Trump Defends Michael Flynn’s “Lawful” Actions

CBS News reports:

President Trump spoke publicly Saturday morning for the first time since his former national security adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI on Friday.

“What has been shown is no collusion, no collusion,” Mr. Trump said, responding to a reporter’s question about whether the Flynn plea worries him before pivoting to a major tax bill the Senate passed just before 2 a.m. Saturday.

“We’ll see what happens,” added the president, who is on his way to New York for a series of fundraisers. Shortly after, the president tweeted that he fired Flynn because he lied to the vice president.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Halou

      And nothing of note is done about the fact.

      • Chucktech

        Not with this traitorous Congress…

    • Leo

      !!!!!!!^^^^

    • Gustav2

      Trump and Pence knew because they told Flynn to lie?

      • Sam_Handwich

        no, Obama made Flynn lie, then the deep state lizard people sealed the deal. try to keep up 😀

        • UrsusArctos 🐻

          I “heard” Flynn got his instructions from Obama via Hillary in a series of “missing” emails. /snark
          I HATE it that snark will probably be presented as “facts” by some idiots.

          • Paula

            I heard it was secretly encoded in the toppings combinations on the Comet Ping Pong pizzas.

          • Stephen Elliot Phillips

            Theres a dead fetus or two in this also. I just know it. Aborted by a sex slave in that pizza restaurants basement!
            /S/

          • bzrd

            Pizza Rat orchestrated the dismemberment

          • canoebum

            If it is a plain pizza, the links to the emails are printed on the underside of the little plastic piece that holds the lid off the cheese.

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          • Chicago joe

            Spelled out in baby teeth on those pizzas……

          • netxtown

            n-n-no….the instructions were coded in a pizza….

        • Stogiebear

          The next edition of “The Gay Agenda” will contain a chapter on how best to work with the lizard people so that we can bring the deep state to the surface once and for all. We should have done this years ago — it’s staggering how many of those deep state lizard people are LGBT.

    • RoFaWh

      Trump’s apparent inability to foresee the consequences of his own actions is, shall we say, “truly remarkable”.

      He will become a textbook example of a number of psychological aberrations.

      • Bluto
        • Christopher

          Too bad “shit for brains” has already been coined.

          • Sporkfighter

            We could rename shit after him.

            “Hey, trump-for-brains!”
            “What a load of fucking bull-trump.”
            “Who left their trump all over the place?”

          • netxtown

            looks like dog trump. don’t step in it.

          • Richard, another Canuck
          • Just like Dan Savage and Sanatorium.

          • JCF

            Just “santorum”.

          • As you can undoubtedly tell, someone can’t spell….sigh. After several attempts I gave up. Even the google machine let me down.

          • Robincho

            With its proximity to “dump” and “rump”, you’d think that the owners of this recently-coined surname would be rather less fond of it than they are…

          • eddie beskeddie

            when the trump hits the fan?

        • coram nobis

          There is Megalomania, but I believe that monster was last seen in a Toho Films production wrecking Tokyo.

          • Steverino

            Isn’t she the First Lady?

        • Galvestonian

          One can hope that when Muller goes public with some really ‘juicy’ and damning details specifically about TRUMP – details that the President cannot twist, misrepresent, distort, fabricate or otherwise claim is a misstatement, falsehood or fake news. Well, when that singular event happens I hope and pray that ol’ Trumpizzi goes absolutely bonkers, fireworks crazy, gibbers like a howler monkey and just has a fantastic and extremely colorful breakdown that is taped in all its glory and madness. I just want to watch that over and over ’till I wear out the recording.

        • Rick Zajac

          I almost trumped my pants.

        • Stogiebear
          • coram nobis

            I thought the hankie code for Donald was yellow?

            PETER MARSHALL: What can bring tears to a monkey’s eyes?
            PAUL LYNDE: (after some thought) Learning that Tarzan swings both ways.
            — “Hollywood Squares”

        • JackFknTwist

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/650bd1d4d5ccdd0a4ce45a9bf3f23e40c5cf3a3fb7f1430bfbcc766507576852.jpg

          TrumpMayTwitterSpatGate:
          Irish Times 1st Dec 2017-

          Flunkey to Theresa May :
          “If the President’s Visit is still on, the Heraldry people have prepared his own Coat of Arms.”

        • JT

          You’ve already got a name.

        • Fortunately he is the only known manifestation of said disease.

        • Robincho

          Delirium trumpens…

      • DesertSun59

        Sadly, they will have to put tens of millions of his cult supporters in that same category.

      • Chicago joe

        Aberration, like PolPot or Hitler….but not a disease.
        Aberants should be executed if dangerous, while disease may create pity and thus mercy.

    • another_steve

      That Trump obstructed justice is a given now. No reputable observer is disputing that these days.

      Flynn’s cooperation with the Mueller investigation will establish Trump’s personal collusion with the Russians to affect the election outcome.

      Then we’ll be rid of the fucker.

      • Chucktech

        Rid of the fucker? You mean Trump?? And just how is that going to happen? Just whom do you think will rid us of Donald Trump?

        • another_steve

          If evidence of Trump’s personal role in the collusion is incontrovertible (which it will in fact be proven to be, thanks to Flynn), Trump will be impeached and removed from office.

          No Republican in her or his right mind would not vote to get rid of him.

          • zhera

            “No Republican in her or his right mind”

            You getting snarky, Steve?

          • another_steve

            Lol.

            Has to do with their political survival. “Right or wrong” – for the Republican congressional scum buckets – has nothing to do with it.

          • David L. Caster

            Which just means they will all stick together.

          • Chucktech

            We’ll just about that, won’t we? I’m not all that sanguine…

          • David L. Caster

            Neither am I.

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            The GOP has shown that they don’t care about child predators & writing incipherable goop on a bill. I think they’d be OK with a Dahmer Presidency because the base would be.

