • james1200

          They’re hard to swallow.

          • jerry

            Like Mary said, “Just a spoonful of sugar…”

      • Statistics Palin

        People who don’t procreate with siblings.

        • SoCalVet

          or with their children….true story…over and over…

          • Statistics Palin

            Hope you’re doing well, SoCalVet.

          • SoCalVet

            Thank you…Same to you…I avoided reading all news for awhile…I’m just trying to maintain calm while we watch the GOP do its best to destroy our country.

    • Jeffg166

      Elite = Libtards

    • Stephen Oetken

      Someone with all their teeth?

      • Well, crap–there went my urban elite provincial status. Sure didn’t last long…

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      • Todd Allis

        I only have six real ones left, and I don’t accept it. Note that he leaves out the 14-year-old girl.

    • jerry

      Yeah, that’s a little confusing, since “urban elite” and “provincial” have rather opposite definitions.

      • Danieruw

        He’s just trying to make sure he includes EVERYONE who doesn’t think adult men “dating” teenagers is part of the social norm.

    • james1200

      Urban Elite Provincial = A New York Jew. Who’s probably a little gay.

      • Oscarlating Wildely

        Well to do suburbanites and Jewish intellectuals.
        Which if you think about it is mostly homosexuals.

        • David Walker

          One of the great opening numbers for any awards show ever.

      • DesertSun59

        The irony here is that this AL belief system is directly out of the Bronze Age. You know, when tribal Jews ran that little tiny strip of the Middle East.

    • Karl Dubhe 2

      Someone who isn’t “them”, errr “us” from their pov…

    • Todd20036

      Anyone who is educated, values women’s rights, thinks different orientations/races/religious beliefs are acceptable.

      In other words, anyone who isn’t a Nazi.

      • DesertSun59

        Or not someone addicted to Bronze Age Middle Eastern religious mythology.

    • Urban elite just means black, gay, and/or Jewish.

    • Herald

      Someone who doesn’t fuck kids?

    • Tawreos

      Three dog whistles in a row.

    • JerryRich

      Someone who reads for pleasure and information.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Its an oxy-moran…..

      • Henry Auvil

        John Nolte is an oxy-moron.

        • Boss Dave

          No, he’s a maxi-moron. And likely on Oxy too, like his hero Rusty Limpblob.

    • Mrs. Councillor Nugent

      Is it like French Provincial?

      • Stephen Elliot Phillips

        Yes like hollywood elite regency

    • Henry Auvil

      Living in the “province” of the Upper West Side of Manhattan can warp your perception of under-aged cousin fucking.

    • Rambie

      Someone who’s sister isn’t their cousin

      • cleos_mom

        Put another way: someone whose bloodlines aren’t peeyure.

    • Acronym Jim

      I’m pretty sure he meant it in this context:


      having or showing the manners, viewpoints, etc., considered characteristic of unsophisticated inhabitants of a province; rustic; narrow or illiberal; parochial:

      a provincial point of view.

      I wonder if it hurts to be so cognitively dissonant?

    • greenmanTN


      • JCF

        “Bernie Bernstein calling!”

    • Clive Johnson

      Nolte has no idea. He thinks he’s being a clever contrarian but in fact he’s merely confused.

    • Jay Silversmith

      anyone who’s cousin isn’t their mother, sister, aunt or date for the evening.

    • Steve Heath

      An Uepie……duh

    • cleos_mom

      Anyone who can read.

    • Librarykid

      It does seem to be a self contradictory term, but then the guy who uttered it looks sorta inbred.

  • Do Something Nice

    Yeah, go back to your wife/cousin, incest man.

  • Todd

    Yes, choosing to not date children or my pets is so “urban elite”.

  • Pollos Hermanos

    Breitbart’s new slogan:

    “Normalizing kid fucking when it benefits our guy”

  • Frostbite

    Two consenting male adults – disgusting. We want to regulate and outlaw your relationship.
    One adult male and underage female – stay out of my business!

