Right Wing Site: Vote For Roy Moore Because God Often Chooses Evil Men To Promote The Greater Good

According to the far-right Federalist, Christians should feel comfortable voting for “morally questionable” candidates like Roy Moore because “God uses evil men to carry out his purposes.” Seriously. An excerpt:

Just go back to the Old Testament and see how he used secular leaders. God employed foreign kings to bring about his purposes of rebuilding the holy site of Jerusalem. For example, King Cyrus of Persia helped the Jews with royal decrees and financing to construct the temple, and later foreign armies defended them.

The stories of Esther, Daniel, and Joseph are all full of God’s power being exercised through political leaders, revealing the difference between the secular and the sacred. Esther even allowed a man who was falsely accused of rape to meet his death because that was best for the Jewish people. The man had never touched her, but she allowed him to be falsely accused of sexual abuse because it was politically expedient — and it saved her people from death.

Today, God uses the “ungodly” as doctors, lawyers, teachers, and politicians. To vote for, associate with, or even advocate for a person working in the secular arena who will bring about the “greater good” despite being personally immoral, pagan, or the member of some “unapproved” Christian sect (as the Catholics once were in America) is justified. To refuse to do so out of fear of God’s judgment on our nation is fusing the city of man and the city of God in a way that God didn’t even do.

Hit the link for much more crazy.

  • bkmn
    • The_Wretched

      moore is too boosy with sticking his foot in his moouth oon a daily basis.

      • vorpal

        Better his own foot than a 14 year old girl’s.

    • Adam Schmidt

      I just want to ask them if this is the best the GOP has to offer? A judge who was removed from the bench twice for breaking the law, who in almost every case sided with the rapist, who was banned from a mall for chasing teenage girls when he was 30, and has a pile of women coming forward to talk about his come-ons and sexual advances when they were teenage girls.

      Really? This is the best you have to offer out of an entire state? This is your standard bearer for your party?

      • Jonathan Smith

        yes.
        Problem?

      • Lizard

        According to 54% of voting republicans, yes.

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      • The_Wretched

        None more proud to wave the dominionist flag and signal a willingness to overlook harming the citizens ‘in the name of a ”greater” good’. That’s about as far as it goes.

      • MBear

        Yup. And he will win

    • Jeffg166

      I like your thinking.

    • Nick in Pasadena

      Because he doesn’t hate the people they do.

    • JCF
  • uh…
    wut?

    • Chucktech

      JEEZIS AN GAWD AN THE BIBBLE THETS WHAT YEW GAWDLESS HOMO

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        It’s almost like you know their language

        • Chucktech

          I’m really working on my conversational Hillbilly.

  • djcoastermark

    O/T but important. Today is Giving Tuesday. If you have a few spare bucks, it doesn’t have to be much, why not give a bit to Casa Ruby in DC or Ali Forney in NYC. Doesnt have to be much, every lil bit helps.

  • TampaZeke

    They’ve always got a slimy, twisted righteous answer to excuse them from their unrighteousness.

    • Chucktech

      And that slimy, twisted righteous answer ALWAYS involves god and the bible. Always.

  • thrunch

    Finally, we have an explanation for Adolph Hitler!

  • Moore is going to lose. You can feel it. I do not believe the polls for one reason. Many people are not going to tell any pollster in Alabama if they are white that they are going to vote for a Democratic candidate. They will be worried about being burned out of their homes, and I am not exaggerating. Also, many married female voters will tell their husbands one thing and do another when the curtains are pulled closed at the voting booth. The only thing that can help Moore is if this turns into a national race– and Democrats do overkill like Osoff did in Georgia 6 by buying up every single available 30 second televsion spot in Atlanta. This still needs to be an Alabama-only race — with a local profile and “morally just” profile, keeping Moore’s past as a child sexual predator as the central issue.

    • gaycuckhubby

      Please please please be true!

    • Gustav2

      Moore buried under TV ad barrage

      “…massive disparity in TV ad spending between the two candidates in the Alabama special election to a Senate seat, where Jones, the Democratic candidate, is outspending Moore roughly 7-to-1.”

      https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/27/roy-moore-jones-alabama-senate-261024

    • Talisman

      Nope.

      You forget that this is the Bible belt. Women are socialized to not engage in politics, and generally just vote for whomever their husbands tell them to.