          • another_steve

            Personal collusion with Russia – a sworn enemy of the United States – constitutes treason.

            Whole other ballgame.

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            The problem is so many Trumpies are OK with being Putin’s bitch as long as it hurts or even kills people in this country they hate more. I’m still side eyeing all those weird tiki torch people screaming that Russia was their friend in Charlottesville.

            I’m actually surprised that Dump hasn’t tried to declare martial law yet. It’s not like Turtleface and Lyin’ Ryan would stop him.

          • another_steve

            If Trump gets to nominate a replacement for Justice Kennedy or one of the Supreme Court liberals, I believe there’ll be massive civil disobedience in this country. Big time. Thousands of people will attempt to block access to the Capitol Building to prevent the Senate from holding confirmation hearings.

            That’s when Trump will call out the National Guard.

            It’ll be similar to – but worse than – the Vietnam War protests of the 70s.

          • marshlc

            That there was not massive civil disobedience at the absolutely astonishing refusal to even hold confirmation hearings on Garland, shows that the majority of Americans just don’t care.

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            There should have been that kind of protest regarding Gorsuch.

          • another_steve

            Gorsuch was the perfect Trojan Horse. A brilliant choice on the part of the theofascists.

            Even moderate-to-progressive legal scholars at the time were saying things along the lines of “he may not be as conservative on all issues as some fear.”

            We’re in the process of learning what bullshit that was.

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            I think you are too optimistic. Our culture brainwashed its people into believing in saviors.

          • canoebum

            The Deplorables are so stupid. Many will have a minor epiphany of sorts when the GOP cuts off their Medicaid, SSDI, Medicare and SS retirement benefits, while simultaneously raising their taxes. Property and school taxes will also go up to make up the shortfall in Medicaid and cuts to education. Wages will remain stagnant. One day they’ll raise their heads and meekly ask “why are they doing this to us?” Dolts.

          • another_steve

            There didn’t/doesn’t seem to be a mass mobilization against this “tax reform” sham as there was against the attempts to repeal Obamacare. I’ll leave it to political scientists to determine why that is.

            Maybe it’s because the tax bills are so complicated and most people don’t really know how it’ll affect them personally. Or maybe it’s “news overload”: people are so overwhelmed with the daily pace of news on all fronts that they’ve tuned out.

            Or maybe it’s a combination of the two.

          • Sporkfighter

            Not if the game is played in the Florida panhandle, West Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, North Carolina, the southern parts of Illinois, etc. House members from those states play there.

          • John30013

            Perhaps…. One theory I heard (I believe from Lawrence on MSNBC last night) to explain why the GOP congress is pushing so hard and fast to pass their Fuck the US Taxpayer bill is so Trump can sign it before they have to impeach him.

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            If I were Trump, I would dawdle as much as I could,even send it back a few times to lengthen my stay in the Oval Office.

          • John30013

            I don’t think he’s that bright.

          • stuckinthewoods

            Republicans may also be pushing so hard to pass the tax bill now because it is possible that Jones could unseat Strange in a couple weeks.

          • John30013

            Even so, they’d still (likely) have 50 “yes” votes and Pence to break the tie.

          • Sporkfighter

            “No Republican in her or his right mind would not vote to get rid of him.”

            Whatever you’re smokin’ must be great. There is no reason to believe the Republican House leadership would bring a bill of indictment up for a vote, that the House would muster a majority to pass it, that the Republican Senate leadership would schedule time for a trial, or that two-thirds of the Senate would vote to convict. There is quite a bit of evidence that they’d talk, drag their feet, bring up uranium, Benghazi, and Hillary’s emails in an attempt to deflect attention from Trump’s crimes. Too many of the GOP House Republicans have districts in Trumplandia and fear they personally would lose their seats.

          • another_steve

            If Trump is shown to have been, beyond a shadow of a doubt, a traitor who is guilty of treason through colluding with a sworn enemy of the United States, do you really think any congressional Republican will want to be associated with that? Will want to be on record – as s/he runs for reelection – as not having forcefully condemned that?

            Really?

          • Sporkfighter

            They won’t “support” Trump, they’ll duck and weave, equivocate, “investigate”, shuffle committees, schedules, play up “scheduling difficulties”, and never get around to it.

          • David L. Caster

            It is precisely that “beyond a shadow of a doubt” thing that will be undermined. Fear, uncertainty and doubt will be cultivated everywhere they can take root.

          • another_steve

            The way I understand Flynn’s statement yesterday re his guilt, David, is this:

            “I’m not a traitor or a criminal because I was just following orders. (editorial comment: when have we heard that before in history?) I was instructed to talk to the Russians.”

            That order no doubt came from Kushner.

            Connect the Trump-to-Kushner dots now, and the orange sexual predator is toast.

          • David L. Caster

            We will see. The weak and pampered Trump clan may turn on itself, but there is a long way to go from there to 45 taking the hint and stepping down.

            I remain convinced that Trump will have to be forcibly removed from office by a Congress that is not in the hands of the GOP, which almost certainly would mean that Trump finishes his first term.

          • Galvestonian

            Are their ANY Republicans in their right mind ???

          • Todd20036

            Yes, but they left the GOP during the W administration

          • Cattleya1

            Don’t stand on one foot or hold your breath. These guys are masters of cognitive dissonance.

        • JaniceInToronto

          Nobody. Sadly…

    • CanuckDon

      Trump: “Flynn lied to the FBI about our conspiracy with the Russians to win the election. We did do that but Flynn said we didn’t. He’s a bad guy.”

    • John30013

      He’s retconning in the FBI part. Just piling on trying harder to make the firing look like his idea.

    • JCF
    • teeveedub

      Trump is not smart enough to know when he’s digging his own grave.

  • Lazycrockett
  • Boreal

    If there has been no collusion then why are you even addressing it, jackass?