    Got it…

  • How can you be both elite and provincial at the same time?

    • BearEyes

      Or urban?

    • Miji

      Stop. He got a gold star for using all the words of the day from his GED night course. Don’t try to ruin that for him.

  • M Jackson

    After Obegerfell wasn’t he supposed to start marrying his dog?

  • Jeffg166

    Somehow I get the feeling he’s still “dating” them.

  • Kelly Lape

    If you’re “uncomfortable” with that, then it isn’t the social norm… either that or you ain’t normal.

  • Karl Dubhe 2

    Milo sure must be pissed about their double standard…

    • Kelly Lape

      ^^^^ This ^^^^

    • HanyBaal

      The right can no longer call Prophet Mohammad a Pedo for marrying Aisha as a minor…. goose/gander….
      who am I kidding, double standards are the Modus Operandi of fascists (see the aforementioned Mo)

      • Karl Dubhe 2

        If it weren’t for double standards, they’d have none at all…

  • pj

    i dont need breitbart trash explaining anything to me.

    • Lumpy Gaga


  • james1200

    I’m not sure how I feel about the new ads the Alabama GOP is running for Moore.,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/jxvmjybzsjf7zjlyzzip.gif

    • Halou

      I thought they were threatening to oust him from the party if he won. But they’re paying for his ads?

    • bkmn

      Roy only goes for the young WHITE girls.

      • james1200

        All the racist old farts and white nationalist types seem to love Asian women, though. They may think them inferior but they sure want to fuck them.

        • olandp

          That is because the white men think that Asian women will be submissive. They don’t realize that many Asian women who want an American husband so they can be liberated.

      • JCF

        That we KNOW of. I still there may have been black girls who didn’t survive the encounter.

    • Oscarlating Wildely
  • Gustav2

    No “Historic infamy?” Does that excuse the Clintons and you can’t bring up that shit anymore?

  • Tawreos

    I am uncomfortable with a 30 year old man trying to date teenagers, but he is a white republican so I guess I can swallow those feeling and go ahead and put the party ahead of the country

  • Rex

    Child sexual abuse, was, is and should always be illegal.
    What is wrong with these people?

  • fkevin

    Roy Moore was age 30 in 1977, not 1937 or 1907 or 1847.

  • Ham

    Cool John, so I can fuck your son. Got it.

  • Halou

    “And if he was trying to date a 16- or 17-year-old….

    And again BrainFart needs to be told that Roy Moore wasn’t looking for a 16 or a 17 year old wife, he was looking to stick his mini-me inside multiple 14 year old girls.
    Not one. Several. And not for the sake of entering into a committed long-term relationship either.

  • OdieDenCO

    please explain, if it wasn’t against social norms to “date” girls 1/2 your age, why royboy was exiled from the mall? fail!

    • KCMC

      and HS football games.

    • Tawreos

      That was all a big misunderstanding, Roy was just there to stop an interracial gay couple from adopting some babies and aborting others and he accidentally tried to put his penis in a 16 year old. It happens all the time.

  • j.martindale

    You all just don’t understand that rationalizing away evil is part of the Republican platform.

  • Coprolite

    “Roy Moore wanting to date teenagers—it’s not illegal and at the time it wasn’t even a violation of social norms.”
    Still, that doesn’t make it right.

    There was a time when social norms allowed you to stone a person to death. Still that doesn’t make it ok to do.

    Today some societies make it ok to kill your daughter for bringing dishonor to your family, that doesn’t make it ok.

  • Slippy_World
    • ColdCountry

      I LIKE that!

  • lymis

    Not a one of the women who’s come forward to expose him has said that what was going on was consensual from their side of things.

    Whether or not an older man dating a woman that age with her consent and approval (and the approval of her parents) was a social norm at the time, skeeving on unwilling young women was most definitely not.

    And if it was the social norm, why was he banned from the mall?

    Besides, I think this clown has his time frames wrong. What he’s been saying may well have been true in the rural south of the 1920’s or even 1940’s, but 40 years ago was 1977, and no, it was most definitely not the “norm” of the time.