      Even if they don’t vote based on the husband’s word, they will certainly vote for Moore if their preacher/minister tells them to.

    • Chucktech

      Odd. I believe Moore will win for many of the reasons you point out.

      God, I hope you’re right and I am wrong.

      • JAKvirginia

        Moore, sadly, might win.We can use it so the Republican Party loses. (If Dem leadership gets its head out of its ass.)

    • The_Wretched

      Moore will win for the same reason Osoff lost – unverifiable machines and ‘hicups’ during the counting.

      • Chucktech

        And “accidentally” erased data with no accountability.

      • minidriver

        and suddenly finding boxes of ballots coming in around 3AM

  • shellback
  • Anastasia Beaverhousen

    And Hitler had populations murdered. How about that asshole?

    • Chucktech

      That means god is smart. (yew homo libtow-erd)

  • liondon#iamnotatraitor

    So he is a child molester.

    • KCMC

      sure sounded like admission

    • Chucktech

      No biggee. Gawd’s workin’ through him.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        So shall ye be cleansed by the blood of the junior-high girls.

  • Tawreos

    But Moore isn’t a secular evil man, his whole act is based on how godly and righteous he is. If he is lying about that then what else is he lying about?

    • Gustav2

      Christianists can have it both ways!

    • Jonathan Smith

      everything?

  • gaycuckhubby
    • Jonathan Smith
      • gaycuckhubby

        It’s astounding to me that a man so bereft of Reason comprehension and decency was able to sit on any Supreme Court

        • Chucktech

          But we’re talking Alabama Supreme Court. They’re special.

          • Jonathan Smith

            I’ll read to the REAL slow then……..

          • Reality.Bites

            And elected.

    • Gustav2

      Moore probably paid for it like Trump did to go after Clinton.

      We won’t know until the final filings from his campaign.

  • This article hits at the core of how Trump got elected. And the insane uphill battle that faces Dems. If you are ever screaming mad about how stupid Americans can be, it comes back to this.

    • Chucktech

      And it all really boils down to god belief.

      • Absolutely. Since Reagan, Republicans have been “great” at wearing god on their sleeves. It doesn’t matter what the Bible actually says, the Republicans marketing strategy has tricked the credulous into believing they stand for the will of god.

      • Pluto Animus

        Which comes from a childlike belief in magic.

  • Slippy_World
    • Jonathan Smith

      there. there, donnie. daddy will take care of you.
      for all eternity.

    • Buford

      The obvious question – if God is omnipotent, why would He pick evil men to help enact His agenda instead of just… you know… enacting His agenda with an ‘I Dream Of Jeannie-style’ folded-arm nod…!??!

      • Chucktech

        Really just falls apart with even grammar school-level logic, doesn’t it?

        • Buford

          It really does. I asked the same question previously about Noah’s flood and the ark… why not just kill all the wicked by making their hearts explode or vaporizing them or whatever, and forego all the other headache.

          I never got an answer.

          • Chucktech

            gawd used a arc yew homo

          • Buford

            Sooo inefficient.

          • Jonathan Smith

            too much like work.
            He wanted to go golfing.

          • Buford

            C’mon… anyone who’s tried to show someone how to do something in Excel knows that it’s easier to just move them out of the way and do it yourself than it is to try to talk someone through doing it. God coulda saved years by simply killing the wicked himself.

      • Jonathan Smith

        because……
        goD does not exist?
        just a theory. like evloution and “round Earth”

    • JCF

      Oval Office live feed?

  • Jonathan Smith
  • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

    The right constantly shrieks that us homosexuals are evil so if they want the greater good, I’m seeing an all queer Congress, amirite?

    • minidriver

      I’m OK with this

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    The saying goes something like this – even the devil can defend himself by using the Bible.

  • AlternativeQuacks

    Vote for Chthulhu because he’s the only one who’ll really give Republican voters what they really want.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • Talisman
    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      “And here we see where Evangelical Christians get their logic from….”

    • Steverino

      When faced with the moral hypocrisy inherent in right-wing apologia like this, I think of Nixon’s secretary, Rose Marie Woods, showing how she twisted herself into a pretzel to explain how she “accidentally” made the crucial 17 minute erasure in one of his Oval Office tape recordings during the Watergate investigation.

      Sure, Jan.

      Right-wingers always pull out all the stops to justify their malfeasance and hypocrisy.