  • Steven B

    Yes Mr Trump. Just keep listening to all the lies and false reassurances your lawyers and staff are telling you. Whatever you need to do to be able to sleep at night, stay calm and not start WWIII. Meanwhile, back at the Special Counsel’s Office….
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f266417e886407c5144b901f96725cd993081929f394c99aeb1ceb569035d287.jpg

  • another_steve

    Once again, he’s speaking only to his deplorables. They believe anything he says, however false or deceitful. If he tweeted that water isn’t wet, they’d believe him. They’re the only reason the Republican cowards in Congress aren’t speaking up.

    The deplorables are his lifeline.

    No one else matters to him.

    • Ross

      He is really only speaking to himself.

      Donald NEEDS to hear himself. Donald NEEDS to hear: No collusion.

      IT’S ALL ABOUT HIM.
      IT’S ALL ABOUT HIM.
      IT’S ALL ABOUT HIM.

      • another_steve

        There’s debate among pundits re whether Trump is truly demented (literally, not figuratively) or whether he knows he’s lying and is just playing to his low-info deplorables.

        I vacillate on this. Sometimes I think he’s truly mentally disordered and sometimes I think he knows truth from fiction but is simply lying for his own devious purposes.

  • zhera

    “What has been shown is no collusion, no collusion,” Mr. Trump said,

    Donnie, dearest, you have a tell. You always repeat the key words of your lie. ‘No puppet, no puppet.’ ‘No collusion, no collusion.’ And countless of other examples are out there.

    • Treant

      That’s why I love Donald, love Donald and I’m thrilled, thrilled that he’s in office.

    • Chucktech

      Another tell? “Believe me…”

      • zhera

        Of course, the biggest tell is that he opens his mouth/moves his fingers.

        You’d think a man with so much money would have competent people around him to avoid such obvious mistakes, but then Donnie wouldn’t be Donnie…

      • GanymedeRenard

        Tremendous. People are saying it.

    • JAKvirginia

      And, so what’s the prob D-man? Your own lawyer said collusion is not a crime. Oh, wait! Are you suggesting you did more than collude? Hmmmm……

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Treant

      And once again I say, he’s not playing chess. He’s not playing checkers. He’s playing tic-tac-toe against himself and losing.

      • coram nobis

        Good point. I’d like to see him play pool.

        He’s made to dwell in a dungeon cell
        On a spot that’s always barred.
        And there he plays extravagant matches
        In fitless finger-stalls
        On a cloth untrue
        With a twisted cue
        And elliptical billiard balls.
        — “Mikado”

      • Sporkfighter

        Looks like the average American is losing to me.

        • David L. Caster

          Yup. Brought it upon themselves they did.

          • Sporkfighter

            I didn’t bring it on myself. Why should I have to lose with the losers?

          • David L. Caster

            Unfortunately there is only one country here. If you live here, you suffer with everyone else that lives here when the political system we all live under functions as it has. This mess did not start November 9 of 2016, it has been in the works since the early 1980s, a slowly unfolding disaster.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        “Hold my beer”

        — tic-tac-toe-playing carny chicken

      • safari

        My parents were watching a Jack and Ozzy tour America show.

        I was introduced to the concept of chicken shit bingo. You take a chicken or two, put them in a cage with numbered grid on the bottom, and throw feed at them until one of them shits on a number.

        The person holding the ticket to that number wins.

        • Treant

          Trump can read numbers?

  • boobert

    Nothing to hide? Where are you taxes?

  • Treant

    Oh. Well. That settles it, then. Back to celebrating the great tax breaks that will Make Anal Great Again (without lube, by the rich, to the poor, whether they like it or not).

    • MusicBear88

      Don’t insult anal like that!

  • Chucktech

    Michael Flynn’s lawful actions. That’s why he pleaded guilty. Sure, Jan…

  • Do Something Nice
    • Lazycrockett

      I really want to know what the WH staff thinks bout this POS in their building.

    • M Jackson

      “But is the coffee pot ok?”

    • Mike Solo

      The toys are out of the pram!

    • Leo

      Twitter rumors have always been this account’s disinformation by a Bannon disciple. Still funny though.

    • CanuckDon

      Was it a Keurig?

    • canoebum

      He was only trying to hit a mouse he saw in the hall. The roaches he squashes with his cellphone.

  • Sam_Handwich
  • zhera

    Would any of you twitter folks be interested in helping me spread this tweet?

    https://twitter.com/quezherazhera/status/937015124946247680

    • M Jackson

      Yes.

    • Chucktech

      It’s simply going to take the suffering of sick children in Christendom, USA to MAYBE wake Trump’s deplorable goons who have sick children.

      • Steverino

        Oh, they-all jus’ sind those liddle chillin they-er thots n’ pray-yers.

        • David L. Caster

          In what passes for their minds, it’s God’s will.

        • Chucktech

          When it’s your kid who’s sick you know goddam well “thoughts and prayers” ain’t worth a tinker’s shit. Unless, of course you’re one of the waaaayyyy over the edge god-addled doofuses.

    • Treant

      I RT, but have no followers, really… Still, every little bit and all that.

      • zhera

        You could always @ someone you follow that has a lot of followers, like I did with Joe. 🙂

    • zhera

      I would REALLY love for this to get some traction. I don’t have many followers but if someone big on Twitter RT’s it then it’ll get out there. The fact that CHIP hasn’t been refinanced is so outrageous I don’t have words for it!

      • Chucktech

        Deplorable, to coin a phrase…

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Liked
      Re-tweeted
      Followed

      • zhera

        Thanks!

    • canoebum

      Send it to George Tekai, Cindy Lauper and Ashton Kutcher. They have big followings.

      • zhera

        Thank you!

    • jerry

      I did, but I have few followers.

      • zhera

        Every RT help. Thanks!

  • Lazycrockett
    • safari

      During the campaign we were introduced to the concept of there being two Donalds. Then told there was only one. But yet still two.