    • ColdCountry

      “And if it was the social norm, why was he banned from the mall?”

      BINGO! We have a winner!

      • Paul Ohbehr L

        Exactly. These were Alabamans banning his ass from the mall. Not some elitists from either coast or just from big cities. Moore was banned by fellow Alabamans concerned about their own kids in Alabama in 1977. I suppose Evangelical Christian Alabama Republican norms have changed since 1977 … so that is telling in itself. That they would now vote for a known sexual abuser of children.

    • Goodboy

      Remember this is for the Brietbart crowd. Something making sense is not required.

  • Dave B

    Some men in the south fuck pigs and sheep. It’s normal, right?

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Rural traditions should not be judged !

      • B Snow

        Heritage, not Hate.

        • Paul Ohbehr L

          Snort. (Human sound I made; not a sheep sound). Lol.

    • Boreal
      • Karl Dubhe 2

        If I survive until next Halloween, that’ll be what I wear. 😀

        • Boreal

          If it has a cup holder for my bourbon I might do the same.

      • Goodboy

        If that were a real sheep I’d be impressed.

  • Hmm, as an American Indian, I think this is the first time I’ve been called an urban elite provincial. I wonder if this is how the Deplorables felt when Hillary named them?

  • JWC

    Whoever you are may we all smoke whatever it is you smoke that makes you think that way Let’s go for mutual understanding

  • Lazycrockett

    Lord if this keeps up fucking children is gonna be hip.

    • Boreal

      It already is for repigs.

  • Gerry Fisher

    What was the age of consent in Alabama in the 70s? I doubt it was 14. (For what it’s worth, I was 14 in 1975. None of my classmates in a lower-middle-class part of Connecticut were dating 30+ year-olds.)

    • Mike_in_the_Tundra

      Wish I could say that. In North Carolina, one of my 14 year old female classmates was dating a 35 year old man. Her parents thought it was a great match. What the fuck did they talk about? She would get lost in conversations of other 14 year olds. I guess talking wasn’t high on their list of things to do. I had to get out of that place.

    • 16yo.

  • Kevin Andrews

    There is no end to the mental masturbation of the Evangelicals and their mindless Trumpanzees. What price on your daughter’s head to sell her into slavery?

  • gaycuckhubby

    I think he’s partly right, as long as it’s consensual there’s nothing illegal about a 40 year old having sex with a 16 or 17 year old.

    Also, a couple if years ago a lot of gay guys would of said the same thing…

    But I am more than happy to have the right wing conservative rural base being the party of imtegenerational sex

    • clay

      The girl he assaulted was 14.

      • gaycuckhubby

        Absolutely and that is of course illegal. But the douchebag from Breitbart was specifically talking about girls over the age of consent

  • Boreal
    • Ragnar Lothbrok


    • jerry

      Like Moore, those jeans can be found in the “Junior Miss” section at Sears.

  • bkmn

    The Mercers and Bannon must be into the youngens

  • barrykyle415

    I’m wondering where this guy was when the non-urban elite provincials were completely unable to understand our social norms regarding gay marriage.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    So what’s a Gay Rural Elite supposed to make of this ??

    • Boreal

      That republicans are fucking pedophiles.

  • Smokey

    Maybe NAMBLA should take advantage of this issue, reorganize, and become part of the GOP big tent. /s

    • Tread

      They already are.

      • Goodboy

        Yeah, who do ya think it staffing it’s website.

      • Since at least Dennis Hastert. You really think the GOP leadership didn’t vet him before making him speaker? And didn’t find multiple allegations of rape?

        It’s like someone has finally lifted the mattress and exposed all the bedbugs. Not a single industry is going to be unaffected before this is over. And cry me a fucking river all the old perverts who got away with it for 30-40 years and use “it was so long ago” as an excuse. The coverup allowed them to go this long without any consequences. Well karma is a bitch and so am I.

