Roy Moore’s Hate Group Files Brief Urging Mississippi Supreme Court To Defy SCOTUS On Same-Sex Marriage

From the Foundation For Moral Law:

Yesterday, the Mississippi Supreme Court held oral argument in Strickland v. Day, a case in which a lesbian is seeking custody rights to a child conceived through artificial insemination and born to her former partner during their “marriage.” The mother left the lesbian lifestyle and married a man, but Strickland claims that she should be recognized as a parent because the child was born during the “marriage.”

In an amicus brief submitted in August, the Foundation argued that the Court should not extend the presumption of parentage to the former partner because a woman cannot get another woman pregnant. The Foundation also invited the Mississippi Supreme Court to reject as illegitimate and unconstitutional the U.S. Supreme Court’s 2015 decision in Obergefell v. Hodges that purported to legalize same-sex marriage.

Foundation President Kayla Moore said: “The Constitution of the United States does not require a state supreme court to hold that a woman can be a child’s father. We hope that the Mississippi Supreme Court will stand up for what is right, both morally and legally.”

John Eidsmoe, the Foundation’s Senior Counsel, added: “In the 2015 case of Czekala-Chatham v. State, two justices of the Mississippi Supreme Court questioned the legitimacy of Obergefell. Our amicus brief urges the Court to consider those concerns in this case.”

As you surely know, defying the US Supreme Court is why Roy Moore was kicked off the Alabama Supreme Court for a second time.

Also as you surely know, the Foundation For Moral Law openly advocates for criminalizing homosexuality and for replacing the federal government with a Christian theocracy based entirely on “biblical law.”

  • clay

    Because that worked so well for him in Alabama?

  • safari

    Can we just shoot him with a fire hose? I don’t expect him to melt, but I’d enjoy it as a daily meditation exercise.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Does it have to be a fire hose? I can think of so many other things to….aaaaand I’ll stop there so Joe doesn’t get grief.

    • GanymedeRenard

      Lions. Throw him lions. He so wants to be a martyr.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        What the hell did lions ever do to deserve that much heartburn and indigestion?? 😉

        • GanymedeRenard

          Ask their ancestors. They seem to have had a penchant for junk food at the Coliseum.

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            True that.

          • Paula Key

            This was never done at the Coliseum.-Tour guide told me

          • GanymedeRenard

            That’s interesting. The academic consensus had been, until recently, in accordance with the notion that Christians were guilty of a number of crimes against Rome, and that therefore they were deserving of the punishment called damnatio ad bestias. Tertulian (2nd century CE) mentions Romans shouting for Christians to be fed to lions – at the Colosseum.

      • Max_1
        • Paula

          No, no, he might like that.

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Bossy bottom.

    • Uncle Mark

      Can the fire hose shoot concentrated acid, instead of water? That will definitely melt him

  • Max_1

    Yet, the “Foundation For Moral Law” is silent on it’s position about a 34 year old man undressing a 14 year old girl…

    • clay

      … he’s not married to.

      • Max_1

        Because he meet is current wife when she was 15…
        … (gasp) An older woman!!!

      • coram nobis

        The sin was if he didn’t ask the father’s permission.

      • kaydenpat

        Ouch!!

      • doninkansas

        as long as she isn’t married to someone else, it is ok.

    • SFBruce

      But that’s OK, because since Moore had served in the military, most of the women around his age were already married, so he really needed to date teenagers in order to meet women who met his standards for purity.

      Some knuckle dragger actually advanced that “argument” to justify Moore’s despicable behavior. I don’t remember who it was. Ordinarily I’d take the time to google it, but it’s not worth the 30 seconds it would take.

      • Lizard

        Sounds like a typical evangelical argument. They want to marry off girls as young as 15, before they’ve fully developed their own identities (e.g. looked at their parent’s theology and decided “Oh look, this is sexist horseshit.”)

        The fact that it’s still a felony doesn’t seem to have slowed them down.