  • Treant

    OT: SyFy is running the Jake Weber version of Dawn of the Dead around 1:20 EST this afternoon.

    Yeah, bad movie, but the man-candy is pretty good in it, and they do occasionally show it.

    • Mike Solo

      I liked the movie, Sarah Polley is a pretty credible actress! Opening 10 minutes scared the shit out of me

      • Treant

        In the dark, at night, in October, it works.

        December, with the Christmas lights pouring out ten thousand lumens…maybe not so much. 🙂 I did rather like Ty Burrell’s extremely abrasive character and the concept of hiding out where there’s plenty of food and material things to keep you going.

        It’s also a negative commentary on commercialism, but there you go. 🙂

    • Mikey

      it’s actually one of Zack Snyder’s best movies, and in my opinion (and many film critics’, so I recently found out) the better of the two versions of the film.

  • Cackalaquiano

    And the Trumpanzees all shout “See libtards! It was all legal! Trump said so!”

    • canoebum

      Nixon said that, too. “If the President does it, it’s not illegal”. That went over real well with the Congress and the GOP, who in the end, asked him to resign or be impeached.

      • Steverino

        Except nowadays, their attitude is “if the GOP does it, it’s not illegal.”

  • boobert

    The tax bill is a big setback. Flynn and his son had some serious charges against them . He’s cut off communicating with the white house. There’s a lot for the moron to worry about. I hope the stress puts him over the edge.

    • Lantor

      Ivanka: “You can have your McD’s after you sign the bill, Daddy. All the McD’s you can eat. Won’t that be great?”

      • Treant

        Why can I see that happening? Along with, “And I’ll let you touch my boobie, Daddy…”

  • Mike Solo

    This is like a Russian copy of Game of Thrones, where they try to mimick the political machinations of dragons and heros, but manage to create a bizarre story line with an orange sloth and some incompetent rednecks.

    • Treant

      Also, moose and squirrel.

      • coram nobis

        Co-starring Boris and Natasha, as two “consultants”.

        • Treant

          For all that they were evil, I’ve always appreciated Boris and Natasha. They were two non-sexual heterosexual life partners who really seemed to get along great with each other. Really, there was far less friction in that relationship than in the one between Bullwinkle and Rocky.

          • coram nobis

            That’s right. There’s also the instructive mentorship between Mr. Peabody and Sherman.

          • Treant

            Did you ever detect a daddy/son thing going on there?

          • David L. Caster

            Thats why Peabody was a dog on the show: does not suggest the wrong thing about their relationship.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • TimCA

      Trump: It was just a texting error by your favorite President. Now everybody get back to hating Muslims!

    • AlternativeQuacks

      OMG I laughed so hard I almost fainted. Thank you.

  • Steven B

    Confidential to everyone in the Trump White House: Don’t be blindly loyal. 15 of Nixon’s staffers got jail time for Watergate. Nixon didn’t. (@shauna on Twitter)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/91ff4c9f78bbdd0608c5551baa6406ef08072252ea19d20c7d628b8d956487c8.jpg

    • zhera

      Both parties are the same!!!!!1!!11!

    • Chucktech

      Nixon was pardoned by Ford. That really didn’t go well for him, either.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      speaks VOLUMES!

      • Steverino

        Yep. So much for the party of “law and order.”

        • Sporkfighter

          It was never the party of “Law and Order”. It was the party of “Deflect Attention by Stirring up Fear of Black Men”.

      • coram nobis

        Three volumes. The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.

  • JWC

    That is entirely bogus cuz Pence was there all along Pence was not lied to he was part of it

    • Chucktech

      So were Reince Priebus and Kelly Ann Conway.

      • canoebum

        And Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner.

      • JWC

        All crooked

  • Rebecca Gardner
  • Lawerence Collins
  • ceeenbee
  • Slippy_World
    • Treant

      Want. Need.

  • GanymedeRenard

    Wait a second… So you fired him because his actions were lawful?! Am I missing something here?

    • Chucktech

      That’s cuz Trump is smart…

      • GanymedeRenard

        Ha! Bigly.

    • Sam_Handwich

      Dotard is playing underwater 4D Hungry, Hungry Hippo

      • GanymedeRenard

        He’s playing. Full stop.

  • boobert

    I have mixed feelings about his tweets. The false statements are continuous. They are being saved and he will probably hang himself with them.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    Maybe everybody here should screenshot it in case he tries to delete it. I’m sure Mueller has.

  • TimCA

    O/T: Tanzanian police arrest a woman over an online video showing a same sex kiss and ring exchange. 🙁

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tanzania-lgbt/police-arrest-woman-in-tanzania-over-video-of-same-sex-kiss-idUSKBN1DW0FP?il=0

    • so – just one woman got arrested? how does that work?

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • Henry Auvil

    It’s “pleaded guilty” not “pled guilty”, you illiterate asshole.

    • coram nobis

      “You say ‘pleaded’ and he says ‘pleded’
      Let’s send the whole bunch up!* ”

      (* up the river)

      • Henry Auvil

        In olden days such mad delusion
        Would indicate much collusion
        Now heaven knows
        Anything goes…

        • AJ Drew

          Nice! And let the tap-dancing commence!