  • joe ho

    Breitbart’s almost as full of shit as the Young Turks.

    “In 1957, Rev. Alvin C. Horn, of Talladega, AL, resigned as Grand Dragon of the KKK in Alabama because he, being 45, married 15 yr. old Barbara Richardson of Trenton, GA. He lied and said she was 20. The KLAN IN 1957 thought that was wrong (from Montgomery Advertiser, 1961).”

    • GayOldLady

      It wasn’t uncommon for a 16-17 year old girl to date a young man in his early 20’s, but not a 32 year old man. My mom tried to fix me up with a friends nephew. I think he was 24-25, I was about 16 and I thought he was ancient. I went on one date with him to appease my mother and then tossed him aside.

      He called me for months and I would make excuses as to why I couldn’t go out with him. Finally he gave up.

    • LOL. I’m no TYT fan, but Breitbart is exponentially worse.

  • Moebym of the Returners

    Maybe it’s because I’ve been watching too many documentaries about serial killers lately, but Breitbartians strike me as either being serial killers or being at high risk of becoming serial killers.

    • Tawreos

      As long as they vote republican and buy all of the shit they spew, they will be pro serial killer as well.

  • GayOldLady

    What if Moore, at 32 years old, had been trying to date a 16 year old boy or had sexually groped a 14 year old boy? How would these hypocritical christos feel about that?

    • Boreal

      He’s a republican so they are ok with that. Now if he was a democrat………………….

      • Paul Ohbehr L

        (Well, he was a racist Dixiecrat at one time in the 1960s era before moving to the Republican side aka Nixon side). Roy Moore is way worse than a Democrat of the far Upper Midwest, coastal western, northeastern, sane, tolerant, liberal, progressive movement actual 1960s type of Democrats, if someone tries to tell you that Roy Moore was a Democrat in the past, tell them B.S. He was just a racist Dixiecrat. Racist to the core.

    • Smokey

      He’d have to have a “come to Jesus” moment and publicly repent rather than just stonewall like he’s been doing.

  • tim870

    I don’t know where this dumbass hick came from, but I lived in rural Louisiana in the 70s and it wasn’t normal to “date” teenagers if you were an adult.

  • bkmn

    Amazing that the right in Bama can go from having purity balls for their daughters to voting for Roy Moore.

    • tim870

      Until now I never really understood how something like Honey Boo Boo could be allowed to happen. Now it makes perfect sense.

    • Um, those ‘purity balls’ are all about fathers treating their daughters like chattel property and assigning a value to them being virgins upon being given away to another man’s ownership, whereas no such ‘purity’ demand is made upon any male ever.

      • In other words, this isn’t hypocrisy or irony. It’s just another logical extension of the belief that girls are property.

      • Tread

        They also want to fuck girls their age, so purity balls allow them to peruse the goods.

    • Boreal

      Purity ball just means only daddy has teabagged her. Just as jeezi commands.

    • jerry

      “Purity” and “balls” go together just like “urban” and “provincial”.

    • Goodboy
    • Paul Ohbehr L

      Plus some of those so called “pure” daughters will have oral and anal sex with their boyfriends. It doesn’t count if it’s not genital on genital sex.

  • Christopher

    I’m just gonna judge this guy by his photo.

    Absolutely unfuckable!

    He looks like a corpse that was left in the freezer too long.

    • Boreal

      They all do and no sane woman wants them, that’s why they like the younguns.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      ooh. Maybe it IS the Las Vegas shooter!!

    • Mike C

      And they’re always dressed like a Walmart shift manager.

    • Lloyd

      My urge to straighten those crooked pictures is overwhelming.

  • Misogyny and patriarchy, hand-in-hand. Only reason a 30+ year old man dates or marries a girl half his age: He doesn’t want an equal partner. He wants a domestic servant & sex toy he can dominate and control, and it’s far easier to do this when you take a child and ensure she’ll have no options, no future if she ever decides to leave.