        • The_Wretched

          Or that divorce rates are highest among the youngest at the time of marriage. People who marry later and by their choice are less likely to get divorced. See also single parenting rates.

          • Lizard

            You know as well as I do that they’ll do whatever it takes to keep women from leaving unhappy marriages. You’ve read the writings of the Pearls and their ilk.

        • SFBruce

          In Alabama, a 32 year old man who would like to marry a 15-year-old only has to wait a few months, since 16 is the age of consent there. According to FindLaw, with parental consent, that 32 year-old could’ve married her at 14.

          • Jonathan Smith

            and those parents should be SHOT.
            THAT is disgusting.

          • Bj Lincoln

            That is sick.

        • Benjamin Eugene NElson

          [cition needed] on the “Typical” there.

          • Jonathan Smith

            why sure:
            “Field is a writer, seminarian and ex-fundamentalist Christian who attended several Independent Fundamental Baptist churches in Florida and other parts of the South as a child. In those communities, she says, a significant age difference among couples was seen as ideal for allowing men and women to carry out their God-given duties ― the husband to provide and lead, and the wife to run the household and give birth to many children.

            While the ideal age for girls to get married was 16 or 17, Field said that “below 16 wouldn’t be unusual.”

            “Younger than 15, people would probably start raising their eyebrows a little bit, but just a little bit. If they knew the couple personally, they probably wouldn’t have a problem with it,” she said. “They’d think, this is so godly and God-led.””

            or…see Quiverfull,

          • Jonathan Smith

            fuck, just Google: christain sect marrying children

          • Yeah, its disgustingly common as an excuse for pedophilia.

          • Jonathan Smith

            it’s not pedophilia. she is my wife!
            no, sorry. it’s still pedophilia.

          • You know how they’ll say “Mohammad married a child which is proof of Islam being evil” as part of their myriad islamophobic tirades to distract from their own bigotry and evilness?

            Funny how fast the supporters of patriarchy suddenly decide they’re ok with it the moment it’s “one of us”.

          • Jonathan Smith
          • John30013

            I, um, need to go off by myself for a while….

          • Benjamin Eugene NElson

            thank you.

          • The_Wretched

            Have you considered taking a break from the internet?

          • Benjamin Eugene NElson

            I missed the “Evangaical” part somehow. I fueked u.

          • Lizard

            Vision Forum, No Greater Joy ministries, IBLP….

            Modern evangelicalism promotes courtship (Joshua Harris, 1997), a system which places women under the care of a male figure no matter her age (Botkin sisters, continuous writings), her father before she’s married and her husband after. They also severely limit women’s choices when it comes to outside-of-household community (Debi Pearl, 2004) and advocate heavy political involvement, including opposing children’s rights (HSLDA, ongoing opposition to the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child), LGBT rights (Michelle Duggar, 2016), and abortion rights (every evangelical group ever, at least since the 1980s, when they realized segregation was a lost cause).

            Need more? I have more.

          • Benjamin Eugene NElson

            I do apoloogise, I missed the “Evangalism” part. I thought you were talking about Christians in general. My mistake.

            I mean I’m pretty sure Jesus would not approve of Starbucks in churches..

    • Frostbite

      Well that’s because it’s ok. It’s in their bible.

    • Orly

      If anything, 14 is a little old for these people. By the time they are 14, they’re starting to think for themselves, and we can’t have that can we.

      • Jonathan Smith

        not to mention, they might need tampons.
        ewwwwww.

  • bkmn
  • Megrim Twist

    Foundation For “Moral” Law.
    We can all use scare quotes, assholes.

  • coram nobis

    So, if the Masterpiece Cakeshop ruling goes the wrong way, can states like California defy that too?

    Arguments are on Dec. 5.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    ” ….left the lesbian lifestyle ”

    What does that even mean ?

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      She stopped shopping at LL Bean?

    • Judas Peckerwood

      Driving a U-Haul to a second date? Or not, I guess.

    • AlternativeQuacks

      According to Margaret Court, it has something to do with tennis.