    • Lizard

      I see the metaphor, but am I the only one who thinks this gif is kinda cool? The foldy machine is brilliant.

    • Todd20036

      Mmm. Garlic pretzels…

  • Oh, Parker

    You sure never heard any talk about it being “God’s plan” when they were calling marriage equality and all of us evil.

  • boobert

    God choosing evil kinda proves his nonexistence .

    • Beth Sanders

      NOT true.
      In Christ,
      Beth

    • JCF

      Christianist White Jebus god.

  • Octoberfurst

    OK, I’m confused. They are saying that people should vote for Moore despite the fact that he is an “evil man” because God has a greater purpose in mind. Uhh. excuse me, but Moore presents himself as a rock-solid God-fearing Christian. Evangelicals are flocking to him BECAUSE he says he loves the baby Jesus. But the Federalist says he is “evil”. WTF? I’ve given up trying to understand right-wingers. They make no sense and have the most convoluted “logic” I have ever seen.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Please refer to Talisman video below.

    • Jonathan Smith

      he loved baby “jessie” THERE is the problem.
      well, that, and he’s bat shit insane,

    • The_Wretched

      Evil men who support the christianist view are a good thing since they will “usher in the era of god”. The rest is details.

      It’s a variant of the idea that it’s ok to lie to people to get them into believing.

  • Beth Sanders

    He should be ASHAMED! NO CHRISTIAN MAN HE IS!

    • Bluto
      • Mike_in_the_Tundra

        Obviously she was a native speaker of English, but the person above does not seem to be someone very familiar with English.

      • AlternativeQuacks

        I’m still leaning towards Beth being a parody account and some Andy Kaufman-level humor.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        LOL, stay dead Beth.

      • AmeriCanadian

        Excellent detective work Bluto!

        • Bluto

          I can’t take credit. Someone else here, wish I remembered who, discovered this.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Actually, he’s pretty much the epitome of a Christian man…and therein lies the problem.

    • vorpal

      Sorry, Beth, but you’re not his type.
      You have hair down there.

      • Jonathan Smith

        and she’s over 16?
        and a troll?
        bless her heart.

    • Jonathan Smith

      damn bitch. your typing from heaven?
      DO YOU HAVE wI-fI?

    • Chucktech

      Now, now, Beth, lay back down in your coffin.

    • The_Wretched

      How many virgins do you drain every year to support your unlife?

  • Hue-Man

    O/T Canada introduced the promised legislation to expunge convictions for same-sex offences. The Parole Board will consider applications from the convicted party or his surviving relatives/representatives. Up to 9,000 convictions may be involved. Once the offence has been expunged, the individual will also be removed from the Sex Offender Registry.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/homosexual-offences-exunge-records-1.4422546
    Text of Expungement of Historically Unjust Convictions Act, Bill C-66:
    http://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/bill/C-66/first-reading

    • Reality.Bites

      Interestingly, in Canada incest is only a criminal offence between blood relatives – and not between adult aunt/uncles and nieces/nephews.

      155 (1) Every one commits incest who, knowing that another person is by blood relationship his or her parent, child, brother, sister, grandparent or grandchild, as the case may be, has sexual intercourse with that person.

      When it comes to marriage, we’re a bit tougher, bringing adoption and great-grandparents into the mix.

      (2) No person shall marry another person if they are related lineally, or as brother or sister or half-brother or half-sister, including by adoption.

      But apparently we’re still ok with that whole hot aunt/horny nephew thing?

  • Ninja0980

    Sad to say but the latest polls have Moore winning.
    Hope they’re wrong but I have a feeling they aren’t.

    • Oh, Parker

      He will do far more to drag the GOP deeper into the moral decay in which they currently find themselves and boost turnout on our side if he wins.

      • Tor

        Let him be the boil on the collective ass of the GOP.

        • Chucktech

          Jesus, like, Trump already isn’t??

          • Tor

            He’s a major tumor, that they choose to ignore.

  • Chucktech

    Vote For Roy Moore Because God Often Chooses Evil Men To Promote The Greater Good. And you know AAALLL about Roy Moore. And all his… well, you know. Don’t you?

  • Steverino

    Dobson played the Cyrus card last year about Trump, as well. It is a common meme among Christianists to salve the discomfort of cognitive dissonance for favoring ideological tribalism over their professed moral beliefs.