    • Michael White

      don’t forget religion keeps women submissive, especially in the red states

    • Christopher

      Daddy Duck Fucker says:

      ““They got to where they’re getting hard to find, mainly because these boys are waiting ‘til they get to be about 20 years old before they marry ‘em,” Robertson said. “Look, you wait ‘til they get to be 20 years old the only picking that’s going to take place is your pocket. You got to marry these girls when they are about 15 or 16. They’ll pick your ducks.””

      • JCF

        “They’ll pick your ducks.”

        Translation: “Men, it’s all about your sexual satisfaction—and her babies!”

        • cleos_mom

          The metaphor suggests a little avian bestiality on the side.

      • Paul Ohbehr L

        I hate to upvote it. I feel so ewww. Yet you made a great point with the quote.

    • cleos_mom

      Sometimes men like that get what they deserve when they try to “order” a bride from a Traditional Culture Strong On Family. Online matchmaking of that kind has more scams than your average state fair midway, with far less innocent marks. The reason most often given in Trumpland is that American women “don’t know how to treat their men”. Ironically, they sometimes get taken to the cleaners by people who know exactly how to treat them.

  • boobert

    Aren’t there laws for statutory rape for having sex with a minor? Even Alabama considers under 18 a minor.

    • 16 is the age of consent in AL. (Should be higher…) Seems most of the time, Roy tried to keep his predation to 16 and up. (That we know of.) Hence for example his sexually assaulting that one girl shortly after she turned 16.

      Same deal with the 15yo who’d later become his wife: He left her be for several years, even though he apparently attended her dance recital much earlier.

    • Boreal

      Not if she is your sister or daughter.

  • -M-

    Oh? How about the sexual harassment, sexual assault, attempted rape, child molestation and plying minors with alcohol?

    • boatboy_srq

      That’s all just liebrulsoshulist smear. Just Delegate Shortey.


  • Michael White

    Because the right wing all perv on teenage girls. That is why there are laws.

  • HomerTh

    I grew up in rural Michigan in the 1970s. The teenagers were busy fucking each other, often with their parents approval, since when the girls got pregnant they were forced to marry the boy and then the couple was expected to stay in the community (parents were terrified their kids would go off to the big city). These teenagers were not having sex with ancient men in their 30s, that did not happen.

  • urban & provincial are NOT the same thing. Either you live in an urban area, or you hale from the provinces.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    looks like the dead Las Vegas shooter to me.


  • andrew

    This Breitbart apologist for Moore is trying to make us think that the 1980s, in Alabama, were frontier days. I doubt that most parents of 14 year old girls and teen aged girls in general, back in the “old days,” would have approved of a man in his 30s stalking their daughters. I think that many of those Alabama dads would have kicked Roy’s ass if he bothered their daughters.

    • boatboy_srq

      That would certainly explain Moore’s face: one too many encounters with outraged parents.

    • Acronym Jim

      He seems to think Fast Times at Ridgemont High was a documentary. Not only that, he also completely missed the part where the older men macking on the younger girls was seen as skeevy.

  • AtticusP

    Fuck your “social norms”.

    It’s against the law.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Um, Breitbart is based in Los Angeles. Nolte isn’t exactly reporting from podunk.

    So is he throwing the red-state-meat provincial elite label while partaking of provincial elitism but flipped to criticize provincial elites which he regards as undesirable and um…..bossy?

    Gee, it’s almost like Breitbart is a lazy formulaic propaganda mill.

    • Tread

      Their assessment of social dating norms for rural areas is exactly like urban elites think they are because Breitbarters themselves are urban elites. That’s the biggest scam they’ve perpetrated, making rural Americans think they’re just like them.

  • JerryRich

    “Keisha Lance Bottoms for Mayor of Atlanta”.

    It took me a couple of minutes to realize this was a political endorsement.

    • Tawreos

      Are we sure that Keisha Lance is not a drag queen?

    • JCF

      “Lance Bottoms”? Sounds painful!