      • coram nobis

        Something to do with playing mixed doubles.

    • bkmn

      Her Subaru broke down

    • Tomcat

      It was just a thang wit her.

      • Paula

        It was just a phase.

    • clay

      wears dresses instead of flannel (nope– femmes)
      drives a sports car instead of a truck or subaru (nope– lipsticks)
      stopped munching carpet (nope– celibate lesbian nuns)
      married a man (nope– immigrants, elders, and arranged marriages)
      moved to the country (nope– lesbian separatists)
      moved to the city (uhhhh, No)
      moved to the suburbs (like half the lesbians in the US?)
      left the college dorm (Okay, now, just stop)

    • Steverino

      Traded in her Toyota Tundra 4W-drive for a Miata?

    • Mike_in_the_Tundra

      Maybe she bit her tongue.

    • GanymedeRenard

      Buying at Home Depot, driving a pick-up truck, and wearing plaid shirts. All gone.

    • clay

      She left the Thespian lifestyle– editing error.

    • killreligion

      It probably means she got brainwashed which implies the kid needs to be saved from religious abuse

      Otherwise, why not let the x spouse be a coparent? If it’s simply a breakup/bisexual thing the kid could have three parents.

      The attempt to remove the parent (#2 I guess?) shows this is likely religion based.

    • coram nobis

      Changed the décor to Good Housekeeping Midcentury.

    • BobSF_94117

      I’m not sure, but I’d bet dollars to donuts it involved driving away in a U-Haul.

  • Dunkerblinker

    next she will ask that the age of consent be dropped to 5.

    • Todd20036

      And fucking a 4 year old is punishable by a fan, or 6 weeks of doing carpentry.

      • Jonathan Smith

        or dating Roy Moore?

  • GanymedeRenard

    You have no power there, servant of Morgoth!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieZObAfga7s

    • John30013

      Do not fuck with Galadriel!

  • The_Wretched

    The default rule at law is that any kids that appear during a marriage are the kids of the parents who are married. You can think of it as a bit of legal face saving for non-monogamy. It’s a very old default rule and has stood against many challenges. The regular rule of law would be to count the kid at the kid of the lesbian couple.

    Asking a court to rip a kid from it’s parent is cruel. What are the odds that Day was ‘delivert’?

  • Tawreos

    They can never spread enough hate for people they don’t like or enough bullshit to cover the crimes of the people they do like.

  • SammySeattle

    replacing the federal government with a Christian theocracy based entirely on “biblical law.”*

    *only where absolutely convenient.

  • AlternativeQuacks

    “We hope that the Mississippi Supreme Court will stand up for what is right, both morally and legally”
    Too late.

  • Max_1

    Children as property… Who get’s to claim ownership.
    As IF children are chattel…

    • Tawreos

      not just children, don’t forget they think the same of women as well.

  • MikeBx2

    I’m sure Kimmel is terrified of a man who likes to chase little girls.
    https://twitter.com/MooreSenate/status/936315009424031746

    • Mike_in_the_Tundra

      Jimmy will need another man with whom to talk.

    • Jonathan Smith

      actually, i would LOVE to see Jimmy beat his ass into the ground……..
      verbally, of course.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada
      • Jonathan Smith

        now all we need is Jimmy posting “hey, i ASKED to debate the fuck, he declined. Here is a copy of his reply”

        • clay

          Jones could do the same.

          • Jonathan Smith

            “I refuse to debate a child molester and hater. If you would like to talk about oh, IDK, foreign policy? USA taxes? Child health insurance?”

          • clay

            (Moore already refused to debate Jones. Then he pontificates about the campaign careening from the issues.)

          • Jonathan Smith

            of course. the issues.
            “your a child molester”
            “but….but…..GAY’S!!!!!!!!”

    • Natty Enquirer

      Typical. Playing to the testosterone crowd.

      • Bluto

        He’s a man’s man!
        But then again so is every man I’ve ever swaggled.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Bad move Roy, very bad.