  • Bluto
  • MikeBx2

    I’ve seen/heard nearly identical rationale used for Trump many times.

  • vorpal

    This is the same justification they used to vote for Trump.

    Apparently, their god can work through evil, ignorant, sex-offender male dotards, but not intelligent, experienced women like Hillary because… vagina force field?

    • Jonathan Smith

      “because” not democrat.
      thats it.
      the whole of their philosophy.

    • Tawreos

      I think vagina force field is the best thing I have read all day and it will probably remain so. =)

      • vorpal

        Glad to be of service, Tawreos! =purr=

  • minidriver

    Reminds me of an NPR interview where they were talking to some state-level repub operative in Florida about 2 weeks before the 2016 election. When asked about how he was reconciling supporting Trump with his behavior (Hollywood Access, etc.), the operative basically stated that “…if I had to choose between Satan and Mother Theresa, and Mother Theresa was the Democrat, I would vote for Satan every time.”

    Basically, they follow the Father of Lies because he says what they want to hear.

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    If that is their outlook on it, why can’t they apply the same thinking to Doug Jones and overlook his “evil” of being pro-choice?

    • Chucktech

      uh…………………..
      roy mower is evil like gawd wonts so wer votin fer he-yim

  • Harveyrabbit

    Yeah, to be honest I’d forgotten about all those good things that Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Robert Mugabe, Kim Jong-un, Bashar al-Assad and many others had done.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Sing it BITCHES!!!!

    https://youtu.be/BSfc0dbct3w

  • Jay George

    The tags for this post are just about perfect.

  • Steven B

    This just proves the old adage: The Bible is like a violin because you can use it to play any tune.

    • JCF

      Christianists can make *noise* on it—but tune? Not so much.

  • Blake J Butler
    • Bryan

      Well that was fast, but leave it to Parker:
      https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/status/935264047104233472

      [edit: The clip with The Exorcist theme, also entertaining…]

      • Bluto

        It’s nice that the shitgibbon clan can celebrate such a nice taxpayer-funded holiday.

      • Treant

        A decor as frozen as her heart, soul, and uterus.

      • Jay George

        She wears her coat indoors because reptile people can’t make their own body heat.

      • Friday

        How they managed to overdo *that* theme, I just don’t know.

  • Blake Mason

    So are they admitting that they know he is a piece of shit?

    • vorpal

      Yup… and their god loves evil shit, so now they’re OBLIGATED to vote for him!

  • pch1013

    OT: Australian fascist leader trots out the tired old “polygamy” argument. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11948970

    • Jonathan Smith

      been there. heard that.
      HAS IT EVER HAPPENED?
      No? fuck off

      • Treant

        And if it did happen, would I care? Not in a free and open culture, I wouldn’t.

        • Jonathan Smith

          but you are NOT in a free and open culture.
          still don’t care.

          • Treant

            You know what I mean. 🙂

          • Jonathan Smith

            yes.
            sad but true.
            i DO know what you mean.

  • Boreal
  • Lazycrockett

    Why is the conservatives always running to JFK to use as an example?

    • Friday

      Cause they still secretly hate Catholics, but as they just revealed, also want to ‘use’ them to gain Christianist control before staging more ‘Reformation’ style purges?

    • coram nobis

      Because people forget how badly conservatives hated JFK at the time — this example, for instance, which circulated in Dallas during his trip.

      http://www.johnfitzgeraldkennedy.net/wantedfortreason.jpg

  • Blake J Butler
    • coram nobis

      From the Bieber Tapestry?

      • Jonathan Smith

        no tat’s

        • coram nobis

          It would look good on his left buttock. It’s probably the only vacant space left, frankly.

  • ChrisMorley

    OT

    Keeping Up With Royal Redhead Wedding Gossip

    Prince Harry to marry Meghan Markle at Windsor Castle in May
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/28/prince-harry-to-marry-meghan-markle-at-windsor-castle-in-may

    No date yet, but She Will Be Assimilated
    ‘Markle, 36, who is American, will also become a British citizen and will be baptised and confirmed into the Church of England before the wedding, Kensington Palace announced.’

    Not mentioned in polite company, the Queen’s snub to Prince Charles:
    1. Harry gets to marry (a divorcee) in the medieval cathedral-like splendor of the Chapel Royal at Windsor Castle.