        • coram nobis

          … consider each person’s auricular:
          What is all right for B would quite scandalize C
          (For C is so very particular);
          And D may be dull, and E’s very thick skull
          Is as empty of brains as a ladle;
          While F is F sharp, and will cry with a carp,
          That he’s known your best joke from his cradle!
          When your humour they flout,
          You can’t let yourself go;
          And it does put you out
          When a person says, ‘Oh!
          I’ve known that old joke from me cradle!’
          — “Yeomen of the Guard,” Gilbert & Sullivan

        • Michael White

          “In olden days a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking, but now god knows anything goes”

          I am so damn gay, I break into a musical at a moments notice

    • DoctorDJ

      That’s *Doctor* Illiterate Asshole to you…

    • AlternativeQuacks
    • Hue-Man

      Pled is fairly common in American, British, and Canadian popular usage. Here are a few examples out of many:

      Eighty-two confessed, while half a dozen others pled the Fifth Amendment, which protects people from being forced to incriminate themselves. [Washington Post]

      So too did the Miami-based accountant … who pled guilty to helping forge documents. [Financial Times]

      A Kelowna Mountie has pled guilty to a pair of charges stemming from a
      violent domestic dispute. [Vancouver Sun (article now offline)]

      But because pleaded is much more common and is unanimously recommended by English authorities and reference books (the dozen or so we checked, anyway), it is safer than pled.

      http://grammarist.com/usage/pleaded-pled/

  • Tomcat

    How about before the transition trump?

  • Boreal

    His supporters will of course fall for these lies, the rest of us know a guilty shitgibbon when we see one.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ca0626682438236fd4708ddadfa8e2d0dea67ded31c226941c2962b2b14b1294.jpg

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I’ll never understand why they’re not in favor of at least free dental care.

      • Boreal

        Soshalism.

        • can’t be going about promoting the general welfare or anything commie like that ya know!

      • AJayne

        They’d rather do without essential services than take a chance on “any of them others” getting even a small hand up…

    • Treant

      Trump! “Squeal Like A Little Piggy!”

      • Lumpy Gaga

        Make America Squeal Again

        • Treant

          Appropriately, Yes, MASA.

    • GanymedeRenard

      Their family tree is a wreath.

    • Lazycrockett

      Funny they don’t look black.

    • Reality.Bites

      More than you can say for son-of-immigrants Trump.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
    • Ragnar Lothbrok
      • Jim Maloney

        Trump seems to think he’s above the law and/or oblivious to it.

        • AJayne

          donald “thinks” like a dictator – right now, a dictator who doesn’t want any of us to see that, so “excuses” his actions based on what the blindly foolish among us will accept – good thing the number of those following in his every footstep is steadily decreasing…

    • TimCA

      The media is now picking up and reporting this.

  • BeaverTales

    They set the standard for presidential conduct by impeaching Clinton for lying about a BJ in ’99. This is a much more serious kind of lie….but lets win more seats in Congress before initiating impeachment. What goes around comes around. They killed the judicial nominee filibuster and let’s make them suffer from that as well.

    Winning Congress in 2018 is essential…Trump ain’t gonna impeach himself!

    • Reality.Bites

      No impeachment. There aren’t enough Senate seats up for the taking to give the Democrats enough to convict.

      And if they DID, the Republicans would force Trump to resign. There is simply no way the Republicans are going to have a televised impeachment trial.

  • Michael R
    • Bryan

      What, me worry?

      [edit: i should have refreshed the page..]

    • Christopher

      You can just hear Cheetolini saying “What? Me worry?” right now.

    • coram nobis

      I know who the father is: he’s got Blake Farenthold’s grin and Sarah Huckabee’s eyes.

      • Bj Lincoln

        Plus the gap in his teeth like Flea from Red Hot Chile Peppers.

        • coram nobis

          Rep. Ducky Pajamas also has that gap.

  • Sam_Handwich
  • Sam_Handwich
  • coram nobis

    I can hardly wait for the new series of tweet-spins from the Orange.

    I had to fire @Flynn because he was really working for @crookedHillary. I had nothing to do with it. None of this happened. I was never President. @crookedHillary has been AWOL from her job for 10 months! #Sad!

  • boatboy_srq
  • sadoldguy

    You didn’t fire flynn until the Washing Post published the scandal.

    Lier.

    And your fans called it ‘fake news’ too.

  • Sam_Handwich

    o/t

    but an important point to consider

    i guess we don’t know yet if they go to conference, or if the House takes up the senate bill

    https://twitter.com/Lawrence/status/936982198099595265

    • Treant

      Republicans. Billions sucked out of the economy and available for bribes. Republicans. The ability and motivation to fuck over everybody in sight who’s not “up to their standards.”

      Other than a protest that literally blocks access to the Halls of Congress a la the Romanians, I don’t see a great deal of hope.

    • Michael White

      Thanks for that bit of sanity. At Daily Kos there is a HUGH the sky is falling about cancer treatment. Does anyone really think BigPharma is going to all this to happen . The cancer drugs you see on TV run from $10,000 to $30,000 a month. They don’t really work in the real world, but BigPharma won’t let the cash cow disappear.

    • another_steve

      I’m surprised at this tweet of O’Donnell’s. He’s usually a realist.

      The Rethugs must (note the underlining) have an accomplishment with which to end their first year of having complete control of government. That, plus the major Republican donors (the Koch Brothers and their ilk) have read the Riot Act to their boys in Congress: “You give us these tax breaks or our contributions to your reelection campaigns will dry up.”

      Done. Deal.

      The orange monster will get a bill to sign.

    • SoCalGal20

      Lawrence’s other tweet.

      https://twitter.com/lawrence/status/936959370663022592

      This goes for any R Representative in any blue state – CA, NY, WA, OR, MA,

  • Treant

    OT: Dawn of the Dead: “We’re goin’ to the mall.”

    • Blake J Butler
      • Treant

        That’s cute and fun, actually. And sort of “Night of the Comet” in the attitudes and styles.

        • Reality.Bites

          And you’ll note that it features Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney going down to the mall to lecture the underage girls but then ending up seduced by their charms.

  • Lazycrockett
  • coram nobis

    Did Genius just admit he knew about the whole thing? #blurt

  • SFBruce

    Actually, Donnie, you didn’t fire Flynn because he lied to the VP or to anyone else; you fired him because the WaPo reported that he had lied, a circumstance you were not happy about. In your first public statement following Flynn’s dismissal, your were less angry at Flynn than the media coverage which had exposed him. You knew that Flynn had lied as early January 26, because Sally Yates told you, and yet you didn’t get around to firing him until February 13th as a result of the WaPo reporting, after you had already fired Sally Yates on January 30 supposedly for refusing to defend your racist travel ban.