    • cleos_mom

      Consider the comic possibilities if Atlanta’s Hartsfield-Jackson Airport were renamed “Bottoms Airport” some time in the future.

  • popebuck1

    The ’80s in Alabama were a simpler time. When the matchmaker came around Pa would come in from pushing the plow, Ma would leave her butter churn, and they would discuss betrothing little Anna Mae (age 12) to the prosperous local district attorney. What an advantageous match, such an honor for a poor family of sharecroppers!

    • Acronym Jim

      At least she didn’t marry the poor tailor like her older sister did, that slut!

    • Friday

      Especially when said families had cases before Moore’s court. Hrm.

  • RossPDX

    40 years ago, you could tell by the way Moore used his walk he was a little girl’s man: no time to talk.

  • BateWorld/BateShop

    According to that argument than it was ok for priests to molest boys because it was the social norm…as all all forms of sexual harassment by men.

  • ikahana

    It didn’t seem to be the norm at the shopping mall when they banned him.

    Also, I believe the cultural norm has been to ask before grabbing.

  • R W C


  • Sean

    Nope. pervert.

  • Henry Auvil

    I thought all pedophiles were gay. And all gays were pedophiles. Call me confuzed.

    • The_Wretched

      It’s all projection with them – and accusing everyone else of their acts so they can ‘both sides’ every issue.

  • Stephen Elliot Phillips

    So there IS a hetero equivalent of NAMBLA its called ALGOP (alabama gop)

    • Dom Saunders

      Just call it the South and save some letters.

  • Oscarlating Wildely

    Proudly an urban elite. Okay, I’m a snob. I own it. Fuck it: I relish in it. And I like my backward ass hicks far, far away from me. And my Constitution. And my government. And my laws, And my art, And my education. And from my or anyone’s children.

  • BobSF_94117

    urban elite provincial

    Somewhere an editor slit his throat in despair today…

  • edrex

    it’s true. only uneducated, racist, redneck, xtianists seem to know that.

  • TexasBoy

    Roy Moore Dating Teenagers Isn’t Against Social Norms….in undereducated, inbred, rural areas of the South, or if you’re a hillbilly.

    Fixed it.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    WOW…I just…nope…what?…um…

    Yeah, I got nothin’

  • ColoMtnWoman

    Actually a 14-year old IS illegal. And the scumbags at Breitbart trying to normalize it is the funniest thing I’ve heard today.

  • coram nobis

    What does Alabama criminal law have to say about that?

    • Jamie_Johnson

      Oh, now laws apply to Roy Moore? Sure…

  • Galvestonian

    All Righteeee then … how about a late 20’s dude picking up your 14 – 15 or 16 year old son for a ‘date’ – how do you feel about that ??? Not a violation of heterosexual social norms ? …or is it just misunderstanding the factoid regarding different societies within America ??? It’s not unheard of for some Republican Senators to look for a much younger boy is it ????

  • JoyZeeBoy

    For those who have forgotten, here’s rocker Jerry Lee Lewis and HIS 13 year old cousin (and bride) Myra Williams at the time of their wedding in 1958.

    • Mike in Houston

      He was 23 at the time — still got the ick factor going, especially since she was his first cousin, once removed — and his career plummeted as a result of the scandal… so yeah, even in the late 50’s in bumfuckistan, people were not buying it.

      • Dom Saunders

        She doesn’t even look remotely LIKE an adult. How could anyone be okay with that? Just ew.

  • HZ81

    Urban Elites? Sounds like a city underwear store for the browns, yellows and tan folks.

  • The_Wretched

    The Catholic Church is probably torn. On one hand, they must be rejoicing about the push back against age of consent limits. On the other, they must be upset that they didn’t think that they could get away with that line of arguments.

  • ETownCanuck

    Is it really considered a “social norm” if only Redneckistan is doing it?

  • Blackfork

    So why was he banned from the public mall where he preyed on young girls? What a load of horseshit.