    • Paula

      Ohhhhhh. I’ll take him up on that. As long as you guys crowdfund my bail and defense.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok
      • MikeBx2

        Perfect!

    • vorpal

      Christian value mocking is like masturbation: it gets the job done without anyone else’s help.

  • HZ81

    Once again. Gay = sick. Kid-fucking = ok.

    Republican morals on display.

    • Steverino

      Moore-als.

    • kaydenpat

      Or their lack thereof.

    • Chucktech

      Really sort of a lateral move from Gay = kid-fucking.

      • Jonathan Smith

        what?
        Republican Bible Thumper= child Molester?
        but at lest he’s not a dem!

        • David Walker

          That’s the important part. I forget where, but I’m pretty sure it’s in the Old Testament somewhere.

  • Leo
  • Jonathan Smith

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/28311847fbc8d5dcef9ea58064f39ca3422bff957c0eb8c9719c0de4fd7f3ef9.gif
    is this NOT why he was removed from the bench, the SECOND FUCKING time?

    • Tawreos

      You didn’t really expect them to learn anything from personal experience did you?

      • Jonathan Smith

        yes, how to pick up prepubescent girls.

      • Lizard

        Why should he? It plays great with the majority in Alabama, apparently.

    • Lizard

      And now he’s the Senatorial front runner, ahead of the guy who prosecuted the KKK.

      They left their sense of shame behind a long-ass time ago.

    • Chucktech

      we done saw wut happened to yew, juge mower…

  • LeeCMH

    Using a French accent:

    Biblical law and Sharia law, no difference.

  • Natty Enquirer

    I have to think it’s hard for “lawyers” to be taken seriously when they argue that a state court should disregard the opinion of the U.S. Supreme Court.

    • Jonathan Smith

      U.S. Supreme Court
      what do they know about law?
      …..oh, they do?
      FAKE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!

  • JWC

    Ok I may be alone But i have gotten very tired of seeing this sloped shouldered, ill informed. bitter old Siouthern biggot to last a lifetime .Him and his wifey poo are beyond well beyond tedious

    • Tawreos

      Once he wins he will go back to being terrifying instead of tedious.

  • The_Wretched

    There’s a very good summary of the case here:

    http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/local/2016/01/18/same-sex-custody-case-presents-hard-legal-questions/78853584/

    It’s worth noting that Lamda Legal is the attorney for Strickland (the shut out mother) and a host of reproductive rights orgs filed amici on her behalf.

    Legally, Strickland is behind a bit since the divorce decree ruled her a non-parent even though she spent the last 5 continuous years as their mom (1 6 year old boy adoptee and 1 infant from in vitro, the bio mom is the newly not-gay one). Absent the State of Mississippi dragging its feet about implementing changes after Obergefell, that would have gone differently.

    this is the newly straight Mrs.Day:
    https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/i/newscms/2016_36/1698891/chris_strickland_3_7a11dc1e4221e5c5c4814ae22f80180c.jpg

    • Natty Enquirer

      It’s even more tangled than that. They got married out of state when it was still illegal in Mississippi. Then Day got married again before she filed for divorce from Strickland. I have no idea how that works.

    • greenmanTN

      Jesus. Have she and Roy Moore ever been seen in the same room at the same time?

      • Jonathan Smith

        depends, did she have her daughter with her?

        • The_Wretched

          two sons, no daughters.

          • Jonathan Smith

            then he was not interested
            13 year old girls? THAT’S ok.
            BOYS? BIBLE says icky!!!!!!!!!!
            (But they DID look cute in those shorts)

    • ClevelandJim

      Deffo pings my gaydar. Oh wait, that’s a str8 FEmale…

      • Jonathan Smith

        your a lesbian?
        more power to you!
        how’s Kim Davis looking? 🙂

        • ClevelandJim

          She’s looking the same as always, like last week’s leftover stuffed cabbage left out in the August sun for a couple days.