  • AlternativeQuacks
    • Treant

      Why do I have the real feeling that an unstoppable fire started right around 9:15 this morning when Dumpster publicly admitted to obstruction?

      Not that the Republicans won’t be spewing water and fire foam around to slow it, but I’m not sure they can stop it at this point…

      • AlternativeQuacks
        • Treant

          “Some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don’t you think?”

          • AlternativeQuacks

            Hypothetical question. Can a lawyer get a gag order on his own client?

          • Treant

            Hypothetical answer: Are you sure that the lawyer in question doesn’t want his client to go down, and realizes that his client’s obvious mental problems mean that said lawyer won’t be blamed for the loss?

            :-p

        • JWC
      • BobSF_94117

        Oh, he’s gonna get out of everything because “he’s too stupid to realize what he’s doing”.

        • Treant

          Fortunately, ignorance of the law is not an excuse, nor is being within the normal intelligence range but not quite getting it. 🙂

          If he wants to claim mental defect, then that’s a great thing to throw back at the Dump voters.

          • BobSF_94117

            Ignorance of the law is no excuse except in the U.S. Senate…

  • coram nobis

    Jeez, and we used to think the Presidency was diminished when LBJ showed the press his surgery scars.

    • Treant

      And that Mrs. Obama’s bare arms. Worst thing ever a First Lady could do in public.

      https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/melania_-_copie_2.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&strip=all

      • Gay Fordham Prep Grad

        is the shadow supposed to represent a urine stream?

        • coram nobis

          A light effect. Photographer is being either cubist or Dadaist.

          That standing object really does look like a blowup doll, however.

        • Treant

          I assumed it was a completely incompetent photographer, because it doesn’t look good. And it sure doesn’t look like a ribbon, as has been suggested.

  • bkmn

    Much ado about treason?

  • Michael White

    Bitch is pissing his pants

  • Michael R
  • Lazycrockett

    I don’t care for this new MSNBC anchor.

    • JWC

      which one? There are only 3-4 there I do like

      • safari

        It still needs more Joy

        • JWC

          Rachel , Lawrence , Joy and the other Ari not the bald one

          • SoCalGal20

            The bald one is Ali Velshi, not Ari. 😉

          • JWC

            Ah ok then its Ari as the forth

    • BobSF_94117

      Times such as they are, I think we’re ready for the debut of News Eunuchs.

  • Reality.Bites

    In the reboot of “Back to the Future” Doc Brown finds out the President in the future is Donald Trump and refuses to help Marty fix the timeline. In fact he shoots him dead on the spot.

    It’s gonna be a pretty short movie.

  • Tom G

    This man thinks he’s at breakfast debating the issue with friends. He’s sealing the case for Mueller.

  • netxtown

    They all are sure doing a lotta of yakety-yak-yak-yak…..peeling off the guilt like kids tp’ing a tree.

    Run donnie – ya scared little sonofabitch. Flynn’s gonna blab – and you’re gonna hit the slab. you’ll slip into a jumpsuit and you can forever be king of the whole jail block.

  • Treant

    OT: Dawn of the Dead, right now. If I heard it right, “When there’s no more room in Hell, the Trumps will walk the Earth.”

  • JWC

    Donny is to stupid he aways lets the cat out of the bag

  • thatotherjean

    Donald Trump wouldn’t recognize lawful if it bit him on his large, orange behind. Apparently, neither would his lawyers.

  • safari

    O/T: Now that the GOP have decided to attack higher education by taxing tuition waivers, what do we call areas decimated by research brain drain? The factory towns got “rust belt”.

  • safari
    • Tread

      Appropriate, considering what’s inside the fundraiser.

      • Treant

        Surrounded by garbage, and garbage inside eating garbage to raise money for garbage.

        Honestly, America. It’s time for open revolt.

      • TampaDink

        Once again….I should’ve scrolled down before I typed.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Pulled the same thing outside Trump Tower on an ongoing basis and during a one-day confab with state GOPers here in Philly after the election.

      The new normal.

    • LosFelizGuy

      I like the IG comment “The Hunger Games are underway!”

    • TampaDink

      Garbage trucks are quite fitting considering all of the trash inside.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    For some reason, found this gif on the same page as two Trump gifs I thought were posted in this thread:

    https://media.giphy.com/media/XNgilZLKtGIhO/giphy.gif

    Homocons: TNG

    • Treant

      It’s certainly indicative of a future Trump voter.

      • Lazycrockett

        Maybe he will eat a spoon full of cinnamon next.

      • coram nobis

        Or it’ll surface during his confirmation hearings 25 years from now.

    • another_steve

      I don’t get it.

      What’s he doing?

      • OdieDenCO

        soap, hand cream, lube? take your pick

        • BobSF_94117

          I think it’s hand soap. I recognize the bottle.

  • JWC

    O/T and a bit of an aside but as deniable questions are being asked , how about one that Rachel put a pin in a month or so ago. The lost trail of Trumps inaugeration funds. Some $20M unnaccounted for, Could we add theft to the list??

    • TampaDink

      It should…and it MUST. (taking a brief break from packing).

  • Dayglo

    They’re coming for you, Caligula. Your own son-in-law will sell you out.

    • another_steve

      Not if Jared ever wants nookie from Ivanka again.

      • Treant

        Why would he when he has you waiting in the wings?

        • another_steve

          Because I cannot, on my meager federal pension, provide Jared with caviar and imported gluten-free crackers every day, as Ivanka and her family money can.

          When he’s released from prison, Jared will come to me.