  • Vicious Liberal

    “And if he was trying to date a 16- or 17-year-old…”

    Roy Moore RAPED A 14-YEAR OLD!

  • boatboy_srq

    I never want to hear Breitbart diss NAMBLA for age-of-consent issues again after this.

    Granted, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to diss NAMBLA. But Breitbart just forfeited their “think of THE CHILDREN!!11!1!” card with this little stunt.

    • Mike in NC

      Does NAMBLA still exist?

      • boatboy_srq

        I never paid attention to that gaggle of idiots, so I can’t say, but if they’re more functional than ACORN these days I would be surprised. Naturally, though, to the Reichwing they are indestructible and perpetual, so still worthy of opposition.

  • Lindoro Almaviva

    Breitbart: Urban Elites Don’t Understand That Roy Moore Dating Teenagers Isn’t Against Social Norms… Until it happens to their daughters or sisters, then all of a sudden it is a problem. I don’t know why

    • Mike in Houston

      Until a black guy asks out their daughters or sisters, then all of a sudden it is a problem. I don’t know why

  • Bullshit. I’m from a not large town (52,000 people at the time) and I graduated from high school in 1981 which is before these alleged events took place. I knew of not one single classmate dating a guy in his 30s. A couple dated someone already out of high school but even that was considered kind of skeevy. So this is bullshit. This was certainly not the norm in the US in the 30s. This is total and complete bullshit and the only people who would claim otherwise are pervs themselves.

  • witch

    40 years ago it was ok to beat said. Wife until bloody

    • leastyebejudged

      No, it was not.

  • FelineMama

    Also, too, incest was A-OK. Cue ‘Deliverance’ theme.

  • Clive Johnson

    Nolte and his gang are compulsively dishonest. 14, you lying fucks, 14!

    “Moore didn’t know she wasn’t 14. So, it’s okay.”

    That makes it just as bad. What ‘Moore didn’t know’ actually means is that he didn’t care to know. He wasn’t asking, even though any girl at 14 is automatically suspiciously young looking.

    They lack the maturity to deal with their cognitive dissonance, so they invent the fiction that 16 was the age in question.

  • Clive Johnson

    You urban elitists just doan unnerstan what real life is like in Alabama.

  • clay

    “Social Norms”? Dude, this isn’t a pornography accusation; community standards, except those written into the state law, are irrelevant.

  • LarryChemEngr

    “Looking for a much younger wife” is not what everyone is talking about here, dickhead. He was looking to have sexual escapades with teenagers, without mommy and daddy’s knowledge.

  • JamieL

    I live in one of the largest cities in the nation but I grew up in nowhere Georgia close to nothing at all. I speak for the people of the south from back in the day when I say all four of my big brothers would have kicked the ass of any man over one year older than me that tried to “date” me when I was a 13-18 year old teen. Then when my daddy got home on a Friday evening after working construction out of town all week, he would have selected one of his rifles or pistols and the man would have never been heard from again because he would have been pig food. Not that I ever condone that sort of thing. These men just like to diddle teens. It’s gross and it was not the norm of the rural south in my experience.

  • Steverino

    Ideological tribalism. Pure and simple.

    • Also re-fighting the Civil War and Reconstruction.

  • greenmanTN

    I know that “provincial” is usually intended to mean those who are from rural areas with narrow POVs, “rubes” basically, but IMO people from large cities who rarely or never leave them CAN be quite provincial in their own way. I spent quite a bit of time in Manhattan in my 20s and early 30s and in my experience having that as your only frame of reference can be equally limiting.

    I don’t agree with what this guy is saying about Moore, just sort of agreeing with his use of the word “provincial” in this context.

    • AJ Drew

      I can see that. However, “provincial” along with “bourgeoisie” and “hoi polloi” all frequently have their actual meaning inverted, usually unintentionally. It’s curious, and annoying.

    • leastyebejudged

      Urban people are absolute experts at pissy provincialism.

      I’m not seeing how somebody that’s never leaves SF is really any better than someone that lives in Bumfuck, Egypt. They’re both dueling fucktards.