    2. His dad, Prince Charles (a widower), the heir to the throne, wasn’t allowed to marry Camilla (a divorcee) in the Queen’s Chapel at the Castle, but instead Betty made him make do with a civil wedding at the town’s very disappointing Registry Office.

    • coram nobis

      Does this mean there’ll be a new season of “Keeping Up Windsors”? Patricia Routledge makes a wonderful Betty Windsor, don’t you think?

    • JCF

      There’s another explanation, it’s contained above: Markle did her marrying&divorcing while NOT being an Anglican (nor even being a Christian, if they’re baptizing her—probably). Camilla did her marrying&divorcing while BEING an Anglican. Markle can wipe her slate clean in her baptism; Camilla didn’t have that option. [JCF the Episcopalian ain’t defending “Mother Church” here—God only knows we Piskies don’t have any such jumping-hoops, for decades now—but there is a logic to it. And of course, w/ the Church of England, Her Majesty is literally the last word!]

  • gaycuckhubby
    • JCF

      The dam has broken!

  • Jay George

    http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/11/boy_do_i_have_a_story_you_wont.html

    “here’s this guy who can’t get along with anyone. His own men try to frag him in Vietnam, and he brags about it. He goes to law school and his own professor makes fun of him. Calls him names like “fruit salad” because he’s all mixed up and topped with nuts.

    But he graduates and moves to the country, where he becomes prosecutor in a small town. I mean, the guy is inept. Once, while demonstrating to a jury how a crime was committed, he accidentally stabs himself with the murder weapon. They had to declare a mistrial and try it all over again. And he cut himself again.”

    • MBear

      Perfect representation for the people of al Abama, IMO

    • coram nobis

      It can work as a defense tactic. A 19th C. politician and attorney, Clement Vallandigham, during a murder trial, demonstrated how the pistol might have fired accidentally — and fatally shot himself. His client was acquitted.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Vallandigham#Death

      Fun fact: Vallandigham was a Confederate sympathizer during the war — a Copperhead.

  • MikeBx2

    O/T: I’m not a violent person but I seriously feel the need to punch something.
    https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/935568790934425600

    • tbj5

      Said the pot so dark that light couldn’t escape it to the kettle.

    • The_Wretched

      Trump’s going for inception territory / brain implosions.

    • coram nobis

      Donald says there won’t be a deal, but wants them to come in for a photo op anyway.

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/28/democrats-pelosi-schumer-trump-meeting

      So they’ll look like a row of department-store mannequins while Donald talks about himself, or more about Pocahontas, or how the economy has bloomed like a thousand flowers under his watch, or something something about Hollywood.

      Pettiness is what you make of it.

      • Jonathan Smith

        the reign of the 45th president of the US?

        • coram nobis

          More like the emperor Caligula. He started by appointing his horse to high office and ended up appointing himself as a god. So far, we’ve only seen the rear end of the horse.

          • Jonathan Smith

            give it time…….

    • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

      Aim for Trump.

    • pj

      its petty to refer to them as democrat leaders. and disrespectful.

  • Lawerence Collins

    Share this far and wide. A number of Alabama billboard companies refused to put this up https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/552316110a776f9d704e3c57058792f547e5ea50baded820b57ca22a838d6e6d.jpg

  • Treant

    I still support Kevin Spacey because he’s a good actor, and God wants us to be well-entertained during our time on Earth.

  • tbj5

    So they’re telling Christians to blindly wager on an evil man somehow resulting in morally good results.

    Pretty sure gambling is a sin.

  • Buford

    So all those molested kids and assaulted women out there are just collateral damage on Moore’s path to ‘the greater good’…!??!

    • Jonathan Smith

      nah.
      they are whores!
      /S

    • Lizard

      Since when do evangelicals care about either? Women are chattel and they advocate beating The Jesus into little kids.

      • The_Wretched

        ^this. it’s the religious hierarchic structure again.

  • MT YVR

    “Vote For Roy Moore Because God Often Chooses Evil Men To Promote The Greater Good”

    Yep. Ok. (goes day drinking) I’m done. All good now. Do not need more coming out of the USA today unless it’s pretty, wanton, morally ambiguous about kink and brings alcohol. Or. Or brings alcohol. I’ll take one or more from that list.

    Bat. Shit. Craaaaaazy. Y’all have the weirdest “Strange Cousin” syndromes going on down there.