      • BobSF_94117

        My gaydar is sending mixed signals, but she’s definitely the top in her new marriage.

  • lymis

    ““The Constitution of the United States does not require a state supreme court to hold that a woman can be a child’s father. ”

    That’s true as far as it goes, but the Supreme Court rulings do nothing of the sort.

    A birth certificate is not some sort of genetic certification of parentage by the state – and whether it ever was considered to be or not, that went out the window the moment the laws made it clear that the husband of a married woman was the legal father regardless of what may or may not have transpired to engender the child. That’s been the precedent for, like forever, with nothing to do with same-sex marriage.

    A birth certificate is a statement of who has parental rights from the point the child is born. It doesn’t require the state claiming that one woman is the “father” in order to recognize that as the spouse of the child’s birth mother, she has parental rights regarding the child unless and until she voluntarily relinquishes them or forfeits them by state action due to neglect or endangerment.

    • SFBruce

      Exactly. to put it in a slightly different way: when a married woman gives birth to a child, the person to whom the mother is married is also a parent in the eyes of the law. And that’s true regardless of the gender of the spouse of that legally married mother.

      Nothing to see here, really, unless you happen to be someone who’s made a career out of really, really hating gay people.

      • Jonathan Smith

        like, IDK………
        Roy Fucking little girls Moore?

    • John30013

      Oh, you liberals and your facts.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Tangential O/T….

    America, this is pretty much it in a nutshell….

    Yeah, you’re fucked….

    https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/936269848304332801

  • Mihangel apYrs

    I wonder what view the mother takes of this group intervening? If she supports them, then she is a hypocrite since she was living as gay when she became pregnant with the expectation that her partner would support her.

  • fuzzybits
  • Boreal

    This is part of a wider concerted effort to test the waters. Now that they have the dotard to appoint far right hacks, it will only take one more on the SCOTUS to accept and hear a case and overturn Obergefell. They will keep trying.

    • canoebum

      If they try that there will be civil war in this country.

      • Boreal

        Most likely but they don’t care, just as they didn’t with slavery.

  • fuzzybits

    Don’t these ass wipes have enough problems in Alabamy without going over the border.

  • Bluto

    There’s nothing in the Constitution saying a middle aged man is permitted to rape 14 year old girls either.

  • AlternativeQuacks

    OT – Two more. After the NYDN editorial yesterday and Joe Scarborough’s monologue this morning, now Trump’s former ghost writer claims 2 WH sources and the NY Times does this.

    It seems like there’s a little drumbeat building for the 25th amendment.

    https://twitter.com/TheBeatWithAri/status/936019292054872065

    https://twitter.com/avpskis/status/936052788185960448

    • clay

      But are they on the Cabinet?

      • Jonathan Smith

        but will they speak up PUBLICLY?

      • AlternativeQuacks

        This is long overdue, and Trump has been “pouring napalm on everything” this week like Joy Reed said, but I don’t think these all coming out at once is a coincidence. Maybe this is the Republican plan to get rid of Trump. John Kelly did get called to a mysterious late night meeting at the Capitol earlier this week.

    • Lizard

      Tony Schwartz calling Trump a sociopath is nothing new. He’s been trying to get that out since at least the summer of 2016.

  • Lizard

    Wowza. There’s having no shame, and then there’s…this.

  • kaydenpat

    Putting “marriage” in quotes after Obergefell is beyond childish. They need to grow the hell up.

    • Jonathan Smith

      yeah, good luck with that.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Here’s a correct usage of quotes: “Judge” Roy Moore, pedo candidate.

      • Jonathan Smith

        “Judge” Roy Moore, pedophile candidate.
        fixed it. longer words:)

      • UrsusArctos 🐻

        Twice removed from office for arrogant defiance of the law “Judge” Roy Moore, pedo candidate.
        Although Deplorable “Judge” Roy Moore, pedo candidate is shorter.

    • Chucktech

      In order to “grow up,” they’d have to eschew their superstition. Ain’t gonna happen.