  • CottonBlimp

    So, Roy Moore molesting children was forgivable because the culture at the time permitted it?

    Hey, remember when all these Christer shitheads used to accuse us liberals of being cultural relativists?

  • DesertSun59

    Actually urban ‘elites’ live in the modern world. The rest of these hicks live in a Bronze Age fantasy world.

  • Friday

    So, it’s normal for an ADA prosecuting cases against family members to ‘ask nicely’ to poach their underage daughters? Maybe for Fundies. But you don’t have to be an ‘urban elite’ to call that both skeevy and abuse of power.

  • Dom Saunders

    So apparently pedophilia is okay based on where you’re from, especially if said people in those areas tend to have a collective IQ in the single digits. Okay.

  • Mike

    Mouth-breathing yahoos don’t understand that Roy Moore dating minors is most definitely against social norms.

  • Gregory In Seattle

    So… pedophilia is normal for rural conservatives?

  • JCF

    Give me a break: a 30+ year old looking to date sub-18 year olds was CREEPY in every state in the union by the mid-to-late 1970s.

  • DaveMiller135

    “40 years ago it was not unheard of for a
    30-year-old man to look for a much younger wife. And if he was trying to
    date a 16- or 17-year-old, I’m uncomfortable with that—I’ll admit
    that—but it’s not illegal. It’s not a violation of social norms.”

    No. It is a violation of social norms in the US. Just because you can find a cuzzin-luvvin corner of the crick, doesn’t remake all the social norms of an entire nation.

  • leastyebejudged

    Well, he’s not wrong.

    The South IS 50 years behind socially.

    Laws only change just so much, you need the social will to bring about meaningful change.

    And those Baptists down there will never change, they’re comfortable in their incest.

  • cleos_mom

    40 years ago it was not unheard of for a 30-year-old man to look for a much younger wife.

    Add a half-decade or two and the term is “trophy wife.” Men sometimes get taken to the cleaners that way via scammers, especially if they get a ‘mail order bride’ from a Traditional Culture, Strong On Family. Especially men with incomes under 7 figures.

    elder “skirt chaser” to Jennifer Marlowe: “I’m a lot younger than I look!

    JM: “Are you any richer than you look?”

  • There’s no point trying to engage with this. they are justifying, if not exactly paedophilila, then definitely some sort of exploitation, or bride-sale. This is the sort of thing they have been screamingly condemning in Sharia societies like Sudan and Chad for the last decade but when someone does it here in the USA and he’s white, it’s suddenly okay.

  • Esther Clark

    This is hilarious. The republicans have been telling us for years that we urban elites have no morals.Now this guy kind of confirms that its the rural that are lacking morals. We in the cities don’t approve of grown men dating underage teenagers and that somehow makes us suspect??

  • Esther Clark

    Yes we coastal urban elites have better social norms and are more moral than the crackers in the fly over states. Thanks for spreading the word.

  • wmforr

    Okay, now those who object to child molesters are “urban elites”, and those who think of them as a “social norm” are good Christians? Why didn’t the Catholic church think of that defense?

  • StudioTodd

    That is a filthy, disgusting LIE!!!

    I am old enough to remember what social norms were 40 years ago. I grew up in a very small town in Texas at that time, and I can tell you that a 30-something-year-old man pursuing a relationship with a teenage girl would have been a HUGE scandal, and the guy would probably have been in danger of some serious bodily harm from the family of the girl in question. He could at least expect to get a visit from a deputy from the sheriffs department to explain VERY UP CLOSE AND CLEARLY why his pursuit of a teenage girl was a poor choice.

    This scenario actually played out in my hometown during this time period. The 30-something-year-old guy wisely left town very quickly. It was absolutely NOT something that was acceptable and was social suicide for anyone with more than 3 teeth in their head.

    I don’t know how deeply into the recesses of their bowels these people are having to reach to come up with this sort of crap, but it is just not true. It was the 1970s, not the 1770s.