          His father-in-law will be on his fifth wife and Ivanka’s designer shoes and colognes will have tanked. She’ll file for divorce in order to be able to marry someone who isn’t tainted through collusion with hostile foreign forces. Her businesses will rebound.

          I hope you’re taking notes on the above, Treant.

          There’ll be a test.

      • TampaDink

        He always has to wait for sloppy seconds after daddy whore bucks is finished.

    • Hue-Man

      Trump would sell anybody out.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Dotard Trump: Et tu Jared??!

  • Steven B
  • Gay Fordham Prep Grad

    It’s not “collusion” the word is “conspiracy.”

  • Treant

    OT: Dawn of the Dead: Zombie baby for the win.

  • Stogiebear

    If he really believes that lying to the FBI is not a crime he should try doing it as well as that whole shooting someone in broad daylight on 5th Avenue. With all the people he admonishes to carry, he’s bound to be safe from blow-back.

  • SoCalGal20
    • another_steve

      His “favorable number” has to go below 30 percent. At that point, Congressional Rethugs will start running for the exit.

      Anything short of that and Trump is safe.

      • Lazycrockett

        “So what if he is a Russian Agent and a Traitor to the country, he better than a democrat.”

      • BobSF_94117

        That’s silly. They’re not going to run for the exits. If anything, they’ll be carried in gilded sedan chairs (now tax deductible!) at a fast clip.

  • SoCalGal20

    Listen to Danica Roem. She is wise.

    https://twitter.com/pwcdanica/status/936882532452155394

    • another_steve

      Please… Does anyone really think that Trump won’t get a bill on his desk to sign? I was surprised to read elsewhere in these threads that MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell – a man who’s usually in sync with reality – is raising the same “let’s wait and see” hope.

      It’s nonsense.

      I’m positive of very little in life, but I’m positive that Trump will get a bill on his desk to sign.

      • SoCalGal20

        JFC Steve. I’m not saying you need to get off your ass but if people want to be heard and do SOMETHING this is a thing they can do. And Danica knows of what she speaks having just kicked Republican ass.

        Of COURSE the bill is probably going to pass the House and Trump will sign it. I’m not stupid. Or naive. But I’m also not going to shut up about it and just give up. Goddamn.

        • another_steve

          As many have said (you included, I believe, SoCalGal), the way for we ordinary folk to combat this current political nightmare is to get back control of the House next November. Without control of both houses of Congress, Trump’s legislative agenda will be dead.

          That will be a good start towards disempowering him.

  • Treant

    OT: Is anybody else looking forward to the premiere of “Happy!” starring Chris Meloni next Wednesday? It looks hysterical.

  • JT
  • SoCalGal20

    Big protest going on in Utah right now regarding plans to shrink Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monuments.

    https://twitter.com/buzzfeednews/status/937052165780078593

    • BobSF_94117

      There is nothing in U.S. law that allows a president to shrink national monuments.

  • TampaDink

    The first big lie of twitler’s tweet is in the first 4 words. He didn’t “fire” Flynn, he asked him to resign. He DID fire Comey as well as a shit load of judges.

  • Helen Damnation™

    “What has been shown is no collusion, no collusion,”

    What about what HASN’T been shown, Donnie John, and why are you hiding it?

    • Gianni

      He just forgot to say, “Yet!”

  • DesertSun59

    What we have is obstruction and fingering Pence now.

    Wow. 45 is a special stupid.

    • Treant

      Please, never use the words “fingering Pence.”

      I just threw up in my mouth a little.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/eee664e4c5a7a37d5e4576673b18b60e5fa746b46e3cabe43304f9e243da74f9.gif

      • TampaDink

        You beat me to it…by half a second….but your response better describes my feelings.

        • Treant

          Half a second is really good timing; one of my exes and I used to manage that regularly.

          • TampaDink

            Under most scenarios, half a second would (to me) be simultaneous….and that is a rare & beautiful thing.

      • another_steve

        I should be so lucky – to see my girl puke like that on an easy-to-clean surface.

        Inevitably, she upchucks on one of our fine upholstered armchairs.

    • TampaDink

      “Fingering Pence” two words I never wanted to read.

  • Ninja0980

    He does realize he just admitted to committing a crime right?

  • Hue-Man

    O/T HIV Prosecutions

    Ontario will no longer criminally prosecute HIV-positive people who
    don’t disclose their status to sexual partners if there is no realistic
    possibility of transmission
    , the province announced on Friday as it
    marked World AIDS Day.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-limit-hiv-positive-people-criminal-1.4429208
    The Criminal Code is Canadian federal responsibility but criminal prosecution is provincial responsibility.

  • Max_1
    • Lazycrockett

      He must not watch Rachel’s show.

  • Boreal
    • David L. Caster

      Offering trump advice to step down while he can? Making recommendations for a successor to Pompeo?

      • TampaDink

        Better advice…stepping in front of a fast moving bus.

        • Hue-Man

          Or a slow moving bus.

          • William

            Back up, just to be sure.

        • David L. Caster

          Hopping on his jet to Russia.

    • JT

      Woolsey: Your ass is grass, Drumpf. You’d better resign now and hope for the best.

      • William

        I recall something unpleasant befalling another Woolsey.

  • Richard B

    Yikes, more Trump gas lighting and we have been hearing he has been unhinged all week denying the undeniable and insisting things are true that we know are not. Trump’s lawyers aren’t idiots, know Flynn was close to Trump, that Flynn knows much of the dirt, and has cut a deal to testify against the inner circle to save his and his son’s ass from going to prison.
    My point being is we should expect Trump to ramp up his gas lighting, to be unable to sleep, throw out smokescreens, and begin to act out in extraordinary ways starting in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ….

    • coram nobis

      If he can deny the “Access Hollywood” tape he can probably deny anything. It’s possible he’ll deny he ever was president and that Hillary never shows up for work.