  • Joseph Miceli

    What’s the penalty for treason again ?

    • Jonathan Smith

      a seat in congress?

    • The_Wretched

      A cushy job with $5mil annual salary?

    • Alexander Stallwitz

      Stealing the presidency?

  • William

    Moore would really like living in Iran. The rulers look right out of Duck Die-nasty.

  • Orly

    Funny how this “Foundation” for “Moral Law” is still using quotes around the word marriage. How quaint.

    • Jonathan Smith

      and they wrote it with a quill pen?

  • Alexander Stallwitz

    Remeber, God supports molesting little girls but not them Gays marrying. Or if thats too wordy for the trumpkins. “Children molestation good, gay marriage bad” and they call us the degenerates…

  • KnownDonorDad

    OT: I needed some good news today. The Nazi profiled in the NYT says he lost his job and home. Nice!

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/11/30/nazi-next-door-says-new-york-times-profile-cost-him-job-home/908317001/

  • TexasBoy

    “…replacing the federal government with a Christian theocracy based entirely on “biblical law.”

    So would the stones used to slaughter a non-Virgin bride on her father’s doorstep be color coordinated to the bride’s wedding? What protocols would apply?

    Are law enforcement officials going to be posted outside of houses of worship to be sure no one enters wearing glasses or contact lenses?

    Bye-Bye American football.

    And a traditional Christmas ham…forget about it, and those poor shareholders of Red Lobster, since they’d need to be closed down for serving shellfish.

    And forget wearing any sort of fabric blends.

    • Paul

      Shall I meet you at that adulterer Kim Davis’ house with a shovel and a whole load of stones?

  • Litty Thum

    “lesbian lifestyle”. What does that mean? A secret underground way of living that includes sex clubs, dungeons and sorcerers? Or, lifestyle as in some lesbians who live in the city and others in the country or those who are Doctors or Lawyers or those who are Social workers and those who like to party and those who don’t etc etc.

    • BobSF_94117

      Potlucks, lots and lots of potlucks.

  • UrsusArctos 🐻

    This’s GREAT news! /snark
    Since MS has the highest proportions of same-sex couples raising biological, adopted or step-children, his garbage is spectacularly damaging and hateful.
    https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/research/census-lgbt-demographics-studies/lgbt-parenting-in-the-united-states/

  • Michael

    If anyone could introduce me the “lesbian lifestyle” because my car really, really needs to be taken better care of.

    • Bj Lincoln

      I would if I knew what “lesbian lifestyle” was. 🙂

      • Michael

        Once I find out what the “gay man lifestyle” is I’ll forward you the Cosmopolitan recipe 😉

  • Friday

    Their “Moral Law” is neither.

  • ted-

    And who gives a fuck about what Kayla thinks?! You married a politician/fired judge, does not make her possess any knowledge of what’s legal or not.

    • Gianni

      She was 15 years old when she first caught his 30-year-old eye at a girls’ dance recital. The question has been asked, “What was a single, childless, man in his 30’s doing at that recital. I would guess he was salivating. Eight years later, he married that girl because he met her again and remembered her when he heard her name.

      • ted-

        Yeah, he’s a creep.

        • Gianni

          It was definitely a pattern in his life.

  • Dale Snyder

    You may win as you’re backed by illiterate fat christian pigs, as you and your wife are, but nothing will change the fact that you’re a child molester.

    A. C.H.I.L.D. M.O.L.E.S.T.E.R.

  • John Calendo

    This will be fun. This will be a Hee Haw rerun.

  • JeauxFan

    Kayla Moron, I mean Moore, Ms. Strickland is not the child’s father; she’s it’s PARENT. Fool.

  • Richard B

    Roy Moore is a hateful kind of child molester isn’t he?
    Do you think Roy is trying to distract attention away from the 9 women that complained he did naughty stuff to them while they were teenagers when he was in his 30s?
    Or is he doing this because he is has a mean streak in him?