    • Treant

      We do, don’t we? I could turn up the kink for you, if you’d like, but it’s not going to drown out the insanity.

      • MT YVR

        Oh, we’ve got it up here. Just not… you know… as crazy. But Jeebus on toast, y’all are making this an olympic sport.

        Kink can drown it out. If you don’t bring the ballgags to the game. 😉

        • Treant

          Been there, done that, did it with open windows, woke up several babies in the immediate apartment complex.

  • Treant

    OT: I’m cutting back my Effexor from 225 mg to 150 mg–the increased dosage isn’t working in terms of killing the headaches, and it’s turned my libido down a little too much and my weight up a little too much.

    My Not-God, the feeling of electrical discharges in the brain is annoying, though. I did see that Omega 3 fatty acids may help out, and they do seem to work to a good extent, but if anybody else has a suggestion other than “ride them out” or “taper more finely” (I can’t with the capsules), let me know…

    • Jonathan Smith
      • Treant

        Chihuahua with Dahlia therapy does seem to be working…

    • Friday

      Some potassium-laden foods like bananas could help.

      • Treant

        Thanks! I eat mostly vegetables anyway (and I’m allergic to bananas). But I just dropped more potassium pills and I’ll keep that stepped up.

        • Reality.Bites

          So did Nancy Reagan. So did Nancy Reagan.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Go to a compounding pharmacy and get a range of in-between doses in liquid form. That way you can taper down more slowly. You may still get the zaps, but they’ll be milder.

    • Chucktech

      Uh… do you have any advice from medical people who should all about such things?

      • Treant

        Yep, and I’ve also done this before, but I was hoping for a way around the zaps.

        • Chucktech

          Well, OK, take care of yourself…

    • JCF

      {{{Treant}}}

      • Treant

        I’m fine, really! Yesterday was kind of zappy, today was much better.

  • Friday

    They’ve been using this excuse for Trump, basically admitting they don’t care about the ‘morals’ they hold everyone else to, and attack our country over, ….they only care about gaining power and feeding their Big Fossil Fuel moneyed donors, cause they want to destroy the United States of America and substitute their Dominionist Christiofascism over everyone. Then of course they can go ahead and treat ‘young virgins’ like property and do whatever they want to anyone that doesn’t serve their greed and lust for power and dominance.

  • JohnJay

    Oh come on, Republicans! You can’t have it both ways. On one hand, all those women are fakes and liars, and Moore never tried to do anything with them. On the other hand, God uses evil men, like Moore, for his greater good. Choose one or the other!

  • Ziad Baaklini

    So vote for Judas?

    • Jonathan Smith

      hey, he made money, didn’t he?

  • mikeinftl

    Such pretzel logic, they way they twist it fit what they want.

  • joe ho

    Note well. This is a jump the shark moment for American evangelicalism. They’ll never be able to claim the moral high ground again. So this is a good thing.

    • bkmn

      They will try though. Too much money on the line for them

    • Treant

      They’ve chosen the wrong hill to die on about two hundred times. So far, it hasn’t killed them and they still claim the moral high ground.

      It’s just that fewer and fewer people believe them or listen to them any longer.

      • bkmn

        Their dwindling numbers are the result of all their moral high-horsedness but they will never admit it.

    • Chucktech

      Sure they will. Just watch ’em.

  • Natty Enquirer

    What compromised twaddle. The Bible can be, and often has been, used to justify all manner of evil. “Roy Moore may be a bad guy, but hey, he’s our bad guy.”

  • Lizard

    OT, but I saw this on a talking statue in Rome today. You don’t need to know Italian to get the message. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/12befad013719b2fef6686d233f4c0213cbdb393074930558ca637001cc8f4a2.jpg

    • Natty Enquirer

      Bene. I’ll start calling him Il Putrescente.

  • netxtown

    that is just all kinds of fucked up…

  • Jay George
  • Frostbite

    Well then with that logic, your deity is using me to teach the idiot straight people how to be better at sex. Leave me alone or you’re defying your deity’s will!

  • gaycuckhubby

    Interesting new AL Senate poll this morning.
    They they were one of the few polls that had moore with a big lead even after the allegations first surfaced

    https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/935517048133836801

  • Ben in Oakland

    God could just as easily choose to pick a moral, upright person as an exemplar to lead us.