      • Gianni

        I must say that your comment, on the surface, sounds totally ridiculous. Yet, for whatever reason, I’m inclined to believe that it’s completely possible! 🙂 Donnie’s grasp on reality simply cannot be called a “grasp” anymore. It’s not even a “hold”. Barely a “cling”.

    • Gianni

      Donnie’s denials are going to set new records for speed and quantity.

  • SoCalGal20

    WaPo is on fire today.

    Story about Mueller’s investigation.

    https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/937047998277804033

    Analysis: Did Trump admit to obstruction of justice?

    https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/937058010345730055

    Former Trump aides talk about screaming fits, rivalries, Big Macs

    https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/937064986656067589

    • OdieDenCO

      sound like grade school at recess

      • William

        Suzy Perkins is a poo-poo head.

    • Bryan

      “And Trump’s appetite seems to know no bounds when it comes to McDonald’s, with a dinner order consisting of ‘two Big Macs, two Fillet-O-Fish, and a chocolate malted.’”

      • TexasBoy

        OMG, they have the worst shakes on the planet.

        • Bryan

          Right?

  • -M-

    We have not been shown ‘no collusion’ you lying piece of garbage. We have not, yet, been shown Mueller’s evidence of your various crimes. 😁😊

  • Max_1

    An analogy…
    I can drink beer and I can drive… But doing both is reckless and dangerous.

    The President can fire an FBI Director and the President can tell the FBI Director to lay off prosecution… But firing the FBI Director for not laying off the case is both reckless and dangerous.

    Can we get the drunk President removed from the roadway before he causes any more damage?

  • Max_1

    Dear Mr. Trump,
    It appears according to the Logan Act, that indeed, it was NOT lawful.

  • Max_1
    • another_steve

      In a sane United States of America, Laurence Tribe would have been a Supreme Court justice by now.

    • TexasBoy

      Now, now, Sarah will be along shortly to tell us what the President really said. I mean, surely he just mistyped the sequence, and is totally innocent….and…and…sorry, I can’t keep from laughing.

      • Max_1
        • JCF

          Way too flattering!

        • coram nobis

          Picasso?

          I once saw an exhibition of Picasso Between The Wars and came away with the impression that he disliked his girlfriends and wanted to cut them up.

          • Gianni

            That makes much more sense than that of some expert analyses I’ve read.

      • coram nobis

        “Your Honor, can we call this kind of evidentiary discovery a Covfefe Motion?”

  • Max_1

    O/T:
    From last night’s GOP’S bill…
    … Just thought you’d all like to see what Republican legislation through, so called regular order, looks like.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQBJewPVAAEMLcE.jpg

    • Max_1

      I especially like the farmer in front of his broken down home waving at the tax breaks the jet owner flying overhead gets… All in his MAGA hat. Because tax breaks for private jets are gggrrreeeaaattt!!! (you’ll have another 150 years of plowing before the farmer can buy a jet, but does he care?)

    • coram nobis

      Not bad, for a fifth grader.

      • Max_1

        Can you just hear the scramjet noises coming from the mouth of the person scribbling the jet exhaust?

        • coram nobis

          “Vroom, vroom. And now the mean dinosaur eats the airplane, crunch! Mommy, can I wear the ducky pajamas to bed tonite?”

    • William

      This tax bill applies to the 2017 tax year? The IRS won’t even have forms and website ready by April 15th.

  • TexasBoy
  • Max_1

    This will need source verification…
    https://twitter.com/ivanjohnson/status/937067161671016448

  • Professor Barnhardt
    • JCF

      What did David Byrne do to deserve this?!

  • Lazycrockett
    • coram nobis

      Coming to Barnes & Noble: The Art of the Plea Deal.

      New York Review of Books says “contrived plot, messy ending.”

      • Dazzer

        Oh for God’s sake, just have your damn up-vote for making me laugh stupidly.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      “Dear Flynn, thank you for helping increase my books sales. No love, Hillary. PS. HAHAHAHAHAHA!”

  • JCF

    New thread.

  • JackFknTwist

    Let me summarise what I think I know so far: Trump/turd knew that Flynn had lied to the FBI,( whether Flynn lied on the instructions of Trump/turd we shall see).

    Then Trump/turd fired Comey for not dropping his investigation into Flynn. And Trump/turd did that because he was afraid of that investigation into Flynn would come home to roost at Trump/turd’s door.
    Yes, Trump gave the orders to collude with Russia, whether by giving instructions to Flynn directly, or though that total knob, Jared.

    ‘The thick plottens.’……………………and I’m trying to keep up !

    But it is so sweet that every time Trump/turd tweets, he hoists his ample bulk by a very robust petard.

  • lymis

    There was no collusion. Just a friendly series of get-togethers among friends to arrange to throw the US election to Trump. None of anybody’s business, so no need to tell the truth about it to the FBI, CIA, Congress, the media, or the American People.

  • lymis

    On top of everything else, let’s not ignore the fact that “lied to the Vice President” is itself a lie. Pence knew all about it. He was personally warned by the acting head of the FBI and in writing by Congress, for God’s sake. So no matter what Flynn said, it’s not like Pence was blindsided by Flynn.

    If, in fact Flynn did tell him he hadn’t been in contact with the Russians, it was clearly a “wink, wink” sort of communication.

  • Avenger280

    By all means Donnie Dollhands, please continue to publicly incriminate yourself. Mr Mueller thanks you.

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  • Kevin Andrews

    The Shitgibbon howls some more. This septic tank flotsam, the gilded feces from the Goldman-Sachs Septic Tank of Washington District of Corruption deserves the Gallows in the public square sooner rather than later. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8f6c2ac98fc1f60da04cdd60143df7d63046de6ef34b87bfb0fcd150bb2874d0.png

  • Ben in Oakland

    so trumpee knew that Flynn had lied?
    Hmmmmmmm. Obstruction of Justice?

  • Ore Carmi

    “No collusion. No collusion. YOU’RE the collusion!”