    But for some reason, he prefers Grabby McPussy and Grabby McKitten.

    Probably a bird of a feather sort of a thing.

  • Ben in Oakland

    “Esther even allowed a man who was falsely accused of rape to meet his death because that was best for the Jewish people.”
    And THAT, dear brothers in Christ, is the perfect example of Christian morality.

    • Jonathan Smith

      “do as I say, not as I do?”

      • Ben in Oakland

        Nope. Just a swamp of moral relativism, which they claim to abhor, but are in fact the denizens thereof.

        • Friday

          They project about everything else, why not their fixation on ‘moral relativism,’ when they continually excuse their own atrocities by saying, “Why don’t you blame the Muslims, they’d kill you *differently* where they’re allowed to, unlike how we say we will if ever allowed to.”

          What they get for worshipping ‘blame’ as some kind of transferrable cosmic commodity.

          • Ben in Oakland

            absolutely.
            Whenever I hear that Muslims are worse claptrap, I always like to respond: “It’s a sad day when the best a Christian of your sort can come up with to excuse your malice is: ‘At least we’re not as bad as the Muslims.'”
            That usually shuts them up.

  • coram nobis

    It’s not just this one loony site. It seems to be endemic to Evangelicals generally, and a few of their number are realizing that it makes look both complicit and ridiculous to normal people.

    http://religiondispatches.org/evangelical-author-on-why-christian-conservatives-supported-trump/

    Donald Trump is Donald Trump. He’s not hiding who he is and he has never hidden from us who he is. He’s never even claimed to be born again or to be a great spiritual leader. But those around him, those religious right leaders who made excuses for him at that moment, who tried to rebrand him as Lincoln, as Churchill, as Cyrus the Great, Nebuchadnezzer, or whatever else, have not only caused a lot of damage, but I think compromised their entire message.

    More disturbing, perhaps, recently the Washington Post has run a couple of articles in which they’ve asked whether there is anything that Trump could do to cause these evangelical leaders to withdraw their support from him, and their answers make clear that their thinking is transactional. “We support him until the last breath because he gives us access that no other President has given us.” They are admitting to the transactional nature of their relationship with him, and I think that is a dramatic step down from the loftier pulpits that they should be maintaining.

  • Daveed_WOW

    https://thinkprogress.org/trump-convinces-many-alabama-voters-that-women-are-lying-about-roy-moore-6e3cd734c9a7/

    The effect Trump is having on Roy Moore’s support, in one poll
    The President’s endorsement seems to be paying dividends.

    ….the more proof that Moore is guilty results in more devotion to him by the cult….

  • Kevin Andrews

    There is nothing more disgusting than a Christ-O-Fascist and Missionary of Hate working hard to justify their possession by evil. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/732bc65875090fd3b5c855abcc5330797f33763d27b1390efa7bb9e492a3d5bc.png

    • Jonathan Smith

      the biggest trick he ever pulled was getting elected president.

  • kanehau

    Beware of false prophets profits.

  • narutomania

    Their so-called logic here makes me think of Goethe’s characterization of Mephistopheles (the Devil) in his drama ‘Faust’ when he has Mephisto refer to himself as “ein Teil von jener Kraft, die stets das Böse will und stets das Gute schafft” (“a piece of that power, that constantly strives for evil but constantly works good”).

    But, as bkmn points out above, why not vote for the “even more evil” Democrat then??! (snicker)

  • Halou

    “For example, King Cyrus of Persia helped the Jews with royal decrees and financing to construct the temple, and later foreign armies defended them.”

    To hear the Evangelicals tell it, you’d think Cyrus granted a special privilege to just the Jews. When in actual fact Cyrus first conquered then ruled over what was at the time the world’s largest, most multi-cultural and multi-faith empire. His family built the empire and ruled it for centuries, and they did it successfully. His decision to allow the Jewish population to live in peace (so long as they respected the central secular Persian law) was not just a right granted to myriad other faiths throughout the empire, it was an administrative decision not borne of any special respect or love for the Jews. The Persians did not want to spend the rest of forever putting down incessant rebellion so they granted concessions to the people they conquered.

    More than that, the Jewish territory was a buffer between Persia and Egypt that was conquered by Cyrus’ son a decade and a half later. The investments Cyrus made into the region was, again, not done for love or respect towards the Jewish people but to endear them to him so that they would not invite Egypt to ‘liberate’ them, and to defend the area in case Egypt decided to do it anyway without being invited to first.

    http://www.jesuswalk.com/isaiah/maps/persian-empire-1950x920x300.jpg

    As for the idea that foreign armies “defended” the territory, they only did so because it belonged to them, as any nation would when it is invaded. The fact that Jews lived there was not relevant to the matter.

    • Hank

      What can I say, we Jews were always caught in the middle of whatever powers, that dominated the region over the Millennia!!!

    • Friday

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thanks for summing that up so well. I remember even school history class steered clear of places and times considered ‘Bible history’ from any kind of objective perspective when I was a kid. Now probably they’d be lucky to get anything.

  • Ernest Endevor

    Yes, darling, but we don’t care about the Old Testament because we are Christians. We are not Jews. We are called ‘Christians’ because we follow Christ who brought us a New Testament with God and such as

    I should never have given up alcohol.

    • Hank

      Have a hit from my bong!!!

  • JWC

    An absolute dichotomy How far will these religios zealots go to rationalize a point “Evil does Good”

    • Jonathan Smith

      to repubLithug control?

    • Hank

      These Hypocrites, would put Hitler into the seat if they could!!!

      • JWC

        In some manner haven’t they

    • coram nobis

      It may be part and parcel of religious zealotry. It’s somehow God’s Will that, say, the Fourth Crusade to liberate the Holy Land from the heathen went off-course and sacked the Christian city of Constantinople. Or how the Thirty Years’ War between Protestant and Catholic princedoms could cost millions of lives and end only with the intervention of Catholic France, under Cardinal Richelieu, on the Protestant side. Or how the Puritans could come to America for freedom of religion and wind up exterminating the natives and executing each other on charges of heresy and witchcraft.

      Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius. (Kill them all, God will know his own, from 2 Tim. 2:19)
      — orders to the besiegers of Beziérs, July 1209, during the Albigensian crusade

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_B%C3%A9ziers

  • architect_tim
    • Hank

      Lets add Puerto Rico in its place!!!

      • JCF

        (Only w/ Puerto Rican concurrence)

  • DaveMiller135

    The Judeo-Christian God refused to let Moses into the promised land, after 40 years of leading the Israelites through the wilderness. For the sin of pride. God’s standards might be higher than you give Him credit for.

    • Ben in Oakland

      No. Probably not.

  • andrew

    The facts are that throughout history evil men have pretended to be chosen by one god or another, in order to advance their selfish agendas.

  • pgarayt

    So God chooses men like himself then?

  • Fritz Keppler

    At last I can agree with the Federalist, that Moore is evil.

  • jm2

    the part about ““unapproved” Christian sect (as the Catholics once were in America)” caught my eye, because they became “approved” when the Bishop’s Conference talked them into the pro-life, anti-abortion stand AND gave them money to bribe them!

  • Elsewhere1010

    Because God is completely incompetent?

  • Fritz Keppler

    “At least we’re not Mississippi!” is no longer enough for them.

  • CA2017

    I did Nazi see that coming!

    Well, yeah, to be honest, it’s not a surprising statement coming from that morally bankrupt lot.

  • WretchedMouse

    Huh. Seems about right. I mean in the Malleus Maleficarum it says the devil can’t do anything unless god permits it so there yah go.

    “The devil by himself without the co-operation of any witches, but merely by God’s permission alone…”

    So see god loves evil! 😑

  • FelineMama

    OH SWEET JEEBUS ON A SKATEBOARD!! You’se people gotta put down that crack pipe! You’re too crazy!! god chooses evil men to promote Greater GOOD. Hey, Jesus, your dad just threw you under the bus, it seems! HA! Also, too, all you all’s bible humpers!! HAHAHAHA!! Thank you for this enlightening!!

  • friedafriendentia

    Isaiah 5 18 Woe to those who draw sin along with cords of deceit, and wickedness as with cart ropes, 19 to
    those who say, “Let God hurry; let him hasten his work so we may see
    it. The plan of the Holy One of Israel- let it approach, let it come
    into view, so we may know it.” 20 Woe
    to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light
    and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
    These so called Christians should read their book without blinders on.

  • Pete Wascher

    so, you’d vote for hitler because he improved the german economy and got them out of the Depression?